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Derek Barris
Zoran Mamdani's win in the Democratic primary is making me miss living in New York City. I lived under the Giuliani and Bloomberg administrations, and look, New York is New York. There are so, so many communities living under this umbrella. My 12 years in the city, after growing up 30 miles outside of it, predominantly involved being part of the world music scene and the yoga community. As I said on Thursday's episode, New York is distinct in terms of its communities, meaning it's not like one big Kumbaya party yet. It also forces you to grapple with tons of people from everywhere in the world, all the time. That's what I miss most about living there. This is Derek Barris and you're listening to a conspirituality bonus episode and I've been thinking about Mamdani's victory for a lot of reasons. I love how he's approaching this campaign. I do agree with the majority of his politics, and I think he's the right person at the right time for a party that really needs some fresh energy. I'm also aware of how easy it is to get charmed by charisma, given that's what we cover on this podcast in the wellness world. I'm not fanatical and I do have some critiques, but more importantly, I just think it's about time because Democratic leadership is not cutting it right now. I'm going to get personal before I spend most of this episode looking at the political after moving to New York, I ended up deep in the world music scene. I worked as managing editor of a world music magazine and produced three albums and four EPs as one half of Earthrise Sound System. But the most New York memory I have is from my decade plus as part of the DJ collective Globe Sonic. Every summer for 10 years we held monthly Globesonic on the Hudson parties on Pier Eye in the Upper west side. Up to 7,000 people showed up to these events where we spun African, Middle Eastern, dub, Latin, basically every genre on the planet that moves people. I love the diversity of the crowd. New York embraces people from everywhere and people from everywhere showed up to these parties. I've included a few videos in the show notes if you want to check out the vibe from back then. I'm also always hesitant to overly romanticize the city or really anywhere because every neighborhood is its own culture. It's not like you're immersed in everything all the time, but the fact that all exist in close proximity and that you're inevitably going to be exposed to a dozen languages on every Subway Ride is a wonderful thing. I'll also admit I was a little too enthusiastic. In my 20s, I was steeped in world music, interviewing hundreds of artists from around the world, reviewing and photographing multiple shows a week, touring as a dj embedded in many cultures through the shared language of music. I did, and I still do believe in the transformative power of music. As globesonic, we put together an electronic press kit during our eighth summer on this on the Hudson and you can hear my optimism. I truly believe the country was moving in the right direction when it came to acceptance of people from elsewhere. The audio mix isn't great, but you'll catch the gist here.
Unknown Speaker
This is the future of what America is going to look like, whether people like it or not. We should rather make it a party and celebrate and learn to share and understand one another or else we're only going to go further and further down the rabbit hole.
Derek Barris
I don't think I was wrong as it is what America looks like, but I was a little too optimistic in thinking that most Americans would want it to look like that. Here's the irony and this video is also linked in the show notes. If you want to see the visual in that video, even in that clip you heard at first you see the dancers on the pier. Then it cuts to me talking to the camera. As soon as I'm done talking, I cut to a shot at what we all looked at all of those years from the pier up on the hill there sits Trump Tower staring over us like the Death Star. Pier eye is off 72nd street, right down a ramp to the water. And I can see the irony so clearly now. There we were, a Muslim, my friend Fabian, a Jew, Bill, and then myself an atheist, spinning music from every country on the planet with people from every country congregating for the shared experience of dance. And in the background the entire time is a sleeping giant that hates everything going on. I'm not being hyperbolic either. Every summer residents from Trump Tower would complain about the noise even though it was city sponsored and they knew it was coming up were many events there even though they we knew we could. They could not hear us from where they were because we would hear the music up on the top of the hill and you can't hear it there. Someone just didn't like so many diverse people collecting on the pier listening to a range of music in a number of languages. And I have to wonder who was making those phone calls now. I will always love New York City and I love that Zoran Mamdani might finally be a face and voice that literally represents what the city is. This bonus episode is not a critique of him. While I don't have a political party, my politics most closely align with his party, Democratic Socialists. What I want to discuss today is how that party and more broadly the left stands to hurt itself with this campaign. And to be super clear, I don't mean Mamdani's campaign specifically. I think he's doing a good job. But his campaign has become a bellwether for liberal and leftist politics broadly, and the downstream effects can possibly more be more divisive than unifying. Let's get into it. You've been listening to a Conspirituality Bonus Episode sample. To continue listening, please head over to patreon.com conspirituality where you can access all of our main feed episodes ad free, as well as four years of bonus content that we've been producing. You can also subscribe to our bonus episodes via Apple Subscriptions. As independent media creators, we really appreciate your support.
Conspirituality Podcast: Bonus Sample Episode Summary
Episode: Purity Tests & Coalition Building
Release Date: July 7, 2025
Hosts: Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker
Derek Barris opens the episode by reminiscing about his time living in New York City, particularly under the Giuliani and Bloomberg administrations. He highlights the city's unique ability to host diverse communities under one umbrella, fostering a vibrant environment for the world music and yoga scenes he was part of.
“New York is distinct in terms of its communities, meaning it's not like one big Kumbaya party yet. It also forces you to grapple with tons of people from everywhere in the world, all the time.”
— Derek Barris [00:03]
Derek shares personal anecdotes from his 12 years in NYC, emphasizing his deep involvement in the world music scene. He recounts his role as managing editor of a world music magazine and his tenure with the DJ collective Globe Sonic, which hosted monthly parties attracting up to 7,000 attendees.
“We spun African, Middle Eastern, dub, Latin, basically every genre on the planet that moves people. I love the diversity of the crowd.”
— Derek Barris [03:48]
Derek reflects on the optimism he once held about America's multicultural future, symbolized by the inclusive atmosphere of Globe Sonic parties. However, he contrasts this with the looming presence of Trump Tower, representing antagonism and resistance to diversity.
“Every summer residents from Trump Tower would complain about the noise... Someone just didn't like so many diverse people collecting on the pier listening to a range of music in a number of languages.”
— Derek Barris [04:01]
He admits that his earlier optimism may have been misplaced, recognizing the deep-seated challenges in achieving widespread acceptance and understanding among Americans.
Transitioning to contemporary politics, Derek discusses Zoran Mamdani's win in the Democratic primary. He expresses support for Mamdani, appreciating his fresh energy and alignment with Democratic Socialist ideals.
“I love how he's approaching this campaign. I do agree with the majority of his politics, and I think he's the right person at the right time for a party that really needs some fresh energy.”
— Derek Barris [00:03]
However, Derek voices concerns about the broader implications of Mamdani's campaign as a bellwether for liberal and leftist politics. He warns that while Mamdani himself is effective, the movement he represents might inadvertently foster division rather than unity.
“His campaign has become a bellwether for liberal and leftist politics broadly, and the downstream effects can possibly more be more divisive than unifying.”
— Derek Barris [00:03]
In the context of the podcast's focus on conspirituality, Derek hints at how political movements can intersect with spiritual and wellness communities. He suggests that charismatic figures, much like those in the wellness industry, can exploit followers by merging conspiracy theories with spiritual narratives, potentially undermining public health and social cohesion.
Derek concludes the episode by reinforcing his commitment to the Democratic Socialists while acknowledging the need for introspection within the left to avoid internal divisions. He emphasizes the importance of fostering genuine coalition-building without falling into the traps of charisma-driven politics that can dilute core values and objectives.
This bonus episode of Conspirituality offers a blend of personal nostalgia and sharp political analysis. Derek Barris uses his experiences in New York City and the world music scene as a backdrop to explore the complexities of modern political movements within the context of conspirituality. By highlighting the successes and potential pitfalls of Zoran Mamdani's campaign, he provides listeners with a nuanced perspective on how political and spiritual dynamics can shape societal trends.
Notable Quotes:
“Zoran Mamdani might finally be a face and voice that literally represents what the city is.”
— Derek Barris [00:03]
“This is the future of what America is going to look like, whether people like it or not. We should rather make it a party and celebrate and learn to share and understand one another or else we're only going to go further and further down the rabbit hole.”
— Unknown Speaker [03:48]
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