What does a conversation between a therapist and his oldest adult kid sound like? Dr Mark A Saunders Sr PhD, LMFT, LPC tackles the growing divide in American politics while breaking down relational counseling with Kris, aka Grizzly, his eldest. Together we unpack what it means to be relational, while trying to open dialogues across ideological differences. We do all this, while never letting go of levity. Please reach out to us with thoughts, opinions, or questions at coolfolks.dadjokes@gmail.com