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Julian Walker
Ladies and gentlemen, the event starts now.
David Miscavige
Hello. My name is David Miscavige. At 2000 hours, Friday, the 24th of January, AD 36, L. Ron Hubbard discarded the body he had used in this lifetime. For 74 years, 10 months, and 11 days, the body he had used to facilitate his existence in this mess universe had ceased to be useful and in fact, had become an impediment to the work he now must do outside of its confines. We felt it was important as Scientologists, that you were the first to become aware of this fact.
Julian Walker
That was David Miscavige's first public appearance as he was beginning to step into the role of being the new head of Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard had died two weeks previous. His body was found in a small motorhome tucked in behind the stables on a ranch in the town of Creston, close to San Luis Obispo in California, which is almost an exact halfway point between LA and San Francisco. This was in 1986, but notice that Miscavige right there just referred to the year as AD 36. Did you catch that? The AD stands for. No, no. It stands for After Dianetics. And the idiosyncratic year that he's referring to there is calculated by counting from the year 1950 as zero. That's when Hubbard's seminal text was published. So AD 36 means 36 years after Dianetics was published. Here's a little more from his speech.
David Miscavige
As Scientologists, we know more than anyone that we are not bodies. We have bodies. And our current existences in our current bodies are but one in a million that we have lived and will live. Lrh, in fact, used this lifetime in the body we knew to accomplish what no man has ever accomplished. He unlocked the mysteries of life and gave us the tools so that we could free ourselves and our fellow man. The fact that he causatively and willingly discarded the body after it was no longer useful to him signifies his ultimate success, the conquest of life that he embarked upon half a century ago.
Julian Walker
Now, listening to his voice and seeing his confidence, I was surprised to find out that Miscavige was just 26 years old when he stepped up to that podium on the stage at the Hollywood Palladium, which has a capacity of 4,000 people. Scientology itself was at its absolute peak at that time, boasting around 100,000 members worldwide, with the largest concentration of those being in la, primarily associated with the entertainment industry. Today, after wave after wave of controversy, legal battles, allegations of abuse, and other forms of criminality, that number has shrunk to be estimated close to 40,000. When Hubbard's body was found, he had a bandaged gluteal area and the autopsy reported 10 recent injection marks and the presence of a drug known as Vistaril, which is used both as an antihistamine and more frequently as a sedative to treat anxiety. I only mention this because one key tenant of Hubbard's teachings was was in opposition to psychiatry and to psychiatric medications which he believed were harmful pseudoscience, used in ignorance of what he had discovered to be the real cause of human psychological distress and neuroses. I'm Julian Walker. Welcome to Conspirituality, where we investigate the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience and authoritarian extremism. On Deck Today is the latest in my series that travels back through time to track the roots of what we study. You can find all seven of the previous episodes in the Roots of Conspirituality series under the Collections tab on Patreon Today. We're picking up again in the 1950s, a wild and woolly time in the American psyche when post World War II new religious movements were springing up around claims of spiritual aliens, spaceship traveling prophets, and mythologies that stretched into an ancient but high tech cosmos. None of these have been more financially fruitful, culturally impactful, controversial and I would say bizarre than the Church of Scientology. You've been listening to a Conspirituality Bonus Episode Sample. To continue listening, please head over to patreon.com conspirituality where you can access all of our main feed episodes ad free, as well as four years of bonus content that we've been producing. You can also subscribe to our bonus episodes via Apple subscriptions. As independent media creators, we really appreciate your support.
Release Date: February 17, 2025
Hosts: Julian Walker, Derek Beres, Matthew Remski
The episode opens with Julian Walker setting the stage for a deep dive into the enigmatic world of Scientology. He introduces a pivotal moment in the church’s history—the public emergence of David Miscavige as the new leader following the death of founder L. Ron Hubbard. Walker narrates the circumstances surrounding Hubbard's mysterious death and Miscavige's subsequent rise:
“That was David Miscavige's first public appearance as he was beginning to step into the role of being the new head of Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard had died two weeks previous.”
[00:48] – Julian Walker
Walker delves into the unique timeline system used by Scientologists, explaining the significance of the year AD 36 mentioned in Miscavige's speech. He clarifies that AD stands for "After Dianetics", with the calendar starting from 1950, the year Hubbard published his seminal work, Dianetics. This revelation underscores the distinct worldview and temporal framework that Scientology adherents operate within:
“AD 36 means 36 years after Dianetics was published.”
[01:06] – Julian Walker
The episode transitions to an analysis of David Miscavige, highlighting his early assumption of leadership at just 26 years old. Walker paints a picture of a charismatic yet controversial figure who took the helm during Scientology’s peak membership era, boasting around 100,000 members worldwide. However, he notes the drastic decline to an estimated 40,000 members today, attributing it to a series of controversies, legal battles, and allegations of abuse:
“When Hubbard's body was found, he had a bandaged gluteal area and the autopsy reported... Vistaril, which is used... as a sedative to treat anxiety.”
[02:00] – Julian Walker
A significant portion of the discussion centers on Scientology’s vehement opposition to psychiatry and psychiatric medications, a cornerstone of Hubbard’s teachings. Walker explains Hubbard’s belief that these disciplines are harmful pseudosciences that fail to address the true causes of human psychological distress:
“One key tenant of Hubbard's teachings was in opposition to psychiatry and to psychiatric medications which he believed were harmful pseudoscience.”
[02:15] – Julian Walker
Connecting broader themes, Walker situates Scientology within the conspirituality framework, illustrating how the religion blends science fiction elements with spiritual teachings to create a unique, albeit controversial, belief system. He explores how Scientology's narrative of unlocking life's mysteries and transcending the physical body resonates with and diverges from mainstream spiritual movements:
“As Scientologists, we know more than anyone that we are not bodies... signifies his ultimate success, the conquest of life that he embarked upon half a century ago.”
[01:46] – David Miscavige (quoted by Julian Walker)
Walker provides historical context, placing Scientology within the 1950s American psyche, a period ripe with new religious movements and post-World War II societal shifts. He highlights Scientology’s significant cultural and financial impact, noting its bizarre and controversial nature compared to other emerging spiritual movements of the time:
“None of these have been more financially fruitful, culturally impactful, controversial and... bizarre than the Church of Scientology.”
[02:34] – Julian Walker
The episode concludes with a reflection on Scientology’s current standing. Walker discusses the decline in membership and the public scrutiny the church faces, juxtaposing its once-thriving community against today’s challenges. He underscores the importance of understanding such movements through the lens of conspirituality to uncover the underlying cultic dynamics and disinformation tactics:
“Mainstream outlets have noticed the problem. We crowd-source, research, analyze, and dream answers to it.”
[02:50] – Julian Walker
David Miscavige:
“As Scientologists, we know more than anyone that we are not bodies. We have bodies...”
[01:46]
Julian Walker:
“AD 36 means 36 years after Dianetics was published.”
[01:06]
Julian Walker:
“None of these have been more financially fruitful, culturally impactful, controversial and... bizarre than the Church of Scientology.”
[02:34]
This bonus episode of Conspirituality offers a compelling exploration of Scientology as a unique amalgamation of science fiction and spiritual belief. Through meticulous analysis and insightful commentary, Julian Walker and the team unravel the complexities of Scientology’s doctrines, leadership dynamics, and cultural impact. By situating Scientology within the broader context of conspiritual movements, the podcast provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of how such groups navigate and influence the spiritual and conspiratorial landscape.
For those interested in further exploring the roots and ramifications of conspirituality, this episode serves as an essential resource, blending historical context with contemporary analysis to illuminate the intricate web of beliefs that define modern spiritual movements.
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