Today's guest is Desi-Rae Campbell. Desi-Rae is a YouTuber, writer, and artist. Her show which I've been on is called 'Just Thinking Out Loud'. Desi-Rae and I talk about racial identity and 'blackness', the notion of racial pride, the differences between America and Desi-Rae's homeland of Jamaica with respect to racial identity, how children think about race, affirmative action, immigration, and more #Ad : Today's episode is sponsored by our friends at Ritual.  We deserve to know what we're putting in our bodies and why, especially when it comes to something we take every day. Rituals clean, vegan friendly multivitamin is formulated with high quality nutrients in bioavailable forms your body can actually use what you won't find sugars, GMOs, major allergens, synthetic fillers and artificial colorants. Ritual is offering listeners of this podcast 10% off during the first three months. Visit ritual.com/Coleman to start your ritual today