Ep 1 of 11: Jumped

Summary

CounterClock: Episode 1 - "Jumped" Summary

Introduction

In the premiere episode of CounterClock titled "Jumped," host and investigative journalist Delia Diambra delves into the harrowing story of Nathaniel Frederick Jones, a beloved community member whose life was tragically cut short in a violent crime that remains unresolved after two decades. Delia sets the stage by sharing her personal encounter with violent crime, establishing a profound connection to the subject matter.

Delia’s Personal Encounter with Violent Crime

Delia begins by reflecting on her decade-long career covering various violent crimes, emphasizing the profound impact these experiences have had on her.

Delia Diambra [00:58]: "For some people, there have been distinct moments in our lives where we felt death upon us. It was visceral, overwhelming, terrifying."

She recounts her own traumatic experience on Thanksgiving Day in 2019, where she was violently assaulted while reporting on a local ice cream shop. This personal narrative underscores her dedication to uncovering the truth behind crimes and igniting renewed interest in cold cases.

The Case of Nathaniel Frederick Jones

Delia transitions to the central case of the episode: the mysterious and fatal assault of Nathaniel Frederick Jones in Winston Salem, North Carolina, in November 2002. She provides a detailed background of Jones, highlighting his significance in the community.

Delia Diambra [12:15]: "Mr. Jones was well liked and revered in the black community."

Nathaniel Jones was a 61-year-old widower, pioneering the first black-owned service station in Winston Salem. His establishment, Jones Chevron, was a cornerstone for the local black families, serving not just as a business but as a community hub.

Setting the Scene: Winston Salem

Delia paints a vivid picture of Winston Salem in the early 2000s, detailing its socio-economic landscape and demographic composition.

Delia Diambra [07:15]: "Like most American cities, you have your nice parts of town and your not so nice parts of town."

She describes the city's growth, the prominence of Big Tobacco's R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, and the stark contrasts between affluent neighborhoods and the South Side, known for its lower-income communities and higher crime rates.

The Day of the Crime

Delia meticulously outlines the events leading up to Jones's assault. She details Jones's movements on the evening of November 15, 2002, based on witness testimonies and his own statements.

Delia Diambra [16:54]: "It was dark by the time emergency responders pulled up to the scene and right away they found Mr. Jones lying on the concrete floor of his carport."

Jones was preparing to meet Claude Walker and his fiancée Gloria for a painting job. However, upon arriving at Jones's residence, they found him brutally assaulted and unconscious.

Witness Accounts

Delia incorporates firsthand accounts from key witnesses, notably Calvin Scriven, a close friend of Jones, and Claude Walker, the painter hired that evening.

Calvin Scriven [12:44]: "He was a community grandfather, I guess you could say you were there all along."

Calvin's detailed description provides critical insight into the timeline and nature of the assault. Delia also shares Calvin’s emotional recollection nearly 22 years later, highlighting the lasting trauma the event has caused.

Investigation and Evidence

Delia delves into the police investigation, revealing the initial theory that robbery was the motive behind Jones's assault. She discusses the discovery of cash in Jones's car and home, the missing wallet, and the efforts to identify the assailant(s).

Delia Diambra [38:35]: "For example, we wanted to know if he had any enemy, could he have been specifically targeted?"

Key pieces of evidence include partial shoe prints on Jones's Lincoln Town Car and tampered motion sensor lights, suggesting the assailant attempted to avoid detection.

Timeline Reconstruction

Through interviews and evidence analysis, Delia reconstructs Jones's movements on that fateful evening. She correlates phone records, witness statements, and family testimonies to narrow down the time and circumstances of the assault.

Delia Diambra [32:25]: "Terrence said he specifically remembered the time because he'd looked at the clock when he walked into his front door."

Critical Clues and Lead Detective

Delia introduces Mark Griffin, the lead detective assigned to the case, who meticulously pieced together the timeline and evidence to advance the investigation. She highlights how seemingly minor details, like groceries found inside Jones's home, offered pivotal clues.

Unresolved Questions and Cliffhanger

Despite thorough investigation, many questions remain unanswered. Delia teases the discovery of a crucial witness who observed the assault, setting the stage for the next episode.

Delia Diambra [42:56]: "She knows that's not Mr. Jones in the car. It's all coming up in the next episode of Counterclock."

Notable Quotes

Throughout the episode, Delia integrates poignant quotes from interviews, enhancing the narrative's emotional depth and authenticity:

Calvin Scriven [22:05]: "I was sitting on the porch. A guy came up, a painter came up looking for Mr. Jones' house. He drove over there, and he came right back and said something doesn't seem right over there."

Charles Paul [37:56]: "The family was really torn up about this. And I know that you're working evening shifts. So if there's anything that you can do to accelerate or try to get a beat on who did this to Mr. Jones, you know, the family would greatly appreciate it."

Conclusion

"Jumped" serves as a compelling introduction to CounterClock, blending meticulous investigative journalism with personal storytelling. Delia Diambra's dedication to uncovering the truth not only sheds light on Nathaniel Jones's tragic death but also underscores the broader impact of violent crime on individuals and communities. As the episode concludes, listeners are left eagerly anticipating the revelations promised in the upcoming installment.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Delia Diambra [00:58]: "For some people, there have been distinct moments in our lives where we felt death upon us. It was visceral, overwhelming, terrifying."

• Delia Diambra [12:15]: "Mr. Jones was well liked and revered in the black community."

• Calvin Scriven [22:05]: "I was sitting on the porch. A guy came up, a painter came up looking for Mr. Jones' house. He drove over there, and he came right back and said something doesn't seem right over there."

• Charles Paul [37:56]: "The family was really torn up about this. And I know that you're working evening shifts. So if there's anything that you can do to accelerate or try to get a beat on who did this to Mr. Jones, you know, the family would greatly appreciate it."

Upcoming Episode Tease:

Delia Diambra [42:59]: "She knows that's not Mr. Jones in the car. It's all coming up in the next episode of Counterclock."

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This detailed summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions of CounterClock Episode 1, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Delia Diambra]

For some people, there have been distinct moments in our lives where we felt death upon us. It was visceral, overwhelming, terrifying. The sensation may have whizzed by us in a fleeting second, or maybe it dragged on for minutes, hovering like humidity on a late summer day. No single experience is the same. Becoming a victim of a violent crime sometimes leaves physical scars, but almost always the experience leaves mental scars too. Surviving a life or death situation can change the fabric of who you are. It can alter your entire perception of the world. I've been a journalist for over a decade now, covering just about every type of violent crime you can think of. I've interviewed hundreds of people and written about countless murders, but it wasn't Until Thanksgiving Day in 2019, that violent crime reached out and wrapped its tendrils around me. November 28, 2019 was a sunny, clear morning in southwest Florida where I worked as a broadcast news reporter at the time. And since it was a holiday, staffing was limited. So I volunteered to act as both reporter and my own camera operator. It's a position commonly referred to in the TV news industry as a multimedia journalist, or mmj. I had my story lined up in advance, a plucky little piece about how a beloved longtime ice cream shop was under threat of being demolished to make way for a bigger shopping plaza. Trouble ahead for the twisty treat. That was the headline news story I pitched and my managers had gone for it, which was a win for me because I was looking forward to wrapping up early that day and going to spend time with my family. You see, I was a 27 year old newlywed of about and it was me and my husband's first holiday together. Around mid morning I drove out to the shop, set up my camera gear and was right in the middle of getting video clips of the building's unique ice cream cone shaped exterior with its faded menus in the windows and sticky benches sitting out front, when suddenly I was ambushed. Leave me alone.

[Calvin Scriven]

Leave me alone.

[Delia Diambra]

Leave me alone. A man wearing latex gloves on his hands had come out of nowhere and grabbed me. He wrapped his arms tightly around my shoulders and squeezed, trapping my camera, which was still recording, between my body and his. When I fought back, he threw me to the ground and lunged at me again. I scrambled like a wild animal to put as much distance between us as possible. Somehow still holding onto the camera, which despite being damaged, was continuing to record. Oh my gosh. Sir, I'm calling the police. The man paused, stared for a brief moment, then quickly turned around and jogged toward a parked car about 50 yards behind the ice cream shop. It was broad daylight.

[Calvin Scriven]

Oh my God. Oh my God.

[Delia Diambra]

I was in shock. I'd never experienced anything like this before in my life. Looking back on it now, it was almost like a part of me had left my body and was hovering above that dumpy shopping plaza parking lot, just watching what was happening to me. To this day, I still have trouble revisiting this memory. All I remember thinking is this is bad. This man is going to kill me. A flurry of panicked questions just raced through my mind. Why was he wearing gloves? Was he coming back with a weapon? Why was this happening? I remember quickly checking my body for wounds. Had he stabbed me? Was I bleeding? Thankfully the answer to both those questions was no. But I knew I wasn't going to stay put for long. For all I knew, he could be coming back for round two. So I hoofed it to a nearby intersection where two major roads came together. It was a high traffic area, and my survival instincts told me to get around as many people as possible for protection. With each step toward what I felt was the closest thing to safety, I felt confused, chaotic. Adrenaline was coursing through me. Yet at the same time, I had absolute mental clarity. I knew what I needed to do next. I fished my cell phone out of my back pocket and dialed 911, then ducked behind a few bushes and spotted the man who'd attacked me getting into his car. I just been attacked. I am at the corner of U.S. 41 and Pine Island Road. I've been attacked by a man and I'm at the Twisty Treat restaurant. I am rolling on my camera. I'm the man that approached me. I need help.

[Calvin Scriven]

Please.

[Delia Diambra]

Old US 41 and Pine Island Road at the corner shopping plaza. North Fort Myers Plaza. My next call was to my husband and then my boss. Within minutes, police arrived and were able to arrest the man. The top news story that night at Thanksgiving dinner wasn't about the Twisty Treat's troubles. It was about mine. The whole thing was caught on camera.

[Calvin Scriven]

Ardelia D'Ambro was knocked to the ground.

[Delia Diambra]

She was able to get away and call 911. She drags the camera and herself trying to get away as the suspect, wearing gloves, storms off to his car. It just gives me chills listening to her screaming. I mean, that's something I worry about all the time. Time, time, time. I'm telling you that story because recently I was thinking a lot about what violent crime does to people. How each person who experiences it, as well as those closest to them, reconcile with the aftermath. How does one even begin to tell a story about it? Where I've landed is that I and the victim in this story, Nathaniel Frederick Jones, or Mr. Jones, as he'll most often be referred to, share a common experience. Violent crime came for both of us, and it did what only it can do. It changed everything. What happened to me is certainly different than what happened to him. The crimes were in different cities, decades apart. In my situation, I walked away with my life. Tragically, he didn't. He was 61 years old when he was attacked inside the carport of his home in Winston Salem, North Carolina, in November 2002. Everyone who's ever studied his case agrees that what happened to him was terrible, violent and uncalled for. He never saw it coming, and because of his age and health, he never stood a chance. The stress of being ambushed, beaten and bound took a fatal toll on his already bad heart, and he ultimately died of cardiac arrest. But the question at the center of this case for more than two decades hasn't been what happened to Mr. Jones? It's who? Who carried out the assault that took his life? For some folks, including Mr. Jones loved ones, that question was unequivocally answered in the early 2000s. For others, it wasn't and still hasn't been. And that's because there are some very troubling and concerning facts in this case that I've spent the last year reinvestigating. So let's turn back the clock 22 years to November 15, 2002 this is Counterclock Season 7 Episode 1 jumped I'm your host, Delia Diambra. Winston Salem, North Carolina. Now, compared to what it was like in 2002 isn't all that different. It's grown in population over the past two decades, but its demographic makeup remains as siloed as ever. If you look at the most recent Census data from 2023, you'll find that it's 51% white families, 33% black or African American, and 16% Hispanic or Latino. Like most American cities, you have your nice parts of town and your not so nice parts of town. The south side of Winston Salem is known as the rough part of town. It's where you'll find more lower income communities, older, smaller houses, crime, bumpier streets. You get the picture. The northern and eastern Winston Salem neighborhoods are much more affluent, and sitting smack dab in the middle is the crown jewel of the city, Wake Forest University. The private college is home to roughly 5,400 undergraduate students and sprawls across 340 acres of pristinely manicured land. The Demon Deacons domain was and still is considered to some degree to be a posh paradise compared to other parts of the city where many residents live paycheck to paycheck, working minimum wage jobs or operating mom and pop businesses. The industry that for the longest time had a stranglehold on the vast majority of the city's workforce was Big Tobacco. R.J. reynolds Tobacco Company, which was known for producing Camel cigarettes, had huge manufacturing plants there in the 19th and 20th centuries. In fact, Winston Salem's nickname is the Camel City. At one point, the cigarette giant employed five, six of the city's entire African American Population. A man who decided to break that mold and become his own boss was Nathaniel Jones. In 2002, he owned and operated Jones Chevron, an auto service station that sat at the corner of New Walkertown Road and Carver School Road, two major thoroughfares in the city. His shop was a pillar in the community, particularly for black families. Mr. Jones wasn't just an owner of a thriving business. He was reportedly the first black man to own and operate his own service station in the city, a feat no one before him had achieved. At 61 years old, he was a widower with two adult daughters who were married and had families of their own. He was also a dedicated member of a local church.

[Calvin Scriven]

Mr. Jones was well liked and revered in the black community.

[Delia Diambra]

That's Chuck Byram, a retired Winston Salem police detective who knew Mr. Jones well. Chuck told me that he and the small number of black police officers who worked for WSPD at the time would swing by Mr. Jones Service Station on a regular basis while they were on duty. They respected the fact that he was a mentor for people of color in the city. Plus, his shop was just a cool place to hang out.

[Calvin Scriven]

He was a community grandfather, I guess you could say. The store that he ran, it set right at the intersection of two major roadways and there was always activity in and around it.

[Delia Diambra]

People knew who Nathaniel Jones was. He was a very beloved member of the community. That last voice you heard is Michael Hewlett, a former Winston Salem Journal reporter whose familiarity with Mr. Jones wasn't as personal as Chuck's. But still, Both men knew Mr. Jones for a reason outside of his own reputation.

[Calvin Scriven]

At the time, Chris Paul was this standout basketball player at one of the local high schools. He was the grandfather of an up and coming athlete basketball player by the name of Chris Paul.

[Delia Diambra]

Chris Paul, as in NBA superstar point guard Chris Paul, who is one of the most celebrated and known professional basketball players today. Robin Jones Paul Chris mother is the eldest of Mr. Jones two daughters. Back in November 2002, Chris was just a 17 year old kid from Winston Salem who'd worked hard and achieved national attention on the basketball court. He was a top prospect coming out of high school and had just committed to play college ball at Wake Forest University. This detail, among many others, is important to remember while listening to this story because it was a factor that was on the minds of Winston Salem police officers from the moment they were called to Mr. Jones home in the south south side part of town. On the evening of Friday, November 15, 2002.

[Calvin Scriven]

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[Calvin Scriven]

Okay, stop.

[Delia Diambra]

It was dark by the time emergency responders pulled up to the scene and right away they found Mr. Jones lying on the concrete floor of his carport. He was face down between the driver's side door of his Lincoln Town Car and a small brick step that led to a side door of his home. His head was turned to one side and there was black tape wrapped around his mouth and head like A gag. The same kind of tape had also been used to bind his hands behind his back. He had a noticeable cut on the back of his head, a few bruises on his hands and knees, and according to police reports, there were smudges and drops of blood on the ground around him, up on the adjacent brick wall of his house and on the Lincoln's front driver side door handle. Naturally, EMTs wanted to check him for signs of life, but in order to get to him and do a proper assessment, they had to move him out of the tight space where he was laying. So they dragged his body out of the carport and onto the section of his driveway closest to his house. They cut the tape binding his hands, turned him face up and checked for a pulse. But by that point, it was clear he was gone. They noticed more traces of blood on his service station uniform and undershirt. And that's when they realized they needed to step back and let the first officer who'd arrived on scene take over. That officer looked over Mr. Jones body and called for backup. His next move was to deal with a group of people congregating at the end of Mr. Jones driveway. A man standing in that group was Calvin Scriven, a close friend of Mr. Jones, who was 37 years old in 2002 and lived at 824 Moravia street, an address across the road and directly diagonal from Mr. Jones house. Calvin provided a tape statement to the officers on scene and explained that earlier that evening, around 7:40pm he'd left his house and walked down to 916 Moravia St. To visit with a woman who lived there named Tasha Coleman. The pair had been seeing one another and he'd usually wait for her to get off work so they could hang out. Tasha's house sat across the street and down a few lots from Mr. Jones house in the opposite direction of where Calvin lived. While Calvin was waiting on Tasha to come home, a couple in a car approached him.

[Calvin Scriven]

I was standing at 916 Raver street and a painter came up to me and asked me where Mr. Jones stayed at. Cause he Mr. Jones, he probably doing some painting for Mr. Jones. And I told him he stayed right across the street.

[Delia Diambra]

The painter who spoke to Calvin was a guy named Claude Walker. Claude and his fiance Gloria had made arrangements with Mr. Jones earlier in the day to drop by and give him an estimate to paint four rooms in his house. The only issue was Claude and Gloria had never been to that part of Winston Salem before. They lived in Charlotte, over an hour away. So when they got to Moravia Street. They needed some help with directions.

[Calvin Scriven]

And the painter went across the street. And then like a couple of seconds later, the painter came back telling me that it was somebody laying beside the house in between the car. So I ran over there with the painter and showing up, it was Mr. Jones over there laying in between the car with his hands tied behind his back. And he was face down on the cement. Checked his pokes, and I checked his neck, and I checked his poke on his wrist, see if he was alive. I felt like I felt a little post, but I don't know if I'm not talking about. And I turned his head sideways because he was face down. I didn't know if he was still alive. He was still alive. I didn't want him to die, you know, suffocating with his head face down. The lady whose house I was at, she came across the street and we told her to call 91 1, and she called 91 1. And then I called her over there and I told her to help me check the post and see if he had a post and stuff. I wanted to pick him up, but I didn't pick him up because they kept on yelling me, don't move him. Don't move them. So I didn't move him. We got back in the middle of the street when I heard ride truck coming around the corner. And I flagged the fire truck down. You said the body or Mr. Jones was laying face down. And you described his face as being straight down. Not to the side, not to the side. It was straight down. Okay. Where exactly was he laying? He was laying between the car and the house. Okay. Right beside the step. Please stand. Where did you feel for a pulse? On his. Around his. Up on his neck, throat part and on his wrist. And you said you may have felt a pulse? I felt like I felt the pulse. Was that on his neck or on his wrist? On his wrist.

[Delia Diambra]

That's Calvin's memory from Being in the moment in 2002. I interviewed him earlier this year, though, on his front porch. Nearly 22 years after the crime. He still lives on Moravia Street. By the way, he remembers finding Mr. Jones like it was yesterday.

[Calvin Scriven]

I was sitting on the porch. A guy came up, a painter came up looking for Mr. Jones house. He drove over there, and he came right back and said something don't seem right over there. Then me and him went back over there. That's when we found Mr. Jones laying in the driveway. Mouth was duct taped and his hands were duct taped.

[Delia Diambra]

It's a difficult memory. For Calvin to revisit. Because Mr. Jones wasn't just a neighbor, he was a friend, A figure everyone looked up to on the block.

[Calvin Scriven]

I grew up with his daughters. He used to help me with the community and reunion. He helped me with the reunion every year. He helped contribute. I went to the service station all the time, you know, got my car inspected. I took a lot of family members calls there and got inspected. So he was, you know, he was well known.

[Delia Diambra]

Despite my best efforts, I wasn't able to get Tasha Coleman to do an interview with me. But based on her statements to police back in 2002, her story aligned for the most part, with Calvin's. She told investigators that as she pulled into her driveway at quarter to 8pm she noticed Calvin and some other people crowded in Mr. Jones carport. So she ran over shortly after that is when she dialed 911. The only additional information she provided in her statement was that she'd also tried to find a pulse on Mr. Jones while on the phone with 911. And she admitted to touching the screen door that led into his house while she was over there. Here's Calvin's audio from back then.

[Calvin Scriven]

I asked her to go inside and call the police, but they hadn't got here yet. And as soon as she opened the door, she seen the keys in the door. She just started hollering the scream. She was gonna go inside Mr. Jones house? Yes. Okay. Is it correct that the door was not open? The door? No, the door was not open. It was closed. It was closed. Did she have to unlock the door to get the door open or. No, she opened the screen door. She opened the screen, but not the main door. She didn't even touch the door because she. When she started hollering, screaming. Cause she said he didn't even get. She grew up right next door to him. She been knowing him ever since she was born. Since the best you remember, the main door to the house was closed? Yes. She opened the door and she seen the keys in the door and she just started hollering and screaming. Cause she didn't even make it in the house.

[Delia Diambra]

This detail about Mr. Jones Keys still being in the doorknob is something the first officer on scene also picked up on in his report. He wrote he'd noticed that as well as a motion sensor light fixed to the ceiling of the carport right above Mr. Jones Lincoln that wasn't turning on a streetlight right out front of the home was also dark. So essentially the entire area was just really dim. Minutes after police had Gotten on scene, it started raining. But the good news was that Mr. Jones car and most of the physical evidence inside the carport remained covered. Police officers laid a tarp over his body in the driveway to preserve whatever clues that held while they waited for the medical examiner to show up. Shortly after that, homicide detectives pulled up and dispatched several officers to go look inside Mr. Jones home. You know, to make sure no one was in there hiding, which there wasn't. While doing that, though, they observed that the handle of the outside screen door was broken off and a piece of it was on the ground, which seemed kind of odd to them. But nothing else was out of place. Like inside, for example. There were no signs that a struggle had occurred. No broken furniture, no ransacked shelves. In fact, jewelry, money and electronics were all just sitting out in the open. Back outside the scene in the carport was far more chaotic. Three pieces of mail addressed to Mr. Jones were scattered underneath the left rear passenger wheel of his Lincoln, and a broken watch was sitting slightly beneath the front left part of the car, not far from a tube of chapstick on the ground near where he'd been found. Naturally, with Calvin and Tasha's statements already captured, the growing number of police officers coming to the call turned their attention to the two people who'd first discovered Mr. Jones, Claude Walker and his fiance, Gloria.

[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

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[Delia Diambra]

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[Calvin Scriven]

When I first got here, I went to the wrong house and they said that Mr. John over there by the white van. I said, okay, so I walk over here and my wife, she came over with the car and then that's when I rang the doorbell on the other side. I went to the side door I knocked on, I ring the doorbell. Then after that nobody else. So I came around and I knock on the door and I noticed somebody was laying down on the ground. I don't know what it was, but I knew for sure it was a body, right? And that's when I called over there to the this guy Nick's car. The street, the first house I went to, they got my body laying down on the ground. I said, y'all better call 911 to.

[Delia Diambra]

Clarify what Claude just explained. When you're looking at Mr. Jones home straight on from the street, there was a small porch and front door on the far left hand side of the house, which was usually kept locked and not used for coming and going. On the far right hand side of the home was where the driveway and carport were located. I've included a picture of this in the blog post for this episode so you can get a better sense of what I'm talking about. The door to the house in the carport was what Mr. Jones usually used to get in and out of his home. Because Claude Walker had never been to the address before, he tried the left side door first, which for all intents and purposes looked like an actual front door. But he'd gotten no answer there. So that's why he decided to walk over to the carport, which is where he discovered Mr. Jones looked like he.

[Calvin Scriven]

Was laying on his stomach. Like he was laying to me. Looked like he was laying on his stomach. His hand was tied to the back. Did you see what they were tied with? I knew it was something black, that's all I know. Did you touch the body? No sir, I didn't touch the body. If a man hand tied down like that, you should never touch the body.

[Delia Diambra]

Earlier in the day, around 3.30pm, Claude had spoken with Mr. Jones over the phone and arranged to come by. At 6:30pm Gloria, his fiance, was going to join him.

[Calvin Scriven]

He said that he wanted his house painted and he wanted four rooms painted and that's how I got in contact with him. I didn't know where he lived or what.

[Delia Diambra]

During that conversation, Mr. Jones was working at his service station and promised Claude that he'd close up his shop in time to meet the couple at his house so they could discuss the specifics of the painting job.

[Calvin Scriven]

When you talked to him earlier, he was. You said he was at his job? Yeah, he was at a job. Okay. Do you know the name of his business or. No? All I know, he worked at service to his fox like that. He was telling me on the phone. Okay, so you made contact with him, and he says to call him when you get to Winston. And did y'all discuss anything over the telephone? Yes, we did. We discussed the price of the house and how much and $600. Well, you were gonna pay me $300 down for painting the home as a start. Right. And then when I finished the house, he like it. He, you know, satisfied with the job, he paid me the other 300. You said you've never actually personally met him, correct? With the one that you were going to do the painting? No, I never met him. Never met him. But he talked so nice on the phone and everything, you know, he was a gentleman. Yeah, that's right. He spoke real well. And he told you he was going to pay you cash? Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Delia Diambra]

Shortly after 6pm, about a half hour before the scheduled meeting, Claude and Gloria arrived in Winston Salem. Mr. Jones had told them to just call him when they got into town and he'd direct them to his house. So they used a payphone at a gas station to dial his home and cell numbers. But Mr. Jones never picked up. They kept at this for more than an hour.

[Calvin Scriven]

We called about 30 times. 30 times. And then my wife, she called his daughter.

[Delia Diambra]

The daughter he's referring to is Mr. Jones youngest daughter, Rhonda Richardson Hairston. She lived in Charlotte, and her husband at the time had referred Claude to Mr. Jones for the painting job because Claude had done work at their home in the.

[Calvin Scriven]

Rhonda gave my wife, my future wife, direction to get here. Okay, and we got here, it was 10 minutes to eat, close to about quarter to 10 minutes to eat.

[Delia Diambra]

After speaking with Claude, police interviewed a guy named Brian Lindsey. He lived at 901 Moravia street, which is the residence directly next to Mr. Jones on the left, if you're looking at his home from the street. Brian claimed to have been hanging out around Tasha Coleman's house with Calvin Scriven when Claude and Gloria first came by asking for directions.

[Calvin Scriven]

I was over at 9:15, and I walked over across the street to 9:15 to talk to my friend, girl, Tasha, but she was not home. So I sit in the house and talk to her boyfriend. And we walked out on the porch. And when we walked out on the porch about two minutes later, a car came down the street and pulled in the driveway at 9:15 and asked us whether Nathaniel Jones say and we told him he stayed across the street at 9:05. They say that they had to go talk to him because they had to do some work for him. About 10 seconds later they ran back over across the street and say they seen the man laying on the side of the car. That's when me and Kevin scribbling, we ran across the street and they go, Nathaniel Jones land on the side of the car on the ceiling. Could you see his body at all? I can hear but it was dark. You know, he had on like dark clothes. And somebody checked to make sure, see if he was all right, I guess Tasha, she was checking his heart. And Kevin, he was checking the puff and at the time Kevin was saying he felt a little puff and tucked to say she didn't, she couldn't get no heart. You know, she didn't feel no heartbeat.

[Delia Diambra]

According to Brian, he'd been loitering around his house in several neighbors places all evening and he hadn't seen anything out of the ordinary.

[Calvin Scriven]

And you didn't notice anything unusual before the people pulled up or didn't hear anything unusual in the neighborhood? No.

[Delia Diambra]

Brian's statement to police was brief and to the point, less than three minutes in total. But it's not like anything he said contradicted Calvin, Gloria, Tasha or Claude's version of events. The authorities big takeaway from talking with the witnesses at the crime scene was that they were beginning to triangulate a narrower Timeline of Mr. Jones movements leading up to his death. And it all came down to who was with him and when. The last time anyone had spoken to him. According to police reports, Rhonda, his youngest daughter, had talked with her dad on his cell phone at around 5.45pm at that time, Mr. Jones was alive and well and on his way home from the service station. He told Rhonda he was going to drop off one of his nephews, Terrence Jones, who worked for him, and then go home to meet the painter. When detectives spoke with Terrence at his place across town, he told police that he and Mr. Jones had closed up the Chevron station at 5:30pm after that, they'd gotten into the Lincoln together, ran errands at A tobacco shop and local grocery store. And by 6:17pm they were in the parking lot of Terrence's apartment complex. Terrence said he specifically remembered the time because he'd looked at the clock when he walked into his front door. Now, I've done the math, and it's an eight minute drive from where Terrence lived to where Mr. Jones lived at 9o5 Moravia street, which meant Mr. Jones should have gotten home sometime around 6:25pm or 6:30pm at the latest. That is, if he didn't make any other stops, which everyone agrees he likely didn't because there's no record of that in the case file or witness statements. Based on what Claude and Gloria told investigators, all of their phone calls to Mr. Jones went unanswered after they got into town at 6:15pm the phone records in the case file for his house phone indicate he was not picking up at all after that same time. And there were also a bunch of missed calls on his cell phone during that time frame. So all of that would indicate that Mr. Jones was most likely attacked sometime after 6:15pm or else he should have been answering his phones. So just to recap, the last time Mr. Jones was seen alive was at or around 6:17pm he wasn't discovered in his carport until 7:40ish. After speaking with the witnesses there on scene who'd found Mr. Jones, police forged ahead and kept gathering as much information as possible. Around 9.30pm, two hours into the investigation, a lead detective was assigned the case. That guy's name was Mark Griffin. He walked through the crime scene and sort of took inventory of what first responding officers had learned so far. Around that same time, Mr. Jones family had started to gather nearby. This group included his daughters, grandchildren, son in laws, church friends, neighbors, you name it. Chris Polite, who lived directly behind Mr. Jones and was friends with his relatives, remembers the somber scene.

[Calvin Scriven]

Well, the family was in the church parking lot and the minister, they pastor, and my pastor was there trying to comfort, you know, comforting the family. At the time we was up there, his phone was ringing. I guess people had heard stuff and he still had his phone in his pocket. You could hear his phone ringing and you can hear, you know, nobody, you know, I guess people knowing that he didn't answer his phone. But that phone continued to ring.

[Delia Diambra]

Charles Paul, Mr. Jones son in law, who was married to Robin, explained to detectives how fast word had spread from Rhonda to Robin and eventually to him that something bad had happened on Moravia Street.

[Calvin Scriven]

The painter had called Rhonda and said that wasn't nobody at home. So she wanted me to come over to the house to see if everything was okay. I was on my way and I had both of them on two way talking to them on my way, getting over here. And then by the time I got here, the paramedics and stuff had him on the ground and was tending to him. And they wouldn't let me see him.

[Delia Diambra]

It's during this interview with Charles that detectives mined information about Mr. Jones. For example, they wanted to know if he had any enemy, could he have been specifically targeted? And that's when they learned something important.

[Calvin Scriven]

You don't know why anybody would do him harm unless it was for money or robbery. You said sometimes he carries some money on it? Yeah. How much money does he usually carry on it? I think at least five. $5, 500. Y'all coming from the service station? Where does he usually keep that money? He usually have a briefcase? That's the name. Anything? We was worried about letting them stay in there by ourselves.

[Delia Diambra]

Sure enough, when the Winston Salem Police Department crime scene technician Processed Mr. Jones Lincoln. Shortly after detectives interviewed Charles, the tech found a brown leather briefcase in the trunk that contained gold and silver coins, two bank bags and a total of $1,416 in cash. When the medical examiner arrived at 11pm and looked over Mr. Jones body, he discovered an additional $872 in cash tucked into the 61 year old's front pants pocket and right breast shirt pocket. The only thing missing was his wallet. For police, the absence of that item pointed to a possible motive of robbery gone wrong. And they assumed that Whoever had attacked Mr. Jones either didn't know about the cash in his front pockets and car trunk, or they just hadn't thought to look before leaving the scene. Back at WSPD headquarters, Chuck Byram learned about the crime and took a phone call from one of his colleagues named Jerome Paul. Jerome was off duty and didn't work in the criminal investigations unit. But he was related to Charles Paul.

[Calvin Scriven]

He asked me, chuck, you know the family is really torn up about this. And I know that you're working evening shift. So if there's anything that you can do to accelerate or try to get a beat on who did this to Mr. Jones, you know, the family would greatly appreciate it.

[Delia Diambra]

The robbery scenario was the police department's most promising theory. It steered the investigation from that point forward and for good reason. There were additional clues inside the carport and on the Lincoln Town Car itself that confirmed robbery was likely the suspect or suspect's motive. Police reports explain that there were two faint partial shoe prints found on the hood of the car. And because the vehicle had been pulled in head first and not backed in, the shoe impressions hadn't been rained on and were still visible to the naked eye. They were on an area of the hood that sat directly beneath the carport's overhead motion sensor light. When the crime scene tech took a closer look at the light bulbs of that light, he determined they had been unscrewed just enough to stay in the sockets, but not actually turn on when triggered by the motion sensor. This prompted the lead detective to write in his report that it appeared someone had used the hood to boost themselves up to reach the light and disable it, most likely so that they could commit the crime without being seen. But my question was, how did the suspect or suspects do that without Mr. Jones seeing them? It's pretty risky jumping up on the hood of a car, not to mention physically involved. Well, the answer to that question was in the details of the crime scene. Specifically, right inside Mr. Jones kitchen. The police department's evidence tech had collected some grocery items from Mr. Jones home that were found sitting on his kitchen table. Those items matched what Terrence Jones, his nephew, told detectives he bought for his uncle on their trip home from work Friday evening. So the fact that the groceries had made it inside the house caused detectives to assume that Mr. Jones had most likely been in ambushed shortly after getting out of his car and setting his groceries in his kitchen, then stepping back outside to either retrieve more stuff from his car or while getting his mail from his mailbox, which was mounted to the front right side of the carport. The bigger questions were, how many assailants were there? 1, 2, 3? Were they there all along, just hiding, waiting for the right moment to strike? Investigators didn't know, but they were about to speak with a witness who happened to be driving by the crime scene at the precise time Mr. Jones was jumped. And what she saw is perhaps the most critical piece of information in this entire story.

[Calvin Scriven]

In that area, it was Dawg.

[Delia Diambra]

She goes by, and she knows that's not Mr. Jones in the car. It's all coming up in the next episode of Counterclockwise. Episode two, Jarring. Listen. Right now.

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