BRITNEY SPEARS "VANISHES" AS CHARGES SWIRL

Summary

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Episode: BRITNEY SPEARS "VANISHES" AS CHARGES SWIRL

Date: November 13, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline
Host: Nancy Grace

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Episode Overview

In this gripping episode, Nancy Grace investigates the sudden disappearance of pop icon Britney Spears from social media amid swirling criminal charges and renewed public concern for her well-being. Nancy and her panel of experts—ranging from PR professionals and psychologists to legal analysts and tabloid columnists—discuss the pattern of volatility in Britney’s life, the exploitation by those around her, possible mental health crises, and the societal obsession with her every move. As speculation intensifies due to recent erratic behaviors, dangerous driving incidents, and the release of a tell-all book by ex-husband Kevin Federline, Nancy asks the tough questions: Is Britney spiraling into crisis, and is there a point where intervention becomes not just necessary, but urgent?

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Britney’s Disappearance from Social Media (02:36–04:28)

• Britney went radio silent: Britney deleted her Instagram, cutting off her primary communication channel not only with fans but with family and friends as well. This abrupt silence has sparked widespread fear for her safety.

  • “Britney Spears seemingly dropping off the face of the earth.” —Nancy Grace, 03:44

• Psych analysis of ‘social disappearance’:

  • Dr. Bethany Marshall explains that for child stars, the camera and social media replace traditional relationships, forming the core of their self-identity. A disappearance from these platforms can indicate deep mental distress or manic episodes.
    • “Our first sense of self in life is what we see reflected in the eyes of our mothers... Child actors and child musicians, the camera is their mother.” —Dr. Bethany Marshall, 05:32

2. Possible Manic Episode or Mental Health Crisis (04:28–05:32)

• Signs of mania:
  • Dr. Marshall speculates (without direct knowledge) the sudden silence may be symptomatic of a manic episode: impulsivity, erratic behavior, lack of insight, and subsequent crash.
    • “People who are in a manic episode love to travel... Once they hit that crash, they really crash.” —Dr. Bethany Marshall, 04:28

3. PR Manipulation, Isolation, and the Role of Social Media (07:05–09:37)

• The myth of Britney:
  • Rob Shooter (PR Guru) alleges that “unvarnished Britney” is finally visible now that she is no longer sheltered by a record label.
    • “Britney hasn’t changed. The truth has come out. She’s always been that girl dancing... without the polish of a record label.” —Rob Shooter, 07:46
  • Britney has few to no genuine friends; all communication is through social media.
    • “Everybody around Britney was on the payroll... Nobody around her for the reasons of friendship.” —Rob Shooter, 09:37

4. Dangerous Behaviors & Public Perception (12:32–14:56)

• Erratic public behavior:

  • Nancy describes Britney’s recent documented incidents: erratic driving after drinking, dancing with knives, social media rants, and her sudden withdrawal.
  • Kennedy (DailyMail.com) and Nancy debate the role of Kevin Federline and public sympathy for Britney, scrutinizing the timing of his tell-all book’s release with the end of his child support.

• Victim vs. Responsibility:

  • Kennedy points out Kevin did step in to raise the kids when Britney was “mentally unfit” and yet public vitriol is directed at Federline for supposedly exploiting her.
    • “He raised those kids... he did what any father should do.” —Kennedy, 13:49

5. Pattern of Exploitative Relationships (16:01–19:27)

• A series of ‘leeches’:

  • People around Britney, from Justin Timberlake to Sam Asghari, are accused of exploiting her fame and fortune.
    • “None of these people looked after Britney Spears... Britney has gone from bad guy to bad guy to bad guy.” —Rob Shooter, 17:42–19:11

• Celebrity isolation:

  • The panel agrees her lack of a real support system has made her a target for users and opportunists.

6. Mental Illness and Personal Accountability (21:15–24:13)

• How much can blame be assigned to external factors?

  • Kennedy notes, “it’s not just about the men,” acknowledging Britney’s documented mental illness but calls for her to take more responsibility for her own actions and seek stable care.
    • “This is a woman who has been famous for almost 30 years now... At some point she has to... be the one making better decisions.” —Kennedy, 22:05

• Impact on children:

  • Her sons have distanced themselves due to Britney’s unstable behavior. Kennedy warns: “Something needs to be done before she gets hurt. Or... she hurts someone else.” (23:27)

7. Reckless Driving — Legal and Social Ramifications (29:38–38:06)

• Caught on video:

  • Nancy insists the evidence is clear and charges for reckless driving can and should be brought. She draws comparisons to other celebrity cases, like Justin Timberlake’s widely criticized DUI.

• The conservatorship dilemma:

  • The panel debates whether extreme measures like conservatorship were too harsh, but now the absence of oversight could have tragic consequences.
    • “We wanted her out of the conservatorship... Now it’s all going straight to H E double L.” —Nancy Grace, 43:11

8. Britney’s Finances and the Question: Where Did It All Go? (49:03–51:05)

• Squandered fortune:

  • Britney is said to have burned through $61 million, with bizarre expenditures and no clear nest egg remaining.
  • Rob Shooter: “She should be worth hundreds of millions of dollars... None of that money appears to be with Britney.” —50:08

• Mental health and spending:

  • Dr. Marshall discusses how bipolar illness or substance abuse can trigger compulsive spending, and that celebrities raised like Britney are conditioned to give away their resources, leaving them vulnerable.

9. Legal Perspective: Building a Case (52:16–55:26)

• Could she really be charged?
  • Ashley Wardlaw (PI) and Elizabeth McInterf (Guardianship Lawyer) confirm that while a DUI case would be hard to prove without blood tests, there is sufficient evidence for reckless driving charges based on video, navigation data, and eyewitnesses.
  • McInterf also asserts that reckless driving alone is more a red flag than proof that guardianship is needed.

10. Responsibility & Next Steps (55:43–end)

• Public vs. private consequences:

  • Alina Shirazi (DailyMail.com) sums up: Britney successfully fought for her freedom, but responsibility and consequences now fall solely on her.
    • “She lobbied and advocated for her freedom... but that comes, of course, at the cost of responsibility.” —Alina Shirazi, 55:43

• Nancy's call to action:

  • As charges swirl and the public waits, the episode ends with Nancy reiterating concern for public safety and the hope that intervention will happen before tragedy strikes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Social Media Disappearance as Red Flag:

  • “We often start the criminal timeline when they go silent on social media. No wonder everybody’s worried sick about Britney Spears.”
    —Nancy Grace [10:51]

• Self-Image & Child Stardom:

  • “The camera consolidates their sense of self. Their self esteem rises and falls on the smiles and frowns of others... herself is what she’s putting forward in the camera.”
    —Dr. Bethany Marshall [05:32]

• On Patterns of Exploitation:

  • “Every man that comes into her life is a blood sucking parasite—and that’s putting it mildly.”
    —Nancy Grace [09:08]

  • “None of these people looked after Britney Spears. Part of the reason you are in a relationship is to be kind, to love, to inspire. Britney has gone from bad guy to bad guy.”
    —Rob Shooter [17:42]

• Accountability vs. Sympathy:

  • “It’s time to admit the truth about this public menace. Now how long can we blame bad men?... At some point she has to... be the one making better decisions.”
    —Kennedy [22:05]

• Driving Danger and Consequences:

  • “If she’s swerving around... she could hit a busload of kids... Is it really appropriate for us to look back and say, ‘we should have done something differently?’”
    —Kennedy [29:38]

• The Conservatorship Pendulum:

  • “The conservatorship was too harsh, too restrictive... But now... the pendulum has gone too far the other way.”
    —Nancy Grace [30:37]

• Where Did the Fortune Go?:

  • “She has blown through a million... She should be worth hundreds of millions... None of that money appears to be with Britney... we need to investigate that.”
    —Rob Shooter [50:08]

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Timestamps for Crucial Segments

• Britney’s disappearance from Instagram: 02:36–04:28
• Dr. Marshall on social media & self-identity: 05:32–06:10
• Rob Shooter on PR and lack of real friends: 07:05–09:37
• Dangerous driving and social media timeline: 12:32–14:56, 29:38–31:53
• Kennedy’s call for accountability: 22:05–24:13, 33:54–35:14
• Pattern of exploitative men and relationships: 16:01–19:27
• Finances & possible financial abuse: 49:03–51:05
• Legal analysis of reckless driving case: 52:16–55:26
• Britney’s brief Instagram reappearance: 45:39–47:47
• Final thoughts & responsibilities: 55:43–end

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Tone and Final Thoughts

True to Nancy Grace’s style, the episode is relentless, urgent, and combative—critically examining not only Britney’s responsibility, but the complicity of those around her, the media, and the public’s voyeuristic fascination. The panel urges for immediate intervention, legal accountability, and above all, a reframing of Britney Spears not as an entertainment spectacle, but as an at-risk individual whose next chapter could be tragic if something is not done.

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For listeners:
This episode delves far beyond headlines, exposing the deep personal, psychological, and societal currents swirling around Britney Spears’ latest crisis. If you care about the intersection of celebrity, mental health, and the justice system, this is a must-listen.

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[Nancy Grace]

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Breaking news tonight, Britney Spears vanishes as criminal charges swirl. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us. Right now. I'm concerned about Britney Spears.

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

Her ex husband has just released a book about his life with her.

[Nancy Grace]

He knows how fragile she is and put this book out anyway. He's just looking for another payday. Is she spiraling out of control? Is there another conservatorship on the horizon? Now the public worried that Britney Spears vanishes.

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

Listen, when Britney suddenly deletes her Instagram, she cuts ties with everyone she regularly communicates with and that has those close to Spears very concerned. Insiders say Spears communicates using Instagram and social media not just to interact with fans, but it's how family and friends keep up with her as well. Now that she's gone Instagram silent, friends and family have no way of knowing how she is or where she is.

[Nancy Grace]

Britney Spears seemingly dropping off the face of the earth. But out to renowned psych analyst Dr. Bethany Marshall joining us out of Britney Spears jurisdiction in California. You can see her now on Peacock. She's the author of Deal Breaker and you can find her at Dr.bethany marshall.com Dr. Bethany Marshall, she seemingly lives on social like there's no life outside of social. So when she drops off the map off insta, I mean I think a lot of people have a guilty pleasure, a prurient interest in watching her bizarre insta twirls and videos that we see pop up. She goes radio silent. Why?

[Dr. Bethany Marshall (Psych Analyst)]

You know what I would wonder if she was my patient and again, I've never treated her, I have not evaluated her is if she's in some kind of what we would call a manic episode. And in mania there's excessive goal directed activity, drug use, hypersexuality, impulsivity and most notoriously, lack of insight into what is happening to them. People who are in a manic episode love to travel, they love to go places. And the beginning of the mania feels great because they feel on top of the world. But once they hit that crash, they really crash. And she could have become so disoriented she was unable to even access her insta or a good friend got a hold of her and turned it off for her for a week.

[Nancy Grace]

I'm curious what you mean by that, all of that psycho discussion. What does it mean when someone's only life is on social media that that has to mean something? I mean I'm Just a trial lawyer, Bethany. That's why I'm asking you, what does that mean?

[Dr. Bethany Marshall (Psych Analyst)]

Our first sense of self in life is what we see reflected in the eyes of our mothers.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Okay?

[Dr. Bethany Marshall (Psych Analyst)]

We smile. The mother smiles back. We know we smiled. Child actors and child musicians, the camera is their mother. Okay? The camera consolidates their sense of self. Their self esteem rises and falls on the smiles and frowns of others. So herself is what she's putting forward in the camera. She may not feel that she has another self, but this is a socially created self which we all have. We just have it with people in our lives. She has it with her camera.

[Nancy Grace]

You know, speaking of people with prurient interests in Britney Spears, they don't listen to some of her music, but they love to watch those videos that my control room is obviously obsessed with. That's all they show. They never show her with her children when she's out doing Mommy and Me or any. Oh, there you go. Do you think you can dig up one picture of her control room where she's fully clothed?

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

The vanishing act from Instagram causes Spears fans to grow concerned for her well being. As the weeks leading up to the silence was filled with social media rants and furious posts calling out her ex K fed for humiliating her. Through his memoir, Spears is then captured driving dangerously, crossing the center line, going on the shoulder and tailgating. A little more chaos, then silence deletes her Instagram friends and fans alike concerned.

[Nancy Grace]

Straight out to Rob Shooter. He is a PR guru that worked for years for Sean Combs. I guess you had to hold your nose during all that time. But has worked with Britney Spears and has spent a lot of around her. His brand new novel has just hit Amazon. It's awesome. It started with a whisper. Only you could come up with that. He's [e-mail] Rob Sheeter why are her only friends on Insta and why has she pulled a vanishing act? What did you observe with her when you weren't around her to somehow justify this?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Yeah, for the Britney Spears that we're seeing today is the Britney Spears who has always existed. The difference was 10, 20 years ago there was a myth about her being a very different person, much more buttoned up, much more together. That was really put out by her record label. Now that that label has gone away, we're not seeing a different Britney. This is a really key point here. Britney hasn't changed. The truth has come out. She's always been that girl that was seeing their dancing and without the polish of a record label, a powerful company. We get to see the truth. So this is unvarnished Britney Spears, this is who she has always been about her friends. Nancy, she's never had friends. She became famous at a very early age and she learned to dance and sing, but she didn't learn how to make friends. She has almost nobody in the business. I know for years now Brittany has been communicating with people through DMs, through social media. If you look at her phone, she does not have any phone numbers in that phone. She has apps to social media and that's how she communicates. This isn't new.

[Nancy Grace]

You know, I'm very curious. You've been around so many celebrities and really, really big stars in her world, how can she even make friends? Of course I, I started to say how is that even relevant to the fact that she is endangering the public by driving over the double line or dancing with knives and so, so, so much more. But the reality is she doesn't have friends in her position. How do you make friends and how can you trust him? Every man that comes into her life is a blood sucking parasite and that's putting it mildly. Did you observe this while you were working around her? Yeah.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Everybody around Britney was on the payroll. Everybody around her was earning a living from her. There was nobody around her for the reasons of friendship, because she was funny or witty or kind or smart. They were there because she is the cash cow. She makes tens of millions of dollars. Listen, it's really hard to make friends when you leave school later on in life, it's difficult to make friends. Add on top of that her power, her fame, her wealth, her. It's almost impossible. A lot of us, Nancy, we make friends at work. After we leave school or university, we get a job. Britney's job has ended. She has not worked in a long time. And when she did have a job, everybody around her was there for the wrong reasons. They were there to make money, not to make friends.

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

Kevin Federline's tell all you thought you knew is exposing a lack of closeness in Spears in her circle as she appears to have no one to share what she's thinking or feeling regarding the accusations being thrust on her. The source said Instagram is all she has left and Spears talks to followers more than her family or friends. Ever since the conservatorship ended, Spears has used social media and in some ways as a substitute for in person support.

[Nancy Grace]

Straight out to Dave Mack, crime stories investigative reporter Dave Mack. Sadly, you and I have investigated and covered. I can't even count the number of cases where when someone goes radio silent on social, it's never a good thing. In fact, very often that starts a criminal timeline when someone, typically a woman, sometimes a man, I mean, we've covered them. People that got lost driving and end up dead, people that have been murdered, people that have been kidnapped. We often start the timeline when they go silent on social media. No wonder everybody's worried sick about Britney Spears.

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

You're exactly right, Nancy. It's amazing. How many times will we see that abrupt change of what is normally expected. And in this particular case, Nancy, it was even more severe because as the book was getting pushed, you know, leaking different parts of it, she was responding and she was responding aggressively and defending herself on a multi multiple times a day. And it was like she's still defending, defending, defending and then all of a sudden it's over. And that's what really got people thinking that maybe she had been pushed as far as she could take. The rubber band was stretched as far as it could possibly go and it snapped because there was no forewarning, there was no hey, I'm going to take a break for a couple of days. There was nothing. And as we mentioned, since this is her major form of communication with fans, with family and friends as well as fans, this was not just an abrupt stop, it was holy mackerel, where is Brittany? We got to see her to see what's going on.

[Nancy Grace]

So Britney Spears vanishes, seemingly vanishes. This is after the restaurant incident where she was apparently drinking again and unsteady on her feet as she was being led out, gets in her car and takes off, veering all over the road. And of course after this incident, all the haters came out, many of them supporting her leech of a husband, Kevin Federline.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Listen, do you know that you don't.

[Nancy Grace]

Have to like Kevin Federline to acknowledge.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

That what he's saying is true?

[Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile Ad)]

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[Nancy Grace]

Guy and think that he's a lazy.

[Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile Ad)]

Unemployed leech of a human being. Is he out of child support and needs money?

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

Maybe?

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Did his kids come to him concerned about their mother's health?

[Nancy Grace]

It's just time to wake up to reality, people. You know, that is from aw shum on TikTok. Is he forgetting about the millions of dollars federal line is going to make from his tell all book? How's that helping his children to drag their mother through the mud just to make money coincidentally when his child support stops. And it's not just awesome On Tick Tock there are more people piling on.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

But he raised those kids like we all can agree that she did not have the mental capacity to raise those kids in a like a healthy, happy environment. And he managed to do that. So I don't understand why there's so much hate and vitriol towards him and, and he got all this money in child support.

[Nancy Grace]

Well yeah, he should have.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

He had custody of the kid really.

[Nancy Grace]

Erica Lynn on TikTok he did what any father should do, what any parents should do, raise his children. So why do people hate him? Because he's a blood sucking leech, that's why. I mean straight out to Alina Shiraza joining us. Senior political reporter dailymail.com Alina thank you for being with us. Alina in my world you have to look at timing. Only when his child support ended he was making between 40 and 80 thousand dollars a month off just sucking the money out of Britney Spears did he come out with his tell all book. And now everybody's online piling on supporting him and anti Britney.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Yeah, I mean the timing you always say Nancy, timing, timing, timing. Now all of a sudden the child support payments have ended and KFAD is coming out with this book you thought you knew. To be fair, he did have an NDA against him but he had a lot of time right to come out and say Britney Spears was not a good mother. In his memoir he talks about certain things that Britney Spears did. He said that she would call when she was with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan drunk. He said that she bleached the kids hair and they came back with burns, that she was watching them in their sleep. He goes on to talk about a lot of different things. You know, she even said that when she was doing drugs, so on and so forth. But she can't help but think this man is going to get a lot of money from this. And right now it's kind of like the Johnny Depp Amber Heard situation where it's like suddenly people are switching over to the other side and it's like you have to think about both sides to every story. Where are all of the free Britney movement fans right now? A lot of people coming out and supporting him.

[Nancy Grace]

And it's certainly interesting to see Federline, Federline, Federline. Brittany disappears and all anyone's talking about is Kevin Federline. He certainly has not been the only pig at the trough.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Rob Shooter it started with Justin Timberlake when she was a really young teenager in the music business. They were Coming up in the business together, he certainly sold a lot of records. His biggest solo hit, Cry Me a River, was about Britney. So it started with Justin, and then the list went on and on. Let me give you some names. Wade Robson. Remember him? He was a choreographer. Hooked up with me. He went on afterwards.

[Nancy Grace]

Wade Robinson. Hold on, I'm gonna have to do a flowchart. And not in a good way. Wade who?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Wade Robson. R, O B, S O N. Robson.

[Nancy Grace]

Okay.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

He went on to accuse Michael Jackson of molesting him. So he's quite a character. Fred Durst. Remember Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit? There was a while, but he was with Jared Leto. Another creepy guy in Hollywood who has been with Britney Spears. Colin Farrell. Remember when she dated Colin Farrell for a really short time?

[Nancy Grace]

Wait a minute, Shooter, I did not ask you. Britney's dating history. To put it nicely. I'm asking you about men that sucked her dry and used up all of her fame and money. What was the last one you said?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

I think we did Colin Farrell.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Less.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

But let me just say, Nancy, all these guys that date here.

[Nancy Grace]

Colin Farrell does not need her money or fame. Don't throw him in that pot to Steve, for Pete's sake. You're the PR guru. Makes sense, man.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

None of these people looked after Britney Spears. Part of the reason you were in a relationship with someone is to be kind to them, to love them, to inspire them. Britney has gone from bad guy to bad guy to bad Brian. Let me tell you another one that I think you'll agree with. Jason Alexander. That's the first guy that she married. Remember Vegas? It was 24 hours. Her team rushed out. It was a no. Pretty fast.

[Nancy Grace]

What a cheater. Do you not believe in love? He apparently loved her for at least 24 hours. Okay, go ahead with 24 hours.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

A childhood friend. So maybe on this list he might be the one that actually did. Who else is on the list, too? Oh, remember Adam Galib? He was a photographer that took pictures of Adam Galib.

[Nancy Grace]

Yeah, I do. I do remember that name.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

British guy.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

He took photographs.

[Nancy Grace]

What about him?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

When she shaved her head. And then he moved in with her during that really difficult time when she left her children. Jason Tarwick is an interesting name. Jason was her agent who went on to date.

[Nancy Grace]

I remember him. He actually had a job, didn't he?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

He did have a job, but his job was making money from her. He was her agent. So people are saying that's a little dubious, too. Also too. Let's see who else we have on the lift, Sam Asghari, the gentleman she married, the model, Sam Asghari.

[Nancy Grace]

I would not call him a gentleman. I don't know where you Brits think a gentleman is, but it ain't him.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

And so this is a long list of people, maybe not gentlemen. Nancy, I'll take your point. People who have been around Britney Spears who haven't necessarily.

[Nancy Grace]

What about the last husband? What about the last husband?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Sam Asghari is his name. He was the fitness model who was with her for a couple of years. They had a very odd wedding where apparently Britney's friends turned up Madonna, Selena Gomez, Paris Hilton. My reporting has revealed that none of these people are in her life anymore. She's clearly crying out for help. Where are those famous friends? Where are the friends that turned up for the wedding? For the, for the good times? They're not there for the bad.

[Nancy Grace]

I would say out of the entire bunch, all of them, except I disagree with you about Colin Farrell. Basically sucked her dry. But I think the tick that has gorged himself the most would be this guy.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

She saw one of my sons one day this year and he decided not to go back over there because of what he saw. The other one, Jaden, who's my younger son, is 19 now. He's been over there quite a few times over the past year and he stopped seeing her in the last few months because of the situation. I mean, the things that they've seen are shocking, right? So shocking that one of my sons came to me and called me and.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Was like, I don't know what to do.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

I'm afraid mom is going to die.

[Nancy Grace]

From our friend Piers Morgan uncensored. Joining us tonight is one of my favorite columnists. If you've never read her columns, you'll agree with me really quickly. Joining me now is Kennedy. She's known as Kennedy like Cher or Elvis. She is a high profile columnist for DailyMail.com Kennedy, thank you for being with us.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

It is always my pleasure. You are an absolute legend and when your team reaches out, I'm always like.

[Nancy Grace]

Hail to the S. Well, you're going to catch H E double L for what I know you are about to say. But as you put in your article, quote, it's time to admit the truth about this public menace. Now how long can we blame bad men? Look, I have blamed Kevin Federline for so long. I blamed the first husband for taking advantage of her. I blame the new husband, as you said, could not be get a job as an extra in Sharknado. Is that true? The model. He could not get a job as an extra in Sharknado. Or did you make that up? Did you take poetic license?

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

I did. I think I said Sharknado 15. Even that far into the future, I don't think Sam is going to be able to land a role there. But it's not just about the men. It's the position that unfortunately, I know, obviously, and this has been documented, this has been admitted, she's dealing with a degree of mental illness here and I understand that, but that is not an explanation or an excuse for everything. She's 43 years old. She is a mom, but still, you know, she's putting herself in these situations over and over and over again. And it's one thing if there are predatory men who are taking advantage of her, but you know, this is not an innocent doe who's just wandered out of the wilderness. This is a woman who has been famous for almost 30 years now. And at some point she has to. If she has fought so hard for her agency, she has to lead with that and she has to be the one making better decisions. And part of that is getting a better care team in position to play a little bit of defense for her because she's not doing it on her own. And all you have to do is look into her eyes and you know that she is unwell. You know, this is, this is a 43 year old woman who has pleaded to have a relationship with her sons. Her sons have said publicly, we can't be with our mom when she's dancing around naked with knives with a bunch of dog poop in the background. They want to help her, but they're not going to appease her. They're not going to go down a road of codependency. And unfortunately, something needs to be done before she gets hurt. Or especially in one of the latest escapades, she hurts someone else. Because she was not in a good frame of mind when she left that restaurant after happy hour.

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[Nancy Grace]

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[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Yeah, and that's a problem, because if she's. And I don't know if she was inebriated, I have no idea what was going on before, during, or after that. But I know that if I were in that frame of mind, I would not drive because I would not put my life, my reputation, and certainly the lives of others at risk. Because as she's swerving around, driving erratically, speeding, slowing down, gesticulating wildly, doing random U turns in the middle of the street, she could hit a busload of kids coming back from a sporting event or a van full of seniors out for a night at the theater. And she. At some point, something tragic is going to happen. And is it really appropriate for us to look back and say, oh, we should have done something differently? Because obviously the conservatorship was too harsh and too restrictive. But, you know, there was no middle ground. There was no other option.

[Nancy Grace]

You know, another thing you mentioned in your article, which is in the Daily Mail title, I have no sympathy for Britney Spears. What if her latest stunt had killed a kid? It's time to admit the truth about this public menace, Kennedy. And before you start firing off angry Insta and X and Facebook, blah, blah, blah, at Kennedy, think About it, she, Kennedy, supported the end of the conservatorship, as did I. It was draconian. It was too harsh. She was being bugged and told who she could be with. It was crazy. But now it seems as if the pendulum has gone too far the other way. In your article, you compare your words, the psycho Mary Poppins moment when she attacked paparazzi, and do you blame her, really, with the umbrella and the twisted ankle from doing leaps inside the Chateau Marmont? You compare those incidents to the current driving fiasco, the dangerous driving, and you say this is much worse. For those that are not familiar with the Mary Poppins moment or the Chateau Marmont twist. Could you explain?

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Yes. So in 2007, she was in a custody battle with her estranged husband, Kevin Federline. And, you know, she had two young kids. That's when she. She really had a very public mental breakdown. And she was being followed and hounded by paparazzi. And so she took an umbrella out of her car and, like Mary Poppins, just started kind of fighting back. And people couldn't get enough of it. And it was like a car wreck where looky loos were slowing down to take in the potential carnage of her life. It was like the OJ Chase that went on for years instead of hours. And, you know, that was one thing. But this now where she is going to take away. If we fought for her freedom to advocate getting out of this restrictive conservatorship, she is going to take away other people's freedom in the form of their lives if she's not careful. And you can't have it both ways. It's not like, leave her alone. You guys are so mean to Britney, while at the same time, leaving her alone leaves her to potentially cause tragedy in her life or someone else's. And I would like to see her heal. I would like to see her back on stage of her own volition. I would like to see her recording music. But she has to stabilize. She's clearly in a very, very unstable place. And as a fan of her music, and I agree that she has reached icon status because of her talent and because there's something about her vulnerability and her life that is like Marilyn Monroe. But she doesn't have to be frozen in cultural amber because she dies young, she still has a lot of life and thriving to do, but not in the.

[Nancy Grace]

I got a question for you, Kennedy. And I know that you're not a shrink, although maybe you should consider that. But you make a really interesting comparison in this Daily Mail. Article comparing Justin Timberlake getting a dui and he is eviscerated wrongly or rightly compared to Brittany. Very different treatments.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Yeah, and I think he, he took a big reputational hit after she revealed some of the details of their relationship in her memoir. But that took his career down several rungs on the ladder that he has been ascending for decades as well. And so if Justin Timberlake is, as you say, eviscerated for driving impaired, why is she given a shield? Why is she given a pass by her fans when, you know, we're not in the middle of a conservatorship, we're at a different time. And you have to acknowledge that. You have to acknowledge that these are a different set of circumstances that she is launching irresponsibly. So call her out for the irresponsibility because if you don't have some stop guards, what will she do next?

[Nancy Grace]

Yeah, and I wonder who is going to be hurt other than her next. I got a question, and I've seen it so many times in court where I feel that women have been totally taken advantage of by men just in the worst ways. And you point out a series of guys who are basically leeches sucking the blood and the money out of Britney Spears, but yet she keeps going back to the same type of guy.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Yeah, we all know someone like that in our lives. Like, we, we all know the friend who dates the unavailable men, dates the. The bad boys. And, you know, we're the ones who end up consoling them. But at some point, if there's a pattern in your life and the same thing is happening over and over again and you are the common factor there, you have to take responsibility for that aspect of it. And, you know, unfortunately, she's got tens of millions of dollars that she's blowing through. And what happens when she's broke? You know, are we going to see all my stars?

[Nancy Grace]

Have you ever read let's see the Daily Mail? You guys love to show. And of course I read it. I never don't read it. Where some famous person is wandering around LA with a shopping cart full of stuff and you think, what the hey happened to all that money? We are told, shockingly, that Britney Spears has run through a $60 million fortune. What the hey happened?

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Yeah, I mean, to us, that's a lot of money. And, you know, part of the onus was on her dad for, you know, spending like a drunken sailor when she was under conservatorship, but now that she really doesn't have the same revenue sources she got a good chunk of money for her memoir and a nice bonus from that that she has reportedly already run through. And she goes on these trips. It's her money, she can spend it. But at some point, look at Justin Bieber. He's lucky. He has a sugar mama, he has a wife who's now worth a billion dollars. And he, he released some music this year. But if you're an artist, releasing music doesn't make you money unless you're touring, you're really not going to capitalize on your catalog. And I don't know if she's capable of the physical and emotional rigors of a tour or a residency. I know her fans, they, they are legion and they are devoted. They would love to see her. But if, if she plans on maintaining the money that she's got, she's got to, she's got to slow down. It's like anybody but Kennedy, we're showing right now.

[Nancy Grace]

I don't know if you can see your monitor. The incident at the ritzy Louisiana suburb restaurant and you just had to describe her shorts as saggy diapers. Did you really have to go there, Kennedy?

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[Nancy Grace]

That's what it looks like, you know, no shame at all.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

I write what I see, Nancy, and sometimes as a writer you have to be descriptive. And I looked at the shorts and I was like, whoa, hey, depends. Couldn't pull anything out of the clean basket. Had to fish around in the hamper for those.

[Nancy Grace]

I would like to laugh, but when I keep looking at that veering over the double yellow video, I think I've probably just seen too much Kennedy.

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace because we're all standing by. We want something to happen. We're the ones screaming get rid of the conservatorship. Now she's out of the conservatorship and it's all going straight to H E double L. My question now is whether charges are going to be brought for the reckless driving. It's all on video. And I guess you notice the paparazzi who was recording it didn't call 911, didn't try to stop her, just recorded it and probably made a lot of money off of it.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Kennedy yeah, absolutely. And there were not police officers there so they really can't charge her. So you know, all people can do is if you see her driving erratically again, you have to call law enforcement and that's the bottom line. And if she is driving.

[Nancy Grace]

Kennedy, Kennedy. My sweet dear naive Lisa Kennedy. Many a case has been proven without a cop being a witness. Where there's a will, there's a way. Trust me. It just seems like that. Yeah. You think murders, rapes and traumales stations happen out on the street usually? No.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

I don't know man. I think I would be like if I were her lawyer, I would, I would pull the Princess Diana defense and be like she, her life was threatened by these paparazzi. You can't see from that vantage point she was trying to escape from them. And you know, unfortunately LA juries tend to favor celebrities.

[Nancy Grace]

All that is true. But I'm wondering if a court appearance for the dangerous driving which could easily have caused a head on collision because when you follow that video on to the end, right after she goes over the yellow line, the double line and comes back, a car comes just right after that up.

[Kennedy (DailyMail.com Columnist)]

Look at that blind corner. There are no street lights, nothing.

[Nancy Grace]

And here comes the car. You know, 30 seconds would have made such a huge difference and not in a good way. Well, keep your defense attorney thoughts to yourself. Let's not give anyone any ideas what can be done to help Britney and help the public. Kennedy, I'm waiting for your next article. I'm a big fan. Thank you for joining us tonight. Bye, thank you.

[Guest Commentator/Analyst]

Bye.

[Nancy Grace]

What happened to Brittany? Why did she vanish? Straight back out to special guest Alina Shirazi joining a Senior Political Reporter DailyMail.com Alina Brittany made a return what happened?

[Narrator/Announcer]

She disappeared for a few days and then she made a couple posts, separated. We know with Brittany, sometimes she'll make a couple posts on the same day, sort of spread out. She rejoins with a cryptic message. She was wearing racy lingerie. She mentioned boundaries in her post. Maybe an ode to her ex K Fed's new book. She also mentioned the devil. She said she tries to live within her means, which is another topic we covered earlier. Nancy, she mentioned the devil is in the details, but we can get to that later. So she made a reappearance.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall (Psych Analyst)]

Right.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And you know, I feel like Britney Spears is. Instagram is kind of what you do when you can't sleep at midnight and you're in your bed scrolling, trying to make sense of the captions and think that you might be onto something. Some of it makes sense, some of it doesn't. But certainly, you know, her song may have been a fulfilling, a self fulfilling prophecy. My loneliness is killing me. It feels like even deactivating her Instagram is sort of like a sense of control that she has that she can deactivate it. She can come back when she wants to. Unfortunately, the comments have been turned off where I know a lot of us have been going to the comments to sort of piece the puzzle together. But certainly she did make a reappearance. She talked about how she was trapped in Mexico. She made another post about that where she was speaking with a British accent and sort of, you know, dancing around in different outfits. So she's continuing the same Britney. There was a pause, which a lot of fans were concerned about. But she's back. And a lot of the reasons that people say she disappeared was of course because she was so hurt by that book from her ex and a lot of the things that were in it that were probably very difficult for her to read.

[Nancy Grace]

Rob Sheeter joining me, author of a brand new novel that just hit Amazon. It started with a whisper. Rob, how long are we going to excuse her behavior? If she wants to live that way, that's her decision. She's no longer under conservatorship. But when you are driving dangerously. And I believe criminal charges could be proven based on that paparazzi video. I really do. Will they do it? It's la, they love celebrities. Probably not, but could it be done? Yes. So how long will she be given a pass? She's the poor little rich girl.

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

I fear, Nancy, she's going to be given a pass until she harms somebody very seriously. And I think people around Britney are not only Worried about her harming herself, which is a real concern, but also to the damage that she can do to others. So I agree with you. We've covered this a long time. Celebrities in LA really get away with a lot. And anywhere else, this, this wouldn't have been tolerated. Something would have been done. But because she's Britney Spears, because she's in la, because thankfully up to now, Nancy, nobody has been really hurt. I think she's going to keep getting away with it.

[Nancy Grace]

Rob Shooter, let me see him. Do you realize that according to reports, Britney Spears has plowed through. I'm reading and I just pulling this out of thin air. $61 million with nothing to show for it but a bunch of fast food receipts. 50 grand. 50 grand on a single private jet, Mexican villas to the tune of $20,000 a night, $40,000 on pet care, $100,000 on massages, and this is conservative. $500 manicures. All that money gone. And she is not going back to work anytime soon. She's apparently blown through everything she made on her memoir. Where is the money? Is she going to be one of those people pushing a cart around LA full of their stuff?

[Rob Shooter (PR Guru)]

Potentially, it's that serious. She has blown through a million. She is arguably one of the most successful pop stars of all time. She should be worth hundreds of millions of dollars when you look up how much money she's made over her still quite short lifetime. She's still in her 40s. She's made billions from concerts to record sales, to fragrances, to merchandise. None of that money appears to be with Brittany. And I think that is something that we need to investigate too. Where is Britney's money? Yes, she's wasted a lot. But also too, I think there's something a little darker there. And the money that she earned often went to other people.

[Nancy Grace]

What about it, Dr. Bethany? Spending like a drunken sailor? I don't know that. She's a shopaholic. I don't know that. But the expenditures are bizarre. And she is not working $60 million in a year down the crapper.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall (Psych Analyst)]

Okay, again, remember, I don't know her. I have not evaluated her. But if she was my patient, I would wonder about bipolar illness or stimulant abuse. And the reason I would wonder that is that both cause compulsive, impulsive spending that is at the heart of it. And according to one report, when she was in Mexico, she was up all night online shopping. And what's bizarre, Nancy, is those restaurants that we see her in. I'm familiar with Them, they are very inexpensive restaurants. She eats fast food. She's not out fine dining. Her clothing looks very inexpensive, so she's not spending it on food and clothing. I don't see any great jewelry. Okay. She has a nice car. She drives. My celebrity patients in my practice are taken advantage of every single day. So if they're not spending the money themselves, somebody else is going to do it for them. And when you are raised in her kind of environment by a stage mom, you are socialized to believe that you have to give everything to everybody else around you. And it creates a situation where these celebrities are sitting ducks.

[Nancy Grace]

Ashley Wardlaw is joining us. Private investigator Chief Operations Officer Nathan's investigations. Ashley, there is a move afoot to instigate criminal charges against Britney Spears for the driving we observe in the video. If you were building that case, and I really doubt that LAPD is going to pursue this because she's a celebrity, if it were you or me, they'd probably be all over it. But, Ashley, how would you begin to prove that case? I guess starting at the restaurant itself?

[Ashley Wardlaw (Private Investigator)]

Well, Nancy, in a situation like this, it's not necessarily about collecting new evidence the way people might imagine. It's about verifying facts. And a private investigator's job would be to confirm what's real versus what's rumored, especially when there's so much conflicting information in the media. So, for example, of course, we all see the video. Okay, We. We see that it. It exists. But a good move for a PI would be to go and see if there's a pattern of this behavior. So let's see if we can get video from other places that she's visited and, of course, you know, see what her behavior is in those videos. Of course, it would be a good move also to do surveillance on her now for a couple months to see what her behavior looks like. And, of course, this will be done in a discreet manner. It wouldn't be anything that she's noticing she's being watched or followed. Something important to note is that us PIs, we don't necessarily make a diagnosis or judgments about people's mental health, but we can definitely provide documentation that would help attorneys or family members or especially the courts, just kind of come to a clearer picture of what's going on.

[Nancy Grace]

To Elizabeth J. Mcinterf joining us. High profile lawyer who specializes in guardianship issues. She's a partner at Selzer Gurvich. Elizabeth, putting together a case like this, you typically have to have a breathalyzer or a blood alcohol test. To prove dui. But that wouldn't necessarily be the case here. It's caught on video. I believe the nav system, the navigation system in that vehicle would come into play, roadside surveillance to show she was in fact the only one in the car and she was controlling the car the entire time. And eyewitnesses, specifically the person that led her by the hand out of the restaurant and poured her into the car. It can be proven. But will it, Elizabeth?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Certainly I think they can make a case for reckless driving. I don't know that they can make a case for driving under the influence given that, as you stated, there's no breathalyzer, no roadside sobriety test. But again, reckless driving, while it could be a symptom, showing that a guardianship is necessary, it doesn't mean that a guardianship is required. So that's something we have to keep in mind when we're talking about what is essentially bad behaviors.

[Nancy Grace]

Here to Alina Shirazi joining us from Daily Mail. Alina, is that what it will take for Brittany to get her life back together again, to show up in court on dangerous driving charges?

[Narrator/Announcer]

It could. I mean, she certainly needs a kind of shock, right? I mean, she lobbied and advocated for her freedom along with really the rest of the world who wanted her to have it. But that comes, of course, at the cost of responsibility of being a functional adult adult of realizing that there are consequences for your actions. And so she has to realize that when she was able to escape her conservatorship from her father, that means that the liability is now on her. And so does she want that responsibility? I don't know. It doesn't seem like it.

[Nancy Grace]

Tonight we remember an American hero, Officer Travis Wallace, Helena pd, Arkansas, shot in the line of duty after five years serving and protecting, survived by his only son, now without a dad. American hero Officer Travis Wallace, Nancy Grace signing off. Goodbye.

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