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As dumb as it sounds, the story that I'm about to tell you is totally true. So it is my 25th wedding anniversary coming up, and my wife and I were going to a restaurant to do logistics planning for the trip that we were going to have. Supposed to be just a light and easy, fun conversation about travel plans. Nothing, nothing complicated. As the conversation kind of progressed, it got into some complicated relational territory, and I wasn't really expecting that, and I don't think she was either. And I don't know about you, but sometimes when unexpectedly emotionally complicated things come up, I get a little dysregulated. And for me, sometimes that involves me being, like, a little clumsy. Like, all of my energy is focused on this emotional context, and it's kind of like I lose all other control. I mean, not really, but a little bit. So we're sitting there having dinner in this nice restaurant with tile floors, which is going to become important. And during the dinner, I dropped my fork onto the floor. And not just my fork, I also dropped my knife. And they clang in a way that resonates throughout the restaurant. And I'm sitting with my back to the restaurant looking out the window. It's one of those half booths, and my wife is sitting in the booth part looking into the restaurant. So as you can see, like, the reaction of all the people, I can't. So I'm already a little disregulated. I'm already clumsy. I'm already not really focusing on, you know, the technical aspects of living, you know, like how to hold my fork in my knife. And I decide that it'd be a great idea instead of just, like, getting up and going to get my knife and fork, which had fallen behind me like, two feet. Somehow, I don't know how I managed that. I decided to lean back in my chair. And this is not, like a substantial chair, and I don't know if you've ever been able to tell, but I'm a substantial guy. I'm pretty tall and I'm pretty heavy. So me, compared to this chair, the physics were not on my side. So instead of getting up, I leaned back to grab my knife and fork, and the chair just was not fit to the task. So I fall back, the chair tips over, I fall back into the restaurant, and the chair kind of comes with me and actually goes on top of me. That's how dynamically I fell and kind of did a roll with the chair landing on top. So at this point, everyone apparently was stopping what they were doing in the entire restaurant. And looking at me. And they weren't looking at me and thinking, like, oh my goodness, this poor amazing man, is he okay? They were looking at me like, okay, like, are we done? Like, how else can you interrupt our meal? Like, what are you gonna do next? And so I was obviously a little embarrassed, picked up my knife and fork. Someone at a table next to me actually made a comment a bit sarcastically, and I sort of brushed that off and then set my chair back up, put my fork and knife down. And my wife looked completely mortified, but also was kind of laughing at the situation. And it got me to thinking about how we all sort of deal with those situations that were not expected, complicated emotional conversations. And that can happen a lot to all of us. But especially I think for a co parent, sometimes it can kind of come out of the blue. You're dealing with somebody with whom you have maybe a long history, maybe not. And in that long history, something didn't go great. Because now instead of being together, you're co parents. And it can come out of the blue. It may not come up explicitly in your conversation, but there's always the subtext. And a situation that can be just like a normal everyday situation can suddenly be complicated by this emotional residue of your relationship. And I know in thinking about my situation at the restaurant, kind of what I want to fix for myself is being able to be a little more spry, like on my feet when I have these emotional situations come up, to be able to handle them without using so much of my brain power, without using so much of my control that I lose control of other things like holding utensils or figuring out that a big man in a little chair can't, like, lean over two feet behind him to grab a knife and a fork in a restaurant. I don't know about you, but my experience at that restaurant would have been a lot better if I hadn't totally embarrassed myself and my wife in front of all the other patrons. For yourself, think about, do you have situations that have occurred in your co parenting that were kind of the moral equivalent of dropping your knife and fork and then leaning over in your chair to try to pick it up instead of just kind of standing up or even holding on to your knife and fork in the first place? How did it unnecessarily complicate your co parenting dynamic? How did it possibly mortify your child it in the process? You know, how did it make you feel to see yourself kind of in real time doing this series of events that just are so stupid and the back of your mind is kind of like screaming out to you, what are you doing? Like, just stop. Like, just stand up, go pick up the knife and fork, sit back down and have a nice meal. I know that we all have those situations. I know that none of us want to be in those situations. So just give it a thought. And if you find yourself in that kind of situation, just understand that it's okay. I mean, we all have those situations happen to us for one reason or another, in one context or another, and we can get past it. I mean, the dinner went fine. I'm still together. We laugh about it now, and we're able to move forward. So even if you fall backwards out of your chair with the chair rolling over you in a crowded restaurant, with everyone looking at you thinking that you're a complete moron, that's not the end of the world. What's important is that you kind of take a second, you think about it, and maybe you do better next time. Maybe you get up out of your chair next time. So I would love if you could, in the comments, tell me a situation that's kind of like that for you. One of you had a situation like that, especially if it's related to co parenting. I think that'd be really interesting to hear from folks. If you want to have more co parenting content, then please, like, subscribe, share this content so that other people can see it too. And I would love to start a conversation about some of the embarrassing, ridiculous things that maybe you got yourself into because you weren't quite ready for the situation that occurred. But you're going to do better next time. Thanks for listening. Take care.
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Hosts: Linda VanValkenburg and Ron Gore
Date: September 29, 2025
This episode delves into the concept of "emotional clumsiness"—how emotionally charged or unexpected moments can disrupt our composure, sometimes leading to embarrassing or regrettable outcomes. Host Ron Gore uses a personal (and humorous) restaurant mishap as a metaphor for the unforeseen challenges that arise during co-parenting. The focus is on self-awareness, forgiving your own missteps, and learning to navigate emotionally tricky scenarios with more grace.
Ron recounts a story about planning his 25th wedding anniversary dinner, which unexpectedly veers into "complicated relational territory."
He describes how, when emotionally overwhelmed, he can become physically clumsy—dropping his fork and knife, then toppling out of his chair when trying to recover them.
The vivid anecdote sets up the episode's theme: how emotional overload can affect even our most basic actions.
"Sometimes when unexpectedly emotionally complicated things come up, I get a little dysregulated."
— Ron Gore [00:53]
Ron draws a parallel between the restaurant blunder and navigating tense moments in co-parenting.
He notes that co-parents often deal with "emotional residue" from past relationships or ongoing challenges, which can turn ordinary interactions into emotionally charged events.
Emotional clumsiness may manifest as saying the wrong thing, overreacting, or handling a delicate situation poorly—mirroring his "moral equivalent" of the dropped utensils.
"A situation that can be just like a normal everyday situation can suddenly be complicated by this emotional residue of your relationship."
— Ron Gore [04:18]
Ron encourages listeners to reflect on similar moments in their own co-parenting experiences: Have they ever "dropped the fork" and tried to fix things in a clumsy, counterproductive way?
He reassures the audience that mistakes are natural and not the end of the world.
The key is to recognize these incidents, learn from them, and approach future situations with a bit more self-awareness and calm.
"What's important is that you kind of take a second, you think about it, and maybe you do better next time."
— Ron Gore [07:01]
Ron invites listeners to share their own stories of emotional clumsiness, especially as they relate to co-parenting, sparking a sense of community and shared learning.
"I would love if you could, in the comments, tell me a situation that's kind of like that for you...especially if it's related to co-parenting."
— Ron Gore [07:20]
Ron’s storytelling is candid, self-deprecating, and humorous—making complex emotional dynamics approachable. He uses relatable metaphors, encourages empathy for oneself, and maintains a hopeful, supportive tone throughout.
The episode offers a heartfelt reminder: Emotional clumsiness happens, especially in high-stakes relationships like co-parenting. The important thing isn’t striving for perfection but rather acknowledging mistakes, learning from them, and being kind to yourself as you grow. Listeners are encouraged to share their own stories and join the conversation.