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[00:03]
A
Welcome to the Maha Media Hub and welcome to the Maha Revolution. I'm Tony Lyons, president of Maha Action Today. I want to tell you a story that I know better than anyone else because I lived it. It's the story of a book a whole lot of powerful people did everything in their power to make sure you would never read. That book is the real Anthony Fauci.
[00:27]
B
I'm sorry, I really don't want to keep doing this, given that a few days ago we had the Fauci show trial and this whole fucking circus around Anthony Fauci that RFK Jr. Is leading. I know Rand Paul is making him testify, but as was revealed last week, Kennedy is the one who spent eight months searching through 11 different servers to piece together Anthony Foushee's diaries. That's something he said during an interview with Laura Ingraham. And we produce these. You know, it took us about eight months to take these out of 11 separate servers where they had been sequestered and secreted. And we handed them over this week to Rand Paul and Ron Johnson. What could this fucking obsession with a public health servant and bureaucrat, years long, decades long for some of the people in Maha, obsession with Fauci? What could it possibly have to do with what's going on in America right now, American public health? Could it be that we have just reached the highest number of measles cases in 35 years and we are going to lose elimination status this fall? At least all signs are pointing toward that. Last year was the Highest year in 34 years and we've blown through that number and we're in July. Could it be the cyclospore outbreak which is still not contained or really understood, or a whole bunch of other E. Coli outbreaks that are happening state by state and the tracking is horrible because there's no funding for it? There are so many things going on in public health right now. Kennedy just announced a show that he's doing with celebrity chefs to teach Americans how to cook again. That's his focus in this Fauci show trial is his focus. As expected, all of his MAHA stands, led by Tony Lyons, are all falling in line and they're repeating whole bunch of untrue accusations, straight out lies. We're going to be covering it in depth on this Thursday's episode, the Fauci Files, because there's so much to pull from there. Remember, this podcast was founded because of the anti vax movie plandemic, which Kennedy just last fall admitted to having funded through Children's Health Defense. So his hands are on all of these things. But last Wednesday, Maha Action Lions, his group doing the Maha Report, which is their weekly Wednesday call, which if you listen to this podcast, especially the bonus episodes, I've done this a few times now and I was hoping not to do it again. But how can you not, how can you not point out where they just lie, where they try to confuse the public over and over again and take away from credible conversations about pandemic management and viruses and vaccines and all of the type of material that we should be discussing if we care about public health? We can't. Because the conspiracy theorists are in power and all they want to do is keep that power and perpetuate these lies.
[04:17]
A
Kennedy lived it himself. He pointed out that Covid almost certainly came from the Wuhan lab. And what happened next? Instagram erased him. Millions of his followers gone overnight for so called misinformation. And that's the identical playbook that they ran against the real Anthony Fauci. But it didn't work. The book sold 1.4 million copies despite epic, really epic censorship, shadow banning and bookstores and libraries across the country refusing to carry it.
[04:48]
B
There's so much going on there. Suffice to say this entire hour and a half long call was basically a marketing project for Skyhorse Publishing, Lyons company because he just had on a bunch of authors who have books on Skyhorse and they talked about the books. There are other people we're going to get into that, but for these claims specifically. First off, Meta, Instagram and Facebook, they banned Kennedy his accounts due to repeated violations by Children's Health Defense of Misinformation. It was not just for this book. It wasn't a ban on the book at all. He repeatedly made up. And so at some point they took all away his accounts. There's also these claims about rejecting a full page ad. It's possible they don't provide any proof for that. I've never seen Skyhorse or Tony show proof of that. And there are reasons that any media organization doesn't take ads. That's actually pretty common. I worked for the discovery channel for two years back in the late 90s, early aughts, and I worked in commercial operations specifically. There's all sorts of reasons you don't accept advertisements in terms they also have claimed that Amazon wouldn't run paid ads. He didn't claim it there, but that's part of the broader censorship narrative he's made elsewhere. Again, without any proof and the fact that bookstores and libraries don't stock it or feature it. That's an independent decision. That's actually a good thing. We want independence from all of these different organizations. So. So to say that censorship, that's nonsense. There's a limited amount of shelf space in smaller bookstores, in libraries. They already have enough problems without worrying about your book or this one book. And to use them as part of this broader censorship narrative. Censorship has a very specific meaning in the way that they're using it. In terms of free speech. It has to do with government suppression. That's it. That's the First Amendment. The government cannot suppress your speech. When they're talking about it, they're talking about the markets, they're talking about the newspaper market, Amazon's market. Meaning, are they accepting advertising? Meta is not a government entity. They are right to do whatever they want with their violations. I have a lot of problems with their violations, actually, because at Conspirituality, we've had a few posts taken down for misinformation when I was doing what I'm doing right here as I'm featuring someone else spreading misinformation, and then I'm talking about it. But the AI driven algorithm or the AI driven systems they have in place to monitor for that, and then you have no way to get in touch with them. It's a shitty system. That is not censorship. However, in terms of free speech, again, very specifically, they're using it as, as a First Amendment right argument here. And the same with bookstores and libraries. You could possibly say, well, libraries are government institutions, but even then they have no mandate to carry any single book. That's enough. Tony Lyons. I want to go through some of the other claims by the speakers and contextualize them for this Conspirituality bonus episode. I'm Derek Barris and if you're listening on the Patreon or Apple Podcasts feed as a subscriber, thank you. And if you're listening to this bonus sample via the main feed, if you're able to support us and you want to listen to the full episode, please do so. The link is in the show notes. You've been listening to a Conspirituality bonus episode sample. To continue listening, please head over to patreon.com conspirituality where you can access all of our main feed episodes ad free, as well as full four years of bonus content that we've been producing. You can also subscribe to our bonus episodes via Apple subscriptions. As independent media creators, we really appreciate your support.
[09:28]
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Conspirituality Bonus Sample: The Fauci Show Trial

Released: August 3, 2026
Hosts: Derek Beres (voice B)
Guest Clips: Tony Lyons (voice A, President of MAHA Action and publisher at Skyhorse Publishing)

Episode Overview

This bonus episode of Conspirituality, entitled "The Fauci Show Trial," critically examines the ongoing “show trial” culture surrounding Dr. Anthony Fauci, particularly through the lens of the conspirituality movement and its attempts to undermine public health narratives. The episode focuses on how New Age factions, wellness grifters, and alt-right influencers — notably Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.), Tony Lyons, and the MAHA Action group — spin conspiracy theories about Fauci and US public health, often in pursuit of financial gain and influence. Derek Beres analyzes these trends, the roots of the anti-Fauci obsession, and how claims of censorship are misleadingly weaponized in the current information ecosystem.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Anti-Fauci Circus & MAHA’s Narrative

Context: Tony Lyons introduces himself (00:03) as a central figure in the campaign against Fauci, framing his publishing of "The Real Anthony Fauci" as a battle against powerful forces trying to suppress the truth.
Key Claim: Lyons argues that his book and related content were "censored" or "shadow banned" by Big Tech and bookstores because they threaten the establishment narrative.
Critical Response: Derek Beres (00:26–04:48) explains that this anti-Fauci “circus” is a largely manufactured obsession within conspirituality and wellness circles, fueled by falsehoods and misdirection.
- "What could this fucking obsession with a public health servant and bureaucrat, years long, decades long for some of the people in MAHA, obsession with Fauci? What could it possibly have to do with what's going on in America right now, American public health?" (Beres, 01:16)
Political Theatre: The so-called "show trial" is portrayed by Beres as a distraction from urgent public health crises, such as measles outbreaks and lapses in food safety.

2. The Real Consequences: Public Health Undermined

Rising Measles & Outbreaks: Beres highlights the alarming resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases and foodborne illness, tying this directly to the atmosphere of conspiratorial mistrust seeded by figures like Kennedy and Lyons (01:50).
- "Could it be that we have just reached the highest number of measles cases in 35 years and we are going to lose elimination status this fall?...Or a whole bunch of other E. Coli outbreaks that are happening state by state...?" (Beres, 01:59)
Distraction from Real Issues: The constant focus on attacking Fauci and manufacturing controversy, Beres argues, takes away from meaningful dialogue about pandemics, vaccines, and solutions.

3. The Censorship Narrative Deconstructed

Lyons’ Claims: Lyons (04:16) insists his book’s success occurred despite "epic...censorship, shadow banning and bookstores and libraries across the country refusing to carry it."
- "And that's the identical playbook that they ran against the real Anthony Fauci. But it didn't work. The book sold 1.4 million copies despite epic, really epic censorship..." (Lyons, 04:30)
Beres Responds (04:48–09:19):
- Points out that platforms like Meta (Facebook, Instagram) removed RFK Jr.–related accounts for repeated violations of misinformation policies, not simply because of the Fauci book.
- Clarifies: "It wasn't a ban on the book at all. He repeatedly made up. And so at some point they took all away his accounts." (Beres, 05:17)
- Dissects claims about rejected ads by media companies, bookstores, and Amazon, noting there is no evidence supporting the “full-page ad” censorship claims.
- Explains the crucial difference between marketplace decisions and First Amendment censorship: "Censorship has a very specific meaning...It has to do with government suppression. That's it. That's the First Amendment. The government cannot suppress your speech." (Beres, 06:25)
- Even if libraries (government-run) decline to stock a book, Beres explains, this does not constitute mandated censorship or a First Amendment violation.

4. The MAHA Show as Marketing Machine

Underlying Motivation: Beres characterizes the anti-Fauci “show trial” and related MAHA Action calls as primarily a marketing vehicle for Skyhorse Publishing and its cadre of conspiracy authors (04:48).
- "Suffice to say this entire hour and a half long call was basically a marketing project for Skyhorse Publishing, Lyons' company..." (Beres, 04:49)
Conspirituality’s Role: Beres reiterates that the podcast originated as a response to anti-vax media like "Plandemic," and emphasizes Kennedy’s financial and logistical involvement in such productions.

5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Obsession & Distraction:
- "There are so many things going on in public health right now...And all they want to do is keep that power and perpetuate these lies." (Beres, 03:36)
On Censorship vs. Market Choice:
- "Meta is not a government entity. They are right to do whatever they want with their violations...That is not censorship." (Beres, 07:03)
- "Libraries are government institutions, but even then they have no mandate to carry any single book. That's enough. Tony Lyons." (Beres, 07:42)
On the Purpose of Criticism:
- "How can you not point out where they just lie, where they try to confuse the public over and over again and take away from credible conversations about pandemic management and viruses and vaccines and all of the type of material that we should be discussing if we care about public health?" (Beres, 03:04)

Timestamps for Key Segments

00:03–00:26 – Tony Lyons sets the MAHA narrative: “I lived it... The story of a book a whole lot of powerful people did everything in their power to make sure you would never read.”
00:26–04:48 – Derek Beres on the anti-Fauci obsession, Kennedy’s involvement, rise in disease outbreaks, and the function of the “show trial.”
04:16–04:48 – Lyons claims massive suppression, shadowbanning, and censorship of his book.
04:48–09:19 – Beres deconstructs censorship claims, exposes marketing motivations, and clarifies free speech issues.
09:28 onward – Beginning of ads and non-content (not summarized).

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone is sharp, analytical, and at times exasperated, particularly as Beres confronts what he sees as deliberate efforts to spread misinformation and exploit conspiracy thinking for financial and political gain.
The episode reinforces the urgent need for clear, evidence-based discourse on public health and the dangers of allowing marketing interests and conspiracy narratives to co-opt critical conversations.
The hosts contextualize the anti-Fauci campaign within a broader pattern of conspirituality’s tactics: claiming censorship where there is only market choice, distorting free speech debates, and leveraging viral disinformation to sell books and ideas.

To hear the full breakdown and more contextual analysis, listeners are encouraged to access the episode through Conspirituality’s Patreon or Apple Podcast subscriptions.

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Transcript6 lines

[00:03]
A
Welcome to the Maha Media Hub and welcome to the Maha Revolution. I'm Tony Lyons, president of Maha Action Today. I want to tell you a story that I know better than anyone else because I lived it. It's the story of a book a whole lot of powerful people did everything in their power to make sure you would never read. That book is the real Anthony Fauci.
[00:27]
B
I'm sorry, I really don't want to keep doing this, given that a few days ago we had the Fauci show trial and this whole fucking circus around Anthony Fauci that RFK Jr. Is leading. I know Rand Paul is making him testify, but as was revealed last week, Kennedy is the one who spent eight months searching through 11 different servers to piece together Anthony Foushee's diaries. That's something he said during an interview with Laura Ingraham. And we produce these. You know, it took us about eight months to take these out of 11 separate servers where they had been sequestered and secreted. And we handed them over this week to Rand Paul and Ron Johnson. What could this fucking obsession with a public health servant and bureaucrat, years long, decades long for some of the people in Maha, obsession with Fauci? What could it possibly have to do with what's going on in America right now, American public health? Could it be that we have just reached the highest number of measles cases in 35 years and we are going to lose elimination status this fall? At least all signs are pointing toward that. Last year was the Highest year in 34 years and we've blown through that number and we're in July. Could it be the cyclospore outbreak which is still not contained or really understood, or a whole bunch of other E. Coli outbreaks that are happening state by state and the tracking is horrible because there's no funding for it? There are so many things going on in public health right now. Kennedy just announced a show that he's doing with celebrity chefs to teach Americans how to cook again. That's his focus in this Fauci show trial is his focus. As expected, all of his MAHA stands, led by Tony Lyons, are all falling in line and they're repeating whole bunch of untrue accusations, straight out lies. We're going to be covering it in depth on this Thursday's episode, the Fauci Files, because there's so much to pull from there. Remember, this podcast was founded because of the anti vax movie plandemic, which Kennedy just last fall admitted to having funded through Children's Health Defense. So his hands are on all of these things. But last Wednesday, Maha Action Lions, his group doing the Maha Report, which is their weekly Wednesday call, which if you listen to this podcast, especially the bonus episodes, I've done this a few times now and I was hoping not to do it again. But how can you not, how can you not point out where they just lie, where they try to confuse the public over and over again and take away from credible conversations about pandemic management and viruses and vaccines and all of the type of material that we should be discussing if we care about public health? We can't. Because the conspiracy theorists are in power and all they want to do is keep that power and perpetuate these lies.
[04:17]
A
Kennedy lived it himself. He pointed out that Covid almost certainly came from the Wuhan lab. And what happened next? Instagram erased him. Millions of his followers gone overnight for so called misinformation. And that's the identical playbook that they ran against the real Anthony Fauci. But it didn't work. The book sold 1.4 million copies despite epic, really epic censorship, shadow banning and bookstores and libraries across the country refusing to carry it.
[04:48]
B
There's so much going on there. Suffice to say this entire hour and a half long call was basically a marketing project for Skyhorse Publishing, Lyons company because he just had on a bunch of authors who have books on Skyhorse and they talked about the books. There are other people we're going to get into that, but for these claims specifically. First off, Meta, Instagram and Facebook, they banned Kennedy his accounts due to repeated violations by Children's Health Defense of Misinformation. It was not just for this book. It wasn't a ban on the book at all. He repeatedly made up. And so at some point they took all away his accounts. There's also these claims about rejecting a full page ad. It's possible they don't provide any proof for that. I've never seen Skyhorse or Tony show proof of that. And there are reasons that any media organization doesn't take ads. That's actually pretty common. I worked for the discovery channel for two years back in the late 90s, early aughts, and I worked in commercial operations specifically. There's all sorts of reasons you don't accept advertisements in terms they also have claimed that Amazon wouldn't run paid ads. He didn't claim it there, but that's part of the broader censorship narrative he's made elsewhere. Again, without any proof and the fact that bookstores and libraries don't stock it or feature it. That's an independent decision. That's actually a good thing. We want independence from all of these different organizations. So. So to say that censorship, that's nonsense. There's a limited amount of shelf space in smaller bookstores, in libraries. They already have enough problems without worrying about your book or this one book. And to use them as part of this broader censorship narrative. Censorship has a very specific meaning in the way that they're using it. In terms of free speech. It has to do with government suppression. That's it. That's the First Amendment. The government cannot suppress your speech. When they're talking about it, they're talking about the markets, they're talking about the newspaper market, Amazon's market. Meaning, are they accepting advertising? Meta is not a government entity. They are right to do whatever they want with their violations. I have a lot of problems with their violations, actually, because at Conspirituality, we've had a few posts taken down for misinformation when I was doing what I'm doing right here as I'm featuring someone else spreading misinformation, and then I'm talking about it. But the AI driven algorithm or the AI driven systems they have in place to monitor for that, and then you have no way to get in touch with them. It's a shitty system. That is not censorship. However, in terms of free speech, again, very specifically, they're using it as, as a First Amendment right argument here. And the same with bookstores and libraries. You could possibly say, well, libraries are government institutions, but even then they have no mandate to carry any single book. That's enough. Tony Lyons. I want to go through some of the other claims by the speakers and contextualize them for this Conspirituality bonus episode. I'm Derek Barris and if you're listening on the Patreon or Apple Podcasts feed as a subscriber, thank you. And if you're listening to this bonus sample via the main feed, if you're able to support us and you want to listen to the full episode, please do so. The link is in the show notes. You've been listening to a Conspirituality bonus episode sample. To continue listening, please head over to patreon.com conspirituality where you can access all of our main feed episodes ad free, as well as full four years of bonus content that we've been producing. You can also subscribe to our bonus episodes via Apple subscriptions. As independent media creators, we really appreciate your support.
[09:28]
C
Class is now in session and the UPS store is here to help you ace arriving on campus. Our certified packing experts can pack everything you need from desktops to decor. Plus, when you pack and ship with us, you get our exclusive pack and ship guarantee. Your items arrive safe or your money back. Restrictions and limitations apply. To get a 20% off packing coupon and for full details, visit theupsstore.com packing Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying. Today, while I'm letting go of of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class, I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.
[10:26]
B
1-800-contacts.