Cover 3 Podcast — Big Ten Show: Illinois-Indiana, Michigan-Nebraska & Iowa-Rutgers Previews
Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Danny Kanell
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive Big Ten preview focused on this weekend's key conference matchups: Michigan–Nebraska, Illinois–Indiana, and Iowa–Rutgers, plus a look at rivalry and other notable games across the league. The hosts discuss QB battles, coaching narratives, X-factors, and betting insights to prepare fans for the coming slate.
1. Main Theme Overview
This episode of the Cover 3 Podcast sets the stage for Week 4 in Big Ten football, spotlighting marquee games, unbeaten matchups, and the shifting narratives around key players and coaches across the league. The hosts break down Michigan’s trip to Nebraska, ranked-on-ranked Illinois at Indiana, and a Friday showdown between Iowa and Rutgers. There's also context on rivalry games featuring former Pac-12 teams and a sharp focus on which games matter most for the playoff and hot seat conversations.
2. Key Discussion Points & Insights
Michigan at Nebraska — The Main Event
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Dylan Raiola’s National Buzz?
- Early listener chat question: Has Nebraska QB Dylan Raiola been “overlooked” so far?
- Tom: “No.” (03:51) — Raiola isn’t forgotten, but Nebraska’s identity is trending more toward Coach Matt Rhule than Raiola unless Raiola has a breakout.
- Chip: If Raiola underwhelms but Nebraska wins, "Our main character... becomes less Mr. This Guy and a little bit more of Matt Rhule." (04:06)
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Nebraska Defense vs. Michigan Offense (Bryce Underwood at QB)
- Nebraska hasn't faced a test like Michigan; their stats (3rd nationally in missed tackle rate) may be opponent-inflated (07:02).
- Michigan’s passing attack is “not brimming with star power” — returner Samaj Morgan, Indiana transfer Donovan McCulley, and Channing Goodwin need to step up (09:08).
- “They don’t have great receivers and haven’t had them in the last couple years.” – Tom (08:40)
- Michigan’s road test at Oklahoma already gives them a battle-toughened edge (12:20).
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Trenches Battle & Scheme Matchups
- Michigan’s O-line and D-line “not as good as recent teams” (12:20, 12:50).
- Nebraska’s run game is effective down-to-down, but has been turnover-prone (13:53).
- Raiola is efficient, but struggles under blitz and pressure — expect Michigan to blitz heavily (15:53).
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Key X-Factors
- WR Nye House Hunter and the OL are critical for Nebraska (17:48).
- For Michigan, pass-catcher reliability and battle up front will decide outcomes.
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Wagering Perspective
- Tom: “Pretty difficult to want to take Michigan as a road favorite based on what you’ve seen.” (19:43)
Illinois at Indiana — Ranked-on-Ranked, Elimination Stakes
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Indiana’s Unknowns and National Skepticism
- Indiana is undefeated but untested; only Power 4 win would come against Illinois (23:50).
- Tom: “I think Indiana is good… but you’re never going to convince people... until you start winning games like this.” (24:55)
- Saghrin ratings reveal their weak non-conference strength of schedule (24:51).
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Illinois’ Experience, Adjustments, and Offense
- Illinois’ offense takes care of the football (no turnovers through three games), spreading touches to a deeper receiver corps this year (29:29).
- QB Luke Altmire is improving; passing attack more varied than last year (29:29).
- Run game is still inconsistent between the tackles; expect Illinois to be a pass-first team (29:29).
- Strong post-halftime adjustments and a versatile defense led by DC Aaron Henry (29:29).
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Indiana’s Ground Game and Offensive Potential
- Transfer RB trio ("The law offices of Black, BB and Hemby") could be key for Indiana (32:23).
- Illinois’ front better than last year, but have shown weakness against QB keepers/RPOs (33:36, 34:21).
- QB Mendoza’s athleticism may be an X-factor (34:21).
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Betting Lean
- Danny: “I like Illinois in the points... this game is a fourth quarter game that could come down to special teams and a field goal.” (35:14)
- Tom leans “over” — thinks both offenses will break through for big plays (35:39).
USC vs. Michigan State — Late Night, New Faces
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Aiden Chiles (MSU QB): Improved Decision-making, But...
- “Still holds onto the ball forever. He has been sacked eight times... his average time to get rid of the ball is 3.3 seconds, which is 135th of 136 QBs.” – Tom (39:34)
- USC’s defense has “legitimately looked pretty damn good... leads the country in sacks” (40:53, 41:26).
- Hosts expect Childs’ positives to regress against superior USC pressure.
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Jaden Maiava (USC QB): Appearing in Control
- Danny: “I love what I’m seeing from Jaden Maeva… think this is another game for USC that they’re going to be able to have their way.” (41:26)
- Expect a “long night” for Michigan State.
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Lincoln Riley Chat / Broyles Trophy Moment
- Danny flexes about a chat with Lincoln Riley: “I was like, hey, do you ever get a chance to watch the QBs you coached? He’s like ‘well, I have five of them in the NFL right now. Can’t watch them all.’” (42:40)
- Commentary on Riley displaying his Broyles Award most prominently in his office (43:00).
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Outcome Expectation
- Michigan State could be “blowout city … USC jumps into the top 15.” (44:23)
- Travel, talent gap, and USC home field cited as factors.
Rivalry Games: Washington–Washington State, Oregon–Oregon State, & Conference Uncertainty
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Wazzu & Oregon State’s Transitional Purgatory
- Both former Pac-12 teams are rudderless after last year’s league implosion; their rosters lack stability (48:02).
- “These are two more games where...I think these are going to be cakewalks for both schools [Washington and Oregon],” Tom (48:38).
- Brief debate on whether “rivalry magic” can override grim reality — not this year, consensus among hosts (48:53).
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Trent Bray Under Fire
- Oregon State’s coach faces tough press questions and tumult, indicative of instability (49:05).
Iowa vs. Rutgers — Friday Night Grindfest
- injury-ravaged Rutgers Still Finding Ways to Score
- Rutgers’ roster is “an absolute mash unit,” but offense keeps putting up points (51:12).
- Iowa’s defense is weaker than years past but still Rutgers’ toughest test so far (51:12).
- QB Mark Gronowski’s creative scrambling could be a wild card (52:41).
- Danny: “This game is going to be disgusting. I just... like the under. I don’t care, you couldn’t set it low enough.” (53:17)
Other Noteworthy Big Ten Storylines
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Maryland vs. Wisconsin — “Hot Seat Bowl”
- “Winner wins and loser faces some anger...” (56:04)
- Locksley and Fickell considered the hottest Big Ten coaching seats now that Deshaun’s gone (56:16).
- Both programs need a win to quell fan unrest, but this isn’t program-altering for either (56:08).
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Housekeeping: Notable Quotes about QBs
- Charting QBs’ “pocket time” led to humorous rankings and theories about 7-on-7 backgrounds (54:23–55:03).
- Noted that Nico, Drones, and Aiden Childs are among the nation’s slowest to release the ball (55:10).
3. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “No.” – Tom Fornelli, succinctly shutting down the “is Raiola forgotten?” argument (03:51)
- “If Dylan does not play well, but Nebraska wins, then...our main character...becomes less of Mr. This Guy and a little bit more of Matt Rhule.” – Chip Patterson (04:06)
- “I don’t think the offensive line is as good as the last few years. And I really don’t think the defensive line is as good...It’s going to be really interesting to see that battle.” – Tom (12:50)
- “Nebraska’s offensive line has been great...When they do give up pressure, it’s more on the QB than it has been the offensive line.” – Tom (13:53)
- “They just haven’t had [difference-makers at WR]. It’s been part of the offense, but it’s also been a talent thing.” – Tom (10:07)
- “I think Indiana is good...But you’re never going to convince people...until you start winning games like this.” – Tom (24:55)
- “I trust Illinois better because I've seen them do it... I don’t think either of these teams are really going to light up the scoreboard.” – Danny (27:30)
- “No.” – Danny Kanell, asked if there’s anything you can ‘grab onto’ for Indiana’s upside (28:33)
- “Pretty difficult to want to take Michigan as a road favorite based on what you’ve seen.” – Tom (19:43)
- “USC’s defense is better...They lead the country in sacks right now...I have serious concerns.” – Tom (40:53)
- “You go in, you handle your business, you get out.” – Danny, on USC’s approach in the delayed, ugly Purdue road game (45:43)
- “These are two more games where...I think these are going to be cakewalks for both schools.” – Tom, on the Apple Cup and Civil War (48:38)
- “‘Are you the right guy for the job?’...What do you want to say, ‘No?’” – Danny, mocking press conference tough questions (50:40)
- “This game is going to be disgusting. I just... like the under. I don’t care, you couldn’t set it low enough.” – Danny, Iowa–Rutgers (53:17)
4. Timestamps for Key Segments
| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 02:18 | Show intro & Big Ten preview agenda | | 03:51 | Dylan Raiola discussion | | 06:54 | Michigan offense vs. Nebraska defense | | 13:36 | Michigan defense vs. Nebraska offense | | 19:15 | Michigan–Nebraska betting perspective | | 21:05 | Illinois–Indiana preview intro | | 24:03 | Indiana’s schedule & skepticism | | 27:08 | Danny Kanell joins—Illinois–Indiana elimination talk| | 32:23 | Indiana RB trio discussion | | 35:14 | Betting leans on Illinois–Indiana | | 39:34 | Michigan State–USC breakdown | | 41:26 | Jaden Maiava, Lincoln Riley story | | 44:23 | Blowout expectations for MSU–USC | | 47:05 | Washington–Washington State & Oregon–OSU previews | | 51:12 | Iowa–Rutgers preview & Rutgers injury crisis | | 53:17 | Danny’s Iowa–Rutgers under pick | | 56:04 | Maryland–Wisconsin “Hot Seat Bowl” |
5. Tone and Language
The episode is conversational, analytical, and laced with humor and inside-jokes among seasoned college football minds. The hosts maintain a direct, occasionally irreverent tone, especially when poking fun at coaching narratives, media questions, and rivalry myths.
6. Summary Table: Game-by-Game Takeaways
| Game | Key Focus | Favorite | Hosts’ Lean | |------------------------------|------------------------------------------------|---------------|-------------------------------------------| | Michigan at Nebraska | QB battles, pressure, trenches | Michigan | Uncertainty about covering as favorites | | Illinois at Indiana | Unknowns, playoff stakes, run/pass balance | Indiana | Illinois + points; Over on total | | Iowa vs. Rutgers (Fri) | Injuries, low total, QB scramble yards | N/A | Heavy under; brutal grudge match | | USC vs. Michigan State | MSU QB issues, USC pass rush, blowout risk | USC | USC big — expect a rout | | Oregon–Oregon State | Former Pac-12 turmoil; rivalry faded | Oregon | Oregon easy, no “throw out records” here | | Washington–Washington State | “Apple Cup” drama; more of the same | Washington | Washington comfortably | | Maryland at Wisconsin | Coaching hot seats at stake | N/A | Don't lose if you want to keep your job |
For Fans Who Missed The Show
This episode delivers an in-depth, clear-eyed look at pivotal Big Ten contests: what’s changed, what’s stuck, and what’s at stake for playoff hopefuls, rising coaches, and borderline QBs. The hosts cut through the noise, challenge perception with stats, and have a little fun at the expense of tired rivalry myths and coachspeak. If you want smart, data-backed insights (and some memorable jokes) about this weekend’s college football slate, this episode is for you.
