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CFP Quarterfinals INSTANT REACTION: Ole Miss Upsets Georgia | Indiana & Oregon Dominate
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We.
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Are talking about at 11:47pm Eastern Time. What's happening down in New Orleans because the score at this moment with are we all final, final.
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Oh, it's final. Final, final. Throwing the ball all over the place on kick returns.
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Final score. Ole Miss 37, Georgia 34. There are more scores to talk about like Indiana, oh, 38 to 3, taking Alabama out to the woodshed. A shutout pitched by Oregon's defense, 23 to nothing. But there is no other place than to start with what we just saw. Lots to get to. Lots of different ways to peel this apart. How we got here, the different swings in the game. It, it is going to demand our attention because it was the most competitive game. But it also has given us guys, guys. It has given us a college football playoff semifinals with the following schools. Okay, Indiana, Oregon, okay, Ole Miss and Miami. Schools and programs that have been eliminated from this college football playoff include the likes of Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma. Guys, this is Ohio State. Oh, excuse me. And the reigning champion, Ohio State Buck has programs. This is the most new money college football playoff that we have seen. Like this is a college football playoff for the modern era. And it is, you know, lots of different ways to get there. We will be peeling this back obviously over the course of not just here tonight where we're going to go through the games, but discussing it on into the week. Leading into the semifinals. But you know, just to look at this bracket, if you're watching with us on YouTube.com cover three, to see the teams that were in this field that, to see the semifinals that we have, just, just kind of a remarkable sort of pinch yourself moment. So Ole Miss, led by Pete Golding, now has two College Football Playoff wins and that includes beating Georgia in the Sugar bowl quarterfinals. Tom, you and I like extensively multiple platforms. We have multi platform excellence. I, I will take my blame, my part of the blame for this multi platform wrongness here. I, I said on multiple platforms that of all the results from the quarterfinals, the only one that would shock me would be Ole Miss beating Georgia. That I saw, you know, like, yeah, sure, I might Miami could beat Ohio State. And yeah, the coin flip that the point spread told us of Oregon and Texas Tech and that, you know what, Alabama's got athletes and, and maybe maybe Indiana did have a bad week of practice like Kurt Signetti said, but this was the one that I did not believe and yet I saw it slipping away. I saw. At what point did you really start to come around on this one?
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The truly surprising thing about this game is that it felt like Georgia had it wrapped up, or at least what you typically see from Georgia. You thought it was done. Like Ole Miss took the early lead. Georgia was kind of slow out of the gates. They weren't finishing drives, they weren't scoring. And it was, you know, but Ole Miss was settling for field goals, but they had the 12 nothing lead. And then Georgia just completely, you know, comes back and scores 21 points in the second quarter to take that 21:12 lead into the half. I was like, okay, this is done. Like they've done the thing where they've adjusted. They figured it out. They're going to shut these things down and we're going to have another blowout here, another day, you know, the third blowout of the day. George is going to pull away in the second half and Ole Miss was, it was pretty much the opposite of what we saw in the first game. It was Ole Miss who took over in the second half. This time they outscored him 27 to 13, 20 points. In the fourth quarter. Trinidad Chambliss going just. I don't even know how to describe what he was doing. He was running around like crazy. High wire act, high danger and just making plays down the field, escaping from pressure with just insanity. And it just like when he completed those two passes back to back while just running around, it's like that was you, you do right then. Well, there's no way in hell Ole Miss isn't going to go down and finish this drive with a touchdown to take the lead. You don't get away with those plays and then not cash it out. That' just not the way fate works. And I mean he finishes with 362 yards, two touchdowns. He rushed for 14. Kwan Lacy. We were wondering how healthy he was going to be. Looked pretty damn healthy. 98 yards rush and he did have the fumble that hurt them. But this was just, I mean I'm kind of still in shock. Honestly. I, I, I did not expect this at all.
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I mean mostly same right. My concern was with Georgia's offense, which I didn't think was going to look the same without Bobo. And I, I don't think I was fully right on that. Like they definitely moved the ball some in 355. Now you compare that to what they did in Athens. 510 in Athens, 6.4 per play in Athens, 5.1 tonight. Like Stockton's still no downfield passing threat at all. Georgia like played in a very small box. The 2D tackles for old Miss I, I think did take advantage some of Drew Bobo not being in there. Not that the backup center played terribly, but like they miscommunicated several of those stunts inside. Georgia only had three tackles for loss tonight and zero sacks on like almost 80 plays. Faced like they were. Georgia did not control the line of scrimmage. Georgia did not have any pass rush when it did not blitz. And honestly I thought ole misses blitz pickup was excellent. But I mean, yeah, it's probably capability was insane. Like it's probably when, when he completed his 13th consecutive pass for a touchdown is when I was like, okay, you know what? Like this guy's just on one man, this and Grant like Georgia's DBs are dropping like flies and Ole Miss does have a really nice set of receivers and they kind of do the receiver by committee thing which is very hard to do in college ball. But he's, he's willing to throw it to anybody and just distributes the ball and it was God, man, like that, what a, what a game by that kid. And like I thought their blitz pickup was great. Gave him a little bit of time on some of the deeper stuff.
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Masterful. So you, but I know you talk about it a lot, but it didn't Trinidad look like the kind of quarterback performances that used to beat up on the old Bama teams?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh we've game planned this perfectly and oh no he's just not playing football anymore. He's just out there creating things that with that seemingly are not there because they did have to dial up the pressure. But there were red jerseys that were rushing free in the Ole Miss backfield. They just couldn't bring Trinidad Chambliss down. And credit to him for the playmaking. Credit to him for keeping his eyes downfield because it was just a numbers game. And then like to your point, the Ole Miss is wide receivers. You're not going to have like one who's going to be a superstar and dominate, but they made enough of those one on one grabs to be able to continue to move this ball and be able to go out there and get these answers.
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I mean, it's just what is happening right now. Like the chat saying this thing is still not over. Like they rolled the stage out in the field or something. Like George's been able to throw a hail Mary.
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What?
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Like they're close. I'm going to pull this up. They're close enough to throw a hail Mary. Like they get some crazy penalty or something.
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How is the game not over? Wasn't there. Oh, because there was a safety and they ruled that there was a second left.
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Okay, so.
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So maybe the refs are going to give Georgia a touchdown somehow.
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Like, because 39, 34. Not 37, 34.
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Did Sanki call it in?
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What the hell is going on?
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All right, now it's officially over. 39, 34. Okay.
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All right.
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Well, I, I don't want to derail the recap of that, but that was like.
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Okay.
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No, it's okay. I mean, the tailgate derailed it. Don't. No blame on you for that one. That wasn't Florida State, Notre Dame scheduling information. No, you're good. That. Hey, that, that penalty, that penalty goes on the tailgate for that one. So 39, 34. Finals.
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All right, so, Kirby, smart game mismanagement.
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Oh, God.
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The clock has to run on that third down before you kick the field goal to tie the ball game up. Has to. Like you've had no success defending Ole Miss in open space all night. If it goes to overtime, you do get to defend him in a compressed area. Now, I know he was great tonight in the red zone as well, but. But like, I like my chances in the red zone against them better than I do in the open area. Right. My size plays a little more, my length plays a little bit more. Not to have Gunner Stockton like, dude, it's either wide open or scramble it. Clock's gotta run. You Gave Ole Miss a full minute to get down and beat you with the field goal. And I just thought that was just brutally bad game mismanagement by Kirby. And granted, assuming that, like, that was not what Stockton was told, there's some chance that Stockton was told that and he thought the kid was open and, like, the guy was not open. You know, he's like, he's not a great thrower. So I just. I think you got to drill it in, man. It's either there or you got to run the ball. The clock has got to run. Because if you go, what were they stuck with? Like, 22 seconds, 21 seconds. At that point, it was no timeouts.
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For a lot of the game. Like, it felt like Gunner was pulling the ball down and looking to scramble way too early.
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Yeah.
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And then the one time where it was kind of like, all right, not there. Pull the ball down and scramble. It was the one time he was like, all right, I'm gonna make this throw. I'm gonna make this play happen. So it was her. Yeah, that was bad. I do feel like, as brilliant as the one fake punt design was and the fact that it worked the other fourth down decision, I. The way it's not even so much the going for it just is the way they went about it. Going with the timeout and then sending out the punt team and then doing, like, the scramble drill and then going it. Like, there was clearly a lot of confusion on that. Yeah. About what the hell we were out here doing.
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Like, two of the offensive linemen never get out of their stance.
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No, they thought. They thought it was going for the hard count.
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I don't know if, like, I mean, clear. That got miscommunicated. I don't know what the intended communication was. It's probably something like, hey, if we get the look, we're going right, you know, like, now, now, now call. Right. But I. I.
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Now here's one for you is that we're not having Drew Bobo affected you.
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Possibly. I thought it was affecting a lot. Like, Ole Miss was messing Georgia up, like, guard, center, guard with some of those, like, tackle, tackle stunts. Kirby actually talked about this at the halftime interview. You know, he's like, they're getting home on tackle. Tackle. Yeah, they. They are.
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That.
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Yeah, that was kind of weird. But, like, both sides mismanage situations, too. Ole Miss field goal attempt before the half never got off and on. On the third and nine, Ole Miss, like, looks to be playing like the. The safeties are 15 yards off the ball on third and nine, and the one safety is in just like a total pedal. Like they're throwing a Hail Mary.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And. And you know, like, McRoy's point, like, it was good. He threw it over the first level, but, like, he had a lot of space though the first level because there was no second level, because they backpedaled to like, 24 yards off the ball in third nine. So they completed for like, 14.
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It called drop eight. Safety called drop eight. The safety herd dropped 80.
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I. I think that the way that I was watching this game, by the time we got to those last decisions, that had been so much crazy stuff that had happened already. It would not surprise me if the players in that game, in that building, which, by the way, looked electric. You know, like, I just guess what the things. Things. Think about the successful wild stuff that had already happened for both teams at that point. And like, all the different game. Like, we'd gone so far into the twilight zone on this game that it would not surprise me that there was miscommunication that there's execution errors. Like, that's just. That's just kind of what they. Kind of what the game devolved into. It was not a surprise that it got sloppy and there were a lot of mistakes late. This was not crisp by any means.
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If you had shown a highlight reel, like, if we could have just seen a highlight reel of ole misses miscues in this game without any other context, we would have thought Georgia beat their ass. Like the. The. The tight ends dropping wide open balls. The.
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The. The.
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The fumble six. I mean, George is up, what, 2413 at one point?
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Yes.
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Or 2113 was 2112. Okay. All right.
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Because they went for two, which was another decision that was like, I don't know if we need to be doing that right now.
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Shout to the kicker, by the way. Good God. Like, SEC kickers this year, guys are unreal. Oklahoma's guy, like, just. I mean, they have kicking on lock.
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Does that kid have any eligibility left.
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Like, for the NFL playoffs?
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No, I'm just saying, does he have, like, college eligibility left? Why he should be in the portal as soon as this is over.
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If he doesn't, he should be in the draft.
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I was saying he should definitely enter the portal. He should just be like, let's see what kind of offers I can get. Yeah.
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This is the second straight year that Georgia has won the sec, gone to the Sugar bowl and lost. Are those isolated incident. Isolated incidents or something like a frustration for Georgia fans or something that we should hold as criticism Last Year was.
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A very different situation last year was Carson Beck getting her in the SEC championship.
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I was even going to say a rescheduled game because of a damn tragedy.
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That too. But then you just taking that out of it. It's just your, your backup quarterbacks making his first career, starting a freaking playoff game against a team that ended up getting to the title game. So I, I don't hold anything about what happened last year into context of what happened tonight. Tonight, I think was Ole Miss gave you a whole lot of chances to win that game and you took control of that game. And then in a very un. Georgia like, fashion, you gave it all right back.
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I think the Frazier injury probably hurts a little bit, but it was so late in the game, I was surprised they didn't just keep giving him the ball. You know, it's those other two backs like Bowens and McCray. I just, I think they're decent, but I don't think they're like, wow. Like when Frazier gets the ball, it's like, oh, shoot. Like he's kind of their explosive threat other than Branch, because it, because Stockton does not throw the ball down the field very well or much or both.
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And Frazier's like 0 to 60 is like remarkable for what you see for most running back. That's not a dude who's waiting for the hole. He just looks for it and tries to get there before anybody else notices it.
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Yeah. How's the connection doing?
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You're blurry, but we can hear you.
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Yeah. Okay.
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All right. It's still an audio product first.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Like people are wanting us do a watch along and I'm like, that's a terrible audio product. I'm pretty sure Mikey doesn't want to do a four hour edit on a pot.
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You know.
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Fine. Ultimate stories for me from this game. Number one, Trinidad Chambliss. Number two, Pete Golding. Like, this is. These are your first two wins as a head coach.
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It's a better win than Lane Kiffin has had his entire career.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Lane Kiffin was at an LSU women's basketball game tonight while Ole Miss was beating Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Imagine I told you that five months ago.
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Was Lane Kiffin holding Ole miss back.
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Pete Golding's 20 against Georgia and Tulane this year. Lane was 1 and 1. The results speak for themselves.
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I, man, I really like other takeaways. Just some like, not bit players, but guys who aren't stars at this point on Ole Miss defense, like meeting the moment and just being physical. I know they gave up 30 something points, but like, so 29. The safety call, like flies down and just destroys the. On that counter that Georgia had set up. Like, oh, they're gonna pop this. And he just absolutely crushes that guy back, back into the puller. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like that's different. And then Cetera and Perkins getting the strip sack on gun. Like that was huge.
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I thought that was a miscommunication on the outside of the line. Okay.
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That was the fourth down. We were like, like they weren't sure because you can tell. So Monroe Freeling, when he turns around, he's like jumping in like frustration, yelling something. I assume it Gunner. Right. Like why do you. I'm guessing it's like, why'd you snap that thing? Right. So, yeah, to our point, that was kind of discombobulated.
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Also, Xavian Harris. How many times do you see a defensive tackle get 10 tackles in a game? Just absolutely wrecking George's run game.
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I think Chat's right to Harris, the other Harris, Gabe Harris, not beginning for Georgia, he had kind of emerged as their best pass rusher down the stretch, you know, like they could have used somebody who could win up front without blitzing tonight.
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Also losing Thomas to the targeting penalty. Oh, yeah, let's do that.
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It's. I mean, we. How many times have like bud and had this rant on this show. It's, it's sucked. It's terrible.
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That.
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Yeah, you know, nothing, There was nothing egregious about that. There was nothing dirty about it. And it has a major impact in a playoff game. So it's like, I, I understand the safety aspects and what you're trying to do, but you don't need to eject a player for that. You want to flag them, fine, whatever. We flag people for the dumbest crap in the sport to begin with. But to eject a player for that hit, which is clearly not dirty, was just a football play, is ridiculous. If he's want to talk about fixing the schedule, fix the damn targeting rule.
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If that wide receiver is 3 to 4 inches taller, it's the strike zone. Yeah.
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Or if he's not getting dragged down by the other defender on a bang bang play. Targeting is a made up social construct by the lawyers so that when they get sued big time in 10 years, like Dennis Dodd talked about on our show two years ago now, when they get sued for all the head injury concussion lawsuits that are coming, they can say, hey, we tried. Like, it doesn't change behavior in people. It's A bang bang collision sport. It's not a contact sport. Like, if you.
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If you.
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You guys have all played like, like not, not. Not at the Georgia level, but, like, it's bang bang.
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You don't have.
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Not.
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Like, I. Listen, I know there's some. I know there's some new people in the, in the chat. I have not, you know, I got. I got crushed out there. I, I, you know, I. The. My. My little frail body got up to the press box at a young age. I'm just so excited. I was calling. I was calling the Holiday Invitational. I. I was calling high school. I was a.
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In.
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Arena announcer in high school.
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Spearing was an appropriate penalty. Spearing had an intent. Like, it had an intent element. Like, you had to actually, like, be trying to, like, kill shot a defenseless guy. Goldberg. Right.
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But, like, I mean, the. The best way I could feel like, to just to describe the ridiculousness of what happened there is. What happened is targeting. If as he was being dragged down, the receiver had done this and had his hand in front of his face, it wouldn't have been targeting because then he wouldn't have been defenseless. That's how stupid the rule is.
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They used to perp walk these guys out off the field. Remember that? Yes. They're like, oh, we'll let you stay on the field. Like, on the sideline now. It's.
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But Georgia losing a safety. Brains. But Georgia losing a safety against Trinidad Chambliss in a game that finished 39, 34 was significant. You know, I'm not gonna say that. Aside of the game, Jordan, we have just detailed for the last 21 minutes the different ways Georgia lost this game and the ways that Ole Miss won it. Right. The excellence of Trinidad Chambliss again.
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But, you know, Lacey playing through injury, big blitz, pickups, running hard. Like they just weren't out physical by Georgia.
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No.
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Like they met the moment and.
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And that's, you know, which, which, first of all, let's. Let me. Let's just do it for our guy.
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Oh, yeah, we need to text him.
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Yeah. Shout out to the dentist. You know, that was a. I want.
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To know if I'm the dentist. I'm probably sending some consoling texts to Mackenzie. He.
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I just texted him, you up?
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Hell, yeah, he is. I'll tell you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, what's out?
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Goggles on, buddy.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, he.
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He hit his Georgia team to over.
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31 and a half. He did?
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Yeah.
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Did not Dennis live without Barton. Supervision is.
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Approved.
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Absolutely not.
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You need Barton's very responsible supervision.
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Okay, we will have a lot more to peel apart here, but other things that we need to do include getting to the other games. A quick look ahead to our two semifinals. So coming up on the other side, Indiana continues to slay the dragons of this sport. Oregon's defense bounces back from a tough first round outing and more nukes.
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Back here on the COVID 3 podcast as we continue to recap a busy New Year's Day in the College Football Playoff in terms of the actual game and how we got there. Going to need some help from you all. We had some post game CBS Sports HQ on the field. Then I went into Oregon's cigar smoke filled locker room to talk to some players there for a story on cbs sports.com right now. So by the time I got back up to the press box to even write the story, the game was basically over. Like Indiana had just absolutely put Alabama in a box and shipped their asses right back to Tuscaloosa. Tom, how'd we get there?
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Well, you know, Indiana grabbed Alabama, held it up by its ankles, stuck its face in the toilet and started flushing the toilet. And then it just held him there for a couple hours. And that was really how. I mean, they had the three and out to start the game, but from that point on, like, their offense was damn near unstoppable. Like, their next drive was 16 plays for 84 yards. That took nine minutes off the clock. They had to settle for the field goal. But as soon as they pulled that drive out, I was like, okay, this. This is going to be a very long day for Alabama because they were just getting out physical. They were getting beat up. Alabama finally learned what it was like to be on the other end of the Nick Saban Alabama teams because that's exactly what happened to them today. That's what it reminded me of. That's what it looked like. It was complete physical manhandling, and it was incredibly impressive. And it. I hated every second of it, genuinely. If I. If I could be. If. If I could be vulnerable here, you know, people think I'm a big ten homer. The only big ten team I root for to win football games is Illinois. Just because I defend the big Ten, when you want to say it sucks doesn't mean I love the big Ten and I'm rooting for the big Ten. I'm just telling you facts. For my entire life, Illinois and Indiana were two crappy football teams. We had basketball. We hated each other because of basketball. Then Illinois finally gets good at football, and at the same damn time, Indiana is even better. I. I am not happy about this. I hate this. I'm happy for the players. I'm happy for the coaches on a human level, because, you know, we work in this job, we get to know these guys. Happy form, big win for him. But as a fan, this sucks really, really bad.
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Yeah.
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All those Indiana fans in your neighborhood, right?
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All the Indiana fans, family, neighborhood, just. It's the guys that just started showing up. You see a lot more Indiana flags around the hood these days than you had in the past decade. But, yeah, it sucks.
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So. And Sandy talked about this a little bit in the halftime interview. But they came out. Bama was, like, very aggressive with their blitz stuff. They were playing a lot of man, which is what we talked about on big game breakdown. Like, you probably can't play the type of zone in the amount of zone that you play for Bama normally against Mendoza, because he's just going to carve you with the variety of RPO stuff they have. And I think, like, Indiana did a really good job saying, okay, this is. They clearly repped this. Like, hey, what if Bama because they have some decent DBs, obviously. Like, what if they decide to play us a lot of men, A lot of heavy pressure stuff. I thought it effect is affected. Bama's run fits quite a bit. Right. Like we. We talked about the past game stuff here, but Indiana really punished them. Like every time Bama misfit a run, it was like, here's 18, here's 16, here's 12. Like just a lot of runs where Bama did not look comfortable fitting the run out of the defensive plan that they had. I think to defend Mendoza and Chip, they also got like really good. Mendoza, like Indiana picked up the blitz well and he just knew exactly where to go with it and was searchable. He had more touchdowns than incompletions on the day. So like, if you're getting that Mendoza, which you get more often than not, but like, you know, very good friend and have that in a playoff game. I mean, he just diced him like that. That was pretty surgical. He also ran the ball and that's kind of something we saw on. On. It's kind of a weird time of year. I don't actually know what day it is, but last night where Carson Beck took off and ran several times. Like with Bama playing that much, man, they certainly weren't spying. Mendoza, he ran for what, three first downs? Yeah, and like kind of critical ones to keep the like drives alive. That allowed them to keep the tide off the field. I mean, Bama only ran 50 plays in the whole game because like, like Indiana had a lot of of long drives that just kept him off the field. And I thought Mendoza was really good. Left side of the offensive line, I thought played super physical and was awesome. Right side of the offensive line is where I was like, God damn. I just misfit that run terribly like that. That's like a natural bubble. And like, they didn't. If you're gonna like align that way, you also have to like, you got to basically like make up for it. And they just didn't. And it's like, well, oh cool. We'll take a free tent here on the ground. That seems as long as it's not a trap. Oh, it's not a trap. You guys are just not not doing this correctly.
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Cool.
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We'll punish. They just don't beat themselves.
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Yeah.
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And if you make mistakes, they kill you for it.
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It's.
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It was surgical.
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You look at Mendoza's final line and he only threw for 192 yards, but he only threw the ball 16 times. So it's 12 yards per attempt, but as a team, Alabama only had 193. Yeah, like it was, it was an. It was an ass whooping. I mean and like I was, I was jokingly tweeted it, but I, I understand what Alabama was going through. Like, I know what Alabama fans felt like tonight. I was there a few months ago. So, like you've got a support group. Just reach out if you need to talk to somebody about it. I've also had my ass kicked by Indiana and I can help you get through it.
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The recognition for those backers too, like, with how much two eye safety Indiana is able to play and to be able to defend. Like, not that Bama's run game is good because it's clearly had issues all year, but like, man, they play a lot of light box and are able to just like, they just recognize an ID so fast that it kind of. It allows them to play a man down in the box. Like, meaning like without an extra guy in the box. Not, not like down formation. They just like they, they just close distance. Like they're fast, but also like the, the recognition is tremendous, man. Like, they are really, really well coached and the DC's pressure packages remain awesome.
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Like Brian Haynes, baby.
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God, like, he did it. He did it to, I mean, some really good ocs. He got Will Stein up in Eugene. He got Ryan Day and that crew in the title game. He got Ryan grubbing those guys tonight multiple times. Like, they really ID your protections.
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Well, like, I understood why they did it and I understood why they felt like they needed to make that change. But because of that, because of how good Indiana's defense has been and how much they've done to confuse quarterbacks all year long, like Alabama throwing Austin Mack in, I was like, oh, guys, this, this is not going to work. Like, this kid who's played like maybe 20 snaps all season, you're throwing him in against this defense where you're down multiple scores and they're just gonna be coming at you on every single snap. And to Austin Mack's credit, like, when he first came out there, I was like, damn, where's this kid been all year? He was moving the ball down the field. But then once, you know, the second possession, it didn't go nearly as well, so. But it was, yeah, that is. That is not a fun team to play. That is not a team that is going to go anywhere. That is not a team that if I'm Oregon, I'm very excited to see. I know Bryce Betcher was talking to Danny on the field at the Orange bowl after the game today. And he was saying he wanted to get Indiana because he wanted to get back at him. Bryce, buddy, I don't know if you really want that because like, that is, that is not. And we'll get to your game in a little bit as far as your offense struggling, but that is not something I want to see coming my way. If I was Oregon, I'd have been rooting like hell for Alabama to pull.
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Off the upset today. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
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Is Indiana's the monster?
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Yeah, I mean we, we were, we.
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Were, we were like, oh man, Ohio State just lost. How crazy is it that Indiana is, is the betting favorite to win the national championship? And after everything that we have seen to this point, damn right Indiana is the favorite to win the national championship. What, what is the flaw? I mean you still got to go win it. You still got to go play it. And I do you know that they, they could have a bad game and somebody else could rise up and get.
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Them, but their corners aren't huge. So that could be a problem for them. But that's been the case all year and it hasn't really been a problem for him.
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Yeah, if you want to nitpick and that's really all you can do. It's, it's, you're, you're picking nits because they kill almost everybody. They have played a lot closer games against most of the best teams that they've faced. Especially the teams with a lot of really like big time D linemen. They're probably a little better run blocking than pass blocking it. If, like, you know, if Miami played them, would Miami have a chance to give them real problems with a defensive front? I think so, yeah. Because Penn State gave him problems and you know, so did, so did Ohio State. Right.
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And you saw in this game, like when Alabama was getting one on ones between their ends and their tackles, they were winning those battles most of the time. Like Mendoza wasn't exactly standing in the pocket for hours today. He was under duress a lot of the time. So that, that will be an issue for them.
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100. I, I would kind of like to see Miami's run game against how Indiana wants to play.
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Especially with like the rhythm that that run game is in right now.
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Right? Yeah, exactly. You know, I'm sure Oregon wants another bite at that apple. We'll get the chips game in a second. But like they, they just, they really executed the moment so well. Like Mendoza is so well prepared, he knows exactly where to go with it. Like, there's. Did he even throw any balls tonight that, like, should have been picked?
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No.
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Like, he didn't put any in danger. Just. He sees it so well. He's very well prepped on it. It's. I mean, there's a reason the guy won the Heisman.
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All right, Reckless Time. Is Kurt Signetti's work over the last two years at Indiana one of the greatest college football stories of the modern era?
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Yeah, one of, like, what. What do we think it's better if he finishes.
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Listen, I'm starting. I'm putting the bar low because it. There's, like, the.
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The.
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The facts of it right now on the screen. We've got the most head coaches, most wins by head coach in the first two seasons at a school. He is now tied Caitlin DeBoer with 25. You know, the other names on the list are Lincoln Riley, Mark Helfrich at.
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Oregon, Urban Meyer situations on that board right now.
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Look, I'm. I'm telling you that there is, like, this is one of the greatest sports stories of my lifetime. Sports stories, like one of the greatest college sports stories of my lifetime. That. The transformation of Indiana into who they are. And again, that's like. Because beating Alabama is another piece of this. Indiana's last two wins were against Ohio State and Indiana. I mean, Ohio State and Alabama, like, they are literally slaying the dragons of the sport on their way to the mountaintop.
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I think Oregon's light work at this point.
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This is bananas. And again, like, we picked. I. I picked Indiana to win this game. So obviously it's not the individual results along the way. When you put me in the middle of it, I'm like, yeah, well, of course, that makes sense. But if you were to remove yourself and take a step back, this is truly remarkable. And look, Kurt is going to sit down and tell you about the next down and tell you about the next play and tell you about relentlessness and all the mantras, right? He's going to have all the different sayings. But it is very difficult right now in the middle of this playoff run to really get my arms around what we're dealing with, because if Indiana finishes the job, it is one of the greatest stories in. In the. In, like, my lifetime of sports, period.
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Like, very quick turnaround from being ass to national title. I was.
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I don't think program that was like a seller dweller.
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That. That's the difference because. Because the one I was thinking was Oklahoma, who went 5 and 5, 3 and 8, 4 and 8, 5 and 6, stoops. Comes in there. Year 17 and 5, they finish second in the Big 12 south and then they go 130 win the title in 2000. But like Oklahoma and Indiana are not really comparable in terms of like program prestige, you know, so it's, it's way better than that.
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I mean, is it, what, what are the other examples? You can't say a professional sport because they're all built, you know, to like where. Allow for parody. I don't know. Like even, even Texas Tech today. What? Like Texas Tech had its rise and Oregon was like, sit down. You know, like there. It's. Yeah, it, there's a, there's a cast system.
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Is there a basketball example? Like an out of nowhere turnaround from like a really bad program that just wins the whole thing?
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Butler.
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Butler maybe bad.
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I don't know. I mean I'm. And they didn't win the whole thing.
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No. So I don't know. I mean I don't think there really is like not in college sports. It might have happened in professional, but it's very different in professional because of the way the salary caps and all that stuff works. Not in college sports.
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No.
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This is, this is an unprecedented thing that I don't think can happen in any climate in previous history because of the way that things work now where you can overhaul a team. And I can't remember who tweeted it originally and I am sorry, but I saw the one tweet where somebody said about talked about all like the myths that Kurt Signetti is destroying. Like you can't overhaul a team quickly anymore. You, you can't, you can't survive a first round buy. It's like every single myth that we have built up about college football, Signetti's just walked in and like, yeah, no, that's not true. You can do that.
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Yeah.
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The first round by thing is ridiculous in terms like that. The better team has won most of those games. The FA in fact, like the team that one was favored in in most cases. And even tonight Georgia got a buy and lost. But they were up 2112 after the first half. It's not like they came out slow.
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Say it again for the people in the back.
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The buys have nothing to do with it. And I will also go like the like the one stat. They even put it up on the game tonight. Like the, the buy team has been outscored 45 to 3 in the first quarter. Well, they didn't tell you is that 42 to 3 of those points were just Ohio State who played Arizona State, Texas and Penn State against Boise State last year. The other games, it's been, you know, the other games have been three to nothing.
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Wow.
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Just super slow starts. But can I just point out a fun stat from this game that we're talking about?
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Yeah.
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I didn't realize it until I was looking at it now. Receptions wise. Alabama's leading receiver today, it's running back Daniel Hill. He had seven catches for five yards with a long of six. I mean they're, that's hard to do.
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That's amazing.
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Kudos. Kudos to Daniel Hill.
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Like they, they never, they never got him out of that two eye shell. Look, they really couldn't push the ball down the field very much. Right. Like the long was 34 yarder to Bernard, which Mac threw. I do wonder how hurt Simpson was. Like, like the broadcast clearly knew something about this going in, you know, because they started to mention it was like, oh, like, like his elbow's been really jacked up and whatnot. Like Mac was better than Simpson tonight.
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Damn.
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Yeah.
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It'S gonna be, it's gonna be a pressure packed year next season for Kaylin DeBoer. We can, we can spend some more time on that all off season emergency pod tomorrow.
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Oh, what happened to George? What happened to George. To George Tonight helps Kaylin a lot, I think.
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Yeah.
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Because like they very much compare themselves to what Kirby does over there.
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Yeah. That. I mean nothing happens in a vacuum.
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And Auburn's roster leaving very fast also probably, you know. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Last thing on this free business idea for someone who's has some time D2 scouting service because like remember D2 grades aren't on Pff. Unless they play an FBS team or sorry an FCS team. Because they grade FCS, they don't grade D2. Right. And a lot of D2 is not on the same type of like video system that FCS and FBS are on. So you really gotta dig for those guys. Not there are many that are coming out of D2 are actually any good at all because like D2 is a pretty lower level than FCS. But I mean clearly Ole Miss is happy that they looked at the video on Twitter for Trinidad Chambers.
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Call it island time scouting.
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In honor of we'll name the whole business after Trinidad Chambliss. I like that. Yeah. A little bit earlier in the day we got started and it took a long time. It took a whole damn half of football before we even got a touchdown. And that one touchdown was only a nine yard drive to get the one touchdown yeah. Mateo Ui ungalile with a strip sack of Baron Morton. Bad day to have a bad game for Baron Morton. Somebody whose floor and ceiling already were existing behind his competitor on the other side. And Dante Moore. And Dante Moore, like the stats were efficient. I didn't think it was like an awesome Dante Moore game. I don't think it was an awesome game for Oregon's offense because you had short drive for field goal, short drive for field goal, nine yard drive for touchdown, four forced turnovers, two interceptions, two fumble recoveries for Oregon's defense. To me, this was a story about the Ducks defense just really imposing their will. Drove a lot of the decision making. Speaking of decision making, Oregon goes for it on fourth down eight times in this one, including, including a nifty little fake punt along the way, but also a failed 4th and 2. So lots to be able to to pick apart there. But the final result is Oregon advancing to the semifinals for the first time since 2014. Tom, what. What you think about this one?
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Well, you mentioned the first touchdown didn't come to the third quarter. It should have happened on the first drive of the game. But Dante Moore under threw Malik Benson who did, oh, in the corner, roasted his man off the line of scrimmage and a bad throw allowed the DB to get back in. Broke it up. They had to settle for the field goal. But that goes along with what you said. Like you look at Dante Moore's overall stat line and it's like, oh, okay. But it wasn't a very good performance from Dante. I thought that he and Baron were both suffering from Julian Sayanitis where they were running backwards but not really escaping pressure. So every single sack they were taking was for like a 10 yard loss every single time. And as we talked about last night, like when you do that, that those are drive killers. Like you put yourself in second and 20 instead of second and 14, it's really hard to get out of those and it's really hard to sustain drives when that happens. And then you combine it with the fact that Oregon simply could not run the ball all that effectively against Texas Tech. I mean, even if you take out the sack yardage, they were only averaging 1.9 yards per rush. So that was a problem. And I discussed it during the week, like this is a team that during the last half of the season had really relied on their run game. And I was wondering, like in Dante Moore's drop back game, without the run game to help him out, I had concerns about him and they didn't have the run game. And I thought Dante Moore played poorly today because of that. I also don't think that they did enough getting him out of the pocket because I do think that is where he excels, especially when he's rolling out to his right. He is. He's incredibly accurate. He sees the field extremely well and he's able to rip off chunk plays. Doing that, they didn't do a whole lot of it. I think maybe they were kind of concerned about Texas Tech's edges getting up the field really quick and running him into trouble doing so. But I think that's something that if you ask Dan Lanning and Will Stein, maybe they'd reconsider going forward and say, yeah, we probably should have included a bit more of that in our game plan. But, you know, things kind of broke in the second half because Texas Tech's offense was just dog doo doo. They couldn't do anything. You mentioned the four turnovers. Baron Morton was horrible. They couldn't run the ball. Just. It's like they went for it on fourth down a bunch, but because they felt, why shouldn't we? Well, and also fear.
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Well, they also were just trying to like limit the number of times because they had created this mismatch where, you know, Texas Tech starts with a couple three, three and out in a row. Then they had some four and outs and at one point you were just looking, you're like, Texas Tech's defense is on the field a bunch of. Yeah, the thinking behind going forward on fourth down is let's extend this drive. Let's limit the number of times that Texas Tech is going to touch it. And to your point, the, the one explosive run they had was just kind of like a. That was a good, you know, couple defenders got hung up on each other. He bounced it out, Williams bounced it outside, ripped off a long, long run. That's great. But when Texas Tech is playing with tempo and being ineffective, then their defense is going to eventually wear down. Now, it didn't turn into the total floodgate situation that I know that we were kind of talking about and maybe expecting. And maybe that comes back to us being like, well, maybe the Ducks left a little bit of meat on the bone offensively there, but clearly, clearly this was going to be a game where once they had really tilted the leverage on this one and once for great game for Finney, obviously he was named the defensive MVP of the game. When he, when, when Morton throws into double coverage on the best scoring opportunity that they have and Finney picks him off in the end Zone ball game. And I understand that it was still 13 to 0 at that point, but Texas Tech had not gotten past the 35 yard line. Like, and then they finally get this great opportunity and bad decision, great defensive play. That's you know, night night and, and that's, that's the ball game from there. I know that they played it out, but the reason why, you know, Oregon even decided to kick those field goals in the second half was because they had the lead. And Dan Lanning said as much after the game.
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And I thought, I mean Tex defense played their ass off too. Yeah, I mean they tackled super. Like Oregon does a really good job of scheming guys open so they can make yards after the catch. And look at the Benson's more their downfield guy. So like him with five yards after the catch, not a big deal. Sadiq had five yards after the catch total, right. McClellan had four, Decorian had five. Like they got guys on the ground fat. Like I thought they tackled really well. In addition to creating a ton of havoc up front with that front, they just, you know, the offense, we had concerns about it all year, not in the Big 12, but when they faced a high level, like a team with a lot of future pros and they just, I mean to Oregon's credit, they made a. Not a bad offense, but a somewhat sketchy offense as far as like among playoff level teams look bad.
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And like Texas Tech's offense, the, the script has been the same all year. Boomer bust, they hit big plays and then they kind of stall out and they're overly reliant on those big plays. And we talked about it during the week. Oregon's defense, what's the one thing they're excellent at? Limiting your big plays, limiting your explosives. Oregon took all of them away and Texas Tech couldn't do anything. Like they had to rely on going 3, 4, 5 yards at a time and they just don't have the ability to do it. They don't have the guys and it just, it's. There was no hope for them in this game on offense. And then you toss in the fact that Baron Morton was just, I don't know, playing in a different like universe, whatever word you want to use for him today. Just. Yeah, it was, there was, there was no chance for that offense and that defense played its ass off. And I'd also say to Texas Tech fans, like, I know that the way this ended sucked getting shut out like this and just kind of getting punked in a playoff game, but it kind of reminds Me of where Indiana was last year, where, you know, they beat the hell out of everybody they were supposed to beat the hell out of. But then when they went up against the elite teams, they weren't, they weren't the same team. This is the first year of the process. Winning the Big 12, getting to the College Football Playoff. That's a successful season. And you've got really good recruiting classes coming in. You're getting stronger along the lines of scrimmage. And another echo. You can look at, look at Miami. It takes time. Like Mario has built that team out from the trenches out Texas Tech, you're on the trenches right now. You are working your way out. So I wouldn't like, if everybody wants to kind of just write this off as Texas Tech was a fluke and it was a one year thing and they're not gonna be able to do it. I, I would, I would reconsider that because they're probably going to be back in this situation again next year. They're just like, they're so much different than everybody else in that league.
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They might not be as good defensively next year, but I bet you that their offense takes a good step forward.
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It's. It's 12:36am on the Eastern time. That means we've moved into January 2nd. I would expect that staff to be getting busy here in a couple hours and, and we'll start to see the, the floodgates really open in terms of the way that Texas Tech will be attacking the portal. Joey McGuire said this week down here they are really excited about Will Hammond, but because of that knee injury, they've got to go somewhere else. My read on the situation, not Joey McGuire's quotes. My read on the situation is they'll be looking for a one and done, like a quick hitter, somebody who can come in. And I think that they'll be looking for a difference maker. So this will be very interesting. Texas Tech, throw them up there with a Miami and with a, with an LSU and with anybody else, they'll be, they'll be in the market for whatever is the best available. So we'll be in Oregon. This Austin Nova side situation is interesting, Bud.
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It is.
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Do you know they've got a winter term that starts soon?
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Because they're on the quarter system, right?
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C
Huh?
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B
Yeah. Be interested. Is Kentucky on the quarter system?
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C
Nope. Okay. But I don't know if. I don't know.
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Okay.
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I don't know a lot of. I, I truly think that there is uncertainty. I'll say that, Bud. After, after being being around a lot of those players or a lot of those people. I think there is some uncertainty there. You know, and I think this, I think that what I, what I kept getting back is that there's urgency to make decisions because of the academic calendar. There was, there was uncertainty this afternoon and we'll see what happens in terms of moving forward. So that's, that's for another time.
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That's a good one.
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What's for right now is coming up on the other side, we take a way too early look at the College Football Playoff semifinals and more nukes. Back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Tom, I'm, I'm so glad you were watching CBS Sports hq. Really, really appreciate your viewership there. It was, it was a, it was a great day, great day on the network and we did get Bryce Betcher to come and join us live. And you mentioned that before the game had even kicked off between Indiana and Alabama wanted to get, get his get back and now they're going to get a chance in the Peach bowl in Atlanta. Oregon and Indiana. How do you. What are going to be the keys to the rematch? Yet another rematch here in this College Football Playoff. We've had one every round, so we got to have at least another.
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I mean if Oregon's not able to run the ball in that game the same way they weren't able to run the ball against Texas Tech, it's going to be problems. I mean, I think that is the one thing that if you, and nobody's really done it to this point, if you can't run the ball against Indiana, you're probably not going to have a whole hell of a lot of success against them. And Oregon's going to need to figure it out. They're going to need to try. They have an offensive line that I think is capable of winning battles against that Indiana defensive front. But can they win enough to force Indiana to maybe get out of just pinning its ears back and coming after your ass.
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B
Early spread is what, three and a half now open? Four and a half Got knocked down some. I think the total tells the tale here though. 46.
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A
Right.
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B
They're, I don't think they're expecting Indiana to go score 40, you know, on, on Oregon like what they scored on Bama, like 30 something, 35, whatever the final was.
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C
Yeah.
- [57:11]
B
So I mean if you're playing one of these low scoring kind of slobber knocker games, probably comes down to what it came down in the first game, right. Turnovers. You know, Oregon had that huge pick Six go against them that Indiana, you know, certainly earned. I, I think Tom's right though. Like, can they run the ball a little bit better? Indiana's front is not as good as Texas text. I think their overall defense is better than Tex, you know, but like, that's going to be. That's going to be huge, man. Like Indiana, they also don't really allow explosive plays much like Oregon. So this is probably both sides bottled up quite a bit. Can you find a way to get over the top somehow? Can you find a way to pop a screen? Indiana, just like they just. They yield like no quarterback. It's just so like everything's like they make you earn everything. That's gonna be tough. Dante's gonna be super sharp. I would expect Mendoza to be.
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A
It's like you go back to the first meeting. Oregon only rushed for 81 yards on 30 carries, so 2.7 per clip. They had 20 points, but you got to remember seven of those came on a pick six. They were also only three of 14 on third down, but they converted three of their four fourth downs to keep drives going and able to kind of put points on the board. So there was a whole lot of. By the skin of their teeth in that first game and they still lost by 10 points.
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B
Wasn't that, wasn't that the five sack game for Indiana as well?
- [58:37]
A
I think so, but I don't.
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C
I mean, it was. It was Dante Moore's worst performance of the season.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Yeah. And that's a credit to Indiana's defense and also a great spot for Dante Moore to look and think about ways that he can improve off that.
- [58:53]
A
Six sacks, bud. You shortchanged them six x.
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C
Also, the fast start for Indiana kind of tilted Oregon's hand in that game in terms of making them have to maybe throw it around a little bit more than they necessarily have against other opponents. You know, like they, it kind of felt like they were comfortable with 2 to 3 yards with some of the runs today, just because, I don't know, they were up three nothing. They still had a lead. Like the game didn't slide away from it quite like they did when Indiana was there. But yeah, I'll be looking. We got to Corian Moore back on the field. Wasn't like. Wasn't on the field for every single snap, but he got on the field, got a short little pass, took a hit, bounced back up, you know, had a couple more after that. So good to be able to have an absolute, you know, game. Game wrecking talent when he's 100% how, how he's feeling, we'll see. But that's another thing that's important in terms of the overall math here. Other things that you know are going to be coming to mind. I don't think the absence of Stephen Daly really stood out for Indiana against Alabama. Maybe it will. Last thing. I wonder if it was good for Oregon to play Texas Tech as a little warm up, you know, just, you know, to be able to, you know, learn some things, learn something Saturday, you know, figure out kind of, you know, where you're at and what you need to work on. Because this is a real, real fast turnaround. They're you're going to be headed home and then after just a couple days they'll be going right back across the country again. Miami, Eugene back to Atlanta. That's going to be another thing to take into consideration. Tough travel situation for the Ducks before as they head into that one for Indiana. I don't know man, just keep being you. I don't really have a lot of concerns here.
- [60:48]
B
One thing about that first game and I'm glad you brought that up, Chip, as far as the like them getting game scripted out of it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
The backs were 16 carries for 103. Dante. It was 35 yards lost in sacks. So if the game doesn't get away from them early, maybe Oregon has more confidence that they can run the football on Indiana. Although I guess the counter to that is, hey, when they're up that big, Indiana is a little more permissive in terms of allowing the runs or like.
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C
You know, if I'm going to go back and chart the sacks, which I guess I will do. I mean there's only four teams left in the damn sport so like might as well. But to go back and chart it, how many of those sacks came on third and long because they couldn't get anything done on first and second down?
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B
Yeah, I think that's fair.
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C
Yeah. So that that game of course will be in the Peach bowl, then in the Fiesta Bowl. That is where we will get Ole Miss and Miami. Two passionate fan bases that have been yearning for a moment like this pining. And now one of them, holy crap, either Miami or Ole Miss is going to play for the national championship.
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A
Miami will. Yeah, I, you know, I was, I was very much. I was talking about the path that Miami had to go through to win a national title, which is why I was skeptical. But that was under the impression when I was very strongly convinced that Georgia was going to beat Ole Miss. Well, Miami's favorite In this game. I think they're a three point favorite last I looked. Yeah, I think there's a very good chance for looking at Miami in the national title game.
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B
Ole Miss has chucked it around on some pretty good defenses. I mean, they, they diced Oklahoma in Norman, a dice Georgia tonight.
- [62:39]
A
But I think the difference there is though, like, and this had been a problem all year, George's pass rush had been non existent for the most part. It showed up against Alabama in the SEC title game and we were like, okay, well look, maybe, maybe these boys have figured it out. And then it was completely gone again tonight against Ole Miss. I don't think Miami's pass rush is going to disappear. I don't know if Trinidad's gonna be able to get the hell away. Like he was able to get the hell away against Georgia tonight.
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C
He might. I don't know, man. The stuff he was doing tonight was bananas.
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B
That was wild.
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A
It was, but it's not what I would consider to be repeatable. Yeah.
- [63:14]
B
Given the lack of substituting that Miami does on defense, I would expect Ole Miss to go like, turbo tempo.
- [63:20]
C
I agree.
- [63:22]
B
Like, because you, because you, you want Bane Mezador playing like their 70th or 75th snap in the fourth quarter.
- [63:30]
C
I, I, that was still, you know, we talked about it a little bit on the Instant Reaction podcast, but as we had to keep talking about that, I was like, man, and I think, what do we say on the reaction pod? It was like, maybe they just, like they saw that it wasn't working, that it was even hurting them because the offensive line couldn't get set and they weren't getting their blocks in. But there, there, there might have been an opportunity when you had a key third down and Bane and Messador both couldn't be on the field right, because they were huffing and puffing. I imagine that'll be a part of that as well. But, man, either one of these teams, it is going to be a playoff run for the ages. One of these teams, both of these teams started in the first round. One of these teams is going to be playing for the national championship. And it will be just the kind of like, storybook stuff that like, true fan dreams are made of. So, yeah, we don't have Ohio State, we don't have Alabama, we don't have Oklahoma, we don't have Georgia, but damn it, we've got Miami and Ole Miss, and one of them is going to be playing on the last night of the season. But do you have an early lean on this One. Tom said Miami.
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B
Not as loudly as Tom. I. I think Miami, but yeah, I. I mean, it's not like they scored a whole lot on Ohio State.
- [64:49]
A
Like, we.
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B
Miami does it. Like, they do have an ability to not score. And I would also worry a little bit about game script here. Like, if Ole Miss gets up and they don't have to go just pass all the time, then that, that could be an issue. Like, obviously, like getting an early lead is good. Yeah, sure, right. Like, good analysis.
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A
But.
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B
But I do like a factor here a lot. Like, if it's. If. If Miami gets up, they can lean on, they can play their game, they can just pass rush. They don't have to worry about. About like, you know, the R and the rpo. Then I, I think it heavily favors Miami.
- [65:23]
A
Which team, which quarterback would you rather.
- [65:25]
B
Have in this matchup? Chambers?
- [65:26]
C
Trinidad.
- [65:28]
A
Which is very interesting to consider because if you look at the paychecks, one of the teams went big time on the guy from Georgia and another team went to the D2 guy. And all three of us are sitting there saying, I wish I had the D2 guy.
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B
Cost of the quarterback room, probably similar.
- [65:45]
A
Right?
- [65:46]
B
Because Simmons wasn't cheap.
- [65:47]
A
No, but still, it is funny. It just makes you. It makes you raise your eyebrow, maybe reconsider the way that some teams are doing things.
- [65:55]
B
We do have an offer for the Dentist to come on the show live from him. He said walking out of the game.
- [66:02]
A
No.
- [66:04]
B
No, no, no, no, no. I said, bro. He said, I'm dead. Said, get the God, Get. Get the goggles on and rally. He said, instant reaction. Could get a wild dentist.
- [66:19]
C
No, for his. For. He's. I mean, he's. He's gonna like violate. He's gonna violate like, he's gonna have HIPAA violations. He's gonna start telling us all the cavities that he's been filling all week and everybody's insurance numbers. You know, I can't do that to the Dentist. I can't mess with his money like that. Come on.
- [66:39]
B
Private chat.
- [66:44]
C
So tailgate. Did ask this one, bud. Obviously, Indiana is. Is a. Is a blue chip, not a blue chip ratio. So potentially a team that could go bust. Where's Ole Miss in that one? I know.
- [66:57]
B
Miami either.
- [66:58]
C
Yeah, Miami and Oregon are still obviously both.
- [67:01]
A
Yeah.
- [67:01]
C
Blue chip ratio teams.
- [67:03]
A
But.
- [67:05]
C
Yeah, maybe. Maybe it's Miami, Oregon and BCR rises another year.
- [67:10]
B
It could be. Or what if it's almost Indiana?
- [67:13]
A
Then beat blue chip ratio is dead. And it would never mattered ever.
- [67:20]
B
I do think we have pretty good quarterback play left on all four. Yeah, like, like Beck's played pretty well the last four or five weeks.
- [67:28]
C
Mendoza against more could be the battle for the first quarterback taken in the NFL draft.
- [67:34]
B
Yeah, like if you're Indiana, you already beat more but like I don't think you're in love with having to play that guy again because he does have some ability to make some ridiculous throws and in a one game setting it's likely to be low scoring. Like a couple big balls can make the difference.
- [67:48]
A
That's always pause.
- [67:50]
C
Yeah, 20, 26, I'm bringing back pause. All right. We will be back on Monday where among other things, we will begin breaking down these College Football Playoff semifinals. We'll also along the way be giving you updates on the transfer portal as the portal has opened here on January 2nd. So come and hang out our usual time, 11am Eastern time. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Franelli. You follow him@bud elliot3 you follow me at Chip Underscore Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.
- [68:27]
A
Thank you.
- [68:28]
B
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