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A
What the hell goes through your head when you see your comment section? Like, what do you do? Like, I genuinely don't give a shit.
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B
Is Jake Paul the best boxer in the world?
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A
No.
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B
No. Does he sell boxing better than anyone in the world?
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A
That bitch has height on me.
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B
Who are you fighting?
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A
Her name's Lasha Maca.
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B
Like, fighting the motherfucker so you can financially dominate.
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A
They did some horrible ass fucking shit to me, andy. I lost 41 pounds. Congratulations. Yeah.
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B
What's your opinion on GLP once?
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A
I love it. My drive for, like, intimacy has, like, gone down, like, a lot. My name is Ali, I'm 23 years old, and I'm a cert by that.
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B
All right, Ally. Well, thanks for coming. This is the Creators Inc. Podcast and what this is all about. We interview the most viral content creators on the planet, and the goal is that people watching at home might learn something for their own content. That's what's in it for them. We make it all about them. Because in the end, you want it to be all about you. Tell me what's been going on. I hear you got a fight coming up. I want to ask you. I. You know what? I really want to know. You've been always so nice to me. You know, I. I always. I know a very pleasant side of you. We shared the New York Fashion Week moment together, and you've come to the house a lot. But I want to know, like, the evil side of you. I want to know, like, the real finesse side that, like, be, like, fighting the. So you can financially dominate and, like, that nobody knows about. I want to know all that crazy stuff.
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A
All the messiness.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Like, I want to. I want to know, like, the. The offense that nobody knows that you're playing and. Yeah. And the world behind that also. I just want to. I want the audience to hear about where you come from, your upbringing, what high school was like for you and your journey, because I think that's obviously unique and important.
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A
Yeah, absolutely.
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B
So let's start there. You're raised in a traditional Mexican household. You've got three brothers and a sister. That's right. How's your relationship with your siblings?
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A
They're great, honestly. You know, it's crazy. Recently, I did have to set a little bit of boundaries with them where I'm like, okay, I'm your older sibling, not your friend all the time, and I'm going to, you know, be a little hard on you, but I have a really good relationship with, honestly, all my siblings, and we're very Close. And I think, honestly, that's why I haven't left Arizona and, like, with my parents as well.
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B
Do a good relationship with your. With your family.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
Got it.
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A
It took a lot of time to get there, but we're in. I feel like we're all in a really good place right now.
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B
When did you. When did you formally transition?
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A
When I was 9, 18, 19 years old.
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B
Okay, so when you went to high school, you were.
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A
Yeah, I was like, I was still somewhat female presenting, but what I was doing is I would leave home, like, two hours before school started so that I could go to a Starbucks that was close by, and I could do my hair and makeup and then go to school. And then after school, I would go back to Starbucks, wash it all off, put some water in my hair, make myself look male presenting.
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B
Because you didn't want to deal with your parents?
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A
Yeah, just because, like, I, Like, I was raised Catholic and Christian, so, like, I don't want to make it seem like my parents, like, hated me at all, because they definitely loved me. But when it came to the topic of trans and gay, it was like, oh, well, we would accept it, but the church or, like, they would just always have their opinions on it, you know, and it was something that, like, I respect my parents so much, and I, like, I hold my mom and my dad at such a high pedestal, especially my mom. Etiwell people, like, I would hate to disappoint her. So it was always, like, a sign of respect that I think it was when it came to. To female being female presenting in front of them.
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B
You know, I'm. I'm a lot older than you. I'm 43. You're 26? 27.
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A
27.
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B
So I only say that because when I was in high school, people who were transgendered were few and far between back then. It's obviously something that is. Is a lot more. There's. It's much more accepted. It's acceptable now, and. And there's, you know, community and. And pride and things like that, you know, people not having to harbor these feelings inside that you can live the way you want to live. What was high school wise was, were people accepting of you?
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A
You know, I wish I could answer
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B
because high school is a horrible time.
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A
Yeah, I wish I could answer that question and have, like, a formal answer, but I'm. I've always been like this, where. In a sense, where, like, I live in my bubble, where, like, people's opinions, whether if I care or not, don't faze me. And I Think that actually started before high school because I remember in middle school is when I was really bullied a lot. Like I, they did some horrible ass fucking shit to me. Like, I think the worst thing that I can think of was like I had gym class obviously, and I needed to passed to go to high school so I would work out with the girls, but I would have to go change with the boys. So I remember there was a, it was at the time in like 2012, 2013, when like the combat boots were like becoming a thing. I mean, my parents buy me these like $350 fucking combat boots. And what brand? I don't even remember honestly, but I just remember them being really expensive. And at the time, like we like we weren't. My parents weren't like rich, but like they lived a paycheck to paycheck lifestyle and then whatever was left over, like they would spend it on us and stuff like that. So we would get like every once in a while we would like my, my siblings and I would get like a luxury. And so yeah, I remember I was changing out in gym class and I put my boots and I put my sneakers on and when I came back to change out, my boots were in the toilet and like vandalized and like they just wrote like faggot and like all kinds of shit all over them.
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B
And yeah, yeah, middle school and high school is a hard time. Yeah, kids are rough.
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A
Yeah, it was really bad.
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B
High school was a hard time for me.
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A
Yeah, high school, like I said, once I got to high school, I think because of the fact that I was like already so going through a lot between the ages between sixth to eighth grade. I think when I got to high school, I learned really quickly to live in my bubble. And that for me, my bubble is comfortable. I don't really care necessarily to make friends or anything like that. Like, I had a really good head on my shoulders at a really young age.
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B
Do you find people saying to you a lot like, Allie, how are you so mentally strong?
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A
Yes, actually. And it's crazy because I get that's the number one, I guess compliment that I do get is like, how do you deal with it? What are you like, what the fuck goes through your head when you see your comment section? Like, what do you do? How do you come? Like, it's cause I. And it's not. I hate to be like, oh no, I don't care what anybody says, but that's really the reality of it. Like, I genuinely don't give a shit because I went through so much with my family and, you know, my personal family life. Like, I went through my. Not just myself, but my family as well. We went through so much stuff growing up until I decided to move out when I was 18 years old that, like, the. I feel like I went. I got my. My trials were then, and, like, I don't look at this as a trial. I look at this. If anything is like, as much as I would, let's be praised. You know, 90% of the. By 90% of the people watching me, I know that's not the reality, but at the end of the day, it's so rewarding because guess what? I'm still being watched.
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B
Yeah. And I gotta be honest, it's. It's. It's a beautiful, respectful, admirable thing. I'm glazing right now.
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A
Thank you.
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B
But that you live the life you want to live, because I know so many people who are so affected and shaped by their comment section, and it's pretty. It's pathetic. I mean, it's. It's a real thing. You know, we all. We all care and we all get feedback from what other people say. Have you ever given someone advice that's come out of your mouth and you said, damn, that was some good advice in the. In that sense? Like, what could you tell people out there that definitely feel like they're constricted by other people's opinions?
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A
I think, for me, the best advice is. I think the advice that I gave myself when I decided to transition was I'm not gonna look back at the time that I have right now and regret the decisions I made based off other people's opinions. And that's whether, if it comes to social media, career the way you choose to live. You know, I genuinely am a person who believes, like, as long as you're not hurting yourself or the people around you with malice or bad intention or just in a negative space, then do whatever the hell that makes you happy. Like, you're not gonna. Like, how sad would it be if I'm 40 years old and I'm like, you know what? Like, I spent my early twenties, in my late teens, like, trying to mold my life into what other people wanted. For me, that's not the way to live. You know, God only puts us here on earth one time, you know, and it's up to us to do what we can with it and to make the most out of it. And I think that's the best advice that I've given myself. And then I hope other people, even if it's by seeing my comment section or seeing what I post or anything like that. And sometimes my posts can be a little bit trolly and, like, I definitely play into it, but I hope overall that's just a message that people take away from me.
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B
I admire that so much about you that you do play into it. I say it all the time, you know, and you're doing a boxing match coming up, so I'll bring up Jake Paul. Is Jake Paul the best boxer in the world?
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A
No.
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B
No. Is he the best? Does he sell boxing better than anyone in the world? Yeah, you. So leaning into it is great. And you are an inspiration. You really are. And I know that for a fact, because, yes, you're viral, you're unique looking, you're recognizable. Everybody knows you're great for the algorithmic engagement. But when we did New York Fashion Weekend, I've been and I've thrown probably a dozen fashion shows between Miami, Los Angeles, the desert of Coachella, New York, of course. When you came out at New York Fashion Week, that room erupted because you owned that moment. That was your moment to walk the Runway, and the whole room went fucking bananas.
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A
Can I just say I want to cry every time I think about that, because every. Every time I get asked like, oh, what's the peak thing in your career that you think you've ever done? I always say New York Fashion Week just because I come from a place where, like, stuff like that doesn't seem attainable. Do you know what I mean? And when I just remember that feeling, and I had brought my cousin with me. You met her, Jen. Like, we had such a pinch me moment where it's like there's. It's almost, like, impossible still to even wrap my head around that I did that. And it's something like that genuinely, like, took balls. Not that. Yeah. And you. I remember you asked me, like, four times, are you okay, Ali? Are you okay? And I'm like, I had an anxiety, but it wasn't an anxiety of, like, where I was, like, sad or coming from a place of negativity. It was like there was just no way that, like, God, and, like, you know, put you in my life in a way where it's like, you were able to give me that opportunity because never in a million years, Andy, did I ever think I would be able to walk New York Fashion Week, let alone even. Just to even be there and then to be able to walk in it and participate in a show that is still so successful.
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B
We're going back this year. Yes, we've been nominated for an award by New York Fashion Week.
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A
That's so exciting.
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B
And we'll be doing it again, if you'd like to come. This year's theme, it's evening swim. So swimwear, but kind of looks more like night. Like lingerie. Yeah. So it's gonna be an interesting show. So you'll see the details for that. Let's talk about this boxing match. How'd that come. Oh, first of wait, I have one more question for you. Your government name given Ray, right?
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A
Yeah, it's Raymondo.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah.
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B
When do you remember when you decided
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A
your my girl name?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. So.
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B
And where did Ali come from?
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A
So when I was younger, I was obsessed with the movie Hocus Pocus. And I had the biggest crush on the guy Max, who plays the. The guy in there. And there's a girl in there named Allison. And I remember, like, oh, my God, like, my name's gonna be Alison, so, like, Max can like me. And so that name always, like, stuck since I was, like, for as long as I can remember. And then I remember when I wanted to transition and everything like that. And it was like, time for me to, like, do I wanna change my name? Do I wanna whatever? Like, no, I'm gonna pick Ali. So, yeah, that's how. That's how Elyson came about.
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B
Got it. Okay. Yeah. Talk to me about boxing. Let's go. Yeah. Promote your fight.
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A
Yeah. So boxing came about in a really interesting way. So I've been. Me and Brand Risk and Aiden have been trying to get me on the card for a minute. Like, I'm talking, like, almost two years since Aiden first launched Brand Risk. But the thing that. That always stops me is the commission, because I'm gonna be so honest. I'm not a fighter. Like, I. I know I'm probably gonna walk into this fight and get my ass whooped. Like, if I'm gonna be honest, like, that bitch has height on me.
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B
Who are you fighting?
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A
Her name's La Shamaca. She's a Mexican influencer named Mocio Sonora. She's so sweet and she does such great things for herself as well. But she has height on me, so, like, I know I'm probably gonna get my ass whipped.
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B
And reach.
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A
What's that?
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B
Reach?
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A
Oh, yeah, like. Oh, like how she can hit?
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B
No, reach. And boxing is a stat that matters. It's your wingspan. So if. If we both extend our arms, you know, and. And I can punch you before you can punch me. I have a reach advantage, right?
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A
Yeah, I think she has reach.
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B
Well, let's look into that.
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A
Yeah, I'll show you the. I'll show you her account right now.
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B
But it means that she can punch you from further away and you have to be closer to land a punch.
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A
Yeah, I think that's what it is. She has. She has reach. So, like, even if I'm far, she can probably still strike a good hit. But, yeah, no. So I did a. The way that that fight came about was I did a podcast with another Mexican influencer. His name is Chat. She's fucking hilarious. And they had already had this boxing thing in the work, and they were like, hey, like, this would actually be really content. And I was like, you know what? Like, I've been wanting to get back into Mexican reality TV because I did a show last year that was so successful and did amazing over there and did numbers. Just with my appearance on there, which I didn't even think was. Because I'm not really well known over there. I said and think that I was. It did incredible. So I was like, oh, I want to do something like that again. Whether if it's with the same people or a different show, it's still something I want to dip my toes into. So I took the. I. I took that as like, oh, well, if I do this fight, then it's gonna reach a whole new audience. So that's definitely, like. That's just how I read to it. And, yeah, I'm not going in there to, like, whip her ass, but I'm definitely gonna go in there to, like, defend myself.
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B
You getting a good check?
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A
Um. It's okay. Yeah, it's okay.
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B
So. So growth is more of a motivator than the cash.
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A
Yes. For that specific event. Yes.
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B
Are you training cardio?
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A
Yes. So I. Oh, my God. Andy. I lost 41 pounds. Congratulations. Yeah. And since I started in January, you look great. Yeah, I'm like. I. I noticed it more so in, like, my physical aspect.
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B
What's. What's your opinion on GLP ones?
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A
I love it.
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B
Oh, you're taking Ozempic or Retta or any.
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A
Which one are you taking? I was on Tirzepatide.
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B
Okay.
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A
In January, and then I switched over to Retta, like, around late May. I didn't really like it. I just didn't like it. So I'm going back on Tricypetide. But that the GLP1s, like, changed, like, a lot for me. So when I have anxiety or when I freak the fuck out, like, I'm a binge eater or like, if I have, like, my Thing is binging.
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B
Right.
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A
So with the GLP1 I just feel like it helped me out so much. Like I like it's crazy because I can. Isn't it sounds so stupid to like simple people, but like being a big bitch, like I'm comfortable, whatever I'm, I'm comfortable in my, in my confidence. But I noticed when I started losing the weight, especially like a month ago, I'm like getting in my car without fucking huffing and puffing. I'm able to walk a little bit more without like feeling I need an inhaler. Like just being a little bit more active and proactive and not. But getting so tired. And I think that's when I was like, okay, wait, I'm actually onto something.
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B
When did you start that?
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A
The JALQY one? Yeah, I started. Technically I started in November, but I started taking consistently in January.
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B
And you take one shot a week? Two shots a week?
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A
One shot a week.
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B
Okay, so and right now you like tide how many units a week?
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A
Right now I'm at 25. Okay. Yeah.
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B
I mean in, in that like that, that kills hunger completely or, or enough that you can kind of like not make bad decisions.
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A
Yeah. For me, I think what killed the hunger part was because when I did try like binge eating one upping on the shot, I did get really sick. So. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to walk around with food poisoning.
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B
And like I have friends, I have female friends under 200 pounds, FYI that are taking 70 unit searchers appetite a week.
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A
That's crazy.
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B
But that, that's, that's a normal dose for them.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So 25, you know, I think you're in a good space. But you know, if you feel like it, obviously like you still have room to go up. But again, like I think, you know, Bohus in this chair here, we talk all the time like we should both be doing red eye. And he said, well we can do it on our own. And then I catch him with Rice Krispie treats all the time. And I said, you just won't be so stressed reaching for it. Like it's just like, like, like you said, like when you go to bed, I do it too. I'll tell you my, my kind of anxiety thing. I've been in so many hotel rooms where I've taken an, like an anxious or a stressed or like an intense phone call. Maybe it's a legal thing, maybe it's a fight with somebody. Before I even know it, I've eaten the whole entire Mini bar. Happens to me all the time. Like, I'll munch all the cashews, the p. M. M's, and, like, kind of black out to the point where, like, I won't even remember having done it. Like, it's not like I'm sitting there enjoying it. Like, it's just, like, a nervous thing.
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A
Yeah, I noticed. I want to have a conversation with someone. I'll, like, pick it up and then just, like, munch and, like, talk without even realizing, like, how much I'm actually eating.
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B
Well, I mean, they're. They're. Obviously. I'm not saying anything you don't know, but there's that pleasure center. Any other kind of. They say that those GLP ones can help people not drink as much, not gamble, kind of anything that gives you big dopamine spikes. Have you noticed any other cravings that have been tapered down because of it?
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A
Not that I can think of. This might be an overshare, but technically, I guess I've been technically celibate. Not on purpose. But, yeah, like, since I started, like, my drive for, like, intimacy has, like, gone down, like, a lot. But, yeah, that's really all that I can think of other than food. And then, like, I will say, like, as far as, like, was it when
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B
you became Ally, Were you ever, like, a, like, overtly horny person or. Not really.
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A
Do you know what's so. So I wouldn't say, like, horny, but I would say, like, because I was, like, a late bloomer. I waited till I was, like, almost 20. That was, like, virginity. So, like, when it came to, like, experimenting with guys, I was like, oh, wait, I'm gonna have all the fun in the world. And not to say, like, I have crazy bodies on me, but, yeah, I definitely had my fun.
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B
Well, since you became famous, do you have, like, a lot of. I mean, is it easy to meet people?
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A
I feel like it's harder. I feel like it's a lot harder. I feel like now it's annoying, if I'm being honest. And I think that's what plays into the lack of intimacy, especially this year,
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B
because there's no sneaky links. You're recognizable.
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A
Yeah. And not only that, but I feel like a lot of the guys who have approached me, it's always with a motive, and I pick that up right away.
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B
What's their motive?
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A
Trying to gain something out of me.
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B
Like, what?
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A
So I surround myself, obviously, like, with a lot of streamers, and they're great to work with, you know, And I'm not trying to shit on the guys who. Who do this or whatever. But I feel like they kind of think that, like, by attaching themselves to me, that I'm going to bring them along, like, right away for the ride, you know, and that they're going to be able to meet all these people and which. Which, like I said, that's not something that I'd ever be opposed to if I ever choose to have a partner. Like, of course I'd have my. I'd love to have my partner around me, but it becomes noticeable right away when that's the first thing that they jump to. And I think that's what.
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B
Okay, I got it. So people who. So people who kind of like come into your life front, like, it's like a genuine relationship, you are realizing, like, it's a clout thing.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, they're doing it for their own clout. Got it.
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A
And I don't even know if I don't want to say, like.
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B
Like Shoddy Bay's first boyfriend with the guy with the braces. That guy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, okay.
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A
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, you know, no shade to Shoddy Bay, you know, but I. I feel like I'm. I'm very. I can pick up what a person's, like, vibe is very. Yeah, very fucking quickly. And like, I very. I make a decision that's, like, right away. Like, do I want to surround myself with this person? Yes or no. And I'm very quick with judgment, so. But yeah, I think that's another thing that's also stopped me from, like, dating as well.
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B
Have you ever had, like, like, very rich people who you fit their, like, kink, throw crazy, like, financial offers at you?
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A
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I've definitely had my fair shares of daddies who switched.
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B
Well, I know Aiden bought you a bag and Steve bought you a car. Or did I get that vice versa?
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A
No, you got it right.
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B
Okay. Aiden bought the bag, Steve bought the car. Oh, man. If Aiden's buying Birkin bags, then, you know, you'd think he was be. The check for Brand risk would be. Would be. Right.
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A
Honestly, the check for brand risk is, like, insane. So that's why, like, I've always been like, oh, my God, let me f. Like, let's do everything we can to get me to fight, and it never works out. But yeah, I'd like to say I think I'm the only girl Aiden's ever bought a Birkin for. But, yeah, it's. I love my Birkin. She's in a safe at home.
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B
How do you like the Range Rover.
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A
It's cute. You don't know. Fun fact about me knows I don't drive. Okay. So like, actually I did.
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B
I actually did know that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So who drives the Range Rover, Jen?
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A
My mom.
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B
Oh, your mom drives it?
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A
Yeah, my mom drives it. I kind of like, she, like she lives with me. So like I was like, here, mom, like it's basically yours and like if you ever, if I ever need it, like, it's there. And I heard the stars aligned with the. Oh, what the. Yeah, I actually need to tell you the story of how that, how that, how I got my car actually. It's actually insane.
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B
Tell me the story about how you got your car.
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A
Yeah, so it's. I'm gonna try to cut it down as much as I can, but. So it all started with Steiny. Steiny had been hitting me up for like a minute to not surprising. Yeah. To like do a collab. And I ended up doing a podcast with him and Bradley, I believe. And they were like, I guess they really liked me. And within two days they were like, hey, we're flying you out to Miami.
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B
You haven't done a lot of podcasts. That was one that I watched. Were you Bradley and Steinie? Anyway, keep going.
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A
Yeah. So they're like, hey, we need you in Miami. I'm like, okay, like, can I give you pass you to Jen really quick just so she can get everything figured out? So they got in contact with Jen and then Jen was like, hey, we're going to Miami but you're not getting paid. But you're going. You're getting on that fucking plane. And I was like, well, I don't. Like why, like why am I going to go if I'm not going to get money? Like, because at the time I didn't have really brand deals or I didn't have. I wasn't making income a whole lot off of social media. So I'm like, why am I going if I'm not going to make money? That sounds ridiculous. And she's like, no, bitch. Like you're getting on that fucking plane. Like call your job. Cause at the time I was working at T Mobile and Metro PCs. Okay, and were you good at that job? Yeah, it was the easiest job. Okay. Yeah, I can talk anybody into buying anything. Okay. And I was like, okay. So they didn't end up giving me the days off work. So I just called out. Anyways, so long story short, I. It's the day of the stream, I'm in Miami, I wake up and it's With Steve, mind you, I didn't know who Steve was at the time because, I mean, I really only. And I still, to this day, like, I only felt of the baddies for their tricks and the daddies for the tricks. Like, that's the way that I look at it. And so I didn't know who Steve was. And I remember he took me. I met him. He was super sweet, really nice. He first he took me jewelry shopping, and then I was like, okay. Like, what the fuck? Because I didn't have any idea what we were doing that day. Then from jewelry shopping, we went to Booby Trap. And I was like, oh, this shit's fun. Like, I like it. Like, cool. We're leaving Booby Trap, and he pulls out a Mini Cooper. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I was fucking happy about the Mini Cooper. I'm like, what do you mean? He bought me a fucking car. Like, it was a little tiny red Mini Cooper. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is such a cute little Barbie car. Like, I love it so much. Like, it's a cute Mini Cooper. Like, I love cars. And mind you, like, somebody's buying me a fucking car. Like, I don't give a shit what kind of car it is. And then I remember, you're like, I'll
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B
sell it and get 30 racks. Anyway.
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A
I wish I still have my car, too. But I remember I was getting ready to get in the Mini Cooper, and he was like, you really like it? And I was like, yeah, I love it. And he's like, I was just fucking with you. He's like, look over there. And the fucking pink Range Rover comes out. And I'm like, there's no fucking way. Like, my jaw was on the fucking floor.
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B
Wow.
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A
When I seen that, like, I think the thing that I can compare it to is, like, you know when you
- [25:15]
B
see, like, nobody tricks, like, Steve. Yeah, Steve really. Like, I mean, like, he spends.
- [25:20]
A
He goes all. And I still talk to him till this day. He's like, he's so nice. Actually, I'm wearing the watch he got me still.
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B
Like, I said, nice. Beautiful.
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A
Yeah. I love her so much. Much. Every. All the gifts that Steve gave me, I still have them till this day. And I take it really well, carry them. But I just remember that day like, it was crazy. And I think I. I always triple how it would have never happened had I finally agreed to do the podcast with Sonny. And that's what, like, trips me out, like, the way everything aligned with that.
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B
But I'm guessing Jen. They told Jen, hey, don't you.
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A
Everything.
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B
Yeah, of course.
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A
Yeah. Jenny.
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B
Which is why she was like, get on the flight. And in the back of your head, you probably knew something was up. I mean. I mean, Jen's about her business, you know, so, like, you guys run a great business. So the end of the day, I'm. I would think that somewhere in your subconscious, you were like, I knew it
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A
was going to be good.
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B
Or was she just pitching you for your overall image, likeness, growth as a creator?
- [26:14]
A
You got to get on there. That's what I was under the impression of, like, I was under the impression of, like, okay, me. It's something that she thinks is good for me, that something I need to do. Like, it's probably like a podcast or a stream, another stream. Just. I didn't. I knew it was going to be good in that aspect as far as, like, growth. And that's what I had kind of resorted to when she first told me we were going to Emmy. But I never thought it was going to be the growth. And then all of the gifts, the
- [26:39]
B
gifts of it all remind me something. Actually, don't remind me. Educate me. Were you relatively unknown before the whatever podcast? Was that like your. Was that like the big kind of like, viral moment I want?
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A
That was the biggest one. So prior to the whatever podcast I had did, I was on TikTok, and I would upload maybe like once every, like, four or five months, and I would average up maybe like a 300k view per video, but it wasn't anything crazy. And then I was going live, and I was. I remember right before. This is like, literally right before the whatever podcast, I would go live before getting ready to go hang on my friends, and I would just do my makeup, and I would rack in views anywhere from like 5,000 to, like 35,000 a night. So I was getting a lot of traction on TikTok Live, and then every. My lives ended up getting, like, clipped, and then it just kind of spirals from there. And then the whatever podcast hit me up. And mind you, like, I've. I've never been contacted at that point by anybody to do anything. So I didn't do my research prior to going on that podcast. And then when I get there, it's like a red pill, like on women podcast, and I'm like, oh, this is what I'm walking into. Like, what the do I do? I end up looking at my mom, and my mom's like, just take an edible. Take an edible. So I took an edible Mind you, I don't condone drugs or at all, but like, I'll happen sometimes. And I remember just like kind of being like high off my ass for a second. And then like they. What do you know? It comes to me, it's my turn to speak, and it goes, what's your name? Agent? Occupation? And I'm like, my name is Allie. I'm 23 years old and I'm a certified bad bitch.
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B
And that moment got clipped and went nuts.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And actually when you said, I'm Ali, I'm a certified bad bitch, you are high as a kite out of this planet stoned.
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A
Yeah, I wasn't like, like blitzed. Yeah. I wasn't like crazy, but I had a. I took a decent dosage. So they're like, can you repeat that again? Mind you, it's a table full of like one side is all men for like all right wing. Like you know, like traditional or trad men, allegedly. And then all sides girls. And then like, you can only imagine their reaction when I said that, because that shit wasn't planned. I literally like, I was just chilling right then I said, my name is Ali. I'm 23 years old. I'm a certified bad bitch. Can you repeat that? I said it again. Can you repeat that one more time? Why can you not hear like, okay, I'll say it again. And I said it a third time. And then I remember, like right after the fucking podcast ended, I had an old Twitter account or an X account. And I remember seeing that shit like fucking like blow like wildfire and that like, I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, what's going on? Like your viral moment. Yeah, that was my viral moment. And yeah, within a week though, I kind of had to make a decision after that podcast where there was like, I'm either going to sit here and cry like a bitch about everything that's saying everybody's saying about me, or like, I can use it to my advantage. And I feel like I did a really good job using it to my advantage.
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B
You've killed it.
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A
Yeah. I mean, it's almost three years later, so. And I'm here.
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B
Would you ever sit down with Brian Atlas again? Or is that chapter closed?
- [29:43]
A
I think the chapter's closed. I did go back the like exactly a year. It was like a one year anniversary after the podcast just cause like to kind of like see what it gives still. And then like also cause it was like, it was the one year after I blew up. But I think thinking now I kind of really didn't need to do that. And it's, I'm not shading him, I don't hold, hold any resentment towards him or anything like that whatsoever. But I think I'm grateful for the platform. I feel like I wouldn't have brought me to where I am right now without that viral moment. I, I, I, I feel like if I say like him I didn't need it, that would be wrong of me. But as far as like going back, the chapter is closed completely.
- [30:29]
B
Do you ever call out any companies that basically pretend to be plus size or trans inclusion? Like do you spot, do you spot these brands or people that basically are just renting that stance for a campaign cycle?
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A
I personally have never done it or
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B
actually, you know, it sounds like more. What fits into that question is the people who like you say come into your life that are, you know, trying to gain from the clout and that's their real motivation.
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A
That's their, I feel like that's, I'm going to be so honest, I feel like that's almost a lot of people's motivation. But I also have to make a grown up decision or a well thought out decision as well with me and Jen included where it's like, is this something that's going to benefit me if not equal than more than, you know, like, than the company itself. So that's definitely something that I have to ask myself because I feel like a lot of people, a lot of the companies that I have been approached by, they don't care that I'm trans. Like that's the least of that's the last fucking thing that they ask me. It's comes down to like, oh well we know you're going to bring in numbers, so what's up? I don't feel like I can genuinely say this wholeheartedly. I don't feel like there's a company out there who really gives a shit.
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B
Was the biggest brand deal you've ever got a casino deal?
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A
Yeah, I have to say it was casino deals. I was actually just recently I worked with a duel and they, they cashed me out.
- [31:52]
B
Damn.
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A
Like it was when I seen that number that was like my fucking heart
- [31:59]
B
fell to my, that's like per month, per reel.
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A
It was for, it was my six month thrill, the six month contract that I have with them and then the live stream I did with them all together and when I seen that number
- [32:12]
B
like wait, that's not the team in Romania is it? Or no Armenia.
- [32:16]
A
Then they were in Armenia, now they're in Estonia.
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B
Did you go over there?
- [32:21]
A
I did. I was actually just there a couple weeks ago.
- [32:23]
B
No shit. So. And by the way, so a lot of these, a list people who secretly actually want to get with you, are they. Are they messaging you on Instagram or are they afraid of screenshots? Like, will they. How will. How will some of these celebrities who want to talk to you and basically they're in the closet and they actually want to get with you, how will they communicate with you? Where they think that it's like they're not going to get outed, so where they feel safe that you're not going to out them?
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A
Well, I've never outed anybody, so just because one, I feel like that's not my business and I do believe in karma and I feel like if I were to do that, I'd get bad karma. But two, I've always gotten DMed through vanish mode on their end and. Or they'll have someone else DM me that'll connect me to them.
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B
Interesting.
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A
Yeah. So. Or it's. I'm assuming it's them and it's just they're hiding behind an account. Um, but yeah, those are the two ways that I've gotten approached so far. I think the reason too, I think it weirds me out though, is because it always ends up turning into like a fucking fetish thing. And I don't like that. Maybe when I was younger I was probably okay with some shit like that because I was like, just having fun, but now I'm just like. It kind of. It like bugs me a little bit.
- [33:30]
B
How aggressive is the shit talking gonna be with the, with the girl you're boxing? Like, is she. Is she gonna say some out of pocket shit?
- [33:38]
A
Oh, yeah, absolutely. She already did. Like, I seen the clip already and. But I also, I feel like I started it though, kind of because I didn't. I didn't see like some aggressive talking shit, but I basically said in Spanish, like, I'm gonna show you, like, how a boss handles business. And like, I'm saying that like, we're. Because the fight's obviously happening where she's from, so it's like she has to stand her ground too.
- [33:59]
B
I love it. Yeah. Good stuff. Do you feel any emotional feeling if someone calls you Gorlok, or does that not bother you at all?
- [34:05]
A
You know, I will say the name Gorluck. It doesn't. I don't like it. But at the same time, I'm not oblivious to the fact that that name brought me to where I am Today.
- [34:17]
B
Have you ever pulled someone aside and said, like, by the way, like, that's not my name?
- [34:21]
A
Oh, yeah, all the time. But I'm very clear. I'm not. I don't take offense to it, but, like, for example, I think I'm. No, I don't know if it was you or somebody. You're. They're like, oh, hi, bro. I'm like, oh, hi. Like, my name is Ali.
- [34:33]
B
Yeah, I guess that's also because Internet culture, like, we forget that people discover. If you're a content creator, people discover you for the. There's many people who first. For the first time they've ever seen you is just today, like, no matter. On any different platform you're on. And I think that's, like, one of the most interesting things about content creators. I mean, like, you saw some of these early TikTok fuck boys become country musician stars on, like, other platforms. And Mia Khalifa sold bikini pictures on OnlyFans only because she was so big on TikTok, much of her following had no idea she was ever a porn star. And you can be whoever you want to be on any platform. And people are discovering you for the first time. And some people probably don't even know your name is Ali.
- [35:19]
A
Yeah, no, a lot of people don't. They just go by Corlock, you know, And I can't be mad at them for it because I, like, I take part.
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B
You hear a really funny story.
- [35:26]
A
Yes.
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B
One time we were in Miami. Do you know who? Obviously, you know White Dolomite, right?
- [35:30]
A
Yes.
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B
So Dolomite calls us one day, and he goes, I'm going to meet up with Lil Wayne tonight. And I was like, that's a big deal, man. That's crazy. And so Will gets his clothes on. Will was staying with me at my apartment. Gets his clothes on. It's 2 in the morning. He goes downtown, 50 minutes to meet up with Will. And Will text me. He goes, it wasn't Lil Wayne, it's Al Weezy. It's still one of the funniest things we laugh about.
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A
He told me that story, too, one time. I was like, there's no way. And I remember when I showed up to. When I met Dolomite that day, he was like, what the fuck is. Like, this is that little way.
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B
Were you doing skits with Jay before whatever or after whatever?
- [36:14]
A
After whatever. Yeah, Yeah.
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B
I feel like you and Jay definitely have, like, a great thing going with your skits.
- [36:20]
A
He is like, I don't even know how to explain, like, how much I adore him and Amariah.
- [36:24]
B
Yeah.
- [36:24]
A
Like, they are just some of the most, like, selfless, like, caring, like, just real, genuine, authentic, like, good people. And I am so, like, happy for them. Then they just recently engaged as well.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, I. I don't even know how to explain, like, how much did they ever open a cat cafe they were going to? I don't know if they ever did or if it's still in the works, but I remember them talking to me about it.
- [36:50]
B
Yeah. So, Ali, like, when you. When you look 10, 20, 30 years down the horizon, any vision of what you want your life to look like? Do you want to have a partner and children? Is that really not something like you want? Like, what's.
- [37:06]
A
Honestly, I would like a partner and children. I feel like that's everybody's. But I think the overall picture that I crave is stability, but not only for myself, but for the people around me, especially my really close loved ones. I think that's the overall goal is what I crave for the people who have been such an important part of my life.
- [37:30]
B
Do you know what I think would be a great idea for you? And again, this is just me giving unwarranted advice. I think that, well, I interact with so many content creators who have the amount of confidence like you do in your pinky, in their whole body. They're so weak, they're so scared. You know, perfect looking people, oh, my God, I couldn't do that because someone's gonna call me a whore or something like that. And like, then they don't do something that might benefit them because they're afraid of what someone might say in their comments. I think that you would have a killer podcast. And I think that when you hosted a podcast, people would just get so inspired talking to you because they would look at you and realize, like, damn, like, I should be. I shouldn't be such a fucking pussy. Like, I need to actually just live my life in, like, yolo. I think you would have a really great podcast because I think guests would be, like, really excited to interact with you.
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A
Yeah. And I feel like I get that a lot of people with any conversation I have with somebody, and they're like, I feel like I. Everybody always tells me, like, you bring such a comfort when I have a conversation with you. Like, it's almost like a very safe and warm space.
- [38:36]
B
Well, you brought up karma, right? Karma's not magic. It's not like, well, if I do. If I do bad to this person, you know, God is gonna fuck me up. Da, da. Da. I mean, it's really simple. If you're a shitty person, nobody wants to be around you, or nobody wants to be around, Nobody wants to fuck with you. Nobody's going to bring you good things. When you're truly a great person, you're a magnet, and you are truly a great person. Those of you who know people who know you, like myself, like, know you are a great person. And you, I think, I mean, I watch you walk through lots of doors for the first time and then have people congregate around you and like, just you. You know how to treat people. You have it. You have it. You have a really good knack for emotional intelligence.
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A
Thank you. And you know what's so crazy is that it's so crazy you bring that up, because I have people asking me all the time, how the fudge do these, like, these male streamers or these big male influencers. Why do they always want to be around you? Like, I feel like they would. Like, people like them wouldn't even think to have someone like you around them. And I'm like, I think it's because I'm actually a fudgeing nice person. And they're like, well, anytime. Always shits on, like, trans people or whatever the fuck. Or he'll be trans, jokes, whatever. I'm like, it's because, well, one, I don't revolve my whole identity around me being trans as much as I love. And I'm proud of a part of myself, I don't do that. But I think, too, they're able to look past that and they're able to see that there's a fucking person inside of me. Like, there's someone who has feelings and emotions and morals and whatever the hell it may be, and they're able to look past that. And I feel like that's what. What I'm very proud of, that I've been able to do for myself and I'm able. I've been able to break those barriers, you know, not because, oh, my God, I'm the first trans woman to really pop off in streaming or I'm the first trans woman to, you know, be in these specific spaces. I don't think it's because of that, which I'm very proud of as well. It's because of the kind of person that I am. And that's something that I'm very proud of. And I'm very thankful to my parents and the people who helped raise me to instill those morals inside of me.
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B
Yeah. And I'm proud of you too. Because I've been doing this for seven years, and when I'm done, I'll have memories. And you are one of the very specific, unique, rewarding, and just deeply meaningful relationships that I've gotten to have through meeting so many creators. And that's truly because you're an inspirational person.
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A
Thank you so much.
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B
And you're a good person, and I really appreciate you showing up for me today.
- [41:06]
A
Thank you. No, I was like three hours late. But thank you so much again for even, like, sitting down with me as well and, like, still bringing me in. I had a. This is a really good conversation.
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B
Okay, one last thing I want to talk about. You've done very well in cameo. Yeah. So believe it or not, on Buzzstar, we see that people are offering you up to $2,000 for a one minute phone call. Yes. You know, Bo Peeps got to kind of show you the way that works. But people are willing to talk to you for a one minute FaceTime phone call for $2,000. Now, I don't know if they want a clip or something like that, but it's just. But it's just very interesting that, I mean, your demand. Let's just annualize that. One second, hold on. If you were to make $2,000aminute for a year, I think it's going to break my calculator. Your annual run rate on Buzzstar. Let's see, there's 60 minutes in an hour times 24, times 365, which is so that there's 525,600 minutes in a year times 2,000. Your annual run rate on Buzzstar, assuming you made that every minute for one year, would be $1 billion. $1.05. $1 billion.
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A
That is insane.
- [42:17]
B
And so one of the reasons Buzzstar is so attractive for someone like you is that we see content creators as landowners with lots of oil beneath their feet. And so when Duel comes or someone else comes and say, we'll give you five grand to play chicken cross or hold this energy drink, and we'll give you five grand. Creators think they're getting paid, but actually leasing their oil rights. The reason why people who did OnlyFans made so much money was because they were tapping into their audience directly. There was no other entrepreneur deciding how much money that they could pay you for a post. And so that's. I'm excited to see how you do on buzzstar, but it's another great growth tool for content creators because your fans feel like they can actually access you. And it's great to give back to your fans and interact with them. The other thing that you can do it whenever, whenever it's very, it's an interface that you can, if you know, since you don't drive when you're getting driven somewhere, you can bust out half a dozen phone calls and make a couple racks. It's, it's something that we're very hopeful mainstream content creators like yourself will start to integrate into their life as a means to monetize their profession.
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A
Yeah, I remember when I first heard about buzztar and I was like, oh, this is actually really sick because especially. And I. What I liked about it is that compared to cameo, you're not put on a timer of when you need to take the call. It's on your time. And I think that's what I really enjoyed about it.
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B
I'll tell you even one more interesting thing. When you do cameo, you're kind of clowning, you're like, happy birthday, Sarah. Happy birthday. Well, welcome to the real estate conference. Like whatever the fuck it is, right?
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A
Yeah, I had some weird requests like
- [43:57]
B
that on Buzz Star. When the fans start to realize that you might post these phone calls, they actually clown for you. So you're sitting back, you're taking these one minute phone call. If the fans extend, you get paid 150% and these fans start fucking trying to do backflips hoping like you'll be so impressed by them that you might post that call. If it's not like a family. Just saying. I'm so proud of you. I'm so. Listen, I've gone down a tangent, but I just have to say you are truly an inspiration. You really are. You are a beacon of confidence. I don't even have to tell you, keep living, keep shining, because I know that's exactly what you're going to do. But it is really amazing not just how much you're personally profiting, benefiting, but all the people. I know that you're inspiring.
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A
Yeah, thank you so much and I
- [44:44]
B
really appreciate it and that's an amazing, amazing thing.
- [44:46]
A
Thank you, Ali.
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B
All right, Ali.