Week 10 INSTANT REACTION: Texas-Vanderbilt, Oklahoma-Tennessee & More | Cover 3 College Football

Summary

Cover 3 College Football Podcast: Week 10 INSTANT REACTION – Texas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Tennessee & More

Date: November 2, 2025
Hosts: Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Bud Elliott
Episode Theme: In-depth, rapid-fire analysis and emotional responses to the major results, chaos, and playoff implications from Week 10 in the college football season.

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Episode Overview

The Cover 3 crew gives instant reactions to a chaotic Week 10 full of upsets, shakeups, and defining performances, especially in the ACC and SEC. They dive deep on Texas-Vanderbilt, Oklahoma-Tennessee, major upsets (Miami, Georgia Tech), playoff picture turbulence, and trending teams — all with their trademark blend of insight, statistics, and candid humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

ACC Mayhem: Upsets, Collapse, and "The ACC Virus"

• Georgia Tech’s Stumble (03:00–07:00)
  • NC State upsets Georgia Tech, putting Tech’s at-large playoff hopes on life support.
  • Bud: “If they do not beat Georgia, they are not getting that at-large. They've contracted a terminal case of ACC.” (06:34)
  • Defensive failings and a costly loss shift Tech’s postseason calculus.
• Miami’s Routine Meltdown (07:17–11:57)
  • Miami loses to SMU: “We never believe in them again. ... They beat themselves. It's just a routine thing.” – Tom (07:20)
  • Miami’s physical edge is questioned: “SMU was getting push on Miami’s offensive line, which we have routinely praised here.” – Chip (11:03)
  • Coaching predictability and repeated “boneheaded decisions” under Mario Cristobal get called out.
  • The loss stings more with Rhett Lashley (former Miami OC) now SMU’s head coach.
• ACC Playoff Math & Futility
  • Multiple teams' realistic paths to the College Football Playoff narrowed dramatically.
  • “Everybody's going to catch ACC. It's the most spreadable virus since COVID.” – Tom (09:49)

Texas Survives Vanderbilt, But Questions Remain

• Defensive Control, Offensive Explosives (18:00–20:57)
  • “Texas defense, especially the DL, made Vanderbilt really uncomfortable all night.” – Bud
  • Texas hits rare explosive plays but is still inefficient in the red zone: “If Texas was a good red zone offense, it’s never that close.” – Tom (19:53)
  • Arch Manning praised for his composure: 328 yards, 3 TDs, no turnovers, but skepticism persists: “I still don't think Texas is that good.” – Tom (20:57)
• Vanderbilt Fights Back
  • “Vandy will say it's part of their DNA: never quit. They ran off 21 straight to make it close.” – Chip (18:50)
• Playoff Implications
  • “They’ve got it all ahead of them...but they haven’t solved the red zone.” (20:59)

Oklahoma Rides Ground Game to Beat Tennessee (30:32–32:58)

• Unexpected Rushing Dominance
  • Oklahoma’s 192 yards rushing is highlighted as the x-factor: “That is far and away the best rushing performance this season.” – Tom (31:01)
  • “For them to get that on the road? If they can keep that, it gives them a shot down the stretch.” – Tom (31:52)
  • Tennessee’s failure to finish drives and Oklahoma being “stronger at the line of scrimmage late” really surprises the hosts.

Georgia’s Gritty Culture and Slow Starts (21:25–25:54)

• Survival Instinct & Weaknesses
  • Georgia’s fourth win this year when trailing or tied at half gets dissected.
  • “Georgia has great fight...as long as they just keep playing hard, they seem to figure it out.” – Bud (22:00)
  • Slow starts raise flags: “Is it part of their culture? I don’t think so, but it’s part of their 2025 DNA.” – Bud (24:48)
  • Key defensive stand cited as pivotal: “Their linebackers are so fast, it’s impossible to simulate in practice.” – Bud (26:05)

Playoff Picture & Rankings Debates (81:00–End)

• Top 25 Projections & Playoff Outlook
  • Nitpicking the relative positions of Texas, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, and others after Week 10’s chaos.
  • “I have Texas at 11...but the big test for AP voters is: do you move them ahead of the ACC teams who all embarrassed themselves?” – Chip (82:16)
  • Playoff confidence for Michigan, Notre Dame, etc.—skepticism persists for teams without statement wins.
• Heisman & Star QB Discussion
  • “Julian Sayin is lights out...He puts the ball in perfect places every time. He’s very freaking good. ... It worked out for CJ Stroud, it’ll work out for Sayin.” – Tom (47:03)
  • Light banter on Ohio State's continued horsepower and Heisman candidacy.

Power Conference Coaching Watch

• Clemson Cooked, Dabo’s Future in Question (51:09–54:39)
  • “Dabo, 6-6 would be a great finish—that would mean you win three of your last four!” – Chip (52:01)
  • “Duke called Death Valley Spirit Halloween. Oh my God.” – Tom/Tailgate (51:54)
  • Staff shake-ups likely; program at a crossroads.

Group of Five Notes and “Wagon” Watch

• Mountain West: San Diego State Declared the “Wagon” (69:54–70:20)
  • 7-1 ATS, covering by over 15 per game. “We have our first wagon of 2025, and it’s your San Diego State Aztecs.” – Tom

Other Notable Results and Humor

• West Virginia, Texas Tech, Jeff Sims, and More (61:21–66:11)
  • “Texas Tech’s defense set up 20 points off turnovers...They could still get to Dallas.” (60:18)
  • Jeff Sims’ long TD run and Arizona State’s scrappy coaching get praised.
• North Carolina Celebrates a Win
  • “Celebrate what you get...Probably not a bowl team, but celebrate the wins you get coming home.” – Chip (79:50)
• Odds and Ends
  • Deep Power Five and G5 notes, playful World Series banter, and the show’s classic quips about “ACC virus,” T-ball teams, and “quality loss looking teams.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Miami

• “We never believe in them again. ... They beat themselves a lot and it’s just a routine thing that happens with that program.” – Tom (07:20)
• “They know exactly what Mario Cristobal is going to do. There’s no shot in hell he’s dropping back to throw in that situation.” – Tom (12:17)

On Georgia Tech

• “They’ve contracted a terminal case of ACC.” – Bud (06:34)

On Georgia

• “Georgia has great fight. I don’t know how we quantify that, but they just seem to have a belief they’ll figure it out as long as they just keep playing hard.” – Bud (22:00)

On Oklahoma

• “If they get that [run game] the rest of the season, that gives you a better shot to win these games. That’s the big story going forward for Oklahoma.” – Tom (31:52)

On Julian Sayin (Ohio State)

• “He puts the ball in perfect places every time. ... He’s not just an ordinary ass quarterback surrounded by talent; he’s very freaking good.” – Tom (47:03)

On San Diego State

• “Not only are they first place in the Mountain West, they’re 7-1 ATS, covering by 15 ppg. Wagon! We have our very first wagon of the 2025 season.” – Tom (69:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:00] – Georgia Tech’s upset loss and implications
• [07:17] – Miami's recurring failures and SMU's breakthrough
• [18:00] – Texas-Vanderbilt: Defensive battle, red zone issues, Arch Manning
• [21:25] – Georgia’s grit, close wins, ongoing offensive concerns
• [30:32] – Oklahoma-Tennessee: Oklahoma’s run game explodes
• [47:03] – Julian Sayin’s star power and Ohio State’s Heisman case
• [51:09] – Clemson's collapse, Dabo’s crossroads
• [60:01] – Texas Tech’s defensive domination & Big 12 hopes
• [69:54] – San Diego State declared “wagon” of the season
• [81:00] – AP Poll, playoff projections, teams on the rise and decline

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Final Thoughts

Chip, Tom, and Bud combine detailed analysis with humor and candid takes, cutting through the noise of a chaotic Week 10. They highlight how the playoff picture is in flux, blue bloods have real weaknesses, and the “ACC virus” can strike anyone. Texas and Oklahoma survive but don’t fully convince; Georgia’s culture bails them out again; and upstart programs and new “wagons” (San Diego State!) create energy down the stretch. As always, the Cover 3 tailgate remains college football’s sharpest (and funniest) instant reaction pod.

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Useful for anyone who missed the episode and wants a comprehensive, vibe-rich breakdown of college football’s wild Week 10!

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[A]

And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fornelli, that's Bud Elliott. I'm Chip Patterson. Come to you [e-mail] cover3 and everywhere you get your podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe, smash that like and come and join us in the chat aka the COVID 3 tailgate where gentlemen they were asking for us to wait until World Series Game 7 between the Toronto Blue Jays and the Los Angeles Dodgers was over. But here's the problem. I don't know when that's going to be.

[D]

Could be 18 innings.

[A]

Currently it is the bottom of the ninth. It is tied four to four. Yamamoto's coming in to the game and yeah at some point during this, during this instant reaction podcast we will probably have a world champion of Major League Baseball but lots to get to. We are also officially in the final moments of Oklahoma what looks like it's going to be Oklahoma's win on the road in Knoxville against Tennessee. Utah already out to a 10 point lead against Cincinnati. The the night slate has provided some fireworks in in terms of like the the game of significance between two teams. It it you'd want to grab a hold of the ranked on ranked but I don't. I I kind of, I kind of want to go to Georgia Tech. I mean is this what's going on in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

[C]

I mean, I said three of the four teams were going to lose.

[A]

You did say three and we got two.

[C]

Only two?

[A]

Yeah, only two. That's right. So Miami goes down, Georgia Tech goes down. Miami loses at SMU. The Hurricanes fall to 4 and 11 under Mario Crystal Ball after October 31st. Not great. Also with the loss for Georgia Tech, now you're going to start to look at does this team even still have an at large bid? Lots of college Football playoff implications as we are still looking ahead to Tuesday's rankings release. The football of it all, I guess. Was there anything about the Georgia Tech result that surprised you?

[D]

I mean North Carolina State did not have Hollywood Smothers or Justin Jolie. Jolie Haynes King threw for 400 yards and rushed for a hundred and Georgia tech lost by 12.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

What this, this did make me go back and look a little bit like, hey, should we have seen this coming more with this Georgia Tech defense, right? They give 20 to Colorado, like okay, whatever. That was largely because they turned it over a million times there early on in the ball game. 21 to a Clemson team whose offense this year has struggled, you know, pretty mightily. They gave up 24 to Temple, but some of that in garbage time obviously. 29 to Wake Forest. In hindsight, I know it was an ot. Wake's offense is pretty sketchy. So like if, if you had had the results of FSU wake today, right? Like with how bad wakes offense looked against FSU's defense, maybe like okay, this is a little bit harder game for Georgia Tech to go play. Like is it concerning that they gave up 29 points, you know, in Wake? Possibly. I mean obviously Virginia's like, well sorry they haven't played Virginia yet, but like Virginia Tech, that's not a great offense. Duke has been very up and down at times this year.

[D]

Q.

[C]

So they got the, the backup quarterback. So like if you want to play, you know, Saturday, Sunday morning quarterback, I guess in theory, but I did not see them putting up almost 600 yards of offense like that without those guys that came out of nowhere. I don't think Tech is a top 10 or even really top 15 quality team. But like today they didn't play like a top 40 quality. I mean that defensive effort was ridiculous.

[A]

C.J. bailey hobbling around in the first half of this game is going to have a sore sore Sunday. But man, it was worth it for a top 10 win for this NC State team. They are, you know, on the right side. I guess you flip this result, you've still got Miami and Florida State, it's going to be tough. And of course North Carolina. So you, this was really good for your bowl hopes. A good moment for Dave Doran obviously as well. But I don't have any big picture NC State stuff. This is just very much a Georgia Tech screwed the pooch situation where given what you had left, we were talking about what you needed to do against Georgia. Is there such thing as a quality loss against the Bulldogs at the end of the regular season? Well, now you put yourself in an entirely different situation because unlike Virginia's loss, the Wolf Pack, this is a conference loss. Now. The Yellow Jackets have given up a little bit of an edge that they had. And Bud, you were shaking your head earlier. Georgia Tech's resume now is, I mean, what do they have?

[C]

Yeah, I really thought that Tech was probably not going to get in that large bid, but that it was possible prior to this. Now if they do not beat Georgia, like they are not getting that large.

[D]

They have contracted a terminal case of acc.

[A]

I mean, one bid league, right?

[D]

No, there's. Listen, there's still a path for two.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, if you, if you get the easy draw, you need to cash it in. Yeah.

[D]

Like if Tech wins out and then loses to Virginia, an undefeated Virginia in the ACC title game, they're getting two in. It's just, it's. The odds of that happening are extremely low, but it's still not dead.

[C]

So if Tech wins out, which would.

[D]

Include a win over Georgia, right? Yeah. It loses to Virginia in the ACC or beats Virginia in the ACC title game and Virginia has one loss, they're both in. I would agree with that.

[A]

Okay, so what do we do with Miami?

[D]

I'll tell you what we do with Miami. We never believe in them again. We never buy into anything that they're doing. I don't care how talented they are, how well they're playing. We never believe that they're going to continue playing well or that they're ever going to avoid doing dumb and losing games they're not supposed to lose as long as just the way that that team is like. Like I texted you earlier, Chip, Miami could win 75 straight games. And for the rest of my life, I'll still be like, yeah, but they're probably going to blow this one. I'm done never believing in them. And it's not because they lost to a bad team. They went on the road and they lost to an SMU team that's pretty good. And SMU team that's been in as many ACC conference championship Games as they have in a far shorter amount of time. But man, just they beat themselves a lot and it's just a routine thing that happens with that program. And yeah, the Toronto and yeah, so two guys just ran into each other outfield but one made the catch.

[A]

But this is the.

[D]

Miami would have dropped that ball. Miami would have dropped it. Miami would have lost. But they.

[C]

Oh my God.

[D]

But yeah, I'm done with the Canes. And they're. If you look at them like they have can they. Are they technically still alive in the ACC title race? Like if they went out, is there an actual path for them to still get to Charlotte? They need like a lot of help. Right. Because they're at large. Bid is dead.

[A]

They have I think it is too jam of other teams that they have to get past and they have some really unfortunate tiebreakers in terms of common opponents and the way that that's going to end up counting as I understand it.

[C]

So we, we say they're at large. Bit is dead and I think, I think I'm willing to say it's on life support. There is a team on the top left of our screen there though that they beat and they have the head to head with who also has a pretty good chance to finish 10 and two and they have two wins or two losses here by six and three. Like are we sure Notre Dame's in over them with the head to head?

[D]

Yeah, because I think that Notre Dame's. They look at Notre Dame and say they lost to two good teams and I don't know how good they're going to look at SMU in Virginia at the end of the year.

[C]

Smu, Louisville.

[D]

I'm sorry, smu, Louisville.

[C]

They might look at Louisville like, hey, that's an 111 team.

[D]

Louisville nearly lost to Virginia Tech today. Yeah, I don't know. Everybody's going to catch acc. Everybody's getting it. It's. It's the most spreadable virus since COVID Nobody can avoid it and there's nothing to do to keep from getting it.

[A]

All right, well, Bud, how much do you assign the, the Miami failures as a Miami issue and how much of it is like a, you know, the, the. There is not that much margin between the ACC teams this year.

[C]

Well, I mean isn't that a Miami issue on its unto itself? Yeah, yeah, they're, they're related issues. Right. There's not that much margin between ACC teams because Miami has not pulled ahead. My goals are pretty guilty of this as well, given what you spend on.

[A]

Hey, y' all snap the streak. I mean, this is like. This is. This is a good day.

[C]

ACC win, y'.

[A]

All. ACC win.

[C]

That's right. That's right. Take care of weight just like you knew you would. No. So I. Man, I just feel like they cannot put teams away. Like you. You would think the run game would be a little bit better than it is. Like, they stick with it in 40 for 159. And, like, that's not like a whole lot of stuff lost to sacks, right?

[A]

Dude. And yardage situations that Miami faced when they were not able to get those conversions and they were just committing to saying, we're going to run the football and SMU was getting penetration. They were like getting. Was it Webb, right, the interior defensive lineman for smu? Yes. I mean, yeah, they were like, pushing off Miami's offensive line, which we have routinely praised here. I thought that obviously it's a massive win for smu. Throw up all the historical notes. First win against the top 10 opponent at home since the 70s. You know that we just had Rhett Lashley agree to the contract extension. I mean, what a weekend in Dallas for that SMU football program and the university community. But at the same time, bloody. This is. This was a. This is a Mario special here. It is tough. Tough to swallow.

[C]

Real hard if you're Miami to watch Rhett Lashley beat you, to watch Manny Diaz go and beat Clemson today. Like the. The two guys who were at that program when Miami wasn't investing in the program and now obviously they're out spending everybody in the ACC by a pretty good bit and they're still losing these conference games.

[D]

You mentioned Chip SMU able to get penetration on, like, those short yardage situations despite Miami having a great offensive line. Why are they able to do that? Because they know exactly what Miami's doing. Because Mario crystal ball is. There's no shot in hell Mario Cristobal's dropping back to throw in that situation.

[C]

Because you're going to get duo. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You know he's running duo and you.

[A]

Know he's running right in the A.

[D]

Gap and he's going to try to man ball you to death. And then it's. So it makes it a lot easier to get off the snap and stop that when you know exactly what's coming. Every single time it's. Miami is more talented than the rest of the accident. Too often it doesn't matter because of decisions that are made. And that's from the players like Carson Beck makes bad decisions, too. I'm not putting it all on Mario. But I'm just saying they make a lot of boneheaded decisions with what they do and it's a constant. And when it happens once in a while, whether it's a player doing it or it's the coaching staff, when it happens once in a while, it's like, okay, people all make mistakes, but when you're doing it repeatedly, that's kind of just who you are.

[A]

Does that apply to Carson Beck as well?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

No. I'm not gonna put every interception on him, but damn, the overtime one was that good?

[C]

No, that. That I think was on him.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the overtime one was on him, but the one that was to Trader where he like trader didn't want to get hit and he didn't quite squeeze that ball in, pops up, obviously ends up going the other way, but man, he. We've got a head to head. If you're watching on YouTube.com cover three of Beck and Jennings, Jennings was doing that on one leg. We saw a lot of one legged quarterbacks out there. Jennings gutting it out, finding ways to be able to evade that Miami pressure. And yeah, just a, just a really, really, really bad, tough loss for the Miami Hurricanes. Now, we are leading with this, of course, because Miami is one of two ACC top 10 teams that both lost. We'll get into more from the acc, including, I see you in the tailgate. Don't worry. We'll talk about Friday night's historic moment for the game of football, you know, before we get out of here. Coming up on the other side. Yeah, let's talk about the Southeastern Conference. Let's talk about Arch Manning. Arch Manning. Arch Manning. Arch Manning. And what Oklahoma did in Neyland Stadium. And more next. This show is brought to you by BetterHelp. You know, as the days get shorter and it starts getting dark even before dinner, it can really affect your mood. This time of year, it's always important to check in on the people that you care about. Maybe friends you haven't seen in a while, maybe teammates who might be going through it quietly. Just sending a text or meeting up for coffee can make a huge difference. And honestly, reaching out for therapy can feel the same way. It takes that same bit of courage. But once you do it, you usually find yourself thinking, why didn't I do this sooner? BetterHelp makes that step a lot easier. They have over 30,000 licensed therapists and their matching process helps you find someone who really fits your needs. You just fill out a short questionnaire and BetterHelp does the work. Of pairing you with a therapist. And if it's not the right fit, you can switch anytime. It's therapy designed to meet you where you are. So this month, don't wait to reach out. Whether you're checking in on a friend or reaching out to a therapist yourself. BetterHelp makes it easier to take that first step. And Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com cover three that's three spell it out. T h r e e betterhelp.com cover three that'S better. H e l p.com/c o v E R T H r e e betterhelp.com cover 3 so I made the new Eggo protein waffles the other day for my boys and no surprise, the kids loved it. They've got that same great Eggo taste we all know and love, but with an irresistible twist. 20% of your daily protein in every serving. And let me tell you, protein has never tasted this good. I mean, my kids couldn't believe they were pretty protein waffles. They just wanted more waffles. They're made with wholesome ingredients fresh from the griddle. And honestly, they become an easy part of our breakfast routine. It doesn't matter whether we have a little bit of syrup, maybe a little bit of butter, or you know what, even just plain because it's so simple and so delicious. These waffles deliver an excellent source of complete protein, 10 grams per serving, without compromising on flavor. Because let's be real, if it doesn't taste good, no one's gonna eat it. But these. No one can say no. Head to your local grocery store to fuel up your morning with eggo protein waffles and pancakes. Available at retailers nationwide. Back here on the COVID 3 podcast snap call here. Would you want ghost runners for extra innings in the playoffs?

[D]

No. No. All right. Good. Christ, Chip.

[C]

Come on, Chip.

[D]

Thought wasn't during the 18 inning game the other day, other night, there was a point where in the 15th inning where I was like, well, maybe in inning 15 you put them in.

[A]

Well, especially because they were doing the intentional walks of Otani.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I am basically a ghost runner.

[C]

We're just.

[D]

No, because. Because I'm old and I wanted to go to bed but I was pot committed.

[A]

So Texas back. Are we in? What do we see that we liked from the Longhorns.

[C]

Defense defensive line like still I thought played really well in that game made Vanderbilt uncomfortable. And Texas found a way to hit explosive plays today for the first time. I know they had they did have some long sustained drives which they have also not done a great job of this year. But like the, the ability to scheme up some explosives, that was different. We had not really seen that out of this Texas offense all year. And when you're having to play against that defense which is really like we talked about this on the Monday show or the was it Tuesday show basically like look that with that defense you just can't really drop them past a certain point in the power ratings because they do get stops like pretty, pretty reliably and like that. That's, you know Vandy's not a team that is probably super well equipped to play from behind. So like the right game State makes sense.

[A]

It is obviously a deceiving final score given the way the game. I mean sorry that's, that's not fair to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, that's. It's. They will say it's part of their DNA. They never quit, they always keep fighting and that's how they run off 21 straight points to be able to make this a three point final result. But man, to your point, Bud, it felt like Texas's defense had him bottled up by just saying we're not going to sit back. I understand that your offense has a lot of options where you want us to sit back and read. We're just going to send all of our incredible future NFL players right at the quarterback. I mean just sure try to get that little shovel pass, try to try to have that ball handling to get the eye discipline off but it's. We're just going to come right at the quarterback. And because of Texas's talent, What you.

[C]

Got 10 tackles for loss for Texas and 65 sacks.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Six sacks, one tackle for loss for Vanderbilt.

[D]

Yeah, score was somewhat deceiving in but the other way like Texas had five red zone possessions but it had to settle for a field goal twice. If Texas was a good red zone offense, it's never that close.

[A]

In the end, Texas hasn't been a good red zone offense, quality competition for a couple years now.

[D]

But you asked what they did well besides defense like Arch played well. A lot of his yardage came after the catchy but they did hit the explosives. He didn't make mistakes, he didn't turn the ball over. Threw for 328 and three touchdowns and they ran the ball like I'm not going to say they ran it well but they looked better. Overall the final results weren't great but I just thought watching their run game I, I saw signs of improvement. You know what I mean, compared to how it has been for most of the season, I was like, all right, I see something here. But yeah, I just. It was, it was a win. I just. Yeah, I, I still don't think Texas is that good.

[A]

But they've got it all ahead of them.

[D]

They do. They do.

[C]

I think they're going to play a much better offensive line in A M now. Yeah, like, much better.

[A]

But are they going to play a much better offensive line in Georgia?

[D]

Better?

[C]

I don't know if it's like.

[D]

It's not Texas A M good, but it's. Yeah, better than Vanderbilts, I think.

[A]

Speaking of, the Bulldogs have won four games this year where they were trailing or tied at halftime. That is, I believe, tied for the most among all of fbs. Is it just that culture or, or, or what do we attribute this, this Georgia survival instinct?

[D]

I would say that the SEC is like the Big 12 and that there's a lot of very good teams, but no truly elite teams. And none of them are ever really able to break away from other.

[C]

I think Georgia has great fight. Like, I don't know how we quantify that, but they just, they seem to have a belief that they're going to figure it out as long as they just keep playing hard.

[A]

I, I am stunned and encouraged by your step into the vibes room because that is. I, I'm with you. I am 100% with you. I mean, this is where I go back to Kirby telling us about how this team is young, you know, and. But super talented, but young. And they don't have the Jalen Carter, the Jordan Davis. They don't have a lot of these obvious players. I mean, we've, we've given Allen a bunch of love all throughout the season. Wilson had a couple, couple good plays, a couple bad plays. But, you know, for the most part, we don't have these superstars anywhere. We all know Gunner, Stockton and Gunner. You know, Gunner stepped up and delivered a couple plays late, but I, I think the survival instinct is a, Is a feature, not a bug about this Bulldogs team right now.

[C]

I would agree. Did you think it was a catch?

[D]

I thought it was a catch. I just don't think that based off of what you call and what we saw in the replays that you could confidently overturn it. So I'm not mad at them for.

[C]

That's fair.

[D]

I know Florida fans are going to be mad at it and think that they were screwed and all that kind of crap could. I don't care. Get over it. Like, it's It's a bang, bang play. It sucks. There's no guarantee you win that game anyway. It's not like it was a touchdown. So just. I don't know. I. We're mentioning like the culture of Georgia and being able to win these games, but is it not also part of the culture that they get off to these really slow starts? Like, should they not? Is this a game that if you're Georgia and you're the team that's like a national title contender and the one we're going to look at, are you supposed to be in these close games every single week? Because, like, I felt like for the most part in this game and the Big 12 thing was a joke. So before you come at me, start yelling at me, it was a joke. Calm down. But like, for the first three and a half quarters of this game, I thought Gunner Stockton, coming off of an incredible performance against Ole Miss in which he looked fantastic, looked very ordinary for three and a half quarters. I know the interception hit him in the hands. He should have caught it. But throw was also behind him. And a lot of throws Gunner was making in this game were behind guys. There was the one, the one touchdown he threw. If the safety ever turns his head to look at the ball, it's an easy pick. So I thought he got away with a lot. And then there was that one drive in the fourth quarter where he just kind of flipped the switch and became Joe Montana. And it was like, okay. And he does that a lot. Like, he has these great drives at key moments. He's very clutch. It's just, it's like Georgia as a whole. Why are you waiting until those moments to actually turn it on? Why aren't you doing that in the first quarter? Why aren't you putting these teams away? So I think that's going to be their fatal flaw.

[C]

I. I think I like, totally agree. So two things. One, I think the way you phrased it made me want to. Like you said, is it part of their culture? I would say no, I don't think, like. But I do think it's part of their 2025 DNA that they seem to start slow. But I do wonder, like, is it that they don't trust him all that much so they try to go out there and not have him lose it early? And then in the second half it's like, all right, we got to do.

[A]

It, we got to do it.

[C]

And so far they've been getting away with it. And getting away with it might be harsh in some, in some Cases he just played his ass off. But in other cases it's like, okay, they kind of get away with it. They just come up with tremendous third down stops on defense like that that this year is also part of like who they are. And they just get stops, like the short yard starts, like stops against UF down the stretch. That was huge. Like Florida has a lead and has a chance to really go in and put this thing away. And then Georgia flipped it on. Like, if Florida gets that first down, I'm pretty convinced Florida wins a game.

[A]

Yeah, the fourth down stop where they.

[C]

And the third down stop to get it to fourth down.

[A]

Yeah, good point. What do you, where do you give the flowers for that coaching?

[C]

I think they're linebackers. Really good, man. Yeah, those guys, those guys just, they fly around like they, I think if you're an offensive lineman, you're coming out there to get those guys. I think they're on, they're on you faster than you think. Yeah, right. Like just, I think that's hard to simulate in practice. Those guys move like your dbs move.

[A]

Is this, was this the last really good effort we get from Florida? I mean, I'm not trying to be a downer here, but what are we going to get? Because they still have games that matter that are still left on the schedule. What do you think we get from the Gators because they were down a lot of important receivers. Dallas Wilson obviously was the one that stood out. But with Ole Miss Tennessee left on the schedule, is this a dangerous team or are they playing out the string?

[D]

I mean, I don't know as a no.

[C]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're going to play hard to swamp the end of the year.

[A]

Same for Tennessee.

[C]

I mean, it's Tennessee. Like you don't think they're gonna play? I don't think they're gonna have a lay down against Tennessee. I, I, I could see him losing next week though.

[D]

I don't think the team is going to lay down. But I do wonder, like, there are situations where with the way the red shirt rule works and the way the transfer portal works, like Dallas Wilson didn't play today. Dallas Wilson has played three games this season. Does Dallas Wilson come back or whatever is bothering him that kept him out is that's going to be something that keeps him out for the rest of the year? Seeing as how Florida's 3 and 5, your coach has been fired and maybe you're more. It's time for you to start thinking about next year. I don't know And I don't know if other players are going to feel the same way. I do think that there's reason to be optimistic if you're a Gators fan, in that we saw last year and we were seeing it this year. Like this team had every reason in the world to quit and they never did last year and they weren't quitting this year. So maybe some individuals will make personal decisions, but I don't think as a team you need to worry about them chugging out completely. But who knows?

[C]

I do think the potential swings in effort week to week, like, to me, the variance probably increases there if you're in the hunt for something. I think we generally assume a good effort every week. I don't know after this if. If you're going to get a great effort every week. Like, they're probably favored at Kentucky, but like, by how much, I don't know.

[A]

Kentucky might just be drunk off ending a coaching tenure.

[C]

So.

[D]

Yeah, I don't want to work tomorrow, though. Coach the rest of the season, I think.

[A]

I mean, Hughes fired, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Is he fired tomorrow?

[D]

I imagine so. I mean, losing to Kentucky, some of.

[C]

Us thought that could happen.

[A]

Was it the worst loss of the day for a power conference team?

[C]

It has to be worse. Somebody has to be worse. Like Auburn's like a 6 and 16.

[A]

Yeah, but it was losing at home to Kentucky.

[D]

Arkansas lost at home to Mississippi State. But Mississippi State has a better overall record than Arkansas does, so I don't know if that would count. Just goes to show anybody can lose any week in the sec.

[A]

The meat grinder.

[C]

Including the balls, buddy.

[A]

Not a great show. I mean, granted, Joey Aguilar. Joey Aguilar did not cover himself in glory. Is that fair here?

[C]

I thought he did some really good things, but he also did some extremely across the entire college ball sample set of Joey Aguilar we've ever seen. Like, this is what. I didn't think it was gonna be this high scoring. You know, I thought Tennessee had a real shot to go in their wings. I didn't think that, like, that Tennessee had seen a really good D line yet. Like Georgia's D line this year, pass rush wise is not. It's just not impressive, you know. And Bama's has been very up and down. Oklahoma's D line, they bring it and like they saved their ass in that game so many times. Especially like in their own inner. Tennessee could have put this thing away in the first 20 minutes and didn't.

[A]

Our Mason Thomas leaves the game. They still end up Hanging in there. I mean, this is a, this, this to me is a very impressive performance from the Sooners here. What'd you make of John Mateer?

[D]

John Matier played worse than Joey Aguilar. Yeah, as a passer. But I, I think the bigger takeaway from this game for me, Anyway, Oklahoma Average 6 1/2 yards per carry. If you take out the sack yardage, that is far and away.

[A]

Oh, best.

[D]

The best rushing performance this season, 35, including sacks, 35 carries, 192 yards, five and a half a carry, two touchdowns. Xavier Robinson had 115 yards on 16 carries. That is just something we have not seen from Oklahoma all year. So for them to get that on the road in this game. And you know how badly Josh Hype wanted to win this game. Yeah. So their defensive line completely took away Tennessee's rushing attack and they brought their own for like, the first time all damn year. And like, if they get that the rest of the season, then that takes, that keeps Matier from dropping back to throw 40 times per game, which I don't want him doing because I don't think he's meant to do that. So it makes the passing attack better, it makes the overall offense better, and it gives you a better shot to win these games. So to me, that's the big story going forward for Oklahoma.

[A]

The fact that Oklahoma was able to lean on its ground game to help put this game away when Tennessee was unable to do the same, sort of come up with the same kind of plays was surprising to me. You know, I thought Oklahoma's losing defensive linemen, Oklahoma's playing on the road, Oklahoma's going up against this Tennessee offense is trying to run a whole bunch of snaps and get a whole bunch of plays in. And guess what? I thought Oklahoma looked stronger. Now, granted, I, I, we went live here before the game was over. There were a couple of late swings. So if something dramatic that changes your opinion happened in the final, what, 90 seconds of this game, then I'll, I'll take it back on upon further review. But to me, I thought Oklahoma had more in the tank, and that was a shock. It's a big shock for me that Oklahoma had more in the tank at the lines of scrimmage in the late stages of this game.

[C]

Especially, like how they kept running the ball.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Oklahoma's D line, I thought would consistently.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Like, it's just, I mean, really, really impressive stuff from, from Brent Venable's crew, which obviously gets to keep all of Their hopes alive in terms of what their postseason can be moving forward. Where do we want to go?

[D]

To the 11th inning.

[C]

Dude, seriously, Is that a pop up? Nebraska.

[D]

That game.

[A]

All right, that game. So here's the thing.

[C]

Sucks for Nebraska, man.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Because they were going to win that.

[A]

Game and I don't have a good. I don't have a good. Like, yay for usc. And I don't have a good. It's okay. Everything will be all right for Nebraska. No, that sucks for Nebraska because when Dylan Raiola left that game, that was it. And I think USC knew it.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's not like he was crushing. He was 10, 15 for 91, like.

[D]

That drop, but at least he had the threat.

[C]

Yeah, he wasn't five of seven for seven.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Seven yards.

[C]

Which yard was your favorite? It's hard to go five of seven for seven.

[A]

Seven. Well, listen, we've said this about that Nebraska offense because while it's like Dana Holgerson. Dana Holgerson. Dana Holgerson average, you know, was it. What's our depth of target and that the adot.

[D]

Yeah, but they weren't even running routes downfield. Like they were like everything was just one man on a screen and every other receiver was getting ready to block. Like they weren't trying to do a damn thing in the passing attack when Latif came in. But no. Yeah. If you didn't see the game, Nebraska was up 14 to 6. Dylan Raola gets his right ankle rolled up on badly leaves the game, never comes back. USC goes on to win 21 17. And they won on the road. We've talked about. I talked about USC struggles on the road. USC won a road game with jaden Mayava going 9 of 23 for 135 yards. Like Nebraska's defense played well. Like you got everything you could have wanted in this game to set it up for you to win it. And then the Rayola injury happens and completely screws you. And if you're usc, you're not going to apologize for any of it. You're happy you're getting out of there and going home with a win. But it doesn't exactly make me feel confident about the Detroit's going forward because this is a Nebraska defense. I don't think it's been anything truly special all year.

[A]

They were also kind of running that PI offense, you know, like, yeah, you. I thought Nebraska did a pretty good job, but even some of the success that USC had, it felt like it was.

[D]

Yeah, they had to get Gimmicky. They were doing like they did the same, they brought out the same flea flicker that they did against Illinois that they scored like the 75 yard touchdown to Makai Lemon, but it got called back because of the ineligible offensive lineman downfield. They ran that same play and this time their lineman stayed eligible and they hit it with a pass interference.

[C]

The, the only thing I would say here is if you're a USC fan, you're probably screaming, hey guys, we were bullying them in the run game from the first quarter. If you don't think that was only going to keep getting better, then I don't know. I don't know what to tell you now. Maybe the QB injury made USC stay more committed to the run game because like Maybe he was 9 of 23. I, I know there was some wind tonight, but like that's pretty rough.

[A]

Not, not with the advantage that USC should have on the perimeter.

[C]

Secondary is not bad.

[D]

No. And they did a very good job tonight, which is I again, I feel terrible for Nebraska because they should have won that game, man.

[C]

Yeah, well, they got, I mean, Matt Rules got a lot, a lot of time to fix it.

[D]

It's true.

[C]

With the extension.

[A]

Matt Rule, Rhett Lashley, which I do.

[C]

Get by the way. Like, I, I know if, if you're the ad, you fundraise off making the coach and like you have to tell like this is how it works. You tell your boosters, hey, we got the guy, right? We really need you to give them money. Like so it's very hard to turn around and say, actually remember the guy I was telling you he was amazing, right? Like the guy you have to donate for financially the prudent thing to do is just like, if he was going to go, let him go. Because your money is what makes this program. And like most competent coaches could achieve similar results to what Rule has done path wise so far. That doesn't really work.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Because your boosters are going to turn around and say, didn't you just tell me this guy is like the second coming? That that's just how this works. So I get it.

[A]

I mean, I think that because you're.

[C]

Spending other people's money.

[A]

Well, and, and I could also make an argument that Matt Rule, based on his results in the previous decade, he has been transformative. How's that for hyperbole? That might not be hyperbole, that Matt Rule already at Nebraska has been transformative. So I, I get it. And somebody made the.

[D]

Is that it Will Smith?

[A]

No, it's the top solo shot 5, 4 live here on the COVID 3 podcast. World Series, World Series, Dodgers J's, Dodgers, Blue Jays. World Series 2025. Watch a long stream.

[C]

Could I name 10 baseball players?

[D]

Yes, Bud can name 10 baseball players.

[C]

It's not the NBA, guys.

[A]

Listen, you, you don't have a banger of a, of a Christmas T ball team name and not understand your, your baseball teams. Come on.

[D]

Apparently we're massive.

[C]

Apparently we're massive underdogs in this tournament, by the way.

[D]

Nah, that's.

[C]

Talk to the head coach.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

Yeah. We got South Orlando playing in this. Got this team coming up from, from Miami. So our boys are gonna have to really.

[D]

They don't have our culture, they don't have our buy in.

[C]

Liam did hit the fence in the air though. Off the tee.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

I was like, let's go. It's like, bro, we can get, we can get the launching. Speaking of, kids do hit home runs in this, so I don't know if we're gonna play into the weekend. Yeah, like, I think we're one of the local teams and I'm not really, I'm not really sure. We need some, we need some nil, right?

[D]

Like they got like some like T ball team with a launch monitor.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. If we got, if you know anybody who's like, we got One of those Im 12 situations here, we could use a 12 on this team.

[D]

This is my 6 year old son. I got him some force plates for Christmas.

[C]

We, we play. If it's not over the fire pit, it's an out and we just hit one bucket. I don't, I don't want him to get tired of hitting, you know, I can not like it. So, like, we end on a good note and we go just, we go be a kid, you know? But some guys play travel T ball, which we don't.

[D]

Whoa. Huh? Whoa.

[C]

No judgment. Well, a little, a little bit of.

[D]

Judgment, but I bet, I bet the dads of those travel T ball players are real cool hangs, man.

[C]

Keep them up drugs, keep them off the streets.

[A]

Is Indiana gonna just put up 40 on everybody?

[D]

No, they're gonna put up 50.

[A]

Good gravy.

[D]

What was. I think the stat was like, Maryland had five turnovers all year coming into this game. And Maryland had five turnovers in this game.

[C]

This is kind of what we talked about on hq. Like, Maryland had not seen a real D line yet. And Indiana is really good at picking up what your protection scheme is and then exploiting it, like quickly. And if you have A freshman quarterback and you have a team that drops the ball all the time at receiver, which Maryland does. You're going to be at some bats. And I didn't know they're going to have five turnovers, but, like, that was a little bit. The pressure that Indiana got was kind of foreseeable.

[D]

Indiana's linebackers have better hands than Maryland receivers. Today's results indicate.

[A]

Yes, well, and today's results included what we were down to, linebacker four, linebacker five out there for Indiana.

[D]

They might be converted tight ends. You don't know.

[A]

You don't. You definitely didn't know them before. So, yeah, just phenomenal. Phenomenal, dominant performance from Indiana. Do you. Do you foresee this team losing before Indianapolis?

[D]

I'm not going to predict it, but yeah, sure, they could lose it. I mean, it's college football. They're playing at Penn State next week. Maybe. Maybe Penn State comes out and just, you know, has the game of its life. Then it's Wisconsin, Purdue. I mean, you know, those are very good football team.

[A]

Tom, Tom, Tom, I need you. I need you to come back to earth. I need.

[D]

I need. Major Tom. No, listen, you know what? No, no. I've been covering this sport. I've been covering this sport for far too long. The minute you say these teams can't lose a game, they are damn sure gonna lose a game. All right?

[A]

I don't know, man.

[D]

Georgia Tech lost NC State, all right? Georgia Tech's a juggernaut.

[A]

No, they are not. Georgia Tech sure ain't. Indiana.

[C]

Georgia Tech was not real high up on that list of teams that have won a lot of games despite having a negative net success rate. Georgia Tech was.

[D]

Indiana was not.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, I mean, just. So here, here's that.

[D]

Indiana, Penn State games on Fox. Yeah. No, there's no shot they lose.

[C]

I don't. I don't know. Like, do you guys think Georgia would be favorite over Indiana?

[A]

I don't know. I don't.

[D]

I don't think.

[A]

Like. Yeah, right.

[C]

Like in the playoff.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think they would be by power ratings, but I think the market could dictate that they would be.

[C]

Because I think George probably not getting a buy. So if they did meet in the playoff and Indiana gets a buy, Georgia will have won a game. So if we're gaming this out into when they could actually meet. But I. Most of the major systems out there don't have Georgia Fiber. Indiana guys.

[A]

Right. Indiana is. Indiana is up there. Closer to Ohio State than they are. Yeah. Power ratings wise. And it Everyone. Everyone's got my numbers. We haven't said my numbers. Yeah, we haven't had that recently. But yeah, I. I agree with you, bud. From what I've been able to gather, Indiana is much closer to the top than they are to the Bulldogs.

[C]

Quarterback. Edge, Indiana.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

D line. Edge, Indiana receiver.

[D]

Draft wise performance.

[C]

Probably Indiana.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Indiana is very good receivers.

[A]

It's so funny, Tom. You and I were on for the halftime update and I was like, man, Indiana just can't really get that ground game going. They finished with what, 267.

[C]

They did, by the way. Just because we're gonna get aggregated for that take, I don't think any of us think that any Indiana would be a massive favorite over Georgia, nor would Georgia be a mass favor over Indiana. Like, that's. That would be a very close spread. Yeah.

[D]

According to teams. Yeah.

[C]

Like the chat point. Yeah, I brought it up because the chat was like, Georgia be favored over by a ton.

[D]

Like.

[C]

They would not.

[D]

No, they would not. No.

[A]

Ohio State would be favored over anybody. Yeah.

[D]

By three points.

[C]

I did not watch a lot of that game today. I did see a lot of their fans complaining on Twitter and I'm not really sure about what.

[D]

Oh. Because they're Ohio State fans and they're just that way.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

All right.

[C]

I was like, are they real? Like, like, I'm gonna go back and watch this a little closer. But they. They outgained it by about 300 yards, guys.

[A]

Well, bud, what you're gonna love is. Oh, what you're gonna love is something that you've been on aggressively, which is, of course, the Julian saying is the one that we should have been looking at all along. I mean, he was lights out in this game.

[C]

He'd be a. Three incompletions, though, Chip.

[A]

And four touchdown passes.

[D]

This is the fifth game where he's finished with a completion percentage of 80 or higher.

[A]

Guys, guys, we're not.

[C]

He doesn't even look old enough to play for my T ball team.

[D]

He's a game manager. He's just. He's. He's just an ordinary ass quarterback surrounded by talent. He's not actually good.

[A]

No, he's very, very.

[D]

No, no, he's not. He's terrible. He's the worst. He's a jag.

[C]

He's just like so accurate with it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so here's the thing is, so I am thinking now about when there were you know, just sort of like fun, banter, level conversations of, you know, Julian is really impressing everybody. In Columbus, you know, Will Howard might not be the surefire starter. Then the season starts. Will Howard is obviously the one they trust. But the talent, the reasons why, like the reasons why that was even a conversation piece is obviously on display because he is lights out and it is extremely fun to watch.

[D]

He puts the ball in perfect places every time.

[C]

To absolute aliens too.

[D]

Right. Either. Either his guy is going to catch it or nobody catches it. Like it's never in a position where it's going to be in danger. He's not throwing behind his guys. He's giving. He's putting in places where they can continue running after the catch. He's getting it out on time. He's just very freaking good. And he's. I wrote about him after the game. The stat was in there. It's the fifth time this year he's throwing for 300 plus and three touchdowns in a single game. The last Ohio State quarterback to do that was CJ Stroud in 2021. Also his red shirt freshman season. Just. I mean, it worked out pretty well for CJ Stroud. It's probably going to work out pretty well for Julian saying. I mean the difference is he's not 64 like Stroud is. So that might impact his draft stock a little bit. But I think he's going to put up a whole lot of really good numbers on this team and I think he's going to win a whole hell of a lot of football games.

[C]

Not going to impact his playoffs. Suck.

[D]

No.

[A]

Yeah. I was going to say if, if Julian, he's got to be heism right.

[C]

Now or isn't favored.

[D]

He was Heisman favored after the Ohio State game. I have not checked since the Indiana game. Game.

[A]

I am not tired of Ohio State being good.

[D]

No, I'm. Listen, I'm. I'm on the record. I'll say it again. If they repeat and win the 12 team playoff back to back, it is the most impressive accomplishment in the history of college football. And then you toss on the fact that they did it after replacing damn near the entire team and both of their coordinators and it becomes even more impressive.

[C]

NB in the chat said DK is now gonna buy. Buy him a.

[D]

He's gonna hit us with the. You guys heard about this Julian Zan fella?

[A]

All right, one more buy here. Gonna go with a little Julian saying.

[D]

Plays for a little team called the Buckeyes. Out of Ohio.

[A]

Yeah, Ohio State. And this is the thing. So Penn State ran the ball kind of effectively a little bit, you know.

[D]

No, no, no, no. Penn State averaged 1.8 yards per carry. And the Dodgers are World Series champions. Congratulations, you assholes. But, like, no, Penn State Average 1.8 yards per carry, I'm pissed off, because you know what? I don't know why Ohio State fans are. But I'll tell you why I'm pissed. Because CJ Donaldson fumbled inside his own 15 yard line, gave Penn State the ball, got him a second touchdown, Cost me my team, total bet. And then Penn State did not score again. Yeah, but no, Penn State was not impressive offensive in this game.

[A]

I did not say impressive offense. I'm trying to look because I thought that it was very obvious to me that Katron Allen was out there. Like, he was. He was running hard. And that was where I was like, this is. This is what? If you are a Penn State fan and you get into the mushy, gushy stuff about playing for the program and all that Katron Allen could have been in the NFL last year, and he came back, and all of the reasons that he came back are gone. And he. He showed up and he saw Ohio State and he was like, no, I'm still running hard. So when I saw 10 out there running hard, I was like, all right, good for you. But like you mentioned, 210 shut out. After halftime, Ohio State put the clamps on him. Penn State had nothing. So it'd be like that.

[D]

Like, yeah, Katron had, like, 26 yards on the one carry and then 50 on his other 20.

[A]

Hard yards. Told you.

[D]

Hard yards for sure.

[C]

These are very hard. They're gonna be like, all right, well, how did they move the ball in the first? Like. Like, almost nobody's moved the ball in Ohio State this year.

[D]

No, Illinois did a little.

[A]

Illinois did. All right, let's do Clemson. Cooked.

[C]

Yeah, Been cooked. Jinx.

[D]

Dude. The tweet by Duke after this game.

[C]

I didn't see this.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Is it still up or do.

[C]

They have to pull it?

[D]

Yeah. Oh, no, it's still up. Duke football, they said Death Valley, but they put Death in quotes. And then they put a Spirit Halloween sign outside the stadium.

[A]

They called Death Valley Spirit Halloween. I mean, oh, my God. So this is Duke's first win.

[C]

He saw it.

[A]

This is Duke's first win at Clemson since 1980. This is six straight home losses to power four teams. Dabo Sweetie was, like, 72 and 10 in his first 82 games as the head coach of the Clemson Tigers when playing in Death Valley. He got up there when things started to go a little bit south, and he said, Maybe it's not a good season. Maybe we go 6 and 6. Dabo, 6 and 6 would be a great finish. That would mean you win three of your final four games. This, this could be the first bowl less team under Dabo Sweeney. This could be only the seventh losing season since the 1975. I understand that Clemson had a lot of time where they were not the Clemson Running hot 2015-2020 Playing for National titles. But buddy, the floor was high. Clemson was a like annual high floor team for a lot of the late 20th century. And this might be an outlier across the last 50 years, so. Yikes. Also Duke, congratulations. You know, go for two after the game. Tying score set up by a pass interference penalty, which throw it on the laundry list of things that the Clemson secondary did horribly. Communication was bad. There were frequent breakdowns. Dabo's chewing them out. I saw a lot of calls for. I mean here's the problem is we're just gonna haphazardly fire assistance, right? That's the way that this ends.

[C]

I mean he's already done that a little bit.

[A]

Right? I know. That's. That's why I say haphazardly.

[C]

Robbie Callan, Dallas 20 Buy.

[A]

If you're LSU and you hire Dabo Sweeney, are you disappointed?

[C]

I thought Woodward's not making the hire anymore.

[A]

Hey, I see. That makes Dabo more likely.

[C]

Oh, oh, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Okay. Yeah, okay. Good point. Touche, sir.

[A]

Foreign. We'll see. Man. Dabo, Clemson's playing Florida State, right? Clemson still got play South Carolina.

[C]

Right?

[D]

Let's move on.

[A]

Let's. Let's move on. All right. Coming up on the other side, we continue to roll through some of the biggest and most notable results from week 10 and predicting the new AP top 25 and tomorrow's top 25 today and more.

[D]

Nukest.

[B]

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[A]

If you're headed out of town this weekend for a big football game, of course you're going to be thinking about tailgating. Cheering from the stands, the whole experience. But while you're off soaking in all that excitement, you. You might also be thinking, wait. Your home could be doing something for you while you're away. That's right. You can host your home on Airbnb while you're gone. And it's such a practical way to earn a little extra money. I started thinking about it myself. A few nights of hosting could help cover part of a trip or even fund tickets for a future game. It's easy. It doesn't take over your life.

[D]

You.

[A]

You just make space available and let others enjoy it while you're out having fun. And it doesn't just have to be your whole home. Maybe you've got a little extra space. Maybe you've got that room above the garage. Well, you could do something similar. You're out of town for a little bit. You come home to a little extra cash and no hassle at all. So if you've got an upcoming trip, whether it's a football weekend, a quick getaway, or a family visit, hosting really does feel like a smart move. Seriously, your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how [e-mail] host back here on the COVID 3 podcast. Okay, we got Tennessee, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Georgia Tech, NC State. That was all the stuff that was late slate. As we got right into breaking everything down here on the Instant Reaction show. Again, the Los Angeles Dodgers Winners 4 to 3 over the Toronto Blue Jays, World Series champs, back to back. That happened just about five, five, six minutes ago.

[D]

So that remains absolutely useless.

[A]

What'd you say?

[D]

Canada remains absolutely useless.

[A]

Starting an international incident in the future home that is disrespectful to the future home of Joey Aguilar in his professional football career.

[D]

What did Joey Aguilar do to you?

[A]

I don't know. I tried to think of cfl. I was just. Who's sorry. It was the game that just happened. Who's the most CFL quarterback we watch?

[D]

Geo Lopez. I would get. But damn, man.

[A]

Geo Lopez just got an ACC victory.

[D]

I did.

[A]

Texas Tech. Fun game.

[D]

Wasn't that fun in the first half?

[A]

Not for Texas Tech. Oh, and just ugly. You're right. The trading you actually. Fair, fair, fair. So they were trading turnovers. They were trading turnover on downs, fourth down stops. Neither team could really get anything going. Yeah, not great in the first half, but got a little silly late. And then of course, Texas Tech pulls away for the win. I. I come away. I come away. Number one. Thomas, you and I were discussing at halftime of the game you just number 31's everywhere. I mean, there are very few individuals who can impact a game on the defensive side of the ball this season that just stand out more than David Bailey. I mean, the small domino, big domino. Troy Taylor is mean to some people in the Stanford football office. Texas Tech WINS the Big 12. There's your small domino and big domino. Because.

[C]

David 12 TFLs.

[D]

Yeah. Their defensive line completely overwhelmed Kansas.

[C]

Yeah. And this is what we talked about on big game breakdown. Like, who is K State seen who has, like, draft multiple. Like, possible draftable guys on the D line. Definite draftable guys. Couple of now for sure. Like, nobody really.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Also, shout out to the tailgate. Yes. Jacob Rodriguez obviously pops, too. He had another punch out. He continues to just be an absolute turnover machine. Just Texas. Texas in a good way. Yeah. The turnover machine.

[D]

Linebacker, turnover machine.

[A]

Quarterback.

[D]

Turnover machine is bad.

[C]

Rodriguez, the Joe Aguilar of defense. People are asking.

[D]

Jag up Rodriguez.

[A]

I. I think that it is an incredible luxury that Texas Tech can lean on that group, because that's the thing is it's 43 to 20 is our final score. I walk away from this thinking that a lot of those 43 were set up by the defense.

[D]

Yeah. They had 20 points off of turnovers. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. They host BYU next week. BYU is off. It felt after the Arizona State loss like everything was going to be doomed for Texas Tech. And in classic college football fashion, I'm swinging the pendulum the other way. I. I think Texas Tech, if they can take care of business, obviously next week is huge, but they. They could still achieve a lot of what they wanted to achieve this season.

[D]

Agreed. Because if they win next week, they finish with UCF and West Virginia.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. It's the last. The last big hurdle to be able to get to Dallas. And then you get a game in Dallas as Texas Tech with that defense. I just. I like your chances against almost anybody in that conference. All right, bud, where do you want to go?

[C]

I want to go to Houston. West Virginia. Take care of businessman. That was pretty cool.

[A]

Scotty Fox.

[C]

Yeah. Threw it all over.

[D]

That was.

[C]

That offense has been looking different in a good way.

[A]

It was. It was a very disappointing, very disappointing day for the Houston Cougars football program. As I mentioned, we're celebrating the 2015 Peach Bowl. You know, we're trying to. We're trying to get. Get all the vibes back now that we're back in the top 25. And then you just. You let Rich Rod come in and get you a West Virginia team that had just lost and lost and lost and lost and to your point, they come out and the offense, you know, the, the yardage was not overwhelming in terms of the passing attack.

[C]

Right about 157.

[A]

I was gonna say like higher hundreds at max. But the, the threat of the downfield pass definitely is different with Fox in there.

[D]

So 246 on them, dude.

[C]

And that's with three nail downs. I mean it was like 50 for 252.

[A]

West Virginia's defense is not awesome, but it scored more.

[D]

That helps you win.

[A]

I heard, I did hear that the.

[C]

Team that scores more wins, has a.

[D]

Good shot of winning.

[A]

Yeah, good shot. Usually.

[C]

You want to stay in the Big 12.

[A]

Jeff Sims.

[D]

Jeff Sims, Mr. 88 touchdown run right up the middle. That's what, that's experience right there. That's a 35 year old man who still was somehow able to run 88 yards at one time.

[C]

Good for Jeff. Sense, man.

[D]

I know.

[A]

Why am I, why am I reserved to like, you know what? Good for Jeff. I mean I, I told you all about the. We had a great. I'm sorry I don't have your name. Pulled up right here. But they went and found the Original Barton Simmons. September 2020. Watch out for this Jeff Sims guy at Georgia Tech clip. And it was an instant reaction show. And we didn't used to be live but we were on video and it would just tape super late at night. Like I think we would even wait for sometimes the late night games to end. Barton Simmons threw through all the haze of all the oat milk and all the vodka. You know, he's like Jeff Sims, that guy. He is going to be scoring touchdowns five years from now.

[D]

He said one day when you least expect it, Jeff Sims is going to run for 228 yards and two touchdowns in an upset win over Iowa State. And Matt Campbell will still be there. He won't have left for another job yet. We looked at him like he was insane.

[A]

I liked our friend Robbie Calland who said did they not have the scouting report on Jeff Sims? Like I thought I was State's defensive problems was the past defense and availability.

[C]

So that look that looked a little bit like Kenny Dillingham broke out that 20, 21 Jordan Travis offense before, before Travis figured out how to pass the ball.

[A]

Huh.

[C]

Chip remembers that game in North Carolina.

[A]

Yeah, that's what you need. But shout out to hey Tom. Kenny Dillingham just gets it.

[D]

You know he does. He gets it.

[A]

He just gets it. I liked. I Think heading into the game, there was a question about, you know, with Sam Levitt being out, are you just going to turn to development? It's like, no, we're still competing out here. Today was a good. Today was a result that backed up the talk that he had going into the week.

[D]

I mean, technically, they're still alive in the Big 12 title race.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

Yeah, until they're eliminated.

[A]

When they're. When their media was like, hey, so are we gonna, like, just think about, you know, turning things over to the young guys and just, you know, punt and focus on development. It's like, buddy, this college football, there ain't no tank in here. You know, we're not gonna. Not gonna work on our young core and a better draft pick. You're gonna go out there and try to play. So you break out.

[D]

Mike Lombardi's head just blew up.

[A]

So you break out the Jordan Travis playbook. Tell Jeff Sims to go get it. Great work by Arizona State, Virginia. Louisville took care of business in a way that Miami and Georgia Tech could not.

[D]

Hey, pit.

[A]

Panthers pit.

[C]

Pitt's a little dangerous now.

[A]

Pitt is very dangerous.

[C]

If Notre Dame plays against pit like they played against Boston College, they could lose.

[A]

I mean, Pitt still plays Miami. Pit. This doesn't. Pit still play Georgia Tech.

[D]

Yes, I believe they play Notre Dame, Georgia Tech and Miami. Yeah, they've got. Oh, buddy.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's a hell of a finish.

[A]

Yeah. Which again, I am not going to predict that this Panthers team is hoisting a trophy, but, buddy, they can win any of those games and potentially multiple. What'd you make of. What do you make of the Panthers?

[C]

I didn't watch second of this game.

[D]

What. What did you watch?

[C]

Pittsburgh pit. Stanford did not make the quad box.

[D]

That's, of course, Mason Heinzel, number one quarterback in the country. Yeah, I didn't really see any of this game either, so. Yeah, but I can tell you that Mason Heinzel threw for 300 yards through three touchdowns, had two interceptions, and that was better than Stanford.

[A]

Did Michigan State get boned?

[D]

I'm boned. No, but they beat. They had a chance to win that game and they just. I'm not going to blame the officials for that. You gotta. It's hard to. When you don't. When you're not winning. It's hard to know how to win. It's the hardest thing to learn, and they haven't learned it yet.

[A]

Overtime loss to Minnesota. Who those didn't cat. For those who did not catch it, it Was.

[D]

And they benched Aiden Chiles, by the way. He did not play in this game. Alessio, I. Forgive me, please. I can pronounce Alessio because that sounds familiar, but Milivojevic is a guess.

[C]

That sounds like a good guess.

[D]

Alessio Milalovovich is the name of somebody who should probably be playing basketball for Illinois this year, to be honest with you.

[C]

Or Lithuania.

[D]

Same thing. I'm telling Illinois, bud. Wait till you see the Atlanta basketball roster. It is. It's Real Madrid.

[C]

The chat says we only have 16 likes. That can't be right. Y' all like the stream?

[A]

Get the likes up.

[C]

Come on. Get the likes up. All right.

[A]

Boise lost Maddox Madsen. That felt significant, obviously, because it pairs with a home loss to Fresno. Mountain West. I think we can get them. UNLV lost at home to New Mexico. Congratulations to Jason A. You know you are. You are bowl eligible with the Lobos Yellow Aztecs. Are you gonna put it on? Do it. Do it. Are you gonna put on the helmet?

[D]

I am not gonna put it on because the helmet doesn't fit. But there is a new leader in the Mountain west and you know, I was looking at this earlier. You see that? See the Aztec right here?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. It's like nice and round. You know what else is round? A wheel. You know, it has wheels.

[A]

A wagon.

[D]

A wagon?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Not only is San Diego State 7 and 1, not only is San Diego State in first place in the Mountain west, but San Diego State is 7:1 against the spread, folks. And they're covering by an average of 15 points per game. Wagon. We have our very first wagon of the 2025 season. And it is your San Diego State Aztecs. And it's not just because they sent me a helmet, but it sure as hell didn't hurt.

[A]

Yeah. Great call by Garrett in the tailgate. That is the first wagon declaration of the season. We are very excited to hear it. You know, anytime that the great wagon connoisseur can be able to make that declaration, it is a. It is a celebratory day. Joseph in the tailgate also pointing out that this. These Mountain west results good for the American Athletic Conference, which has absolutely bananas standings right now. So Navy takes a loss to North Texas. So now they've got one loss we did get. You know, the Memphis win. No big hangover as they went to go play Rice.

[D]

Was.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Was watching Tulane lose on Thursday the absolute best thing in the world that happened in Memphis.

[A]

Oh. Just to get their attention before playing on Friday.

[D]

I think you Love the timing of that. If you're Memphis, because you were just like, oh, you're riding Silver Fields. You're like, oh, hey boys. You see what happened to. See what happened to them last night because they didn't take it seriously. Better take this team seriously.

[C]

Does Colorado miss Sean Lewis?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Which on. Never mind.

[A]

That was his decision.

[D]

Yeah. I was just gonna ask if he would return after it comes open, but why would he in charge of a wagon?

[A]

Tom, where else do you want to go?

[D]

I mean, what else. What haven't we talked about yet? I've talked, let's see. We haven't talked about Michigan, who looked, oh, pretty pathetic, honestly.

[A]

Purdue.

[D]

And a 2116 win over Purdue. Like, Bryce Underwood looked really good in that Nebraska game about a month ago now at this point and he has not played well since. Like, and it's not something to get too concerned about because he's a true freshman. And this is what happens with freshman quarterbacks. There are ups and there are downs. It's not completely linear, but it's, it's a down right now. He did not play well. He had the one fumble into the end zone in this one. Like, if Michigan should not be toying around with Purdue, and I know that Purdue scored late in the fourth quarter to make it look closer than it was, but just this is the kind of game that Michigan should be putting the Boilermakers away. It should not be messing with this team. And it's like, we've talked about it, like, the Big Ten really does look more and more like a three team league. And like we saw this Michigan result. Yes, they won, but not impressive. USC won, but it was not impressive. And they probably lose if Dylan Rayola doesn't get hurt. Nebraska was kind of knocked out of the race this week. Illinois was knocked out of the race last week. It's just, I don't know, man. Like this, this is a Wolverines team. That to me it's, it's probably, it's not having a bad season. It's 7 and 2. But it is just like, it's a misleading 7 and 2.

[A]

It's an old school 7 and 2. Remember pre. Remember Pre. Conor Stallions. What Michigan was like. Michigan put together a lot of seven. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not tying it to Connors, but there was a long run of Jim Harbaugh Michigan seasons with a very high floor and a couple losses.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I mean, a lot of nine wins. A lot of going to play in a, you know, going to play in The Orange bowl in the, in a game that's not part of the College Football Playoff, like this kind of feels like one of those seasons.

[C]

Yeah, I would agree with that. Somebody in the chat said they're the Texas of the Big Ten.

[D]

Yeah, I could see that. There are similarities for sure. Biggest difference is the one started at number one. So they get more credit for it. But yeah, no, I, I, I could see that. That's not a bad call.

[A]

So did y'. All.

[D]

They're a good team. They're just not like they're top 15, top 20ish team. They're just not great.

[A]

Yeah, they, it is easy because they are Michigan and because of their high win count to put them at the top of that big bloated group of 15 to 20 teams that are otherwise anybody could get anybody on any given day.

[C]

The two teams Michigan's lost. Who did win tonight though?

[D]

It's true.

[A]

Do you think so are you saying College Football Playoff, they're in the running.

[D]

If they don't Possible.

[C]

Yeah, it's certainly possible.

[D]

But there's no and I understand what happened last year. I understand the rivalry throughout the record book aspect of it. But there is nothing that I have seen from Michigan this year that makes me think they're beating Ohio State. Just, I'll eat my words if it happens. I just, it's, it's not going to happen.

[A]

I might, might go all line.

[C]

Get some frustrations out.

[D]

Ohio State hasn't really bothered trying to put their foot on the gas at all this year. That might be the game they finally do it.

[A]

Friday. How did you all celebrate football history?

[D]

I, I was watching the World Series. Yeah.

[A]

This game was over before the World Series was. Before that double play.

[C]

I had to make sure the Twizzlers did not like I had to make sure I didn't get too many Twizzlers in the bucket. You know, good candy.

[D]

Yeah. The children.

[A]

Congratulations to the North Carolina Tar Heels. They got their first ACC win under Bill Belichick. It's the world beaters that are Syracuse orange down to QB3 and then QB4 because QB3 wasn't getting it done. But I think that there's, there's, there's a lot to overreact to if you wanted to. Like if you really needed there to be some positivity. Boy, you got stuff to point to. For example, look at the remaining schedule. Being a bold team is not out of the realm of possibility.

[C]

This is why I bet they're over on the year. I just didn't think you guys were gonna be this level. Like the schedule is very. Schedule's nice, right?

[A]

But you're gonna end up two wins off because of everything that's happened to this point.

[D]

You know what else isn't out of the realm of possibility?

[A]

Losing all those games 3 and 9.

[D]

I don't want to yuck your yum over here, Chip, but I mean, come on, they beat Syracuse. We're gonna, we're gonna start talking about other bowl team now. Syracuse was starting a lacrosse player at quarterback.

[A]

That's, that's, that's, that's Bills like that. That's, that's how you get to Bill's Achilles heel lacrosse player.

[D]

I mean, this used to be lacrosse players. Now it's 25 year old brunettes.

[A]

No, listen, I'm telling you this, this was, he had to go. He talks about Jim Brown all the time. He talks about lacrosse all the time. He had to go into those streets. Chandler Jones was a Syracuse orange, okay? He knew. He's been to pro days there in the dome. He understands how to fill that bubble up. He was ready. This is where it had to happen.

[D]

You know what, Chip? You, you're sitting here saying North Carolina could go bowling. I also think Illinois's win over Rutgers today proves that they should still be in consideration for an at large bid in the college.

[A]

93 is there. 93 is right there.

[D]

445 yards of offense could have put up 50, but you went soft on him in the fourth quarter, which honestly I was disgusted by. I wanted to see you go for 50 against those guys. But yeah, Illinois back to back bowl games for the first time in what, I think it was 2011. I tweeted it.

[C]

So.

[D]

It's been 15 years since Elon have gone to bowl games. Consecutive seasons. I'm happy with it.

[A]

I, I said when things were bad that I was most curious about whether the North Carolina players in that locker room, 70 of whom literally just showed up for this season, that they were going to choose. Right? So, you know, you see the, the locker room celebrations, you see the, the way that they were all still dialed in, still battling some young guys, getting out there, getting some burn. So yeah, I'm, I'm not gonna, I am not going to be the. Oh, you, you're not, you're not allowed to have fun. No, I've got to still like bury this like. No, we, we bottomed out and so, yeah, celebrate the wins that you get coming home. Probably not a bowl team, but celebrate the wins that you've Got coming home.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

All right. Well, anything else before we hit tomorrow's top 25?

[D]

What a wonderful sport.

[C]

New Mexico, way to go.

[A]

Bowl eligible.

[C]

I mean, taking over that roster on that program, doing that.

[A]

Pretty impressive. Is that Wisconsin's next head coach?

[D]

Could be. I don't know. I don't know what Wisconsin is going to want to do, but I think he's certainly going to be one of the top names mentioned. And I mean he already is. I think he'll certainly get an interview. I don't know if he will be. It'll be interesting to see what happens there.

[C]

Like, I think Wisconsin could be in a great position here. Jason Eck, Sean Lewis, Wisconsin graduates.

[A]

Something.

[D]

Sean, if you send me a Wisconsin helmet, I'm not gonna wear it.

[C]

But let's let them finish up, finish out the Mountain west first.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Every single Saturday night, we always like to take stock what the new College Football Playoff or excuse me, what the new college football rankings are going to look like. And that is especially important as we have the College Football Playoff rankings that will begin getting released on Tuesday night. So as we look at the new top 25 after week 10, not a lot of shakeups at the top. You will remember number three, Texas A and M, they were off this week. Number four, Alabama, they were off this week. Georgia gets it done. Of course they hang on, they survive. They, we are projecting they stay at number five. You throw that in with Oregon being off, Oregon, Ole Miss getting it done against South Carolina, BYU being off. Not seeing a lot of changes at the top. However, where do you think the Texas Longhorns will land in a reshuffled top 25 after the Longhorns got by a definition their second top 10 win of the season.

[D]

Outside the top 10 still because they were what, 20th? Yep, 13, 12.

[A]

I've got them 11. But this is where Oklahoma beats Tennessee. Texas has the head to head win against Oklahoma, Rising Tide, all boats and AP voters should have no trouble to get them up to 11 and 12, which is where I have Texas and Oklahoma. They have to have the gumption to move them ahead of Virginia, Louisville and Miami. I, I think they will. I don't think that's a hard ask for AP voters.

[D]

No, probably not.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

They could make the not wrong, just early claims on their number one ranking.

[A]

At the preseason for Vanderbilt's tumble. I do believe they'll take a step back after taking their second loss of the season. Do you have any thoughts on where the Commodores should land for losing points.

[D]

On the road to a top 11 team.

[C]

Yeah, I mean.

[D]

Shouldn'T follow.

[C]

This will be an interesting test. Like do they get the SEC benefit of the doubt that these other SEC brand names get?

[A]

I think they land at Missouri. They have a head to head win against Missouri. They both got two losses. But to your point, bud, are they going to be ahead of those ACC teams or behind them? That'll be interesting.

[D]

Very.

[C]

I, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like I'm actually like real curious about this.

[A]

I've got them.

[D]

You have Iowa getting in after their bye week. Like you did USC last week, practice this week.

[A]

Hey, did USC get in?

[D]

They did because you put them in. And again half the voters just google top 25, go to CBS Sports, see what chip road is gonna be the poll and be like, all right, that'll just be my poll.

[A]

Do you know, do you know who holds that spot right now? Washington.

[D]

Great week of practice.

[A]

Great week of practice. And then I don't know what, what should we do right now? We'll see. What's our Utah Cincinnati score live.

[C]

So Dampier threw a really bad pick and Cincinnati did nothing with it.

[A]

Had to punt.

[D]

It's 24 to 14. Six minutes left in the third. We think both at midfield.

[C]

Sourceby has like the most Sourcebee line of all time, by the way. 9 of 24 for 201.

[D]

Hell yeah, Brandon.

[A]

Let's go, Brendan. Keep being you.

[D]

Let's slow down on the points though, boys. No more than what, let's see, 38. No more than 17 more, please.

[A]

I did not have a lot of confidence leaving Tennessee inside the top 25 as we are talking right here at 12:52am Eastern Time. I will admit some of that was just all the pieces that were moving, you know where games are still going on. We're trying to get the podcast going and you just, you don't have great options. To look at last week's balloting of the AP voters. Navy finished 26th. They lost North Texas. Tulane finished 27th. They lost to UTSA. I just.

[D]

Are they the only three loss team you have in? Yeah.

[A]

And that's what I said in the blurb. In the blurb. I was like, we have not had a three loss team in the rankings.

[D]

Yet, but if we do, it'll be an SEC team.

[A]

I said, but Tennessee has a chance to have that quote honor after falling to Oklahoma on Saturday night. I think Iowa would have a case. South Florida, San Diego State, all of them could be likely candidates, but I could see voters again as my Projection of voters behavior. I could see voters just choosing to keep Tennessee in those.

[D]

I think they'll stay in because the power rating voters will have them still in the top 15 to 20 ish.

[A]

And we have identified them at this.

[D]

Point and I think that will carry them over. A couple other teams who may be from the I I love what you're doing. Voter pile will overpower them.

[A]

Quality loss looking team.

[D]

Where'd you have Notre Dame at? Because that was like a pretty lackluster performance from the Irish today.

[A]

So there was a huge gap between Notre Dame and BYU in voting points last week, but with the other teams losing they could not change their order and still move up. If Texas like Texas Tech being ahead of Notre Dame, I could understand. I don't think Texas will jump Notre Dame so that means they're probably at 10 or 9.

[D]

I mean it happens. They just were not very impressive at all today.

[A]

I mean look ahead spot to Navy. Are you going to prep for Boston College? You're going to prep for Navy?

[D]

Fair enough point. Honestly.

[A]

Yeah, I'm. I am 30 kidding with that one.

[C]

Navy was kind of like the UVA of the American, by the way, what.

[A]

With all the luck box wins. Yeah, we'll see. Again, feel free to go. Actually don't feel free. You should go. Go and check out the full tomorrow's top 25. Feel obligated. Please feel obligated to go to CBSSports.com and go check out our projection for what the new AP Top 25 poll is going to look like. Where would y' all put uva? Where would I put uva? I would punish UVA a little bit more for the way that things went at Cal. I did not think it was very impressive to watch the game unfold. However it ends up being a decent final score. They're 8 and 1. You know, for the first time since 1997 wins in a row. For the first time since 2007, I think Virginia lands at 13.

[C]

Also like Virginia's loss looks better now that NC State beat Tech. Florida State 1, Louisville 1, Carolina 1. So some of their wins look slightly better.

[A]

Yeah, but again, lot of ball left to play in the acc, a league that has taken a little bit of hit with two top 10 teams losing here in week 10. We will be back maybe on Sunday. We'll see.

[D]

Please, no.

[A]

Please no.

[D]

Listen, I love you boys, but this is the time of year now we got the playoff rankings that are going to be coming out. We're going to be doing Tuesday night shows. I do not need to look at you guys every single day. I do not need to talk to you and you guys don't need to talk to me.

[C]

That's correct.

[D]

Let's, let's just have a damn day off. How about it? How about we all agree that nothing happens tomorrow?

[A]

Listen, it would be disrespectful to just wait till after church. You know, just, come on. Don't, don't fire. Don't, don't fire. Hugh Freeze during church. Just give me, give me like a little 2pm I could do 2pm let's go half time of the 1pm Games. Okay. Auburn, can you do that? John Cohen. John, I know you're a big fan of the COVID 3 podcast. I know you're watching right now.

[D]

Actually, you know what? If you look at the NFL schedule tomorrow, like the, the 4pm Games kind of suck. So do it at 4pm except for that.

[A]

4:25 Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes on CBS, 4pm 4:25pm Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes, CBS well, okay, fine. But NFL today on the scene at the game.

[C]

That's gonna be good.

[A]

That's gonna be great. I can't wait to watch it on all of my televisions. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Fornelli, follow him@bud Elliott3. You can follow me at Chip underscore Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

CBS Wednesdays, I run to the chaos.

[A]

And Survivor is chaos. As a mother of a four year old, this is vacation.

[C]

This season they're going back home. It's trial by the elements.

[A]

Surprise.

[C]

I'm on Survivor.

[A]

That's how you do it. Survivor feels like a culmination of my entire life. Everything has led to this moment. Who will help have what it takes?

[C]

Survivor new CBS Wednesdays at 8. 7 Central and streaming on Paramount.

[A]

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