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Indiana can can sort of cement itself as we are no longer this team that's going to be fighting for six wins anymore. Malachi Toney is he going to be ready?
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Dante Mora he showed improvement. Better command. What's going on y'? All? Bud Elliott here of the COVID 3 College Ball podcast. And this is summer school. We are in session talking byu all things with My man Jeff Hansen here of Cougar Sports Insider. Jeff, welcome back, man.
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Thanks, bud. Good to see you, man.
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Always a good time for sure. Pretty nice season for BYU last year. Made the Big 12 championship game. You know, won what, 12 games like that. That's a lot of stuff for kook fans to be happy. I assume it's. It's all positive vibes out there in Provo.
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Yeah, I think so. I mean, last year was great. Certainly surprised everybody. Red slap leaves. You don't. You don't have a quarterback going into the season. You start a true freshman wearing number 47. Like, nobody feels great about that on week one, but that, that turned out to be pretty good. And then after the season ends, Kalani Stockade turns down. Penn State, sticks around. Yeah, man. I mean, it's all good vibes in Provo right now.
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That was huge, man. I, I have Penn State, they got somebody good. But, like, for a while I was like, man, yeah, like, Sataki is such a nice fit at byu. I feel like. I don't really know what they would have done had he left, I guess, but, you know, they have some options. So.
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Yeah, there would have been some option, but it does, it does feel like Kalani, man, he's. He's born to be the head coach at byu and it feels like he's really just settling into his own. So, yeah, I, I think that him here and solidified for the foreseeable future. It's huge for, for the program.
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Yeah. And it was a problem that could have or a solution that was basically money. It was like, BYU's got money. Like, if the money's the thing that I find it, you know. Exactly. They did lose somebody, though. And I was defensive coordinator who left, and now Papinga is getting the defense coordinator job and a couple other defensive coaches moving around on the staff as well. Like, kind of personnel aside, how, if at all, do you see this defense changing in terms of what they want to do with new leadership?
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You know, I, I think it will be. It will be really, really similar. There was this kind of belief that when Jay Hill, he comes from that Kyle Whittingham coaching tree, BYU is going to run that Utah defense with a true 4:3. But if you go and you break down the film, BYU ran a lot of odd fronts throughout the year, and that's really what their personnel needed. And that's what Kelly Pippinga has always done coming from that Bronco Mendenhall tree. So I think you'll see BYU double down on that A little bit. But by and large, I think it's going to be really similar because whether it's Kelly Pippinga or J. Hill, Gary Anderson's kind of the Godfather behind the scenes, that he's an analyst there that sits up in the box, sits right next to J. Hill. He'll sit right next to Kelly Pippinga. And. And when you have a guy like that that could kind of be that, just that assistant that's there to just kind of advise on everything that's going on, that's huge, right? I mean, he's got a ton of experience, and really he built the defense that J. Hill coached, that Kalani Satake coached. So you've got the architect there behind the scenes. Kelly Pippinga obviously is the face and will bring his own flavor to it. But I think because of that, there's going to be a ton of continuity. It's going to look and feel really similar. Maybe the one difference that I think will be tangible on Saturdays, I think by nature Kelly Pipping is going to be a little bit more aggressive. Dial up a few more blitz packages than J. Hill was. That's some of that Bronco Mendenhall tendencies that you see him play. You know, that's an aggressive defense. So I think you'll see a little bit more aggression from. From Kelly Pippinga. But from a schematic standpoint, I think it's going to look and feel really, really similar.
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Gotcha. All right, let's hit our first quick break here on way back. We'll kind of dive into this offense and see what we got going on. Provo, It's Charles Barkley here with Wayfair. Let me tell you, game day is serious business at my house. If I'm grilling, chilling and watching H, my outdoor setup better be ready to play. That's where Wayfair wins. From patio seating and umbrellas to grills and grill accessories, Wayfair's got it all and it shows up fast. I'm talking fast and easy delivery. So level up your grill game and your outdoor chill game and head to Wayfarer.com to get your outdoor space ready for the season. Wayfair, every style, every home. And we're back here on summer school. That is Cougars Sports Insider's own Jeff Hanson talking all things byu. A lot of good stuff to talk about from his offense from, from a year ago. Bear Bachmeyer. Do I have this right in my notes that he was not a spring enrollee? So, like, he just got on on campus in summer and started rolling, you
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know, yeah, that's a true, true freshman.
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Right?
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I mean, that doesn't happen anymore, in fact, but he, he was at Stanford, if you remembered, first spring ball. So, I mean, Andrew Luck thought that was going to be their guy at Stanford. So not only was he not at byu learning a college offense, he was learning an entirely different college offense. I think he showed up in Provo, it was mid June, just like a true summer enrollee. So for. For BYU to hand him the keys to the kingdom for week one, that was huge. That. That's all of BYU's quarterback history that they've had for, you know, decades. They've never done something like that and never seen that kind of success. So huge and a huge reason why now that he's. He's familiar with the offense, he's got an off season to, to get more comfortable. There's a lot of confidence that he takes a big step forward.
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I'm glad you said that because I, I found myself looking at this and, you know, in watching him last year, I'd have to kind of remind myself, hey, like, he, as you noted, a true, true freshman. And like, like that, you know, when they were going up against Texas Tech, I was like, I don't. I don't think he's good enough. Like, he was kind of like, really good for a freshman, but, like, you know, not somebody you'd plug in on a playoff team, really, I wouldn't think, you know, at least not if you're gonna make a run in the playoff. But the fact that he got there in June, like, never got a spring with it, is he's pretty remarkable. He took a pounding, too. Like, 11 rushing touchdowns. Like, like they put his body on the line and, you know, managed to, you know, stay healthy for the most part. Where can he take the biggest leaps this year if he's going to carry this offense? Probably even more than he did last year.
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Yeah. I think going into the year, Aaron Rodrick, he knew that Bear Bachmire was so young, so inexperienced, you had to play everything really vanilla and really safe. And you saw little sprinkles added throughout the season as he got a little bit more and more comfortable. But you really didn't see a Rod ever, like, unleash Barkmire, let him go out and make mistakes, throw the ball, put the ball in the air. Until the bowl game, you saw, because L.J. martin was hurt in the Pop Tart bowl, Bear Bachmeyer had to throw the ball around. And all of a sudden it was like oh, my gosh. Just BYU have a throwing quarterback. I think he threw for 300 and something yards in that game. He completed, you know, 65, 70% of his passes. He looked pretty dynamic as a passer. That's where the biggest step needs to come. But you saw some signs that, okay, I think there's something in there. And you combine that with what Aaron Rodrick has always done. He's found ways to, to get his quarterbacks in, in great situations and he's always found ways to make his quarterbacks better. And I think that's maybe one of the most underappreciated things about a Rod. You look at Zach Wilson when he, when he, when a Rod got there, all of a sudden Zach Wilson looked like the Zach Wilson we remember. Jaren hall turned into a draft pick. Jake Retzlaff, for people who remember Those, those first four games that he had at BYU, they were dreadful. I mean, he was a 50% passer. He looked abysmal. And then he turned around and he won 11 games. After a year of working with a Rod, there's a lot of confidence that a Rod, he knows how to coach quarterbacks specifically for this offense. I think Bear can take a step forward as a passer. I don't think he's going to be a 300 yard type game like we saw, you know, in the Pop Tart Bowl. That's not who he is every week, but I think he can complete 65% of his passes. He can make big throws when he needs to. And that, that 225, 250 yards per game mark. If Bear Bachmeyer can get there, the BYU offense is going to be just fine.
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That'd be absolutely huge. Of course, he does have a pretty nice guy to hand the ball to who is back at LJ Martin, you know, reigning Big 12 Offensive Player of the year. Like this run game should be pretty nasty if the offensive line, you know, can, can avoid a drop off. They did take what, three portal editions, which I will now embarrass myself trying to pronounce so final. Got that. Thanks. Tony Sia and then Yamushi.
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I think so. I mean, on that one. Zach, I'm calling him Zach because your guess is as good as mine. But, but, but you're right, it does come down to the offensive line. They feel pretty good about the tackle spot. Andrew Gentry comes back at right tackle. They're actually taking Pocky Finau. I think he played inside at Washington. They've kicked him out to left tackle, which I think is Probably a better fit. That's where he was recruited by most schools initially, is as a tackle, and he played pretty well in the spring. It all comes down to what combination do they use on the interior, especially in this, this offensive scheme. Those guards have got to play really well and they've got to be athletic with this zone blocking schem, wide zone running scheme. They've got six guys, and that's, you know, maybe that's good. You like the depth. But they don't have a 1, 2 and 3 yet either. So it's kind of that, you know, chicken and an egg kind of thing. If you have six guys, you have depth. That feels great, but also you need chemistry. You need somebody to step up. If you have six guys who probably should be backups, that's not great either, right? So they feel okay. Bruce Mitchell was an all Big 12 center. He'll come back in the middle of it all. But those two guard spots, there's four or five guys vying for starting reps. BYU rotated a little bit at guard last year, and I don't think they love doing that. I think that's really kind of an indication that nobody stepped up and really owned that spot. So hopefully that happens this summer.
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Most teams don't do a lot of the offensive line rotations. There's a couple, but it's. I think it's pretty rare. And it's probably more rare that it actually works out, you know. All right, now, pass catchers, we saved some time because this I have a lot of questions about. So Chase Roberts is gone, obviously, Kingston's gone. They bring in Kyle Casper from Oregon. Like, is it he or JoJo Phillips as, like, like the clear cut one? Is there like a freshman or returner that I, you know, I'm not banking on that. Maybe, you know, obviously, hey, there's a reason why the expert on. Right. You know, I'm just curious. And then also, like, on the tight end side, they bring a Walker, Lyons, you know, which, you know, and, oh, shoot, what was.
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They took a kid out of Oregon. They bring him in too. So, yeah, I mean, starting with that tight end spot. Carson Ryan was a dog for BYU last year. He was fantastic. And they brought in two guys that they feel can. Can do a lot of what. What Carson Ryan brought to the table. Aaron Roderick, if you go way back in time, he had Isaac Rex and Dallin Holker in the same offense, and they ran a lot of 12 personnel when they had both of them there, I think you'll see a lot of two tight end sets from byu. Sally Apoga and Lions are both just really good, and Aaron Roderick knows how to get the ball to tight end. So I think you're going to see them on the field a lot. That receiver spot's a huge question mark. I think for everybody in Provo, they've got the same question that you do. Jojo Phillips makes sense. He probably would have had a really big role last year. There were some injuries early in the year and he never really got back to full strength. Kyler Casper looked fantastic in the spring, and if you go back to what he did at Oregon, I think Oregon wanted to play him. He just couldn't stay healthy. But every time he was healthy, he was in the starting lineup, he was getting some rotations. And then foot injuries came back. And as you know, bud, I mean, the foot injuries, you never know, right? I mean, those come back all the time. So there's some questions there. But there are some young guys that are in the room that BYU really likes. A couple of them. Legend Glasser. He's a local kid out of Utah. He's fast. I mean, he's really good. I think he's got true separation speed at really any level. He's fantastic. But he's a true freshman. It's going to come down to experience how much can he, I guess, how comfortable can he get and how quickly can it happen. Jaron Poola was a late signing day. Flip four star guy. They flipped over from Utah. Utah. He's also very, very good. So there's a couple of guys that they feel really confident that they can emerge. I don't know if they're ready to emerge on week one. So some of those older guys are gonna have to step up.
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It makes sense to me. So, I mean, heavy dose, the run game. More two tight ends. Bachmeyer, you know, improves and, you know, receivers, probably a drop off, but just maybe they mitigate it and the offense keeps, you know, keeps rolling out. They're pretty nice. Okay, that's. That makes sense to me. I can see the vision here. All right, let's hit our second break on the flip side. We'll come back, we'll break down this defense.
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alright, welcome back here to the COVID 3 College Ball podcast. This is summer school. I'm talking to Jeff Hanson, Insider. Let's go man. BYU defense always nasty. We talked about Popinga coming in. Well, not coming in, but just being elevated to the role of defensive coordinator. So you get Tanavasu to not go to the NFL draft, which is like I think a huge win for this defense. Like where else do you think like can he improve and make this jump as a senior and make the decision. You can make the decision to come back a good one as far as, you know, elevating his NFL stock and becoming like a an even better player.
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Yeah, you know, Keanu Tanavas was so good at Utah. Really aggressive. He really shot gaps. He wasn't Much of a stuffer. He was a go make a play kind of guy and he didn't see as much of that last year. I actually think that the biggest reason that Keanu Tanavas is going to have a better year this year is the health of Justin Kirkland. He was another big addition last year. He didn't play most of the year. Big Oklahoma State transfer. He's one of the strongest players in college football. I think he's 330, 320 some odd pounds. He's a big dude. He's that traditional gap stuffer that kind of enables a guy like Tanuvasa to shoot gaps, make some plays and use some of that aggression that he's got. I think now that they're healthy, he's got a true nose. When they, when they run those four man sets out, I think Keanu Tanavas is going to be able to get free, see a few more one on ones and go make some plays. And you also saw, and Keanu even talked about it, that there were times that I think maybe because of the assignment that he was asked to do, he was disengaged. I mean, he just didn't play as hard as he needed to play. When he was engaged, he made plays. And I'm hopeful that in those one on one situations where you, you see that opportunity, it's a little bit more prevalent for a guy, you know, before the ball is snapped, hopefully that engagement. And he's playing hard on every single snap because, man, when he does, he's a special football player, man.
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That's, that's management in any, you know, in any landscape, right? It's like, hey, like I might need you to do this, but if it's not really your skill set, you're probably not, you know, some people are going to be like fired up about it because they're, you know, they're just intrinsically motivated to crush. But like that's not everybody. And you get like that. I understand, I understand that.
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Yeah.
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All right, so they get K Du Valley from. Or I don't know how to say this guy's name. Yeah, okay. Excuse me. From Cal. Like one of the top rated linebacker portal kids in the country. Is he like your day one Mike?
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I think so. And exactly how they use him, you know, that, that's a little bit to be determined. But I think he's that guy that replaces Jack Kelly who will be playing on Sundays this year. And frankly, I don't know that they could have found a better replacement for Jack Kelly. Kelly had the closing speed, but I think that Uluwave brings a level of discipline maybe that Jack Kelly didn't have. But in terms of production and what you're going to see, yeah, I think those assignments are going to be really similar. Cade, man, his ability to step in, I think learn this defense. You saw it throughout spring ball, he got there really fast. I don't think it's super complicated what assignments he has. It's go out there and make plays. And he is a playmaker. You saw that throughout his career at Cal. And I think BYU's coaches hearing them this spring, they're really confident that he just steps right into that role. And then you flank him. With Isaiah Glasker and Ciale Sarah coming back, that's a really good linebacker room once again for BYU.
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Oh, 100. And like you, you look on this schedule, there's a number of teams that are, want to, want to run the ball, you know, run with physicality. Like they're going to need those guys for sure. That's, that's going to be big. You know, secondary, I feel like is probably the most turnover coaching wise. But like, how does this look personnel wise to you?
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You know, it's the, I guess at the starting line you feel great. At corners you've got Trey Alexander coming back, Evan Johnson coming back. Evan Johnson won a couple of games for byu. He was fantastic. Then you go back into the safety position with Raider demuni, who probably replaces Tanner Wall and is one of those starting safeties and the volatile Satiwala man. I mean, he's just a playmaker. Every chance he gets, he's going to play on Sundays as well. You feel great about those four. Now there's some questions about depth, and that's one area. BYU lost J. Hill you mentioned, but they lost Gennaro Guilford. He'd been there for 10 years as the cornerback coach and every time he'd get worried about the corners going into a season, there was always this like secondary voice. As long as Gennaro's there, they're okay. Well, Gennaro's not there anymore, so now you have to worry about that depth. I know that there's some players they feel really confident in. Jordan Crisp being one of them. Taven Johnson transfers in for Mississippi State. They feel good, but until you see it on the field, you just don't know. But that those top line guys, those starters, they feel great. You're just going to kind of, you know, grit your teeth a little bit and hope that health cooperates. For byu, at least for the first half of the season while other guys get assimilated into the swing of things
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a little behind the curtain on. Because we do the late night recap always on, you know, on cover three. And it's really impossible to watch all the games in full. Right? And like, I feel like we do a good job of saying, I didn't watch this. We're going to pass or hit it Monday in a pond for the review. But I have a buddy who has a hookup for like the coaching login, so I can watch film and you can actually watch it like play by play by play by play by play and then like sort it like by epa, you know, so like you're really just like, all right, let me watch. You know, if there's including like special teams and penalties or there was 190 plays in this game. We watched like the most impactful 80, you know, like, I don't need to watch kickback touch, you know, kickoff touchbacks and whatnot. When you sort it by like EPA and then you watch like offense and Satsuala, man, I was like, who is this number? Is he number four? What? What number is he? Like, like number 11. Man, I was like, this kid is different.
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He's unreal. He. He's a guy that. He really came to BYU because of J. Hill. And when Jay Hill left, everyone just assumed like, yeah, Volatile is going to follow him for sure. He didn't. He decided to stick around. A man, what a win for Kalani and for byu. He's a difference maker. I mean, he's the kind of guy that, that wins games for you. BYU doesn't get guys like that every single year. So when they have a guy, they're going to find ways to highlight him. That's one thing that I'm really kind of excited about. Maybe this, this Kelly Pippinga flavor. If you go back to that Bronco Mendenhall defense, I go back to a guy like Kai Nakua, Puka's older brother that he played at BYU, you know, how long ago ago now, 14 years ago. But Kai was brought up at all levels of the defense. He was getting sacks and TFLs. He led the team in interceptions. They just said, go make plays because you're really good. I could see Volatile getting a lot of that, that they're going to ask him to do whatever it takes to win some games that might be getting after the passers, some games that. That's going to be coverage. And Volatile has proven, man, he. He can do every single one of
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those things that he's asked, man, no doubt. Like, yeah, I. Because there's no sound on that copy, right? So I was like, like, okay, who's. Who is 11? Like, 11 is coming up all the time. And I was like, oh, wow. O. This kid is. Is different. Schedule is not easy, though. Certainly there no Texas Tech. But, I mean, you get Notre Dame coming to Provo October 17th, first time in, like, more than two decades from. least from what I could find. Yeah. Looking at it, what does that game mean inside the program and for byu?
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Man, it's huge. Look, BYU has always tried to compare themselves a little bit to Notre Dame, right? I mean, I think the connections and the comparisons make a lot of sense. But BYU's never measured up to Notre Dame, right? And so when they have those opportunities to show that, hey, that gap isn't as far as people want to believe that it is, they get up for it, man. And Notre Dame, there's. There's some extra fan feelings about it. Notre Dame was supposed to return to Provo a few years ago. They canceled that return trip. Then they bow out of the Pop Tarts Bowl. You know, BYU fans obviously going to look for an opportunity to feel slighted, and they did. Now they're here. Now they're coming to Provo in October. That game's going to be electric. Lavelle Edwards Stadium is always great. That game's going to be huge. It's, you know, the. One of, if not the biggest game at BYU in 15, 20 years. I mean, it's a huge opportunity. And from a player standpoint, a coaching standpoint, I don't think that this team feels intimidated by anybody. I know that Kalani Satake doesn't feel intimidated by anybody. They're going to be up for that game, and they're going to look to make a statement not only for BYU, but for the. For the Big 12. That really doesn't have very many opportunities to make those national statements this year.
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That's going to be an absolute banger. I'm really excited to watch that one that they also play at TCU. They got Iowa State, you know, then like at UCF, which is October 24th, I don't know if that's the space game or not. Like, that's that kind of one game UCF gets up for, you know, quite a bit. So you've done such a great job. Profile all the players and how they're going to mesh with the coaches. Is there a guy you haven't mentioned or just, you know, kind of just mentioned in passing because we don't think like he's going to be counted on to be, you know, a big time guy for them this year. But if something happens between now and the season, or maybe now and early in the season, to where all of a sudden it clicks, maybe he's actually way ahead of schedule and he's got that really high potential. Is there a guy that we haven't hit on heavily who you're like, oh, that would change what I think about this team a lot.
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Yeah, there's a couple that immediately come to mind. BYU has lacked that true edge rusher for the last couple of years. Tyler Batty a few years ago kind of I, I don't think he ever took that step that people hoped this year BYU's got a guy, a new ctomoy payout that, that he showed some flashes last year. He had hurries, right. I don't think he converted very many of them into sacks. He was just a step late. But he was a true freshman that really shouldn't have played, got on the field because of injuries and immediately was like, whoa, this, this kid's different. That first step is, is different if he takes a step forward and there's another guy, Braxton Lindsay, who's kind of in the same boat off of that edge, if that, if those two guys can take a step forward and really that position group as a whole to help out the inside of that defense, to help out those linebackers and to make BYU's defense more of a pass rush threat. I mean that's been the one thing that I think you saw. Texas Tech really exploited that when they needed to. They could sit and take all day long to pass and they knew that they didn't have to respect that very much. So BYU was susceptible a lot of draw plays, counter runs as well because they, nobody respected the pass rush. And I, I think as those guys come forward and step up into bigger roles, that changes the way that, that you have to, to I guess defend against the BYU defense. Right. The way that you have to game plan. So Nusi Tamoy Payow. He's, he's probably the guy I'm watching the closest because I think he's the closest to making that step to becoming a really dynamic pass rusher for byu.
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Jeff. Awesome man. Really enjoyed this and what we'll be following your work all year long and I'll see you soon, man.
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Date: May 16, 2026
Host: Bud Elliott (CBS Sports)
Guest: Jeff Hansen (Cougar Sports Insider)
In this “Cover 3 Summer School” episode, Bud Elliott sits down with Jeff Hansen of Cougar Sports Insider for a comprehensive preview of BYU football heading into the 2026 season. They reflect on the Cougars’ surprising 2025 run to the Big 12 title game, dive deep into offseason changes, player development, new coaches, key transfer additions, offensive tweaks, and looming challenges—especially a much-anticipated home game against Notre Dame. The conversation is spirited and detailed, offering insider insight for BYU fans and college football junkies alike.
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On Head Coach Stability:
“It does feel like Kalani ... he's born to be the head coach at BYU.” (Jeff Hansen, 03:51)
On Defensive Philosophy:
“I think by nature Kelly Poppinga is going to be a little bit more aggressive. Dial up a few more blitz packages than J. Hill was.” (Jeff Hansen, 05:29)
On Quarterback Growth:
“You saw little sprinkles added throughout the season as he got a little bit more and more comfortable, but you really didn't see [Roderick] unleash Bachmeier … until the bowl game.” (Jeff Hansen, 08:17)
On Key Defensive Returning Talent:
“He's that traditional gap stuffer [Justin Kirkland] ... I think Keanu Tanuvasa is going to be able to get free, see a few more one-on-ones and go make some plays.” (Jeff Hansen, 17:18)
On Volati Satiwala:
“He’s the kind of guy that wins games for you. BYU doesn’t get guys like that every single year.” (Jeff Hansen, 22:18)
On Young Players to Watch:
“BYU’s got a guy, a new Nusi Tamoy Payow ... if he takes a step forward … that changes the way that you have to defend against the BYU defense.” (Jeff Hansen, 25:36)
The 2026 BYU Cougars are loaded with optimism but face real transition points—especially at receiver, offensive line, and defensive coaching staff. Strong player leadership, a proven development system at QB, and stars returning on both sides give reason for excitement. October’s Notre Dame showdown stands out as a true “program moment.” Young talent and transfer additions could take BYU from Big 12 contender to national spotlight—if everything clicks.
A must-listen episode for Cougar fans and anyone seeking a deep dive into a rising program navigating the modern college football landscape.