Creative Pep Talk Episode 474: "The Obstacle is the SwagWAY" with Julian Glander

Release Date: October 9, 2024
Host: Andy J. Pizza
Guest: Julian Glander, 3D Artist and Filmmaker
Podcast Description: Inspiring Stories & Actionable Strategies for Building a Thriving Creative Practice

Introduction

In Episode 474 of Creative Pep Talk, host Andy J. Pizza welcomes Julian Glander, a renowned 3D artist and filmmaker, to discuss his latest project, the feature-length 3D animated film "Boys Go to Jupiter." Andy expresses his long-standing admiration for Julian’s unique aesthetic, characterized by blobby 3D characters, neon color palettes, and vibrant animations.

Andy J. Pizza [00:03]: “On the creative journey, it's easy to get lost. But don't worry, you'll lift off.”

Julian Glander's Creative Journey

Julian shares his evolution from creating GIFs and short animations to directing a full-length animated film. He emphasizes the importance of taking incremental steps and embracing an independent spirit without waiting for external validation or resources.

Julian Glander [09:08]: “I'm in the process of releasing an animated feature film. It's called Boys Go to Jupiter. It's an indie kind of coming-of-age musical sci-fi comedy about a teenage boy in suburban Florida.”

Overcoming Obstacles: The SwagWAY Concept

The episode delves into Julian’s philosophy that obstacles and limitations can serve as powerful catalysts for creativity. He introduces the concept of the "SwagWAY," inspired by Ryan Holiday’s "The Obstacle is the Way," suggesting that challenges can become the driving force behind unique and innovative creative work.

Andy J. Pizza [06:25]: “We also talk about how the obstacle is the swag way, AKA why your limitations or roadblocks can become the best fodder for your creative work.”

Creative Process and Problem-Solving

Julian discusses his adaptive approach to filmmaking, highlighting instances where technical challenges led to creative solutions. For example, rather than investing extensive time in perfecting walk cycles—a traditionally labor-intensive aspect of animation—he opted for characters to float or use whimsical movements, adding a unique charm to the film.

Julian Glander [52:31]: “Instead of trying to cover something up on a technical side, I zoom in on it and sell it as comedy.”

This pragmatic problem-solving not only streamlined production but also enriched the film’s distinct visual style.

Embracing Independent Spirit and Ownership

A significant theme of the conversation is the value of maintaining creative ownership. Julian emphasizes the importance of believing in oneself and pursuing projects independently, thereby preserving the originality and integrity of one’s creative vision.

Andy J. Pizza [06:04]: “Embracing the obstacle is the swag way. It's about how to see those obstacles in your creative story as the fodder for your next breakthrough.”

Collaboration and Community

Julian attributes much of his success to collaborative efforts and supportive relationships. He highlights the significance of working with talented voice actors and producers who share his creative vision, enhancing the overall quality and appeal of the film.

Julian Glander [10:13]: “He's the guy who really kind of inspired me to start doing 3D. So he animated this special sequence within the movie, which is my little way of paying tribute to him.”

Notable Scenes and Cast Insights

The duo reminisces about memorable scenes and contributions from the film’s eclectic cast, including celebrities like Chris Fleming. Julian shares anecdotes about recording sessions that injected humor and spontaneity into the project, underscoring the dynamic interplay between scripted content and improvisation.

Julian Glander [62:09]: “Every single one of them is just, like, so captivating.”

Lessons Learned and Creative Insights

Throughout the episode, Julian imparts valuable lessons on navigating the creative process:

• Treat Projects as Separate Entities: Julian advocates for distinguishing between the creative and marketing aspects of a project, allowing each to be handled without one compromising the other.

  Julian Glander [24:05]: “I think this isn't comprehensive as an answer to your question, but... always treat them as two very separate projects.”

• Utilize Placeholders Creatively: Embracing temporary solutions can lead to unexpected creative breakthroughs.

  Julian Glander [54:40]: “Something that might be a placeholder to you might be someone's favorite thing ever.”

• Leverage Community Support: Engaging with supportive friends and collaborators can provide the necessary encouragement and feedback to overcome creative blocks.

  Julian Glander [29:57]: “Talking it out with my producer and then also with my wife... really motivating for me.”

Creative Call to Adventure: Find a SwagWAY

Concluding the episode, Andy introduces the Creative Call to Adventure: Find a SwagWAY. He encourages listeners to identify and embrace their own obstacles, transforming them into unique creative opportunities.

Andy J. Pizza [70:55]: “Don't pretend like that obstacle, that thing that counts you out... becomes the thing that makes my creative project unique and different.”

Listeners are motivated to view their challenges not as hindrances but as integral elements that can shape and define their creative endeavors.

Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Andy wraps up by highlighting the importance of integrating creative practices into daily habits, fostering a disciplined yet flexible approach to creativity. He underscores the value of community and continuous learning in sustaining a thriving creative practice.

Andy J. Pizza [80:23]: “Just keep this streak going and hopefully it will inspire you to do the same.”

Notable Quotes:

• Julian Glander [07:25]: “It's big content. It's jumbo content.”
• Julian Glander [25:13]: “Leaving it open. We had a script, but even the script changed a lot...”
• Julian Glander [57:29]: “The biggest inspiration... Muppets.”

Conclusion

Episode 474 of Creative Pep Talk offers a deep dive into Julian Glander's innovative approach to filmmaking, underscored by the philosophy of transforming obstacles into creative advantages. Through engaging discussions, practical insights, and heartfelt anecdotes, both Julian and Andy inspire listeners to navigate their own creative journeys with resilience and ingenuity.

For aspiring creatives, this episode serves as a testament to the power of independent spirit, collaborative effort, and the creative potential inherent in every challenge.

Connect with Julian Glander:

• Instagram: @glanderco
• Website: julian glander

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