Big Game Breakdown: Keys to the Game for Georgia-Tennessee, Notre Dame-Texas A&M, LSU-Florida, more!

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Cover 3 College Football Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Big Game Breakdown: Keys to the Game for Georgia-Tennessee, Notre Dame-Texas A&M, LSU-Florida, more!
Date: September 10, 2025
Hosts: Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Bud Elliott
Main Theme:
An in-depth analysis of 2025's major college football matchups, including Georgia-Tennessee, Notre Dame-Texas A&M, LSU-Florida, plus key injury and depth chart updates, and insightful discussion about polls, playoff implications, and under-the-radar games.

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Episode Overview

The Cover 3 team delivers a comprehensive breakdown of the upcoming week’s most high-profile college football games. With a focus on X-factors, schematic matchups, recent depth-chart developments, and playoff landscape implications, the hosts dissect evolving storylines and provide context-rich analysis to help fans understand what’s at stake. Lively banter includes pointed commentary on the AP Poll process, the impact of injuries and QB controversies, and the broader consequences of this weekend’s showdowns.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The AP Poll & College Football Rankings (04:03–08:23)

• Polls as a Thought Exercise:
  • Tom Fornelli laments Sunday AM ballot deadlines: “Nobody’s going to be able to, to really sit down and think through their ballot from 1 through 25.” (05:18)
  • There's skepticism about whether non-beat reporters or national analysts would do better, given time constraints.
  • Bud Elliott: “The people who are most qualified to vote … are probably too busy doing their real jobs.” (07:01)
• Fun vs. Seriousness:
  • Polls are popular for fan discussion but are not taken seriously by the hosts, who see them as educational rather than definitive.

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2. Depth Chart & Injury Updates (08:09–13:33)

• Key Injury/Depth Updates:
  • Colorado QB situation: Ryan Staub expected to start, detailed back-and-forth on Coach Deion Sanders’s handling of the news. (09:39–10:30)
  • LSU’s Offensive Line: Braylon Moore's status remains unclear (tightrope surgery), Chester possibly shifting to center. "Offensive line remains a concern for LSU, for sure." (11:47)
  • Florida: Edge rusher McCray banged up; pass rush a concern. (12:13–12:35)
  • Tennessee: Both starting corners are out for Georgia game.
  • Other notes: Possible Haynes King injury at Georgia Tech, status uncertain. (12:49-13:33)

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3. Big Game Breakdowns

A. Notre Dame vs. Texas A&M (14:39–31:44)

• Notre Dame’s Questions:
  • Tom Fornelli: “Notre Dame now currently ranks 117th in EPA per drop back. That's not great.” (15:55)
  • Concerns about offensive line protecting CJ Carr; lack of balanced attack shown against Miami; Irish defense is “very blockable on the defensive interior.” (19:01)
• Texas A&M’s Offense:
  • Bud Elliott: “Young receivers … have been playing really, really well, but they've also played defenses that just can't cover anybody.” (19:29)
  • Aggies have been more pass-heavy, possibly by intent to build chemistry with new WR transfers; uncertain if this is sustainable in higher-leverage games. (21:52)
• Defensive Schematics & Matchup Keys:
  • ND’s zone/man coverages vs. Marcel Reed’s strengths as a runner and passer; Miami exposed ND’s nickel corner, could A&M’s Mario Craver do the same? (25:39)
• Playoff & Stakes:
  • Panel debates playoff eliminator status:
    • Bud Elliott: “I think this is an elimination game [for Notre Dame].” (26:46)
    • Chip Patterson: “If Notre Dame starts 0-2... they don't control it anymore.” (28:50)

B. Georgia vs. Tennessee (32:11–43:07)

• Offensive Questions:
  • Georgia’s ‘Cha-Cha Slide’ passing game:
    • Chip Patterson: “Not a lot of vertical, not a lot of down[the field].” (33:13)
    • Tom Fornelli: “Gunner is averaging 4.6 air yards per attempt...126th out of 130 qualified quarterbacks.” (38:22)
  • Bud Elliott notes: “Offensive line for Georgia is a total mystery to me.” (35:17)
• Tennessee’s Tweaked Offense:
  • New QB Joey Aguilar “has been hitting open guys” but not facing pressure; uncertainty about how he’ll react to Georgia’s defense. (36:43)
  • Tennessee's wider variety of formations may challenge Georgia’s proven dominance over their system. (41:21)
• Star Power:
  • Georgia’s linebackers highlighted as the best since 2021; “CJ Allen's a freak.” (41:44)
• Ball Security:
  • Chip Patterson: “Nate [Frazier] should be running first… he gets pulled because he can’t hold on to that football.” (42:22)

C. LSU vs. Florida (44:37–52:14)

• LSU’s Offensive Woes:
  • Tom Fornelli: “I am very worried about the offensive line… 101st in points per drive so far this season. They're losing yards on so many snaps.” (45:21)
• Florida’s Pass Rush Problem:
  • “Ranks 111th nationally in pressure rate on defense…not getting after quarterbacks.” (46:09)
• Matchup X-factors:
  • If Banks plays for Florida, he could “cause some real problems” vs. LSU’s shaky OL.
  • Florida’s lack of a consistent outside WR presence (“Eugene Wilson’s 4.7 yards per catch” – Bud, 50:00), plus reliance on freshman WRs in a hostile Death Valley.
• LSU’s Improved Defense:
  • Noted turnaround from “absolute sieve” to “locked in playing good assignment football.” (50:30)

D. USF at Miami (52:38–55:38)

• USF Magic Running Thin:
  • Tom Fornelli: “What USF has done through two games just isn't sustainable…they are reliant on big plays.” (52:43)
  • “The average touchdown USF has scored this season has been 31.4 yards.” (53:42)
  • Miami’s pass rush expected to make life harder; USF QB Byron Brown’s workload a concern for long-term health.
  • Suggestion: “Maybe you just take this one, sit it out. Load management special.” (55:25)

E. Other Notables & Lightning Round (56:10–74:37)

• Clemson at Georgia Tech:
  • Can Clemson run at all? Offensive line mental errors and run game struggles linger. (57:26–58:38)
  • Haynes King’s health at GT remains crucial; Jeff Sims as wild card.
• Vanderbilt at South Carolina:
  • South Carolina struggling offensively; Lenora Sellers provides highlight moments but passing development lagging. (60:02–63:00)
  • Vandy’s defensive surge, blue-collar ethos discussed—but South Carolina’s talent edge and environment noted.
• Arkansas at Ole Miss:
  • Ole Miss’ injury worries (esp. RB Simmons); Arkansas may pose a threat if key Rebs are out.
• Pitt at West Virginia (Backyard Brawl):
  • West Virginia injuries dampen optimism; Pitt linebacker play “still classically Pitt.” (69:03)
• Friday Night Watch:
  • Kansas State at Arizona, NC State at Wake, plus a late-night slate with interest in USC-Purdue and less heralded matchups.
  • “Friday’s got some bangers.” (70:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Polls’ Real-World Value:
  “AP poll stuff we do is fun. It's a thought exercise to make people think. … but I don’t think people should take the AP poll seriously.” – Bud Elliott (06:08)

• On Notre Dame’s Playoff Fate:
  “If Notre Dame starts 0–2... they don't control it anymore.” – Chip Patterson (28:50)

• On Georgia’s Offense:
  “Not a lot of vertical, not a lot of down. … the passing is kind of like the Cha cha slide, slide to the left, slide to the right.” – Chip Patterson (33:13)

• On USF’s Reliance on Big Plays:
  “The average touchdown USF has scored this season has been 31.4 yards.” – Tom Fornelli (53:42)

• On South Carolina’s QB Play:
  “Is Pavia the better thrower in this game? Because I think he is.” – Bud Elliott (61:58)

• On Late Night CFB Fun:
  “I want to see Lonergan, see how he plays. Minnesota-Cal is pretty interesting.” – Bud Elliott (73:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:03 – Debate on the AP Poll, its value, and process flaws
• 08:09 – Major injury/quarterback updates: Colorado, LSU, Tennessee
• 14:39 – Start of “Big Game Breakdown”
  • Notre Dame vs. Texas A&M: 14:39–31:44
  • Georgia vs. Tennessee: 32:11–43:07
  • LSU vs. Florida: 44:37–52:14
• 52:38 – USF at Miami, sustainability of Bulls’ start
• 56:10 – Lightning round: Clemson-GT, Vandy-SC, Arkansas-Ole Miss, Pitt-WVU, and more

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Summary Tone & Style

The episode features fast-paced, knowledgeable, and slightly irreverent banter. The hosts’ rapport offers both in-depth tactical analysis ("find the duck" in opponent’s secondary) and wry humor (comparing offensive styles to the "cha-cha slide"). They emphasize context—injuries, transfer impacts, and schematic tweaks—while remaining skeptical about broad narratives and always eager to revisit assumptions after new games play out.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Expect volatility in several major matchups due to QB uncertainty and offensive line struggles.
• Notre Dame’s and Texas A&M’s performances will shape the early playoff picture; LSU’s offense still a work in progress.
• Georgia, Tennessee, and South Carolina are all facing internal questions, with key personnel losses affecting outcomes.
• Several under-the-radar games could have outsized impact, especially in the Big 12 and ACC.
• The hosts prioritize detailed matchups, honest reflection, and break down common narratives without hype.

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This summary is designed to be a comprehensive guide for listeners who missed the episode or want quick, referenceable insights on all the major games and storylines discussed.

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[Chip Patterson]

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[Bud Elliott]

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[Tom Fernelli]

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[Bud Elliott]

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[Tom Fernelli]

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[Bud Elliott]

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[Chip Patterson]

And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fenelli, that's Bud Elliott. I'm Chip Patterson coming to you [e-mail] cover3 and everywhere. Get your podcast on the man. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe Smash that like and come and join us in the chat. AKA the COVID 3 tailgate where Kyle jumped in at 8:59am Eastern Time and said Bud is praying Notre Dame's defense is good enough that he doesn't have to say something nice about Marcel Reed. Oh baby, that is right. That Texas A and M Notre Dame game is going to be one of our spotlights for for big Game Breakdown. The the age old rivalry of Bud Elliott and Marcel Reed will get another chapter as we both get the preview and then obviously the recap on the Aggies trip up to South Bend. But I'm not going to cut you off here. Any any response here without without spoiling of course, your analysis of what you're expecting from the Texas A and M offense on the road against the Fighting Irish.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, it's another great opportunity for Marcel Reed to show that he has it in a big game. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Chip Patterson]

You just gave me that sponsored segment voice. I appreciate it. That's how I know you've got the real cannons loaded for later. Okay, boys, before we get into big game breakdown in Martin Luther Stob, among other depth chart updates to keep an eye on Tom, you know, we, I don't think that we started this. We were definitely early. Like, one of the advantages of being out here 11:00am I mean, we started doing Pole Assassin three, four years ago. And, you know, full transparency here. It's because people love top 25s, people love polls, people love rankings. We've kind of been told there's no shortage of that kind of stuff and people still continue to consume it. So, you know, we came out and you did a lot of exposing, you know, of some of the issues with voters, ballots, and now it has become daggom, one of the biggest conversation topics in the whole sport this week. You, you mentioned that you had something that you wanted to offer up to, to sort of bring this thing to a button before we dive into game previews. What's on your mind?

[Tom Fernelli]

First of all, I do think we started it because people have complained about the AP poll forever. But I didn't hear everybody talking about how beat reporters shouldn't be voting in the AP poll until after we mentioned it. Now everybody's talking about it. But my thought on that expands to what I want to say today is that I don't think getting rid of beat reporters and having people who are able to watch college football as a whole will solve anything. Because I do think there's another problem with the process of the AP poll, like, and it's the same process with other polls. I was a part of the FWAA Super 16 poll for the last few years. I asked out. I didn't. When they offered to have me back again this year, I didn't want to come back because the problem is you have to have the poll in by like 8am on Sunday. So with my responsibilities on Saturday night and all the work I have to do, I really wasn't able to put the kind of thought and time into putting together my ballot that I wanted to. And the AP poll suffers from the same thing. So even if you put us, the four of us on this poll, you put all the other, you know, national like media types, all the other podcasts, if we just did that, if you keep the same deadline on Sunday morning, nobody's going to be able to, to really sit down and think through their belt from 1 through 25. I couldn't do it from 1 to 16 and feel great about my ballot. So I think that if you want to actually have a reflective poll where people take the time and don't just find themselves doing what they do, which is up if you win, down if you lose, which is how SMU ends up still on so many ballots and other stuff like that, like the, the, the woman who did the Florida thing, that's just a mistake. Like that happens. That is going to happen. I wish she would have just said, yeah, I screwed up instead of, you know, what she said. But I don't mind that because that's going to happen. It's the rest of the, the process where people are just moving up and down and not giving up their priors. Not only because they're unable to watch everything, but because they don't have the time to think it through. So if the AP poll and all these polls wanted to push to Monday, I guarantee you would see a better AP pollution.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, look, I, I agree with that. The AP poll stuff we do is fun. It's a thought exercise to make people think. I don't think people like should take the AP poll seriously. A lot of people really care about the AP poll. I mean like I, every week I get texts from my buddies and my friends, hey, did you see we moved up to here or this or that. I'm like, I didn't. I usually take a look at it like a couple minutes before the show starts and then we rip it apart. But it's great as like a thought exercise to say, you know, wait a second, why is South Carolina over Vanderbilt when Vandy smoked, you know, Vatak away and Carolina beat him on a pretty friendly neutral and needed a kick return to, to really pull away there. But I, I don't know, man. Like, I agree. I think the people who are, a lot of the people who are most qualified to vote at the Tom's Point are probably too busy doing their real jobs.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I, I don't have.

[Bud Elliott]

Which I think goes for the committee as well.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I, I, Our CBS Sports 136 ballots are due at 5:00pm Eastern Time on Sundays. And I, my workflow is basically in that like 1pm to 4pm window is when I crunch everything and that's When I'm reviewing everything, that's when I get a lot of stuff that sets the table for upon further review. And to your point, Tom, I getting that together, I mean, when I'm putting together my prediction of what the voters are going to do on Saturday night, that is not the same part of my brain as if I was actually when I actually have to sit down and fill out my opinion of how these teams should stack up against each other. But I would listen. There's a comment in the tailgate that just, just went by. The AP top 25 poll gets flooded by NFL News. You know, so that's, I, I don't think that you've got the, I don't think you've got the worst suggestion right there. We'll, we'll be sure to direct all of our complaints and commentary to the man who is very much still responsible for the AP Top 25. That would be Ralph Russo.

[Tom Fernelli]

I did text her off this morning.

[Chip Patterson]

This morning.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Is it more Giants? More Giants?

[Tom Fernelli]

Yes, because the Giants, the Giants are only two games back now. The Mets lost again. The Giants won again. Ralph is, he's shaking in his boots. He said he's gonna block me.

[Chip Patterson]

Tough, tough, tough, tough, tough times for our friend Ralph Russo, who of course and, and for let it be read into the record, he does not work for the Associated Press anymore. He's doing excellent work at the Athletic and but we should still bother him with all AP top 25 complaints. Okay, I mentioned it Wednesdays. Some of this will be packed into some of our game breakdowns. But as we've gotten some, some injury updates, some depth chart updates. I've got one. I don't know how many y' all have, but Ryan Staub, third string quarterback to start the year at Colorado, is expected to be named the starter for what is a pretty big game coming up against Houston this weekend. Big 12 play getting started. Colorado, Houston, Kansas State, Arizona. Some, some important games for teams that are not necessarily competing for the Big 12 title, but definitely need some of these more coin flippy type games if they want to be able to put themselves in the postseason. Tom, what'd you make of, of Staub getting the nod here?

[Tom Fernelli]

I don't know what you're talking about. The media is making things up. I have not named him the starter. I'm just giving him more reps in practice than anybody else.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, did Dion take issue with the report?

[Tom Fernelli]

Oh yeah. Dion was upset about it yesterday. He's like, can't believe the stuff you Guys just will say. And then he goes, I am. He is taking more first team snaps than the other guys in practice. Which is what led to the report to begin with. Yeah, I. It is. We'll see. I mean, I think it's clear, like, you went through the entire off season not naming a starter, even though you brought in Salter. We all assumed it was Salter and juju Lewis, but maybe Staub, who has more experience in this offense because he didn't just join the team over the off season, was looking much better in practice. And maybe he's, you know, he came into that game and he played pretty well. So maybe Dion's just going to kind of play the hot hand because this is the first time we have seen him with like a quarterback situation because it's always been his son. So you always knew who the starter was. Now he's got to actually evaluate these guys.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, I, I think Salter is a poor fit for how they've been using him. You know, he's not. He's not a real good passer. They don't seem to have a. An offensive staff that really gets some of the. The spread option QB run stuff, you know, juju. I. Look, maybe juju Lewis will turn out to be really, really good, but I thought he made a real smart decision to reclassify and get his bag now because I think other people in the class were catching up to him in the recruiting class. So I didn't have. We've kind of had a consistent take. Good player. Don't know. He's like a, hey, save your program type guy, especially not early.

[Chip Patterson]

So would that be like Braden Faison or Faison Brandon? And who else from that class would you say? It's like?

[Bud Elliott]

There's a lot of guys. I would take over him. Keyshawn Dia Faison. Yeah. I, I don't think he'd be top five in this year's class.

[Chip Patterson]

Interesting. Any. But any other injury updates or depth chart stuff, maybe that's not included in some of the games. We're looking at attack Declan here.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Actually, let's go ahead and had a couple here. So Braylon Moore, the offensive lineman for lsu.

[Chip Patterson]

Center, right?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Because Chester's gonna have to shift over and play center now. Kind of up and down when he came in, in the game against Louisiana Tech. We'll see. We'll see how that works. I think offensive line remains a concern for LSU for sure. So other guys here. Dante Corleone is going to miss a few weeks, hopefully to Be back for the Kansas game.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Bud Elliott]

Who else here?

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, did we talk about McCray edge rusher at Florida? If we're going to talk about Florida, lsu, that's another.

[Bud Elliott]

He was banged up like preseason too. Like he. Florida's pass rush was not good against usf. So I mean like that's, that's worth noting but like, I don't know, it's a loss. It's like more of like a loss of what could be because he hasn't actually been playing in the games and impacting them, you know.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Trying to think who else here. Those guys aren't any good. I think that's pretty much it right now. We've already. We'll talk about the Tennessee. Both corners are out, I guess. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, I gotta. Got a little Haynes King update. Non update. So you know.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Have you seen these Brent Key press conferences?

[Tom Fernelli]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

No. I. I'm guessing Kane's gonna play, but it's a guess.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's. I mean we've, we've put him on the Jay Kaner all Star list. And if we do that, we're expecting you to pick your body, your boat, your bones up off the ground, put them back into your skin suit and go out there and play more football. So with that, with the Clemson game being on deck, that is my expectation. All right, coming up on the other side, we begin big game breakdown with a look at Texas A and M's trip up to South Bend, Georgia to Knoxville and Florida. What you got? Getting up off the mat and more.

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[Chip Patterson]

Back here on the COVID 3 podcast and on Wednesdays, well we we save our our page picks for our lock show on Thursdays. So Wednesdays is a chance for us to go inside the matchup. We're telling you the X factors where these games will be decided. It's an in depth breakdown. It's the original big game breakdown. Getting the world famous original big game breakdown started here with Texas A&M's trip up to Notre Dame. Before we get to our latest Marcel Reed update, Tom, what are we gonna get from Notre Dame? Fight it. Listen, the the college football season at this point, you know, because we're just throwing ourselves into it and overreacting to every little bit. When a team takes week two off, I come back and I'm like, man, where is, where have the Fighting Irish been? They are Owen1 officially in the ledger, but no one is panicking about this team given the opponent that they played the way that the game went. So what do you think we're gonna see from Notre Dame after getting a week off in the wake of the loss to Miami?

[Tom Fernelli]

I've got no idea. I mean this is like we only have the one data point to really go off of and they were facing a defense that looks really, really good through their first two games. So it's like you don't know how much of the results that we saw against Miami are actual problems with Notre Dame or it was just, man, we played a really dang good team and we didn't play great on the road because Notre Dame now currently ranks 117th in EPA per drop back. That's not great. So like you're going up against A M. I don't know that you're gonna be able to just drop back and run the ball against them. Especially because you really couldn't run the ball against Miami. Like Jeremiah Love did not have a great game. Their running game was outside of, I think like one drive. If I remember correctly, they really struggled to move the ball on the ground consistently. So I need to see if this offense with CJ Carr can show a little bit better balance, can show an ability to move the ball because we can say from what we have seen of Texas A&M's defense through the first two games, I do think there's some vulnerability there. Because A and M only ranks 62nd nationally in pass EPA per drop back, despite the fact that they've played who, UTSA and New Mexico or who was it? Was it New Mexico or. No, Utah State?

[Bud Elliott]

Right coach, wrong team.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah. So I don't know. And also my concern is that offensive line, will they be able to protect CJ Carr? Because they were very much overwhelmed by Miami's defensive front in that game. And this is an A and M team that gets a lot of pressure on teams so far, despite the fact that they're not blitzing like they. They blitz enough, but they're not a heavy blitz team. They're mostly dropping back into coverage, getting pressure with their front, and that's work to a degree. They're giving up yards, but they're not really giving up a ton of explosive plays. And I'm wondering if you're Mike Elko, because you are facing C.J. carr, who is now in his second career start. Do you blitz a little more? Do you get a bit more aggressive to see if he can, you know, read things quickly enough before the snap and get the ball out on time before you get there, maybe force some mistakes? Because I. I do think that if you look at the Irish, there are a lot of questions we have about this offense that just haven't been answered. And the fact that they're starting their season with Miami and Texas A and M, two teams who are legit College Football Playoff contenders. We might have to wait another week before we ever really start getting any answers as to what this Notre Dame offense is.

[Bud Elliott]

I mostly agree with Tom there. I think when you look at the lines of scrimmage in this game, Notre Dame is worth worse on both lines of scrimmage than they were last year. A M is worth on. Is worse on the defensive line of scrimmage than they were last year. I think A M is better on the offensive line now that father is back at left tackle. So, you know, ultimately, I don't think A M's defense has been anything special this year. Like, they're okay. They're not as good as they were last year, in my opinion. Notre Dame, I. I think this is going to be really interesting. Miami blocked them all day. Like, Miami's offensive line dominated in that ball game. Like, I think Miami may.

[Chip Patterson]

Which might be. Miami might be.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, Miami. Miami's got three for sure draft picks on that line, and I think the potential for a fourth. So, yeah, Miami's offensive line is on the very short list for the best in the Country. But I do think Notre Dame is very blockable on the defensive interior. I think their edge guys do have some juice, so we'll have to watch. You know how that works. But I mean, ultimately Miami could block them. You know, who else is on the short list for the best offensive line in the country, like A M? I fully think A and M can block Notre Dame here. The question is like, so these young receivers for, for the Aggies have been playing really, really well, but they've also played defenses that just can't cover anybody. Utah State can't cover. Texas State put up what, almost 50 on. On UTSA. So they've played two really horrific defenses so far from the lower level. Notre Dame typically can cover now. I don't think their corners had the best game against Miami, but I. Different kind of receivers. We'll see. I, I do think that there's a chance that Marcel has good looks in this game. If Notre Dame leaves their corners one on one, I, I think, I think there's a chance that A M's guys can win those. And I'm also curious, like how much zone do you get? Because Reed is legitimately a pretty good runner and a good scrambler. And do you want to play a bunch of man against these wide outs or do you want to play a little more zone and hit him and make them sit down and not, not play chase with a bunch of guys who are pretty small. So I'm really interested to see how they play it. Like this is a fun stylistic matchup.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yes, it like to the A and M offense. I. I don't know that we know who they are yet. Or at least I don't. I don't believe that what we've seen is who A and M wants to be as much as they've just kind of been that way. Maybe because they're saving some stuff. Because this is a team that you would think with their personnel and offense they would lean more into the run game, but through two games they've been more pass heavy. They ranked 91st in rushing rate nationally at 47.8%, although they've been better running the ball as far as EPA is concerned, where they rank 30th and they're 50th in passing EPA. So is like their actual philosophy to have Marcel Reed dropping back to pass that often or is this just been like a. Hey, we're facing two teams with terrible secondaries, so we're just going to be able to pick it apart with our guys because like Notre Dame they were like 50, 50 zone man against Miami, which is much more balanced than they typically were last year. Especially man heavy. But they were torn apart when they were in man against Miami. So do we see them go more zone? And Bud, you mentioned it like their pass rush against Miami. They rank 133rd in pressure rate after only one game, obviously, but there was just no pressure and Chip, you want to say something? So what'd you want to say?

[Chip Patterson]

Well, I. I've just gotta. I've gotta proposal. I've got. I've got something that I'd like to pitch to you that maybe Texas A M in these first two games has been wanting to, wanting to build that chemistry because Mario Craver, Mario Craver was at Mississippi State last year. Short little boy who can scoot, you know, not that big. Casey Concepcion, big time weapon. Right. So they've been moving him all around too. It is not a straight line, you know, big, big bodied receiver. It is, it is versatile weapons. And I wonder if, because of course Casey was at NC State just because they're new. I think that there might have been instead of leaning heavy on Le'Veon Moss and Reuben Owens in the run game, I wonder if some of the goals for this offense was to make sure that we really start to build chemistry, find out what works. Because the other piece of having weapons and versatile pieces, sometimes you don't have that like bread and butter. You don't know. Like it's like, wow, these guys are really talented. What is the play like? What are the routes? What are the concepts that work the best for these players and our quarterback. That's a theory, just something to propose at least to explain why Texas A and M has been sort of playing the way that they have.

[Bud Elliott]

If you're the Irish, do you just turn around and hand the ball off?

[Chip Patterson]

Yes, that's what I, I think even.

[Bud Elliott]

If the look doesn't dictate that it's a great run look, you're like, hey man, like you are so much better than anyone else on our offense. We trust you to run and be good against somewhat like obviously not terrible looks, but against unfavorable looks. I think I'd rather have Jeremiah Love against an unfavorable look than this Irish passing game against good looks. Also, I think Carr is going to have a lot more time in this game. Is good. We heard about this at the symposium. They were way better than I thought. Like they kicked Notre Dame's ass up front on both sides and like that's. I know Notre Dame's not as good this year up front, but. And Miami's pretty damn good. I don't think you've seen anything from the Aggie so far that says that they can do that to the Irish. So I do think CAR is going to have a lot more time to operate.

[Tom Fernelli]

I do. That's why I kind of think that A M might blitz more than we've seen because they haven't felt the need to have to blitz against UTSA and Utah State. Whereas maybe to generate pressure on Notre Dame, they're gonna have to do it. But going back to Notre Dame's defense, I do wonder if you'll see more of the zone this week because of the matchup. Like Marcel Reed has not really been used as a runner much so far in these first two games. If you're playing a lot of man and you're not getting pressure and you're covering guys, that's going to give Marcel Reed a lot of room to operate and just kind of take off for yards and keep drives going, which will be a pain in the ass, which will wear on your defense. So at least if you're in zone, you could possibly take some of that away. And on the flip side, if you look at A M's offensive performance on a whole so far, it is very explosive. It is not what I would call down to now and exceptional. Like they have gone three and out on a third of their possession. Like they, they, they, they aren't playing great down to down football. They've only reached the red zone 22.2% of the time on the red zone. And their possessions, which ranks 105th and for fun, they've scored 11 touchdowns. You know what the average distance of the 11 touchdowns is? 21 yards.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, 21 yards.

[Tom Fernelli]

21 yards. So it's like they're scoring on big plays. And it's like if you're Notre Dame and you drop back into zone more and you kind of hem Marcel Reed in and you take away the big plays, can this Aggies offense do against you what it really hasn't shown an ability to do against UTSA and Utah State yet?

[Chip Patterson]

Notre Dame's got athletic linebackers too. I mean, I would not have them turning their backs to Marcel Reed as opposed to trying to take away his ability to scramble and make you pay on, on those extend the drive type downs.

[Bud Elliott]

I, I would agree it's special teal season in Indiana right now for duck hunting and good play callers. Find the duck. Right? We, we saw Bill o' Brien do this. They were hunting number five all day in coverage for Michigan State. Miami figured out that Notre Dame's nickel can't cover anything. And they went at that guy, whoever. I don't know his name. They went at him repeatedly. I am curious because I do think I'm interested in how A M decides to formation these guys because, like, Mario Cravers. 5, 9, 165. Yeah, if you're playing, man, I want Craver on that Notre Dame slot all day. I think he will eat him alive just like Malachi Tony did. So I think that probably indicates a little more zone, man.

[Chip Patterson]

Fun game. Yeah, really, really fun game. Narrative bowl. Let's go, Vibes. That's. That's a. That's enough tape talk for. For everybody vibes here. What happens for Notre dame if they're 02? Are they out of the College Football Playoff? Yes.

[Tom Fernelli]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

I think the rest of their schedule's falling apart, other than USC.

[Tom Fernelli]

But if Notre Dame goes 10 2, do you really think they're gonna get left out of the College Football Playoff?

[Bud Elliott]

I do. For who? A fourth SEC team, a fourth Big Ten team, or a second ACC team? If it's Florida State, Miami or. You also, you gotta acknowledge the bottom of the Big 12 really sucks. There's a real chance you could get like 120 against 11 and one big 12. And obviously, if the 111 beats 12 0, they're not going to, like, you know, leave out a 12 and one Big 12 team. But I think this. I think this is an elimination game. Look who else is on this schedule.

[Tom Fernelli]

I. Yeah, but you're saying, like, you think USC is really good. You said on the show yesterday you think they're the fourth best team in the Big Ten. So Notre Dame beats them. They beat Boise State, who looks like a team that's going to finish 10 and two if they lose to Notre Dame.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't think Boise State is going to be a good win on a resume because of the fact that USC.

[Tom Fernelli]

Dumped or they'll be ranked by the College Football Playoff. So you're going to have those two ranked wins if they're as good as you. If you. As USC thinks it is. And Boise State likely finishes 10 and 2.

[Bud Elliott]

Boise ranked.

[Tom Fernelli]

They're going to be 10 and 2.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't think the committee is under any pressure to rank a team from the G5 unless it does so to justify its placement of another G5 team.

[Tom Fernelli]

You know, they might. They might be the best G5 team. I know they lost USF, but it's not like USF is going to finish 11 and 1 guaranteed. They could lose to Miami this week and they could lose another couple of games.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, but I don't think that they're going to let him climb out of getting. Getting smacked by USF with how bad the Mountain west has been.

[Tom Fernelli]

But if they're 10 and 2 and they've won the Mountain west, like, are we guaranteed that the American Conference champion is going to be ranked higher than them?

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Tom Fernelli]

Really?

[Bud Elliott]

Yes. Okay. As long as the American Conference champion is three losses or less. Now if it's like some weird wonky, like 8 and 4 versus 10 and 2, I would. Yeah, but I, I would take American Conference champ minus one loss column over Mountain west champ for the playoff.

[Chip Patterson]

If Notre Dame.

[Bud Elliott]

Because you get Memphis and you get Tulane as well in that league.

[Chip Patterson]

If Notre Dame starts 02, it is. I think Joe said in the tailgate earlier, they just, they don't control it anymore. No, like this just at that point, I do not think that you are a lock that is out. I'm not ready to go that far because we could have a chaos season if the great flattening in college football continues. Yeah, we might have the kind of chaos season where 10 and 2 is one of the best records in the country. So I, I'm not ready to rule them out. But they just don't control anything. They would need to win 10 games in a row and get help in the way of chaos if they're going to be able to do it. Because I agree with your, I agree with your premise. But I do not think that a 10 and 2 schedule against a 10 and 2 record against this schedule is going to be like, man, that is one of the best resumes in the country. But 10 and 2 with a good USC and some chaos elsewhere. Yeah, then that might be it. Ultimately, these things do not happen in a vacuum. They're all dependent on what's going on around you.

[Bud Elliott]

I think one of the issues here is, you know, if we pull the schedule back up for the Irish, we.

[Tom Fernelli]

Gotta wait for the AD to finish.

[Bud Elliott]

Who's the second best win? The second best, like an 8 and 475 pit team. I mean, Boston College is not projected to make a bowl. Syracuse is not projected to make a bowl. Right. NC State is not projected to make a bowl. Although. Oh, no, no.

[Tom Fernelli]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chip Patterson]

You're talking about Diamond Dave. Have you seen Diamond Dave? Unleash C.J. bailey. I mean, the wolf pack might be 3. 0 by Friday morning. Okay, that's halfway to bowl eligibility before September 13th.

[Tom Fernelli]

I think a 10 and 2 Notre Dame gets it. The only thing is, if they lose this game, they have absolutely no margin of error left.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's. I mean, that's. And ultimately also, are they gonna win 10? Are we just gonna say if they. They're like, oh, yeah, the team that started 0 and 2, they're definitely just going to win 10 games in a row where not eight of them are against power conference opponents, four of them are on the road. And the non power conference opponents that you're playing, Boise State, Navy, are both conference title contenders. So that's. There's the other issue too, of like, okay, you got to go win those 10 games in a row to be able to do it. And if you start 0 and 2, then it might, just might not be in the cards. But I do think it's a huge game.

[Tom Fernelli]

Do I think they can finish 10 and 2 if they lose this week? No. But if they do, they're in.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

And then Texas A M just has so many massive games coming up that I don't think that. I think Texas A M can lose this game and still work its way back to an at large bid to the College Football Playoff resume wise. Now, whether they've got the. The dudes to go do it would be in question depending on how the game goes.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, they. Yeah, this is definitely not an elimination game for a.

[Chip Patterson]

Correct.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Some of the teams on the A and M schedule look a lot better than they did preseason. Lsu, probably Auburn if you want to classify that. Missouri for sure. You know, and, and some of them look worse. Like South Carolina looks way worse than I think a lot of their fans thought they were going to look. And Texas, you know, looks somewhat worse because Arch is just not lighting it on fire.

[Chip Patterson]

Yep. All right, let's go. Let's turn our attention to Georgia and the Dogs. Trip Tennessee. Kirby Smart won eight in a row against the Vols. Some of them haven't even been that close. Now, they might have been close for a little bit, but the final margins, well, they, they do suggest an upper hand in this series. Now locks again coming on Thursday, but boy, this point spread has been dropping. And maybe with good reason, but I went back to get more eyes on the Austin P game. I know this, I know this might surprise you. Wasn't on a main screen of mine on Saturday, but given some of your commentary, I wanted to go back and you know, it's, it's the, the, the passing is kind of like the Cha cha slide, slide to the left, slide to the right. Not, not a lot of vertical, you know, not a lot of down.

[Bud Elliott]

Crisscross.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, maybe a little crisscross, but not beyond 10 yards. Yeah, I just, I'm, I, I hear you. I see, I see you with. In terms of maybe having some alarm bells going off now again, maybe because you're playing against Marshall, because you're playing against Austin P. Because you do have a few players that are getting a little nicked on that offensive line. I know some bodies have been moving in and out and we're continuing to monitor the status of some players going into this game. But at the same time, as you mentioned, there's, there's, there's some corners that, for Tennessee that are expected to miss this game as well. Zachariah Branch looks like a boatload of fun. Colby Young, like you might only throw it three yards past the line of scrimmage, but those guys with blockers in front of them can turn it into a 15, 16 yard gain, especially if you're going up against some backup corners. So. But I'll let you get first word here. How are we digging into this, this big SEC battle?

[Bud Elliott]

So we know that internally Georgia felt they massively upgraded their receiver room. They thought they had one of the best ones in the sec. I don't disagree. I think they took some guys in the portal who are pretty proven weapons. Whether they can use them effectively is I think somewhat still tbd. You know, we heard the narrative all off season that the quarterback drives a truck and, and fits the locker room better and all that kind of stuff, but he's not better at football than Carson Beck. So like, you know, that's all really cool Sunday to Friday, but, but on Saturdays, so far he hasn't looked better than Beck and it really hasn't been all that close, I don't think. I'm not saying he sucks. I just, I don't think he right now is like a top half quarterback in the league. And that's a little weird to have the SEC favorite not to have, you know, a guy like that. Offensive line for Georgia is a total mystery to me. I, I definitely think that there's a narrative out there that, that kind of. Kirby hired a bunch of these like, not, not retreads but like guys who used to be around the program and he brought them back and you know.

[Chip Patterson]

Guys, guys who like take a lot of the blame for the inability to break all the way through under the Mark Richter, a bunch of 10 and two good teams that can't win the big one like that. That, that is a frustrated George Georgia.

[Bud Elliott]

Fan sentiment, undoubtedly, and I don't think that's necessarily wrong. Georgia's offensive line does not look like a bunch of killers like it used to, but they've also had a good bit of injuries so far this year, much like they did last year. I don't know who's going to run out there for them this week, and that's going to matter. Tennessee's defensive line is still really, really good. And then on the flip side, I Aguilar was one of the most like, whoopsie daisy guys in the entire country over the last couple years, and I don't think Syracuse is any good at all. And obviously they played, you know, the FCS team last week. So I the best thing I say about him is that he is not taking ridiculous chances and he is hitting the open guys. Not a lot of pressure around him so far. So what we don't know is, was all that bad App State stuff, all the stuff that made him like go to ucla, right? Not a better school until Tennessee was in desperation mode. Is that gone or can Kirby Smart bring that back out of him? Because defensively, I think Georgia is really, really damn good, man. And I'm curious to see how Aguilar looks with pressure around him and with guys not running wide open.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah, there's, there's a lot of spiking the football Jon Joey Aguilar versus Nico so far. Oh, and yeah, I, I get it because of the circumstances of the breakup and Aguilar has looked good. But yeah, I would wait until we play a real team before I just start proclaiming that we won that battle. Because I, I saw the stat floated on Twitter yesterday about how Aguilar is getting the ball out in 2.57 seconds, whereas Nico was at 2.99. And it's like, it's, they're saying that it's like Joey's seeing it, whereas Nico just couldn't. What that stat ignores is that the average air yards per throw last year with Nico were 10.7 compared to 8.8 with Aguilar. They're throwing shorter passes. If you look at the heat map from last year with Nico is a lot more vertical shots. You look at it with Aguilar, there's a lot more side to side with some vertical shots mixed in. So it's the way that they're playing. It's not just the, you know, Aguilar's just a much better player. So we will see against this Georgia defense. This will be far and away the toughest test that this offense has had to face. And defensively, you know, we talked about they're going to be without their corners. They might be without a couple defensive tackles in this game, too. There's a couple guys listed as questionable in the injury report. I think they're expected to play, but we don't know for sure. That could have a factor. As for the Georgia offense, Chip, you mentioned it. I've got some stats to back you up. The cha. Cha slide offense. I just mentioned air yards for Tennessee. Gunner is averaging 4.6 air yards per attempt. Now, for Gunner Context, that ranks 126th out of 130 qualified quarterbacks. This is side to side to side.

[Chip Patterson]

But.

[Tom Fernelli]

But we have seen this from Georgia before. We have seen when they play Austin P. And they play Marshall. They aren't really doing anything. They're just like, we're here. We're contractually obligated to play this game. We have to play a minimum of 12 games. We can only play eight conference games. So we're going to do this. We're going to get on with the rest of our lives. When it's done. Will the game plan change? I'm not predicting it because like you guys, I have some questions about Gunner, Stockton and his ability. But I also think that what Stockton brings that Carson Beck did not is a mobility. Whereas when Georgia ran RPO with Carson Beck, Carson Beck wasn't keeping that ball or going anywhere Gunner might. Gunner has shown already through two games. He will keep and he will take off and he will run. He's not the most explosive runner, but he can get you five, six yards.

[Chip Patterson]

But he's a hard runner. That boy runs hard.

[Tom Fernelli]

He can keep you on schedule. He can get your success rate going, put you in second and four, put you in third and three. So I think we'll probably see a lot of that. But I also think we're going to see Georgia lean more on the run game, especially if those defensive tackles are out or they appear to be less than 100% and Georgia's offensive line is able to wear on them because you're not going to want to put too much onus on Gunner on the road in this spot just because the corners are hurt. So we'll see. And then I also think, like you said, Bud, I think Georgia's defense is still very good. I know they haven't played anybody, but just watching them, it's like, all right, yeah, they're they're going at seemingly 60, and they are completely smothering everybody that's on the field with them right now. So we'll see. I I this is going to be a very important game, I think, for both these teams.

[Bud Elliott]

Duh.

[Tom Fernelli]

It's a conference game, it's two playoff contenders. So we're going to find out a whole hell of a lot about both of these teams on Saturday.

[Bud Elliott]

I I think George's ability to play, man, is something that nobody that Tennessee has played so far can show, especially like, their backers can really run. They close space, they cause problems. I One thing to watch here is that Tennessee seems to be running a different offense this year a little bit. Last year, they started incorporating more tight ends. You first saw it against NC State. They did it a little bit more throughout the season. This year, they are more varied in terms of their receiver splits. It used to be just like the, you know, spitting on the sidelines type stuff as they would teach it to really maximize your width. And they still do that some, but they have taken and they're, they're showing a lot more different stuff. Maybe that's to make Georgia, you know, prep a little bit more, but they seem to have changed things up here. And I'm curious to see, like, does Georgia's dominance over this offense under Josh Hypo does, because they have whipped them, like, every year they've played, does that continue if Tennessee isn't running basically the same offense?

[Tom Fernelli]

Like, your input here, because you just said something about their linebackers, and this is a thought I feel like I've been kind of ruminating on. Is this Georgia's best linebacking unit since, like, 21, when they had Dean Walker and Tyndall?

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, they just look so much faster than they are.

[Bud Elliott]

It's only been four years, but, like.

[Tom Fernelli]

But the last few years, they just haven't looked at that position the same as they had in previous seasons. And I just feel like they're getting back to that.

[Bud Elliott]

Like, C.J. allen's a freak. Obviously, they have Raylan, who's, who's really good. They have a bunch of guys on this defense who can really run.

[Chip Patterson]

You're playing on the road. The last thing you want to do is give the home team a chance. You want Nate Frazier to hold on to that dagum football.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, my God.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's. I'm not trying to speak anything, not trying to speak anything negative into existence for our dogs out there, but, yeah, that's, I mean, that was a Little bit of a thing last year. Right. And then.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, carried it. Was the most talented back. Clearly. He just, like, couldn't keep the ball in his hands.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. So that. It's a. It's a deep running back room. They do run like three, four, five deep. But Nate, Nate should be running. Should be running first. And I feel like he gets pulled and has to spend some time on the sidelines because he can't hold on to that football. That was something else that happened in that. I think it was the first possession, like very, very first possession of Austin P game. So. Yeah, they had two lost fumbles against Austin against the Governors. Two lost fumbles. Gonna be no bueno if you're doing it against Tennessee in a big game like this. Anything else before we hit a break and keep it rolling with. With our attention elsewhere?

[Tom Fernelli]

Very big test for the Tennessee offensive line. Yes. I just. It's. They're not everything, but if you just go, they can provide. If you go look at the PFF grades of Tennessee's offense, you got to go down the list quite a bit before you find an offensive lineman.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

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Get tickets now back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Turning our attention. Death Valley Tiger Stadium. LSU welcoming in a rival in the Florida Gators. Put succinctly. I thought that LSU probably has some questions to answer in terms of being truly one of the best teams in the country. Florida's talented enough that they could answer those questions with their performance. And also LSU could bury the Billy Napier area era here. Tom, in terms of the matchup itself, we can get to narratives in a little bit. What's going to be really important? What should people keeping their eyes on?

[Tom Fernelli]

I I picked LSU as my team to win the national title with a thousand percent conviction. Just no doubt in my mind about it. I wasn't just kind of taking a shot there by any chance. I am very worried about the offensive line. Like it was one thing against Clemson. Went and watched the Tech tape. They weren't as bad as they were against Clemson but they're still. There's still iron, you know, works to be kinked out and you look at the offense as a whole like they had the 1.55 points for drive versus Clemson went all the way up to 2.09 versus Louisiana Tech. They are 101st overall in points per drive so far this season. They are 107th in negative play rate. They are losing yards on so many snaps. And it wasn't just the Clemson game. They're 97th and turnover rate. They're 96th and explosive rate.

[Bud Elliott]

They're just.

[Tom Fernelli]

You haven't really seen a whole hell of a lot from this offense through two games and I was really hoping that against Louisiana Tech. Now granted some of it was probably the play calling just being conservative but still the execution was not great to me. Will that show up in a much another big game for them than what they faced last week? I don't know. But the one thing that I do feel like is going in their favor for this offensive line is Florida, despite playing one game against the Sharks of Long Island University, ranks 111th nationally in pressure rate on defense. They are not getting after quarterbacks. So if this is like a. This is like a movable object versus a statue right now based on how we've seen them play. Can the statue of Florida's defensive line move the movable object of LSU's offensive line? We'll find out. That is going to be a key to me in this matchup.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm going to pick right up where Tom left off there. If you sort by the guys who have played 100 snaps for LSU's offense, there's one guy in green 75. That'd be Garrett Nussmeier. Who? Yeah, your offensive lineman. 61, 47, 66. There we go, 56, 58 and then the tight end Bauer Sharp 41. So they are undefeated. They are the SEC co favorite despite largely getting their ass kicked up front and we will see if that can continue To Tom's point, just put a little more math behind that. I was a little bit concerned about Fortis pass rush coming into the year, Chip, as you said, like they kind of needed, there are some guys in this team I needed to take a big step up if they were going to pay off in a big way.

[Chip Patterson]

Banks hasn't played yet, right?

[Bud Elliott]

That. Yes, exactly. So I think there's some chance Banks plays this week. We know obviously lsu, the guy with Braylon is out for this game. Chester. I went and watched the backup snaps there. Chester did. Whoever that Law Tech defensive tackle is, he walked him back a couple times like pretty good. So, you know, if Banks is in and Banks is healthy, he could cause some real problems. I, I've never been like a, a SAP as a first round type pick type guy, at least in my state. I, I think that, you know, Bane for Miami is way better of a pass rusher than SAP is. But I think Banks is pretty damn good dude and there's some chance that he could really impact this game. Ford has got some decent speed on the back end and yeah, I'm curious to see the chat saying Braylen Moore is listed as probable. I, I read that he had tightrope surgery. Is that not correct?

[Tom Fernelli]

I don't know.

[Bud Elliott]

Let's see here.

[Tom Fernelli]

He's. He Willinski. Because if he's not, then it's always tough to come back from tightrope.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I mean I'll, I'll. We'll, we'll check that. That's, that's what I had read. Apologies if he's in. That's obviously quite the help there. Yeah, I, I do think that LSU is going to struggle to block Florida at least in, in the run game. They're probably going to throw it a whole lot. Last year Florida got after him. They were able to fuse Nussmeyer. LSU offensive line was pretty banged up in that one. On the other side, man, it's pretty clear Florida whiffed on sturd event. The receiver that they took out of the portal. Like he, he's never been like good. He's just always been theoretical. Like there's some chance he's good and this is the final stop. Now as a redshirt senior, he's just, he's not a good player. Yeah, but they had had success in prior years of taking guys like that and actually making them into good players. So I think there was some reason to believe they could do so again. They needed like a receiver who's not a gadget guy like you don't like.

[Tom Fernelli]

You don't like Eugene Wilson's 4.7 yards per catch?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, Eugene's like a, you know, slot bubble, screen gadget dude. Like when the ball's in his hands, it's great. But how do you get it to him? Vernell Brown's a freshman black way through an absolute dime to him there in the fourth quarter which, which puts that game away if he doesn't drop it down. Like credit USF for forcing a difficult throw. He made the difficult throw. The freshman just dropped it. I think he's a helpful player, but true freshman in Death Valley? I don't know, man. Can they get open at all?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, because LSU's defense, we came out of week one being like, oh my God, did you see what Blake Baker has done with this defense? Then like one more data point on Clemson and you're kind of like, okay, let's, let's, let's, let's take this same group on and let's see them face some other tests in some different situations as well. I'm not bagging on him because LSU defense was an absolute sieve there for a little bit. It's not this year. They've, they've hit on portal editions. They seem to be really locked in playing good assignment football. But I do think that it's maybe the week one performance was also some Clemson as well.

[Bud Elliott]

Also like if, if LSU is challenging Florida to make the big time throws, that's going to be interesting because Liveway actually has the arm to do that, whereas Kate does not. So like if they want to play high variance, high risk stuff with. And then Baker has amazing blitz packages, obviously we'll see like, like the, the downside of that variance could catch you as well. Yep.

[Chip Patterson]

Anything else here, but again our picks, if we've got any locks on this.

[Bud Elliott]

4 to 0 line is way better than Clemson's O line. They're going to need to play their ass off in this game if, if Florida can come out of there with a win, which I do think is possible.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting matchup because like we, the, the script is flipped on lsu. The offense is a question. The defense appears to be pretty dang good because they're 19th in pressure rate despite only being 97th in blitz rate. So if LSU can get pressure against a much better offensive line than what they faced so far this season without blitzing, that could be huge. But if they have to blitz more that, because you just mentioned, but that can open Lagway up to hit some big shots against them.

[Chip Patterson]

Still got a little bit of time left here to be able to tackle some of these other games on the radar. You know, either, you know, things you're watching. X factors General thoughts Let's begin with USF at Miami. I'll save say predictions for Thursday but we, we gonna call midnight on Cinderella.

[Tom Fernelli]

I don't want to rain on the.

[Chip Patterson]

Parade, but.

[Tom Fernelli]

What USF has done through two games just isn't sustainable. And I'm not just talking about against the opponents that they've played. Like no, of course they're not going to win every week against a ranked team. It's just offensively this team is reliant on big plays. It's like they are not a down to down team. And I mentioned earlier in the show when we were doing the, the A M A M Notre Dame big game breakdown. The average touchdown USF has scored this season has been 31.4 yards. All right, you're not going to hit that against Miami. Miami's going to be able with their pass rush and what they have defensively they are like we just talked about. Florida has really no pass rush to speak of. Maybe USF has an incredible offensive line and we will figure that out this week when they do it again. But like they are not going to be able to do what they were able to do against even against Florida. They won the game but it's not like the offense was outstanding. So I don't know man, I just, I think that we are. Yeah, it's going to be. If they do it again, kudos to them. I just don't see it coming.

[Bud Elliott]

What's the biggest difference you think between Florida and Miami?

[Tom Fernelli]

The pass rush.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, agreed. Pass rush and probably consistency from the QB position. I would think Miami did not have to blitz a lot in that game against the Irish. They got home with four. I think that's what they will do in this game. I think they'll make USF try to drive and be consistent which is not necessarily the strength of the Bulls. I think the Bulls are like super well constructed. The pieces fit together. Like really they make, it makes sense what they're doing. I think like having Todd Orlando there on defense who is not afraid to bring the pressure makes a lot of sense for an offense that wants to go tempo and get the ball back. But I, I do think Miami can block them and I think Miami can get home with four and play some coverage here. So also we had a listener send us this and I want to credit the Guy. But we'll do kind of a larger discussion of this on the Monday show. Brown is like one of the very top guys in the nation in terms of like, number of actual hits he's taking. You gotta kind of be smart about this, man. Like, I just, you know, in my opinion, if they win the American their lock. Maybe not everybody agrees, but I think you'd have a hard time saying they're not like a 90% chance to make it if they win the American, given what they've already done. You got to have Baron Brown or you got to have Iron Brown to do this. So how much do you really want to run him in this?

[Chip Patterson]

Missed the last eight games of last year with the leg injury. Taken a lot of hits already.

[Tom Fernelli]

What. What did I say last week? What did I say? Maybe you just take this one sit it out Load management special. If you're the Bulls. I know they won't, but I don't think it's a terrible idea.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I. There's no way, just given the mentality that goes preaches that they're going to start the. Start that way. But if I'm Alex and I see that. That we can't block them and they're getting home with four and he's getting crushed. We're calling some more handoffs, dude. We're not. Less RPO stuff a little more. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, you know what?

[Bud Elliott]

Let's just go down in the third.

[Chip Patterson]

But let's do some check with me's, you know?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Oh, it's a hand off again. What a surprise.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, let's. Let's do a lot of check with me.

[Bud Elliott]

Mario looks over, gives him the knowing nod. Yeah, I understand it.

[Chip Patterson]

Is this game Mario proof?

[Tom Fernelli]

No rage.

[Bud Elliott]

It's. It's in the Mac Brown Memorial. Well, he's not. He's living, but like, it's in that Mac Brown range, so. Yeah, no, no, no.

[Chip Patterson]

It is not the.

[Bud Elliott]

The.

[Chip Patterson]

I can separate. You know, we can compartmentalize. We can look at this game and break down all the analytics, but also say, truthfully, no, this game is not Mario proof number two. Oh, Tom, did you just star this?

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Byron Brown is the Cam Newton of Tommy Castellanus's. That's very good stuff. Also, I saw Corey, our friend in the tailgate, who's. I saw him mention that one of the best things to happen for Miami is that USF is ranked. It would be the unranked usf. That would be far more dangerous.

[Bud Elliott]

So that's also fair.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. If you're Going to be in that like Georgia Tech.

[Tom Fernelli]

AP rankings don't matter.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, exactly. All right, Clemson at Georgia Tech. Clemp Sin what do we get from the Tigers?

[Tom Fernelli]

Can you run the damn ball? Like you've been awful at it through two games. I was willing to give you some benefit of the doubt against lsu, but then you couldn't run the ball last week against Troy and now you're facing a Georgia Tech defense that has been okay against the run, but it hasn't been great. So it's like if you can't figure that out, what the hell can we realistically expect Clemson to accomplish this year?

[Bud Elliott]

Look, you know, to protect, come out and play hard. Red KIA like has them playing physical football. I am a little concerned about their defense, man. Like that Colorado offense is awful and they, they yeah like on the opening drive and sometimes in the second half they, that when it mattered, they, they did. I'm a little concerned about, about that. I, I think Clemson can score on them if the offensive line kind of gets it together. Like they've made a lot of mental errors. It hasn't all just been getting your butts whipped. So we'll have to see if they can actually kind of play, you know, play as one. Haynes King healthy here. We talked about it to start the show.

[Chip Patterson]

I I looks good, feels good.

[Bud Elliott]

We'll pass her. So like I do need him to be close to 100 and run the ball like 15 plus times.

[Chip Patterson]

Did you see what Aaron Philo did?

[Bud Elliott]

I think Aaron's good.

[Chip Patterson]

373 yards.

[Bud Elliott]

Than like a 70. Haynes King.

[Chip Patterson]

Well yeah Brent. Brent Key has been extremely, I would say muted. Not lack of words but a moat for somebody who I know can emote at a high level. All his press conference this week was very toned down. Hey coach, any update on on Haynes? He's like looks good, feels good to make a determination on Saturday and you know, like, like what do you see against Clemson? It's a very good team. We're gonna have to play good to beat him. And like it is, he is either laser focused sick or something else is going on. I mean like it is, it's a, it's an odd, odd vibe right now at least around media availability.

[Tom Fernelli]

Jeff in the chat asks imagine if Haynes King was the Clemson quarterback. Jeff Haynes King is the Clemson quarterback.

[Bud Elliott]

For the top five defensive backs for Georgia Tech. Pff. Grade of sub 65.

[Tom Fernelli]

Not great against.

[Bud Elliott]

Not good passing offenses so far. By the way this could be a get right game for Kate club.

[Chip Patterson]

As I yeah we'll we'll see. I'll. I'll uncork that tomorrow. Vandy. South Carolina. South Carolina fans not loving the way that this, the way that this offense is looking through two games. I mean, Lenora Sellers gives you some highlights, but I mean, it's a. If. If it ain't a huge touchdown pass to Nick harbor or, you know, a few like, really athletic plays, it does not seem to be hitting in the same way with Mike Shula now as the offensive coordinator. Vanderbilt, they. They are ready to fight. They are. What. What's our boys say? White collar school, blue collar mentality.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

That's a man who still mows his own lawn. Let's go. I. The doors are going to show up ready for war. Is South Carolina ready for it?

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, look, they're both pretty decent teams. Yeah. You know, like, I think Vandy's very good along lines of scrimmage compared to what Vandy usually is. Pavia has made some big, big, big throws. I also thought he's like, maybe he's like, oh, I'm a good thrower now. I'm going to trust my arm a ton. I was like, dude, this is like, I don't know, but Brett Favre level of just like the yolo ball here. But South Carolina does have like some very athletic linebackers still. What's. What. I don't think his name is. It's number zero, Fred Johnson. He can really run like he. He ran. He ran down a bunch of plays against the Hokies. I think he is someone who is going to be pivotal in. In kind of keeping Pavia corralled here. Honestly, is Pavia the better thrower in this game? Because I think he is. Based on how they're throwing the ball so far this year, Sellers does not look good passing the ball. He's a great runner. I know, but he has not improved as a passer from where he was last year.

[Tom Fernelli]

I don't know who's better, but the fact that I don't know, I think is the same thing you're saying.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I. You know, you're seeing a lot of these draft analysts. They're. They're putting out some of these tapes. Like, actually, I kind of got to back off the Sellers top five pick type type thing, at least for this year because we're not seeing progress as a processor getting the ball out on time. But his legs are super dangerous, man. Like, really dangerous. And if you watch Vatek, I'm not trying to discredit for what Vandy did, but Vatek was missing offensive lineman 6 and 7. Who are your primary? Top two backups. And then they had two offensive linemen go down there at the end of the first half. So they end up kind of playing like numbers 8 and 9. And Van D ate those guys alive. I don't think South Carolina's offensive line is anything special by SEC standards, but they're certainly better than running out the number eight and nine guys on the Hokies.

[Chip Patterson]

Virginia Tech.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

So that's gonna be interesting to see. Like, just how much improved is this Vanderbilt D line? I'm talking too much today. I apologize.

[Tom Fernelli]

I also, I mean, you mentioned Sellers is great with his legs. He's had to be because South Carolina hasn't been able to run the ball really at all through their two games. And with the backs. Yeah, with the backs. Like, Sellers is tied for the lead on the team with carries. But like Faison and Attaway, they've had a couple of explosive runs that are really kind of skewing their overall numbers. But from down to down, they are 111th in EPA per rush and 105th in success rate. Like, they've been overly reliant on Sellers as a rusher. And I feel like in this game, if they're going to beat Vandy, they either need their running backs to step up or they need Sellers to just put on the superman cape and get to work.

[Bud Elliott]

If you go back to the one game that they played against real athletes, the Hokies, when Tech was able to kind of bait them into hand to get off, Tech ate that stuff up. The thing is, like, Sellers would pull it sometimes, even when it wasn't a great look, and he would still make something happen. Like he's that good of an athlete. The guy is. Is if not the best runner in college football, He. He's very much up there.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Common opponent here, Both these teams have played Virginia Tech. As you mentioned, the very disjointed game for Vanderbilt, down 20 to 10 at halftime, absolutely put them in a locker for the entire second half. Certainly the. The offensive line issues were a part of that. But I also think that Vanderbilt outplayed Virginia Tech on both sides of the ball, not just in that one area of the game, all throughout the second half. Second straight road game. And not only second straight road game. Second straight road game at night in a somewhat hostile environment. You know, Lane Stadium now down in Columbia. So it's a.

[Tom Fernelli]

This is a little insulted that you called it somewhat hostile environment. I would say both those environments are pretty hostile.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, you want to know why? Because as soon as I was mentioning that I was remembering that the stands were empty at the end of the game in Blacksburg.

[Tom Fernelli]

Ah, okay.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, the second half runaway had made it such that they will not be.

[Tom Fernelli]

A Williams Bryce son.

[Bud Elliott]

I think Kilgore and Collier are out. By the way, those are two of your better defensive backs on South Carolina. Tennessee is not the only team really kind of, you know, down man there. Now granted Vanderbilt doesn't throw the ball that much but I am curious to see how well do the South Carolina backups tackle because if I'm vandy I'm running a lot of option to the outside and I'm getting those backers blocked and I'm making those corners tackle me which is always the goal anyway. You want to make corners tackle in football but how do those backup corners tackle.

[Chip Patterson]

Arkansas at Ole Miss could be.

[Tom Fernelli]

A very, very fun football.

[Chip Patterson]

Saturday.

[Bud Elliott]

Why? Where's Ole Miss better in Arkansas.

[Tom Fernelli]

Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. That's Arkansas resume win that you're discounting for Notre Dame right there. If the Irish beat him now, Arkansas.

[Chip Patterson]

Is great, all right, but it could.

[Bud Elliott]

Be a bowl team. Notre Dame might have two wins over both teams if it loses weekend.

[Chip Patterson]

I think maybe three. I think Ole Miss is better at wide receiver if Taylor Green was the quarterback.

[Tom Fernelli]

All right, said it earlier with Joey Aguilar. Taylor Green has been phenomenal games. Outside of two interceptions, it's been Arkansas State and who I can't remember their first game. Let's maybe pump the brakes a little bit on Taylor. I think he is exceptional when he makes plays. I think he's also got a lot of whoopsie daisy to him and we'll see if the Ole Miss defense could bring out some whoopsie daisy. I'm not convinced Ole Miss defense can because like their numbers are good but they also played Kentucky so I'm not really going to give them that much credit.

[Bud Elliott]

My answer was going to be defense. I think Ole Miss's defense is a way. I don't think Arkansas's demons worth a damn, but I think they could score on Ole Miss. Kentucky moved it a little bit better than I thought they would and I don't. I'm not crediting Kentucky for that. I think that's largely on on Ole.

[Chip Patterson]

Miss made a lot of mistakes in that game. A lot of stupid penalties.

[Bud Elliott]

Is Simmons healthy? Because guys, he was carried off the field.

[Chip Patterson]

He got two ankles taped in like the first quarter of that game.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah, Lane having to worry about that hook.

[Bud Elliott]

Have they released the injury report on this yet?

[Chip Patterson]

I thought Thursday is when we get all of our official injury reports.

[Bud Elliott]

Do we have a guess for what, for what status they're going to put on him? You know, questionable.

[Tom Fernelli]

I would assume questionable at minimum.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, unless he's out.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Lane's behavior with an injury report, also not.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Remember, they had the faking injuries, and then they came back on the injury report with 24 guys on the injured list. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I love that. I did try to schedule an appointment with the dentist this last night and this morning. He said. Sorry.

[Chip Patterson]

He said, you tried to schedule a real appointment?

[Bud Elliott]

I said, no.

[Tom Fernelli]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

I said, hey, is Simmons out? He said, unclear right now. I doubt we will actually know until kick. Lane's not talking.

[Tom Fernelli]

Which is so like him.

[Bud Elliott]

If he's out, Arkansas should be favored.

[Tom Fernelli]

Oh, yeah. I would. I would agree. Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Pit at West Virginia. Backyard brawl. I'm watching for the fun. I don't. I still. Obviously, West Virginia. Oh. I mean, we warned you. We told you, like, programs that compete for championships in your conference, go into Athens. Not that Athens. That Athens, and they come out with scars. We told you it could happen. Pitt, on the other hand, I. I think a worthy favorite, though not trustworthy, if that makes sense.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

What's our expectation here?

[Bud Elliott]

I just feel so bad for the Mountaineers, man. Like, you're. Jaheim White and Bray are both done. Also, think about what position Pitt is still kind of classically pit on the defense. Linebacker. Pit. Doesn't have a whole lot of preseason, like all America preseason. All these SEA guys.

[Chip Patterson]

Defensively, Kyle Lewis is. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

But their linebackers are. They can really run. I. I don't think that's a good matchup. Holstein's not been playing very well this year. It's basically a continuation of how he played down the stretch after an incredible start last year. So if he screws around and makes a bunch of errors and Zach Alley's the coordinator there at Western is able to pressure him, maybe. But, yeah, I'm. I'm skeptical. Yeah.

[Tom Fernelli]

No real thoughts here. I mean, West Virginia losing on the road to Ohio and then suffering those injuries is just kind of a real buzzkill for me.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm. I don't. It brings me no joy when. My mental view of a conference when I'm able to just throw some teams in the basement before the end of September, you know, not to say that they won't rise up and get somebody because it's the Big 12 and it's rich Rod and there's still enough talented players that they could rise up and get somebody. But a team that I already did not think had a, a talent level that was on par with the the top third of the conference now all of a sudden starts taking key injuries. No bueno. Tough, tough year one for, for Rich Rod back in Morgantown. But who knows? Maybe we will be lighting some couches on fire on Saturday.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm excited for Kansas State Arizona on Friday night.

[Tom Fernelli]

Yeah, Friday's got some bangers.

[Bud Elliott]

I also think like the ACC kind of needs NC State to be wake.

[Chip Patterson]

There is no question, Bud. There are like yeah, we. That would be a horrendous, horrendous loss for the Wolf Pack.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Given their current state. But yes. And you're talking about excited about Thursday night, excited about Friday night. Do you know what I'm excited about, boys? I'm excited that Saturday it's once again big time at 3:30 Eastern when one of the most potent offenses in college football takes the field. USC going on the road against Purdue will get you set for kickoff beginning at 2:30 with State Farm College Football today the Big Ten is on CBS.

[Tom Fernelli]

And Paramount plus mentioned it on yesterday's show. USC really struggled when it went on the road last year. I want to see what they look like on the road this year.

[Bud Elliott]

Look, I know Purdue has played nobody but Ryan Brown is playing well at quarterback for them against nobody's which was not always the case for the quarterback position last year. So I do think they're upgraded there maybe back door. I don't know.

[Tom Fernelli]

They, they look so much more competent this year than they did last year.

[Bud Elliott]

He's a good coach also.

[Chip Patterson]

Jaden Maeva, Barry Odom breakup revenge game.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Huh.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, deep in the bag, Jenny. Like, like the, the crew should. Well, they probably already know but I.

[Chip Patterson]

Mean I'm just saying like if. If you want to know who intimately knows Jaden Maeva strengths and weaknesses, I bet you defensive maestro Barriotum does. So we'll be. Might be. I mean, listen, you talked about what? Us. I was yesterday on the the Big Ten show on CBS Sports Network. I mean maybe this is a USC fourth quarter. Maybe that's the only thing you can trust. Maybe you can't trust the back door because of the way the Trojans run it up. We'll see.

[Bud Elliott]

Second revenge game here this week.

[Chip Patterson]

By the way, what's our other one?

[Bud Elliott]

The first one takes place in New Orleans.

[Chip Patterson]

Darian Minsa against John Summerall.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, we'll get to.

[Chip Patterson]

We'll get to see if Duke team really, this Duke team really was the better team, right, Tom?

[Bud Elliott]

Right now I'm just open two and a half. I think it opened to lane like, like four somehow, which is wild.

[Chip Patterson]

But yeah, I mean, Tulane was in a dog fight with South Owl.

[Bud Elliott]

Got an interesting late night game we'll be watching on actually two, a couple.

[Chip Patterson]

Of big late nights.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I want to see Lonergan see it, see how he plays. Minnesota Cal is pretty interesting. Yep. Kendran Kiave Sagapuatelli Jaren JK I messed up the Jaren Jaron.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tom Fernelli]

You got all the saga but can't get the Jaron.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Ye Aaron Kiawe Saga Polotelli.

[Bud Elliott]

You sell the.

[Tom Fernelli]

You.

[Bud Elliott]

You say the W is a V. Kiawe in Kiawe Kiawe. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Jaren Kiave Saga Polytelli. Yeah.

[Tom Fernelli]

Jks. Jks.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

It should be a lot of fun. All right, Thursday, come on back. This right here spot YouTube.com cover3 or wherever you get your podcast to come get these locks. You, you bring likes, we give you locks and then the lines move. That's the way this thing goes. 11:00am Eastern time. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Fidelity. You can follow him@bud elliot3. You can follow me at Chip Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.

[Bud Elliott]

Thank you.

[Chip Patterson]

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