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Mailbag! What Was The Best Year For High School Recruiting? | Cover 3 College Football Podcast
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And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fenelli, that's Bud Elliott, that's Danny Cannell. I'm Chip Patterson coming to you live@YouTube.com cover3. And everywhere we get your own podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that, subscribe, smash that like and come and join us in the chat, aka the COVID 3 tailgate, where it's getting interactive because that's what we do here on a Thursday. That's right. Your questions, our answers, we're going to get them from the tailgate. We're going to get them from. When you've reached out to us individually. We're going to get them from the big old bag of mail where folks have left us a five star review. And in that review they put a mailbag question, including the one that you see on the headline here. What was the best year or cycle or college football recruiting? I'm sure you've got your ideas, we have ours. But first I want to get things rocking and rolling with, with, with something that we're starting to get a little bit more more buzz around. And yeah, tailgate. Celebrating the return of Bud. We do have Bud coming to us live from Nashville. Nasty weather in Nashville last night. So he's from the hotel room instead of the 24, seven offices. Safety first as always, bud. How are we doing?
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I'm doing well. I finally figured how to turn those emergency alerts off. You know, I was like, look, I, would I rather sleep or would I rather know that tornadoes coming? Like, I mean, this, this thing's got to be cement block, right? So, you know, this is an important.
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Question for tornado warning. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Good. Yeah, I, I think it's, I think it's largely fine. Yeah, we, we should be okay. All right. But it went off a couple times. Like, damn, how do I turn these things off? But I found it. Gotta go, like, settings, notifications, all the way down. Emergency alerts off. Like, I trust myself. I don't need my phone. You know, like, the human species survived. Well, some of them died, clearly, but, like, survive for a long, long time without cell phone emergency warnings. And so I feel like I don't, I don't have to have those. I'd rather sleep.
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Okay, Florida, Florida. Man might need to cut him back on when he gets home, though.
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All right, that is true. That is true.
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We're going to have, can have some gnarly weather, I'm sure, coming up in the late summer, early fall. All right, bud. Well, one of the reasons, one of the many, many reasons that I'm glad you're here is not just because we're going to be talking about recruiting, of which I think you are able to provide the great perspective because of how close you've been to recruiting for so long in terms of us trying to find the best year or the best cycle, but also because we're starting to get a little bit of conversation from athletic directors, from even head coaches, you know, Georgia's Kirby Smart coming out at a media availability recently, you know, talking about, you know, how college sports is going to change forever, you know, like, when this new house settlement goes through, set for April 7th. So I guess what I'm looking for here, bud, is what is your expectation? Is it really going to be like, settlement goes through and then things take off? Is there going to be more litigation? Do you think we're going to get this thing pushed? I, I, I'm getting a lot of doomsday. We got the big and like, big article right now on ESPN from Dan Wetzel and Pete Dammel with lots of comments from coaches and athletic directors. I, I, I, I'm getting mixed messages in terms of, yes, the, the house settlement date is going to turn us into a new era. And then also a lot of like, well, it's not like you're just going to wake up and everything's going to be different. How do you see this in terms of what fans and what we can all expect from the way college sports is going to change with the house settlement?
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So if you are somebody who has watched Cover 3 for a while or you consume a lot of college football podcasts in the off season, you're probably like the top 2 or 3% of college football fans, right? In terms of your knowledge. So if you're somebody listening to this right now, I don't think any of these changes are going to surprise you because we've been talking about this for like a good year. You guys remember the Simpsons episode where like they send like pamphlets and they send you to area code camp and like they give you like calls and letters and all this stuff. And then Homer can't figure out how to use the new area code. He's like, no notice. Right. And Lenny's like, what about the three weeks you spent? New area code camp stuff, you know, So I don't think you're going to notice a whole lot. But I think Kirby may be speaking to a broader audience that doesn't follow it hard in the off season. Right. And just more of a casual audience out there. And for them it will be a little bit different with the increased roster sizes, maybe some sports going away, etc. But all the big schools that you guys root for, they've already been operating like an anticipatory manner as to what's to come. Nobody here is being caught flat footed by what is coming in house. They literally negotiated the settlement. They know what to expect.
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Do you think that schools aren't going to start cutting sports on April 10? Like, we're not going to see. I mean, does this impact the spring portal? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, is it going to be something where all of a sudden floodgates, dominoes start falling? I, I don't. That's where I'm worried that I have been a little bit too casual about this. You know, is everybody else being a little bit more panic driven?
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That is so consistent with, with like the, the general ethos of this sport. Everybody in power is always like, oh, no, change, change, like change is bad, et cetera. And they all like, they, they, they. Doomsday scenario, everything. Constantly. It. I think Kirschner actually, back when we were desperation, did a really good article on all the times that like major figures in college football said that college football is going to die if this change goes through. And they were like literally hundreds, like one a year. Different issues going back to like Teddy Roosevelt.
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Yeah. Yes, exactly.
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Like, if you add helmets, this will kill the sport. If you had a Ford pass, this will kill the sport. If you put, if you give these kids scholarships, it'll kill. Like, there were so many things. So I, I just, I, I don't think that it's going to be a major change, but it's one that I think our audience has been pretty prepped on.
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Yeah, I, I would think that like a lot of these schools, while sky is falling, skies falling is a natural reaction for a lot of people. I think that, like us, nobody genuinely truly knows anything that's going to happen for sure. Like, I think most of these schools are going to see what the changes are and then they're going to see how it impacts them. And then based on how it's impacting them, then they might make decisions further down the road. Like, like you were saying, will we see schools shutter programs on April 10th? I doubt it. I think it would probably be, I don't know, just guessing here, six to 12 months before you start seeing schools make those kind of decisions.
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Danny, do you feel like you've got your head wrapped around this?
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No, not at all.
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I'm not on the, I'm not on the front foot or the forefront of this at all.
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And as the father of three daughters who would love to play college athletics, I'm very curious how it impacts, you know, women's sports like volleyball, swimming, soccer, non revenue sports. What impact does it have on them? I feel like Bud is right though. The big schools, I think will be fine. But I do wonder, like the lower tier, the group of five schools, the mid majors that have to have football to survive, and that's their moneymaker. And they, you know, how, how do they do. And that's a question for me. The other thing that I am still very curious because if you do the Math on the 20.5 million and you divvy up the way Georgia had said, 75 is going to go to football and 15 is going to go to men's basketball. And like, they have their structure that they kind of released a couple months ago, there's no way they're only paying that much. So they're going to have over the cap money for nil, which is specific to. Okay, let's say it's, you know, Carson Beck who was there, if he, if he can get a Lambo from a Lambo dealership, because he's Carson Beck, the Starting quarterback, then they can't prevent that. But I do think there's going to be businesses, local businesses that will say, sure, I'll put your quarterback on a billboard for a million dollars. And then how are they going to legislate that and say, well, there's a market. What is the common market? Because they're not supposed to go over the market value of a player who determines that market value. Because I have been told up and down that this new enforcement wing, that's going to be this new position, the CEO and there's an enforcement arm, not the ncaa, but somebody with actual teeth, is going to enforce these to make sure there's not extra pay for play. But it's so convoluted. How do you determine somebody's market value? It is whatever somebody's willing to pay.
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But your revenue sharing payments are not subject to market value.
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Right. They're not subject to market analysis, but there's a cap on how much you can give to them.
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Right.
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So like, and like the, the amount I think for Georgia was 13 and a half million dollars that they're going to use out of the, the 20. It's either 13 or 15.
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Right.
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That's still well short of what everyone reported on Ohio State paying 20 million and Texas paying 22 million. So you're telling me that Georgia is going to say like, yep, we're only going to pay our guys between 13 and 15 million as a team.
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So you rev share the third stringers and then you take all your starters and you trot them out into the nil market to be able to make the numbers work?
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No. Okay, so look, I. First of all, there's no market analysis needed for Rev Share.
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Right. That's what I'm saying. The rev share stuff is not subject to any of that. So how would you decide the way that you're going to go about having the NIL for some Rev Share for others? Or is it just Rev share is across the board for your roster and then you just let the NIL opportunities come in over top to make those numbers work?
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It's definitely not like even across the board.
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Right, right.
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Like, like your, your players, like the bottom half of your roster is largely expendable. Like they don't matter. They will not make an impact on your program in the aggregate. A couple of them will pop. But you're no better at telling me who those guys are going to be, you know, like in, in their first couple weeks than anybody else is. Right. I'm not saying I'm Better but just it's, it's just a numbers game. Like a couple of them are going to pop. Most of them will not. Those guys aren't going to get very much money, you know, like bottom half of the roster. I mean like in terms of value obviously some guys who don't play year one do have a lot of long term value. You need to invest in that so you can get, you can capture that upside in year two and year three. So you top load it with your rev share of the top guys and then you also go out and try to get those guys a bunch more through your nil programs so they stay on your roster. They'll transfer.
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But who's like that's where I'm curious is that nil like collectives? I've heard there shouldn't be a reason for collectives. It's just be marketing. Like it should just be a marketing agent that goes out and gets you brand deals with Gatorade and some of the commercial Dr. Pepper like the ones we've watched. But college football and cheating go hand in hand. I don't think anybody's going to just say sure, we'll play by the rules we'll make. There's going to be teams that push the envelope and challenge. Who are you to say that my quarterback couldn't make this amount of money? And there is definitely like when I played for the Giants. You are more marketable on the New York Giants, New York jets than you are playing in, you know, Minnesota for the Vikings or Seattle. There are and I think Cooper Flag playing at Duke helps him way more than if he played at Boston College. You know, there's a brand value of wearing a certain jersey. So I get that and you can get some more value. But I just feel like teams are going to push that envelope and I think it's going to be interesting to see how they enforce that.
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Well, this is where I think the lawsuits will come. I think people will challenge this clearinghouse and say wait a second. Really like it's pretty anti American to say that this independent business can't value my endorsement of them at X. Right. Like what, what if, what if they want to get in on the ground floor because they feel like your influence is going to grow quite a bit, you know, right. Like that's somebody's going to challenge that. We will see how well this holds up.
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There's also, don't you think there's got to be some. And this is why teams are rushing right to get these deals done so they can go above and pay a little above and beyond before the, the salary cap comes in. There's going to be, there's probably right now there's a 14 year old quarterback who is out there and he's a stud and he's a future five star and when he comes out he's going to have his earnings capped. He's going to say, wait a second, Bryce Underwood made 12 million bucks or whatever his deal was. Why can I only make four or five? You know, whatever his number is. But they're going to have to have a cap on it to make sure they can get him in. The 10 year agreement I don't think is going to last longer than two or three and then we're in more lawsuits and it's just going to be a lot more legalese that we're going to have to cover.
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I could see that.
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How will the tariffs impact it?
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Let's drive up the YouTube powders.
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If there is the. In the college basketball, there are a lot of kids that come up from Europe. They're gonna.
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Canada too.
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Yeah, that's right, Canada. Yep. They're gonna have to put a little tariff on them.
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Sorry, Shay, Gil, just.
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Alex, we want American made players like.
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24, 7 is going to take a 5 star Canadian and knock them down to a 4. Sorry, 20 tariff.
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Is this good? Oh, great question from the tailgate. Is this going to impact our Aussie punters?
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Oh, no.
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Australian honors have changed the game.
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We need to move punting manufacturers back to the United States.
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Damn it.
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Yeah, I just, it as you can hear like with this conversation, there's just, even from those of us who, who eat, sleep and breathe this sport, there's still a little bit of like, huh, okay. And the, the coaches, the athletic directors, the administrators, there's a, there's a lot of confusion. April 7th, you know, we'll see. I mean, who know, is there any chance that it gets delayed again or we just have lawsuits immediately filed and then everything freezes? I mean, what's the, this thing. This thing could feel like the ACC versus Florida State just getting like tied up in the courts for so long that you just kind of lose sight of even what we're talking about here.
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I guess it could, but I, I don't know. I'm not going to say like it will because I really don't know if it will.
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The schools are all hoping and praying this lasts, but I just think there's too many attorneys out there that see too much opportunity and too much restriction on a workforce that hasn't been collectively bargained.
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Right.
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Well again, this is still a great.
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Deal for the schools.
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Yes.
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The reason, the reason why the schools want this pass is like relative to their actual value. The players are getting ripped off far less than they used to be for sure. But like the schools are still making out like bandits here. Right?
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That's we again we will see next week is when this settlement is supposed to go through. We will continue to follow that as, as the ripple effects go through college sports. Well, coming up on the other side, we turn our attention to your questions, our answers and more next.
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Back here on the COVID 3 podcast at 9:23am Eastern Time our friend Katie jumped in the tailgate and said great Thursday question in early April. Would love to hear each of the fellas most memorable moment from their athletic careers. I'll let Danny have more time to think about because he's got more to cycle through. Chip will go ahead and get us started. All right, so here's what we're talking. We're talking Raleigh City League basketball. Okay. Head coach of our team ended up going to be coach for Broughton High School and he's sort of around shout out to Bill White, Stick White for those who know him more informally. And we had a tight game early in the season. Our squad would go on to have an undefeated regular season and make a run in the city tournament. But we knew it was going to be our year because tight game back and forth. It was a tie game. I'm sitting back there. Other teams at the free Throw line and I make a nod to the point guard. Like I'm just gonna make a break for the goal. Missed free throw. Rebound pushes it to the point guard. I'm just, just running right to the rim. Pass ahead to me. Little runner from about 16ft. Bang, bang in game winning shot for. For a team. Place goes nuts. I loved that team. I loved that coach. And got the season started with a game winner at the buzzer. So one competitive buzzer beater that I have to my name. It's definitely my favorite athletic memory.
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Bud.
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I remember I threw like a one hitter. This was probably last year, Babe Ruth. And it was early. And my dad, you know, as a firefighter just got off shift, so that was cool. In time for him to see it also turned a pretty sick little double play. I was playing third guy on third, like one out or no out, and, you know, fake the throw to first, spin around, tag him and still throw it. Before it was just like, you know, it was probably stupid to try, but it totally fell forward and got him, which was. That was pretty cool.
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Mine is the only touchdown I ever scored because I was mostly an offensive lineman and a defensive lineman covered a fumble, picked it up.
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Oh, yeah.
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Took it about 16 yards to the house. Just, you know, it was probably the highlight of my football career. And then one time in baseball, and this was little League, my dad, my manager, he got ejected because it was little league baseball and it was very, very important stuff. And he was pissed off the umpire, and the umpire threw him out of the game. So he goes out to the car, and he's sitting in his car and he's parked behind the left field fence, sitting there with the window down, just watching the game from the parking lot. And I hit a ball into the window into his lap while he was sitting into the car for a home run over the fence. So thank God he had the window down or else I probably would have gotten in trouble for my dad getting thrown out of a game. But yeah, that was funny. Not the highlight, but probably the funniest moment of my athletics right there.
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Love that. I want to Mikey. We need to get Mikey up in here talking about his wrestling varsity heavyweight match. And against Avon. That's my old stomping grounds in Connecticut. They were down five points, needed to pin a kid, and he pinned him in front of his home crowd and sent the entire gym into silence. Love it, Mikey.
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There you go, dude.
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That's awesome. I love that. One of my favorites was they had. So you guys all see the little League World Series on espn, right? Little League World Series. I played big league, which was the next age groups that was 13 to 15, I think was big Ruth, right?
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Basically, yeah.
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It's like the next level up. So they had the big League World Series was in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. So we played against teams like Venezuela, we played against Colombia, all these teams and we played against Taiwan and Taiwan was always like the best team. We were down. I believe we're down three to nothing, bases were loaded, hit a grand slam, we end up winning 4 to 3. That might be one of my all time. At Floyd Hole Stadium in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. One of my all time best sporting memories.
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That's out there.
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Grand slam. And it was like everyone knew that when Danny stepped to the plate was going to happen, it was just going to be which way he was going to hit it. It was Danny bobblehead night. It was meant to be. He was going to find a way to launch that thing over the fence. Love, love some of these stories in the tailgate right now. Also love Max Pisman for Nelly. The, the original Pisman was Tom Fornelli. We got Jerry competed at the 1993 U.S. nationals for Olympic weightlifting. Okay, nice. And then of course, who amongst us.
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Hasn'T been in the Olympics though?
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Yeah, Isaac dropping his rec league stats from Last year in 2024. 2020. 28 points in one half. All right, let's. Let's keep it rolling a little bit more. Back to the the college football focus. Here we go. Good morning, gentlemen. Zach says, I always wonder if Lance Leipold. Dave, I think he means Jeff Braum. Jeff Brahm, Kirk Ference. What would happen if they had an Alabama or Ohio State budget?
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Iowa would go 10 and 3 because Kirk would spend it all on offensive line. But a defensive.
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He'D spend it everywhere.
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They'd get like $150,000 QB be like.
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All right, boys, let's go.
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I think they would crush it. I do think they would. They're great football coaches. They are doing more with less. I think they would be in the national championship hunt every single year, much like Ohio State and Alabama are. They'd be nine wins minimum and you know, on a down year and they'd be challenging for titles with that because they would spend it on players and they would have players better than everybody else, just like Ohio State and Alabama have.
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I think Iowa puts a pretty good amount of money into football, though.
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You think they do you think they spend anywhere close to this?
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I think they had like a $20 million roster like Ohio State did last year. But I don't know. I think that in their development and all that kind of stuff, they've poured plenty of money into their football program.
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I, I think that what's at the heart of the question is what we have in Tuscaloosa right Now, that Kalyn DeBoer coming up from NAIA, you know, coming up from all the small, like, he's just a winner everywhere he goes. Like, a lot of the sort of punch lines or taglines that we use to talk about Kaylin DeBoer are very similar to what we would talk about with a Lance Leipold. And so along the way, Kaylin DeBoer at Alabama is kind of, what if Lance Lipold had an Alabama budget? So what would happen? We'll see. Year one says you were nine and three, you were knocking on the door of the playoff. Yeah. Got a little bit of a roster in transition. But this is that example to that question. What happens if we just take somebody who is renowned as being a ball coach, who wins at every level, and we give them all the resources in the world? That's exactly what we've got with the Crimson Tide right now. Some soft factors, like, I don't know, following after Nick Saban, which are sort of influencing things as the whole Alabama community adjusts to life without the, the greatest coach in college football history. But I, I think that that's what's at the heart of his question that you've got right now. An example of a great ball coach who came up from the small schools and now has all the resources in the world.
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I, I think like part of the Iowa question is, would you run something different if you could get a higher.
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Caliber player, like to Iowa, if you could get wide receivers from Florida and quarterbacks from Texas?
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Okay, if, if you can't dance, you kind of stay in your box, right? Like, you just, you don't, you don't like, put yourself out there. Yeah, right, exactly. Like Iowa, two steps and they two step. Well, right. But like, if Iowa had, they had.
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A little better dance moves where they.
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Actually, you know, like try to execute a different dance. Like they're not trying to win 11, 12, 13, 14 ball games. That's not me saying that they're trying to lose two or three every year. What I'm saying is they're staying within themselves. They know who they are. They do it really well. I wonder if you get a higher caliber athlete because you got like that kind of money. You know, maybe you do recruit a little bit different type of player. There's also, like, weather concerns in Iowa. I guess sometimes it's cold and pretty windy, you know, just not. You can't just chuck the ball 50 times a game. Although Purdue did it pretty well with Tiller. But, like, I wonder if they would run something a little bit different. There's also. And I think this is probably a little bit less meaningful now because these guys are all paid, like, above board. But there was always the question, like, how would they deal with a more like, prima donna type of athlete? Like a guy who's, you know, been really good for a long time, knows he's really good. Those guys take coaching differently sometimes than some of these dudes who still have a ton to prove, you know, take coaching.
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Fair. All right, let's go. Speaking of location, this question came in from Brennan on the tailgate. What is the most under. I think it's supposed to be underserved.
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Yeah.
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What is the most underserved location for college football in the country? He offers the St. Louis area, saying that Columbia is a ways away. Big population, no NFL team.
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I disagree with the St. Louis area.
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I didn't include it initially because they've.
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Got two power four teams that that city is a fan of. Although Mizzou, it's more heavily slanted to Mizzou, but that's Missou. And Illinois. Like, both of those schools are pretty big there.
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Uh.
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I mean, I would say it has to be somewhere in the Northeast.
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Yeah, I mean, New York City.
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New York City, yeah. Well, hey, guys, I got Rutgers, remember?
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Right. New York's football team. They've got a lot of bars for watch parties for Big Ten alumni, but not a lot of college football stadiums.
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That are New England. Just put it as a region. Living in Connecticut for five years. It is NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball. There's just not a lot of college football fans.
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Don't forget the Bruins.
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Exactly. NHL. It's all about the professional sports. I know they have BC there, but it's just. I think it's because they don't have access to college football like a lot of people do. And I know there's some schools that are in the vicinity, but it is just. They are not college football minded.
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Yeah, they don't grow up even when they become snowbirds and they come out here with me and Danny. Like, I don't think they pick up college teams nearly at the rate. Like, they. They stay. Like, if you're on the east coast, you stay rooted for the Yankees and Giants. You're on the west coast. It's, you know, probably Cubs and, and bears.
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Is there any way that definitely hits in terms of population and the lack of college football? Is there anywhere else in the country that you would point to?
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I would kind of point to like North Carolina for not having like a, like a team that competes nationally, like on a consistent basis.
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College football is not about the national championship, bud. It's not about 18 schools.
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I'm trying to stretch it.
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We are happy with our Idaho. Idaho is called triangle good. Okay. When you are triangle good and you're out there winning your seven, eight, nine games a year and you are going to your bowl game in D.C. or Charlotte, that is fine. Okay.
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Print the T shirts triangle good. I would say Idaho is probably pretty underserved as far as college football is concerned. I mean, they've got the Vandals in Boise State, but just, I don't know, New Mexico.
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I was trying to figure out like that's hard to get to big. Like you hope that one of those programs is going to be really fun for a season. But if you're out there get getting to big time college football, it's probably pretty tough if you're out there. But the. Because New Mexico, man, we just, we had it for a second. You know, we, we thought Broncos, big beefy boys. We had it but you know, just flies away like that. All right, coming up on the other side, the question that we led this headline with lots of years of college football recruiting. What was the best year or cycle for high school recruiting? All that and more.
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B
It's that tiffin good. It doesn't really need advertising. So instead of enjoy the calming sounds of the ocean.
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D
Gif.
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Ooh, it's that jiffing good. Get your jiff@gif.com.
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It'S been so long. How have you been?
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A
Hello. I'm doing well, Dave.
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B
Why. Why are you talking that way?
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A
Please say one for a compliment or.
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B
Two for a question. Yeah, this is weird. I think I'm gonn with an automated phone tree. Can feel pretty ridiculous. That's why when you call Pacific Source Health Plans, you'll get a real person to answer all your important questions. Pacific Source Health Plans. This is a real person. How can I help you? Human service, not automated phone trees. Find a plan@pacificsourcemembers first.com.
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We are one week away from the most distracted cover three podcast of the year. It is the mailbag during the Thursday of the Masters.
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C
I feel it cough coming on. I don't know if I'll be around.
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B
I, I, I actually on a golf trip that day.
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A
Don't we actually have a pro? Don't we actually might have an adjustment to the schedule or is that later? I don't know actually.
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Oh, I could probably, I could probably do the show but like in the interest of just like we want to have quality content, not just quant like that might need to be like a 40 minute show a day. I don't know. Yeah.
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D
Even the Wednesday show is tough with the par three going on the.
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Listen, you can, you can catch up with the Par 3 live blog at CBSSports.com and get all a day's worth of information really, really simply. Okay, this question did come in through the five star mailbag where you if you go and you leave us a five star review and in that review you put your question we'll tackle it in a future mail bag episode. Here we go. This question comes from username Cardiac Pack. Best podcast there is. I listen to cover three on all my runs and it helps grind out the miles Mailbag question, what is the best year for high school recruiting?
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D
Him and me both, by the way. Sunday mornings, that's my routine during the season. I listen to the recap show. I'm getting a little run in, get caught up on anything I missed.
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B
Love it.
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C
My Sunday morning routine during the season is to sleep because I was up.
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B
Late doing the recap shows.
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C
No, no, not on that one.
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No.
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I've, I've got, I've got a nomination. Do you all have one that comes to mind?
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Yes.
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Is it 13?
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No.
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All right, let me roll through 2013. These are names that were in the top 100 of the player rankings in 2013. Chris MFing Jones. Okay. Hall of Famer right off the top. Robert Kim.
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I got a good story on Chris Jones.
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Okay. Like, not Robert, not a Hall of Famer. But we also have Laramie Tunsil, Trudevius White, Jonathan Allen, Derrick Henry, Reuben Foster, Alex Collins, O.J. howard, Ashon Robinson. Geez, it's weird. That Alabama team won a national championship. Laquan Treadwell, Von Bell, Kendall Fuller. Shout out to all 12 of the Fuller brothers. DeMarcus Walker, Jalen Ramsey, Adam Brennaman. Shout out to the Big Ten network. Joey Bosa, Smoke Bazelle, Alvin Kamara, zeke Elliott and J.T. barrett. Those are all names from the top 100 of the 2013 recruiting class.
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Did you, did you also had Berg what?
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Christian Hackenberg.
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I did not mention Christian Hackenberg when I was pulling this list these names that 20 bananas.
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Yeah. Jalen Smith was an absolute beast for Notre Dame before he blew his knee in that bowl game.
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A
Yep.
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B
That's a really good one. It. I, I considered it. I. I think, like, I could vote for it. I'm gonna go 20, 18.
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18. Is that. Are we talking about Trevor and Justin?
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Trevor and Justin, yeah. Because the quality of the quarterbacks at the top, I think are nuts. And then you scroll down a little more. So Xavier Thomas did never hit, but Micah Parsons she did. Nick Petit Frere, I believe, starts for the Titans. Aman Ross, St. Brown, Pretty good player there. Patric Tan's the best corner in the NFL right now. I think Tyson Campbell is probably still in the league. Jalen Green, Jamar Chase, Terrace Marshall, who ended up getting hurt. This kid. This goes for quite a while, actually. Overshone. Quay Walker, who's now on Green Bay, I think it is. There's a bunch of dudes. Yeah, like, there's a lot of guys here. I'm just looking for like, stud studs, you know. Josh Job was, was, was pretty nasty at Bama for a while. Like, I think, like, how top heavy this is. Yeah, yeah, that, that's. That's a pretty good one. Earlier I was like, yeah, okay. He's probably a hall of Famer if he stays healthy. Right. Jalen Waddle.
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Ah, yeah.
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Down there at. At 64 in the composite, this is.
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Class Aiden Hutchinson. So like two the. The Lions. Two like two of the Lions. Best player, three of the lines. I'm on Ross. What?
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The Detroit Lions were born in the 2018 recruiting class.
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2018 recruiting class has led Detroit Lions to all of this success right now. So Waddle came here, huh?
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C
Yeah.
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Hey, you know who's gonna.
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We know where he's going now. Everybody put Tyler shuck the Lions in your mocks.
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B
4Th round pick.
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Tyler's juck Detroit backing up Jared Goff.
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A
So that means Waddle in 18 means that it was the 17 class that had Judy Rugs and Devonta Smith.
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B
Yes.
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And Tua and Leatherwood and Naji Harris. Those are just Alabama players, you know, like, not even looking at the rest of that Walker.
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B
Little Jalen Phillips who was a complete beast. And like Jalen Phillips was a complete.
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Piece once he got settled. Yes.
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To go through all that stuff and like, still make the, like make the league and play well is insane. Is that Vanessa's on the league?
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C
Yeah, he's in Buffalo.
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Chase Young. Trey Smith's one of the best cards in football.
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C
Getting paid like it. That's for sure.
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Yeah, that's a really, that's a good one too.
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Any what, what are other, any other classes that would rival this?
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What year was clowning was that 08?
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D
11? I'm looking at it right here.
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B
Okay.
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D
Clowney. It's not the best. Jeff Driscoll was the 13th best player in the class. Nick O', Leary, Florida State. Jarvis Landry, LSU. Haha. Clinton Dix.
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C
It was like a better class, that's for sure.
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Sammy Watkins was pretty good.
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D
Yeah, he was really good.
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B
Clinton Dix.
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As you said, 11 was my first because 10 was our first season with CBS. I think 11 was my first signing day for CBS. We got, we started in August.
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They're the top of that 2011 class. Had some misses as far as NFL success is concerned. But once you start getting to the 50s, you've got Devonte Freeman, Melvin Gordon, Odell Beckham Jr. So it's like once you get down in there, there's some pretty decent guys.
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Johnny Manziel was 2011 class. Marcus Mariota.
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Those are good ones.
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Jacoby Brissette was in that class. Yeah, he's still in the league.
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D
Yep.
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C
You know, you know who else is in the league too, that just got traded today? Joe Milton.
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B
Who are you traded to?
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The Dallas.
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Just a whole lot of, A whole lot of NFL bros writing words on Joe Milton these days. Just like guys.
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B
Come on, Danny, can we get you.
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On to talk about Joe Milton of the Cowboys? Yeah, right.
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B
Breaking news. If the other, if the other three AFC east teams just banded together, like, all right, we'll share like a 5 million dollar Joe Milton contract and he'll be our practice squad guy, you know, every week that we play Buffalo just so we can simulate the arm strength, which is hard to do, but that's what I'm saying. Like who, who has Josh Allen's arm that can league?
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It's.
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There's not that many guys who really rip it like that.
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Yeah, we are just guys naming dudes. That's, that's kind of what happens when you ask for the best, best recruiting class.
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D
Did you guys, did you guys see that? The college football leaders are meeting in Dallas today.
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The playoff. College football playoff leaders.
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Heather Dennich said a couple hours ago multiple sources indicated there's strong support to move to a straight seating model this fall while continuing to include the five highest ranked conference champs. There are some though, who want to tie that discussion into 2026 as the commissioners are expected to have more substantive talks about the format in 26 and beyond. How that Conversation unfolds would determine if they can reach the unanimity required and if that happens today. So it's pretty much what we thought is there using the leverage of the future playoff model to try to get unanimous vote for the 25 season to get the seating where it makes sense as opposed to what we saw last year.
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I'm gonna say this in like the least jerk way possible. Heather could have, if she knew the date of the meeting, she could have pre written that like months ago. Like this has been. This has been the talk the entire time, right? Like will this happen this year? I don't know how much will they extract from future.
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D
Like the only news is that they actually make a decision today or this weekend, however long this meeting goes.
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Can I suggest a. A class here? By the way, I've got one from.
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A
The tailgate that they offer too, so go ahead.
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B
2024. So I think the guy at the top is already probably a hit, right?
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Jeremiah.
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Jeremiah, yeah. Like he'd be. Is there. Are there any teams that Jeremiah would be a 14 in the NFL right now? So I think there's probably a couple.
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Ryan Wilson said Jeremiah would be the number one pick in the 2025 NFL Draft if he was available easily.
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Yes. Would you rather have a 19 year old Jeremiah or. Or like a 23 year old Cam Ward? Come on. And I think there's an argument for Cam because quarterback position, but like that's pretty valuable to have.
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Would you rather have Jeremiah or Travis Hunter? Because I feel like that's not that dissimilar of a question. And Cam Ward's probably still going to be drafted ahead of Travis Hunter.
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I would rather have Jeremiah for NFL purposes. I think he has much more ability to get better just because the age like there, there may be some more ceiling there. And Travis might too if he stops playing both ways. All right, so we go Jeremiah. Then we have Ellis Robinson at Georgia, who, you know, we'll see how he turns out. DJ showed some real ability. Lagway LJ McCray at Florida showed some pretty nice flashes. Cam Coleman, I think we could say that's probably already a hit there. Just like how big of a hit, but certainly a hit. Williams Winery, definitely a miss so far. I mean probably on the bus track, but it's maybe a little too early to say that. Dylan Raiola, I think played a lot as a freshman. That's probably trending towards the hit. Ryan Williams certainly trending towards the hit. Like Jordan Ross. Love to see there. Justin Williams of Georgia. Nobody's on the field of Georgia at linebacker right now because they have like three studs. So good luck. But like, I mean embark at Bama. Jordan Seaton, who started all year of Colorado, Sammy Brown at Clemson, K.J. bolden at Georgia. I am just name the dudes here. But like, yeah, Julian Saying could be a real dude. Dylan Stewart, who played awesome for South Carolina last year at Clemson. Like he might be something at Mississippi State. We'll see. Like, there's a lot of. There's a lot of real high upside guys who, who show Colin Simmons at Texas. Like, we don't need that many got of these guys to hit. We need some. We don't need that many of these guys to hit for to be like, oh, shoot. Like this is, this is a real, real class.
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I still like the 2013 because I think you've got all of it. You've got incredible college careers which we saw to completion. We've got incredible NFL careers with some we've seen completed already. Some are still going adding to their resumes. I think it's like you have to give it the test of time to see if 24. How many of them do pan out.
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Yeah, the, the tailgate brought up. The tailgate brought up 22. That would be Travis Hunter, Walter Nolan, Drew Allergies, Malachi Starks, Michael Williams, Josh Connerly, Cade Klubnick, Luther Burden, Jihad Campbell, Nick Singleton. Again, I, I'm kind of on a underwhelmed. I'm on an incomplete with 22 and 24. We gotta, we got, we got, we gotta let this thing play out before I'm gonna say is one of the, the best of all time. Especially when we've got some pretty, pretty high standards with like 313 and with 18 in terms of what they were able to accomplish over time.
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B
Yeah, I need like a stronger 2, 3, 4 out of that class. Like Hunter is for sure a great one to have, but like the rest feel like, like they should be like 7, 8, 9, 10 and instead they're. They're pushed up towards the top at least.
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A
What are you doing to challenge Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields? You're bringing Drew Aller and Kade Klubnik to the conversation?
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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One time Penn State commit Justin Fields. Is that right?
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B
Yes, that is correct.
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A
Oh, they had him. I thought they had.
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And then he showed up to Orlando Elite 11 and I was like, oh, okay, this is like jumbo Russell Wilson. This is gonna work.
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Tom, Bud, can we hear the Chris Jones story?
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B
Oh, yeah. So this is back before we had like A lot of camps. So Jones was what, 2013. So it would have been like the 2012. It would have been a senior year of high school. And we had seen Kim DJ A lot, but Jones was from, like, pretty rural Mississippi. I had never seen him before in person, and I really didn't know many guys who had either. But, like, the huddle stuff was. Was pretty crazy. And obviously Mississippi State, Ole Miss were, were losing their minds fighting over this guy. And then he showed up and it was a real like, holy to the Under Armour. Orlando. Not the right, but like the, the Under Armour game in Orlando. I remember him coming to practice, I was like, yeah. Like, are we sure Kim DJ is like the number one dude here? Because this is like this Chris Jones guy. Like guys seeing this, this. So that was pretty cool. He was very, very different even as a senior. And like maybe day one he had a little like, adjustment period to go in against elite guys because the Kanichi played at Grayson in, you know, in Georgia and they play some good competition. Whereas in Mississippi is kind of up and down at times, especially in the smaller areas. But by the end of day one, he's kicking everybody's ass.
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I believe it. Man is just different out there. All right, let's go back to the big old bag of mail. This one comes from UT username UT Noel. And the subject is question for the no boys. FSU question is Mike Norvell. Just Dan Mullen 2.0. Decent coach, good guy, Not a great recruiter.
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B
So far. Yeah. Probably sticks his foot in his mouth a little bit less. Right. But yeah, and you take the Florida State job because you need to be able to recruit well and he doesn't. So, you know, yeah.
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D
Damn. Mullen was more consistent winner at Florida so far than what we've seen from Mike Norvell. I know both. And there's such different personalities. It's hard for me to compare them at all because they're so different. But from the recruiting aspect, yeah, I think that's the clear weakness so far. That's been pretty glaring here as of late with Mike Norvell and the staff. Are they aware of it, Bud?
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B
I mean, I think clearly they are, but I don't, I don't think they.
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D
Just not want to make the necessary changes. Does it help that we get, you know, a salary cap revenue share type structure where it's more transactional, less relational?
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B
Like there's a lot of factors I think are tough to differentiate. Right. You just went 2 and 10, so that's going to be A little bit tough. They were always for like at least the last half decade fighting that you're in the ACC thing. Like, that's a lot of perception to overcome. I do think they get outworked by other staffs. I don't think that like, that Mike works those guys to death and like you're facing, you know, a team in Miami who does like crystal ball works to get his guys like crazy. And you see a lot of guys leave that staff and that's just kind of the, you know, the deal. So I, I don't think there's much they can do about it right now. I, I was talking about this on Nocast. Like they just missed on one of their quarterback targets and I'm kind of like, if you bring a Gus Malzon, shouldn't you just like spend money elsewhere and just get a runner? Like you're, how much are you gonna have to overpay for any kind of decent throwing quarterback to come play in that Malzahn offense? Like, I wouldn't go to that. Would you? Hell no. So why not like, you know, go spend 800k on an awesome athlete and not a couple million on like a five star quarterback and then spread that money around, play better defense around the ball. Like, I don't think your goal is to win a national title anytime soon. Your goal is to not get fired. And to me, like, it seems like that's how you're served. Better to run the ball rather than try to chase one of these quarterbacks.
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Dan Mullen had a more spectacular track record running up to arriving at Florida, getting Mississippi State to like historically good marks. Even though Mike Norvell was like a rolling at Memphis getting them to New Year's six games. It did feel like Mullen, Mullen had a little bit more of a familiar Runway. He was an offensive coordinator in the sec, he was a head coach in the sec. It was a, it was a big jump. Everyone tr. I mean, there is still people who trust that Mike Norvell is the guy for the job at Tallahassee, but from his, you know, offensive coordinator at Arizona State and just sort of like the, the path that was there, it was a big leap up. And maybe, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, maybe that also spoke to where Florida State was post Willie Taggart in terms of, you know, being a little bit of a step down. That, that ended up being a fit. But it to, to match what Florida State believes Florida State should be. That was a big jump up to go from Memphis to Florida State, I think bigger than what Mullen had going from Mississippi State to Florida.
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I think I agree, but from a recruiting standpoint, I don't know that I do. Like I think in the expectations, yes, recruiting like Mississippi State doesn't sign. I'm not going to get clipped here. Like they don't sign very many highly rated kids. They're not in very many big time recruiting battles. It's a lot of like finding hidden gems from Mississippi, which is also where when Mike was at Memphis, like they heavily did that. A lot of the, the Mississippi area junior colleges, which Mike and, and Dan both did pretty heavily and both have failed pretty spectacularly recruiting at the high school level. And we don't really know what Mullen would have been with the portal. Right. I don't know. Like they both had unique challenges there and obviously the, the lack of high school recruiting is going to do them both eventually.
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A
All right, let's do one more from the tailgate. Let's say billionaire decides to donate quote whatever it takes to get Toledo a national championship. What is the minimum nil to get Toledo a national championship?
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C
20 million is. Seems to be the going rate.
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A
I was thinking because it's Toledo, we got it.
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D
Oh yeah, there's a premium double. You got to play a pretty hefty premium. I was worried you go like Jeff pay some sort of rights fee to get into a Power 4 conference.
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A
Because you're just not like, even if you go, they'd have to.
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D
They, you know, you could be the highest ranked group of five. So I guess you get access there. But I would say probably 40 million is the number. Maybe 50 because you got to maybe enhance your facilities a little bit. But I don't think it's 20 though. I don't think it's the same.
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C
I mean, let's see, you're Toledo, you're already kind of competing in the Mac every single year.
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A
So we get to change out our coach.
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C
You, you're going to spend more money. So you're going to house the Mac. I mean, because you're already one of the better programs in the league anyway.
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A
Right? I mean we, we are talking, if we want to talk about Florida State glory days, we are talking 2013 Florida state margins of victory, like just beating brains in by 45 points.
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C
You're really getting yourself that spot for the bid for the G5 playing like that. So I don't know how much you have to overpay to get into new conference now to compete with the teams you will see in the playoff Once you get there, that's where the money's going to have to truly come in. So I would say, I would think 35 to 40 million would be enough.
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B
To get it there to win the natty. So this is for like a one year team, right?
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A
Correct.
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B
We're not taking time to build this up.
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C
It's just like, hey, like you're just going around the country and plucking the best seniors out there and juniors guys, just to give them big old check to say, come on, let's go do something fun for a year. Lido, boys.
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Yeah, yeah. You, you are going in and you're putting down FU money offers to some of the best players in the country and just raiding all conference teams. Like what happens to the Sun Belt you are doing to the Big ten all conference team.
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B
So you. Yeah, I mean, all right, just spreadsheeting this.
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A
Oh yeah.
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C
Can you imagine the message board meltdowns if like an Ohio State quarterback transferred to Toledo though?
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B
Hilarious. So quarterback, you can spend like 6 million. Offensive line, like nine receiver, like seven running backs, like two tight ends, just a little bit under 2D line, like nine backers, like a million and a half, maybe two. Your backers would kind of suck. Unless you get like, I think in this hypothetical you have to assume you're gonna get better players to actually jump in the portal. Then we're in this portal this year.
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A
You are tampering your ass off on this. You are like you're going into the DMS and you are just literally prying players away from roster. You're not even waiting for the portal to open.
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B
We got 59 million dollar secondary. Yeah.
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D
You know how they typically get a million bucks to take the loss? Do they have to pay to get on the schedule? 5 million to get on Ohio State schedule, you know, or Notre Dame or.
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A
I think you just need one power conference win. Just one. Just one.
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C
Just beat Purdue, you'll be fine. Beat Mississippi State again.
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A
Yeah, I, I think that you could, you know, you pull in one mid tier. Like if you can beat a 6 and 6 power conference team, that would, that would be, that would be all you really need to be able to be the cherry on top when you're just walloping everybody else.
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B
Also, this team should stay really healthy, right?
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A
Oh, because they're going to be in the fourth quarters. Like just rest. Yeah, yeah.
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B
But the backup sucks so much. Maybe the margin gets a little tighter. You're like, damn, we need to blow everybody out non stop to make it in the playoff. It's A fun hypothetical.
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A
All right, so what's your. All right. Did you say that was left with $9 million? What'd you just total up on the spreadsheet?
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B
50.
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A
Yeah. $50 million. And are we gonna have to get rid of Jason Candle?
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B
Yes. I mean.
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A
We'Ve seen the results of Jason Candle as a betting favorite.
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B
If he's gonna be a better favorite.
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A
Every single time we're trying to win a national championship here.
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B
We've never had, like, a 50 point, like, favorite lose. And I mean, if there's one guy who loses double digit favorite. I'm kind of like, it's. It's Jason Kendall. You could set a record.
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A
Yeah, well, that. That'll have to be so. So now tack on an extra 10. This is a $60 million operation. Yeah. So any billionaires out there? If you want to, for one year only, go buy yourself a national championship. $60 million is all it would take to just go ahead and flip that roster, flip the staff, and go buy yourself a title. Lots of fun stuff. All right, here's a question. When do we want to rank every quarterback who started in 2024, and do we want to narrow that path to narrow that pool to just power conference quarterbacks who started in 2024?
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C
Let's do it on Masters Thursday.
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A
So Masters Thursday will be when we rank.
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B
No, no, no, no, no, no.
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A
You want to do it Monday?
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B
Yeah, sure.
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A
Okay.
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B
So it's everybody who's returning or just like we're doing like, the retrospective on.
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A
Last year, I think. Retrospective. You take you look at the 2024 season, quarterbacks who started a game, which means you can include Arch Manning.
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D
And you have eligibility.
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B
That's what I'm saying. Like, so.
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D
Yeah.
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A
What do you think? I mean, I think that we're setting the rules here.
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B
Yeah, I think we should spin it forward to make it more about college. Like, what's coming in college football.
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A
Okay.
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B
April feels a little bit late to do, like, total, like, you know, backwards looking.
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A
Okay. So the player pool is players who started a game in 2024 who will be back on college football rosters in 2025. Yeah. Okay. Tailgate nods as well. Spin it forward. Good call there. All right, we'll be ranking every quarterback who started a game in 2024, and we'll be back for 2025 on Monday. Come and hang out. Do it with us live, 11:00am Eastern Time. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom for Elliott. You can follow him at Bud Elliot. 3. You can follow him at Danny Canel. You follow me at chip underscore Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.
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C
Thank you.
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D
See you golf channel tomorrow, 11:30am September 4th on Paramount Plus.
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A
Someone is trying to frame us. Until our names are cleared, we're fugitives from interval.
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B
Like Bonnie and Clyde with better snacks.
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A
NCIS.
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B
Tony and Ziva.
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D
Streaming September 4th on Paramount Plus.