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Cover 3 College Football
Upon Further Review: College Football Playoff First Round Fallout, Bowl Week Previews, more!
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Chip Patterson
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Danny Cannell
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Tom Fernelli
Welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast.
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Chip Patterson
With your hosts Chip Patterson, Tom Fernelli.
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Tom Fernelli
Danny Cannell and Bud Elliott.
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Danny Cannell
It's your call for the best college.
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Tom Fernelli
Football coverage from national signing day to the national championship and everything in between.
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Dan from Heed the Call
CBS Sports presents the COVID 3 podcast.
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Chip Patterson
And welcome back to the COVID 3 PO here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fenelli, that's Danny Cannell. I'm Chip Patterson. Come to you live@YouTube.com cover3 and everywhere you get your podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe, smash that like and come and join us in the chat, aka the COVID 3 tailgate, where there is an obligatory oh Wait. Go Beeves. As the last time that we left you, I think that the onside kick had been recovered. Yeah, that's correct.
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Danny Cannell
Yeah, it was. As they recovered the onside kick.
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Chip Patterson
As they recovered the onside kick, we let Tom loose so that he could go enjoy the conclusion of one of the best regular season NFL games in recent memory. Tom, you've. You've made it back to us. So clearly you didn't ascend to the higher plane quite yet. You must have gotten close. Just how, how we feel. And go.
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Danny Cannell
Bears happy, excited. Bears won. They're in the playoffs thanks to Aaron Rodgers beating the Lions yesterday. Aaron Rodgers, I've always been a huge fan, always been a big supporter. I think he's a great guy. Love him. And yeah, the Bears beat the packers in a game that matters for the first time I can remember in a long time. It feels good. Feels good.
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Chip Patterson
Danny, did you stay up for it?
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Tom Fernelli
So I actually, I was planning on hopping on making an appearance on the Instant Reaction show Saturday night. You guys ended too early. I was at a Christmas party, got home late and I actually Bob was like, are they still going? They did not. So, yes, I did. I did. See, we got, we got the green.
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Chip Patterson
Light from authorities to go. All right.
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Tom Fernelli
I would have too, if I was you guys. Yeah, I absolutely would have.
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Chip Patterson
All right, so here's we've. We are gonna have our normal Monday. Upon further review. Great chance to bring Danny in on the conversation. From what we saw in the first round, a few coaching carousel updates, especially in a certain offensive coordinator. Looks like he'll be taking up residence in Chapel Hill. I'll be. I'll put my, my tourism guide together here in just a little bit. And a wild. Not a wild, but a loaded bowl Nanza as we get you set for a busy week ahead in bowl action. But first, let's start. It is a Monday. Let's go under the hood. It is. Upon further review. There were terrible calls. Do we want to go ahead and jump in after further ado. After further review.
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Tom Fernelli
Further review.
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Chip Patterson
Four games, a couple blowouts. You know, a low scoring rock fight a back and forth dk. What what, what continues to linger when. When you're coming out of the first. First round of the College Football Playoff.
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Tom Fernelli
So I think similar to what you guys think in most of the country thinks. I don't know what I learned any differently from Ole Miss or Oregon. Both handled the opponents pretty easily. I think they probably didn't have to show everything. They didn't have to play every player they took starters out, so I don't know how much I learned about them. And that's not really saying anything new. The other games I thought were really entertaining. I thought they were a ton of fun. I'll start with the Oklahoma Alabama game because I found myself in some hot water with some Oklahoma fans by calling them an average conference opponent for the Alabama Crimson Tide. And I am, I'm really kicking myself for picking Oklahoma in that game. And the thought process was, am I going to trust Ty Simpson in that Alabama offense to get out of the funk against that defense?
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Chip Patterson
Yeah.
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Tom Fernelli
But the question that's been asked on here a lot is, is Oklahoma's defense as good as they were made out to be? And if you dug a little bit deeper and looked how they did against the better offenses and even more specifically the better quarterbacks, they were not actually the 85 Bears. Like, surprisingly, they actually did have some vulnerabilities. And I still think they're a good defense. But I do think once again, when they were met with a good quarterback who finally stepped up and played like he had played the first, you know, nine games of the season and he didn't light him up. But most importantly, he did not turn the ball over, which is something Oklahoma has thrived on. I thought that that was, it wasn't that surprising. Now coming back from the deficit, you thought it was over. Thankfully, I didn't send it out any tweets like some people did and then deleted those tweets.
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Chip Patterson
I didn't know that till we were talking about it on the instant reaction.
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Danny Cannell
Oh, it was an epidemic.
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Chip Patterson
Hey listen, the private chat over here for the COVID 3 podcast has, has the receipts. So those of you who listen to the show and deleted tweets and in, in house stats cover three stats and research was taking notes.
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Tom Fernelli
We can screen grab, we know how to screen grab. So I, I, that's one thing. If I've learned anything in my 15 years as a broadcaster and as basically I consider myself a troll with a capital T, maybe you, you cannot say things until it is absolute certainty that the outcome is in hand. Just have to wait. I've been burned too many times by going early like a lot of people did, saying Alabama didn't belong. You have to wait till it goes final. But the major takeaway for me from that one was I think a lot of people are going to be fooled by Alabama saying, oh, they must be a national title contender. They went through Oklahoma's defense and they are, they're that good and they, they Figured out all their issues. I don't know if they have. I still think Indiana is really good. It doesn't mean Alabama can't win that game. I just think a lot of people are going to get fooled by that performance in that one game, thinking Alabama's issues are fixed, and I still don't think they're fixed.
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Danny Cannell
Only thing I disagree with you on is that you have to wait until it's over. Just tweet it. Who cares? It's Twitter. So you're wrong. Fine. Whatever. We're all living in the moment. It's. It's a damn tweet, okay? We all thought that game was over when it was 17 and nothing. So when.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, like.
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Danny Cannell
Like 99 of the world.
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Tom Fernelli
But to be like, oh, this shows Alabama didn't belong and have all those takes, I just thought it was way too soon. You got to wait till the results go final. That's my.
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Danny Cannell
Yeah, it's fine.
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Chip Patterson
I mean, it was. It was a tough. It was the tough, you know, a tough couple of moments throughout the weekend for a Notre Dame fan online. Right. Because you were just trying to look for every. Every, like, thing you could pick apart. Like, see, Alabama didn't belong. Like, we would have. We would have been so much better. Then Alabama comes back, and now you're just kind of confused about how you're going to take your position. You're looking at the 00 at halftime of the game, and you're like, you see, Notre Dame would beat either one of these teams as though those weren't the two teams that beat Notre Dame this season. I mean, it was just. It was a very difficult position, you know, to be able to. To try and justify. Because I do think that. I think. I agree with the fallacy of you cannot take College Football Playoff results as a way to determine whether or not a team should or should not have been there.
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Danny Cannell
Correct.
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Chip Patterson
Because. Correct. The. The process of selecting the teams is everything that's happened to that point. Then you get your access, and that is an entirely new challenge, an entirely new competition. And the judgment for that one is who gets to hoist the trophy this year in Miami on January 19th. So, like, I. I don't look at the lack of offense in Miami, Texas A M as a reason why either of those teams were different. I don't look at Oklahoma's collapse or Alabama's comeback as a reason that should or should not justify whether they were in there. I thought.
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Tom Fernelli
No, there is.
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Chip Patterson
There is some, like, oh, is this your first college football game? As though double digits, as though big swings don't even happen in Alabama games. Like Kaylin DeBoer's Alabama team. Was it Tom, I can't remember in SEC. Was it. Was it Dan Weiner, our friend who, who helps us out a lot? He was like this is every Kalyn DeBoer game and he might have called his shot like midway through the second quarter like this, like every Kalyn DeBoer game is just going to end up being like this. Washington had the lead against Texas and almost blew it. Quinn, yours had a chance to be able to win that at the very end. Just you don't know how it's going to happen. It's just always going to come down to, to the very, very end.
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Tom Fernelli
The other so I did have a take which I saw some people trying to dunk on me and I will double down on this one, including somebody who's wearing all his beers. Bears game today as gear I felt like the Alabama Oklahoma game. Regardless the outcome, I did not think either one of those teams are going to go on to win the national title. Could be wrong. Alabama might have caught some confidence. We'll see. But I did feel like the winner of the Texas A and M Miami game was a team. And so of course when it's 00 for Nelli's like, oh, you know, sure about that. You want to take that one back? I will double down on that one because I do think especially and I was kind of hoping it was Miami because I did think if that was a win on the road versus A and M that it would be one of those wins that sort of more reminiscent of what Ohio State did last year, kind of catching some fire, getting hot at the right team and if you saw their emotion after the game, what that game meant for them, clearly. And then I but I do think people are going to look at the the Hurricane say, well, that offense isn't going to be able to do anything. That offense. I think the wind was way more significant than even it was in Norman on Friday night. But having played in windy conditions like where it's gusting 20, 30 miles an hour and it's kind of consistent. I mean all you do is watch the sideline reporters. Their hair is like flopping all over the place. They showed the flags and it was wreaking havoc on all the Pat like both teams, I think Miami can figure out some things and I do think Carson Beck will throw the ball better. Does it mean he's going to light up Ohio State's defense no, but I think they'll be more. I think they can be a lot better offensively and more balanced in controlled environment like they'll be against Ohio State.
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Danny Cannell
I will double down on saying you're out of your mind. If you even have, like, go back, throw a Texas A and M in there. You have to look at the path that they face. Like, first of all, you had to win that game, which was hard, which they barely did.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah.
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Danny Cannell
Then you're getting Ohio State. And then after you play Ohio State, you're probably getting Georgia. And then after you beat Georgia, you're going to end up facing maybe Alabama, but probably Indiana, Texas Tech or Oregon. I don't think Miami can win four of those games in a row. I just don't. I don't think Texas A and M could win four of those games in a row. Hell, Texas A and M couldn't win one of those games in a row. We talked about their schedule all year. Their last two games were bad and are good and they lost both of them. I just. It's. No, Miami is not good enough to win the national title. They are good enough to give Ohio State maybe a pain in the ass and maybe even pull off that upset.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, that's. It's got to be another low scoring game. It's got to be a situation where instead of Malachi, Tony barely get. It wasn't even a shoestring tackle. But like, remember his. His cleat hit the back of his calf and he fell. It. It needs to be. You need all of those things to go the right way. Because I do think that what we saw, and I guess I didn't get a full chance before the instant reaction pod because we went from game to game to game. But to go back and listen to all of these coaches, winners and losers, that coming out of the game, Mike Elko was like, we lost it in the second half at the line of scrimmage. We couldn't block. We couldn't do anything. Like the wind was a factor, sure. But, you know, we should have been able to be more effective. And we just. We lost our ground. And that was where the game was decided. And we saw Julian saying in the Big Ten title game, kind of running for his life against Indiana, it wasn't always sacks, but it definitely changed the aspect. So for me, I do come out of the Miami win thinking kind of like, tom, there is a path to win that game. But the path is super low scoring, good bounces. Reuben Bain is the best player on the field and Your defensive line wins you a second straight game against elite competition. That can happen. I am not ready to jump on. You know, you take them out of College Station in Kyle Field, you put him in Jerry world and now with the like conditions advantage, Carson Beck is going to like be able to dice up this defense. I don't, I'm not ready to get. Take Carson Beck against Matt, Patricia and Caleb and like the rest of the.
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Danny Cannell
Secondary if you want to get into the advanced analytics. Last year, Ohio State lost to Michigan in their final regular season game and it just, oh my God, it made them so mad and they came out for the playoff and they just destroyed everything in their path. Their last game they lost to Indiana. You can.
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Chip Patterson
Guys, how pissed off are they going to be?
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Danny Cannell
Indiana, like if Ohio State had won the Big Ten championship and was playing Miami this next game, I'd be like, you know what? I kind of like Miami sides. Ohio State's feeling a little good about itself. A little fat. Beating Michigan, it's won the Big Ten. Feeling real good losing to Indiana and playing poorly. Oh, you're going to get death star Ohio State just like Tennessee did in the first round last year. They're going to come out firing and I'll also point out Marcel Reed was also dealing with that win. Daniel, I don't think Miami secondary would have had as good of a day as it had if it wasn't for the wind either. And I think that going into Ohio State with Jeremiah Smith and probably Carnell Tate back and the whole crew, I don't know, I just feel like it could be tough.
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Tom Fernelli
I will say though, and I. I do not, I will do our locks. What? One week from today we're doing our locks.
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Chip Patterson
One week from today we'll be doing our college football playoff quarterfinal locks. That will be the Monday, December 29th for our college football playoff locks.
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Tom Fernelli
Yes. I will say, don't you think Texas A and M was probably a little bit irritated after losing to Texas and a rivalry game who was really good and they're playing at home now.
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Danny Cannell
They were.
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Tom Fernelli
I think there's more parody. I think there's more parody that we are forgetting about in college football where I think Ohio State is really, really good. I think Miami has the offensive and defensive line to compete in this game. I think nine and a half points is way too many.
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Chip Patterson
Okay.
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Danny Cannell
There is parody. There's parody. After the first couple of teams, Ohio State and Indiana had separated themselves from the rest of the country pretty widely all year.
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Tom Fernelli
I disagree. Well, the rest of the country has been a lot of. I mean, and I've been a defender of the Big Ten, but they haven't exactly played a gauntlet. I mean, Ohio State versus Texas, and it was a long time ago and they're different teams. They didn't exactly dominate that game.
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Danny Cannell
Did Miami play a gauntlet? Because they lost twice.
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Tom Fernelli
They did. Against really good football teams.
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Danny Cannell
Eight. Really?
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Chip Patterson
Yes.
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Danny Cannell
Really good. Eight and four teams.
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Tom Fernelli
Yes.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. Okay. Seven and five for our Louisville Cardinals. We'll see if they can tackle. We'll see if we can tackle number eight.
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Tom Fernelli
All I know is Kentucky's a really hard team to beat. Oh, boy. Going to Kentucky is really hard to do. They do. They smoked them. So the other thing, upon review, I'll go one more and then stop hogging all the air time. There have been a lot of air armchair quarterbacks in the aftermath of both of these, or I should say all four. But two of the games that were entertaining, the two takes that I've seen that I cannot stand one from a winning team in Miami. That said Malachi Tony should have gone down. It did not cross my mind once. And I can only fathom what had. What would have transpired if Malachi Tony had gone down on the one and they centered the ball and they missed a field goal, which the kid was one for four. Can you imagine the heat? Mario Crystal ball is under for being conservative. Is being conservative. I had zero pro. It didn't even cross my line. I'm like, score the touchdown. And I think it was so easy as Texas A&M's driving the ball, say, well, they should have taken a knee. I. I had zero issue and I would have scored a touchdown just like they did. The other take that I heard from the Oklahoma game was Mattier should have ran the football instead of taking the absolutely wide open home run shot. But because it's a running back, he's supposed to tuck it and get the first down as opposed to turning down a wide open pass which he hit perfectly. The. The running back dropped it. I had no issue with that from John Mateer, but I think some Oklahoma fans were giving him a hard time. You're crazy. You take that throw ever you see somebody running wide open. I don't care who it is, you're throwing that ball. If you're John Mateer, zero issue with.
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Chip Patterson
That perfect throw, you're in the College Football Playoff. If you can't trust somebody on the field to make a catch, you shouldn't be there. You know, like this is. There's a Reason why you got to this game. Game number 13 for the Sooners. You make that throw because it's the play that needs to be made. Apologize to the Louisville Cardinals. You were 8 and 4. It was that 4 and 4 conference record that threw me off. Threw me off the scent.
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Danny Cannell
But yes, don't let Louisville out of the. The juggernaut that is the acc. They're unstoppable.
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Tom Fernelli
We're about to find out what is it tomorrow or today. The Bokeh Bowl. Wait till they unleash on. Is it Toledo? I think I saw some Toledo players at the mall over the weekend doing some shopping.
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Danny Cannell
Well, you just saw some like five, eight kids with some letterman.
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Tom Fernelli
They were kind of big. I saw like five. The couple must have been offensive linemen. They were all wearing their gear. Hey, Money.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. I was about to say we were.
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Tom Fernelli
Talking while Louisville was at Neiman Marcus. There are differences between power four and group of five.
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Danny Cannell
Hey, most of those Toledo kids will probably be playing for Louisville.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, I know because. Because Toledo we. We have discussed often is one of the resource advantaged teams, you know, so thank goodness they're at TJ Maxx.
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Tom Fernelli
You can get.
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Chip Patterson
You can get good stuff at TJ Maxx.
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Danny Cannell
The.
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Tom Fernelli
The.
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Chip Patterson
Let's see. The second piece of this is. Danny. The. The. The discourse are you. You dig. You digging out a corner here. You. You. You feel like you've got the perfect fix? Do you feel like what happened was an abomination for the sport of college football? I mean, was it just. Was it just disgusting? Was. I cannot believe the. I was. If the sport goes to hell, it went to hell on December 20th. Worst thing that could ever happen to the sport.
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Tom Fernelli
There's no winner in this one. There's no winner in dunking on the group of five teams. There's no winner in the group of five teams saying, well, James Madison covered. You know, it showed they could stay on the field. Nobody looks good. It's the sports problem. It's an issue that needs to be addressed. And only thing I would say that I feel like I was ahead of this is when it was only one group of five team. I was trying to say, are we sure every year we should guarantee one team from the group of five? Sure. If they're worthy, if they meet a criteria, it's good. But I mean, if you like. And I do think you have a much stronger case if you say you don't want group of five teams in there after the results. But I felt no matter what the results were, it's just something that needs to be addressed.
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Chip Patterson
Does it need to.
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Danny Cannell
No.
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Tom Fernelli
Oh, you're saying, does it need to be addressed?
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, like, I just. I just don't think the future of the sport hangs on.
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Tom Fernelli
Oh, no. Like, if they don't switch it.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah.
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Tom Fernelli
No, I don't think it's the end of the world. I just think it could get better.
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Danny Cannell
There will be one G5 team in next year, and we'll all be fine.
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah.
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Danny Cannell
You're probably. It's all this was. Again. We talked about it a couple weeks ago. Like, this is a. Like a black swan thing. Like the one in a million thing happens, and we all feel like we have to change everything because of the one in the million shot, and I don't think that's really necessary. And also like the idea of a G5 playoff. G5 schools don't even want that, let alone television networks.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah.
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Danny Cannell
And also every single player on those teams will have opted out or entered the transfer portal before the playoffs even start. So you're just getting a bunch of bad bowl games. You already have those games. So there's no G5 playoff. I will say my pawn. Further review along the lines of this discussion. Did James Madison really lose or did it just run out of time? If you look at the second half of that game, boys, James Madison had scored 28 points and had 312 yards of offense, whereas Oregon was held to 17 and 154 yards. Like, if we play another quarter or two, are we talking about the greatest upset in college football history right now? I don't know. I don't think enough people are talking about it.
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Chip Patterson
This is. This is the real burning question. I do think, hey, this. So did you. Obviously, we went. We went live before the final conclusion of the game. Oregon's players. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Danny Cannell
We.
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Chip Patterson
We kind of joked live on the air. It's like, God, you know, Dan's gonna love this. He's just gonna light into this defense. But that's. It's an interesting way for Oregon to prepare now for taking on Texas Tech. Because on one hand, was there something truly concerning about Oregon's defensive performance in this game? And if so, does that change the way that you look at the matchup against Texas Tech? Because a first before the College Football Playoff had started, a first read of a potential Texas Tech. Oregon quarterfinal for me went like this. Texas Tech's defense is amazing. It's one of the best in the country.
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Danny Cannell
We.
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Chip Patterson
Oregon's defense is pretty good. But where Oregon might get the edge is they're better at quarterback and they're better at wide receiver and that they are more like balanced and just better offensively. The Oregon statistical profile defensively is kind of top 10 in a lot of major categories across the board. Does Texas Tech's offense have a better chance to have success than we might have thought? Or was that the circumstances of a game that was just sort of like leveraged in a funky way based on the way it started?
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Danny Cannell
I, I don't think I'm truly concerned about Oregon's defense based upon that second half. I talked about it during the week. This is a team that has proven you can run against them because they've had like, that has been one of their, you know, it's. I don't call it a weakness, but it's a weaker spot of their defense. We've seen teams with good run games move the ball on the ground against them. James Madison, whatever the hell you want to say about them, like, as far as their ability to compete, eat and win this thing. They have a good run game between Barnett and Wayne Knight. That has been their bread and butter all year long. And they were able to do that on the Ducks to, you know, to a reasonable. I mean, they averaged over five yards per carry. Like, it's not like they were getting stuffed all night. So I, I think if you're Oregon, like this is a team that is in a weird spot in that defensively they haven't been great all year, they've just been good and offensively they've been dealing with so many injuries that you really haven't. It's a lot of guys who haven't really played together and then we're going to see next week. There's a very good chance because Evan Stewart was not, you know, he was listed as a game time decision for this game. It's a very good chance. Evan Stewart comes back next week, which is again adding another player who doesn't have any reps with anybody so far this season into the mix. It's just, it's a weird jilted thing. So I do. There is a part of me that wonders because like they were cycling some backups in. In the second half. There was a part of me wondering if it's like maybe we should keep the starters in there just to get reps together.
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Tom Fernelli
You know what I worry about?
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Chip Patterson
What?
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Tom Fernelli
All those injuries coming back because I think Dan Lanning is going to take it out on his team. I, I think it's sort of one of those games where you actually.
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Chip Patterson
Iowa week when we said the world are they doing in practice?
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Tom Fernelli
But I do think it actually. I think a win like that can be really good for a coach because you don't have to worry about getting cocky. You will be able to coach them up and say, how did you let up all those yards in the second half? You know, that's not championship caliber. You can get angry, you can get irritated. Coach him up pretty hard and I think he will. Right, Exactly. That's why I didn't take much out of the second half. I think there's. It's human nature to start getting more conservative with your calls on defense. You know, it's just you start kind of going through the motions. Jmu's playing for respect. It's just. I didn't take much out of it at all.
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Chip Patterson
And JMU had a good offensive game plan. You know, even from the jump, they were able to move the football effectively, which is so crazy that a team that won 12 games might have good coaching. I know, that's weird. Who. Who would have thunk that they might be able to get out there? They just couldn't get any stops because that was physics. That was not football. You draw up whatever you want to draw up. Will Stein and the Ducks had an answer with speed, athleticism and talent.
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Danny Cannell
So Texas Tech will get stops.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, I. Texas Tech is going to do worlds better in terms of slowing down or because I saw a comment in the tailgate. Does the defense even matter if the offenses are so good? I think Texas Tech's defense. Ooh, how about this one? Texas Tech's defense. Is it the best defense that Oregon has played?
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah, probably.
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Chip Patterson
Probably.
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Tom Fernelli
But I also think it's Texas Tech's best offense they have faced.
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Danny Cannell
I would also agree with that. They have not faced a Dante Moore.
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Chip Patterson
Indiana would be the only other team that you'd consider defensively that Oregon.
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Danny Cannell
Yeah. And I think that Texas Tech's defensive line is better than Indiana's.
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Chip Patterson
I mean, yeah, it's just a fun game. An absolute. That's the one where I think college football fans in general are super excited and. And maybe not all that confident. Right. There's just a lot of things, a lot of good going into the matchup and we'll just see how it all. How it all breaks down. Anything else from that? We want to get out here upon further review before we hit a break, news items and then get the folks set for Bol Nanza.
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Danny Cannell
Upon further review. The packers are frauds. And I can't wait to beat them again in the playoffs.
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Chip Patterson
Are they going to make the playoffs?
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Danny Cannell
Who knows? Maybe. They might fall out.
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Chip Patterson
We'll see. Anything else, dk Good. Coming up on the other side, a quick update from. From the coaching carousel. Some assistant coaching movement to note transfer portal Buzz and Bonanza and more nukes. Hey, it's Chris K from Target. Wishing you and yours a very merry Christmas. Hit it, Dasher. Give me some jingle bells. Dancer, Prancer. Let's hear a beat and mouse chorus. Oh, it's a beautiful job, everybody. All right, now, bring it home. Happy holidays, everybody. Back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Actually, let's, let's, let's play the music. Let, let's jump on that coaching carousel. We'll, we'll start with some pieces, some items we did not get a chance to circle back to. What this one. I know that, Tom. I, I don't remember. Well, Tom, you've got a good view on this. So the Pat Fitzgerald Michigan State staff is starting to come together. What's your read on, on the moves that he's making as we've got Fitz back in coaching and trying to help a Michigan State program that's sort of been sliding off the tracks a little bit?
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Danny Cannell
I mean, I think getting lavar woods from Iowa is a huge deal. Like, lavar woods has been the special teams coordinator at Iowa for a very long time. What is Iowa very good at?
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Chip Patterson
These special teams.
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Danny Cannell
And I wrote about it, I included a chart in there, and I don't have the numbers in front of me right now, but essentially since 2016, which is as far back as True Media's EPA stats go, I was special teams EPA is about 100 points better than second place and about 150 points better than third. Like, they have dominated teams in that area. So bringing him in, giving him the assistant head coach title, which is also because he wants to be a head coach one day, and I think that helps him get that. And, you know, maybe a few years from now, Kirk Ferent steps down. Lavar's had some time elsewhere. He can come back, he can be the next head coach at Iowa. But I just think that for Michigan State, like, you look at it and you think of, like how Pat Fitzgerald played at Northwestern and you think that they're a very similar team. Except if you look at that same EPA stat for Northwestern under Fitz, it wasn't very good. They were very much middle of the road. And the reason is, you know who you put on your special teams units, the backups, your athletes.
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Chip Patterson
Oh, okay.
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Danny Cannell
And Northwest never had any of athletes. So now he's going to be at a school where he's going to have more athletic players, he could put on his special teams and he has a coach that is the best special teams coach in the country. Like, I don't think it's going to be the kind of hire that makes Michigan State a Big Ten power, but I think it's definitely the kind of hire that is going to make a difference during the season and help them win games. It has certainly helped Iowa become one of the better teams in the Big Ten for how long now? So I just think that's a huge move and I also like a lot of the other assistant moves that he's made.
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Chip Patterson
I, I was gonna say Nick Sheridan's our offensive coordinator. So the staff starting to come together. Nick Sheridan was at. On Caleb Alabama staff.
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Danny Cannell
So I, I just think if I'm a Michigan State fan I, I'm really liking the early direction things are going in East Lansing.
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Chip Patterson
Danny, Bobby P. Is going to be in Chapel Hills. What it looks like our own Matt Zenitz bringing, bringing to the forefront something that had been bubbling beneath the surface.
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Tom Fernelli
The jokes will write themselves all right.
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Chip Patterson
Just set that aside.
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Tom Fernelli
But I think he's a really good football coach and I think he's probably one of those coaches who's probably better served as a coordinator where I don't know if like he's the best leader of an organization, leader of a team. I think his philosophies are awesome. Now I'm kind of curious to see does this help you attract it attract a quarterback that is an upgrade over Geo Lopez. So I think, but I think this helps. I think if you're somebody who's looking for an opportunity to put up good numbers to potentially make it to the NFL. Bobby Petrino makes that attractive. I will say the quarterbacks that he's done well with are all very physically talented. I thought Taylor Green was one of those. So I do think he needs. They need to find somebody to come and I'll be, you know, interested to see who they get out of the transfer portal.
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Chip Patterson
Bryce Baker would be a name to know. Yeah, Young good quarterback got hurt during his senior year of. Actually I might mix that up. Good, good young quarterback who actually I think I'm confusing him with a four star.
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Tom Fernelli
Right?
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. Four star prospect. They were excited about him. He was committed to Mac, stayed committed to the program, came in for the freshman season. That would be, that would be something to keep an eye on. I think their 26 quarterback was the one that got hurt during his senior year, but Bryce Baker, I remember his instant, his instant impression on the staff was such that he actually ended up being the choice for their pro day. Like when that, when the wide receivers had to pick, you know, who, who were going to have to, to throw for us, they, they wanted Bryce Baker to come and do it. So, yeah, I always took note of that. It was curious that they didn't end up going to him more often given Geo Lopez's struggles, but they just seemed really committed to Lopez through hell or high water. As long as he was healthy enough to go, Lopez was going to be out there. I've got to think that, I have to think that Bobby Petrino wants somebody who can be more effective of a downfield passer. Just to bring, yeah, just, just to bring a little bit of, little bit of explosivity because the, the opponents for North Carolina this year straight up did not respect the downfield passing attack, just defended them in such a way. It was like, oh, you're just going to, you're just going to do your knuckle dragon first down, second down, and then throw a screen pass on third. That's fine. Here's all of our bodies at the line of scrimmage and it made it. That's why you have an offense that ends up rating outside of the top 110 in the out of 136 FBS teams.
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Danny Cannell
Bobby might not care if you could throw the short to intermediate routes just as long as you can throw them deep. He's fine.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. So that, that certainly, like you mentioned, Danny, it's going to bring a lot about. A lot of, a lot of, a lot of commentary. But I mean, I think it's an upgrade. I'll say that got Bobby. He can still call. He can still call it. We'll see what the Tar Heels do as they've got a lot of work to do from a personnel perspective and they'll be facing a schedule that is about to get significantly tougher in 2026 in terms of its conference schedule cycling on a lot of the teams that they avoided during 2024. 5. Any other assistant carousel notes?
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Danny Cannell
Not that I have notes on, no.
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Chip Patterson
Okay.
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah.
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Chip Patterson
All right, Bonanza coming up on the other side. We get you set for everything from the Potato bowl here on Monday all the way to the Texas bowl on Saturday. Storylines, things to watch, leans and more nukes. Back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Always a thank you to Ryan for hanging out. He is here with us Live often. Pete Kwiatowski fired as defensive coordinator.
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Danny Cannell
Oh, yeah.
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Tom Fernelli
Oh, you guys haven't hit on the.
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Chip Patterson
Must champ and Must champ and Will Must champ is hired. We've not brought it in.
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Danny Cannell
I mean, I. I think Sark finally realized what the problem on his team was and made the decision, had to fix the defense.
- [36:11]
Chip Patterson
Well, this. This is actually potentially one of my. One of the things that, you know, always makes me smile and, you know, the years that we've been doing this, I latch on to something as a narrative, and I talk about it, and I really think about it, and I sometimes go all the way to believe it, but it certainly is something that I assign value. The continuity of the Texas coaching staff is something that people close to that program would tell you is a key to their success. And Texas fans sometimes would be a little bit more cautious about it. But, you know, I would just be like, yeah, I can buy into that. We've got all this turnover. Look at all these coaches that have to replace assistants every year. I. I wonder if that did end up being a. Not as much of a positive as a negative, and that the loyalty to some of those assistants now has become a criticism and that the dismissal of Pete Kwaikowski might be the sort of beginning of realizing that things have gotten a little stale and that some new blood, new ideas, different voices, might actually be something to help Texas. Is that fair?
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Danny Cannell
Sure.
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Chip Patterson
Okay. Did you never.
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Tom Fernelli
It always goes.
- [37:22]
Danny Cannell
I just.
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Tom Fernelli
There's. You got to remember this, a relational business with the coach. I know it's transactional, but I do think there's relationships. Think we always assume if you're winning and you're close, things are great. I. I don't. I don't think this is a major red flag. I think it's pretty good hire for Texas. You know, it's not a diss on Pete Kratkowski. I just think Will Muschamp's a really good coach.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. I just found it entertaining that the thing that they said was one of the greatest strengths might have also been something that needed to change for Texas to take the next step. Like, it's great that you've had the exact same staff for five straight seasons. We are the only power conference program to hold this coaching staff together, you know, all the way through. And now it's like, yeah, well, maybe we need to mix things up a little bit. And Texas fans might even say that you should look at Kyle Flood, the offensive coordinator, and that there's still a little bit of, you know, protecting your guy. Going on there based on. Based on the way that the offense went this year with Arch. But will. Will Muschamp is. I mean, he's a dog, you know.
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Danny Cannell
And wait to see him screaming at people some more. I'm always. I love Must Champs. I. There needs to be like a just a Must Champ cam during every Texas game, during any game he's ever at. You need to have a camera on him at all times and just have it in the bottom right corner next to the score bug. Just. He's hilarious.
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Chip Patterson
All right, bowl action starts this afternoon with the Idaho Potato Bowl. Washington State, Utah State. Washington State coach Jimmy Rogers, of course, is off to Iowa State. His offensive and his defensive coordinator will stay being able to handle some bit of continuity. Utah State, of course, wrapped up year one with Bronco Mendenhall, top wide receiver, not going to be playing in this game because Bronco has said if you're hitting the portal, you can get out. We don't want no half in, half out attitudes here. So. So what. What do we have our eyes on in Boise this afternoon? Kickoff coming as we are live right now. Kickoff coming about two and a half hours.
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Danny Cannell
I like Broncos. Big bad boys here. Washington State has dealt with a lot of coaching turnover, obviously, but they're also. They've got plenty of guys out, like dudes who are in the portal, dudes who aren't playing in this game, dudes who are injured. Whereas, yes, Brandon Pagan's not playing for Utah State because Broncos get out, but pretty much their entire roster is available other than him. So I just think that Utah State is in a much better spot from a continuity standpoint. And that I think matters a lot in games like this.
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Chip Patterson
Same.
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Tom Fernelli
But isn't it. Was it Kirby Moore who was excited about the Mountain west and the move they're making? The Mountain west.
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Danny Cannell
Oh, to the PAC 12.
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah, but he said Mountain West. Yeah, I'm going with Utah State just for that flub alone.
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Chip Patterson
They've got it. They've. They're a little bit more dialed in on the ongoing university. Did you see that?
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Danny Cannell
Just shows you how serious the conference is. Worse. Coaches are very much aware.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. What ended up. Did y' all see something got knocked down off the table at Bob Chesney's UCLA press conference?
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Danny Cannell
No.
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Chip Patterson
And he. It was like he was walking up and I mean, it just. It was like, you know, athletic director sitting down, I think, and then he's walking up and then something gets knocked down and he points. He goes, that's a fumble. That's on you right there. And if it was Martin Jarman, the U.S. uCLA athletic director who already has been a character, you know, in the UCLA adventures, I, I, that could have been very, very prescient, you know, head coach blaming the athletic director for something that it, that didn't go right. But we'll see.
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Tom Fernelli
I'm assuming his opening. Well, it wasn't the opening press conference, but I'm assuming he got off to a better start than DeShawn Foster. Yes, I'll just say that.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, I would agree with that. You mentioned it earlier Tuesday. We've got Louisville and Toledo at the Boca Bowl. You give him a goal. We going?
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Tom Fernelli
I have an invite. Gotta see what's going on. Might have to go check it out.
- [41:18]
Chip Patterson
Girl's gonna go.
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Tom Fernelli
Maybe. I'll probably. My youngest might want to go with me. The older ones don't want any part of hanging with dad anymore. My 13 year old, she might want to go. She's asking a lot about football. So she likes football.
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Chip Patterson
She's, she's still got like.
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Tom Fernelli
The older ones will check the uv. They'll want to know what the UV is, if it's a beach day or not. That's what they'll be, that's what they'll be worried about.
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Chip Patterson
I was gonna say, I was gonna say the older ones only are coming if you've got field access.
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Tom Fernelli
They do that as well. They kind of all do that.
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Chip Patterson
What? We're not gonna be on the field. New Orleans bowl. Oh, Tom. What are we doing to Poke Bowl? What do you like?
- [41:54]
Danny Cannell
I mean, six and a half feels kind of disrespectful. I know Louisville's got some opt outs. Like Chris Bell's hurt, Conga's out, Bailey's out on defense. But like, Toledo's coaching staff is gone. They're starting their backup quarterback. They're leading, you know, pass rushers out. I just honestly, if Louisville can't cover the six and a half here, it really hurts Danny's credibility with Miami.
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Tom Fernelli
No transitive properties in play in the bowl season.
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Chip Patterson
If Louisville can't cover six and a half, I need to adjust my coach ranking for Jeff Brom.
- [42:28]
Danny Cannell
If, if Louisville can't cover six and a half, they need to take Miami out of the playoff and put Notre Dame in their place.
- [42:34]
Tom Fernelli
Right.
- [42:34]
Danny Cannell
Go back.
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Chip Patterson
I did see a stray comment, you know, like, does Mario Crystal Balls win in the College Football Playoff? And does this season change the way that you would rank him on a coach ranking ballot?
- [42:49]
Danny Cannell
Yeah, it's also, there was also a lot of classic Mario in that win. They just didn't lose because of it.
- [42:56]
Chip Patterson
Like, he's not a top 10 coach.
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Danny Cannell
We're all like they were. Yeah.
- [43:03]
Chip Patterson
Two, two timeouts in the first 12 minutes of the game.
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Danny Cannell
That's to save, like, what, five yards? I mean, like a third and 19.
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Chip Patterson
The beginning of the game is when you should be the most buttoned up. But, you know, it'd be like that Tuesday night down in New Orleans. Western Kentucky and Southern Miss. Of course, Southern Miss head coach Charles Huff is off to take the Memphis job. I think I still might like the Eagles here.
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Danny Cannell
Yeah, I think, you know, Southern Miss is a dog. I understand why, but I just feel like there's a lot to be made. Fading Conference USA outside of Kennesaw and Jacksonville State, especially when they're favored.
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Chip Patterson
Western Kentucky was a little disjointed this season. Didn't always, didn't always click. And it wasn't always pretty when it did not click. Tuesday also has UNLV against Ohio. Dan Mullen. We just, we back. We back in the rebs.
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Tom Fernelli
I am.
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Chip Patterson
Did I see is.
- [44:07]
Tom Fernelli
Is the.
- [44:07]
Chip Patterson
Whoops today?
- [44:08]
Tom Fernelli
Is the king in the portal again or is he out of eligibility?
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Danny Cannell
He's not in the portal. You sure? I'm pretty sure.
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Tom Fernelli
It's had a pretty good year.
- [44:17]
Danny Cannell
He might be in the portal eventually, but he's not in there right now.
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Chip Patterson
Can a team built from the portal be dismantled by the portal? I don't know.
- [44:28]
Danny Cannell
I don't know. You would imagine so. I, I, let's be blunt. The vibes around it. My Bobcats right now are not good.
- [44:35]
Chip Patterson
Not good. Oh, I guess we do deserve an apology for that one. I don't know. We didn't know all the details.
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Danny Cannell
Yeah, those details came out after. The only details we knew at the time of the show last week was that he had, like, Urban in his desk.
- [44:48]
Chip Patterson
Yeah, all right. We, we were a little. I will admit, I'll offer a, you know, shout out to the trap draw. I'll do a man culpa on that one. We were a little. We were a little loosey goosey with the, the head coach issues at Ohio. We thought this was only a drinking on the job situation. We were unaware of the inappropriate relationships elsewhere.
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Danny Cannell
But to be fair, now we know what drinking on the job could lead to.
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Tom Fernelli
That's right. By the way, Calandria did say, he's not going anywhere. I'm not leaving. So maybe another reason to back you. Nlv.
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Chip Patterson
Why would you. Right. I think Dan Mullen, if I. This is like total, not unrelated, but if I'm a quarterback and I'm living in Las Vegas and playing football for Dan Mullen, that's a. That's a pretty good existence, right?
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah, absolutely. Chance to make the group. To make be the group of five representative playoffs, for sure.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah, that's. I mean, Mountain West UNLV should be the kings of the Mountain west with this shift that we're about to see. Like that is a. That is a team that should go 11:1 or 12:0.
- [46:03]
Danny Cannell
You know, I think like the Mountain west and the PAC12 should like unite and form like a Super Conference, a G5 Super League. All right, fine, whatever.
- [46:15]
Chip Patterson
Because then we wouldn't have common opponents, then we're still going to have to calculate opponent's winning percentage.
- [46:20]
Danny Cannell
Well, you put a divisions.
- [46:24]
Chip Patterson
You mean like the whack? Yeah, yeah. Christmas Eve, we'll have Cal in Hawaii. We're gonna throw this on. I'll take first half. That's about all I've got.
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Danny Cannell
This. I will make sure this is on the television at my sister's house on Christmas Eve so the family can gather around and take in the. The joy and the spirit. And I like Hawaii.
- [46:50]
Tom Fernelli
They've been tough to beat on the island.
- [46:55]
Chip Patterson
Impress all of your family members with Jaron Kiave, Saga Polotelli. Yeah, pronunciations on lock.
- [47:02]
Tom Fernelli
And even more so Tom. He's coming back. I didn't know until you guys told me.
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Chip Patterson
Awesome. Listen, I understand the Ducks defense. Yeah, they. They kind of. They kind of fell apart down the stretch, but that's just because Tasha's just doing so much to get Cal ready. Calgorithm Cover 3 is here for you. We're in in 26. This is a cow football podcast. Start next season till you burn us. All right, so then nothing from Tom. Nothing on on Thursday. That would of course be a Merry Christmas to all of you. Then back on the 26th, this is when things get really, really busy. So Friday the 26th, we start with the game above Sports Bowl. That is in Detroit. Northwestern against Central Michigan, Minnesota against New Mexico in the Rate Bowl. And then Friday night we've got UTSA against FIU in the First Responders Bowl. Danny, which of those three really stand out to you?
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Tom Fernelli
I'll go with fiu. Coach Simmons down there. I just was talking about him, the job he's done coming forward. A and M. I met him a few times in Tallahassee, talking up there. They've been to their first bowl, I think since 2019. He's had a phenomenal job since he's been there. I think this is a good opportunity for him against Jeff Traylor's squad to kind of get, you know, one more step forward. Although I don't think it's going to be easy for them as a six point underdog. But I, I kind of like FIU.
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Danny Cannell
Here really into or interested in the Rate Bowl. New Mexico and Minnesota. New Mexico coached by Jason Ek, a Wisconsin alum. I don't know if you know, but Wisconsin and Minnesota bit of a history there, bit of a rivalry situation. So you know New Mexico is going to be taking this game seriously. But at the same time, all due respect to Jason Neck and those Lobos who've been a fantastic team this season, I do, I do feel it's a bit disrespectful to have a Big Ten team is only a two and a half point favorite against New Mexico. Feels a little, feels a little.
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Tom Fernelli
I don't know to be there though. Who wants to be there?
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Danny Cannell
DJ loves bowl loves bowl games so I just players oh yeah Drake Lindsay gonna make a statement going to next year's QB1 and NFL Draft mock boards. Not since Mitch Leidner have we seen such Minnesota quarterback love from the draft.
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Chip Patterson
Analyst 7 and 2 in bowl games. Is P.J. fleck.
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Danny Cannell
Getting a good scout? Good scout.
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Chip Patterson
Great scout. He all he just always has a really good scout scout also. So then that'll take us on into Saturday, a loaded day of bowl games. I'll give you the full rundown and then we can sort of pick out some of our favorite storylines, picks, liens or elsewhere. Get started with the Military bowl. That will be pit against ecu the Pinstripe Bowl, Penn State against Clemson. The Fenway bowl has army against Yukon. That's the second straight Fenway bowl for the Yukon Huskies Pop Tarts bowl at Georgia Tech, byu I mean that's, that's just a really good football game. Arizona bowl has Miami Ohio against Fresno State, San Diego State, North Texas in the New Mexico bowl then Missouri Virginia in the Gator bowl and LSU and Houston in the Texas Bowl. Tom open platter loaded Saturday of bowl games. What are some of the things that stand out to you?
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Danny Cannell
I'll leave the Pop Tarts bowl to you boys. I'm going to go with the New Mexico Bowl. I think San Diego State North Texas could be a very, very, very fun matchup although obviously North Texas situations of losing its coach master maker being in the portal But I just think San Diego State's very good team and you know, they sent me a helmet. They are a wagon. They're going to win that game. I'm also just for narratives. I'm really interested in lsu, Houston in the Texas. Because one of two things will happen. Either Houston will beat lsu, which would be a huge kind of like bragging right thing for that program while Lane Kiffin is in the booth watching it happen and talking about or a terrible, horrible, no good LSU team, a disaster team will beat a Houston team that was one of the better teams in the Big 12, which will then lead to a whole lot of SEC hooting and hollering about how bad the Big 12 is and how great they are. And frankly, I love both of those outcomes.
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Chip Patterson
Houston with the win against Florida State in the Peach bowl, it would kind of have echoes of that in terms of no beating a logo opponent and being able to sort of prop it up as a, a building block. They actually celebrated the 10 year anniversary, I think of that of that bowl win earlier this season. Had Greg Ward in the house for that game. Danny, what's what from Saturday slate stands out to you.
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Tom Fernelli
I like the Gator Bowl. Virginia versus Missouri. The Matt Zollers era gets off to a start. A little SEC ACC matchup. Chandler Morris trying to finish strong. Tony Elliott after right on the brink of getting to the College Football Playoff and coming up short. The collapse against Duke. How do they respond? Ahmad Hardy, assuming he's playing, that'll be a tough task for them to bring him down. It's a fun game.
- [52:15]
Chip Patterson
I think it's a very fun game.
- [52:17]
Danny Cannell
Eli was quick with that tweet, boy.
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Tom Fernelli
I mean it was like within 10 minutes of the news that dropped.
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Chip Patterson
So Drew Pribula is going to Virginia Tech, right boys?
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Danny Cannell
But yes.
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Chip Patterson
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Danny Cannell
I believe that's Franklin, huh? Yeah.
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Chip Patterson
No, I, I, I, I'm not saying I, that's not a reporting like that's hey, so like we can.
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Tom Fernelli
Oh yeah. I mean that doesn't open till the second of. Clearly he doesn't know where he's going.
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Danny Cannell
That's what we, that's the scuttlebutt.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. James Franklin and Beau Pribula are about to win the acc.
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Tom Fernelli
Reunited. Reunited.
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Danny Cannell
How about that pinstripe bull?
- [52:49]
Tom Fernelli
Yeah, it's going.
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Danny Cannell
Two miserable teams. Freezing.
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Tom Fernelli
No playing for pride. These are culture programs.
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Chip Patterson
Yeah. No, that's why Clemson's gonna win this thing, you know.
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Tom Fernelli
Yeah. Terry Smith is coaching as the interim coach. They will that players love Terry Smith. They want to go out and impress Matt Campbell last audition. But a lot of Clemson for The first time though, Clemson players, a lot of opt outs for Clemson along the defense.
- [53:20]
Danny Cannell
You got to wonder about the culture there.
- [53:25]
Chip Patterson
What is it that, that Lou Gehrig said today? I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth. Well, today the Clemson Tigers are the luckiest team on the face of the earth. It's a good day to be a Clemson Tiger as he's accepting the Pinstripe bowl trophy. Yeah, no, he's. Dabo's gonna make this thing like the national championship. I cannot wait because. Do you remember when he beat Florida State? Well, anytime that you can beat the Noles, it's a good day. You know, like no mention of the current state of Florida State or the current state of Clemson. I, I think, I think Dabo's gonna do a great job of, of reframing that one. And my Pop Tarts bowl intrigue is not like Pop Tart related at all. You know, I just, I, I'm counting on Brent Key, I'm counting on Kalani Sataki. I'm counting on sort of the fabric of these two teams to both be fired up for it. Got a got word this morning from, from Mike Flynn. Excellent, excellent resource from within the Georgia Tech athletic department. They've, they've sold out all their bowl tickets. Georgia Tech fans are, they're excited, you know, they'll be there. And BYU fans, as we've seen that the Big 12 championship and elsewhere, they can travel. I, I think it'll be really, really fun. You. This game could be the Pinstripe Bowl. This game could be the New Mexico Bowl. This game could be the Boise Idaho Potato Bowl. I think that I would count on the coaches, the quarterbacks and the teams to be able to go out there and give us some, some really good healthy competition. So I'm fired up for that one for sure.
- [55:00]
Danny Cannell
Game to keep an eye on from a gambling perspective, the Fenway Bowl, Yukon army, you might see that spread be like man army minus eight and a half. That's that you're asking a lot of an option team against a Yukon team. That was pretty good. Well, obviously Jim Moore is gone, so that impacts Yukon. But the other thing to consider is the current forecast for that game is calling for temperatures in the mid-20s. How excited are you to stop an option rushing attack when it's 5 degrees outside? How, how interested will you be in A getting in front of the blockers to like, you know, to cut a blocker and then also B, get in there and make that tackle? Probably not very so you might want to consider some army overs in that game.
- [55:42]
Chip Patterson
Hold on, let me write that down on the notepad.
- [55:44]
Tom Fernelli
I just like Army.
- [55:46]
Chip Patterson
Yeah, just lay it.
- [55:47]
Tom Fernelli
Yeah. And we mentioned that our whole Pro bowl pregame preview show that we did, where we picked them all. Chip.
- [55:53]
Chip Patterson
Oh, when we did 40 bowl pick preview videos.
- [55:57]
Tom Fernelli
Yes.
- [55:58]
Chip Patterson
The day after they were all announced.
- [56:00]
Tom Fernelli
Yes. Without knowing who's playing in any of them and what coaches are coming or going. Yeah, I remember those. But the one, one common theme that I had across mall is I trust our troops because they want to be there. What they start, they finish.
- [56:13]
Chip Patterson
Put me and Danny, put me and Danny in a two and a half hour shoot. By the end of it we are just like, are you kidding? They opt in, they don't opt out. They opt in every day to serve in America.
- [56:25]
Danny Cannell
The United States Army's first battle was in Boston. And this one will be too.
- [56:30]
Chip Patterson
Yes. Also talking about the tackling in the cold, that makes me remember last year's American Athletic Conference championship game when Tulane went up a better two lane defense than this year's two lane defense went up to play Army. And it just, we were watching in Indianapolis and it just looked like it was not fun to tackle at all whatsoever. So I could see something along those lines as well. Okay, again, loaded week of bowl games. After that gets rounded up, we will be back here on Monday, December 29th for our college football playoff quarter final locks. That's right. Our best bets against the spread. Continuing the competition for the cash app trophy that as we get you set with what you should be paying attention to for all four of the College Football playoff quarterfinal matchups. Our thanks to all of you for a wonderful, wonderful week. I hope you enjoy the holidays as well. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom for now you can follow him at Danny Cannell. Follow me at Chip Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.
- [57:38]
Danny Cannell
FTP.
- [57:40]
Tom Fernelli
See ya.
- [57:42]
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