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Before Mike, intro the pod. I gotta give your props and not on any accomplishments like you got crazy accomplishments that you've been having. But I'm giving your props on your troll game recently and how you've been clapping back at fans. I want you to like talk about that real quick because we're in the midst of like, we just stuck up for a friend recently and we're starting to get trolls. We've always got trolls, but usually it's our fans that's trolling and they just want attention and shit. Cause they ain't got no dads at home and shit. So like, I wanna know like what goes into your trolling? Name your last trolling process and what went into it. And like what happened?

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The last one was probably It's a nigga who. Like I did, I was doing a feature run and I did a feature in context of this feature, right? I got a bunch in and most of them I usually like only pick the ones I enjoy. But I remember this feature coming through and I told my engineer, I said this shit bad, but I'mma do it because I feel like, you know, I feel like niggas who saying shit like this don't usually get a feature back from artists of this caliber. And I'mma do it cause I was feeling good, you feel me? And I think it was only for like 500. Like I don't need $500, you feel me? And the song was like, not it, right? And I sent it back and he was like, man, this verse off topic, this ain't it, yada yada. So we refunded him. It was like, all right, well whatever. You don't have to have It. And then he went on a whole rant and been posting about me for months. And the other day, I never even seen it or responded, but my cousin sent it to me and was like, what's up with this nigga? So I was like, man, let me just go. And I confident, like, bro, this ain't even. It's not that deep. Like, I didn't have to do it. It was really. And he's been on a social media run from me since. And that was probably my last trolling. But every now and then, I troll lil shit in the comments too. Like, you know, I like asking niggas, is everything okay at home? For some reason, that one send a nigga off the cliff. You ask him, is everything okay at home? They like, motherfucker, no.

Summary

Crash Dummies Podcast | "You Can Burn A Bridge If You Have A Boat" feat. LaRussell

Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Patrick Johnson & Michael Esiobu
Guest: LaRussell

Episode Overview

This episode features independent Bay Area artist LaRussell joining Pat & Mike for a characteristically unfiltered and humorous Crash Dummies session. The trio dives into trolling culture, navigating social media hate, music industry relationships, community building, and candid listener call-ins. True to the Crash Dummies style, the conversation blends life advice, dark humor, hip hop insights, and a community-first ethos, all while keeping it real, irreverent, and rapid-fire.

Main Segments & Key Topics

1. LaRussell's Troll Game & Social Media (00:55–03:15)

Pat gives LaRussell props for how he handles online trolls.
LaRussell describes a recent incident involving a botched feature, a refund, and a fan who became a troll:
"For some reason, that one send a nigga off the cliff. You ask him, is everything okay at home? They like, motherfucker, no." (02:35, LaRussell)
He explains his approach: confidence, not taking things personal, and trolling back with empathy.

2. Rap Life & Celebrity Encounters (04:04–05:15)

Pat and Mike joke about rap life cliches and how even independent artists end up doing "rapper shit"—from rolling up in big trucks to meeting NBA stars.
LaRussell describes meeting Steph Curry after performing for his company:
"I was just in the back chilling on the ground. The nigga walked up, was like, what's up? And I was like, damn, I made it, nigga." (04:46, LaRussell)

3. Controversial Ticket Pricing & Community Response (05:18–06:42)

Discussion about LaRussell's $1,000 birthday show, social media backlash, and who events are truly for.
Notable Moment: "Niggas like, how dare you make your special day the way you want it?" (05:32, LaRussell)
They reflect on entitlement and the difference between critics and real supporters.

4. Building Homegrown Community—The 'Disneyland' Vision (07:03–07:44)

LaRussell shares his dream of making his local vibe into a destination:
"I'm trying my best to like build home to a point where I never have to leave." (07:13, LaRussell)
The conversation turns to why giving back to your hometown is complex, touching on ego and recognition.

5. Battle Rap Styles & Authenticity (08:52–11:31)

The hosts discuss their hypothetical battle rap personas—favoring humor and "funny truth-telling" over gun bars.
LaRussell on battle rap:
"I hate when I watch battle rap...rapping hella gun bars...you're lying. You're lying." (09:32, LaRussell)
Discussion on using real-life material as flips, and why being a "good guy" can be spun as a diss.

6. Collaboration with OGs and Bringing Back Nostalgia (11:43–13:37)

Mike praises LaRussell for rejuvenating attention for classic artists (Juvenile, Bun B, Twista).
LaRussell explains:
"We do social media in a way that the OGs wasn’t using…it’s not like n**as forgot. It’s just they wasn’t present enough..."* (12:18, LaRussell)
The importance of live band, unstructured collaborations in resurfacing real hip hop energy.

7. Advice for Creatives & Music Business Realities (14:09–16:29)

LaRussell talks about sharing knowledge with collaborators, giving artists a new performing experience, and the impact of "Good Company" on Tiny Desk-like formats.

8. AI and Social Media Etiquette (15:28–16:29)

Chat about AI "polishing" IG DMs and whether using AI is just the evolution of autocorrect or a crutch.
"If somebody respond to me in ChatGBT, I mean like they don’t respect you." (16:29, Pat)

9. Virality, Vulnerability & Media Ethics (19:02–22:53)

Discussion about viral podcast moments—whether it’s right to air emotionally intense clips (referencing Kevin McCall and Chris Brown drama).
LaRussell:
"If I'm going through some shit and I break down crying on a set, maybe hold that clip." (20:46, LaRussell)
They unpack responsibility, context, and how internet narratives form around public figures.

10. Making (and Burning) Bridges, Family & Financial Boundaries (24:46–28:44)

LaRussell gets philosophical about relationships in the music industry: "For a nigga like me, I went and got a boat. You hear me? So it wasn’t no problem. N**a learned how to swim and got his own boat." (25:07, LaRussell)
On helping friends/family:
"You really…you can't give a nigga a position they didn’t earn." (23:36, LaRussell)
Ego, entitlement, why independence matters, and why working with friends is both rewarding and fraught.

11. Listener Call-ins: Rapid Fire Hot Takes & Real Talk (37:26–65:48)

Multiple listeners call with questions and spicy takes, with the hosts and LaRussell volleying insults, encouragement, and practical advice.
Notable Callers:
- Bay Area Artists Top 5: LaRussell gives his list off-the-cuff—Messy Marv, Nef the Pharaoh, Young Bari, The Jacka, Mistah F.A.B (39:02–39:45).
- NBA "Racism" Hot Take: One caller misses the "old" NBA; the group laughs, then spins it into a discussion about shifting competitive culture and fan experience.
  "Like the caliber of n**as that used to…how serious it was. We went to All Star Weekend, and…energy and the culture is just, like, not the same." (43:20, LaRussell)
- Jailhouse Rappers: A listener thinks people should stop rapping in jail; the hosts roast him about his "toughness."
  "Do your time, bro. Just do your time, bro." (46:06, Caller)
- Gym & Big Merch: Past caller jokes about weight, asks why only some got a "fat guy" gym membership giveaway. LaRussell shares industry insights:
  "My merch guy reached out to the factory…he was like, yo, we need a 4 and a 5X. And the guy from the factory said, for a human?" (51:47, LaRussell)
- Cheating for Love?: A caller claims, "If you love your girlfriend, cheat on her," which leads to a hilarious, morally dubious back-and-forth, and another confession.
- Michael Jackson Overrated?: Provocative call about MJ being "overrated," leading to heated and absurd debate, and even involving the caller's date.
  "Michael Jackson only popped at 6 years old and stayed on because who else you had to compare that to?" (59:10, Caller)
- Dudes Dancing on Bars: Female caller says men standing on couches and platforms in clubs look corny unless it’s in a section.

12. Shoutouts & Good Company Intros (66:12–68:33)

LaRussell introduces his crew with comedic, over-the-top bios.
Each member gets a quick moment to plug themselves, reinforcing the theme of community and collective success.

Notable Quotes & Moments

LaRussell on growth:
"I took things personal. That burns the bridge…but for a nigga like me, I went and got a boat…N**a learned how to swim and got his own boat." (25:00–25:10)
On community at shows:
"At my shows, you’ll see n**as in the front chopping it up, smoking together—some people who just met that day, we cool now…that’s the kind of community we built." (32:41–33:38, LaRussell)
On OG collabs:
"It’s not like nas forgot, it’s just they wasn’t present enough for n**as to have that recollection. And that shit is dope to me." (12:18, LaRussell)
On social media hate:
"You gotta be so tight in what you do that that don’t bother you…Part of you believe [the hate comment], and you gotta correct yourself: ‘n**a, you on the couch, I’m in the game.’" (29:02–29:45, LaRussell)
On working with friends:
*"The difficulty comes when, like, you want your friends to be involved, and they never really wanted that for themselves…" (26:59–28:10, LaRussell)

Timestamps for Important Segments

Trolling & Social Media Mastery: 00:55–03:15
Meeting Steph Curry & Rap Life: 04:39–05:07
Thousand Dollar Birthday/Community Reaction: 05:18–06:42
Battle Rap Styles: 08:55–11:31
On Collaborating With OGs: 11:43–13:37
Live Shows: Philosophy & Community: 07:03–07:44, 32:40–33:38
Making/Burning Bridges – Life Lessons: 24:46–28:44
Listener Calls (Hot Takes): 37:26–65:48
Good Company Shoutouts: 66:12–68:33

Takeaways & Core Vibes

Authenticity Wins: LaRussell’s journey is about building with intention, moving independently, centering community, and keeping relationships real—whether it means burning a bridge or learning to "swim with your own boat."
Humor as Armor: The hosts and guest constantly use humor to deflect and connect, blending serious topics with lighthearted roast culture.
Community Over Clout: From ticket pricing debates to a vision of bringing the "industry" home, the episode underscores valuing loyal supporters and local infrastructure over industry validation.
Navigating Success & Friendship: Blunt advice about not handing out unearned positions, measuring relationships by effort, and recognizing when friends’ dreams diverge from your own.
Interactive Realness: The listener call-ins capture the spirit of Crash Dummies—untamed, honest, and always evolving with the audience.

Final Word:
This episode is a masterclass in navigating modern hip hop, internet culture, and real relationships—all with LaRussell’s signature blend of candor, empathy, and wit. Whether explaining why some bridges are worth burning, detailing the mechanics of battle rap, or roasting call-in guests, the Crash Dummies crew keep it hilarious and heartfelt, proving sometimes the best way across is to build your own boat.

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You Can Burn A Bridge If You Have A Boat Feat. LaRussell