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Happy Friday, crime junkies. I feel like someone down at the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office might have listened to our most recent episode. Or maybe the timing is just a crazy coincidence, but a couple of hours ago this Friday, the Sheriff's office finally fulfilled our records request and got us the audio from Dave and Laura Sweetman's domestic violence incident. And I want to do something a little out of the ordinary. While this episode is still top of mind for everyone, I want to share it with you. There are three things that you're going to be hearing and I'm going to pop in between each. First, I'm going to play for you sound from the body cam footage of a deputy responding to Laura's call that she made to the sheriff's office. Then I'm gonna play you the entire audio file that she turned over to them of the incident that she was reporting. This is the almost hour and a half long recording she has of her and Dave inside their house when she says he refused to let her leave. And then I'm gonna play you some audio from when the deputy arrested and questioned Dave. This audio answers so many questions and brings up a million more. And I think for those of you who have been in a volatile or abusive relationship, this audio is going to hit home in a hard way. But it is important to hear because these are some of Laura's last recorded words before she died later the same year that this was reported. So first, here is the deputy's interaction with Laura. It has been edited for clarity.

Dave Sweetman (1:55)

Hello?

Deputy / Police Officer (1:56)

Who's Laura? I'm just gonna tell her where my kids are so that somebody knows. How are you? I'm okay. Not injured or anything? No. Okay. Do they want me to start from scrat? So recently I discovered that my husband has another family. And so over the past few weeks, I've gotten ready to get divorced. And he was out of town this weekend, so I moved my things out of the house. And then he was with two of the kids. So when he got back, I took. I told him I was taking the kids to Walmart really quick. And I just took the kids to a friend's house and I went back to tell him that I was leaving. But while I was gone, he must have figured that out and see enough that enough things were missing from the house. He wasn't inside, so. And I was looking for him, so I decided to try to leave. And so I had my car, like parked ready to go out on the street because I knew, I knew there was going to Be an altercation with him because that's his mode of action. But I ran into him like when I was coming out the garage door. And he grabbed me by the shirt and shoved me back in the house. And the shirt that you have on. And so then he proceeded to argue for about an hour and 20 minutes. And I tried to get out of the house three times and he grabbed onto my neck. Do you have any marks? I don't have any marks on him, no. And then he had made threats during the conversation that neither of us was getting out of this alive. That he would kill me, he would kill himself. He did retract that. He would kill me and only kill himself. Yeah, like you said. And I have recorded this because I knew this was going to happen, that he had a gun upstairs. Have you seen any weapons? Yeah, I've seen three weapons. What kind of weapons are there? There's a, like a gun that looks probably like a 9 millimeter or something. A silver one. I looked for it yesterday so I could get rid of it, but I couldn't find it. Okay, there's a shotgun, but that isn't load. It's probably not even out the box are loaded.

Summary

Crime Junkie Podcast - "UPDATE: Laura Sweetman"

Host: Ashley Flowers (Audiochuck)
Date: April 18, 2026

Episode Overview

In this gripping special update, Ashley Flowers shares newly-released audio directly connected to the domestic violence investigation of Laura Sweetman—a haunting case that has perplexed listeners since its original airing. The Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, prompted by public interest and recent requests, provides the pivotal bodycam footage, Laura’s own chilling audio recording from the night in question, and Dave Sweetman’s interview with deputies. This episode immerses listeners in the unfiltered reality of a domestic situation that escalated with tragic finality later the same year, offering both answers and countless new questions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction & Structure of the Audio (00:00-01:55)

Ashley Flowers begins with news that the Sheriff’s Office has just released requested records, including bodycam audio and Laura’s recording from the incident.
The episode is divided into three parts:
1. Bodycam audio of deputy's first response to Laura.
2. Laura’s full (edited) recording of the altercation with Dave.
3. The deputy’s arrest and questioning of Dave.

2. Bodycam: Deputy’s Initial Response to Laura (01:55-09:00)

Laura’s Account of Events:
- Discovered Dave had another family; began readying for divorce (02:00).
- Removed belongings while Dave was away, then returned to inform him she was leaving.
- On attempting to leave, Dave allegedly grabbed her by the shirt and neck, forced her back into the house, and held her for over an hour (03:45).
- Laura reports threats from Dave: "Neither of us was getting out of this alive. That he would kill me, he would kill himself. He did retract that. He would kill me and only kill himself." (03:55)
- She had the foresight to record the entire encounter (06:38).
- Laura says Dave has guns in the house and is “very angry and he doesn’t back down” (07:37).
- She expresses fear for her own life, and for what could happen upon the deputy’s arrival.
- Laura discusses Dave’s affair, the hidden child, and patterns of controlling, abusive behavior.
Significance:
Direct, emotional, and explicitly fearful, Laura’s words frame the subsequent audio and establish the depth of danger she perceived.

3. Laura’s Full Recording of the Domestic Incident (09:35-79:44)

Note: Only select moments and exchanges are denoted in this summary due to length; content covers the core topics, tone, and escalation.

Themes and Dynamics

Emotional Turmoil & Manipulation:
- Dave oscillates between desperate pleas, confessions, and manipulative threats of self-harm ("You want me to shoot myself in the head right now?... If you want me to kill myself, just say so, and I'll do it now." 25:20–25:57).
- Laura repeatedly states her need to leave for her safety and mental health: “I don't love you anymore, David. I can't. I'm your friend.” (17:33–17:35)
- Dave alternates between promises to change and guilt-tripping Laura for “destroying the family.”
Physical and Psychological Control:
- Laura accuses Dave of physically restraining her: "You’re putting your hands on my neck and you’re dragging me in the house three times." (20:03–20:07)
- Dave admits to withholding car keys and to not letting her leave at moments, though later minimizes these actions.
Financial Conflicts:
- Laura details severe financial strain: “I have nothing. I have this house, which is a noose around my neck... I have my children, and I have my job, and I just try to put my feet every day and lay in my bed.” (28:01–28:23)
- Disputes arise over money given to Dave’s mistress and their shared debt.
The Affair and Hidden Child:
- Laura confronts Dave about his "other family," and the pain this duplicity and ongoing deceit have caused her.
- Dave blames circumstances but also admits to an affair and the existence of another child (30:01–30:10).
Patterns of Abuse & Classic Red Flags:
- Gaslighting: Dave describes Laura’s attempts to leave as “destroying” the family despite her clear safety concerns.
- Love-bombing, apologies, and promises to change abound, followed by veiled threats about custody and self-harm.
- Minimization: "Mistakes have been made, but they were mistakes... I'm not perfect... I'm not leading a double life." (27:23–27:30)
Children as Leverage:
- Dave is obsessed with the custody of the children: "If it takes me doing something crazy, I'll do it. Because you know I'm capable of it." (78:45–78:54)
- Laura tries to focus on children’s welfare, but Dave frames any separation as an unforgivable act.
Notable Emotional Moments:
- Laura describes her self-esteem plummeting, the weight of being gaslighted, and feeling "like the biggest fucking loser on the planet" (31:28–31:32).
- Both make references to prior mental health crises (Laura’s heart attack; Dave’s drinking and depression).

Representative Quotes:

Laura, making her need clear:
- “Can you just let me go?” (11:49)
- "I think you have the potential to be a great dad. You are a great dad. You need to be a dad to that kid. But you have never been a good husband." (46:26–46:33)
Dave’s escalating threats and manipulation:
- "If you want me to kill myself, just say so, and I'll do it now. And I'm not joking. I've got a gun upstairs. I'll kill myself. Will that make you happy?" (25:44–25:58)
- "I am not gonna go for that one. A lot of things will happen before my kids will be taken from me, Laura." (78:32–78:54)
Laura’s despair and resolve:
- "For the first time in my life, I cannot live knowing that you have a kid with her. And then you... You take my... My stuff and you give it to her. It's a sickness, David. It's sick." (16:44–16:58)

Key Timestamps for Memorable Segments:

Laura tries and pleads for help as Dave physically restrains her: (19:21–20:07)
Laura’s statements about her inability to continue, referencing suicidal thoughts and despair: (15:18–15:25)
Dave’s threats of self-harm and refusal to let Laura leave: (25:20–25:58; 78:45–78:54)
Financial and infidelity confrontation: (28:00–32:01)

4. Deputy’s Conversation with Dave Sweetman (Bodycam, After Arrest) (80:19–101:04)

Dave’s Denials & Revisions:
- Denies choking Laura or physically restraining her: “I didn't choke her. I didn't touch her." (81:05–81:07)
- Minimizes threats but acknowledges saying things in emotional distress, including threats of self-harm, but not of violence against Laura ("I may have said something. It's completely possible. I don't think I did." 96:43–97:09).
- Admits to taking Laura’s car keys to prevent her from leaving—says it was so they could "talk."
Officer’s Cautious Approach:
- Explains increased police presence due to Laura's report of threats and weapons.
- "You’ve got to do your job. I’d rather be here with a bunch of cops and nothing happened than be here by myself." (83:15)
- Deputy keeps the family court/criminal investigation distinctions clear; notes that allegations alone are not a conviction.
Disclosure of Additional Context:
- Dave confirms extra guns at home and office, discusses prior arrests (relating to a road rage incident).
- Reflects on the impact of the evening, hints that he feels “set up” by Laura’s actions.

5. Host’s Analysis & Open Questions (101:04–end)

Ashley Flowers’ Takeaways:
- The audio "answers so many questions and brings up a million more" (00:55).
- Neither the police report nor speculation could capture the depth of Laura’s fear and the complexity of their relationship as heard in her own words.
- Raises investigative leads:
  - What fire was Laura referencing in connection with Dave’s business? (Laura: “What about the fire?” 57:14)
  - Details about the alleged $400,000 tax debt and insurance money Dave expected.
  - The LLC Laura referenced, involving Dave’s mistress and possibly the children’s names.
Ashley’s Call to the Crime Junkie Community:
- Solicits information/tips about the fire, the tax/insurance issues, and LLC connections for further investigation.
- "Just because the episode ends does not mean our reporting stops" (host, closing).

Notable Quotes & Moments

On the impact of hearing Laura's last recorded words:
- Host: "These are some of Laura’s last recorded words before she died later the same year that this was reported. So first, here is the deputy’s interaction with Laura. It has been edited for clarity." (00:55)
On control and escalation:
- Dave Sweetman: “If it takes me doing something crazy, I'll do it. Because you know I'm capable of it. And you know I love my children.” (78:45–78:54)
On lived experience of abuse:
- Laura Sweetman: “You can’t do this to me. I’m already self-destructing as a person because of all the problems… Fix yourself and come back the person you used to be.” (20:13–20:25)
Host’s reflection on importance of the audio:
- Host: “To hear it in her own words. It’s hard to overstate how important this was.” (101:04)

Thematic Summary & Tone

Raw and Intimate: The episode forgoes narration in favor of letting Laura and Dave’s direct words illustrate the turbulence, fear, and emotional manipulation at play, allowing listeners to grasp nuances often missing from police reports or secondhand summary.
Empathetic & Investigative: Ashley’s approach is both compassionate toward victims of domestic violence and indefatigable in her pursuit of investigative threads, calling for crowd-sourced leads.
Chillingly Real: For those familiar with domestic violence dynamics, the episode is deeply unsettling and validating—showcasing classic signs of manipulation, escalation, and the immense, often invisible, pressure placed on survivors.

Summary Timeline:

00:00–09:00: Deputy’s interview with Laura (her story, context, and warning signs)
09:35–79:44: The nearly unbroken, real-time struggle between Laura and Dave—emotional, physical, financial, and psychological
80:19–101:04: Deputy’s interview with Dave during/after arrest—his narrative, denials, justifications, and self-presentation
101:04–end: Host's reflections, open investigative questions, and call to action

For Listeners Seeking Key Moments

Laura’s initial disclosure of violence and fear: 03:40–06:38
Direct confrontation of affair/child: 11:28–14:00; 30:01–31:00
Threats and escalation ("I'll kill myself"/“I’m not gonna let you take my kids"): 25:44–25:58; 78:45–78:54
Dave’s minimization and denial to police: 81:05–84:44
Host’s analytic recap and call for tips: 101:04–end

If you can never get enough true crime, Crime Junkie brings you directly into the heart of not just criminal events, but the real, complicated lives affected—inviting the community to help solve what remains unknowable.

For further information, episode tips, or to contribute to the ongoing investigation, listeners are invited to contact the Crime Junkie team at tips@audiochuck.com.

UPDATE: Laura Sweetman