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And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fernow, that's Bud Elliott, that's Danny Cannell. I'm Chip Patterson coming to you live@YouTube.com cover3 and everywhere you get your podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe Smash that like and come and join us in the chat, aka the COVID 3 tailgate where Thomas pulled up in the parking lot, cracked the cold one and said happy opening Day to all who celebrate. Couple of baseball questions for you Tom. How did you become a Giants fan and have you placed your World Series future on the White Sox yet? Before you get to that time, also shout out Will. He's feeling the vibes as well. Any Cover three guys, big MLB fans, who's going to win it all? We've got opening day, Sweet 16 games and a mailbag episode. What a great Thursday, Will. I agree with you Tom. I'll let you go first. First crack on this. I know we've got some other MLB fans here amongst us, so. So what do we think?
C
Tom, I I grew up a White Sox fan, but in the era of MLB TV when I was in like college and just out of college, I had an MLB TV account and like late night I would start watching games and I watched a lot of Giants games because at the time Barry Bonds was going through the whole home run chase. So I was following that every single night. And I just kind of adopted the Giants as like my second team, my National League team at late night team. And then before last season I decided I was done with the White Sox because I'm very, just grew tired of their ownership and what they were doing and I just became a Giants fan full time and it was most enjoyable baseball season I've had in years. But yeah, no, I have not bet on the White Sox this year. I don't suggest anybody bets on the White Sox unless you're taking the under on their win total or on the amount of money they're going to spend or their interest in even trying to win.
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I mean this question debate, right? Like you got four 40 year old white dudes on a podcast. Like you don't think we're in opening day? I was, I was watching that Chipper Jones clip of, of him talking about like the, the new curse words that Bobby Cox was inventing when, when Bonds in that series against the braves went like 4 for 4 with 4 bombs and 8 walks. We could pitch. It was like. No, we can't remember. Was it back to, back to back walk offs like three days in a row? Yeah, it was something just you know, he's like, he'd get one strike a night and he would hit into the water. Yeah, I'm, I'm super pumped. I'm a little annoyed. Like shouldn't we have a noon game?
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Yes.
C
Yeah, the Giants are in Cincinnati but they're not playing till 4 Eastern.
B
What the hell is that?
A
Give me a new game.
D
Like this is. We only had tournament games until tonight, right?
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Yeah.
D
So this is kind of a missed opportunity. Like I, how many dudes in our office would throw on a game like I would, I'd probably be like doing like this like, like you know, like we do during Saturday night pods.
C
Yeah, I'm legit shocked. Like the Yankees game is in it.
D
Like noon, but it's at three right Eastern. Yeah, like you could play that at noon.
B
But I'm surprised you, you listen much to the Atlanta Braves most overrated player of all time, Chipper Jones. I can't believe that.
D
Are we picking a fight with Chip? There we go.
B
No, I kid he's incredible. Incredible player. I was, I, I, Baseball was my favorite sport to play still like probably to this day I would say if you ask Me what sport I love playing the most. It was baseball. Fit my personality. Loved it. My year playing minor league baseball is probably the most fun that I've ever had. It's hard for me to watch the game like I am a casual when it comes to baseball. Now I'll watch opening day because it's opening day. But 162 it's hard for me to pay attention. I love playoff baseball. I think maybe we're spoiled from the atmospheres and the crowds but some of the crowds you get to play off baseball they would rival a lot of college football stadiums. But I'm a Yankees fan. Growing up where they used to come to spring training, used to go down there and watch them play at Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale. But as far as like the baseball grind, it's just too. And, and plus we have to talk about so many sports and pay attention to so many things. I'll like check in. Very, very casual though for me for baseball.
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I've learned to love it as an adult. It was. I mean it's like North Carolina doesn't have a team. I've always loved going to the Durham Bulls games. I didn't want to jump on the Braves or you know, jump on the Orioles like a lot of North Carolinians do. But then, you know, day baseball probably got me hooked. Right. I mean working in this job when you're just sitting in the office and all summer long when you're working on your off season projects and you just throw a day baseball game on, that's. That's kind of gotten me in. So that's, that's been my avenue. So we're. We're all in on Bobby Witt home run plus 575 here on day. Let's go. Let's take it live. All right. Lots to get to today. I gave at the end of yesterday's episode the. The mailbag question that is in the headline right here. We're going to have a little bit of fun talking about how you would spend $10 million to sabotage your biggest rival. That got some great suggestions in the tailgate. We all will have our suggestions as well. We're also going to be looking at if you were to create a Frankenstein recruiting monster, what elements of different schools would you use to be able to create just the, the absolute best possible super university? And a lot of other questions from the big old bag of mail as well from the tailgates. But I was glad somebody in the tailgate mentioned it because I knew I wanted to do it as well. Jerry jumped in at 8:20am wishing Gary Daniel best in retirement. CBS replacing one great with another. Charles Davis is the perfect replacement. Yes, the news came out yesterday. Gary Danielson will be a part of CBS's booth for the 2025 season. Then in 2026, he steps aside and Charles Davis, who has been part of the NFL package, moves into that at that Big Ten on cbs, that CBS lead college football, that booth along with Brad Nestler, along with our friend Jenny Dell. I, Gary Danielson. If you have been a subscriber to this podcast feed, Gary Danielson used to be a regular contributor here and like him putting up with me was heroic and honestly worth being in the hall of Fame for for what he did years and years and years ago. Every single Tuesday, he'd pick up the phone with me and we'd talk about the SEC on cbs game of the week of that week. And it would be a lot of me pitching a question and I'd hear a lot of, I don't know before he goes on to tell me everything that I was wrong about and, you know, misled about, you know, and so I, I have always appreciated, you know, my, my relationship, but just, you know, wanted to spend some time appreciating Gary Danielson, you know, what he's meant here at CBS and for college football in general.
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So you're telling me he didn't think it was hilarious? Like, if you said, hey, Gary, wouldn't it be hilarious if not, did not. Did not come back with, he is, he's an absolute voice of the game. I go back, you know, when you played as a player and Gary Danielson was on the broadcast, you're like, oh, this is a big game. What he's meant. And then really became, you know, sort of a face of the SEC almost. When CBS had the SEC package for so long, him and Vern working together, and he and Brad do a great job, too, but he's going to be missed as one of the voices of the game. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Like you said, takes time for everybody. And I do think Charles is like the perfect replacement for him to step in to be a really seamless transition for Charles to get in there again. Another one of the nicest, smartest guys you'll ever meet in the business. So proud to call those guys colleagues that we can work alongside under the same umbrella and excited to watch them both, you know, Gary finish out and Charles starting up in a year.
D
Yeah, I do go Ahead.
C
I was just gonna say echo a lot of what you both have said. I'm just. I'm hurt that I wasn't even asked or considered to replace him. That's all.
D
So I. I do radio on Miller Moulton, like, the Southwest Florida show every. Every Wednesday during the season, and Gary has the spot right before me. And, like, Gary Sharp, man. And I don't always agree with what he says, but I know he does put the work in. And I think that's kind of the same thing for Charles, which is really kind of what you want. Like, you want the broadcaster to be additive, I think, to the experience, like, noticing things maybe you didn't notice, probably not have, like, a crazy, annoying voice. So, like, those are our check and check, you know, right there. And. And also be entertaining. So I. Yeah, I. I think that's. That's pretty solid for us. That's when I saw. I was like, yeah, there we go. Nice pick.
C
It's not. When you watch enough games, it is not difficult to figure out who puts in work and who doesn't. Who just.
D
Yes.
A
Yes, the.
D
And who used to be like. Or like, like who. There's some guys, like, used to. And then, like, got stretched too thin.
C
Mm.
D
You know, I. I think Mayock has talked about this. The guy used to be on NFL Network. Like, when he first came out, he was super, like, had time to actually, like, get, you know, get in depth. And then, like, when he started doing a million TV things, it's like, when you have time.
A
Gary also very obviously someone who was a trusted sounding board from some of the coaches because he was always his. His personnel evaluation. Some of that's tape, but some of that's like, oh, we talked to the coaches and they said, this guy is going to be doing this thing and keep, like, that's those sorts of details right there. This is the relationships, right? Because I. I have not been in the production meetings. Danny, you have been in the production meetings, so you need to be able to have a good back and forth with the head coach for them to be able to give you things that are going to be helpful. And it can be incredibly important, not just your. Your prep of the. Of the tape, but being able to ask the right questions and being. Being able to prepare that way. Gary Danielson was fantastic, for sure.
B
And being able to weed out the coaches that are just going to say only good things about their players or, you know, like, trying to decipher what information is actual truth versus them protecting a player, selling a player, whatever it.
D
Might be, yeah, the, the chat does not think that Gary put a lot of legwork in for that Notre Dame, Oregon State, Sun Bowl. So honestly, like if I was a broadcaster that long career and that was the knock.
C
Who the hell is even playing for Notre Dame in that game?
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Oh, Steve Angelic.
C
He's terrible.
A
That's, that was, I was going back and looking at Notre Dame coaching staff talking about the quarterback bat at the competition and it was like, well, he's got a lot of experience, you know, obviously the bowl game. And I was like, wow. Pulling two years ago Sun bowl experience for 2025 spring practice. Okay, okay. You know, anything to do it. So yeah, we'll have all season to celebrate Gary and, and we will, you know, maybe even reach out to him, see if he wants to jump back on the show. TBD on that one. I don't know, I might have scared him off.
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Can we pull up Brian's comment? Because that is a pretty good one.
A
Which one?
B
About Jim Nance. Like he could have done that. He's going one more year for a swan song. But Jim Nance did. He's going an 11 year retirement run, eyeing the 2036 Masters as his final scheduled call.
A
Listen, that's what I'm gonna do.
B
I'm gonna give you guys right now, I'm gonna give you 2046. We'll go another solid 20 and then I'll be retirement age here on cover three.
C
Jim didn't announce it. He was asked about it and he just gave his answer. It's like my plan is to go to the hundredth Masters and everybody, it's like.
A
Yeah, it's, I mean that. Listen, I, I, I appreciate someone who sets goals, you know.
B
Yeah.
A
And that's if you can, if you can make it to the hundredth Masters. Not you but like any, you know, any of us. Yeah.
C
My plan is football playoff.
A
Yeah.
B
So we're 100 teams.
A
How many? Oh, this is a good one. Hey, just off the top, they need five more. Danny, y' all think we will see and this doesn't really pertain to colle but it might start to have trickle down effect. You think we're going to start to see more schools leave division one?
C
Yeah, yeah. I don't like I, but I don't know but like I don't think we're going to see it at the FBS level of football. Like maybe we'll see one or two.
A
Drop to FCS maybe.
C
Yeah, like within the next few years. But I think just like what St. Francis is doing it now. They're going down to D3. I think when you look at college basketball, there are 364 teams currently in the first division. I don't think that's going to be the case much longer.
D
I don't want to say much here because it's not like it's a friend of mine in the industry who's working on a story and I'm not gonna, like, you know, blow his story up. But, yeah, I do. I. I think that St. Francis will not be the last.
A
Should people subscribe to extra points? Yeah, okay.
C
Yes, exactly.
B
No, I think it's a very real concern. I think it's a very real concern. I mean, this is something I don't think is a shock to anybody, but I do think it's something that is very concerning. We. We talked to Davidson. Steph Curry was given a bunch of money back to them, and he took that, you know, general manager role with the school. So we had their athletic director on the radio show and we were asking him about, are you opting in to the Rev share? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, our conference as a whole is committed to trying to, you know, to. To living up to that, you know, commitment and opting into it. I don't know if that's the case for everybody. He kind of alluded to that. He goes, there are going to be some. Some collateral damage here with the new landscape of college athletics.
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Yeah, the A10, which Davidson again has moved up. You know, we talked about the, like you say, lack of Cinderella, but Houston was in the American Athletic Conference not that long ago. BYU is in the West Coast Conference not that long ago. This thing is conference consolidation as much as anything else. You know, Arizona wasn't a Big 12 team. The. Oh, my gosh, there's only four conferences represented in the suite 16. Well, this is sort of what's happening. Davidson moves up from the Southern Conference into the Atlantic 10. Atlantic 10 is trying to be one of those conferences that says, hey, we are all in on rev Share. That's where VCU is. VCU is trying to make that thing happen. But, yeah, it was. I. I think the spending is going to drive some. Drive some shifting in the opposite direction after both. The FBS level has grown and grown and grown over the last decade. Division one has grown and grown and grown over the last decade. So, yeah, just a little. Little something to. To keep your eye on here moving forward. If we do make it to the 30th College Football Playoff. I wonder how many teams will be in said College Football Playoff division by the time we get there. Coming up on the other side. We teased it yesterday. We're excited to hear from you. And us. If you were given $10 million, what is the best way to sabotage your biggest rival? All that and more. Next.
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Why?
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First.Com back here on the COVID 3 podcast. We love our Thursday shows at this time of year because it is, among other things, a great chance to be able to keep the conversation going, be a chance to reach out to you and talk about college football things serious and otherwise. This is probably otherwise. So let's head down to the mailroom. This question comes from Charles and it's the old fashioned way. Five Star Mailbag gave us a five star review and in that review he put this question with the headline on the review Spite. Charles writes. Hi fellas. Would like to hear your thoughts on this scenario. A group of donors is willing to proceed is willing to donate the proceeds of their next tax cut, let's say $10 million to their favorite athletic department. They are willing to donate to their favorite athletic department for the 2025 season. But unfortunately their football team is starting a multi year rebuild. So instead these donors decide to spend their money saving, sabotaging their biggest rival who has their best shot at a championship in decades. What would be the best way to spend the money to prevent their rival from winning the national championship? Do they sprinkle million dollar payments on the on 10 opponents do they focus on spending to improve a top few teams? Do they pay the refs? How do they do it? Charles?
C
I have so many nefarious ideas.
D
Yeah, it's 10 million for one year, right?
A
10 million, one year got to be spent. We're trying to do whatever it takes to prevent your biggest rival from winning.
D
And you cannot, you cannot. Can you pay the players on your arrival to tank potentially, I think that's.
A
One of your options.
D
Well, that's the best way to directly make sure they don't win the national title. For 10 million, you got. Some guys are gonna take some else, I guarantee you.
A
Well, I mean, why am I blanking.
D
On the wrestler's name that everybody's got a price. Million Dollar man, right?
C
Million Dollar Man. Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
Is that, that's not Biase, is it?
C
Ted DiBiase.
D
Yes. Yeah. Right. So I think like to make this more interesting, we should get that out of the way because that, that to me was the most obvious one, but it's not that fun.
A
Well, I don't know if you can. I. I know everybody's got a price. I think that $10 million, if you consider what some of the players on a national championship contender are making, is it enough?
B
I don't know if it's enough.
A
I don't think you do it too. I don't think $10 million is enough to buy off the whole team.
C
It's enough to buy off the offensive.
D
I don't need. I just need to buy out the long snapper.
C
Yeah.
D
Two special teams turnovers and you're asking. Yes. Right. Like, bro, I here, I'm gonna spend three minute long snapper. I need two. I need two snaps to go over the guy's head, assuming he's had a clean year. You're not going to yank them for one bad snap in the natty. The time the second one sails over like. Special teams turnovers are like the most debilitating types of turnovers. Boom, that's done. I'll keep the other seven for myself.
B
I thought ten was a lot. I don't think cheaper than that. I thought you could buy your rival all really nice fast cars and then like just put them like an hour from a major metropolitan city where there's like great parties and strip clubs and stuff. And then you just hope they all got into, you know, speeding tickets and.
C
So are you a Florida or Auburn fan?
D
Yeah, I was gonna say, like. So Saban owns the Mercedes dealerships, right?
B
Yes, he does.
A
What?
D
Coach owns all the Dodges.
C
I spoiler alert. Do you guys watch Yellowstone?
D
Yeah.
C
All right. So in the last season, how much would it cost to have. What happened to Kevin Costner in the first episode. How much does that cost? Because then, you know, how many guys could I have taken out?
B
Oh, man. So you're taking out the quarterback, the best defensive end, the best. Like, the best path. The bed. Top ten, probably a million bucks a man. You get ten of their players out or.
C
Or maybe like a week or two before the season starts. Because coaches make 10 million a year. That's not. You can't. You can't get the head coach. The coordinators don't make 10 million a year. What if I go to your offensive coordinator, your defensive coordinator, your strength coach, and offer them a whole hell of a lot of money to join my staff as an analyst? You don't have to do any recruiting. You can just hang. Strength coach. You'll be the assistant. You know, you'll get. Offer them basically 200 raises to come join my coaching staff just before the season starts.
A
See, you guys are being reckless. You guys are spending way too much money in one place. That's how you get.
C
I'm a college football booster. That's what I do.
A
Fair, fair, Fair. I. I think it's small. The margin for winning a national championship is so small that you can do this by. With, like, little chips along the way. You know, like, it. It just takes the tiniest little. It takes a small payment to a manager to drop laxatives in those Gatorade bottles right before a college football playoff semifinal. Because if this really is my rival and if I want them to truly feel painful, I want them to make it to the playoff. I want them to feel like they've got it within their grips. I want. If something nefarious is going to happen, I want it to happen, I don't know, around the team hotel in one of the, like, the biggest playoff games of the year. I want it to be something that is so unsettling, it creates all kinds of disruption. So I think that, like, a simple purchase of one coach, purchase of one player, especially if it happens before the year, that's too much money to not create some sort of investigation and potentially get yourself caught. But a lot of very, very small negative impacts that I can do with $10 million to be able to derail my rival's chances to win. I kind of think that's got to be the play.
C
You're accusing us of being reckless when you're going to spend all this money just so you can get a couple screenshots of dudes pooping their pants.
A
No, I hadn't even thought about how hilarious that would be. Now I. Now I'm doubling down.
D
Gentlemen, I want to show you my top secret plan right here.
A
You're pulling up in it from your Nike coach of the year like handout name Asparagus.
D
I'm gonna bring back the Jeremy Pruitt experience, put away my rival. Because you know what that pretty much guarantees you? You ain't going to. Well, really? Anything? Definitely not a bad.
A
Yeah. Is that the Connor Stallion's manifesto that you've got right there?
D
Wait, do you really?
A
Let's see. What, what. Anything else that we hadn't talked. Oh, let me pull some. I grabbed some early. Here we go. Alex. Hire multiple private investigators to just go watch their program and put together a dossier and spread it to the media.
B
Don't work anymore.
C
Yeah, it takes.
A
Nobody cares.
B
Yeah, four years later, they'll take away a win or two.
A
All right, Corey, here's how I'm sabotage. He's a. He's a pit fan. Here's how I'm sabotaging Penn State. I'm taking the $10 million yesterday, taking off the AP voters to make Nevada and FIU top five.
B
That's an all timer that is exceptionally well done.
A
I mean look, if Nevada and FIU are top five teams, Penn State ain't beating them, you know, so the AP voters declare them top five teams. That's a pretty good one. Jim, hack their helmet comms and Rick, roll the quarterback on crucial third down red zone plays. Yeah, let's see.
B
I was thinking you hire. You hire some hacker named Big Balls and you have them come in and you hack into your opponents iPads, playbooks and you steal all their information and then you use it and give it out to every single opponent on the schedule.
A
I mean I think wakey leaks happened for free. I don't remember Exactly.
B
I think 10 million. I don't think you need 10 million.
A
Yeah, I think. I think that giving away secrets about Wake Forest football team happened out of spite again. That was like. Did not cost a whole lot. I guess the man, the man who lost his job, you know, once it was finally. Finally discovered. But that's. That's another good one. Oh, fake girlfriend.
B
Yeah, you could hire. You could. You could get like 50 fake girlfriends and have like the whole team catfished.
A
Catfish scandal.
B
How much is a cavender twin? That was pretty good from Christopher in the chat.
A
Let's see.
B
Deflate the diss track or. That wasn't a diss track. It's a dis. Sing along like with the. With the cavender. She's singing along to a song that's about a dude who was cheating on her and people were telling her and like it's. She's all done up, looking good, like smiling, saying, you know, you're a loot. Like it's good. It was well done.
A
What was the. Put my key into the side of central, picked up four wheel drive.
B
No, that would have been a great one. That would have been a great one. It was like a rap song. So it was like a rap. It was not a Carrie Underwood.
A
Carrie Underwood.
B
That would have been epic though. She would have done that.
A
Put my key in.
B
She could have videoed herself right along the Lambo that got stolen.
A
Like, oh my gosh.
D
Into the street, that video.
B
I think Carrie Underwood like trashes an F150 or something. She trashes a car.
A
That's what.
B
That would be good.
C
You guys are making fun of them. I'm praying for those too.
D
That's.
C
That's young love. I hope it survives these trials and tribulations.
A
I'm not using my prayers there.
B
I think it's too late.
A
Yeah, I. What'd you. Danny, I know you passed it along. What'd you make a Gunner Stockton getting. Getting asked about Carson Beck and if. If he found out when he found out Carson Beck was transferring to. To Miami.
B
I am telling you and I don't think it's only Gunner Stockton. I think there was no love lost for the whole entire team when Carson Beck said he was leaving. And even for that matter when he didn't play and he got hurt. I just think. I don't want to be too mean do it but I do think that quarterback room is going to be a lot less douchey.
D
Yeah.
B
But I did have the question, has a balding quarterback ever won a national championship? Because my man, yes, he has. Hawk Bowers need to go like see somebody. Who's the last balding. Who would you say who would qualify?
D
Chris Winky.
C
Chris Winky.
B
But Wanky's bald now. But was he balding? He was. Yeah, I guess he was like.
C
He was like 45 at the time by the way.
D
Like that.
A
That.
D
Getting drafted pretty high up in baseball, investing your money in tech stocks around the dot com boom. Retiring from pro baseball and going to be a 20, 26 year old freshman in Tallahassee is probably not the worst college experience you could. You could draw up. I'm just saying like that, you know.
C
And you don't have to worry about it all being aired out on Instagram at the time.
D
Right? Yes. Before smartphones. Yeah.
A
I was gonna say the fact that Carson Beck had been allegedly screenshotted with all these times across all this Snapchat. Now we've got Gunter Stockton who said he, he saw it on the stuff. I mean that's like Bill Belichick saying Snap face. Yes, exactly. He is, he is age and I think this is great for Georgia football to be able to have somebody who just calls social media the stuff and he's just out there to play ball.
B
That's why he's playing. He's not belching.
D
Has a Snapchat now. Right.
C
I'm sure what's her name's running it for.
D
Yeah, like, I mean like you don't date a 25 year old, not have Snapchat. Right.
C
Who's older?
B
Snapchat a recruiting tool. I've. Is Snapchat a recruiting tool or any social media? I guess you could, but I mean.
C
There'S a certain type of recruiting I feel people have done on Snapchat.
A
I, if, if it's gotten to the point, and I do know it has, that coaches are getting on Xbox Live as a recruiting tool to be able to communicate with players, then yeah, everything's fair game, right?
C
Yes.
D
Yes.
A
Okay.
D
I found the, I, I found the winky photo.
A
Of current or of like.
D
Of, of Florida State on, on picture day. So he. Yeah, there's no helmet on.
C
Oh, he was, he was balding.
D
Yeah. Like Bowden's got about as much of a hairline.
B
It's true.
A
All right, let's, let's keep things moving here on the mailbag. You can get the winky photo.
D
No, I put it in private chat.
A
Okay.
D
I'm logging on the 24.7Stream yard still. So I don't have access to our streamyard. All right. Because I got to manage the storage.
A
All right. This question came in from the five star mailbag. When I was growing up, I really wanted to go to Stanford. I thought the combination of education and location was unbeatable. Then I learned that no one really cares about football at Stanford. Timely. Unfortunately. My question is if you could create a school combining the elements of other schools to essentially create the greatest recruiting powerhouse in college football, what elements would you choose from? What elements would you choose from? From what schools? My idea was to use non nil things used in recruiting pitches like education, the location of the school or the campus, the team History or the culture, uniforms and stadium. For example, I think a recruiting pitch that included Stanford education, Stanford campus, Alabama's team history, Michigan's uniform, and would have the chance to play in Tiger Stadium would be an impossible offer to turn down.
D
This is a fun one.
B
This is a good one. It's more a traditional old school. Like what's the best. Best setup you could possibly have?
A
Right.
B
Mixing and matching.
A
Right.
B
Facilities. Do you go Oregon? I mean, everybody. Everybody has them. Is there one that stands above all the rest?
D
I don't know if it's like Oregon's pretty sick still.
C
I would think. Yeah.
D
Texas redid theirs, which is pretty nice. That doesn't count. Stadium. Right. Like. Like facilities is different than.
B
Yeah. Locker room. Pratt.
A
You know, because stadium. I probably tie also into the idea of culture. Like stadium culture.
B
Game day atmosphere.
A
Yeah.
B
That lsu.
A
That's lsu.
D
Yeah, probably. I think so.
C
Yeah.
D
Nice.
B
Where do you. Where do you pull the. The fans from? Like, do you go Arizona State? Yeah. You think that's the best fan base?
C
For sure.
D
South Carolina or Nebraska. Like those people show up and root no matter what.
B
Yeah, but what do they look like? Me and Tom are thinking we're on the same level, Tom.
C
We want Arizona State fans.
D
Arizona State. Yes. Okay, that's fair. Yeah. Agreed.
C
Education.
B
You might go Arizona State for the weather or maybe USC for the weather. Like if you could pull in the weather of a game day sky with the Pasadena weather and the mountains in the back.
D
I like UCLA better than USC for weather man.
B
For the Rosewell.
D
Just from where it is. Yeah. Yeah.
A
Oh, like in Los Angeles. You would rather be in west.
D
Yeah, yeah.
B
It's a better neighborhood, wouldn't you?
A
UCLA campus slash weather.
B
Yeah.
A
Right now I've got Oregon facilities, LSU stadium and game day environment. UCLA campus slash weather.
C
Education. Which school has the best general studies program?
A
I would. You've got.
D
Used to be Marshall because I could get like anybody in the country in like. Like Liam just got accepted. But now they. I think they've changed from that stuff. Shadow booster support. Bama under saving. Right. For sure. We call it booster support or the infrastructure.
A
The infrastructure of the entire banking industry in the state of Alabama funding a football program.
C
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
All right, so. All right, so booster support. I think you have to go Alabama. Okay. Alabama boosters. Because what about.
B
What about the most supportive fans? Like if there was a culture that was the most positive, upbeat. Is there one? Does it even exist?
D
Nebraska.
A
Nebraska, South Carolina. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Showing up no matter what. Like the. The reason why those fans Trash us is because we don't see it clearly enough about how good things are going to be, you know? Yes, Iowa would be another good nomination here.
C
Yeah, I, I'd still lean Nebraska, Clemson a bit salty.
A
Clemson fans are just in the press box.
C
Damn. Damn.
D
In the orange overalls.
A
Yeah. All right, what about. Let's see what else was in there. So we got facilities. Game day, campus, slash weather, boosters, fans, location. It's like, where. Where do you want to be to recruit?
D
I think Atlanta.
B
Atlanta is pretty good.
D
Yeah. Like I used to say Miami, but like the, the state of Georgia pays so much more. Like, if you're a good high school coach in Florida, there's a real good chance you're leaving for Georgia in short order. Like, they just pay a lot more for public high schools in Georgia. They do. Florida.
A
Explain that.
D
So, like, the Georgia teachers get paid more than the Florida teachers. And like the good high school coaches in Georgia get paid way more than our good high school coaches down here. Oh, like, like enough to, like, like enough to where if you get an offer, like you're moving your family, like.
A
Like the quality, quality of teaching, quality of coaching, sort of like across the board, like high school football, what you're going to be getting is a little bit different completely.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Because then at all the private schools down in south Florida, it's like two schools down there. There's like the players that are FBS prospects and they are existing in classes and in parts of the campus that are totally different from everybody else that's there.
D
You also don't have quite as much of the insanity as far as transfers in Georgia as you do in Florida. Florida, you can play like seven different high schools in four years.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm trying to think from the question, is there anything else that we were missing here? We've got Oregon facilities, LSU stadium, UCLA campus slash weather, Alabama boosters, Nebraska fans, Atlanta recruiting.
B
I'll submit the ideal coach and the coach that I played for, Bobby Bowden. Give me Bob. Bobby Bowden as the head recruiter.
D
Nice.
A
No, no.
D
Saban's bags. Oh, my God.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, okay, see, now we're starting to Bobby Bowden.
D
He's probably gonna have a stroke.
A
Best uniforms.
B
Oh, this will be conflicting. Because Tom's gonna want boring or he's gonna want 100 year throwbacks that are disgusting.
C
Sorry. We had the best alternate uniform of the year according to voters.
D
Voters.
B
I saw that poll.
C
Damn right you did. Kept you up at night because you realized how wrong you were. Yeah, I like Basic uniforms. So it's. This is very subjective colors.
D
I like Texas all white. Like the, the Texas stormtrooper look is, is really nice. Like that's, that's clean.
B
So we're all not. And going in with the Oregon 87.
C
Oh God.
D
Refer back to beginning of the show. 40 year old dudes celebrating opening day. We're probably not going to be all in on Oregon's uniforms.
B
It's true.
A
Yeah. And definitely not baby blue.
B
That's too soft.
A
Too soft. We need, we need a red. We need a crimson. We need something, we need something that really inspires the. You know, so the bloodthirstiness coming out.
B
When, when Ed O's. He was the one who said blue, right?
A
Was it.
B
I was wrong when he was at lsu. So I bought a T shirt online that says blue and my daughter still wears it to this day. She'll like wear it to school. Like wear it around. I don't even think she knows what it means. She likes the way it fits, I guess. I don't know.
A
USC's uniforms are pretty good.
B
Yeah.
D
Yeah. Especially with the black cleats like Reggie War. Yeah, those are clean.
A
I like that. All right, I think we got. Let's team team history, culture. What's up? Who, who's got the best team history, like program history. Who swings? Who swings?
C
Michigan. Yeah, one of those. I mean they've been around forever.
D
Somebody around like, like pre radio times is probably going to take this somebody.
A
Because the thing that has made both Michigan and Notre Dame a little bit more valuable is the fact that they don't just have to point to pre radio success, that they can also look at all these other things. Michigan winning a national championship. Notre Dame playing for a national championship multiple times in the last 25 years. Like this is, this is something that can connect. It's not. I mean I'm not trying to send a straight here but Minnesota's got three national championships. I think they're all. I think they're all from before World War II.
C
They are.
D
Yeah.
A
Like I. That you've got. You've got that be able to. To connect all the way. All right, so our. So our Frankenstein recruiting monster has organs facilities. LSU's stadium slash game day. UCLA's campus and weather Alabama's boosters, Nebraska's fans, Atlanta recruiting area. Bobby Bowden as a head coach and the program history of Notre Dame and.
C
Michigan and Arizona State student body.
A
An Arizona State student body. Boys, I don't know if we're ever gonna lose.
D
No ever.
B
Just hope we don't get sabotaged by our 10 million dollar bitter spiteful rival.
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Of which there are many. All right, coming up on the other side, if you could go pro in any sport, what would it be? What position? And more next.
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Back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Your questions our answers it is a Thursday here on the COVID 3 podcast. This question came in about two weeks ago from Stephen. Stephen says not exactly a football question, but if you could go pro in any sport, what would it be and what position? I would be a major league center fielder over anything else from Stephen, Go Knowles and go Tigers.
D
Golf.
C
Just think about it like if you play baseball, football, basketball, whatever, your career is going to end in your 30s. Golf, you can play on a senior tour or whatever they're calling it now until you're 67. You play it your entire life and you'll make a bunch of money doing it.
A
I, I don't know, man. I don't need to spend that much time with myself. I need teammates. I, I need like if we're talking about going pro and something I'm doing, I can play golf, right? I could be a baseball player and play golf. I could be, I would not be a backup quarterback. I've always said backup quarterback's the best football position.
C
Yes.
D
Yeah.
A
Relief pitcher. No.
D
Those guys careers are so short.
C
Yeah.
D
Very, very like they very, very rarely get like the big contracts.
A
Okay.
D
Starting pitcher I feel like is.
B
A.
D
Lot of golfers, but they don't have to worry if they're bad at golf that day. Like, I mean I.
B
So it's fun. I remember actually like thinking about this when I was a kid, like dreaming about like, you know, kind of picturing what it would be like for if you want to have like a normal life, like the closest thing. And I was, you know, thinking about like family, like how to have like, you know, be good dad, whatever. Football's the way to go, you know, you don't travel. No question.
A
Yeah.
B
Week routine, you know, nine to five during the week. Sure, it gets a little bit longer, but you only travel eight or nine times a year. You're playing at home. You only have 17 games. It's most realistic from a fun like money, all of it. Let me be a three point specialist in the NBA and like, you don't even have to play all 82. Just. You need some rest. You need a night off.
A
Sure.
B
Need a night off, Go ahead and take it. But you travel to major cities. The treatment's incredible. Guaranteed money. It's the most fun sport to play. You get a lot of recognition because you're not under a helmet. You know, the golf would be hard because you're traveling globally and you're not. You're traveling globally.
A
That gets a little bit.
B
Trust me. I love golf. I would, I would give it a shot if I could, but I do think it'd be a hard sport. Like, I remember they played. They don't have them. And that's been a whole. That's been a whole.
C
So I get to be a millionaire and travel the world. Wow, that sounds freaking awful. And I have to play golf in between. Damn terrible.
B
You got to do practice rounds and pro ams with a bunch of slepts and like play with the fans. Like you never see an NBA guy have to play a little five on five game with that four other hacks that are out there. Hey, what do you think? Can you help me with my jump shot? Like, you don't have to do all that. Just all good options.
A
Yeah.
D
I took both boys golfing yesterday and it was slammed. It was like 60 guys in the nine hole men's game. Because initially it was just going to be just Liam. And then he's like, I don't want to go. Like, okay. So you got to do the thing where like you make him jealous. Hudson. You get to go. He's like, yes. And so Liam's like, wait, no, I'm gonna go. It's like, okay, now did you. We did not play the men's game. We just played the back because like, I can't take them with their 60 guys on the front of the course. Like that's, you know, it's a five hour round.
B
Did you, did you stay for the greatest college baseball moment of the past decade and maybe longer? Because I saw you were at the Florida State. Florida game. You were there for the walk off grand slam, for the cycle.
D
And this clock makes it so you can, you can stay like, like the games are not that long anymore. You know, even an 84 game, like doesn't take forever in college.
C
So they've, they've put the clock in college now too.
D
Yes.
C
Good.
D
Yeah. That's a great stadium. I had never been there. Like the seating is relatively affordable and like there's a big, like there's grass, like benches and then there's like a big berm. And so like Huddie and Liam just like rolled down a bunch of times. They fought each other. Like, you know, Huddy tried to jump into left field one time. That was. I had to kind of yank him.
A
But yeah.
B
Was that. Who's in, Jack? Was it North Florida or was it like a minor league stadium?
D
It's the, the Jumbo Shrimp. I think it's their team. It's, it's pretty cool. It's right next to whatever the Jaguar Stadium is called. Like parking was free and it was actually pretty nice. Like it was like they did it well.
A
Nice. We gotten a, gotten a lot of good questions from the big old bag of mail. Again. You can always reach out there. I want to make sure we give some love to the tailgate, especially those who came early. Coach K33 jumped in at 10:10am Said, who is the quote, worst quarterback to win a title in the last 25 years?
D
Let's pick out, go to Wikipedia on this one. That's 25.
C
I mean, let's see. So we're going back to 2000.
B
I thought one of the more impressive national titles was Bama winning with Jay Coker. I don't want to throw him under.
D
The bus, but Craig Krenzel could be Krenzel. That, that was the one that immediately just like off the dome was, was.
C
Matt Flynn, LSU's QB in 2003.
B
I, I know that was my boy Matt Mock, wasn't it?
C
Was Flynn. Did Flynn Ever win one? I can't remember.
A
Flynn was the 07 team.
C
Okay. I, I think he's in the running. Not, no offense.
D
Jason White.
A
Oh.
D
He did win the Heisman. T. Martin.
C
That's 27 years ago though.
B
Okay.
D
Yeah, we're old but like we'll have.
A
To get your boy.
D
He only won because Chris Winky broke his neck. Like that was what they had like a pick six. Another long interception return in that ball game and did nothing on offense except for like one fearless price catching run. So not that I'm bitter, but you.
A
Think, okay, so Tim Tebow.
B
Oh, shots fired.
A
I think Flynn's a good. We'll have to get Danny. We'll have to get Jacob Hester's, you know, final call on this. But Flynn was the offensive MVP of the national championship game that year. But during the season he was getting swapped out for Ryan Peralu. He was. He earned zero all conference honors the rest of the way. That was a team that was mostly anchored by Glenn Dorsey in a phenomenal defense. Pretty good running game as well. I. Jake Jacob Coker and that offense. Because you remember who Coker's coordinator was. It was Lane.
B
Yeah, that was the first. That.
D
Yeah.
A
Second year. I think Lane was with Blake Sims the year before. And then I think Lane was also there with Coker and he would just, he would scheme up the bombs, right? The. Remember throwing the play card up in the air when you could see it at the bottom of the screen because he knew that it was going to be a touchdown. I think, I think, I think it might be. I think it might be Flynn.
D
I mean, Cardell had like a really good two game run, but I don't think he was like in the top half of players on that Ohio State team.
A
Like, but he wasn't compared to the other.
D
I think he's better than those guys. Yeah.
A
Compared to the other national championship winning quarterbacks. I think that he, I think he gets a, an edge there.
D
I would say Matt Mock is. Matt Mock's a pretty bad one here. I mean, he's somehow. He had a 28 to 14 touchdown interception ratio despite throwing for 64. So that's, that's doing some stuff. Yards per attempt under 8.
B
How about my guy? I think I already threw him under the bus in here one time. I'm not going to do it again. Dr. Matt Mock, by the way, he's a dentist currently. We were on the Broncos together. Remember I told you he lit it up in training camp and practice and the coaches were like blown away. Like, I was like, I thought I was gonna get cut because they liked.
D
Him so much, but yeah, Craig Krenzel, I think that's the one.
A
Okay. All right.
B
You're getting stacked.
D
We got a. We got a solid 55 completions, 15 to 10, touchdown interception ratio, rushing yards, not really. And then we have a 7.3 yards per attempt and egregious 6.8 adjusted net yards per attempt. So that really speaks to how good that defense was for Ohio State and how shameful it was for Miami to lose to that team. Because, I mean, I know Ohio State.
A
Is a good player, but listen, Krenzel was awesome at handing the ball off to Maurice Claret that season. He was fantastic at putting the ball just where it needed to go, into the freshman's belly so that he could, he could get off and go, wait.
B
By the way, the Seattle Seahawks paid Matt Flynn 8 million or something crazy.
C
Pretty much based off of that one game.
B
Yeah.
D
Was that the, Was that the O2 season?
A
What? Which one for? Yeah, Mark would have been the O3 season.
D
Yeah. So I, I read off the better stat line for Kirk Krenzel. It gets worse in the year they actually won the national title.
A
No, no. Oh two. Krenzel is the O2 season.
D
Yeah. So I read off the 03 on action, but here's actually the O2 from like the year that he actually won it. So we posted a nice 12 to 7 touchdown interception.
A
Listen, that's less of both.
D
It's less of both. How many yards per game? Through the air?
C
184.
D
I'm guessing a little bit less.
C
Yeah, that was an Eddie George team, I believe. Or not Eddie George, but it was, it was a running team.
D
Chip can bench press this guy's yards per game. I'm extremely confident.
C
350.
A
Yeah. Geez. I mean, the gun shows here.
D
150 and a half.
A
Oh yeah, I got that.
D
Sit here like, bro, I, I, I beat every single one of these numbers.
A
Just, just need to be able to bench your weight, you know. 150 and a half. I got that.
C
Matt Flynn in 2007. 56.3 completion rate, 21 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, 6.7 per attempt. Not terrible, but yeah.
A
All right, one last one. This is way off the beaten path, but we're, we're here at, you know, closing in at the top of the hour and since Bud was bringing up the, the baseball game, we might have some help for our guy. Nathan, need dad advice? My wife has made the terrible decision to leave me alone with our two year old girl for the weekend. How do I survive? Preferably with child in one piece and sanity relatively intact.
B
That's a good one. I remember these days. I actually loved it. Now you got to sync up the nap schedule because you're both going to need naps. Both of you guys, you try to get her to bed, you know, reasonable hour. Because then you can have some alone time, watch some basketball this weekend. So you got to make sure she goes to bed around 7 and don't. If she's crying, just let her cry. They'll eventually stop. You don't have to go check on them. They'll eventually stop. They'll get the picture sooner when they're like 24.
D
Yeah.
B
And then I would, I would say there is no harm in asking for help. So if you have a close relative, an in law, something, you know, just. Just a little help is always got a little help goes a long way.
A
Or a play date. If there's like another friend who's got.
B
Another dad that wants to watch basketball too, that could get, that could get dicey though.
A
I. This is maybe a little bit more on the sanity side of things. I go into a situation like that and I think about it like activity periods and it's normally based around naps and meals. And so I've got like one goal or one activity, like one thing. Because when you're dealing with a child this young, it's going to take a while to lead up to the thing and then after the thing is done, it's going to take a while to decompress and transition into the next thing. Thing. So if you approach the weekend with like a morning, an afternoon, and then like Danny, like you said, and then after bedtime have a little space for yourself and then you wake up the next day, have a morning, have an afternoon, then a little time for yourself. Yeah, you just basically have to plan three or four activities. And if you go into it with a little goal in mind, then you'll have a blast the whole way.
D
And don't get frustrated if the activities don't go right or like. Yeah, they don't. They're not gonna be disappointed. They don't know.
B
And the hard thing is because they'll.
D
Sense if you get frustrated.
B
The hard thing is too, you gotta be careful with the sugar intake. Because I know that was nothing. When mom's away, it was like, all right, we're gonna get pancakes with lots of. And just let em. Just coat the thing in maple syrup. And then we're gonna get ice cream after dinner. That could be a recipe for disaster. Yeah, because when mom eats healthy, they are a little better behaved. But when they have a little sugar in them, that does kind of set. Set things ablaze sometimes.
D
Dude, Hudson yesterday. So I talked about taking the golf thing. He's like, dad, do you remember the girl? I was like, where's this going? And he's like, who has the Cheetos and the Kit Kats? I was like, cart girl. I was like, who? And he's like, and Powerade. And she drives the golf cart. And I was like, oh, the car girl. He's like, the cart girl. Yeah. Yeah, dude. 100.
A
Hey, you're not. Hey, you're not the first bro to fall in love with the cart girl.
D
That's right.
C
Won't be the last.
A
Won't be the last either. Yeah, and enjoy it more than anything. It's, it'll be a good time. And, and I'm sure that your two year old daughter will have a great one.
C
She doesn't just put her in the crate and close the door for a few hours.
A
Yeah, that's right.
C
It works the same with kids as dogs.
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We will be back on Monday, 11am Eastern Time. As we start to pivot into a month where we will start to get much more in terms of spring football. We'll get more in terms of starting to see what these teams are starting to look like. And we look forward to continuing the conversation all around college football here on the COVID 3 podcast. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Fidelity. You can follow him@bud elliot3. You can follow him at Danny Canal. Follow me at Chip Underscore Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.
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This lively Mailbag episode of the Cover 3 College Football Podcast, hosted by Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Danny Kanell, and Bud Elliott, takes a lighthearted and creative detour from Xs and Os into the realm of college football sabotage, with the guiding question: “How would you spend $10 million to sabotage your biggest rival’s national championship hopes?” The crew also answers listener mail on recruiting “Frankenstein” schools, pro sports fantasy picks, and some classic college football hypotheticals, all interspersed with playful banter, nostalgia, and dad jokes.
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The Cover 3 crew brings their signature dry humor and locker room camaraderie, mixing in references that span generational college football wisdom with modern internet and pop culture. The banter is sharp but friendly, often veering into relatable dad-life and “remember when” territory. Even when discussing “sabotage,” it’s all in the spirit of creative fun rather than actual malice.
If you missed this episode, you missed the crew’s most diabolical—and hilarious—ideas about how to sabotage a rival using booster bucks, how to build a campus every five-star would flock to, and which QBs won titles with less-than-elite arms. The episode is a mix of fan mail, quick-witted debates, and the kinds of off-field hypotheticals that make the college football offseason so much fun.