🚨 Michigan Fires Sherrone Moore | College Football

Summary

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Cover 3 College Football Podcast

🚨 Michigan Fires Sherrone Moore | December 10, 2025

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Overview

This emergency episode covers the stunning, abrupt firing of Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore. Hosts Chip Patterson and Tom Fornelli react in real-time to the news, break down the reasons for Moore's dismissal, discuss the immediate and long-term implications for Michigan football, and spitball possible candidates for the head coaching job. The episode captures the chaos and uncertainty of a major program suddenly needing new leadership, with the hosts riffing on potential hires, the difficulty of filling the position at this time of year, and the ripple effects on recruits and staff.

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Main Theme

Michigan abruptly fires head coach Sherrone Moore for cause, following a university investigation into inappropriate conduct. The hosts discuss what led to the firing, analyze the fallout for the Wolverines, debate top coaching candidates, and speculate on how this late development shakes up the college football landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immediate Reaction to Sherrone Moore’s Firing

• Announcement Details

  • [03:53] Chip Patterson reads the statement:
    • Moore was terminated “with cause, effective immediately following a university investigation. Credible evidence was found that Coach Moore engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. This constitutes a clear violation of university policy.”
    • Biff Poggi appointed as interim head coach.

• Surprise Factor

  • [05:25] Tom Fornelli:

    "Why can't these schools just let us live our lives?"

  • Chip and Tom emphasize there was no ‘hot seat’ chatter; even insiders are blindsided.

• University Policy and Buyout

  • [06:13] Chip Patterson:

    “Those words are so serious. Terminated with cause, effective immediately. Robbie Callan, Sherrone Moore buyout was a story that was written at one point. Guess what?”

  • [06:37] Tom:

    “And now it won’t have to be paid.”

  • Implication: Michigan avoids payout—major financial and ethical statement.

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2. Immediate Next Steps for Michigan

• Citrus Bowl Preparation

  • [06:44] Biff Poggi leading the team in the interim—will finish out the season, at minimum.

• Time Crunch

  • [07:10] Winter conditioning starts in about a month; Michigan will want a permanent coach swiftly.

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3. Coaching Carousel Speculation: Who’s Next at Michigan?

• Timing Problem
  • [07:27] Tom:

    “If this happens three weeks ago or, hell, a week ago…”

  • Many top options likely already off the market.

Top Names Floated and Commentary

• Matt Campbell (Penn State)

  • [07:36] Tom:

    “Matt Campbell is the very first name that should be at the top of the list.”

  • But he just took Penn State, making a move unlikely.

• Kalen DeBoer

  • [07:52–08:35] DeBoer to Michigan rumors, but he’s prepping for playoff with current team.

• P.J. Fleck

  • [09:10] First name on Chip’s rapid-fire list.
  • [14:25–15:56] Debated as a solid but uninspiring candidate—seen as a steady program-builder who would keep Michigan strong, even if not a sure national title winner.
  • [15:02] Tom:

    "If the only...based off of the results that I've seen in my lifetime, ...I think you want a program builder type."

• Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Kenny Dillingham

  • [09:15–10:01] Mostly dismissed by Tom and Chip for various reasons (timing, attractiveness, fit, current satisfaction with jobs).

• Bryce Underwood Impact

  • [10:15] Tom:

    “What does this mean for Bryce Underwood?”

  • High-profile recruit potentially in flux; replacement must reassure him.

• Jedd Fisch

  • [11:36] Both see potential value, as Fisch was a former Michigan assistant.

• Mike Norvell, Urban Meyer

  • [12:16] Mike Norvell mentioned; Urban Meyer dismissed as ‘hilarious’ but not likely.

• Other Coaches and the “Check-in-on-them” List

  • [26:04–29:12] Entertaining run-through: Eli Drinkwitz, Brent Key, Rhett Lashley, Dabo Swinney, Jeff Brohm, Kalani Sitake, Luke Fickell, Steve Sarkisian, Glenn Schumann, Clark Lea.
  • [29:57] Chip recaps:

    "Our check in on him list: Eli Drinkwitz, Brent Key, Rhett Lashley, Kenny Dillingham, Jeff Braum, Kalani Sitaki, Luke Fickell, Steve Sarkisian, Glenn Schumann, Clark Lee."

• Will Internal Candidates Be Considered?

  • [19:26] Jesse Minter noted but likely not viable due to show-cause issues.

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4. Impacts on Program and Recruits

• Bryce Underwood Decision Looms

  • [10:23–11:14]

    “Some of this has to be hiring someone that is going to convince Underwood to stay.”

  • Losing their top QB recruit could torpedo short-term plans.

• Recruiting Class and National Image

  • Michigan’s championship foundation and money are positives, but uncertainty could deter some candidates or recruits.

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5. Larger Implications in College Football

• Coaching Carousel Not Shut

  • [08:35–09:06]

    “You made this happen by saying the carousel had closed. It was done. It was wrapped. You said there weren’t going to be any more openings. Every coach had been hired…”

  • This surprise reopens the market.

• Potential for Other Coaches to Get Raises

  • [13:03] Chip and Tom jokingly note this kind of opening triggers a new round of contract extensions across the sport, even for tangentially related coaches.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On the shock of the firing:

“This is not one of those situations. So yes, we can bypass the pleasantries.”
[03:53] — Chip Patterson

"There are always rumors that you hear and, you know, most of the time they're all complete crap ... And then this happened today and it no longer seems to be dismiss worthy."
[05:32] — Tom Fornelli

On the seriousness of the situation:

“If the university says you messed up, you messed up, it's done. Like, those words are so serious. Terminated with cause, effective immediately.”
[06:13] — Chip Patterson

On the 'Check-in-on-him' coaching search:

• [29:57]

  "Our check in on him list: Eli Drinkwitz, check in on him. Brent Key, check in on him. Rhett Lashley, check in on him. Kenny Dillingham, check in on him. Jeff Braum, check in on him. Kalani Sitaki, check in on him. With cookies. Luke Fickell, check in on him. You got money. Steve Sarkisian, check in on him. Glenn Schumann, check in on him. Clark Lee, check in on him."

On program standards and expectations:

“I think it would be a perfectly fine place if that's where it landed. I don't know if that's going to be the name that excites Michigan fans ...”
[15:56] — Tom Fornelli, On P.J. Fleck

On the broader effect:

"This is a job that will be attractive to pretty much anybody. Quite literally won a national title two years ago. Like, there's no sitting coach that if you are — I don't care who you are — outside of maybe like Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, like, outside of a couple schools, you can't really be comfortable because they can win. They've won recently, and they have money, a lot, a lot of money.”
[12:36] — Tom Fornelli

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 03:53 – Breaking news: Sherrone Moore fired with cause, Biff Poggi interim head coach
• 05:23–06:41 – Initial reaction: surprise, gravity of ‘for cause,’ and buyout implications
• 06:44–07:27 – What’s next for Michigan: Biff Poggi and coaching search timeline
• 07:27–10:01 – Early possible candidates: Campbell, DeBoer, Fleck, etc.
• 10:23–11:14 – Discussion of Bryce Underwood’s future in light of coaching change
• 13:07–13:41 – Speculation about more contract extensions in the wake of another coaching opening
• 15:02–15:56 – In-depth look at P.J. Fleck as candidate and his program-building resume
• 19:14–19:55 – Addressing why Jesse Minter isn’t a likely candidate
• 24:53–25:51 – Thought exercise: What if Michigan had made the Playoff with Moore?
• 26:04–29:57 – “Check in on him” segment: rapid-fire potential coaching names
• 29:12–29:57 – Recapping the full list of speculative candidates

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Tone & Style

• Fast-paced, unscripted, slightly chaotic—reflects genuine surprise and the rapidly changing news cycle.
• Fairly irreverent, peppered with jokes and college football culture references.
• Analytical yet conversational, dense with names, rumors, and candid assessments.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a fast, thorough analysis of Michigan’s sudden coaching crisis, mixing hot-off-the-presses reaction with wide-ranging speculation on the coaching market. The hosts filter out predictable or implausible names, focus on the significance for Michigan’s current roster and recruits, and touch on possible ripple effects throughout the sport. By the end, listeners understand the how and why of Moore’s firing, the unique challenge facing Michigan’s administration, and the sheer unpredictability of the college football carousel.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Intro Announcer]

To the COVID 3 podcast with your hosts Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Danny Cannell and Bud Elliott. It's your call for the best college football coverage from national signing, national championship and everything in between. CBS Sports presents the COVID 3 podcast.

[Chip Patterson]

And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Frenelli. I'm Chip Patterson coming to you live YouTube.com cover three and everywhere. Get your podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe, smash that like and come and join us in the chat. Where they see those sirens in their feet, they know exactly what that means. Awfully strange to have a celebratory tone given the news I'm about to deliver coming across our desk just before 5:00pm Eastern Time. University of Michigan head football coach Sharon Moore has been terminated with cause, effective immediately following a university investigation. Credible evidence was found that Coach Moore engaged in an in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. This constitutes a clear violation of university policy and the University of Michigan maintains zero tolerance for such behavior. Biff Poggi has been appointed head football coach in an interim capacity, effective immediately. Sometimes there are hot seats. Sometimes there is smoke. Sometimes there is belief within the, you know, general college football community that a coaching change might be on the horizon. This is not one of those situations. So yes, we we can bypass the pleasantries. Unless you, Tom, were privy to this university investigation, were you?

[Tom Fornelli]

Why can't these schools just let us live our lives?

[Chip Patterson]

Chip.

Hey, listen, shrun board acted right, we would not be here right now. This is right.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean there I there are always rumors that you hear and you know, most of the time they're all complete crap and you just kind of dismiss them. And there have been rumors floating around coming out of Ann Arbor for recent weeks that I'd kind of dismissed. And then this happened today and it's no longer seems to be dismiss Worthy.

[Chip Patterson]

The, the. The thing that almost makes this easier, though obviously more difficult to get blindsided by such news from the perspective of trying to cover this and talk about this as quickly as possible with you and Everybody in the COVID 3 tailgate, is that I don't think we need to linger on the how we got there.

[Tom Fornelli]

Correct.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's just like an easy part for our, like, understanding what matters about this conversation. I don't, I don't know anything that goes on there, but if the university says you messed up, you messed up, it's done. Like, those words are so serious. Terminated with cause, effective immediately. Robbie Callan, Sharon Moore buyout was a story that was written at one point. Guess what?

[Tom Fornelli]

And now it won't have to be paid.

[Chip Patterson]

Now it's not, has not come to that whatsoever.

[Tom Fornelli]

So, yeah, Michigan, Robbie, he's the real victim.

[Chip Patterson]

I know. So that, that means that we can sort of fast forward so in the immediate future as the school announced Biff Poggy takes over. Biff Poggy can very much lead this team in the Citrus Bowl Prep and do what needs to be done to be able to fulfill the school's obligations for the rest of the football season. But we are also about a month away from the start of winter conditioning. And I would imagine that the University of Michigan, especially given the situations of the turnover, would be. Would like to make another full time head coach beyond Biff Poggy. So that, that leads us to our next piece of this. What now for Michigan?

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't know. Like, I. If this happens three weeks ago or, hell, a week ago.

[Chip Patterson]

Matt Campbell.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm telling you, Matt Campbell is the very first name that should be at the top of the list of who they're going to go after. And because, I mean, we've kind of talked about it like before Matt Campbell took the Penn State job, this Michigan gig was one. I always kind of felt like he was, you know.

That was on his list of the places that he would go and maybe it was at the top of that list and now it's open after he's just taken the Penn State gig. So I don't know. It's a, it's a similar situation. There has been some smoke about Kalyn DeBoer possibly being interested in this gig, but there was also smoke about Kalen DeBoer being interested in Penn State and that never really seemed to come to fruition. So it's, it's always tough to know where the smoke is coming from. Right. I feel like Kaylin DeBoer is currently busy with his gig right now. They've got a playoff game coming up here soon. I don't know if you're aware of that. They got in. It made some people angry.

Outside of that, it's weird because, like, you, you made this happen by saying that the carousel had closed. It was done. It was wrapped. You said there weren't going to be any more openings. Every coach had been hired, every coach had been fired, ready to move on, pack it up and go home. And. Yeah, you did that.

[Chip Patterson]

I. I think that I was express. I. I made it very, very clear that I did not want to declare it closed. I thought it was a good time to take a breath. Maybe that was. Maybe we should have been gagged this whole time until the carousel is officially done.

So here, I'm just gonna throw some names at you.

[Tom Fornelli]

All right, go for it.

[Chip Patterson]

P.J. fleck.

[Tom Fornelli]

Sure.

[Chip Patterson]

Brian Kelly. I do.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't. I don't think that happens.

[Chip Patterson]

Can I throw a few more? I like. I like these instant reactions. Then we can unpack the ones you're most interested in. Lincoln Riley.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, John. I don't think Lincoln's starting over.

[Chip Patterson]

John Harbaugh.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, I don't think the Harbaughs are coming back.

[Chip Patterson]

Mike Tomlin.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think Mike Tomlin would be a great college coach. I have no idea why Mike Tomlin would want to coach in college.

[Chip Patterson]

Kenny Dillingham.

[Tom Fornelli]

That could make a ton of sense.

[Chip Patterson]

If Michigan. Big times Penn State and takes Matt Campbell.

[Tom Fornelli]

If Kenny Dillingham ends up at Michigan, maybe he can afford Sam Levitt.

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[Chip Patterson]

But he's got a quarterback.

[Tom Fornelli]

But here. Okay, but this is one of those things. What does this mean for Bryce Underwood?

[Chip Patterson]

I think that Bryce Underwood's connection to the Michigan football program is tied more to the block M than whoever's wearing the headset.

Am I correct? Are you? That's what I was.

[Tom Fornelli]

He was. He seemed pretty connected to the. The LSU on the side of that helmet until he was no longer connected to it.

[Chip Patterson]

I know Michigan fans were discussing a potential change in coordinator, the addition of wide receivers.

I mean, if you're Michigan. Actually, this. Actually, the. We're. Again, we were talking about this. This happened less than an hour ago when this all broke. Now that we're talking this out, if you're Michigan, some of this has to be hiring someone that is going to convince Underwood to stay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I mean, I think you're going to full. Full court press trying to get Bryce Underwood to stay, because, I mean, losing him puts you in a Very tricky situation because you were kind of planning on building the team around him, and now you fired your coach. And if he leaves, it blows things up pretty quickly. What. What's the look, Jed?

[Chip Patterson]

Fish.

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Although, I mean, yeah, that's certainly. I think that would be. In play.

[Chip Patterson]

I think is a former Michigan assistant.

You know, he. We mentioned, like, Florida or ucla, nothing. And I never got the sense that he was. That might have been a him decision, but I never got a sense. As both of those searches were winding down, both UCLA and Florida, I did not get a sense that he was there at the table for those final rounds of. And again, I don't know whose side that is. That might have been Jed saying, like, look, I'm not. I don't want to be in this. But that's another one to look at.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think.

Danny and Bud aren't here. So Mike Norvell.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Should Michigan go after Mike Norvell? I'm doing you guys a favor. Urban Meyer and Olive Branch.

Urban Meyer would be hilarious. I don't. Again, this is. It's a job that will be attractive to pretty much anybody.

[Chip Patterson]

That's what I think.

[Tom Fornelli]

Quite literally won a national title two years ago. Like, there's no sitting coach that if you are. I don't care who you are. I mean, outside of maybe like Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, like, outside of a couple schools, you can't really be comfortable because they can win. They've won recently, and they have money, a lot, a lot of money, and they don't have to pay a buyout, so they can happily give you some of that money.

[Chip Patterson]

What about the.

What about the round of the nine different raises and extensions that came off the Penn State job? Are we all extensioned out, or is this going to lead to another round of raises and extensions?

[Tom Fornelli]

I think we're mostly extensioned out.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

But I mean, there are some coaches who maybe did not get an extension yet, and maybe they will, but I don't think it's going to be quite to the degree of what we'd seen, like, some of the names we mentioned, like PJ Fleck, I don't think has signed an extension recently. Maybe he gets one. Yeah, maybe.

[Chip Patterson]

Maybe.

[Tom Fornelli]

Maybe you just made PJ a couple million dollars.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, just to review, sort of my own scattershot. Scattershot list that was just, you know, like, just grabbing some names because I haven't gotten a chance to. To speak to anybody besides you on this one.

Official university release. I've got two children watching a movie and. And I did cut the stove off. Tom, you'll be happy that I did cut the stove off before I came upstairs for PJ Fleck. I think it would be tough to sell that to Michigan, but at the same time, I think PJ Fleck would be a perfectly fine Michigan coach if your standard is.

Being a pretty good Michigan football team.

[Tom Fornelli]

Well, I think PJ would be able to recruit pretty well.

[Chip Patterson]

Do you think PJ wins a national championship if he gets the Michigan job?

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't know. It's hard to win a national title.

I wouldn't bet on it being a definite outcome, but I don't think that Michigan would be bad. I think Michigan would be very much in the playoff conversation every single year. I, I think that, you know, it's, I mean, PJ's quirky last quirky coach. Michigan had worked out. Yeah. So I don't know. I, I, I.

I think that for Michigan, if the only. This is just based off of results that I've seen in my lifetime. They went like the play caller kind of route with Rich Rod, and that was completely fell flat on its face. I think you want a program builder type. And I mean, you look at Matt Campbell and what he did at Iowa State, that was what helped get him the job at Penn State. There's not, there's a lot of similarities what PJ Flex done in Minnesota. Like, Minnesota is not competing at the top of the Big Ten, but it is a far more consistent and solid program under PJ Fleck than it had been for a while. And then we also know what PJ was able to do at Western Michigan. I mean, he got the freaking Western Michigan Broncos to a Cotton bowl back when G5 teams were able to withstand the safety issues of playing in such games.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, now you're talking me into PJ Fleck being a perfectly fine place if that's where this lands.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think it would be a perfectly fine place if that's where it landed. I don't know if that's going to be the name that excites Michigan fans. I don't, I doubt it's the name that's coming straight to their head right now, thinking about it.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, it's like what you said about Matt Campbell in Penn State. No Penn State fan was, was excited about Matt Campbell, but by the time shout out to Matt Campbell, you see the video that he put out, bending the brim.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, listen, anyway, yeah, before, you know, when Penn State fans told you, no way, Matt Campbell won't be there, they also are cheering Matt Campbell. I think. I think that might be our Matt Campbell for this Michigan search. Minnesota coach P.J. fleck. I agree with you, Brian Kelly. Throw them out. These are names that I mostly grabbed from just the spitball and throwing anything on the wall that see what sticks. That's sort of happening all across the world, including here in the COVID 3 tailgate. Lincoln Riley. I'll stick to my early Lincoln Riley response. He's done too much good work to just bail right now. Michigan is healthy. Michigan has a lot of money. But he's the head coach at Southern Cal. He just had a nine and three season. He just got a number one recruiting class like they are trajectory moving in the right direction. I, I think that Lincoln Riley would not want to reboot that though. Lincoln Riley would fall into your Bryce Underwood sales pitch Canada.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, Lincoln can sell price on coming to la.

I think. I think Lincoln's happy in la. I don't, I don't know if Lincoln wants to move to Ann Arbor, which by the way is an absolutely wonderful town, but climate wise, it's a bit different than la. I think Lincoln's happy where he is a lot.

[Chip Patterson]

One comment in the tailgate that I did not have. Brian Hartline recently introduced head coach at South Florida. I did think South Florida. That's disrespectful to South Florida. I, I thought Brian Hartline could get the Kentucky job. I thought Brian Hartline could get some SEC jobs. Michigan would be a big jump. But yeah, I don't know what you read there.

[Tom Fornelli]

I do think that the trend that we've seen, like obviously Will Stein got the Kentucky gig, but I, I think that what we're seeing is most of the top Power 4 programs want established head coaches or they're promoting from within. You don't typically see coordinators getting those gigs right off the bat, especially when they're coming from other schools.

[Chip Patterson]

The, the Kalyn DeBoer intrigue is pretty, pretty fascinating.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, if Alabama loses in the first round, Oklahoma, that's why, because we're.

[Chip Patterson]

Going to run back the Iron Bowl. I'll tell you who's very interested in the Iron bowl is Penn State fans. Because if Auburn wins the Iron bowl, then maybe Kaylin DeBoer picks up the phone, now we're coming right back. It's like, I'll tell you who's very interested in Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan fans. Because if all of a sudden Kaylin DeBoer is one and done in the College Football Playoff, then all of a sudden he's available and now we're going to talk about that. I have no clue. I've got no clue if it even like incentivizes Kaylin Debor to lean one way or the other. Maybe he is more personally incentivized. Like I'm focused on my team and let that smoke continue to burn.

That's a. Because look, if Michigan gets Kaylin DeBoer, it's a really freaking good hire for the University of Michigan.

[Tom Fornelli]

And if you're Kaylin DeBoer, if you can't beat him in the title game, join him.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, if you're Michigan and you hire Kaylin DeBoer, you have upgraded your head coach without paying a buyout.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I would agree with that wholeheartedly. A lot of people in the chat are saying Jesse mentor I I don't have this in front of me but I'm pretty sure Jesse has a show cause related to the.

[Chip Patterson]

Along with Harbaugh and we always said well who cares, they're never going to come back. Also when I first saw 4 cause I definitely thought this was going to have something to do with the NCAA and the fact that it doesn't makes me glad we don't have to re litigate any of that. Like no, this is a totally separate thing.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. And I would say I've seen some speculation about why Michigan would be so open about it like in the release in the quote from Ward manual and it is because they don't want people to think it's related to the NCAA issues.

[Chip Patterson]

Bingo.

The John Harbaugh thing. My first thought is, well, the season is kind of going off the rails. I, I don't see him as somebody who bails on the team before the end of the season.

So I mean he doesn't. He's got a Super Bowl. I mean it's not like we're talking about a coach who needs to chase something. But we'll see. I mean who knows, maybe. Maybe Biff Poggy sticks around for long enough that Harbaugh becomes more of a a candidate there and the the same might be true for Tomlin Dillingham is interesting. You know that would be an unbelievable glow up for Kenny Dillingham. So we'll. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if I.

He'S not the surefire home run hire but he fits the mold if you want to hire somebody who's on the up and up. And he certainly would would bring a lot of passion, a lot of energy. He, he would have more resources, all the resources he's ever dreamed of.

Other good names. What about Jason Eck?

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't think Jason Eck is gonna be somebody that Michigan gets to unless a lot of people turn them down first. And that is not a knock on Jason Eck. It's just I don't know if he's got a long enough track record at this point to really be a legit candidate for the Michigan gig. And I would say the same thing of other guys like Sean Lewis, like, I, I think Michigan is going to choose bigger here because they went big with Harbaugh, they got a national title and then when Harbaugh left, they went with the internal promotion and it didn't work out well for him. Obviously not for, you know, football reasons, although the football wasn't good enough the last couple of years. But I just, I think they're going to want somebody who they know already has established their ability to not only run a program, but run a program of this size. Yep.

[Chip Patterson]

Coming up on the other side, more of our reaction to Michigan firing Sharon Moore. What's next for the Wolverines? And more next.

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And use code audio back here on the COVID 3 podcast. I'm going to.

[Tom Fornelli]

There was a question in the chat about why are we ignoring everybody saying Marcus Freeman? Because I don't think Marcus Freeman is going to leave Notre Dame for Michigan. Marcus Freeman is at Notre Dame, a job that in the near future now will be able to get an automatic berth in the College Football Playoff just by finishing in the top 12. I don't think Marcus Freeman is leaving Notre Dame for anything but an NFL gig. And I don't think he's leaving for an NFL gig.

[Chip Patterson]

What about.

Let'S see.

No way Matt Campbell could double back, right?

[Tom Fornelli]

That does not strike me as Matt Campbell.

[Chip Patterson]

I would agree with that.

[Tom Fornelli]

First, as committed and dedicated as he was to Iowa State, despite having many opportunities to leave, it doesn't strike me as the kind who would just pull the old switcheroo that quick. What about for you, though?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

So Michigan was a win away from being in the College Football Playoff. Sure. This investigation's been going on.

[Chip Patterson]

I don't know how long it's been going on.

[Tom Fornelli]

The rumor's been out for a while. So anyways, what if Michigan beat Ohio State and was in the College Football Playoff?

Are we still here right now?

Are we dealing with Michigan firing its coach 10 days before a playoff game for cause? I don't know. Maybe it's. Maybe it's more of a slap on the wrist.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, I mean, I just. I do think that because of the NCAA issues, they are, I would imagine, as a university administration, on the overly cautious side of things, you know, overly cautious, overly transparent.

[Tom Fornelli]

That, that is. It is a nice little thing to consider as far as, like, an alternate universe where maybe Michigan's getting ready for a playoff game and firing its coach.

[Chip Patterson]

What about Missouri head coach Eli Drinkwitz?

[Tom Fornelli]

Love Eli.

[Chip Patterson]

Could be great.

[Tom Fornelli]

Check in on him. See what his thoughts are. Great.

[Chip Patterson]

I think I would.

[Tom Fornelli]

All right, what about Brent Key? Could be great. That's on him.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. All right, here, let's. Let's do our check in on him list. All right, so we're doing Eli Drinkwitz. Check in on them.

Brent Key. Check in on them.

[Tom Fornelli]

Check in on them. Rhett Lashley. Check in on him.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, Rhett Lashley. You gotta check in on him. Kenny Dillingham. Check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

Check in on him. Dabo Sweeney.

[Chip Patterson]

Now, I'm not putting him on the check in on him list.

[Tom Fornelli]

Jeff Brahm.

[Chip Patterson]

Jeff Brahm. Check in on him. That could be a great hire for the University of Michigan football program. Sorry, my Louisville friends. I'm just calling it the way I see it.

[Tom Fornelli]

Kalani Sataki. You've got more money than the cookie boy does. You're Michigan.

[Chip Patterson]

It's a good list.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's like Michigan.

[Chip Patterson]

It's like Michigan's a good job or something.

[Tom Fornelli]

Dan Lanning. He's not gonna do it, but check in on him. Kurt Signetti.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, that was where I was gonna go. We spent time on this here Cover three podcast. Would you go hire one of his assistants?

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, I think that his assistants deserve far more attention than they're getting. I don't know if they would get the Michigan job.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't know if Michigan's gonna go for an offensive coordinator at Indiana right now or a defensive coordinator at Indiana. Yeah.

For no other reason that I'm not sure Michigan alumni would really look kindly upon taking Indiana.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, God.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's kind of. There's kind of a looking down your nose aspect to the Michigan fan base and looking down at Indiana, but the defensive coordinator from them.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

All right. Any. Any other names you want to make sure we get out here on the record for our. Just found out about it. Blindside firing of Sherwin Moore by Michigan.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, we could just keep naming names. Brett Bielema got. He's got a no compete, non compete in the Big Ten. Oh, Greg Chiano. You know who. You know who could reset the clock. It might actually be more effective at a program that has money to spend. Luke Fickle.

[Chip Patterson]

Ooh, Luke Fickle. Check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

Check in on Luke.

Let's see, where else can we go here? What about Pat Fitzgerald? Oh, no, he just took a job at Michigan, the same state.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm not. I'm not going to go with Gruden.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, I'm not going to go with Gruden. What about Sark?

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, Steve Sarkeesian. Check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's too tough. He's got to play all these tough teams in the sec. It's not fair. It's just not fair. Maybe he can go to Michigan.

What about Lane? Is Lane moved in?

[Chip Patterson]

Do you have a hot yoga studio? Better than the best one in Baton Rouge.

Glenn Schumann, Georgia defensive coordinator, would be.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think. I think that's the kind of coordinator. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Very sensible. Like that would make sense before the world went crazy. When it comes to this stuff. Michigan would fire its coach. You'd look at Kirby's defensive coordinator who's done a terrific job for multiple time SEC champion. Glenn Schumann would be one that I'd throw on there. Glenn Schumann, Check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

Clark Lee.

[Chip Patterson]

Clark Lee, Check in on him. But only if he's bringing Barton.

[Tom Fornelli]

Only if you bring Barton.

[Chip Patterson]

Only if you bring Barton.

[Tom Fornelli]

Or just hire Barton. Let Barton pick your coach. Why are you asking us?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, he was the one that originally figured out the dirt bikes.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh man. All right, so our check in on him list Eli Drinkwitz, check in on him. Brent Key, check in on him. Rhett Lashley, check in on him. Kenny Dillingham, check in on him. Jeff Braum, check in on him. Kalani Sataki, check in on him. With cookies. Luke Fickle, check in on him. You got money. Steve Sarkeesian, check in on him. Glenn Schumann, check in on him. Clark Lee, check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

Ed Orgeron.

[Chip Patterson]

He'Ll come to you. You don't need to check in on him.

[Tom Fornelli]

And through the front door now.

[Chip Patterson]

And through the front door now. Yeah. So yeah, lots more on this. We are going to be back Thursday, 11am Eastern Time where we will give you our big game breakdown and our locks for Army Navy. Then I imagine we'll also be talking about the latest as we learn more. Get dk, get Bud's opinions on this. More more discussion as we look ahead to what Michigan does next. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Friedel. You can follow me at chip underscore Patterson. Tom. Thank you very much Michigan.

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