Podcast Summary

The Consumer VC: “The ‘Better-For-You’ Food Lie No One Talks About”

Guest: Tyler Mayoras, Managing Director at Manitree
Host: Mike Gelb
Date: January 12, 2026

Overview

This episode features an in-depth conversation between Mike Gelb and Tyler Mayoras, a highly influential investor known for backing disruptive food and wellness brands. The discussion explores the evolving definition of "better-for-you" in food, why the category has often missed the mark, changing acquisition standards for CPG companies, lessons from plant-based investing, and practical advice for founders and aspiring food investors. Mayoras provides candid insights drawn from decades of experience, including both his investment successes (like Boca Burger, Health-Ade, and Good Culture) and hard-earned lessons from failure.

Key Topics & Insights

1. Tyler’s Transition into Food & Impact Investing

• Backstory: Tyler started as a generalist investor, with a pivotal moment coming from working on a farm bankruptcy and learning about U.S. crop allocation (00:59).

  “All that corn and soybean… none of that's fed to humans. It either goes to animals here in the US or in Dutch China. In China. And that was an eye-opening experience to me.” — Tyler (01:08)

• Became motivated to invest in health-oriented, sustainable food companies.

2. Lessons from Scaling Boca Burger and the Plant-Based Boom (03:00–07:50)

• Early plant-based investment: Boca Burger was highly profitable at small scale; scaling to $50M revenue sacrificed profitability for growth, following the then-standard playbook of selling to big CPG at 2x revenue, with little emphasis on EBITDA.
• Changing landscape: CPGs now only look to acquire companies at $200M+ revenue and significant profitability (10%+ EBITDA margins), a reversal from past trends.

  “Now CPG is really looking to acquire companies $200 million plus… and they want them to be strongly profitable.” — Tyler (04:02)

• Plant-based burgers’ downfall: Early entrants like Impossible and Beyond veered into ultra-processed territory, which eroded consumer trust and health claims.

  "They needed to be better for you and much more sustainable. … They were more sustainable but they weren’t better for you. And that I think is really what hurt." — Tyler (07:31)

3. What “Better-for-You” Really Means (07:48–12:19)

• Manitree’s mandate: Investing requires strong, defensible evidence of nutritional or wellness improvement for consumers, with a focus on longevity.
• Ingredient standards: Avoiding red-flag additives like sucralose or niche categories like THC and nicotine for fund investments, though Tyler himself has made personal angel investments in those spaces.

  “If sucralose is the number one or number two ingredient, I think we would probably pass on that.” — Tyler (09:30)

• Natural sweeteners and sugar alcohols (stevia, monk fruit, maltitol) are acceptable if taste and health standards are met.

4. Brand Positioning: Health > Sustainability (13:01–14:16)

• Consumer priorities: Health benefits and taste consistently outrank sustainability as purchase motivators.

  “Sustainability is probably a lower priority than dietary benefits… you have to first lead with what affects the consumer and that really comes down to taste and their health.” — Tyler (13:13)

• Organic as a leading call-out: Cites Verde Beef’s market research—organic label has higher consumer impact than regenerative or grass-fed claims.

5. On Diets and Company Philosophy (14:16–16:52)

• Tyler is plant-based for longevity and health, but Manitree operates diet-agnostically, investing in both meat and plant-based brands.
• Plant-based diets: Advocates for moderation and diversity in plant-based foods (“eat food, not too much, mostly plants”), emphasizing the healing and gut-health effects of vegetables.

6. Startup Lessons: Cool Beans & Navigating Frozen (17:34–22:02)

• Cool Beans’ journey: Created to fill a Whole-Food Plant-Based gap in the frozen aisle. Ultimately failed due to frozen’s unique distribution and promotional challenges, along with a too-niche target market.

  “Unless you have 5 million plus on the balance sheet that you can use for marketing, that product's never going to turn.” — Tyler (00:00; repeated at 56:15)

• Strong advice to avoid starting in frozen or refrigerated, advocating for shelf-stable products to achieve scale and profitability before entering grocery.

7. Snack Investing: Simple Processing vs. Ultra Processing (22:22–24:50)

• Recognizes that some processing is required for convenience but looks for brands with limited, natural ingredients—“simple processing”—over industrial ultra-processing with gums, fillers, and preservatives.
• Most emerging brands start with co-manufacturing to achieve cost efficiency.

8. Founder Alignment, Financials, and Crossing Channels (25:08–32:06)

• Due diligence: Ingredient/nutrition labels reveal whether founders genuinely prioritize consumer health or just employ marketing spin.
• Scaling to mass: Only backs brands likely to succeed both in natural and conventional/mass retail. Strong shelf velocities and a clear top-of-funnel marketing strategy are critical.

  “We wouldn't invest in a company that wasn't going to be both natural and conventional because we need them to get to a size. We're looking to grow companies to 150 million in revenue and you just can't do that natural alone.” — Tyler (27:01)

9. Changing Acquisition Standards in CPG (32:06–37:00)

• CPGs now require brands to be both large and deeply profitable at acquisition; otherwise, the acquired brand gets “orphaned” and starved for marketing resources post-acquisition.

  “If these companies just get orphaned within them … because they went in too small and they didn't have the marketing dollars to continue to grow themselves. And so they just got shut off.” — Tyler (34:05)

• Recent big exits: Simple Mills, Alani Nu, and Poppy—all $200M+ and EBITDA positive.

10. Middle-Market Investing vs. Venture (37:04–47:09)

• Manitree targets $20–$100M revenue companies, investing $20–$40M (often with co-investors).
• Focus is on profitable or near-profitable brands with proven economics, not category creation or high-risk ventures.
• Contrasts later-stage, concentrated portfolios (few, stable, 3x return) with early-stage, higher-risk venture capital (many small bets, outsized winners but numerous zeros).

11. Profitability Benchmarks & Category Creation Cautions (42:11–46:06)

• Profit thresholds: DTC-only brands can hit profitability as low as $20M revenue; brick-and-mortar retail typically requires $50M+.
• Category creation: Highly risky and capital intensive; not in Manitree’s risk profile (“That's not really our fit.” — Tyler, 46:06). Cites Olipop and Farmer’s Fridge as examples of structural innovation better suited for early-stage venture investors.

12. Trends & White Space in F&B (48:39–53:00)

• "Over-saturated" categories: Protein is hot but may be oversaturated in odd categories (e.g., protein popcorn, seasoning).
• Areas for growth: Brain health (functional ingredients, mushrooms, omega-3s), fiber (clean alternatives to Metamucil).
• Mandate expansion: Manitree now also considers fitness, clean beauty, and healthy home.

13. Personal Investing Mindset Shifts (53:00–54:10)

• Tyler changed his stance on THC-infused beverages after investing in and enjoying Nowadays, a social drink with very low THC.

  “If that replaced a whole lot of alcohol in this world, I think we'd be in a better place overall. ... That's something I've really changed my mind about for sure.” — Tyler (53:07)

14. Founder Mistakes and Practical Lessons (55:46–58:27)

• “Going wide too early”: The allure of big national retail too soon can kill brands lacking marketing resources.

  “It's such a huge mistake because unless you have 5 million plus on the balance sheet that you can use for marketing, those … products are never going to turn.” — Tyler (56:15)

15. Advice for Food & Beverage PE Entrants (58:36–60:18)

• Breaking in: Become an industry expert by reading, posting insights on LinkedIn, and/or starting a podcast to build both knowledge and your public expert profile.

  “Basically what you want to do is people to look at you as someone that really knows the industry well and that’s a way to get a foot in the door.” — Tyler (59:33)

Notable Quotes

• On Plant-Based Burgers:
  “They were more sustainable but they weren’t better for you. And that I think is really what hurt.” — Tyler, (07:31)
• On Consumer Priorities:
  “Great that it’s also good for the environment, but that’s less of a factor. Organic is the thing that they lead with.” — Tyler, (13:13)
• On CPG Acquisition:
  “If these companies just get orphaned within them … because they went in too small and they didn’t have the marketing dollars to continue to grow themselves.” — Tyler, (34:05)
• On Early-Stage Mistakes:
  “Unless you have 5 million plus on the balance sheet that you can use for marketing, that product’s never going to turn.” — Tyler, (00:00 & 56:15)
• On Professional Advice:
  “Start posting on LinkedIn … or start a podcast. Then you get to interview a whole lot of people that are really smart and learn from them, as well as position yourself as an expert.” — Tyler, (58:36)
• On Changing his Mind:
  “If that replaced a whole lot of alcohol in this world, I think we’d be in a better place overall.” — Tyler, (53:07)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00 — Opening Mistake: The pitfall of scaling too fast in food/grocery
• 01:08 — Why corn & soy aren’t grown for humans; Tyler’s origin in sustainable food investing
• 04:02 — How the CPG M&A standard flipped from revenue to profit focus
• 07:31 — The fatal flaw in “better for you” plant-based burgers
• 13:13 — What consumer marketing really works: health and organic > sustainability
• 17:34 — Why Tyler launched Cool Beans and why it failed: lessons on frozen food
• 22:22 — How Tyler thinks about investing in snacks and processed foods
• 25:08 — How to tell genuine health-driven founders from health-washers
• 27:01 — Why brands must cross over from “natural” to “conventional” mass retail
• 34:05 — Why small, unprofitable brands get starved within big CPGs
• 40:01 — Investment time horizons in food & beverage PE
• 42:11 — Benchmarks: At what revenue should F&B brands be profitable?
• 46:06 — Why category creation is too risky for Manitree (and who should do it)
• 48:39 — Protein, brain health, and fiber: saturated and blue-ocean opportunities
• 53:07 — Why Tyler changed his mind on low-dose THC beverages
• 56:15 — The #1 founder mistake: expanding into retail too early
• 58:36 — How to stand out and break into food & beverage private equity
• 60:31 — Personal & business book recommendations

Memorable Book Recommendations

• Personal: The Heat Will Kill You First by Jeff Goodell — on climate and human survival (61:31)
• Professional: Generation We: The Power and Promise of Generation Z by Anne Marie Hayek (61:32)

Overall Tone

Conversational, candid, and experienced, with emphasis on practical takeaways, hard-won lessons, and a strong “no-BS” vibe. Tyler is open about his mistakes and clearly passionate about both health-driven investing and the realities of scaling CPG brands.

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