Week 3 Instant Reaction: Georgia Defeats Tennessee, Texas A&M & LSU Win, Georgia Tech Upsets Clemson

Summary

Cover 3 College Football Podcast

Episode: Week 3 Instant Reaction - Georgia Defeats Tennessee, Texas A&M & LSU Win, Georgia Tech Upsets Clemson

Date: September 14, 2025
Hosts: Chip Patterson, Tom Fornelli, Bud Elliott

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Overview

This fast-paced, banter-filled episode of the Cover 3 Podcast delivers instant reactions and sharp analysis on a blockbuster Week 3 of the college football season. The crew dives deep into seismic SEC and ACC results: Georgia’s dramatic comeback win in Knoxville, Texas A&M’s shootout victory at Notre Dame, Georgia Tech’s upset of Clemson to (in their words) officially bury the Tiger dynasty, and more. The discussion spans playoff implications, coaching hot seats, and the shifting power balance in college football.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Texas A&M 41, Notre Dame 40 — Aggies Escape South Bend

• A&M’s win: An up-tempo, edge-of-your-seat shootout. Aggies QB Marcel Reed completed just 17 of 37, but for a whopping 360 yards (21.2 yards per completion), torching a regressing Irish secondary (08:07–10:01).
• Notre Dame’s defensive drop-off: Multiple hosts blame the switch from Al Golden to Chris Ash and loss of key players for the unit’s regression, noting that the Irish can’t generate tackles for loss or cover on the back end (07:26–08:07, 11:30–12:44).
  • Bud Elliott: “Defense can’t get stops. Gave up 488 yards, 7 yards a play. I have a hard time blaming the offense for this one” (11:31).
• Playoff outlook: Despite the crushing loss, hosts agree the Irish could theoretically still be in the playoff hunt if they win out, but acknowledge “the chances are very, very low” (13:10–14:48).
• A&M’s schedule and SEC position: The Aggies suddenly appear able to make real noise in the SEC West, with hosts speculating about potential tiebreaker chaos (15:06–16:16).

2. Georgia 38, Tennessee 35 — Dawgs Survive in Knoxville

• Tennessee’s fast start, Georgia’s resilience: Tennessee WR Chris Brazil dominated early (“six catches for 177 yards and three TDs”), but Georgia steadily adjusted. Georgia’s upgraded WR room (via transfers Branch, Colby Young) was decisive (18:10–21:19).
• Critical moments:
  • Tom Fornelli: “The drive that really killed Tennessee… they got the ball at Georgia’s 34, false start, three straight runs, field goal. Didn't go for the kill shot.” (22:46–23:32)
• QB comparison: While Tennessee QB Joey Aguilar delivered “the classic moon balls,” he’s still a marked improvement over last year (24:23–25:24).
• Playoff/SEC East outlook: None of the hosts “are out” on Tennessee as an SEC/playoff contender; Georgia earns praise for adjusting and showing championship mettle (23:32–27:12).

3. Georgia Tech 27, Clemson 24 — The End of the Clemson Dynasty?

• Dynasty over? Hosts declare “the Clemson dynasty is done!” after Georgia Tech upsets Tigers to hand them an eighth loss to unranked teams in four years (04:35, 46:10–50:40).
• Clemson’s malaise: Observations include regression on defense, low offensive efficiency with Cade Klubnik, and waning urgency/belief.
  • Chip Patterson: “You stop being Clemson, the kings of the ACC, when you lose games you are supposed to win... Congratulations, you’re entering your Texas A&M phase, Clemson.” (49:09)
  • Bud Elliott: “They are a good team. They are not great. We have to reevaluate the way we look at the Clemson Tigers.” (50:09)
• Georgia Tech’s road ahead: Very manageable (“They could go 10-2 easily. Getting to Charlotte [ACCCG] 100% in the cards.”) (58:02–59:13)

4. SEC Check-In: Alabama, LSU, Texas, and More

• Alabama’s bounce back: After demolishing Wisconsin, Bama “looked great” thanks to improved QB play (Ty Simpson), receiver depth (Ryan Williams, Jeremy Bernard), but with lingering run game worries (33:54–34:51).
• LSU grinds past Florida: Five Gator INTs buoyed LSU; Bud Elliott: “It's hard to lose when you get five interceptions.” Both teams praised for defensive effort but criticized offensively. (68:09–69:45)
• Texas underwhelms vs. UTEP: Arch Manning gets booed after a brutal performance (44% comp., 11/25, 114yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 9 straight incompletions). Fan patience with Steve Sarkisian’s offense wearing thin. (63:15–66:46)
• Comparing LSU and Texas: Panel sides with LSU because of better QB play (Nussmeier over Arch), despite Texas’s “elite defense.” (67:29–67:56)

5. Coaching Hot Seat Discussion

• Wisconsin (Luke Fickell): Soundly beaten at Alabama; Fickell is now 8-13 in Power 4 games. “If things spiral, I don’t know that Fickell is as safe as I thought...” (39:24–44:44)
• Virginia Tech (Brent Pry): Destroyed by Old Dominion; morale and effort questioned (“they’ve quit on Brent Pry” – 82:49). VT’s investment and future as a top ACC job questioned (83:29–84:12).
• UCLA (Deshaun Foster): Calls for action after disastrous start (107:14–108:18).

6. Other Notables

• Miami handles USF: The crew agrees Mario Cristobal has built the best line-of-scrimmage team in CFB. “Probably the best O-line/D-line combined in the country.” (75:58–77:58)
• West Virginia wins Backyard Brawl: Emotional home OT win over Pitt, but “doesn’t mean a damn thing” for the bigger picture. (80:42–82:23)
• AP Poll projections: Vandy and Georgia Tech projected in, Clemson and South Carolina out. Notre Dame (0–2) might stick at back end due to résumé, sparking debate. (93:44–103:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Clemson’s fall:
  • “Congratulations, you’re entering your Texas A&M phase, Clemson. Congratulations, you’re entering a Miami phase, Clemson… now you’re one of those blue-chip teams that loses a couple games a year.” – Chip Patterson (49:09)
  • “They are a good team. They are not great. They are not elite.” – Bud Elliott (50:09)
• On the Georgia-Tennessee thriller:
  • “Tennessee has scored on five straight opening drives vs. Georgia, and Georgia has won all five.” – Tom Fornelli (18:58)
  • “I think Tennessee handled itself well in this rivalry game and gave itself a shot… The margins were so slim.” – Chip Patterson (23:54)
• Notre Dame’s woes:
  • “Defense can’t get stops… I have a hard time blaming the offense for this one. It’s the defense.” – Bud Elliott (11:31)
• On Texas fans booing Arch Manning:
  • “The Texas fans I saw on Twitter… they’re like, there’s no way in hell we’re going to waste this defense.” – Tom Fornelli (63:17)
• On Miami’s transformation:
  • “Miami’s the best line-of-scrimmage team in the country, I think.” – Tom Fornelli (76:49)
• On Virginia Tech:
  • “They’ve quit on Brent Pry.” – Tom Fornelli (82:55)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• A&M–Notre Dame reaction: 07:26–16:16
• Georgia–Tennessee breakdown: 17:55–28:13
• Clemson’s “dynasty is over”: 46:10–54:03 (with further reflection 54:34–56:48)
• Miami’s emergence: 75:29–77:59
• Texas & Arch Manning troubleshooting: 63:11–67:02
• LSU-Florida/SEC race: 67:29–72:36
• Wisconsin/Luke Fickell outlook: 39:24–44:44
• Virginia Tech & coaching carousel: 82:45–84:12
• AP Top 25 projection talk: 93:44–103:20

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Final Thoughts

The Cover 3 team underscores a weekend full of shifting narratives: Georgia’s clutch gene, Texas A&M’s surging hope, the potential twilight of Clemson’s run, and big questions for established powers. Multiple races remain wide open, with playoff and coaching storylines intensifying. The episode closes with AP poll projections and a recognition that, for all the volatility, college football is delivering for fans in spades.

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For further discussion, check out the full episode or visit CBSSports.com for updated AP Poll projections and detailed analysis by the Cover 3 crew.

Transcript

[Chip Patterson]

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[Bud Elliott]

Right now, do I look at you or the camera?

[Chip Patterson]

He'll just look right at me. He'll just ignore the camera. There are a lot of people saying you could be the next great quarterback. I can already see it now.

[Tom Fornelli]

Him running down the tunnel with the.

[Bud Elliott]

Crowd, chanting his name. I hear you've been invited to train with legend Isaiah White himself.

[Chip Patterson]

Care to elaborate?

[Bud Elliott]

I want to be the goat.

[Chip Patterson]

Cameron King.

[Bud Elliott]

Great meeting you.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm a fan.

[Bud Elliott]

That's crazy. I damn near worshiped you growing up.

[Chip Patterson]

Who are you? I'm him. Who are you?

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm him.

[Chip Patterson]

Let's play a little catch. We going to the lake.

[Bud Elliott]

You want to play at your highest level?

[Tom Fornelli]

You want to be a legend?

[Bud Elliott]

Cause let me tell you something. The game. Who are they?

[Chip Patterson]

Just going to toss the ball around a little.

[Tom Fornelli]

You want to hit this?

[Bud Elliott]

You can't handle it. I understand.

[Chip Patterson]

Shut up.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, too slow. Wait, what are we doing? That man smile about to be on the floor.

[Chip Patterson]

This how you do, teammate?

[Bud Elliott]

What is this?

[Chip Patterson]

Enemies.

[Tom Fornelli]

In this game, violence is rewarded.

[Chip Patterson]

So learn to enjoy it.

[Bud Elliott]

Get your together.

[Chip Patterson]

Activate my cam. Are you okay?

[Bud Elliott]

I think something's off. You want to know what you're getting yourself into.

[Chip Patterson]

Now? We playing some football.

[Bud Elliott]

Don't have to do this.

[Chip Patterson]

Activate my.

[Bud Elliott]

I've never been more certain of anything in my life. And how bad does Cameron Cade want it? I ain't a killer, but don't push me. I'm not just gonna give it to you. You got to take it. For me, I'm a killer, but don't push me.

[Tom Fornelli]

What if I say no?

[Bud Elliott]

Think of it as a gift from the gods.

[Chip Patterson]

So what are you willing to sacri.

[Bud Elliott]

Welcome Back to the COVID 3 podcast. With your hosts, Chip Patterson, Tom Fernelli, Danny Cannell, and Bud Elliott. It's your call for the best college football coverage from national signing day to.

[Tom Fornelli]

The national championship and everything in between.

[Bud Elliott]

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[Chip Patterson]

And welcome back to the COVID 3 Podcast. Here on CBS. Did he catch it? Oh.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh.

[Chip Patterson]

Make your extra points. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Extra Point Awareness Week here on the. Holy cow. Your rundown to the curb. We got a situation going on right now in South Bend. Holy cow. Okay, lost again to. That's Tom Fordelli. That's Bud Elliott. I'm Chip Patterson. Props to Bud for saying let's just go. So I will say this. Let it be read into the record that Bud Elliott was like, hey, it might be fun if we're just live on the air as this one ends. Good gravy. Okay.

[Bud Elliott]

Extra point.

[Chip Patterson]

Good God. Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Wow.

[Chip Patterson]

Problems in the tomorrow's top 25 today. Please help. We are live on. Okay, y' all figured that out. Okay, thank you, Jack Crosby. Lots to get to. We've got a we. We've got a Clemson dynasty that is done. I'm gonna go out and declare it. You know, we should. Should have listened to Tom Fornelli and Bud Elliott and everybody else that was like, hey, guys, they. They've lost eight games in the last two years. They're losing to unranked opponents left and right. Maybe it's, maybe, maybe it's not just going to be the. The dreams of 2016. We've got just an absolute banger in Knoxville. Our apologies to all the Tennessee fans out there, of which there are many. Hello, Jordan. That was a heartbreaker. You've been losing every single game to the Georgia Bulldogs, going all the way back to 2016. Then there are many ups and downs that are frustrating, but we're going to try to get into the football. Is Texas okay? I don't. I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

I got to stretch my shoulder out here.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, you got to work that shoulder up. West Virginia. Rich Rod, What a moment in Morgantown. Overtime game there. We might have a. An actual hot seat watch in Blacksburg. That is real. And so much more to pick apart as we are with you live. 11:37pm Eastern Time. As I'm looking at it, Texas A&M41. Notre Dame 40. The cameras zooming in on Tyler Buckner, the holder, the lacrosse player, the lacrosse player who. Who now has them in this precarious position where they might be set to lose at home.

[Bud Elliott]

Do you know who doesn't botch that hold? Steve Angelli. Shouldn't have let him go.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, Drew Pine. Does Drew Pine brought?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, probably. Probably, yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Guy.

[Bud Elliott]

He's got old arthritis hands at this point.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, man. I, I. All right, so we've got to start here. What have we seen? Let's just stay in the moment right here because I know the 11 seconds. If there's a miracle, we'll react to it. Why did Notre Dame get in this position? How much money would it take to go to Cincinnati and bring Al golden back? Because if Notre Dame has all of the money in the world, then they should go and get Al golden back. Because this defense has regressed in an extremely noticeable way.

[Bud Elliott]

Game over. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out. I. I know Al Golden's gone. Chris Ash is in. They lost some key guys. I still think that the drop off is jarring. It's like, even if you expected there to be some to see what we have seen now, especially in this game, I mean, I. I don't know. Like, the pass rush was a problem against Miami, but we also gave Miami's offensive line a lot of credit. But just the secondary, like, has been leaving guys open routinely and not making plays. And it's just. It's. I don't know. I mean, I. I have no clue.

[Tom Fornelli]

It almost makes me want to go back and dig through their schedule last year and. And I won't cover the mic. Sorry. Like, and think about, did they not face enough offenses that could really throw it last year? Like, did we overrate them? Like, but they made it to the national title game. Like, they. They gave Ohio State some issues in that title game, even when Chip Kelly was in his bag. That was legitimately a really good defense last year. You know, this year it's just. I think decent Mario Craver had an incredible night for A M. Obviously, Reed. I mean, I got to give Kid credit. He. He made the ones that he actually completed count. He was 17 of 37 for 360. That's a wild stat line.

[Chip Patterson]

You just gave some classic. Some classic bud. Both ways. You know, I'm watching it. The ones he completed was. Was the. The good.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

There.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, hey, if. If our new Marcel Reed is just. We're going to hit bombs and strikeouts. All right? We're just going to add them. Done this thing. Okay, cool. Like, maybe that can work. You can't deny it. The kid threw for 360. And, like, he did hit the guys in stride a couple times and they ran long distances. Like, he played hard. I think he made the most of it. And they go and get a win in South Bend. Like, that's a huge, huge win for A and M. And you got to give a lot of credit to Mike Elko for getting these guys ready to play. I thought, honestly, like, a And M's defense was not like that. Awful. You know, like, they seem to be a little bit better than I thought they would be. I know Notre Dame scored 40 on them, but, you know, it's off 429 total yards. Like, that's not insane. Six yards of play is not the worst effort you could possibly have, you know, going on the road against a pretty good Irish team. This was a, this is a fun game, man. Like, these teams are pretty close to each other. Both, they both look really good to me overall. But yeah, they both have some defensive comparison concerns, for sure.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Marcel Reed averaged 21.2 yards of completion.

[Tom Fornelli]

I wonder when the last time somebody averaged who was like, not an option quarterback. Over 20 per completion and under 10 per attempt.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, that's a unique combination right there. I, I cannot wait to go back and listen. You. You said congratulations to Mike Elko. Mike Elko, who I will say, and I wonder if Brian Kelly would offer a comment on this. Brian Kelly hiring Mike Elko was a change in his Notre Dame tenure. And so Mike Elko has had big, big moments in his own career, in his own rise in that stadium. And he just led Texas A and M in there to go and get this hard fought win. There were times where it looked like he was going to absolutely ring the neck of his players because of, you know, how back and forth and how loose this game got. Not, Not a very Mike Elko game. But to your point, bud, what have we said about Mike Elko since he became a head coach? That guy gets his team ready to go, you know, and Texas A and M fans are so frustrated with the defensive breakdowns and the Auburn game at the losses at the end of last year. I get it, I get it, I get it. But, man, they were keyed up. They were ready to go here. They made the plays when they needed to. What about the blame for Notre Dame.

[Bud Elliott]

The defense?

[Chip Patterson]

Just. Just.

[Bud Elliott]

Defense can't get stops. I mean, you gave up 488 yards. It's seven yards of play. I mean, you can argue the offense didn't do enough. You could argue that it could make plays, but that's a really hard argument to make. They scored 40 freaking points. And I know seven of them came on the blocked punt, but just, it's. Yeah, it's. I have a hard time blaming the offense for this one. It's the defense.

[Tom Fornelli]

Look at the explosives. All right, 86, 45, 16. That's not really explosive. 21, 24, 31, 18, 34. All through the Air. Were they so concerned about Reed's legs that like, that dictated their coverage plan? I, I'd be interested to go back and kind of, you know, watch the All 22 and take a look at that. That this was not great by Notre Dame, that their D line is not what it was last year. Clearly. Right. Some of the young guys on the edge are not getting a ton of pressure and it blocked them fairly well. That is a really good A M offensive line. I do project a lot of improvement for Notre Dame just by not playing Miami and A M opposing offensive lines. But yeah, like, they're not covering quite as well. I do wonder if they were too worried about Reed's legs.

[Bud Elliott]

Let's see.

[Tom Fornelli]

Notre Dame has a legit worry. The guy's a good runner.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

As a team, they had two tackles for loss against Miami and they had two tackles for loss tonight against A M. It's hard to get off the field when you're not, you know, putting people behind the chains.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean. All right, so here we go. Are they done? Season's over. Like, don't even watch anymore. Like, forget. Like, I just can't, you know, like, don't.

[Bud Elliott]

If, if they win out, if they win out, you can't convince me they won't have a legitimate chance. It's just the chances of them winning out based on the way they've been playing through two games is very, very low.

[Tom Fornelli]

I, I think if we're talking like, are they done for the playoff? I think you have to say no, they're not done. And I'm reversing my, my course from earlier this week when I, I think their chances are greatly reduced with this home loss. But like, will they get, will they put them in if they win 10 in a row? If USC has a nice, you know, nice ranking next to their name there. I also think the acc, I don't know if we have great chance of getting Notre Dame plus two ACC in now. Right. With, with Clemson losing there. I don't know if Tech carries enough weight in that. So like, maybe if it's, you know, Florida State, Miami plus Notre Dame, I think you could possibly see that depending on how things shake out in the other leagues. But in some ways Clemson losing may help the Irish, you know, get in. If the ACC is a one bit league.

[Chip Patterson]

Maybe. I, I think we don't have a Clemson, Notre Dame head to head this year.

[Tom Fornelli]

Right.

[Chip Patterson]

We don't have a Florida State head to head this year. So I don't think. And Miami already got the win I don't know if those. I don't know if the ACC's playoff hopes in Notre Dame are as intimately tied as they could be if we had had more crossover.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think that's fair. But I, I really have a hard time seeing Big ten plus SEC not get minimum seven. So like at some point the math doesn't. Math for, for two plus one it's possible, but I don't know. It's probable.

[Chip Patterson]

Yep. Well, I mean there's a lot of SEC teams that won even without being impressive. There were SEC teams that took losses as well. That, that might mix up that math just a little bit. Okay. Anything else on Texas A M Notre Dame before we continue to keep this thing rolling?

[Bud Elliott]

Well, very different game than last year.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is A M schedule like they. It's, it's, it's work. It's more workable now than it looked like. Take a look at it.

[Chip Patterson]

I still think it's an imperfect. So you're. You are right to propose schedule. I'm going to just focus on team. I just still see a team that is imperfect and maybe a tier different than a top tier in the sec.

[Tom Fornelli]

All right, so they'll be favored at home and I agree with you Chip. They'll be favored at home hosting Auburn. Right. In two weeks they get a buy favorite of Mississippi State. I think at this point you're going to say they're favorite over the Gators. They're favorite at Arkansas. Your dog in Death Valley? Are you a dog at Missouri? Missouri's look damn good. So probably like a slight or at least toss up your favorite over South Carolina. South Carolina does not look good through three games or four games. Now your favorite over Sanford and then you play a Texas team. And if Arch continues on this path, he may be like a submarine reliever for the Yankees by that point. I don't know. Like the arm just keeps dropping a little more each week like I so. And it may have something cooking here, guys.

[Bud Elliott]

Fine by me if they do. I drafted them.

[Tom Fornelli]

You did?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. That. I'll get to the tiebreaker scenarios when the geo sites website pops up. Dot, wave, flash to be able to figure out what all the tiebreakers are because that's where we're headed. Honestly, like if I'm to just call my shot right here on September 13, we are going to have some brain breaking tiebreaker scenarios come mid November. So I don't think I'm quite ready to be able to project the SEC championship race because the top teams all have flaws and there's teams like Texas A M that I'm like, well, hey, look at the schedule. Look at the team. I could see them going 7 and 1. Sure. I mean, yeah, Texas A and M could definitely go 7 and 1 in conference play. 71 in conference play gives you at least a. A seat at the table. We'll see if it gets you into the title game to Atlanta. Those things all yet to be determined at this point, but good work by Mike Elko. Great win on the road at Notre Dame. Okay, Speaking of the Southeastern Conference shoe, I, I real. I said it earlier, man, Tennessee fans had it. They were celebrating then, hey, hey, bud. Where did it go wrong? Like where. Where in your estimation did Tennessee lose hold of the rope on this game?

[Tom Fornelli]

Can I do the whole segment off my back foot like Joey Aguilar does.

[Chip Patterson]

And.

[Tom Fornelli]

Back foot analysis?

[Chip Patterson]

All right, if we're just ripping jokes right here, I was gonna call him Ziggy Stardust because he's just those moon balls, you know, like Ziggy Aguilar. You know, we keep, keep working on it. But yeah, this. But the start was so fast and it looked like we were gonna have one of those games somebody in, somebody in the. The CBS Sports slack. It might have been Brad Crawford, but somebody mentioned the Jalen Hyatt Alabama game. It looked like we had seen one Tennessee wide receiver who was just going to take this game over, and this time it was Chris Brazil. And we thought that was going to be it. But Georgia just hangs around, hangs around, hangs around. And even though that is six catches for 177 yards and three touchdowns, you end up letting this thing slip away. So I ask you again, bud, where, where, where did this really slip away in your eyes?

[Tom Fornelli]

I think you got to give credit to Georgia for staying in the fight throughout the entire thing. Tennessee has scored on what, five consecutive opening drives against Georgia, and Georgia has won all five of those games. So Kirby's very much within his rights. Say, guys, we've seen this before. And on the broadcast they literally talked about how we showed them a video pregame about how Tennessee usually scores on them early and they have to keep their heads in the game. They have to stay in the fight. I thought early on Tennessee did a nice job with their tackles and tight ends of taking advantage of something like the young Georgia edge players. And Tennessee was using play action pass really well. I think eventually Georgia was like, well, we don't need to honor some of his play action stuff quite so much because Tennessee's not actually running the football all that Effectively on us. Our, our backers are doing a decent job. I mean they ran for 125 but on 34 carries, like that's not that you're not gashing them with the run game there. And I think if you're like Georgia's coach stuff in the box, okay guys, he's hitting the wide open dudes. But they're also getting lucky as hell like on that, on, on the ball that brasball caught the 70 what, 70 something yarder. Like the guy's beat ball is terribly under thrown. He gets up the first one, the.

[Chip Patterson]

One he fell down.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, that's a bad throw. Like I know Tennessee fans on Twitter and they're right to point this out. Like Nico would have overthrown that by 10 yards. Granted, probably so but you know what, it's not like it was a good ball if the guy is in phase it's. It's clearly caught and the receiver did a great job to get open to come back to be interfered with and catch it. But it's not a good throw. So I think if your Jordan's coach stuff in the box you're like is this really going to keep happening? Like guys, some of this is good, some of this is luck box. Right. And we had to stay in the fight and they did it. I think on the flip side, we talked a lot about this offseason. Georgia upgrading their receiver room. Hello. 11 targets for 142 for branch and Colby Young. That'll get it done. They didn't have that last year. Last year it was like here's 11 targets for Arian Smith who's a gadget guy and you know Dylan Bell today. Like that's an appropriate number of targets for Dylan Bell. Like how about you know, four Cool on some schemed up stuff. Like that's, that's fine. He's not like a receiver. You want to be a go to guy that, that. I thought Georgia's additions in the portal and getting Colby Young back were a real difference in this game compared to what they had last year.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean when I've talked about USF the last couple weeks and how they've been winning games, the one thing I've said is that it's not sustainable. What does USF have in common with Tennessee? It's running the same offense. Tennessee start to this game was not sustainable. Like that's re they got off to an incredible start because when it's working that way or you're getting some luck bang. You're gonna sewer big the big plays, like there was a 72 yard touchdown to Brazel. But Tennessee had nine passing plays of 15 plus yards in this game. Six came in the first quarter, three the rest of the game. They weren't really able to run the ball all night. So Georgia was able to just not have to worry about the run anymore because once they realized they could stop it, it was like, okay, let's fix what the hell we're doing on the back end and maybe stop, fall down on these moon balls and stay in the damn play. And all of a sudden the big plays that were there kind of shriveled up and went away. And now Tennessee was having to rely on trying to move the ball down, you know, eight, nine, ten plays to get a touchdown and have to rely on handing the ball off. And while they improved running the ball as the game went along, they just weren't able to run the ball all that effectively, as Bud mentioned. And just Georgia was just hanging around, hanging around because Tennessee's defense not very good. I mean, we saw it against Syracuse. It's just once the big plays shrivel up and the defensive backs stop falling down or committing pass interference, it stopped. That was really all that happened.

[Tom Fornelli]

I thought the drive that really killed Tennessee here was after Stockton, after he fumbles, Tennessee falls on it. They got the ball at Georgia's 34. They immediately start false or they start the drive, false start. And then it's three straight run plays. And I was like, man, like now would be the time for the kill shot, I. I would think, right? And three straight runs, field goal. They let Georgia stay in it there. And I get it. I don't know that I would have played it totally different. This is very much, you know, Sunday morning quarterbacking. But that's the drive, I think, that allowed Georgia to stay in this ball game. And to the point in the chat, yeah, Tennessee was down both starting corners. Absolutely like that. If they have both those guys in there, it. Tennessee probably wins a game.

[Chip Patterson]

I am not out on Tennessee.

[Bud Elliott]

No, I'm not out.

[Tom Fornelli]

Out as far as what, like can win the sec or out is like. I was actually fairly impressed with how they hung around.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, no, I think that, I mean, I'm not gonna. I wouldn't pick them to win the sec. I think they're still very much in the hunt, and I think they're still very much in the hunt for a playoff spot. And you know, we make fun of Joey Aguilar moon balls because they, they.

[Chip Patterson]

Really are saying like, we, we got off a Lot of jokes early. And it's. Before we move on, I want to make it clear, I think that Tennessee handled itself well in this rivalry game and gave itself a shot where, you know, you, you leave it up to the kicker. The kicker doesn't make it. If, if the kicker makes it. If you have a conversion on a third down here. The margins of this game were so slim that I want to at least acknowledge that Tennessee played well enough to win this football game. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

And. And Joey Aguilar is clearly not a perfect player. He has plenty of faults. There's a reason he was available when he was and how he was, but he's also an upgrade on what they had at quarterback last year. I don't think there's really any doubt after seeing what he was able to do in this game. I mean, yeah, he had the turnovers, he got lucky on a couple of the touchdowns, but he also threw for 371 yards and kept this team in the game. So, like, he's not perfect, but he's better than what you had. And you were able to get to the playoff last year with what you had. But your defense obviously was a lot better last year than it is this year. You were leaning on that. But I do think Aguilar is somebody. That is his accuracy and his ability to stick with what he's supposed to be doing in the offense and actually, you know, read it is a big upgrade on what they had last year.

[Tom Fornelli]

He makes his layups.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Which is what Nico really, really struggled with. He couldn't make layups. He would hit a couple like 40 foot bombs from three, but he would.

[Tom Fornelli]

Miss all the layups we, we do probably need. If you're a Tennessee fan, you're like, hey, can we, can we hunt some layups a little bit more and not try to jack these threes from like six steps behind the three point line at times? Like there's a little bit of. Of YOLO ball that maybe Tennessee would like to have go away there probably. Do you think that Hypo should have punted from 4th and 2 from zone 49?

[Chip Patterson]

I haven't checked.

[Tom Fornelli]

I, I thought they had real momentum there and like, you know, step on the neck type type thing. But again, that's Sunday morning quarterback and it, you know, they played a lot of situations right earlier.

[Bud Elliott]

I also don't think Kirby should have kicked that field goal all up three. If he doesn't, then he gets the first down. You probably never worry about having to get to overtime.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't Disagree with that.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm. I'm sorry. Did you entertain the idea that Kirby wasn't good kick?

[Bud Elliott]

No, I'm just saying, like, that's like. I was joking in the group text. I says, hey, if Georgia scores here, do you think they go for two? Even though it's clear and obvious that they should. But because of some of the decisions Kirby makes, he might be like, no, we'll just stay up six.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

But he did play early in the game. Kirby went for one that I like. The announcers like, whoa, this is kind of a gamble, actually. I think punting is the gamble there. Guys like Kirby's doing the. The buy the book thing here. It's also like, there were times in. In which Gunner Stockton was having a little bit of. Of issues in this game. Like he. He was leaving clean pockets. I. I don't think he was seeing things all that clearly, which is not surprising for his first SEC road start. I know he started the playoff game obviously last year against the Irish, but, I mean, I think both these teams should feel pretty good about where they are coming out of this. Right? Like, I. I don't want to go negative. It's like, I was pretty impressed with both teams. These are good football teams.

[Chip Patterson]

Super fun game.

[Bud Elliott]

Banger of a game.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Thank you. Who said that? Did Chip say that first? Yeah. Banger of a game. Bangers only.

[Bud Elliott]

Hangers only on. On the COVID three podcast reaction podcast.

[Tom Fornelli]

Georgia does have to get the right side of the offensive line figured out.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Because some of those guys were getting beat. But also there was just communication issues up front a lot. Like especially in. In the low red zone. There were three. I think three times they just. Oh, laid the guy. Like, not physically. Just miscommunicated. Somebody just comes totally free. They're really lucky. Stockton held onto the ball on that one in which he gets free rocked. So good job by him to not fumble it there. If they get that figured out, that's. That's a really dangerous football team. Obviously. Breaking news. Georgia is talented and good.

[Chip Patterson]

Who's your favorite running back in that room?

[Bud Elliott]

Georgia's running back room. I like Frasier best.

[Tom Fornelli]

If he's holding on to the ball, I think it's Frazier.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

And he held on to the ball, so.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, he did.

[Bud Elliott]

And Gunner's second. But you mentioned.

[Tom Fornelli]

I thought they did a nice job with some of that QB run game stuff.

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Bud Elliott]

Yes, they did. You mentioned Branch earlier. I saw him run four different routes today, which is three more routes than I ever saw USC have him run.

[Chip Patterson]

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[Chip Patterson]

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[Tom Fornelli]

You know, does somebody get hurt?

[Chip Patterson]

No. Yeah. The head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers football team. Kind of a big loser coming out of this day.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, they're.

[Chip Patterson]

We'll get there.

[Tom Fornelli]

Expect. They're expected to get dump truck and they did. I don't expect Wisconsin to compete with Alabama. Like Wisconsin to me was one of the. Say this kindly Wisconsin is not playing as well as you would hope this program would play. They're also very much a product of having played in the Big Ten west for 20 years or however long that thing lasted. And I don't think that I just don't like athlete for athlete. They're not close to Alabama. I don't expect them to be. It's like that. That game went kind of how we thought it would go. I think they're a bottom third Big ten team. They weren't projected to make a bowl. Their win total in the preseason was what, five?

[Bud Elliott]

Five and a half? Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, to me, that was all like, is Bama going to show up against. Against a team with some athletes?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. I thought the game was more lopsided than the final score indicated it was.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay. I thought Alabama looked great.

[Bud Elliott]

Are we still. Is the sky still falling?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

Is it possible that Alabama just lost on the road to like a playoff team?

[Tom Fornelli]

It's also possible that. How many mobile quarterbacks is Bama gonna face this year? Because if you go back and break down some of their breakdowns last year, Castellano's fits this year. Right. Sellers last year ran on them pretty well. There were a couple more, obviously. You know, Diego got him in in Nashville. When that defense faces a pro style attack, they're. They're kind of fine.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, high Simpsons look great for the last two weeks. Much improved over the.

[Tom Fornelli]

Throwing them all on time.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. So, yeah. Who knows? You know, I mean, again, road environment, first start, really just a tough spot. He might have just really been. You know, he might have got off to a bad start and then just got completely lost and was just panicking the rest of that day. But Ulm fixed him today. He looked great against Wisconsin. He was 24, 29, 382, four touchdowns. I'm still worried that Alabama can't run.

[Tom Fornelli]

The ball, but it's a little weird.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Does.

[Tom Fornelli]

Does this travel to Georgia?

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, it's Georgia. Are there, are there safeties and corners going to fall down some more or. Because that'll travel if it does. Yeah, I, I think, I think you look at the receiving core, like, obviously Ryan Williams gets plenty of attention, but I think Jeremy Bernard.

[Chip Patterson]

Jeremy Bernard was awesome today.

[Bud Elliott]

Very good. It's just, it's like there, there's suddenly you feel like there's a lot more depth to this receiver core than getting credit for to start the season. Guys are kind of stepping up. Horton had a big game.

[Chip Patterson]

Just.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I, I think that this is a team where there was a lot of overreaction to that week one game. But when you look at the way the SEC has looked now through nearly, almost, you know, a month of football, they're still clearly one of the better teams in that league.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I think that Alabama can travel because we might have a situation and we talked about this a little bit. Right. The idea that, oh, the SEC might have a little bit of a bounce back and remember that year when we said SEC defenses are terrible and. No, none of the SEC defenses are good because they all had kind of taken a step forward. I think, buckle up. We might have a year on our hands where all of these games are going to end up being little shootoutie. Do you get that sense?

[Bud Elliott]

I could see it. I don't know if I'd see it in a lot of LSU games.

[Chip Patterson]

Or Texas.

[Bud Elliott]

Or Texas. Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Still kind of TBD on Auburn, I think.

[Chip Patterson]

What do you mean tbd? Hell no. Auburn will give it up.

[Tom Fornelli]

Well, yeah, yeah, defensively, I, I would agree with you. I just, just. We really haven't seen Arnold throw the football yet.

[Chip Patterson]

Doesn't matter. They'll figure it out. They got, they got too much talent. Like all Auburn is like, oh, 4441 is going to be the game we're in. Like, they, they've got the personnel, they're ready to go. Alabama, they're ready to go. Like there's, There is a. There is. There are no less than five teams in the SEC that if you tell them that that's what it's going to take. It's going to be a Big 12 game. Well, congratulations. You invited in Texas and Oklahoma. You caught Big 12. You know, I. Hey, I texted. I Texted our friend Joe Gilio during Thursday's state weight game. I said, I was like, they. I know they only invited Cal and Stanford, but this is a PAC12 game if I've ever seen one. They caught the PAC12, you know, so this is what happens. You invite Texas and Oklahoma, you catch Big 12. Sometimes you're just going to have to sign up and be ready to go 44, 41. Doesn't matter how many NFL draft picks you've got on that defensive line. You know what happens to those NFL draft picks when they have to play all those snaps? They start huffing and puffing and they can't quite have the same impact. So who can score 44? I think that Alabama can score 44 against anybody in the SEC.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't think they could score 44 against anybody in the SEC unless they start running the ball better.

[Tom Fornelli]

It kind of depends on. On who they play. Obviously. Like, they're not going to score 44 on Texas. Defense is really good.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. I don't think they'll score 44 in.

[Tom Fornelli]

LSU if Tennessee gets the corners back. They will not score 44 on Tennessee, I don't think.

[Chip Patterson]

What about on Vandy?

[Bud Elliott]

No, nobody's going 44 on Vandy. Fanny scores 44 on you.

[Tom Fornelli]

But, like, there are some challenging games on the schedule left. Like, a lot of them.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

At Georgia, nobody's happy about having to play Vandy between, like, Georgia and the trip to Missouri. Missouri looks really buttoned up and good.

[Bud Elliott]

The next month and a half.

[Chip Patterson]

Sucks.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, that's outside hell, outside of Eastern Illinois. Like, where's the one game on there where you're like, they've got no shot of losing.

[Tom Fornelli]

Most of the teams on Bama's schedule look better than we thought they would in the preseason, with the exception of South Carolina.

[Chip Patterson]

Right. I would agree with that. Oklahoma, tbd. We're using. We are using the Michigan win as a big data point for Oklahoma. We'll see. I mean, we'll find that out on October 11th when they play.

[Tom Fornelli]

Did you see materials jump pass today?

[Chip Patterson]

I saw a lot of wild boy behavior from John Matiere today.

[Tom Fornelli]

I was like, okay, this is interesting. Like, the jump pass is like, it's cool. You have it in your bag. I don't know if we need it if nobody's around you like this.

[Bud Elliott]

But see, that's John Matiere, though. Like, yeah, it is what happens when nobody is watching. That's who he is. And that's.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, I could. I could do the Tennessee segment. Lean Back. Right. And do the Aguilar.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

I can't just jump during the show and we talk about the home. But that was. That was cool.

[Chip Patterson]

That's what I do when I do a sicko mode dance.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tom Fornelli]

The material.

[Chip Patterson]

Congrats to Alabama. Tom, you were tasked with writing about Luke Fickle. Do you want to expound on that now or save it for Monday?

[Bud Elliott]

I'll expound on it now. I. I don't think there is an appetite to fire Luke Fickle. I don't think tonight's loss or today's loss does anything to change Luke Fickle's status. It's just. It feels exactly like last year. Because last year at this time was when Tyler Van Dyke got hurt against Alabama and the season completely fell apart from there. Billy Edwards was hurt in the season opener. So here you are again, playing Alabama with your backup quarterback, getting your ass handed to you. You. So if you just look at the situation like the record. Fickle's record against Power 4 competition is 8 and 13 at Wisconsin. It's not great. And I think that when you combine that and the rest of their schedule, if they keep taking losses like this, meanwhile, Jason X winning a bunch of games at New Mexico and beating ucla, a former Wisconsin offensive lineman. And I also know that there is currently a sitting power four coach who has expressed interest in this job if it comes open. Oh, I just. If things spiral out of control, I don't know that Luke Fickle is as safe as I thought he was at the beginning of the year.

[Tom Fornelli]

I will say, just from hearing things, Wisconsin does have a little more nil money than I thought they would have. So I do think this will be an attractive job if it opens. Is it. Do we think this is still a top half of the Big Ten job? Yeah, job like not. Not team, obviously.

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Bud Elliott]

Top half. All right, I'm gonna try to name. Hold on.

[Chip Patterson]

Top nine. There are 18 teams in the Big Ten.

[Bud Elliott]

I know. And I'm gonna. Oregon, Oregon, USC, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan. There's five.

[Tom Fornelli]

Nebraska.

[Bud Elliott]

Nebraska is six.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Would you rather have Illinois or Wisconsin right now?

[Tom Fornelli]

I think I would rather have Wisconsin. You guys are clearly in much better position than they are because, you know, Brett's got that thing working there. But you got. You got a big donation too. Right.

[Bud Elliott]

So I disagree.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

We just got 100 million. We've got that.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. But.

[Tom Fornelli]

But would you rather have more money.

[Bud Elliott]

Than Wisconsin?

[Tom Fornelli]

Would you rather have Washington's? I would.

[Bud Elliott]

I think. I think Washington's tough because of the travel, but they do care a lot. And you don't have the recruiting base, although you've got some decent recruits up there. But it's not like you have a really solid recruiting base in the state of Wisconsin, but you're able to recruit Chicago in the suburbs.

[Chip Patterson]

So before Kaylin left, he talked about how they needed to get their house in order, nil wise. So they were not on the front foot. I can't speak to their current operation, but I remember what it was like when they were doing their playoff run and how he felt like they had really done some good work because of the playoff run. But at the beginning of the season, he did not feel like they were up to snuff with the best teams in the country.

[Bud Elliott]

Would you rather have Iowa than Wisconsin?

[Chip Patterson]

I would rather have Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin has been. I think. I think Wisconsin has peaked through. I know it's all Barry and Barry and Barry, but I. I think that Wisconsin at least has hit in sort of multiple different coaches. So I'd rather have that.

[Bud Elliott]

Top half, but it's right there in the middle.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, it's somewhere between like 7 and 11, depending on. On your preference.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

So it's not top third. Okay. It's still a good job, man.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know what. I know it's a big number. I don't know exactly what it is, but the buyout's pretty hefty, if I recall.

[Tom Fornelli]

Perfect.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is it. Is it all do it once or is it like.

[Bud Elliott]

I do not know. I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

That's a huge difference.

[Chip Patterson]

What you should do. This is actually a challenge. I know we've got an awesome audience in the tailgate, rocking and rolling. I want everyone to do this right now and everyone who's listening google the following terms. Okay. Luke fickle buyout Robbie calland. All right, those words. Luke fickle buyout Robbie calend. It's only five words. And it will lead you to a story on CBSSports.com Luke Fickle buyout Robbie calland.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, bang. I'm right there.

[Chip Patterson]

See, that's how easy it is. Tom just did it live on air.

[Tom Fornelli]

Me too. Look at that.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, it is approximately 31 and a half million. Or he will have 31 and a half million left on his deal. It's 80 of the deal, so it'd be approximately 25 million. That's not that bad.

[Chip Patterson]

And just as a team or later in the show, just. Just to make sure the audience is watching, if you want to go Ahead and get this in too. We'd appreciate it. Brent Pry buyout Robbie Calland will also lead you to the answers you're looking for. Shout out to Robbie the buyout king. Got that on lock. Okay. Buy out, that ain't coming. But a lot of problems that have to be addressed.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, I just, I feel like if you're a Wisconsin fan, there's just not a whole lot to feel optimistic about right now.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think you could also tell yourself, hey, we have been snake bit by some of these preseason injuries under Luke, the schedule has been really challenging. There are Big Ten teams whose schedule are a lot easier than what he has had so far. Like last year they lost Thompson the nose, like one of their best defensive players in the preseason. This year they lose the left tackle coming out of spring. It. That's not the reason that they're not any good, but it certainly doesn't help to lose like premier line of scrimmage. Guys. Quarterback gets hurt early this year. Quarterback got hurt, what, last year too. Right. So I don't fault the guy for trying to kind of bring them into the 21st century offensively somewhat. Because you knew leaving the Big Ten west, you were not gonna be able to play bully ball against some of those top third type teams in the league now. It didn't work with the hire they made and they, they. I'm not convinced Luke Fickle's like an awful coach. I do think that maybe some of his success at Cincinnati was with that staff that is largely like now at Notre Dame and spread across college football. And it's hard to just, it's hard to pull aces every time when you make staff hire. So I, I, sometimes it just doesn't work out and you gotta move on.

[Chip Patterson]

How. Who, who gets the. I was right the most about the Clemson Tigers.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think for the amount of shit he took in the offseason, Bill Connolly, because he was like 10 toes down on it. Like, guys, they beat a bunch of really crappy C teams. They lost four games to everybody who had decent athletes. I think Bill had. Bill had him what, outside the top 10?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, like 12, 15, somewhere around there. A lot of Tom, a lot of. Not Danny or in the tailgate right now.

[Bud Elliott]

Danny probably still believes in him.

[Tom Fornelli]

You, you have like. We all, we all get stuff wrong. You had like, people in this industry we really respect picking them to win the national title.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, I didn't go that far. I had him as ACC champs. I had them like, I, I was, I was at least spinning. I was Eating up the narrative. And I think it's funny that the AP Top 25 poll had it, you know, for all of your like data driven stuff, more like 10, 12, 15, even the coaches poll were like, I don't know, 6, 7. No, no, no, no. You, you guys don't understand. Look at all these signs. Look at, look at all that point to. And you know when I caught the smell that this was off was this week because Dabo Sweeney made those references to 2016 because he said, you know, we started against Auburn, low scoring, rock fight. Everyone was worried about what was wrong. We played against Troy. It was a closer game than anyone was expected. Everyone was like, what was wrong? What did that team do? They went and won the national title. And I, I mentioned this earlier today. Do you know what that team did the year before they played for the national title? They pushed Alabama to the dagum brink. They went undefeated in conference play. So when they brought everybody back, there was no prove it. It was like, hey, what's wrong? You just did that. We were asking the 2025 Clemson Tigers to be able to prove something that they had not proven. This was a team that had lost. I mean forget four games last year. How about four games a year before? How about eight games across the last two years? How about the fact that from 2012 to 2020, this Clemson Tigers program under Dabo Sweeney lost two games to unranked teams and since the start of 2021, they have lost eight games to unranked teams. It ain't about like what happens against the big dogs. I agree with you. There is something to be said there. But you stop being you. Clemson stops being Clemson, the kings of the acc. When you lose games you are supposed to win. When you lose games that the number beside your name and the talent on paper says you should win. They're gonna be a blue chip ratio team for a while as they have been since 2016. But you know what they are now. They're one of them blue chip ratio teams that loses a couple games a year. Congratulations, you're entering your Texas A and M phase, Clemson. Congratulations, you're entering a Miami phase. Clemson. Like, like this is, this is where you are at. Because that team is more talented than the performance that we have seen from them through three games. And there's nothing wrong with being a top 20 program, but it's just very clear we are out on considering you capable of getting back to being a top five program.

[Bud Elliott]

To echo your point there a little bit since the start of last season against Power 4 competition. Forget ranked teams. I don't care. You could be Wake Forest. You could be Northwestern. Just be in a big conference. Clemson is 8 and 6. They're 1510 since 2023. They are a good team. They are not great. They are not elite. They are a good team, which is nothing wrong with being good. But we have to reevaluate the way we look at the Clemson Tigers.

[Tom Fornelli]

I. I would agree. You know, Tech had no tackles for loss against Clemson today. Like that's crazy. But yet it didn't feel like Clemson ever pushed them around it offensively. Right now nothing looks easy for them. Like there's not a lot of just oh yeah, that that guy's open. Cade's not hitting him on time. It just. It looks. They just have that look of everything being challenging for whatever reason right now. And I don't know exactly what it is. I've never been like a Cade guy, but in some ways he looks a little bit worse than he did last year. To be honest, I. That. That I did not see coming. It. I wonder if they're not like a red their press clippings team in the off season and just everybody said like yeah, they brought everybody back. They're going to be better. But maybe they didn't. I don't want to accuse them like not putting the work in to be better, but you actually have to do things to. To realize that potential. It doesn't. They're not playing like they did those things.

[Bud Elliott]

It's that damn buses, man. Take it off.

[Chip Patterson]

No, no, no.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, it is the buses. I mean that's the number one problem.

[Chip Patterson]

No, I.

[Tom Fornelli]

They look like like an even team with Georgia Tech, which is a credit to Tech and a demerit. Decent.

[Bud Elliott]

They're just a good team. Good teams are going to lose every single week when they play other good teams.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yep.

[Chip Patterson]

Do you know what I think is. And I probably did just get myself clipped for something that's going to roll in the. In the. In the facility next to the big slide.

[Bud Elliott]

Dad was going to have your face on the front of the Roy bus.

[Chip Patterson]

No, see this is. This is the part that I hope they do clip. I think Dabo is the most disappointed. I think he knows his last run. No, I just think he knows this team is more talented than they are performing. You know, I just that. That he said before the season. He said he was like, you know, y' all keep telling me about all these NFL draft picks on defense. We gave up 300 yards to the Citadel. I mean I can't remember Citadel or Furman, but, you know, he was like, we couldn't get off the field against South Carolina. You know, he. He was trying to do that thing of like, talk trash about his team to counteract all this, like, fluff and positivity and glazing, as the kids say, that was coming out. Coming into the year, especially with the NFL draft stuff, it's like, oh, y' all tell me these are all first round picks.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, that's what is surprising to me a little bit here because there are certain guys who do a really good job a full year out on the mock draft stuff. And like, those guys had the Clemson dudes really high.

[Chip Patterson]

All of them.

[Tom Fornelli]

If it's the dudes who clearly just do it for. For clicks and like, like that.

[Bud Elliott]

Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, this guy's track record and I kind of track it a little bit. Right. Just to kind of see. Okay, yeah, this guy actually has been pretty good. You know, if you're getting like 11 or 12 first rounders a full year out, that's actually really hard to do. And very good. Those are the guys who had the Clemson dudes really high. I was like, maybe I am too low on this team this year.

[Chip Patterson]

Avion Terrell at least made a great play on a pass rush where he tossed a tight end to the side and still made his way to the quarterback to apply some pressure. So always something you love to see from your extremely gifted defensive back.

[Tom Fornelli]

But Faulkner's a hell of a play caller, man.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, the whole second half that guys. Yeah. I thought that there was a moment where Clemson had really turned the thing in their favor. And when Georgia Tech got the ball back, it just seemed the whole final drive leading into the game winning field goal, they. They knew what they were doing. They were working the clock. They. It was just, it was well done.

[Bud Elliott]

I want to say is who people think Cade Klubnick is.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Yes. Okay. So I wanted. I. I feel like it's not a good point to make because he's literally facing a similar age quarterback in. In Kate Klebnik. But across the sport, having a really veteran quarterback now that most of the COVID kids are gone does seem to stand out. You know, Beckett, Miami Nuss at lsu, like, a ton of pressure on him tonight and for the most part didn't make crazy critical mistakes. He had the one, obviously. Obviously. But I would put King in that category. Just he's kind of a grown man playing college football and it stands out.

[Chip Patterson]

Yep.

[Tom Fornelli]

But if you're a Clemson Fan. You're like our kids, just as old. Like why, why is he not doing it?

[Chip Patterson]

This is Kate Club next. Third year in this, in third year in the system. You know, he was the ACC championship game MVP at the end of the 2022 season. Garrett Riley gets hired after 2022. Cade Clubnik is a starter for 23. He's a starter for 24. He's the starter here in 25. I mean I, I, they didn't have an edge, man. They didn't have it. Okay, thank you.

[Tom Fornelli]

I don't want to start this but like I don't think they play hard for Cade.

[Chip Patterson]

The vibes are, I don't know if it's for Cade. I don't want to draw that line. I just can, I can like I.

[Tom Fornelli]

Think Tech plays hard for King. I don't think Clemson plays hard for Kate.

[Chip Patterson]

That can be your opinion. I'm not going to argue against it. I can just tell that it's just they, Tech, Georgia Tech brought a, a level of confidence and urgency that I do not think was matched in this game.

[Bud Elliott]

Agreed.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like they had better belief in what they're doing.

[Chip Patterson]

It just man, you, it was like the 3rd and 22 give up down that Adam Randall bust loose, keeps a drive alive and is able to get that score right before halftime. The long 73 yard Bryant Wesco touchdown. I mean, small individual offensive plays mask what was largely an ineffective and inefficient effort. Effort on the afternoon.

[Bud Elliott]

Can I rant about one thing in this game though?

[Tom Fornelli]

Sure. Yes.

[Bud Elliott]

Eric Rivers. That was bush league bull crap what you did. Stepping out of bounds, Eric Rivers caught that deep ball, the 42 yard pass and that guy with one man standing between him in the end zone ran out of bounds untouched at the five yard line. If a player on my team did that, I would bench his ass so fast he was afraid to try to fight through a tackle to score a touchdown. Can you imagine if like Tech didn't like Justice Hayden saved his ass, they scored. But can you imagine if Clemson holds him out of the end zone there, keeps him to a field goal. Guess what? Clemson wins that game because Eric Rivers was scared to be touched. I see that on film. If you see that on film and you're a Georgia Tech player, wear his ass out. Moving on.

[Tom Fornelli]

That was. Where does Clemson go from here? Actually, let's talk winners first. Could Tech make the playoff? Yes, because they could be 111 or 12 0.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, look at that schedule.

[Bud Elliott]

My God.

[Tom Fornelli]

That's what I'm saying. I thought about that.

[Bud Elliott]

Wow. So Temple at Wake, Virginia Tech at Duke, Syracuse at NC State at BC pit and then you finish with Georgia. They could go 10 and 2 pretty easily. I mean all easily relative, but.

[Chip Patterson]

Wow.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I think you have to consider they're in the hunt.

[Tom Fornelli]

They kind of, they're kind of like the, like the Missouri of the acc.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, they get very, they can get. They might be in Charlotte.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like I, Yes, I, I think that they, they are very likely to be in Charlotte.

[Chip Patterson]

And here's the thing.

[Tom Fornelli]

If Haynes King stays healthy.

[Chip Patterson]

No, I don't think it matters. Aaron follows good.

[Tom Fornelli]

Aaron follows good. But like in a more like up and down, high variance way. I think like King gives you a consistent with the run game. I just trust him to pull out a lot of these games.

[Chip Patterson]

But keep it up, Mikey. Keep it up real quick. Like the margin for error against these teams is so much larger than what you have had to deal with here. Like I just getting to Charlotte 100% in the cards.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's definitely very possible. But also, I don't think this Tech team is better than last year's Tech team, do you?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Tom Fornelli]

And last year's Tech team did lose. Like they played a one point game against a really sketchy NC State team. Right. They played a one score game against that UNC team which you know, obviously was kind of up and down. They, they lost at Louisville.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

Louisville was, was, you know, pretty good last year. They lost. Maybe there's just a Louisville and Q's on the schedule.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean at Duke, at NC State. At NC State's honestly the scariest date there.

[Tom Fornelli]

Pit could get them potentially. I know that sounds crazy after what happened today, but like Pitt could in theory get them, you know, at BC can be tricky at times. Hell, I, I mean Duke played better against Illinois that he played against Tulane. Somehow as far as like down for.

[Bud Elliott]

Down, it just got unlucky again. But.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, good stuff. So, yes, flowers for Georgia Tech. Brent Key now 7 and 1 as a head coach against ACC opponents when that opponent is ranked. You mentioned all these like Georgia Tech sketchy losses. Yeah, they're the unranked teams. Throw a little number beside the name. Done. Son.

[Bud Elliott]

You see Tech on that schedule next week, you better lose this week. You got no shot.

[Chip Patterson]

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[Chip Patterson]

Back here on the COVID 3 podcast. I did not watch a lot of Texas UTEP, but the commentary was robust.

[Bud Elliott]

As were the booze.

[Chip Patterson]

Arch getting booed.

[Tom Fornelli]

They kind of should be. I mean, the Texas fans that I saw on Twitter who I think are like people who know what they're talking about, they're like, there's no way in hell we're going to waste this defense. Right?

[Chip Patterson]

Right.

[Tom Fornelli]

This defense is three years in a.

[Chip Patterson]

Row they've had like one of the best defenses in the country.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, this defense is so damn.

[Chip Patterson]

Good because two years ago they had Murphy and Sweat. Last year they were still awesome. Right? Wasn't Murphy and Sweat two years ago?

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, that was when they played Washington in semis.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. And last year they were still awesome. And this year they've got.

[Bud Elliott]

They're awesome.

[Chip Patterson]

Awesome. I mean.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Arch with Arch's final stat line. 11 of 25, 114 yards, one touchdown and one interception. But he had nine straight.

[Tom Fornelli]

Did he average like 20, 22 yards per completion? Like, like Marshall?

[Bud Elliott]

No, no, no. Only 10.4.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, that's like half. And then. Yeah, he had, he had nine straight incompletions at the one point which is what led to the booze.

[Tom Fornelli]

He had a 47 passing grade from. Pff.

[Bud Elliott]

Did he? Yeah. That's great. I mean that's better than 35.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean facing Texas defense Malachi Nelson out of 54.

[Bud Elliott]

All right, so there's was this the matchup of the most overrated five star quarterbacks of all time.

[Tom Fornelli]

There's probably like a Brock Berlin against whoever was starting for Florida mid 2000s that would rival this. But I think with the Manning hype. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean listen, I'm not giving up on him. But who. Boy, it is. It's getting hard to believe. I mean he ran the ball pretty okay. 51 yards, two touchdowns, best running back that they had.

[Tom Fornelli]

I thought Derek Gibson looked good.

[Bud Elliott]

The.

[Tom Fornelli]

The because shoot Baxter went to the injury tent and into the locker room.

[Chip Patterson]

Right at the beginning of the game.

[Tom Fornelli]

Gibson came in and ran hard.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

My biggest concern with Arch is the accuracy. He misses throws. Looks like Caleb Williams on Monday Night Football. Just missing dudes by yards.

[Chip Patterson]

44 completion percentage. I know Bud just gave his grade in the 50s. But I mean just not great.

[Tom Fornelli]

They. He's not their only problem. I mean like Livingston and Wingo also graded pretty poorly in this. I didn't watch every snap of this. I went back and watched some of the Arch throats.

[Chip Patterson]

Those.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm not watching a whole lot of Texas UTEP when we have a lot of good games going on. But it was hard not to watch some with. With how. How low scoring that game was. Oh at least.

[Chip Patterson]

But, but do you know what I said? I said the biggest problem for Texas was all the weather delays. Like in another world where all those games that were in weather delays weren't in weather delays, we wouldn't have had so many people watching Texas. But there was just a spot right there in the 3:30 window where everyone else was like man, what games are on? What games are even on right now? And everyone tuned in and here's Arch. Short arming, missing passers, just getting booed.

[Bud Elliott]

Praying for lightning she wears.

[Tom Fornelli]

They do have some time to get it right. But you would think that it would start to get right when you face San Jose State and utep. Yeah, those are.

[Bud Elliott]

What did Marcel Reed.

[Tom Fornelli]

Do to utep, right? Yeah, there's a lot wrong with this offense right now, they're not running the football very well. I don't. We talked after the Ohio State game that I don't think their receivers are. Are all that great, but they're not this bad.

[Chip Patterson]

Do you. Do you believe in LSU more than Texas?

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Both teams. Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, both teams seem to be leading with their defense.

[Bud Elliott]

I like Texas's defense better. I like LSU's quarterback better. More often than not, the team with the better quarterback will have the advantage.

[Tom Fornelli]

The gap between the defenses is smaller than the gap between the quarterbacks.

[Chip Patterson]

What about, like, wide receivers, offense as a whole? Same.

[Tom Fornelli]

I would take the other two receivers.

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, same.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Offensive line, I would take Texas, but I. I don't think Texas is. Offensive line has played great.

[Tom Fornelli]

They're both sketchy. Yeah, for sure.

[Chip Patterson]

What you think about LSU's win against Florida?

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, it's hard to lose when you get five interceptions.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, way more of an indictment in Florida, right?

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay.

[Tom Fornelli]

I thought, like, Florida played hard. Their defense played really well.

[Chip Patterson]

God, their defense. Plate left, like, defense gave themselves a chance to win this football game.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

It.

[Tom Fornelli]

Lagway did not play well at all. Like, he looks worse than he did last year. I was, like, so encouraged by what he did, literally, to this LSU team last year. Right. Like, he. He carried that Florida team on his back in beating him last year. And tonight, I mean, 33 of 49, but also 49 throws, you can't run the ball at all. Like, 27 for 79 is. That's awful.

[Bud Elliott]

And that was with Wit Weeks missing just about the entire damn game.

[Tom Fornelli]

Right? Yeah. He got ejected. What, the first quarter, like, first try, right?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

LSU stuck with there. We're going to bring a ton of pressure. Game plan. And it largely worked. Florida kept trying to hit these screens. And I don't disagree with it, honestly. Like, if you're gonna bring that much pressure, there's a good chance you do pop a screen. There was a chance in this game. It got. It got called back for holding. But I thought, okay, if Florida takes that 100 lead, maybe they have something there. But it gets. It gets called back. The drive ends and LSU goes down, scores, and they never look back. I mean, I don't know, it felt like a. A somewhat evenly played game that LSU was just not at risk of imploding in the same way that Florida was.

[Chip Patterson]

Well, no, I will pull away a.

[Tom Fornelli]

Ton, but, like, they're not gonna just totally, like, drive off the mountain. Like, it Looked like Florida was going to do.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm not pushing back as violently as I made that sound. They were absolutely at risk of imploding the way Florida was. They just didn't.

[Tom Fornelli]

Sure.

[Chip Patterson]

This is still Garrett Nussmeier we're talking about.

[Bud Elliott]

And we still got that one interception. Stupid. Yeah, he does that. Like, he has that in the bag, and he brings it out a little too often. Just absolute stupidity.

[Chip Patterson]

I've.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think one of the best things he does is probably get them out of, like, the potentially negative plays.

[Bud Elliott]

And the touchdown pass he made was gorgeous.

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

No one has ever doubted Garrett Nussmeier's talent.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. They didn't do crap on offense. It's. Again, let's get ahead of this conversation. Chip, is lsu. Like, they're probably still gonna be third in the polls tomorrow, so, like, let's reevaluate their current resume. Okay. They beat Clemson, who's now lost twice. Just lost in Georgia Tech. They beat Louisiana Tech and they scored, like, what, 23 points in that game. And then tonight, they beat a Florida team that is now 1 and 2 with losses to South Florida and now LSU.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, I don't know if you guys have looked at the updated odds to win the SEC on our friends at FanDuel. Don't look if you haven't. Who is number one?

[Chip Patterson]

Alabama.

[Tom Fornelli]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

Georgia.

[Tom Fornelli]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

Tell us. You.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's Texas.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm not saying I agree. I'm just literally reading.

[Chip Patterson]

Hold on a second.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Fanduel. Make every moment. Oh, we're in Tennessee.

[Tom Fornelli]

That's right.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. And play your game.

[Bud Elliott]

Just. Can we. Can we clip this and fire off.

[Chip Patterson]

A couple of other fires?

[Bud Elliott]

No, I need to clip this with the date Saturday, September 13th. Texas is the favorite to win the SEC. And this is why power ratings probably shouldn't be a part of the College Football Playoff formula.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, right now, if they played tomorrow, Oklahoma's favorite over Texas. Right. Not saying they will be in three weeks.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, these teams play tomorrow.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm pretty sure I haven't adjusted mine. I'm pretty sure Texas will still be above Oklahoma, but they might not be. I don't know.

[Chip Patterson]

Tom offered a great tease for tomorrow's top 25 today. Coming up in just a little bit. LSU. Yes. Was at number three. The challengers would be Oregon or Georgia or Miami or Notre Dame, obviously. No, not Notre Dame. Notre Dame just lost. Update, update, update.

[Bud Elliott]

It's about to call you.

[Chip Patterson]

I. I said thank you. Yeah. So we'll. We'll give you the full projection moving forward. But yeah LS use hold in the top three is is absolutely tenuous. All right, coming up on the other side, we continue with recap of the backyard Brawl, some of the the lopsided wins, what can we take away from them and more nukes. Your fantasy season doesn't end after your draft. The Fantasy Football Today podcast is going to get you through the season and to a championship. Fantasy Football Today, part of CBS Sports Podcast Network, has episodes every single day, Waiver wire, trade talk, starter sit, mailbags and more. If you want to win your league, you need to listen to Fantasy Football Today download and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere podcasts are found.

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[Chip Patterson]

Back here on the COVID 3 podcast some flowers for Miami they took care of business. How much did we watch on the CW again? One of the game, one of the mini games. So USC Purdue had a lightning delay or a weather delay? We had a weather delay that hit once we had gotten into the game for Miami usf. We had had weather delay in the Texas Tech game, which was also supposed to be a big national window. All of that, as I mentioned, led to us watching Arch Manning misses receivers. So it was kind of hard to play catch up with everything. I was describing it to my kids. I was like I'm sorry, everything's happening right now. We we were supposed to have some of these games earlier, some of these games later. But how much I saw them take control of this game and then I was happy to happy to see that.

[Bud Elliott]

That maintains I did not see a snap of this game in the second half. I was watching it live before the delay and then I Saw a bit of it after the delay in the first half, but it was 286 at halftime. So, yeah, I checked out, but it was. I mean, Byron Brown hit a couple very big plays, but South Florida could not finish and score touchdowns. They had to settle for field goals. And Miami was just the much better football team, just from top to bottom.

[Tom Fornelli]

I. I watched a lot of this, actually. I thought Beck was largely in rhythm. They got a lot of the young guys involved as well. I mean, Tony, still, they played Josh Moore a lot. It was really kind of surprised to see him play that well that early. If he's playing that well. The early Miami really has something there because he was kind of raw coming out. He was more of like a, you know, long term, high upside type guy. Getting him involved on some of the catch and run stuff was. Was pretty nice to see. I. I'm really like, they have invested heavily in the office and offensive defensive lines, which is kind of Mario's trademark, and they have hit on those investments. So, like, Miami's going to be really good up front this year. They are like, is there a team O line, D line combined? You would take over Miami?

[Bud Elliott]

No.

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, that's a snap call. I. I had to think about. I had not really thought about it before I posed the question to you guys.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm taking them, but they.

[Tom Fornelli]

Probably the best line of scrimmage team in the country, I think.

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Mario, Crystal ball. Damn it. It's the whole damn point.

[Chip Patterson]

Because here's the thing. All right, so let's, let's run it back. Okay. Who's. Who's the number one team in the country? Ohio State. Fair. Fair competition. Ohio State Fans shout hey, A.J. hey, A.J. yeah, like, like all the Ohio State fans are probably like, our offensive line is improved. Our defensive line, the young bucks have showed up. They look nasty. We're fair. Okay, so who's number two? Penn State. Good competition.

[Bud Elliott]

Miami.

[Chip Patterson]

That's quick.

[Bud Elliott]

Culture problem at Penn State can't cover lsu.

[Chip Patterson]

Absolutely not. Offensive line definitely too far behind. Defensive line. I would still take Miami. Oregon, Miami, Miami, Georgia.

[Bud Elliott]

Although I'd say Oregon's might be close by the end of the year. I still need to see him doing it against better lines in the Big Ten when they get there.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, but Georgia.

[Bud Elliott]

Miami.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Especially right now.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. I mean, I don't feel bad about that. Again, snap call in the 70th minute at 12:44am Eastern Time at the end of a long and very busy day.

[Bud Elliott]

But they're, they're Large, strong, mean men.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. And. And to your point, bud, I thought Carson looked again. I didn't watch much in the second half. I thought Carson looked sharp. I mean he's just. Was it. The first two drives are both touchdowns and they just kind of in rhythm. Good to go. Understand what we're doing. Fired up. Body language doesn't look bad. I mean Miami's good for, for all of the. The skies falling. What are we gonna do if Clemson isn't good? Maybe, maybe it is finally Miami's time. Because there was a time where Clemson was regular. Right. When Clemson won the ACC championship in 2011, it's the first time they'd won a conference title in 2011 years. They were middling for a long, long time. Maybe it's Miami's time.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is college game day going to be forced to go to Tallahassee?

[Bud Elliott]

They're going next week. Yeah. Oh, no, no. They're doing Miami Florida next week.

[Chip Patterson]

No, October 4th is Miami Florida.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. I was thinking so. Well, they want it. That'd be what? That's next week. Would they go to.

[Tom Fornelli]

Are they going to send Herbie to Tallahassee?

[Bud Elliott]

No, you'll get McElroy McDonough.

[Chip Patterson]

I thought you guys were the time slot champs. Shout out to Rich Rod, a one time CBS employee, a colleague. Tom, you and I just gotten hired and Richard did like a conference call with us. Yep, just being cool. Just chat and ball. I will always appreciate him for that. He was out of coaching at the time. It was 2010, 2011, you know, like he just, you know, was out at Michigan. But yeah, he, the, the on field interview was great. I mean he, he recognized that was a far from perfect game that the Mountaineers had played. That's why you talk a lot about grit not quitting. When you win in overtime against your rival and the game was ugly, you talk about grit not quitting. So shout out to West Virginia. Big home win for the Mountaineers. I, I don't have any big picture what this means for West Virginia to come out of.

[Bud Elliott]

It doesn't mean a damn thing.

[Chip Patterson]

Just it means a lot individually for the fans in Morgantown. Yes. It does not impact the way that I've adjusted my overall analysis for West Virginia football.

[Bud Elliott]

Correct.

[Tom Fornelli]

Have you heard that stadium today, man? Like that, that belief of those fans, like how much it means to them that. That that's college football, right?

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Tom Fornelli]

I got a West Virginia buddy and, and I text him earlier in the week. I was like, dude, like wtf? Bray and White losing those two guys that your studs in the same game last week. And he was obviously not real happy about that. And tonight he said, went to the okay corral with a knife and pulled some John Wick.

[Chip Patterson]

See, yes. Like, that's the thing is like we, we.

[Tom Fornelli]

It wouldn't have been close if Nico doesn't get knocked out for a couple drives because the backup came in and threw a couple picks to allow Pitt to get back in the ball game.

[Chip Patterson]

I, I saw Eli, I saw Eli getting YOLO at the very beginning of the game. I was like, oh, well, you're cooking hooked. If ball security is an issue on drive number one, we're gonna have a real problem here.

[Bud Elliott]

And The Pit had 14 penalties for 118 yards.

[Tom Fornelli]

They should play this game every year they've extended. Yeah, but like they're. They lose it for a couple years. Right.

[Bud Elliott]

I think there's like a two or three year gap. Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

This is insane. This should be an annual game.

[Chip Patterson]

I. Listen, I'll take, I'll take what I can get. They. They went into the weekend announcing, what is it, six more games on the schedule. Like, it is a lengthy renewal of the series, so I'll take it.

[Bud Elliott]

I can't remember who said it or tweeted it, but it was either somebody in Slack or somebody on Twitter who said, you know, it's a perfect backyard brawl because both fan bases are absolutely pissed off with their teams right now.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, ODU went belt to ass with Virginia Tech.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, that team's done.

[Chip Patterson]

By September 15th.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, they're done. They. They don't care.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, they. They've quit on bread price.

[Bud Elliott]

I tweeted, I said Kawhi Leonard showed more effort at his, his, his no show job is showing against Old Dominion tonight.

[Tom Fornelli]

Other coaches saw this coming, though. Like, we had heard in the off season that they had struck out a lot in their attempts to hire their coordinators.

[Chip Patterson]

Why you get Philip Montgomery, right? Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like now we're, we're good. Like, I'm not moving my family to Blacksburg for one year.

[Chip Patterson]

And this comes after Virginia Tech athletic director Whit Babcock. And I will mention this in a, you know, when, when we actually start going through the motions with Virginia Tech. What was it two weeks ago? He told all of their university leadership, our expectations do not match our investment. Like blood, when you're like, what's a better job? Sounds like they got some internal issues to figure out how good a job Virginia Tech is.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, that's still a top half job in the acc, I think. But Like, I would rather have Duke.

[Chip Patterson]

In terms of football budget. They're 11th.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Not great. Hey, Justin Fuente just got a job with the cfp.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm sure he'll have great things to say about Virginia Tech.

[Chip Patterson]

You know, I saw him. I saw him.

[Tom Fornelli]

I'm not sure he'll ever have to debate during his. Sir, I saw him.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, I'm gonna recuse myself. Not Justin.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's like that, bro. Stay here.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I saw him in the press box, and I was wondering. I was like, what? Okay. Because he's. He's like an analyst for tcu. Like, yeah, he's not long for this. I thought it was another coaching. Coaching job. It's even better. It's just a football expert for the cfp.

[Tom Fornelli]

This is on us.

[Chip Patterson]

That job is.

[Tom Fornelli]

That is a good job. This is on us for not pairing this game with the Wisconsin game.

[Chip Patterson]

How so?

[Tom Fornelli]

The Hokies are just Wisconsin of the ACC right now.

[Chip Patterson]

That's. That's some bigger thematic stuff that's probably good for Mondays, but I like. I'm glad that you connected it a lot more. Let's.

[Bud Elliott]

All right.

[Tom Fornelli]

Do Georgia fans still want Mike Bobo gone? Thought he called a nice game today.

[Bud Elliott]

Probably. I mean, it's hard to let go of old habits.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. What'd you think about. Let's do some advanced stuff. Oregon and. Oregon and Penn State got some off weeks coming up. Oregon's got Oregon State. Don't overlook the Civil War. Penn State is off.

[Bud Elliott]

I think you can overlook the Civil War. I don't know if you've seen Oregon State and Washington State lately, but I don't think that's going to be much of a challenge for the Ducks.

[Chip Patterson]

I'm. I'm sorry. I was still thrown off by your first statement before I realized you were talking about the football rap.

[Tom Fornelli]

I. I did watch some of that today because I was trying to do some advanced work for the big matchup next week, which is probably going to decide the Big 12 favorite. Where Texas Tech goes on the road to Utah.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Morton looks better for Texas Tech. Like that. That's important to note. He actually looks really good, so I know he'd had a lot of shoulder stuff in the past and got hurt a lot.

[Chip Patterson]

Like.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, he looks sharp. Utah missed three field goals in the first half alone, so that was a bit of an issue. They turned it on, obviously, late against Wyoming.

[Chip Patterson]

What'd you think about the ducks?

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, sorry. BC just fumbled at the goal line on 4th and goal. I mean, it was a slowish start, and then they just kind of started playing like they should be playing. They didn't have Noah Whittington, which impacted them early, I think, but the run game got going.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, Lamar is still rolling. I mean, you know.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

I thought Dante Moore played well. I thought they let go of the rope in the fourth quarter, though, and they had that cover and they just let Northwestern score. A little disappointing there, obviously.

[Chip Patterson]

I mean, I had them -13 and a half in the second half. They were up 14, nothing. At the end of the third quarter, I was like, all right, let's go have some pride. Keep their ass.

[Tom Fornelli]

Did you see Landing call out the speaker?

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Tom Fornelli]

That was cool.

[Bud Elliott]

He's like, yeah, it's very loud and it's very annoying. They should probably keep it. First, he made sure to say the phrase artificial crowd noise because that's against the rules. So he made sure to say it. That he talked about how annoying it was and he said they should probably keep it.

[Chip Patterson]

Garrett, our friend.

[Tom Fornelli]

It's a good comment. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Garrett. Garrett. And the tailgate said they treated it like a true. Like, hey.

[Bud Elliott]

Hey. They should just be happy. Like the weather that had been here. The morning cleared out before that game started because it was rough here this morning.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. Lot. Lots more to get into there from the. I didn't get much eyes on Penn State. There's.

[Bud Elliott]

It's hard. It's. It was the same Penn State game that we've seen already. Like, eventually. Yeah, like the dam broke because they were just so much better than the team they were playing and they were starting to put up points, but it's just. They're not really. They're not really going.

[Chip Patterson]

Michigan, Nebraska playing next week. Is Michigan better without Sherwin Moore? People are asking after a 60 point win. Actually, hold on, let me. Let me get reframed. You know, a lot of people are asking, is Michigan better without Sharon Moore on the sidelines after a 60 point win? Is Bryce Underwood less unchained?

[Bud Elliott]

I think so. I think that you have to say that it was nothing but the change in leadership from Sharon Moore to Biff Poggy that led to Michigan putting up 60. It certainly was not the opponent.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, definitely not a Central Michigan team that just underwent a coaching change that walked in to a hornet's nest of a Michigan team that lost on the road at Norman, yet nothing to do with trying to build up the confidence of your true freshman quarterback and trying to let him just keep the pedal to the metal. Okay. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Wait a minute.

[Tom Fornelli]

Hashtag.

[Bud Elliott]

Wait a minute. What sideline was Connor?

[Chip Patterson]

Stallions on the Central Michigan one who.

[Bud Elliott]

Didn'T narc on Central Michigan.

[Chip Patterson]

Connor.

[Bud Elliott]

Michigan who did Central Michigan say thank you to today. Michigan. Go ahead, put up 60 on us. Boys, we owe you one.

[Tom Fornelli]

Stanford gonna beat BC?

[Bud Elliott]

They might, dude.

[Tom Fornelli]

Wow.

[Bud Elliott]

I'll tell you what's not gonna happen. Danny's not going to get his BC minus 13 and a half. I just don't see it happening the way this game's going.

[Tom Fornelli]

That. That's a hard game to get up for, I feel like. Yeah, don't worry.

[Bud Elliott]

Danny's not.

[Chip Patterson]

Hey, Danny. I know you're on a run right now. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure. You look great.

[Bud Elliott]

You know, got your weighted vest on, running along the beach catching strays.

[Chip Patterson]

Somebody pulling up next to him. Like, I'm listening to the COVID three. They're roasting your ass. You shouldn't have pitched Boston College. Traveling across the country. Austin College is not trustworthy. Anyway, nice to meet you.

[Tom Fornelli]

You know who is trustworthy?

[Chip Patterson]

Tell me.

[Tom Fornelli]

Our doors.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, my. Well, I mean, Lenora Sellers gets knocked out of the game.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like they're winning that even if Sellers plays.

[Chip Patterson]

I agree, I agree. I just. It's impossible to not at least take that as a. A moment.

[Tom Fornelli]

Like, they're not winning by 24 if sellers stays in the game.

[Chip Patterson]

Correct.

[Tom Fornelli]

I do think they were going to win. I mean, over by October.

[Bud Elliott]

Yes.

[Chip Patterson]

Vandy's a good football team.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is Vandy going to get ranked at some point this year?

[Bud Elliott]

They should probably be ranked after this week, actually.

[Chip Patterson]

Great call. Coming up on the other side, we run through our projections for the new AP Top 25 and more next.

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[Tom Fornelli]

Out. Yes, totally.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I've got Clemson.

[Tom Fornelli]

Well their their Bot Tech win is aging like milk.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

So yeah, that's I've got South Carolina out. I've got Clemson out. I've Got Vanderbilt in.

[Tom Fornelli]

Iowa State drops to the 20s.

[Chip Patterson]

For struggling with a weird road game.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think you got to reduce the amount of credit you're giving them for beating Kansas State. Now, after Kansas State looks like they're.

[Chip Patterson]

Going to miss a bowl, well, that. Remember, you're dealing with a win sorter and a loss sorter situation. Like, Iowa State's not going to fall behind Alabama, even if you're going to say Alabama has a better win collection potentially. But they're going to be staying ahead of the Crimson Tide. Iowa State is not going to jump ahead of Oklahoma. Iowa State could get jumped by Ole Miss. But I wouldn't necessarily. I think that you're sitting. You're talking about teams in the 12, 13, 14, 15 region. Tennessee Falls behind Iowa State. Remember, Tennessee loses. Iowa State now 4, 0.

[Bud Elliott]

If you frame it that way, like win collection, which it is.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Do you think if voters thought of wins as like Pokemon cards, they would be more accurate with their rankings? That wasn't. That one just fell flat, I guess.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

Maybe you're committed.

[Bud Elliott]

Sorry, guys. I'm gonna go take a left.

[Chip Patterson]

I just.

[Tom Fornelli]

How many Pokemon can you name? Charizard? Pikachu. What's the fluffy one? Jigglypuff.

[Bud Elliott]

No, Jigglypuff was fat, right?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

Wait, hold on. I thought Jiggly. No, I thought Jigglypuff was super Smash Brothers.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, okay. So that's not even.

[Chip Patterson]

That's Kirby.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Jigglypuff and Kirby might be cousins, though.

[Chip Patterson]

Hold on. Let's take this. Let's get through this. Vod.

[Tom Fornelli]

Snorlax in the chat. All right.

[Chip Patterson]

So I think the Georgia Bulldogs will get a bump from winning in Knoxville because they got jumped last week from looking subpar, not at any big movement. But if you are a Miami fan and you wake up furious to see that you were five and now you're six. I'm sorry, that's just my projection for how the AP voters might overreact. Now, will Texas get dropped? Maybe. That would be a benefit to Illinois. That would be a benefit to Florida State. That might be a benefit to the Texas A M. Aggies. Now, I've got Texas A M checking in behind Florida State and Illinois. Currently, they were at 16 before the win against Notre Dame, but I've got them now up to number 10, Oklahoma with the slight bump up. I mentioned Ole Miss with a slight bump up. Alabama with a bump up. I don't know if Tennessee is going to fall that far. Some of that. Yeah. Some of that coming because of other losses that you've got. I mean, you lost in overtime to a top five team. I just. I don't. I don't find a reason to drop Tennessee behind Michigan as I project it. Not my own personal ballot. I'll figure that out on Sunday. As we've talked about before, we should predict. No, I'm not gonna predict her. People.

[Tom Fornelli]

This would be a really good week to either have, like, a top 20 or a top 35. 25 is going to make a lot of people angry, which is maybe the point. Maybe Georgia Tech is going to want to be ranked.

[Chip Patterson]

I've got Georgia Tech in.

[Tom Fornelli]

You have uscn?

[Chip Patterson]

Nope.

[Tom Fornelli]

Do you have TCU in?

[Chip Patterson]

Nope.

[Tom Fornelli]

You have Louisville in. Nope. Nebraska fans want to be ranked.

[Bud Elliott]

I'm just like, the biggest USC homer on the planet doesn't have him ranked.

[Chip Patterson]

Whoa. I didn't say that. I don't. I'm saying I'm not projecting that they're going to be ranked.

[Bud Elliott]

I think they will be. I think they're 26. That. Worse.

[Chip Patterson]

That was not the ass kicking you were thinking of.

[Bud Elliott]

No, I didn't think it was. I never thought it was going to be an ass kicking. Took Purdue in the first quarter. USC stinks on the road.

[Chip Patterson]

Arizona State was 26th last week. What's. What's going on with.

[Tom Fornelli]

They're not going to get back in. I wouldn't think. They already have a loss. You have a number of undefeated teams behind them.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I mean, byu, Georgia Tech, Florida, then all the way down to USC and tcu. I. I think it's going to be mostly. Mostly static on. On that front.

[Tom Fornelli]

The.

[Chip Patterson]

The thing that I am tracking, the thing that I'm most interested in is the Texas Longhorns because. Are you going to overreact? All they've got right now is win against San Jose State and a subpar performance based on expectations against UTEP to go with a quality loss in Columbus against Ohio State.

[Tom Fornelli]

I mean, if you're an Illinois fan, if you're a Florida State fan, you're like, what have they done to be ranked above us?

[Chip Patterson]

Right.

[Bud Elliott]

No, I'm sorry.

[Tom Fornelli]

Speaking of a team that is ranked in front of both of us. Us. Chip, do you have the Irish falling out of the poll?

[Chip Patterson]

No.

[Bud Elliott]

Got an 02 team sitting in there.

[Chip Patterson]

Yep.

[Bud Elliott]

You disgust me.

[Chip Patterson]

What? I mean, 24. I'm not. I'm. This is a projection.

[Bud Elliott]

I know. You're. You're influencing the poll. Do you know how many of these voters are googling top 25? At 2am and your story's coming up.

[Tom Fornelli]

This might be the only research some of these folks do is watching this video and they're gonna click on and say Pokemon.

[Bud Elliott]

Like this is, you know, and you've got Notre Dame sitting there at 0 and 2. You are. And USC's out. All these teams are out that deserve to be in over Notre Dame and you are ruining this country.

[Chip Patterson]

Does BYU deserve to be in ahead of Notre dame?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, because BYU's won a football game.

[Tom Fornelli]

I think the argument for keeping the Irish in, and Tom knows this, obviously we're not arguing really, but like, yeah, you. You had a. A 1 point loss at home to a pretty good A M team and you had a one score loss on the road.

[Bud Elliott]

Three point. Yeah. One score. Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

So you've played two teams that we think are definitely rankable, including one that we think should be top five to the final. To the final whistle.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

If Notre Dame's right tomorrow, I'm not actually going to be upset about it, but I. There is a part of me philosophically that's like, all right, if you're owing 1, you can stay ranked. If you're owing 2.

[Tom Fornelli]

I would probably not rank BYU. Not yet. Like, like play somebody that's.

[Chip Patterson]

If it's USC in Notre Dame out, I will be wrong with my projection, but I will believe better in the process.

[Tom Fornelli]

Just because this is breaking. Bryce Anderson has feelings in his limbs, according to Adam Rittenberg, so.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

That's awesome. Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Good.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah, good.

[Chip Patterson]

We are, we are very encouraged to hear all the positive updates. That was a scary situation for the Notre Dame defender there in the. In the second half of that game. Yeah. A long pause, a little bit of break. Things didn't look great, but glad. I think he. He maybe even gave a thumbs up. Like he at least was showing some extremity movement before he was. Before he was taken out to the hospital. But still tough, tough hit. Lots of.

[Tom Fornelli]

Not laughing at this. I'm laughing at the. The comment from Tom earlier that I missed. I just clicked over to the private chat.

[Chip Patterson]

Sorry again. If you want to sponsor for thousands and thousands of dollars, we'll just give you access to the private chat.

[Bud Elliott]

It was better than the Pokemon joke. I'll just leave it at that.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. So be sure to head over to CBSSports.com where we have projected the updated AP Top 25. Ohio State holds down number one. Penn State holds down number two. And as we discussed earlier in the LSU recap, the Tigers tenuous hold on number three, Oregon And Georgia and Miami all knocking on the door trying to get that spot. All right, I. I swore that at some point these are going to get shorter, but what?

[Bud Elliott]

We're only at 94 minutes. We are shorter.

[Chip Patterson]

What else? That we've got like a lot of other games that we can unpack.

[Tom Fornelli]

Shout out to New Mexico.

[Chip Patterson]

Oh, yeah, the weeknight games.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah. Shout out to Ole Miss for playing about as well as I could possibly play without their starting quarterback. That was an inspired effort. I thought Lane Kiffin cook his ass off in that game.

[Bud Elliott]

It was a fun game too. A lot of fun games today.

[Tom Fornelli]

It was. It was a good day of football. Let me see. So who's going to qb? Colorado. Okay.

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know. Like, if you're Kaden Salter and Julian Lewis sitting on the sideline watching that on Friday night, what's running through your mind?

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah, I mean, what the. What my login credentials are to the transfer portal.

[Tom Fornelli]

Portal.

[Bud Elliott]

I mean, I don't know.

[Chip Patterson]

What was that password? Is it saved on my keychain?

[Bud Elliott]

Because like, I'm not trying to dog this kid, but like, that was not a good playing performance. Like he had some okay moments, but just there was it. Yeah. I don't know, it's just odd to me that you go through an entire off season with Kaden Salter and Julian Lewis competing for the job, but then because your third stringer played well for like a half against freaking Delaware, you decide to go to your third stringer to start on the road against Houston in a conference game. It just. I don't know what the hell's going on there.

[Tom Fornelli]

There were some major coaching mismatches that night.

[Chip Patterson]

Wait, are you saying Brent? No, not Brent B.

[Tom Fornelli]

Foster and Willie Fritz versus Dion.

[Chip Patterson]

You asked about an emergency pod for Brent Pry. I mean, it's desean Foster.

[Tom Fornelli]

He may be having an emergency, but we're not doing an emergency pot for ucla.

[Chip Patterson]

The. They're off.

[Tom Fornelli]

It is typically when you would fire somebody because that's what I'm saying.

[Chip Patterson]

I don't, I don't have anything there. There are no sources on that. I'm just saying they are.03. It looks horrendous. And like.

[Tom Fornelli]

Could they go in 12?

[Bud Elliott]

Yes, they can. For sure. I mean, here's. This is not UCLA fans. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the administration. Does UCLA care enough to do anything this early?

[Chip Patterson]

That's what John Wilner said. John. John was like, can Martin Jarman be like, you know, make this move? Sub. Like sub question Do. Does UCLA even care enough to make this move? He's an alum. And does him just being an alum have just enough weight on the scale that they don't care enough to. To make this move right now?

[Tom Fornelli]

Look, obviously they're a broadcast partner, so I'm not suggesting they will, but, like, you kind of gotta wonder, like, like, does the conference say, hey, guys, we cannot be losing by 35 to New Mexico, all right? Like, this is not okay at UCLA. Like, get your act together.

[Chip Patterson]

Did you see the PAC12 retweeting it?

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah. Did you see what happened to the PAC12 today? They should probably worry more about their own teams.

[Tom Fornelli]

The Big sky dunked on.

[Chip Patterson]

The Big sky said, nope.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, but that's my. That's my point. It's funny when the Big sky does it, it's like when the PAC 12 is doing it, it's just like, all.

[Chip Patterson]

Right, guys, Morgan State in Washington State is not doing great either.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, it's like, it's not. UCLA is not the only one that left, guys. You don't seem to be dunking on them.

[Tom Fornelli]

Is Chris Climan in trouble? Yeah, like, when's their bye week? That is.

[Bud Elliott]

Stop scheduling games in Ireland.

[Tom Fornelli]

There were some interesting tweets from, like, people who are associated with that program who then later got delayed or got deleted. I assume they got leaned on to delete them, but it was like, oh, okay. They're essentially like, there's no hope. This is going to get better.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah.

[Tom Fornelli]

So. Oh, climate just got an extension. That's tough.

[Chip Patterson]

That's expensive. Oh, no. You've got moles or. No, not moles. You got voles. That's expensive. Oh, no. Chris climbing just got an extension. That's extent. That's expensive. You're still gonna have to take care of it, but it's going to be expensive.

[Tom Fornelli]

Chris climbing extension when I'm not seeing this. Did he. He got extended?

[Bud Elliott]

I don't know.

[Chip Patterson]

Just. It's. Avery was horrible.

[Bud Elliott]

Agreed 8 year contract in 2023 and then extended by 1 year in November 2024 after the team's winning season. So I'm guessing it's like an auto extension.

[Tom Fornelli]

Got it. Okay. Robbie Callan. Chris climbing buyout.

[Chip Patterson]

Robbie, wake up. I know.

[Tom Fornelli]

Robbie. No results found Asana. Asana.

[Bud Elliott]

Robbie, get your ass up.

[Chip Patterson]

You gotta write another buyout story. Oh, man, it's gotta be.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, no, I forgot that. What. What I wanted to talk about. So we didn't. We talked to me. Lsu. Right. We talked.

[Chip Patterson]

I didn't watch a second of the game. But I had had flagged watching to see what happened if ECU was going to take care of business in Myrtle Beach. And they whooped.

[Bud Elliott]

Oh, they whooped their ass.

[Tom Fornelli]

Oh, yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

But Coastal is.

[Tom Fornelli]

That was a great second half, Biff. Like, it came out kind of slow.

[Chip Patterson]

It's like, all right, but Coastal is not good.

[Tom Fornelli]

No, Coastal's probably bottom 20 in. In the FBS right now.

[Chip Patterson]

And it's the surprising bottom 20 where I don't think the numbers caught up yet on that.

[Tom Fornelli]

Correct. Yeah.

[Chip Patterson]

You know, like, I'm just, well state in it. In a Ball State in a chopper fight with New Hampshire, we all knew Ball State was bad, but, like, Coastal is one of those ones where I'm like, okay, all right.

[Bud Elliott]

Against FBS competition, they're now 02 and have been outscored 86. 7.

[Tom Fornelli]

Southern Miss. Put it on app.

[Chip Patterson]

Yep.

[Bud Elliott]

Yeah, I need Joey Aguilar back.

[Tom Fornelli]

We didn't talk too lame. Did you guys watch this?

[Chip Patterson]

No. Because it was happening in as everything else was happening. It was an 8 o' clock kickoff, and we were trying to get. I mean, we literally went live as the Texas A M win over Notre Dame happened. So, yeah, I've. I didn't get any good looks at that. But Tulane did. They end up winning by double digits.

[Bud Elliott]

They won by seven.

[Chip Patterson]

Okay. Yeah, sorry. Chase in the. In the tailgate. Got to get more screens. There's this. There's this thing called focus. You know, I'm trying to. We're trying to. Trying to get this thing done. Tomorrow's top 20. Oh, my God, Mikey. God. I forget that it's not just the three of us. Mikey needs to get to bed.

[Tom Fornelli]

Yeah.

[Bud Elliott]

Does he?

[Chip Patterson]

Yes.

[Tom Fornelli]

This is what the Monday shows for.

[Chip Patterson]

Yeah. How about the South? How about South Owl?

[Bud Elliott]

They lost.

[Chip Patterson]

Covered that spread. They had a shot to at least make it funny.

[Bud Elliott]

Went out that, like, 10 seconds ago. You're like, oh, poor Mikey. He's got to get to bed. And then you're immediately like, how about South Al?

[Chip Patterson]

So Monday show? Monday. I love this sport, man. I love everybody that hangs out. This was. It was. It was a very, very, very fun day of football. This is. This is good stuff right here. Appreciate everybody for hanging out. You guys absolutely rock. We will, as mentioned, be back on Monday with more of our takeaways from some of the games we didn't get a chance to discuss here. And you can follow him on Twitter at Tom Fradel. You can follow him at Buddh. Elliot 3. Follow me at Chippatterson. Gentlemen. Thank you very much.

[Bud Elliott]

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