Cover 3 College Football Podcast – Ion College Basketball NCAA Tournament “Mega-Pod Spectacular”
Hosts: Gary Parrish (GP) & Matt Norlander
Date: March 18, 2025
Main Theme:
Full NCAA Tournament preview and bracket picks—Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander go region by region, picking every game and offering insights and debate, with bracket strategy, upsets to watch, favorite storylines, and memorable moments for fans eager to dive deep into March Madness.
Episode Overview
The annual March Madness "Mega-Pod Spectacular" brings Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander together for a region-by-region preview of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament. The duo picks every single game—first round through the national championship—discuss bracket strategy, upsets, the influence of injuries and matchups, committee decisions, and memorable fan moments. They also share personal stories about filling out brackets, including Norlander's son's bold picks, and bring their trademark blend of insight, banter, and humor to break down the nation's most anticipated hoops event.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Personal Stories & Bracket Traditions
- Both hosts discuss family moments—especially Norlander’s son proudly filling out his own bracket, which sparks a reflection on the joys of passing fandom to the next generation.
- Norlander: “He didn’t even tell me he was doing it. He’s got some bold, zesty, spicy picks. I posted it to Twitter. A bunch of mutants... are insulting my son’s intelligence... Get over yourself.” (04:06)
- GP: “…I love when I walk in the room, and my little guy is listening to an album that I also appreciate... that’s a sweet part of fatherhood.” (07:29)
2. Bracket Game Picking Format
- Both revert to a region-by-region approach (rather than picking all games from each round at once), debating its clarity for listeners and offering picks from the “South” first, before moving through “West,” “East,” and “Midwest.”
3. SOUTH REGION Deep Dive (Auburn as #1 Seed)
Parrish’s Key Picks & Reasoning:
- Auburn over Alabama State (no 1-16 upset here)
- Louisville over Creighton—“Louisville was under-seeded but will benefit from playing in Rupp Arena.” (09:07)
- Michigan over UC San Diego, A&M over Yale, Ole Miss over San Diego State, Iowa State (even without Keyshawn Gilbert) over Lipscomb, Marquette over New Mexico ("picking with my heart there"), Michigan State advancing.
- Marquee upset: “My biggest upset in the South... I’ve got Ole Miss over Michigan State.” (12:14)
- Auburn advances to the Final Four.
Norlander's Key Picks & Reasoning:
- Takes more bracket risks:
- UC San Diego over Michigan: “They’ve got a really good defense that turns teams over and the Tritons don’t turn themselves over.” (13:13)
- Yale over Texas A&M (“A&M can’t shoot... James Jones has done this before.”)
- San Diego State over Ole Miss (unless North Carolina wins First Four: “If Carolina wins, I will take Ole Miss.”)
- New Mexico over Marquette: “An awesome battle with Cam Jones and Donovan Dent... I will take the Lobos.”
- UC San Diego to the Sweet 16—“I got them into the Sweet 16… one of the biggest stories of the tournament.” (15:01)
- Michigan State goes deep, but ultimately Auburn wins the region.
Debate on Threats to Auburn:
- Hosts play “Stay or Hit”: debating which lower seeds most threaten Auburn. GP points out committee flaws putting Louisville in Auburn's path “70 minutes from its campus” and both reflect on Michigan/Michigan State as big threats.
Quote:
- Parrish: “Auburn, the only team in the country that never lost to a team outside the top 20 in the net all season. Not one.” (70:53)
4. WEST REGION Deep Dive (Florida as #1 Seed)
Parrish’s Key Picks:
- Florida to the Elite Eight.
- Early upset: Drake over Missouri—“Missouri as a 6.5 point favorite over Drake seemed like a big number.” (23:26)
- Memphis’ Tyrese Hunter injury (“wishful thinking to return”) shapes his bracket—Memphis still advances over Colorado State.
- St. John’s, led by Rick Pitino, storms to the Final Four—“Number one defense in America... I think they can still win a national championship not doing it.” (25:16)
Norlander’s Key Picks:
- Takes Drake as well (“Bulldogs winning is... super duper trendy”).
- Maryland over Grand Canyon, Texas Tech over UNCW, St. John’s over Kansas.
- Florida falls to Maryland in the Sweet 16.
- St. John’s over Drake, then picks St. John's to go to the Final Four.
Notable Segment—Regional Travel Headaches:
- Maryland’s travel from East Coast to Seattle and back becomes a major storyline, highlighting the committee’s logistical headaches.
5. EAST REGION Deep Dive (Duke as #1 Seed)
Parrish’s Key Picks:
- Duke runs to the Final Four, beating Arizona and a surprise VCU (who upsets BYU and then Wisconsin).
- “VCU is a little like Memphis in the sense they got power conference players playing in a non-power conference league.” (39:20)
- “I’ve got the A-10 champions in the Elite Eight.”
- Norlander debates whether Duke’s path is genuinely the “easiest” among the one seeds; both agree Duke wouldn’t swap places with other top seeds.
Bracket Theory & Coaching Debates:
- Ancillary discussion about whether premier coaching jobs (e.g., like North Carolina) really require top-10 coaches.
- Segues into committee philosophy: avoiding situations where a #1 seed has to play a “de facto road game” against a strong underseed, referencing previous years' bracket issues.
Strategy Note:
- Norlander sees value in fading consensus picks: “Alabama is the highest scoring team in the country... If it catches fire, absolutely can beat Duke...” (59:41)
6. MIDWEST REGION Deep Dive (Houston as #1 Seed)
Parrish’s Key Picks:
- Houston beats SIUE, Gonzaga over Georgia, Clemson over McNeese State, Purdue over High Point (“I’m still partially Boilermaker…”).
- Illinois past Kentucky—“The injury stuff... becomes an issue for Mark Pope [Kentucky].”
- Tennessee over Utah State, Houston over Clemson, and then Houston over Tennessee in the Elite Eight.
Norlander's Key Picks:
- More risk: Utah State over UCLA, Kentucky gets the better of Tennessee to reach the Elite Eight.
- Ultimately also picks Houston to the Final Four, loving “the three-point shooting… L.J. Cryer, Emmanuel Sharp… knockdown shooters.” (72:05)
Bracket Principle Debate:
- Should top-10 predictive metric teams (like Gonzaga) ever be set up to face a #1 seed in the second round? Consensus is it’s unfair and the committee should adjust to protect #1s.
Final Four, Championship Picks & Notable Patterns
- Both have:
- Auburn
- St. John’s
- Houston
- GP’s Final Four: Auburn, St. John’s, Duke, Houston
- Championship game: Auburn vs. Houston
- National Champion: Auburn
- Norlander’s Final Four: Auburn, St. John’s, Alabama, Houston
- Championship game: Auburn vs. Houston
- National Champion: Houston
Running Joke:
- Comparing chalky versus spicy picks—each poking fun at the other for their “chalk master” or “bracket chaos” tendencies.
- Norlander’s son’s bracket gets repeated shout-outs for having Drake, a #11 seed, in the Final Four. (“He might be OVO—you’re raising a Drake fan!” (29:56))
Key Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Norlander to GP, on bracket complaints:
- “You start trying to get nuance on a podcast, it does not work. You just gotta scream one thing really loudly or another thing really loudly, but if you try to get nuanced, people get lost.” (20:59)
- Parrish, on the committee:
- “You look at most of the numbers—Louisville is not the type of team that beat Auburn this season.” (70:53)
- On St. John’s:
- GP: “There is nothing we’ve seen at any point in the season that suggests a game is going to get away from St. John’s.” (25:16)
- Norlander: “Part of it’s the losing and the lack thereof… only seven points total with four losses. It is the defense. This team is relentless. This is Patino… team will be well conditioned.”
- On Auburn:
- Norlander: “I can’t shake the feeling they’re going to have a dominant push to the Final Four… I think this team’s going to turn it on.” (72:05)
- Bracket humility:
- Norlander: “We are going to be terrible.” (76:42)
- GP: “I’m gonna be great.” (76:43)
Notable Timestamps
- 03:24 – Family bracket-making and social media reactions
- 09:01 – Start of South Region picks
- 13:13 – Norlander’s bold UC San Diego pick
- 23:26 – Parrish on Drake over Missouri (West region)
- 24:53 – GP’s St. John’s to the Final Four rationalization
- 39:20 – VCU potential for Elite Eight run (East region)
- 59:41 – Norlander's pitch for picking Alabama over Duke
- 70:53 – Auburn’s unique statistical profile and tourney resume
- 72:05 – Norlander’s rationale for a dominant Auburn tourney run
- 76:11 – Final bow, urging listeners to join their bracket pool
Episode Tone and Style
- High-energy, humorous, self-deprecating, deeply knowledgeable, and irreverent.
- Plenty of banter, especially around family, social media, and “chalk vs. chaos” picking.
- Unafraid to critique the NCAA selection committee and question bracket principles.
- Frequent digressions into personal stories, travel gripes, and quirks of bracket strategy.
Summary for Non-Listeners
This explosive, detail-packed “mega-pod” delivers everything a college hoops fan needs to prep for March Madness: full picks, reasoned upsets, committee critique, and the personalities and quirks of two of the best in the pod game. The episode blends personal story and rigorous analysis, making it both approachable for casual fans and essential listening for diehards trying to fill out the winning bracket.
