Week 12 INSTANT REACTION: Oklahoma Upsets Bama, A&M & Georgia Tech Come Back | College Football

Summary

Cover 3 College Football – Week 12 Instant Reaction

Episode: Oklahoma Upsets Bama, A&M & Georgia Tech Come Back
Date: November 16, 2025
Hosts: Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Danny Kanell, Bud Elliott

Overview

This week’s Cover 3 pod delivers instant reactions to a packed Week 12, highlighted by Oklahoma’s stunning upset of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, Georgia’s statement win over Texas, Texas A&M’s historic comeback, wild swings across the SEC and ACC, and playoff positioning drama. The hosts dissect each top result, dig into stats, and bring their signature blend of expertise and humor. The live YouTube chat “tailgate” adds flavor, with fans crowning Oklahoma as Alabama’s new “boogeyman.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Georgia Dominates Texas – Statement Win

• Performance Breakdown:
  • Georgia defeated Texas 35-10 in a dominant performance that the hosts saw as a “statement win,” despite box score parity in passing yards.
  • Georgia’s run game and versatility were a clear separator, as was offensive line improvement ("the offensive line keeps getting better" – Bud Elliott, 03:44).
  • Texas never truly competed: “They scored touchdowns in their first two drives... They were never in this game from the very start. Georgia just put it out quick… That was just a thorough ass whooping.” (Tom Fornelli, 04:48)
• On-Field Execution:
  • Offensive coordinator Mike Bobo was praised for creative, high-leverage play calls—“It takes some nuts to line up in two backs, four tight ends and pull that shift and trust your guy to throw it.” (Bud Elliott, 12:55)
• Concerns:
  • Ongoing injury issues on Georgia’s defense, losing key linebackers during the game.
• Playoff Threat:
  • Hosts say Georgia is peaking at the right time and is atop the list of teams “no one wants to play” in the playoffs (05:51).

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Oklahoma’s Upset at Alabama – Grit, Special Teams, & Turnovers

• Game Script:
  • Oklahoma won with only 212 yards of offense, almost doubled up in yardage (Bama: 406).
  • Key? Three turnovers (including a muffed punt), stout defense, a clutch kicker ("their kicker is an absolute stud, by the way. Here's 55, no sweat." – Bud Elliott, 16:16), and dominant special teams (blocked FG, long returns).
• Alabama’s Flaws:
  • Ty Simpson’s bad game and turnovers proved decisive: “I just think Ty Simpson played poorly and the way Alabama is constructed this year… they can’t afford Ty Simpson playing poorly.” (Tom Fornelli, 18:25)
  • For Alabama, “this isn’t the end of the world… but at some point you have to start to clean some of these things up, because you can’t just keep getting away with it.” (Damien Harris, 08:11)
• Notable Stats:
  • Oklahoma’s longest play was only 22 yards, underscoring how much the game hinged on defense and opportunism.
• Playoff Implications:
  • Oklahoma has "a really good shot to make the playoff," but with such a low offensive ceiling, their remaining games are “losable.”
• Memorable Quote:
  • "Crimson and cream Iowa did what crimson and cream Iowa does and takes advantage of your mistakes." (Tom Fornelli, 19:27)

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Texas A&M’s Record Comeback & South Carolina’s Collapse

• Game Flow:
  • A&M trailed 33-3 at halftime against South Carolina but staged their largest comeback ever.
  • Hosts lambasted South Carolina QB Marcel Reed's first half as “one of the worst halves of football,” but he rebounded dramatically in the second half.
• Resilience:
  • Depth at running back was key for the Aggies. “This has been a well-constructed roster… we continue to see the fruits of that.” (Chip Patterson, 25:12)
• Historic First:
  • “Teams were 0-286… now they're 1-286 since 2004” when trailing by such a deficit in the SEC (Tom Fornelli, 27:06).
• Laughs at Shane Beamer’s expense:
  • South Carolina’s head coach’s halftime celebration video quickly became a meme: “Inflatable tube, man. That was an inflatable tube, man. Ass celebration.” (Bud Elliott/Chip Patterson, 28:45)

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Ole Miss, Georgia Tech, & “Avoided Disaster” Games

• Ole Miss Overcomes Florida:
  • Kiwan Lacey ran for 224 yards and 3 TDs in a second-half rout, but the defense and play-calling brought concern. “It felt like they were going to move it no matter what, but it was a sloppy 538 yards.” (Bud Elliott, 31:56)
• Georgia Tech’s Wild Win:
  • Down 11 in the fourth, Tech rode to victory in a game with nearly 1200 yards of total offense.
  • Coach Brent Key had a surly postgame: “Smile, coach, you did win. He goes, yeah, all right, go.” (Tom Fornelli, 41:29)
  • “Georgia Tech’s defense is a capital P Problem… It’s very difficult to imagine them as a threat to Georgia.” (Chip Patterson, 41:23)

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National Landscape, Playoff Projections & Poll Talk

• Playoff Race Reset:
  • New pecking order shapes up with:
    • 1. Ohio State
    • 2. Georgia
    • 3. Indiana
    • 4. Texas Tech
    • 5. Ole Miss
    • 6. Oregon
    • 7. Texas A&M
    • 8. Oklahoma
    • Alabama at #9 despite three losses.
    • (09:47)
• AP Ballot Debates:
  • Texas’ ranking after their 3rd loss prompts debate: “It is going to be stunning to see a three loss team as high as Texas will be. I fear, not should, but will.” (Chip Patterson, 88:46)
  • Bottom of the ballot remains a “flavor of the day.” Teams like Tulane, Missouri, North Texas, Navy are vying for spots thanks to chaos at the edge of the Top 25.

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Additional Highlights & Memorable Banter

Coaching Carousel Watch

• Jokes about emergency podcasts if South Carolina fires Shane Beamer, but latest rumor is he'd be retained to keep roster intact (97:47).

Playoff Team "Danger Lists"

• Hosts joke about Georgia, Notre Dame, and others as “scary playoff matchups.”
  • “I would not want to play them in the playoff.” (Tom Fornelli, 48:50 about Notre Dame)

Notable One-Liners

• "Texas is addicted to receivers who can't catch." (Tom Fornelli, 07:45)
• “Crimson and cream Iowa did what crimson and cream Iowa does.” (Tom Fornelli, 19:27)
• “Inflatable tube, man. That was an inflatable tube, man. Ass celebration.” (Bud Elliott/Chip Patterson, 28:49)
• “Shane Beamer can get a job standing in front of a used car dealership.” (Tom Fornelli, 28:40)
• “He throws this ball from, like, the 45” (Bud Elliott, 83:30)

Other Big Game Notes

• USC leaned on second-half resilience for a comeback win over Iowa.
• Navy’s upset of USF creates AAC chaos—Navy now tied atop the conference.
• Miami thrashes NC State; Virginia punishes Duke in an “outclassed in every way” performance.
• Arizona’s turnaround continues, sitting at 7-3 and surging.
• Hosts keep a running bit about absurd Heisman campaigns and resume nitpicks (see “Jeremiah Love for Heisman” debate, 46:21).

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Key Timestamps

• 03:44 – 05:51: Georgia’s dominance over Texas
• 07:45 – 08:11: Texas drops, Alabama’s issues exposed
• 09:47: Playoff seed outlook post-upsets
• 14:58 – 19:27: Alabama-Oklahoma: Turnovers and narratives
• 22:55 – 27:16: Texas A&M’s comeback, South Carolina’s collapse, memes
• 31:56 – 34:41: Ole Miss-Florida reaction
• 41:27: Georgia Tech coach Brent Key’s viral postgame
• 46:21: Jeremiah Love’s Heisman campaign debate
• 88:46: AP Top 25 ranking predictions and lamentations

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Tone & Language

The episode moves with energy, signature sarcasm, and deep knowledge. The hosts juggle rapid analysis, stats, and banter. Fan memes and coach antics are mocked affectionately, and inside jokes abound (e.g., “inflatable tube man,” “crimson and cream Iowa,” “belt to Ash,” the “Cover 3 tailgate”).

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For New Listeners

If you missed this episode, expect fast-paced, insightful, and irreverent breakdowns of each major game and the broader playoff picture. The hosts mix detailed football analysis with memes and fan observations, making it both informative and entertaining for college football die-hards and casual fans alike.

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For the full AP Top 25 projections and additional coverage, visit CBSSports.com. Tune in Monday at 11am ET for ‘Upon Further Review,’ and follow @Cover3Pod for emergency pods and up-to-the-minute coaching carousel news.

Transcript

[Chip Patterson]

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[Bud Elliott]

Welcome Back to the COVID 3 podcast with your hosts, Chip Patterson, Tom Fernelli.

[Tom Fornelli]

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[Bud Elliott]

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[Chip Patterson]

And welcome back to the COVID 3 podcast here on CBS Sports. That's Tom Fenelli, that's Bud Elliott. I'm Chip Patterson coming to you [e-mail] cover3 and everywhere you get your podcast on demand. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that, subscribe smash that like and come and join us in the chat, aka the COVID 3 tailgate, where they are alleging Oklahoma is the new boogeyman for Alabama. Interesting. We will consider so much to get into on what was just a great. I'm gonna, I'm gonna declare it. Tom, Bud and I were talking about a little bit before we got started. Great day of ball fun College football day. We don't have many of them left. Not a lot of full college football Saturdays left. I mean, half the Southeastern Conference is taking next week off, so you, you know, not going to get all that we, we had a great SEC day. Plenty of SEC results to get to, but lots, lots to be able to peel apart. Georgia's a big winner. Oklahoma, as we mentioned, stuns Alabama and Tuscaloosa. Then there's like a whole other comeback corner avoid disaster region of our day that included Ole Miss trailing Florida. That included Texas A and M's biggest comeback in school history. That included Georgia Tech down double digits at booty cheeks.

[Tom Fornelli]

Whoa.

[Chip Patterson]

Big day. Big day. But for the term, for the purposes of sort of like, you know, starting at the top, starting where we just were. Is this a Kirby smart win or is there an individual aspect of Georgia's performance? What is the biggest takeaway from Georgia handling business against Texas?

[Bud Elliott]

That Georgia keeps improving. I mean like 35, 10. I. The yardage doesn't say so, but I, I thought they were like pretty crisp overall. Like they were physical. The offensive line keeps getting better. You know, if you like, you have the stats on the screen now. Passing game pretty even overall, with the exception that, you know, Texas needed 43 attempts to go for 251 and Georgia needed 29 to go for 229. But the balance Georgia had, I know like, like Michael H. Famous said, you know, balance is stupid, but, you know, Georgia had a run game and Texas did not. I thought both linebacker cores played really, really well. Like they're flying all over the field, but Georgia's had more answers scheme wise and I think they're able to just be a little more versatile than Texas is right now playing at home. They get the momentum like they, I think, like to bounce back off the interception there to go out and blow like, blow Texas out. This is, it's kind of a statement win for Georgia, man.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, unquestionably, Tom, the box score like you said, but it's not really going to sit there and make you think that Georgia absolutely beat the dog piss out of Texas. But Georgia beat the dog piss out of Texas.

[Bud Elliott]

Yep.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, they scored touchdowns in their first two drives. The only touchdown they allowed came on a 36 yard drive by Texas after, I think Gunner Stockton threw the interception. Like Texas didn't do anything. They had the one really long field goal drive and then late in the fourth quarter when Georgia was up 25, they went 64 yards before turning it over on downs. I mean, they were never in this game from the very start. Georgia just put it out quick. Texas's defense had a moment there in the second and third quarter where they were at least able to slow or stop Georgia, but Their offense never did anything to help them get back into the game. That was just a thorough ass whooping. And then you throw the onside kick in there to steal the extra possession. Just. Yeah. Georgia is a much better football team than Texas. Georgia is a team that has looks like it's improving. It's like it messed around a lot early in the year, especially with, you know, in these SEC games. It has not messed around the last two weeks. It's. It's looks like it's one of those peaking at the right time kind of deals. Don't really want to play Georgia right now.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, we need to make a list of teams you don't want to play in the college football playoffs. That's a good bit too, you know, hey, hey, let's go through. Who are the teams you don't want to play? Georgia. Nearly at the top of that, if you are watching live on YouTube.com cover3, then you are seeing the tailgate erupt because this is a great instant reaction show because we've got Danny Cannell hanging out. DK Joining the party. Yep. You suggested that you might be down, so I appreciate you staying up for us. How we doing as we get rocking and rolling here? 11:20pm Eastern Time, well past your bedtime here on a Saturday night.

[Bud Elliott]

You said joining the party. The party is here because look who I look.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes. I didn't. I didn't expect Damien to be in much of a partying mood after today.

[Bud Elliott]

Damien, I mean, why do you want to go there tomorrow? There goes the party.

[Tom Fornelli]

I might not come back now. I might not.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, can I just get a. How about Kirby Smart and those Georgia Bulldogs? I mean, sometimes you think they're not going to get it done the first.

[Tom Fornelli]

Half of the year, and then it.

[Chip Patterson]

Just becomes an ass whooping the whole entire game. It's truly unbelievable.

[Tom Fornelli]

It was.

[Chip Patterson]

Hold on.

[Tom Fornelli]

Might I say something, though? Might I say something?

[Bud Elliott]

Of course we're going to give a.

[Tom Fornelli]

Lot of love to the Georgia Bulldogs. Respectfully so.

[Bud Elliott]

Georgia Bulldogs.

[Tom Fornelli]

Excuse me. The Georgia Bulldogs. Respectfully so. At the beginning of this game, Texas receivers, they let Arch Manning down. They gave him a reason to not be confident. When we talk about a lot of the things that we've seen for Archmanning throughout the year, his receivers, the guys surrounding him, they gave him a reason to believe it was going to be the same old sugar, honey, ice and tea tonight as it's been all year long. They did not come through for him and that that played a part in why he played so poorly.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Hey, Dave.

[Tom Fornelli]

Texas is addicted to receivers who can't catch. That has been a good team with this team.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, look, he looks real fast on the track. It's like, it's like the spirit of A.D. mitchell just continues to be. Be haunted all the way through. All right, Dame. What do we make of the Tide? What do we make of Kaylin DeBoer's first home loss in. Brian.

[Tom Fornelli]

Listen, I won't hold back. This isn't by any stretch of the imagination the end of the world. Alabama very much controls their own destiny. But when you look at this game, there were a lot of things that we've seen previously in the season that when we looked at the game tonight, we were like, it makes sense. I'll give you guys an example. When Alabama played Florida State at the beginning of the season, it was a simple play inside the red zone. They ran a slant to Ryan Williams off coverage. They didn't connect. Whatever it was, the timing was off. He didn't catch it. Whatever it was, they did not connect. So I sat here and I looked and I thought and I talked to Danny and a bunch of people on the show and I said, if you can't complete a three yard slant, your two best players on offense, two best players on your team, you can't complete a three slip slant, three step slant, a three step slant, how do you expect in the biggest moment of the season to create on a play where you gotta have it, where you gotta create on a four down, on an out route, you gotta hit it. They couldn't. And I go back to that first game where they couldn't complete a slant route. Bill Belichick used to say all the time, if our best players cannot complete simple plays, base game plan plays, how can we expect that to work in the heat of the moment when the moment matters the most? That's it. Now, all that to be said, it's not the end of the world for Alabama. It's not. But at some point you have to start to clean some of the, some of these things up because you can't just keep getting away with it game after game after game.

[Chip Patterson]

Also, isn't there some of the, like, bad time to have a bad game for Ty Simpson, Uncharacteristic from the way the rest of the season went. Oklahoma's good enough that they're gonna make you damn pay. You know, you make those mistakes. Yeah, Every single time. So I'm with you, Damon. It's season eight. Season eight. Put me through the blender. So Now, I think this is it. You have number one, Ohio State, number two, Georgia, number three, Indiana. Number four, Texas Tech. Five, Ole Miss. Six, Oregon, 7aM eight, Oklahoma with a head to head over Bama. Nine, Alabama with three losses, but still getting rewarded for making the SEC game, which I think they still can. Notre Dame, Georgia Tech. JMU as the 12th JMU over the American. No way. American.

[Tom Fornelli]

The odds favorite.

[Chip Patterson]

I did see several ones that had.

[Tom Fornelli]

JMU in there with the odds. Say JMU is not getting into the playoff. You guys are going to have strength of schedule. That's like 120th.

[Chip Patterson]

Wait on out for sure. But it's not just winning. You got to cover.

[Tom Fornelli]

No.

[Chip Patterson]

Now I'm going home. Go Dogs.

[Tom Fornelli]

All right. Yeah. We've hijacked enough time.

[Bud Elliott]

North Texas.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay.

[Bud Elliott]

And the UFC fight. I just paid 80 bucks for any USC fight.

[Chip Patterson]

I don't know why.

[Tom Fornelli]

Hey, hey, it'll be free soon. Watch. I was gonna say we don't have to pay for it much longer.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, Cam.

[Bud Elliott]

See you guys. Elon Phoenix, right here.

[Chip Patterson]

Give me one of those hats. All right. Thanks for checking in. Yes, that was for those of you listening at home. Go check it out on YouTube.com cover three. That was Danny Cannell. That was Damien Harris. That was Mackenzie Brooks. That was Jordan Giorgio, and that was Elon. Volleyball future star Cameron Canal making an appearance as well. In terms of what Georgia did, well, there are. Offensively, there was a. There was a meat left on that bone early. Like, to your point about the box score not lining up with the way the game felt watching, there was still some places where they could have hit some plays and been able to run this up even more.

[Bud Elliott]

That Texas defense is good.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

You know, like, I mean, guys, Bama put more yards on Oklahoma than Georgia did on Texas. You know, like, Oklahoma's defense, I think is the best one in the SEC probably, but, like, Texas is probably two. You know, like, that's a really good D. And credit to Georgia for, like, finding answers. Like, those Texas backers run really well. They're getting in passing lanes. Like that. That was a. I think a nice game of adjustments by Bobo, like, to keep stocking comfortable. I think to find answers for him. Like, that was. That was good coaching. I know the Georgia fans in our chat, like, it's kind of our long running bit on the show. Like. Like, let's try and get Mike Bobo hired elsewhere. I thought he coached well tonight.

[Chip Patterson]

I did, too.

[Tom Fornelli]

Royals.

[Chip Patterson]

Royals award.

[Tom Fornelli]

Let's go.

[Chip Patterson]

No, but like, the. The calls on those big fourth Downs were good, you know, like the key plays where everything was hanging in the balance and Texas just wouldn't die. They came up with big plays. It was. It was very impressive.

[Bud Elliott]

It. It takes some nuts to line up in, in two backstory tight ends and, you know, like, pull that shift and, like, trust your guy to throw it.

[Chip Patterson]

God, was so gimmicky. My heart. I. I don't even think I was invested at that point in anything. I just was like, okay, are we sure we. I've seen so many offensive linemen and, like, offenses mess up little, like, shifts, you know, end up getting that illegal procedure penalty, and they. They pulled it off. That was good coaching. I thought it was a. I thought it was a good performance from the Dogs as well. I've got one somewhat sour note here. We do keep losing bodies to injury on Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. Got a good offense. Right. And we talked about the offensive line getting healthier. Thought Noah Thomas stepped up in a really big way. I know that it sounded like Herb street was talking about that on the broadcast as well. A wide receiver group that is, you know, had to deal with some injuries. He. He's been a nice. A nice shining star over the last two weeks. But defensively, it was Allen then Miller, right? Does that sound right? Allen in the first half, then Miller in the second.

[Bud Elliott]

Did Alec. Did Miller come back in?

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, he might have come back in. You're right.

[Bud Elliott]

I may not. I may not be. I'm not saying I'm asking, but somebody in the chat will recognize if he came back in or not. Miller came back.

[Tom Fornelli]

Okay. I thought so. In the fourth quarter, that one.

[Chip Patterson]

Miller came back in. But, yeah, man, C.J. allen's a really good player. There's. They've got super, super talented young players on this roster. We've been talking about it all season. It's a good thing that they've had the experience they've got, because now they're going to get called into playing huge games in the postseason. We'll see where it goes from there. Dealer's choice, Tom Fornelli. Yo, you want to go to avoided upset or take it to Oklahoma?

[Tom Fornelli]

Let's take it to Oklahoma. I mean, we're already kind of on the subject there. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Sooners first win against the top five team with this few yards of total offense since 2000.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's kind of an insult stat.

[Chip Patterson]

Or a compliment stat.

[Tom Fornelli]

That feels more like an insult stat to me. To Oklahoma.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, it's like, you won, but this is the way they have to win. I know we've talked about it, like, several weeks in a row, right? Like, they couldn't. They probably were not gonna be able to score with Tennessee. They're out. They're almost doubled up in yardage. 406 to 212. And yet, you know, like. Like, if you look at it, you get the three turnovers, right? Or four.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, three turnovers.

[Bud Elliott]

And the. Alabama recovered one two fumbles, including the punt. Yeah, right. You know, if. If you use, like, to get real nerdy with it, like a 45 yard, you know, basically, like hidden yardage adjustment. Tack on 135 to your 212. You're still out, gained by like, 50 something, right? So, yeah, like, this is exactly, like, the perfect way that it had to go. Their kicker is an absolute stud, by the way. It's like, to line up and be like, hey, here's 55. No sweat. Like that.

[Chip Patterson]

That's a.

[Bud Elliott]

A huge weapon for them. When you're playing games that are like, 23 is absolutely, you know, the number. Right?

[Chip Patterson]

We.

[Bud Elliott]

What did we say the number was? We feel really comfortable. If you were Deborah this week.

[Chip Patterson]

We were. But no, we were between 24 and 27. That was what you would take. Chip had 26, 22, if you remember.

[Tom Fornelli]

Almost got that in USC, Iowa.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, we sniffed it. We sniffed it, certainly. But, yeah, I. I think we. With Tom. We were on with Tommy Tran at halftime. Right. And I was like, this is exactly all of the, like, ingredients you need for the recipe for the upset. You know, you were just. You were getting it. You're taking advantage. Just if you play on Oklahoma's terms, they're going to win. And. And it's the tailgate was talking about the boogeyman. Yeah, maybe. But I. I think this is a lot more about. Maybe even, as Damian said, some flaws that might have been getting masked a little bit and maybe coming home here against a better defense and a. A team that had. This is a team that had enough athletes to hit enough plays to really make you pay, whether it's with the returns, the explosive play, the one explosive play that you need offensively at that perfect time. Oklahoma does have the talent to be able to go and do that.

[Bud Elliott]

And, like, they weren't. I mean, yeah, in theory, like, their long play on the night was 22 yards.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, they didn't really hit any explosives, but they.

[Bud Elliott]

I thought Matier did a good job of, like, we know he misses a lot of stuff within structure, and I'm sure, like Kojik said was like, throw Them all, please. Like there's the one sack. You can see Venables just like go purple. You know, he's like, are you serious? Like, like you just took the sack with two, like two guys wide open like right there. But I thought a couple times he did a nice job of getting out of pressure and like making some big time throws. You know it. It's hard to say. Like yeah, 138 yards a guy bald. He didn't. But I guess he did enough and didn't turn it over, which is, you know, good ish with that defense.

[Tom Fornelli]

Honestly, to me, Alabama looked like Alabama. The only difference was Ty Simpson turned the ball over. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

And dropping the punt. I mean.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Like that's huge.

[Tom Fornelli]

We've said it all year. Like this is a team that can't run the ball and Ty Simpson's doing to put the team on his back stuff and he's carrying that offense and the defense has been good and if you look at the performance today, they still hit a bunch of chunk plays through the air. He hit a lot of those deep ends and all that kind of stuff that he is typically hitting. It's just he had the one red zone interception. He should have had a second red zone interception and got absolutely bailed out by the pass interference. I just think Ty Simpson played poorly and the way Alabama is constructed this year and what they're able to do, they can't afford Ty Simpson playing poorly. And when it happens, I mean the 21 points that they scored, it's not exactly out of character with how much they're scoring in every other SEC game. So. Yeah, I just think that Alabama played well overall but made far too many mistakes. And then crimson and cream Iowa did what crimson and cream Iowa does and takes advantage of your mistakes.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Like if. If you're picking this game again after watching it, you're laying the six points with Bama.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

They almost doubled up in yardage. Like turnovers. You could tell me like you can do certain things defensively let potentially increase your odds of getting turnovers. But like we know turnovers also have a huge random component.

[Tom Fornelli]

Right.

[Bud Elliott]

Otherw the best teams would always lead in turnover margin and they don't. Right. Like Bam is a better team than Oklahoma. Oklahoma played a. Oklahoma was better on the scoreboard today mostly because they played extremely hard. The turnovers, I think that the pressures, I know they had 11 pressures in the first half, maybe that contributed some to Simpson being uncomfortable. But still like they like the goal is to move the ball and Put it in the end zone. Bama moved it way better than Oklahoma did. Like not really close. And you could even say, like, yeah, okay, with the pick six, that takes away a drive. So give owe you like 15 yards. The missing drive.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, no. What was that? Well, I mean, it might not have amounted to anything low scoring game as it was, but Oklahoma had the one really long Satania return. Yeah, like a 40, like a field flipping 40 plus 42 yard return.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. You know, Oklahoma killed him on special teams. They had the long punt return to give themselves a short field. They made the three field goals, including one over 50, and they blocked Alabama's field goal. And that came up kind of big in a two point game.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, their long drive on the day was 41 yards. Like, you know it. Bama's probably pissed about this. Obviously Oklahoma's thrilled because now Oklahoma's got a really good shot to make the playoff. And you know, but yet, like with this offense, like the LSU game is losable. Right? It is like, like you go up, you put up 212 yards against LSU, you could lose that ball game. Not saying you will, but like, that's such a low margin for air.

[Chip Patterson]

Guys, I, I have trouble this Saturday night being critical about your big picture. Can you win a game in the playoffs you just won in Tuscaloosa? Like that, that is an impact of saying the College Football Playoff makes football worse. If you're trying to like not give flowers to Oklahoma for going into Tuscaloosa and winning like they did in a place where they had only had one loss dating back to the start of.

[Bud Elliott]

2022, and it played their game. Yeah, like that's, that's pretty big.

[Tom Fornelli]

So do they beat Missouri and LSU because they're both at home.

[Bud Elliott]

Also, like, I will say 14 targets for 71 for Bernard is bad. Like, if you're Oklahoma, if you want to like force feed a guy five yards a target, that. That's inefficient football right there. Passing the ball like that. That's. That's not the same thing as 5 yards of carry from a back. Like they're. I'm sure Oklahoma's thrilled with that.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I mean, it might speak to trust.

[Tom Fornelli]

Totally.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, it's all. All we hear is praise for Jeremy Bernard. And at some point that also might mean, well, is he the shining star or is he the only one who's meeting the expectations? Yeah, that's a little reckless for a minute 22, but you know, I usually save those, save those for later all right. At what point did you think Texas A M was going to lose? Because he's even at 30 to 3. I wasn't there yet.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh.

[Bud Elliott]

I was at 33. Like the, the pick in the end zone and then the harbor strike because I had texted my shout out to Sandor, who. Who took Sandor Jr. To the game today. He's a Orlando guy, but like, huge A M fan. It's like, dude, let me see if I can find this. It's like South Carolina can't run the ball for you guys can get stops. You're not totally out of this. And then harbor scored and I was like, okay, this. You guys might be. It's like, this is, you know, I mean. Oh.

[Tom Fornelli]

Not only that fact that it was 33 at halftime, but if you watched Marcel Reed play football in the first half, how the hell did you think Texas A and M was going to come back to win that game?

[Chip Patterson]

It was total distrust of South Carolina.

[Tom Fornelli]

It was legitimately one of the worst halves of football I've ever seen a quarterback have. He was terrible. He should have thrown six interceptions. I thought he was throwing the game.

[Bud Elliott]

It was like, we know he doesn't always see it real well, like just from talking to people who have played him right. Like it's been a thing. And Klein calls it real well. But like, the inaccuracy, that was kind of new. He usually is not missing throws like this. I mean, some of these weren't just like, that's not a good read. Some of these are like, dude, that's like several yards off target. Like these is like the guy on the one pick is not. Is not in any reasonable position to make an interception. The ball is just so damn bad. It's like, hey, cool, I got a pick right like that.

[Chip Patterson]

That's.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. And we don't think he was throwing the game, but his throwing was going to lead us out here a lot of winning the game.

[Tom Fornelli]

The interception he threw in the end zone where he had the dude wide the hell open in the back corner and he came up like 7 yards short. I mean, what was. Yeah, wild ass half. And then the second half started and it looked a lot different. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

371, 500 yards of offense.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, and they could not run the ball at all. Like, shout out to South Carolina, they took that away. But then in the second half, they couldn't really afford to run the ball, so they had to start chucking it. And whatever the hell was bothering Marcel in the first half was gone in the Second half because he looked. He looked like the guy you'd seen all year all of a sudden. So I don't know, maybe he had like, maybe he had to go to the bathroom real bad in the first half and it was just affecting his play.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

But he took care of it at halftime.

[Chip Patterson]

No, look, you're overthinking it. It's the most college football thing ever for the team that is still undefeated in mid November to all of a sudden get the worst case of the drops for your quarterback who's been perfectly fine to all of a sudden totally not be able to see the field. I mean, the only thing that was truly surprising was how many points South Carolina was going to be able to score because it was so bad and so out of character for what Texas A and M had been, that I was. I was still in that. Okay, they just need to get to the locker room as soon as possible. I mean, literally, we were saying in that work room, Tom, we were saying, neil, just kneel the ball. Don't even take any more snaps because more mistakes will happen and more mistakes happened. But obviously they rally a couple of things on the notebook here that throughout the season, you know, ever since Moss, Le'Veon Moss went down, I was like, okay, let's. Let's see about this. The depth at the running back position has been huge for them this year. You know, E.J. smith gets a score, some like, good hard yards, good running here. Felt like Williams has been good at times this year, too. And obviously Owens is super talented, but like, this is. This has been a well constructed roster. And as Mike Elko signed his contract extension this morning, this is. This. This was a good job by him and the personnel staff because we continue to see the fruits of that. Not just going to get cash as how not just going to pick the right spots and identify the right talent. But, man, it's. It's a group. It's a group that's won a lot of different ways this year. And then now we can include the program's biggest comeback win ever.

[Bud Elliott]

So amazing.

[Chip Patterson]

We just. We just had that. Oh, yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Wasn't like the stat that, like, I can't remember what the exact stat was, but it was a situation where teams were oh and 286 before today, and now they're 1 in 286 since 2004.

[Chip Patterson]

In SEC play, facing that deficit, it was 0 and 284. 0, 286. Now it's the 1.

[Tom Fornelli]

So are we doing like a Shane Beamer emergency podcast tomorrow. I mean, that's. That's a rough loss.

[Bud Elliott]

I'll do something mean. But like, you know, his record in SC play is basically the same thing as must champ.

[Tom Fornelli]

I know. And he just blew a 27 point lead.

[Chip Patterson]

And man, that video of him walking to the.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, celebrating at halftime.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, Admins. Hey, admins. You know what Admin should have done? Admin should have gone on FanDuel sportsbook where you can play your game and realize that the live line did not suggest we should be posting this video of his. As. As somebody. Listen, I can say this, okay? I understand this is an offensive comment, but as somebody with gangly arms, the way that Shane Beamer's gangly arms were flapping up in the air trying to hype the crowd up, I just. I'm telling you, the video is just not good. Yeah, it's just. It ain't gonna look good, you know, man, Extremely, extremely tough scenes for Shane gets fired.

[Tom Fornelli]

He can get a job standing in front of a used car dealership.

[Chip Patterson]

Inflatable tube, man. That was an inflatable tube, man. Ass celebration.

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. 100. So yeah. Congrats to Texas A and M. You. You maintain your unbeaten start. The. How about this? Let's have a little fun. We had a great graphic. Thank you to Mikey for putting up on the screen. We don't need it again. But it mentioned that it was the biggest comeback in school history. Who knows the previous record for Texas A M biggest comeback in school history?

[Tom Fornelli]

21.

[Bud Elliott]

Well. Oh, no, that was the reverse because they were involved in the insane Josh Rosen comeback in the Rose Bowl.

[Chip Patterson]

But lost.

[Bud Elliott]

But lost.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I'm trying to think.

[Bud Elliott]

All right, A M huge comeback. Were they in the SEC at the time?

[Chip Patterson]

They were.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, was it South Carolina again?

[Chip Patterson]

It was Johnny Manziel's final college football game against the Duke Blue.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, the bowl game.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, gosh.

[Chip Patterson]

The Chick Fil a bowl. The artist formerly known as the Peach bowl, now known as the Peach bowl once again now in the College Football Playoff. Yes, the Duke Blue Devils, led by David Cutcliffe, that had they were the ACC runner up to Florida State, went to the Peach bowl at a 21 point lead. Shout out to Connor Vernon. Shout out to everybody else on that squad. But that. That is the. The record that has now fallen on this day. Sorry, Johnny Football. You've been a reason a M history.

[Tom Fornelli]

I should have known it was a Johnny Football game. But my mind, for whatever reason, immediately went to Kenny Trill.

[Chip Patterson]

Kenny Trill gave us that One Thursday night against, against South Carolina.

[Tom Fornelli]

So, yeah, he's going to be the greatest player of all time.

[Chip Patterson]

It was going to be. Texas A M is just going to have incredible quarterbacks forever. Did you hear they got this guy named Kyler Murray? I'm at the risk of getting like two in deep the, the SEC waters. Ole Miss. Thank God you got Kiwan Lacey. I mean, he's really good. We've talked about him. He, he started off maybe five, six games in the season. He was leading the SEC in rushing. He continues to bring something that I know we've talked about balance to this Ole Miss offense in a way that has been very helpful and very productive. Now, Ole Miss made some, some really, really rough mistakes in the first half of this football game. And then there were some choices made by both teams in the second half. But defense shows up for the Rebels. Ole Miss avoids disaster. They end up winning by 10. But buddy, it was not that close. I mean, it was a lot closer than it was on the final score.

[Bud Elliott]

It felt like they were going to move it no matter what. I mean, they put up 538 total yards. Like that. That's obviously huge, but it was like a. How do you say, like a sloppy 538. I get like an inconsistent 538 in some ways. I don't know if that makes sense. Obviously, like Florida starting first half was, was pretty wild. Like that was. We don't think this Ole Miss defense is like a, a championship caliber defense. I, I don't think. But like to throw the shut out there in the second half is, is super impressive. Like, that was wild.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, it was a weird two halves there. Like DJ Lagway in the first half looked like the guy you dream about, and then in the second half he looked like the guy you've seen far too often. And just, I mean like the one interception he threw when he was like running to his left and trying to do the cool sidearm throw back across his body.

[Bud Elliott]

Just.

[Tom Fornelli]

Brother, we can't be doing that out there. But no, I mean, this was, this was the. Come on Lacy Show. 224 yards rushing, three touchdowns. I mean, it, it, like you said, Chip, it was a 10 point game, but like the second half of that game was all Ole Miss.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, a weird one. I didn't have a good feel for it. It was never my primary game. I was just kind of tracking almost on upset alert and so I'll have to, I'll. I'll have to give it fresh eyes before I'VE got any like deep dive thoughts on Ole Miss from it. I'm not going to take anything away from Florida.

[Bud Elliott]

I watched it quite a bit. Like Ole Miss pass rush was just kind of non existent tonight. Like they didn't. I mean, Lagway's been sacked a pretty good bit this year. Despite what I think is a decent Florida O line. Florida did lose their center, it looked like, which after that they started to sputter a little bit. That was right at the end of the first half. And so I wonder how much that matter because Slaughter is a pretty good player for them in the middle. But still, like you would think they would get some more pass rush, but that's. That was an issue at times. Like Stockton was extremely comfortable against them the entire second half in Athens. It's a really good offense, but they have got to find a way to affect the pastor more on defense.

[Tom Fornelli]

One question I have for you guys and I should probably hit a break after the third quarter. Coming back, Lane Kiffin is being interviewed by Chris Button. And I had it muted so I wasn't listening, but he looked like he was doing the typical Lane Kiffin sideline interview thing where he's just, you know, he's hamming it up. Then they go to play and then Ole Miss has to call a timeout for their first snap of the fourth quarter after having the entire commercial break. Did Lane spend so much time talking to Chris Budden that he forgot to call a play?

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, my God.

[Tom Fornelli]

Because I don't think that's what happened, but I think there's a 10% chance that is what happened.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, do we have better theories?

[Chip Patterson]

We will.

[Tom Fornelli]

He was so, he was so concerned about doing the interview. He's like, oh shit, I got a play to call.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, large, large companies have come to an agreement. My DVR has access again. I'll have to watch out. I'll have to give it, have to give it a little re watch here to, to be able to put that, put that to the test. I'm glad you brought it to our attention. We will have an answer on upon further review. All right, coming up on the other side, we continue our run through some of the biggest results from week 12 and some of the most interesting ones, including Georgia Tech's epic comeback against Boston College. Yes, Texas A and M was not the only one to avoid disaster. Another strong second half performance, this one coming from usc. In the rain, Michigan's bullpen nearly blows it. And more next. Whether you're raising a glass to your team winning, catching up with old buddies back in town, or just trying to stay sane with a house full of relatives, how you feel the next morning still matters. That's why you can try Pre Alcohol zbiotics Pre Alcohol Probiotic drink is the world's first first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists specifically to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Here's how it works. When you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's the buildup of this byproduct, not dehydration, that's really to blame for those rough next days. Pre alcohol produces an enzyme that breaks this byproduct down so so you can feel your best tomorrow. Just remember to make pre alcohol your first drink of the night and of course drink responsibly. Had a big night with some of my best friends from high school recently. It was a steak night. And of course in that kind of night when you might have a cocktail, you might have some wine with dinner and of course a big meal, you knew there was going to be a lot going on in the gut. But my friend showed up. He had the prebiotic from Zbiotics and sure enough, the next morning felt a lot better. No sluggishness, no regrets. Make the most of every toast, tailgate and touchdown this holiday season. Just don't forget to bring pre Alcohol along for the ride. Go to ZBiotics.com cover to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use Code cover at checkout. Zebiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you are unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money, no questions asked. Remember to head to zbiotics.com cover and use code cover at checkout for 15% off.

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[Bud Elliott]

I mean, yeah, like that. I, I sprinkled BC and then, I.

[Tom Fornelli]

Mean it's the ACC. I'm not ruling anything out.

[Bud Elliott]

BC's defense means that they are never like the opponent's, never fully out of the game.

[Chip Patterson]

That's where I was.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean Tech had 620 yards of office.

[Tom Fornelli]

There were nearly 1200 yards of offense in this game.

[Chip Patterson]

See, and it's so funny because I had before we get out of here, we're going to talk about Navy and South Florida. That was the game that I had identified as the crazy box score game. And then we had this one. Yeah, you mentioned it. 628 yards for Georgia Tech, 537 for Boston College. Georgia Tech's defense is a capital P. Problem might not keep them from winning the accident which would get them into the College Football Playoff. But it is very difficult to imagine Georgia Tech as a threat, for example, to the Georgia Bulldogs given the way this defense is playing right now.

[Tom Fornelli]

Did you see the Brent Key post game interview on the field?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Tom Fornelli]

It was, it was very funny to the neutral, but Brent Key was not a happy man. I don't know who the sideline reporter was, but you know, she was asking me. She's like, you know, you know, you won. What do you think of that? He's just like, yeah, we won. That's good. Just not saying a word. Just then at the end, she goes, smile, coach, you did win. He goes, yeah, all right, go.

[Bud Elliott]

And then he walks away.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, because they, they got torched by NC State.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, they look like ass. I mean, that's a bad Boston College team.

[Chip Patterson]

They had time to, you know, recalibrate and then they did that. That, that is not just missing Romello height like that is not just a few players. Like they're. Yeah, they're, they're in some trouble right now. They have Pitt, by the way, coming up next as their final ACC game. They are playing pit at home. And while I realize that Pitt did end up getting run by Notre Dame, that is still an offense that can score with your offense. When's the total getting released on that one?

[Tom Fornelli]

62 and a half is my guess.

[Bud Elliott]

Is it out? It might be out.

[Tom Fornelli]

Might be out.

[Bud Elliott]

Let's see here.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, hey, listen, jumping blind on openers doesn't always work. Says the, says the Utah State UNLV. Surely this will hit 70 points. No, pal, we're going to double overtime and we ain't sniffing 60.

[Tom Fornelli]

Play defense in the Mountain West.

[Bud Elliott]

Chip.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, it's not the acc.

[Bud Elliott]

Okay.

[Chip Patterson]

What about Notre Dame?

[Tom Fornelli]

And went exactly how I thought it was going to go. I mean I, I posed the question and I would like to pose it to you gentlemen here again. If you remove Florida State from the equation, Pitt's little win streak, Syracuse, NC State, Stanford and who is the other one? Ah, thank you, Michael. Boston College. If you put together an all star team of those four teams, are they or that is that team beating Notre Dame?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Tom Fornelli]

Okay. I mean it was, it was bum slaying. And then you ran into a real team today.

[Chip Patterson]

I think Notre Dame's in its current, in its current construction. The way that they are playing beats a lot of all star teams. You can play that game with a lot of schedules. And I, I think I'll take Notre Dame and C.J.

[Tom Fornelli]

Carr played like crap today and Notre Dame cruised.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean a lot of guys look like that against like whether or not it's a good RDC defense, like it's still that style. Right. It potentially rattles you, you know, if you don't hit the big ball over the top, you know, which, like they hit one for 30 plus. Right. So it. They Just handled business defensively and pit at 219 yards. They were really like, they were on, on Mason Heischel a lot. That was, that was a really nice defensive effort, I think, by, by Notre Dame. You know, offensively they were like, okay. You know, like they had some missed opportunities. They probably could have scored, probably could have scored another touchdown, honestly, but didn't. And you know, Love had a nice game. I, I don't think he was like, amazing. Now the one run was really, really like, it was very well blocked up and then he got the second level and the spin move that, that he put on the guy was, was great. You know, I, we see a lot of like Heisman stuff in the chat. I don't, I don't really see that happening this year. I'm not saying you shouldn't go to New York. Maybe you could, but I mean, that's a good football team. Notre Dame. Now people are going to say they really haven't been beating anybody and that's kind of fair, but like, it is. I think it is impressive to go on the road and slam pit like usc. Yeah, right. And USC keeps winning. So, you know, like, USC's a ranked win.

[Tom Fornelli]

Right. And it's not. I mean, again, it's, it's not, it's not always who you play, it's how you play. And that was a noted or that's a pit team that we're talking about as an ACC champion. Potential could get to the playoff. And Notre Dame beat him by three scores. And Notre Dame's beating a lot of teams by 3, 4, 5 scores. They're just beating the crap out of these people.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I mean, like, I know people in the chat are saying he's second in the league or second in the nation in yards from scrimmage. He's also like not top six in Heisman in the current Heisman odds again, I don't see that happening. But he's having a great season.

[Chip Patterson]

But why, why are you squashing.

[Bud Elliott]

I know I'm like, well, what are we doing here? Like, like, I see a lot of like, chat, like, why are you guys not, not, you know, not talking? Love for high.

[Chip Patterson]

If Jacob Rodriguez can strike the Heisman pose after running in a touchdown on some gimmicky ass linebacker touchdown run, then yeah. Jeremiah Love for Heisman. Did he really James in it? Yeah, he did.

[Bud Elliott]

I did not want.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, I don't know. Like, let's. Come on everybody in the party.

[Bud Elliott]

It's possible.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Listen, there is no requirement other than you Being in good standing as a member of an FBS team. It is not a ballot where you have to fill in a bubble sheet. It is a. It is a short answer, not multiple choice. Speak whatever you want to existence fans.

[Tom Fornelli]

He should be a Heisman candidate.

[Bud Elliott]

I'll say this. He should not be 50 to 1.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'll say this because that's what I got him in the preseason at. The fact that he's still 51 is ridiculous. Yeah. That's because people don't know Ball are betting because they're just betting on the quarterback.

[Bud Elliott]

On some sites. Some sites he's been knocked down to 30. That, that makes a little more sense to me.

[Chip Patterson]

Would Texas Tech beat Notre Dame?

[Tom Fornelli]

They wouldn't be favored. They might beat him.

[Bud Elliott]

They might be favored.

[Tom Fornelli]

Some places they might be favored. But I think it'd be like a half a point. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

It wouldn't be like, like a five point thing.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, it's coin flippy. But I don't know, man. I just. Some people were calling Jeremiah Love better than Ashton Genti last year and they were called a madman for saying it. But here I am and I'm still correct, just like I was last year.

[Chip Patterson]

Another aspect of this that I took note of, Notre Dame defense, which we, you know, skewered through the first weeks of the season. Criticism, a lot of it put on Chris Ash. We're here in the deeper part of the season and I understand that the competition has changed, but it. They're kind of young and young in a way that is encouraging. Better. Yeah. So these true sophomores that are super talented and have crazy athleticism are now making all the right plays and not getting called out of position. And now you're like, oh God, they got some monsters over there.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Marcus Freeman is. He's got it built up.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't freaking good, man.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I would not want to play them in the playoff.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Marcus Freeman on anybody, any one of your coaching wish lists, there is no reason for him to leave unless he.

[Tom Fornelli]

Wants an NFL gig. I don't see him leaving for a college gig.

[Chip Patterson]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like throw them in there for whatever SEO you want. But what I see is a healthy program that is continuing to have not only they were national runner up one year ago, they look like they are set to make the playoff and have a team that we all just seem to nod our heads at. Super, super dangerous to play in the playoff with even more players. CJ Carr and key defensive players that are going to be Back next year, too. So.

[Tom Fornelli]

You know what, though? Bill Belichick released a statement today saying he wasn't going to the New York Giants.

[Chip Patterson]

You know, Friday, we're on to Wake Forest.

[Tom Fornelli]

Okay, but you know who didn't release a statement saying he's going to the nf? The New York Giants. Marcus Freeman. Connect the dots, folks.

[Chip Patterson]

Marcus Freeman needs to release a statement. Then you too can get dunked on by Jake Dickert, who goes forward on fourth and goal with less than 30 seconds remaining to run up the score.

[Tom Fornelli]

And kill my under and kill yours.

[Chip Patterson]

Kill my team total. Got everything we needed. We even survived. We even survived the insane fumble, scooped up and then run 40 yards for a touchdown. Unbelievable. I mentioned Texas Tech earlier. I don't have a lot to say. They put.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, they decimated utf.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

That came.

[Tom Fornelli]

That game was off the TV after the first quarter.

[Chip Patterson]

Credit for. For usc.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Man, they made some excellent catches in that game. Just drive after like that second half, like, you guys, you are covering us, but we're still catching it. That. That was impressive. Makai Lemon is. The kid is so good.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, the first half, Iowa was beating the hell out of them. And Chip, we talked about it during the halftime show along the lines of scrimmage, Iowa was just manhandling them. And in the second half, that was not the case anymore. Like, USC got its act together, figured some stuff out, adjusted what it was doing, and then completely shut down the Iowa offense because, I mean, all of Iowa's points came in the first half. They did not score a point in the second half. So, yeah, it was. It was. Because it was nice to see them come back. It was nice to see them be able to do that against a Big Ten football team because it is so important for Lincoln and Dan to play Big Ten football these days. So for that comeback, because like, their playoff hopes were on the line, like, if they lose, they're not getting into the playoff. They have to win out. And the idea that they were going to lose at home to Iowa when they still have, like, you know, Oregon left would have been kind of damning for them. But no, that was huge for them to come back. I still don't think Jade Myova is playing great and I don't think he's been playing great for a while. And that is going to be something that is a concern for them in that Oregon game. But they got through with the win today. That's all that matters for him right now.

[Bud Elliott]

I will say, like one concern going forward. They had zero Tackles for loss against Iowa and Iowa's good old line, but that's a little concerned, like, zero.

[Chip Patterson]

When did Ramsay leave the game? Was that first half? He was knocked out at one point. Yeah, I think their secondary took some hits too.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, they're pretty danged.

[Tom Fornelli]

Ramsay's been dinged all year. He's been going in and out a lot. Yeah, yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's so Lincoln Riley says after the game, we are, we're a second half team. We have been all year. I would agree with that. He also, he also did follow up on something that I, I wasn't sure if I was getting correct. You know, just watching at home. Big Ten broadcast. Did the Coliseum kind of have a nice little vibe here? 12:30 local time, kickoff, pouring rain. It wasn't. I mean, I could see some areas in the upper corners that were maybe a little sparse, but on those third and longs when, like, when they really started to turn up, the pressure felt like there was some energy. And what Lincoln Riley said is, you know, we, we put ourselves in the position to create these kind of atmospheres. And we do see this at some of these places, especially big pro cities. It's like, yeah, if you're in the mix for the playoffs, if you're playing well, they'll show out and they'll come and they'll bring that energy. I thought that, I think that that was one time and, and maybe the Michigan game might have been the other one, but there have been a couple times this season where I felt like the Coliseum has bumped a little bit. And that's been cool just for my, my own little, you know, hey, guess what? Chip's got a soft spot for usc. I don't know if you guys heard.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's disgusting. Like your bias, you, you just can't be it. Like a journalist at any point when it comes to usc, I had it muted, so I can't tell you what the atmosphere was like, but I can tell you that I agree with your assessment that the Los Angeles sports fan is very much a fair weather sports fan. When you're winning, they will be there. When you're not, they could care less.

[Bud Elliott]

And they showed up today even when the weather was not fair.

[Tom Fornelli]

Well, it's kind of like, you know, like people around the country have been going out to see the northern lights because you typically aren't able to see them where they live. So for the people of la, they were able to go out and see rain, which is just not something that they're used to seeing.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Michigan in Wrigley.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, they suck on the road. I mean, they, they won, but Michigan on the road is a problem.

[Bud Elliott]

They're special teams. Like missing field goals, fumbled a punt. I mean, just not very good punting the ball. Like, that's pretty brutal.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, five turnovers clearly really helped keep Northwestern in and around this game. And you look like they outgained it by 250 yards. But like just whatever reason, like they lost Oklahoma. They barely beat Nebraska. They lost to. Who else did they lose to on the road?

[Chip Patterson]

Usc.

[Tom Fornelli]

There you go. Usc.

[Bud Elliott]

Duh.

[Tom Fornelli]

And it's. And they nearly lost on the road in a baseball stadium to Northwestern.

[Bud Elliott]

That, that would have been a ridiculous loss if they did lose this. I mean, to more like to more than double them up in yardage. You know, Bryce goes for almost 300, they run for 200 and you win by two.

[Chip Patterson]

Sharon Moore mentioned, he said you don't win a lot of football games with five turnovers. You're right, Sharon. And you almost didn't.

[Bud Elliott]

Andrew Marsh. Not a bad day.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, not Jake Marsh.

[Chip Patterson]

Not Jake Marsh.

[Bud Elliott]

No, no.

[Tom Fornelli]

Geez.

[Bud Elliott]

Like, I mean, 15 target 15 targets for 189. Like that. That's efficient.

[Chip Patterson]

They lost.

[Tom Fornelli]

He had 189. Bryce had 280.

[Chip Patterson]

So. And, and Marshall left this game with an injury shoulder.

[Bud Elliott]

Right.

[Chip Patterson]

So it was. Yeah, he had a hard fall. That was, that was a big part. So it was a little kudzu who, who came in had to carry the load the rest of the way.

[Bud Elliott]

Northwestern is like, what's the right.

[Tom Fornelli]

Pesky pain in the ass. They're a pain in the ass. They're.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, like, I don't think USC was ever truly going to lose to them. But when USC broke out the, the fake or the, the fake punt pass right. Last week, Northwestern had stronger. Gather some decent drives. Like they're not, they're not awful. Like they're certainly not a good team, but like they're not horrendous. I do think Peter Armstrong would have been better than 1327 for 184, but.

[Chip Patterson]

You know, hey, good call back. I like that.

[Bud Elliott]

So also, and I know they only had 53 plays, but Michigan has two tackles for loss.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I mean, like, Northwestern is the kind of team like that when your team is playing them and they're heavily favored, they're going to give you a lot of anxiety because in the third quarter they're still going to be just hanging around and you'll be like, why the hell aren't we just putting these People away and then eventually you do. But it's never like comfortable, which is a credit to them because when they're playing another Big Ten team, they are not as talented, athletic, or as fast as the team they are playing. And they're winning a lot of these games anyway.

[Chip Patterson]

Michigan, of course, still with two losses, we'll get into their position in the projected AP Top 25. Coming up in just a little bit in some action, Navy knocks off USF in a game that super entertaining. There are major impacts for this one, but what about the football of it all? How much did y' all get your eyes on this one?

[Bud Elliott]

Pretty good bit.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

I had it as one of my quad as I had this one isolated, like this was. This was gonna live. There was gonna be no rotating this one out. Too much fun.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, it's. It's productive to be like, yeah, Navy ran the ball well, because of course, they're Navy. But like they, they really ran the ball well. Like they hit explode. They hit explosives on them at the right time, you know, like that was. It played out kind of like you thought offensively from usf, how it play out, but just like Navy just kept moving it, man. Like, that was really impressive.

[Chip Patterson]

Wasted possessions are so damning for South Florida against Navy. A couple of those three and outs in the first half just seemed really poorly timed and just South Florida gets.

[Tom Fornelli]

A bit sloppy at times. Yeah, I, I mean, it was. That was the matchup like I thought. I thought South Florida would be able to hit plenty of big plays through the passing game against Navy because it's Navy. It's not exactly, you know, an elite secondary as far as talent is concerned. But then Navy, one of the most explosive rushing attacks in the country. Going up against the defense, it's given up a ton of explosive runs. And Navy had a bunch of explosive runs. They had a 76 yard or 64 yard or three runs over 20. Just. It's. Yeah, they had a lot of big plays. They had the big 86 yard touchdown pass. I think it was. I mean, it's. That was a. It was a very, very fun game. And I think that, you know, it's Navy or North Texas now, or maybe East Carolina, the forgotten playoff contender.

[Chip Patterson]

Wow. So awesome. Kate and Hauser stepping back, letting it go from what, 40?

[Tom Fornelli]

We ain't playing for no field goal. We're not playing for overtime.

[Chip Patterson]

Man, I mentioned it, but the. To hear Doudy Fickland Stadium erupt as that touchdown pass is brought in was pretty awesome.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is dowdy. Ficklin Bird, Ficklin's dad.

[Bud Elliott]

People are asking.

[Chip Patterson]

People are asking.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, you know, that place went nuts on that touchdown pass.

[Chip Patterson]

68 seconds remaining as that, as that touchdown pass. And I thought the ECU defense had played well. I mean, you're going up against a really, really gifted and productive Memphis offense. They, you know, withstood kind of the onslaught that they had right before halftime, held him to just 10 points in the second half. It was. You could, you could feel it building like you could feel it building as though ECU was going to have a chance. But man, to, to have it in the emphatic way that they did. Yeah, look at it. 31 yards. Had it 40 plus. Just. I'm going to start telling the story like he threw it from Wilson. I'm going to start telling the story like he threw it from two counties over, you know. But great, great moment in Greenville. And yes, as you mentioned, Tom, the Here's what the American Athletic Conference standings look like right now. First place, the Navy Midshipman six and one. Tied for second two. Lane at five and one. Tied for second. North Texas at five and one. Tied for second ECU at five and one. I. No, we'll. Let's play those on Monday. Right Scenarios. Bud, you good with that or are you running math right now?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, no, I'm just thinking like James Madison resume. Watt. Yeah, we could save for Monday. I, I do wonder if like if jmu, if it's jmu, ECU as a debate. I wonder if JMU clears them.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, because if it's a one loss ecu, then whoever, they'll have beaten Memphis or. No, it won't be one loss, it'll be three loss. But they'll have beaten Memphis and then they'll have beaten North Texas or Navy in the AC AAC Championship, which will be better than any win JMU has because I will point out Southern Miss got dog walked by Texas State tonight, so that hurts James Madison's likely strength to schedule even further. And also Louisville lost. James Madison's high point on their resume is losing by 14 to Louisville, a team that might finish 8 and 4. JMU is not getting in. I don't care what the odds say or what the sports line model says. They're not getting in.

[Bud Elliott]

Chilean still has a pretty good shot at this too.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, the winner of the American is in.

[Bud Elliott]

Period.

[Chip Patterson]

I. I love seeing, seeing a job in the chat right now. Excellent Elite host of the Early Edge over on SportsLine YouTube.com sportsline he promised he'd Be showing up and watching live. He's in the tailgate right now. CEO, we appreciate you. We see you here hanging out on a Saturday night, 12:13am Eastern time. All right, let's keep it rolling. I got a couple more things that I'd like to hit, but where would y' all like to go? What's on the notebook?

[Bud Elliott]

Like TCU basically just no showed this game defensively against byu and BYU handled business. I don't want to jinx it, obviously, but like, yeah, it's 27, 10 at halftime.

[Chip Patterson]

How many games have we talked about that had a tale of two halves? That's.

[Bud Elliott]

That's. Yeah, I mean like what four teams we already talked about did not score in the second half. So true. In theory.

[Chip Patterson]

We'll see.

[Bud Elliott]

Utah crushed Baylor.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh my God. You're not gonna believe this, but Baylor's defense couldn't stop the run.

[Chip Patterson]

Stop anybody. Yeah, Bird Ficklin did score long touchdowns in that one.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's been a big day for Ficklin family.

[Bud Elliott]

If you had Arkansas moneyline, dude, that was. That was painful. Like how many times do they get down in the red zone and just not score? They had drives end at LSU's 26, the LSU 9, the LSU 1, and then they missed a field goal. So 10 drives and four of them ended in scoring territory. Like in. In scoring territory with 0.

[Tom Fornelli]

There is one thing I want to bring up, but I gotta find it real quick. So if you guys can stop for three seconds.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay. So is Dave Aranda out at the.

[Tom Fornelli]

End of the year? Yes. Yeah, I found it. Go ahead, finish though.

[Bud Elliott]

Well, I mean it's hard to get stomped like that.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, I think it's. I think it's also Baylor just announced his it's athletic director is going to be going hands off for a little while for any. Numerous. Yeah, you know, it's just like. Ah, okay. Sounds like they got some stuff to handle.

[Tom Fornelli]

All right, here's my. I have a question for you guys and actually this isn't. This isn't for me. This is From X user JPJ to MBA to me, Tom, as the only dude on Cover 3 who doesn't hate the who's. Please hold. Chip Patterson and Bud Elliott's feet to the fire for their constant hating on uva. Little Bud. He called you Little Bud. Little Bud. Can't say this was a luck box win. This was an ass kicking. Virginia beat Duke 34 to 17, ending the ACC doomsday scenario. That was never a doomsday scenario. And that score was misleading. Because it wasn't like 34 to 3 in the fourth quarter.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, yeah, no. 100%. Those lipstick on a pig scores by the Blue crush them late. Yeah, it was. And do you know what? Outclassed in every way, shape and form. Virginia went into Duke's house. They were better looking, they smelled better, they spoke more coherently, and they won the affection of everyone around. Duke's girl left and went home with Virginia. Outclassed in your own house, Top to bottom.

[Tom Fornelli]

Duke's girl's fine, too.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I mean, they more than double their yardage. And through three quarters, it was. Give me a second here. Three quarters. It was 483 to 149. Yeah, I was like, Duke, the game has started two hours ago. You guys might want to show it. UVASD Linux came to play.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, no, I. I thought.

[Tom Fornelli]

And.

[Chip Patterson]

And the defense, like Robinson goes down. Remember, he missed the first three games of the season, Then he came back, then he got knocked out again, and backup came in. He was wrapping up on, like, key third downs. It was a they. Virginia came ready to play and. And Duke did not. And when I say outclassed, I'm using many Diaz's words. That was his description. You know, today we saw Manny Diaz. Oh, a little triangle chip. Manny Diaz, Dave Doran and Bill Belichick all got their ass kicked today. And all of them came to their basketball season, and all of them came to their press conferences and were like, you know, many Diaz said, we got outclassed. Dave Doran said, got my ass kicked. He sort of like, started chomping at a reporter who was trying to. Anybody, hey, your birthday's coming up. What do you want for your birthday? Dave Doran was like, what do you.

[Tom Fornelli]

Somebody asked Dave Doran what he wants for his birthday in a press conference.

[Chip Patterson]

Let me check that. I. I will. I will go back to check the video on this. But someone was trying to lighten the mood and ask something off. Off base. And Dave Doran at a road game. At a road game press conference was like, I do this for a living. Like, I just. I don't wanna. I don't want to lighten up and talk about. Or maybe he has a kid's birthday or something. I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

But yeah, they.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, they had 95 yards with recorders.

[Tom Fornelli]

Happy birthday, coach.

[Bud Elliott]

That was like just a complete. Miami played hard and Miami played well also. Like, NC State just no. Showed this.

[Chip Patterson]

I know.

[Bud Elliott]

Which means they're gonna beat the Knowles by, like, four scores on Friday. This is just if you know, you know, this is just kind of how this thing works.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. December 3rd is Dave Doran's birthday. So apparently someone was trying to be like hey, your birthday's coming up.

[Tom Fornelli]

Should we send him something?

[Chip Patterson]

Maybe send them a fly fishing. I cannot afford any of the fly fishing gear that Dave Dorn Expensive. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And you know that I mean man's made like $35 million from NC State. So you know he's got good fly fishing gear.

[Tom Fornelli]

Give me a stick and some twine, I'll go fly fishing free.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that was, I don't have any notes on Miami locker.

[Tom Fornelli]

I was impressed because that it's rare that we see Miami in a spot where it has to come out and just absolutely beat the, out of somebody actually just come out and do that like right from the jump. Like they made it very clear, no, this ain't gonna be your day. We're gonna just beat you to hell and then we're gonna take this win and move on with our lives.

[Chip Patterson]

And did Virginia Tech lose the battle but win the war by losing on Saturday night? If you know.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Seriously.

[Chip Patterson]

Asking.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean maybe, but like I think you're in Florida State. You're trying to match that offer. That's, that's silly. Like to me, I, I, I don't know. I just wouldn't be overpaying for somebody right now.

[Chip Patterson]

Is Mike Norvell going to be the head coach against NC State?

[Bud Elliott]

We'll see.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, he will be. Maybe he will be.

[Bud Elliott]

I, I don't know. Shasta, Arizona.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Good win four.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean it put up 475 on a pretty decent like Cincinnati defense. They ran the ball well. Like that was, that was encouraging. I mean FETA looked pretty damn good. That, that's a good sensei team like to go on the road and beat them is, is a real, I mean now they're what, who's their final games? Arizona State. Right. They're seven and three.

[Tom Fornelli]

Who else they have, they have Baylor and Arizona State. So this is a team that could finish nine and three.

[Bud Elliott]

That's a hell of a turnaround after.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Like after what, what happened to them last year. Like, I mean people were discussing like should that be a one and done type staff, you know, which seems kind of, I think absent like just gross incompetence that you probably should not have one and done situations. But like nice work there man. That was, that was good. By Goodbye Arizona.

[Chip Patterson]

I had, I thought that Cincinnati might have been well two, two reads on it obviously. Number one, they came up big with stops in scoring position. Number two, Arizona had a lot of scoring opportunities. They had a couple missed field goals. They had to settle for field goals early. Arizona for the, the first portion of this game was moving the ball better than they were scoring the ball. And then that kicker pounded key kicks late after a couple of misses and some, some issues early. So it was a good, good response from the Wildcats to hang in there even after it wasn't like they were getting the good breaks.

[Bud Elliott]

I would also probably argue that since he kind of lost this thing in the first half because they, they had some opportunities in the past game and Sorsby was 7 of 13 for 38 yards with two picks in the first half of this one. Like if they hit those Arizona's got to play from behind more. But they obviously didn't hit him and like that. You can't throw 13 passes for 38 yards and, and two of them be picks and, and think they like that didn't screw you.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, you don't, you don't often see A team score 13 points on five red zone trips and end up winning the game. Yeah, but that's what Arizona did today.

[Bud Elliott]

Hell, if Arkansas did that they would.

[Tom Fornelli]

Have, they would have won too.

[Chip Patterson]

Fernando Mendoza throws four touchdowns, becomes the first player in Indiana history with 30 touchdowns. Which brings us back to the idea that as Fernando Mendoza reaches the the final stretch of his Indiana campaign, our Heisman Trophy contenders are going to be woefully short of the passing touchdown totals that we are used to seeing.

[Bud Elliott]

He, he's, he's odds on to win.

[Chip Patterson]

That seems wild.

[Tom Fornelli]

I will say though when it comes to like quarterback stats, that's the rule changes.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

You can't really compare it like with what Joe Burrow was playing in, in those like up tempo offense eras to, with what these teams are able to do now.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, Joe Burrow is 65. That's bananas. Yeah, but I'm saying even if you.

[Tom Fornelli]

Go back to like the RG three seasons or the Johnny Manziel seasons, like those numbers, you're not going to see them anymore.

[Chip Patterson]

I, I MANZEL at like 43 or 44. I think Jamis was like 47. You know, I think you could, you could see some low 40s. But yeah, it was maybe by the.

[Tom Fornelli]

End of the playoff you won't see it by the time the Heisman comes around.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's true.

[Bud Elliott]

Especially not if you go to more conference games.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

And now Everybody's got to play. You know, you're all playing a P4 non conference game too. Yeah. It's just the rules are, schedule is. Yep.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like everybody keeps saying it's a weak race. It's like. No, they're still. If you compare them to the average, they're still well above the average performer.

[Chip Patterson]

If you compare them to the average performer this year.

[Tom Fornelli]

This year. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like if you found like an OPS plus kind of stat for college football. War. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay. Why is OPS plus?

[Tom Fornelli]

Because that is literally a stat that's based on the average.

[Chip Patterson]

But it doesn't include defense.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, but I'm saying it's. No, not the actual stat, Chip.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay, but Pete, Crowe, Armstrong. No, it's so funny because it feels super insignificant the way the, the, the day had gone, but because it was the noon slate, because it was one of the first games out there, I kind of like built up this whole idea about Indiana's offense being a rhythm offense. Like they're not necessarily a tempo offense. But it does feel like the kind. Whether it's Mendoza or whether it's the play calling, it really does feel like the kind of offense that. And I don't even know what we could do with this information, but I wanted to bounce it off you guys because I, I trust your eyes and your analysis here. It just feels like, yeah, they will spin their wheels for a little bit, but when they do start getting on schedule, when they do start getting the defense off balance, it can become a little bit of a snowball. And I don't know if you all see that too, but that is something that I, you know, makes me take note in a way that probably is a good thing where when they played Ohio State last year or when they played Notre Dame last year, when it didn't go well to begin with, they're like, oh gosh, we're screwed. You know. But this time, even when things aren't going well early, they stick with it. And it's almost like there's a confidence that they know that once they start, it'll just start piling on.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I would say, really, I mean, a. Wisconsin's defense is. Did a really good job of taking away the run in this game. And then they did not have Elijah.

[Chip Patterson]

Surat Becker stepped up. Second game in a row. That dude has made some big catches.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, but I think in the first half they were just. They had to figure some things out. And then they figured it out. But even so, like Fernando in the first half of the game was 11 of 13 for 139 yards with a touchdown. It's not like he was struggling. And then he finished the game 22 at 24. Like, he didn't. He didn't throw an incomplete pass in the second half. So it's. It's like, yeah, he played better in the second half, but he also played pretty damn good in the first. They just didn't score points.

[Chip Patterson]

Are you all excited to hear Dabo Sweeney talk about his 8 and 5 team as the gutsiest team in America.

[Tom Fornelli]

After they've never been prouder of a team he's coached? I'm sure that'll be this. That'll be what we hear.

[Chip Patterson]

They're going to win every game left on their schedule.

[Bud Elliott]

Like, the subtext of what they lose off this team in the background of that kind of speech is wild. You know, like, this is. This feels like kind of a last run for them to go 8 and 5.

[Chip Patterson]

Is.

[Bud Elliott]

Is rough.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is Kate Clubnik thrown a pass this year in which he wasn't fading backwards?

[Chip Patterson]

I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

And I swear to God. And I tweeted something to this effect on Friday night. Watching this game. I don't even think that's him. I feel like the offense is designed for him to be fading backwards as he throws. I don't know what they're doing.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, the fumbling at the goal line, the play calling, Clemson even winning this game in spite of itself as a criticism of the Louisville Cardinals? The penalties for the Louisville Cardinals were horrendous. And when Miller Moss said, it's a culture issue that needs to be addressed. Yikes. Your starting quarterback said what? To reporters after the game.

[Tom Fornelli]

I. You know what? I can't speak to the culture issue. I would just say that if I'm playing like Miller Moss, I probably wouldn't say a word criticizing anybody else right now. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay. Congratulations to Oregon. They took care of business. I loved PJ Flex conversation about Oregon after the game. Another coach who came to the microphone and said, we just got our ass kicked. He was given even more credit, though, to the game planning, to the play calling. They had Kenyon Sadiq back. He led the teams in targets, led the team in receptions, led the team in receiving yards, caught a touchdown in this game. But PJ Flag talked a lot about how Oregon just did a really good job of getting Minnesota's defense in space and just setting up the plays. And yeah, they've got bigger fast. They've got. They've got more athletic players than Minnesota does. And so they kept getting him on.

[Tom Fornelli]

Linebackers and good luck.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

If you're a Minnesota linebacker, good luck.

[Chip Patterson]

And you know what I was thinking? Or if you're like a backup USC safety, you know, if USC's defense is falling apart. You want to talk about another chaos scenario that we can just strike from the record.

[Bud Elliott]

See staying up in that region of the country. Shouts to like a very banged up Washington for getting off the mat after losing to Wisconsin and drubbing. I mean 49, 13.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Wrong place, wrong time for.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh yeah. I'm so sorry. This. You know what else? This happened also to Oregon when Oregon played Rutgers. I'm so. Listen, Purdue, I'm so sorry that this had to be you, but whoever showed up in Husky Stadium was going to get absolutely pummeled today.

[Tom Fornelli]

And I mean they're much better at home to begin with, but this was a different level. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

I did not get. Let's see. I did not get much. I did not get much of Ohio State, ucla. I'm sorry.

[Bud Elliott]

Once I saw Nico was out.

[Tom Fornelli]

Exactly.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm not watching this game. Another game I really didn't watch. But like they, they handled business. Missouri like.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I thought so. Thought that was good.

[Bud Elliott]

That that is to be State run defense.326 for Missouri on the ground. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Kiwan Lacey and Ahmad Hardy both go for over 200 today.

[Bud Elliott]

Over 325 for 300.

[Tom Fornelli]

Chip Hardy's gonna get Heisman votes based on three games this year.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, what you do with your third place votes kind of. You know, it's called the Heisman Trophy winner. You know, if you just want to throw a third place vote. Somebody who captures your heart by being. It's. It's just outstanding. Tom, who stands out to you? That stands out to you? Yeah, sure.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean they.

[Bud Elliott]

Mississippi State has allowed 1550 rushing yards in seven SEC games.

[Tom Fornelli]

I going back to go ahead. I'm sorry. We talked about Ohio State and none of us watched. If you're an Ohio State fan, today was like a very nice day in the Midwest. It is the last warm day you are going to have until late March at the absolute earliest. Did you just like not watch Ohio State today? Like did you enjoy your day or did you stay at home so you could watch them play a Nicolas UCLA and win in a like boring ass fashion?

[Bud Elliott]

You might have like did the whole pump. There's no more pocket patch right now. But like the Christmas tree pickens. Like kids take your time. Look at all of them. And you're watching on the phone.

[Tom Fornelli]

You know, I would have been outside. I would have been golfing. I would have been doing. I'd have been like, you know, we're gonna win by 40. I don't really need to watch.

[Chip Patterson]

No. Let's see. We had no C.J. donaldson. Right? We had.

[Tom Fornelli]

That's what I'm saying. They took the day off.

[Bud Elliott]

Do you guys have this BYU game?

[Tom Fornelli]

I do, yes.

[Bud Elliott]

Back Byer just faded back. Club Nick, 25 or 30 yards before throwing. Watch this. So they're starting at the 18, and he throws this ball from, like, the 45.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. It's just sound fundamental. It's incomplete.

[Bud Elliott]

But I just. I looked up. I was like, yeah, Well, I mean.

[Chip Patterson]

When you got number 47, you can cover the whole field. No one's gonna box you in. All right, all right. Anything else before we hit a break and do tomorrow's top 25?

[Bud Elliott]

I think that's pretty much it.

[Chip Patterson]

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[Tom Fornelli]

Back.

[Chip Patterson]

Here on the COVID 3 podcast. And every single Saturday night we take some time to look at what the new college football rankings are going to look like. After the day's results, of course. When you have Georgia handing the Texas Longhorns that kind of loss, that's going to lead to some movement, some shakeup. As will Alabama's loss to Oklahoma. A few other results that are going to drive that conversation. But I want to ask my friends here what they think an AP voter not should, but will do with the three loss Texas Longhorns.

[Tom Fornelli]

They might consider taking them out of the top 20.

[Bud Elliott]

They did lose by 25.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Huh.

[Tom Fornelli]

They'll probably be 13th.

[Chip Patterson]

Ding ding ding ding ding ding.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I don't think they're gonna drop far at all below Vandy.

[Chip Patterson]

They've got wins against Oklahoma and Vanderbilt and Oklahoma stock is up and Vanderbilt didn't play.

[Tom Fornelli]

They've got a loss three and seven Florida and they lost by 25 to Georgia.

[Bud Elliott]

A pretty convicted Florida.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh yeah, they'll probably be 13.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, it is going to be stunning to see a three loss team as high as Texas will be. I fear not should but will. That's my prediction.

[Tom Fornelli]

Still the number one team from the preseason in their heart.

[Chip Patterson]

But think about it. It's just the we can't punish him. That George is so good, right?

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, yeah, I. I guess I.

[Chip Patterson]

Know I'm not happy about it either.

[Bud Elliott]

The problem is like Chip is so good at this that it makes it frustrating. You know what I mean? Like, like he's, he's.

[Tom Fornelli]

Where did you have him?

[Chip Patterson]

What?

[Tom Fornelli]

Where do you have Texas?

[Chip Patterson]

Like 12, 13.

[Bud Elliott]

He said ding, ding, ding. I figured, yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, so okay, okay, okay.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, no, I'm using Vanderbilt as the anchor and because the drop off after that Georgia Tech played like crap. Utah, you got some, some good arguments. Miami, no one's going to jump towards. And the voting points drops that you get to when you get into 13, 14, 15 are gaps. They are tears. And I just don't think Texas will be knocked out of. They'll be put at the bottom of a tier, but they'll still be in a tier above that middle group. Oklahoma's rise is a little bit trickier to navigate. I am projecting that they will be behind Texas Tech and Oregon in Ole.

[Bud Elliott]

Miss and Notre Dame.

[Chip Patterson]

I think they get ahead of Notre Dame.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I think they should.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. So I've got Oklahoma, Alabama, Notre Dame kind of in that 8, 9, 10 range. It's the way that I'm projecting it already. Notre Dame fans have found me. It's live on the site right now. And the idea that Notre Dame would drop from 9 to 10, not that you just get passed or reshuffled, but you know what they're calling it because you know, belt to ass is like the hot thing these days. They're calling it belt to Ash.

[Bud Elliott]

I like that.

[Chip Patterson]

I like it. If Chris Ash was more on the front foot in terms of being leading a dominant defense, it would have worked. Problem was Ash at the beginning of the season against Texas A and M just meant your defense got cooked. But you know, it'd be like that sometimes if you look a little bit further down in the rankings, things that will mostly stay static, as we mentioned, Utah, Miami having wins, very much impressive. But as expected, USC holds on, Michigan holds on Virginia, very impressive as well. I do think that it will be fascinating but very lit. It will be more interesting than it will be impactful. I am looking forward to seeing who AP voters gravitate towards for the bottom spots on their ballot. There are not a lot of great options and what I mean by not a lot of great options doesn't mean that there are not good teams there. There's just not a lot of teams that clearly separate themselves from other options. So I think it will be very much a flavor of the day. Do you want for example here, Bud? I think there's A good Illinois argument. I think there's Washington argument. I think that there are a lot of three loss power conference teams. Not a lot, excuse me, a couple of three loss power conference teams that did not even receive votes in last week's balloting that have very strong arguments to get into the top 25 this week given what we have seen in the back half of the rankings. What we have seen of course being number 19, number 22, number 23 and number 25 all losing. However, my projection is that they're just going to grab a whole bunch of them teams from the American that all got votes last week and pull them on up. That means come on down. Tulane, which hey got double digit win against FAU. Sure you were 26th last week. Makes sense to think you might be appearing in the rankings. The Missouri Tigers you mentioned, little hat tip for the winning is Mississippi State. They were just behind Tulane last week. North Texas threw 53 points on the board. They again were a team that got some votes last week. And then the Navy Midshipman, they just beat South Florida, bouncing them from the AP top 25. Now again I, I don't think any of those will have a super strong coalition. So look at Washington, look at Illinois, look at some of those other three loss power conference teams. I think that even though they haven't gotten attention from the voters recently, they've got resumes worth consideration. But Tom, though you have alleged otherwise. I am not trying to influence the rank.

[Tom Fornelli]

There you are, there you are.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean Arizona 7 and 3. Another, another option where it's like you got to give it a look.

[Tom Fornelli]

I am, I am not going to stump for Illinois. Okay. What I am going to stump for is if you're going to put a three loss power four team in there, how is Missouri the team you're putting in?

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, fair.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

What is Missouri's best win?

[Chip Patterson]

No, it is a quality loss resume.

[Tom Fornelli]

I will, I will read new Missouri's wins right now. Central Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, South Carolina, UMass, Auburn and Mississippi State. There are a thousand other three loss teams. No, no exaggeration. A thousand that have a better resume than Missouri.

[Bud Elliott]

Chip, I did have a question in the teens though. Any chance like Utah, Miami, jump, Georgia Tech maybe like resume wise, it's a loss column difference. But if we're willing to sustain Texas with three losses like that looks super suspect.

[Chip Patterson]

Georgia Tech voting points wise was in a little bit of a no man's land where they were well behind Vanderbilt, but ahead of Utah and Miami. So it would take a Lot of voters looking to ding Georgia Tech to make that happen. You're not wrong to look at the teams in order and think that based on performance, some shifting is appropriate. I just don't think that usually if I see a gap of 10 points, 20 points, 30, 40 points, then yeah, okay, we could, we could see this shifting around, but it's, it's fairly significant looking at it. But yeah, 100% definitely in the cards as something that could, that could be there. This is AP top 25 poll, not the College Football Playoff rankings. That's a whole other rankings VOD that gets broken out.

[Bud Elliott]

BYU, your guy number 11. Yeah, yeah, 11.

[Chip Patterson]

All right. And of course, you can always check out tomorrow's top 25 today over on CBS sports dot com. Are there anything else?

[Tom Fornelli]

Illinois's win over Maryland's meaningless to you. Patterson more impressed by Mizzou beat Mississippi State.

[Chip Patterson]

Are you done? I gave. If you really wanted to talk about the game, there were about. I don't know, let's count them up four times of anything else. Anywhere else we want to go, boys?

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, no, because I know you'll just cut me off and start spreading your Mizzou agenda all over the place.

[Bud Elliott]

Rackham.

[Chip Patterson]

No, the problem when I fill up my CBS Sports 136 ballot will be that I'm not going to put them ahead of Washington.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, Yeah. I would argue Washington deserves to be ranked out of Illinois, although Illinois has a better win than Washington. That's just fun with resumes. That's just fun because beating USC is more impressive than Washington beating Illinois.

[Chip Patterson]

Or second half team all year. We really have been that way. Lincoln's in the pouring rain talking about the toughness Big Ten wins. All right, Any emergency pods tomorrow predictions?

[Bud Elliott]

Maybe.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe Shane. Maybe locks.

[Chip Patterson]

He did the, the Bruce Feldman report was he needed to get bowl eligible and this was a. Last week was a bad one for that.

[Tom Fornelli]

I would take Bruce's word over mine in this department every single day. But I will say from what I was hearing recently, I don't, I don't think they're gonna fire, but I don't know. I think they're. I think the plan, from what I was told, is they'd rather use that money to keep the guys that they have on the roster for next year.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. I mean, if Malik's gonna stay, if the, like, all the defensive players that are all younger are gonna stay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yep.

[Chip Patterson]

If anybody, if anybody is listening, I, I listen. I know a lot of athletic directors love to cover Three podcasts. Clearly, as you're listening to this on Sunday morning on your walk, walking your dog. Just wait till like 2pm all right?

[Tom Fornelli]

Be great.

[Chip Patterson]

I really appreciate that. Eastern time, that'd be advantageous.

[Tom Fornelli]

Maybe float out a report that you're going to make a decision sometime this weekend.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, it could have.

[Tom Fornelli]

At least it could happen tomorrow. We don't know.

[Chip Patterson]

Happen. I don't know. If he says yes, we're gonna move on. I swear this time.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't know who needs to hear this, but we might hire this guy in the next day. I don't know who needs to hear this.

[Chip Patterson]

I know that we said last Monday this was our best and final offer and that we were ready to move on to other candidates, but now we're real serious. If you don't tell us at some point by an undetermined deadline, we're moving.

[Tom Fornelli]

On, it's definitely the school that's leaking that out there.

[Chip Patterson]

Best and final offer. This is it. You gotta. You gotta say yes now. We definitely won't just come right back.

[Bud Elliott]

God.

[Chip Patterson]

Fun stuff.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

All right. We will be back Monday, 11am Eastern Time. For upon further review, one last chance to look back at everything that was. But maybe get a little play by play from. From dk. What the. What the evening was like at Chateau Canal with. With the stars. Stars in full force for the watch party.

[Tom Fornelli]

You know, never been invited to Danny's for a watch party.

[Chip Patterson]

You can change that. I'll just give you his address. You can just show up.

[Tom Fornelli]

I have his address. No, when I was in mates, when I was down there, he was in Madison. So it had been odd if I just showed up at his house.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, Courtney. How's it going? You guys do it?

[Bud Elliott]

Daddy said I could crash.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm here to fix the AC. Oh, man. See, I come and hang out YouTube.com cover3 and of course, subscribe and smash the notification. I know we always talk about smash that. Subscribe, smash that. Like, but if you subscribe and you hit the bell to turn on the notifications, then what happens is, as we are in emergency pod season, you get a notification so that you not just see those sirens in your feed, you are seeing those sirens right there on your phone. And you can be there too. So you can come and hang out for all the fun that the coaching carousel will provide. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Fenelli. You can follow him@bud elliot3. You can follow me at Chip Underscore Patterson. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Two hundred and Fifty years ago, the United States Postal Service made a promise to bind the nation, connecting families, friends and businesses near and far. And during the holidays, that promise is more important than ever because it's about more than just gifts and cards. It's the peace of mind knowing your love will arrive reliably and affordably. That's why they're building a better network to meet your needs this season, working around the clock to ensure timely deliveries, offering easy and affordable ways to ship, and providing everything you need to make your season full of holiday cheer. From stamps to packages, this holiday season, trust the United States Postal Service to carry your most precious deliveries. Visit USPS.comholidays to find tools and tips to help you ship with confidence. The United States Postal service delivering since 1775.