CONVICTED SEAN "DIDDY" COMBS TO BE UNDER STRICT RULES ONCE RELEASED FROM PRISON, CART BEFORE THE HORSE?

Summary

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Episode: CONVICTED SEAN "DIDDY" COMBS TO BE UNDER STRICT RULES ONCE RELEASED FROM PRISON, CART BEFORE THE HORSE?

Date: October 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Grace leads an impassioned discussion on the recent conviction and sentencing of Sean "Diddy" Combs. The focus: the "split verdict" in Diddy's federal trial for charges relating to sex trafficking and prostitution, the limited 36-month sentence, the public’s (and victims’) reactions, and the "stringent" post-release rules awaiting Combs. With expert guests including affected reporters, legal minds, victim advocates, and insiders who knew Combs personally, the episode unpacks the disappointment, outrage, and implications of this landmark case for both survivors and the justice system.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Diddy's Conviction, Sentencing, and “Stringent” Rules

• Nancy Grace opens with incredulity at the prospect of discussing Diddy's future parole conditions before he’s even served his full sentence:
  • "Wait a minute. Released from prison? He hasn't served his measly 36 months yet and we're already talking about release. Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? Hold on, Nellie. Strict rules, my rear end." (01:55)
• The so-called “stringent restrictions” for Diddy include:
  • Reporting to a probation officer “as instructed”
  • Surprise visits from the probation officer
  • Living in a judge-approved residence (likely a mansion)
  • Submitting to searches of self/property
  • No use of illegal drugs
• Nancy casts doubt on the effectiveness and sincerity of these penalties, emphasizing Diddy's history of flouting rules and using his wealth and influence to sidestep accountability:
  • "He'll probably have a driver drop him off in front, go in, charm the probation officer and then leave. Maybe he'll slip him a couple hundred dollars." (01:55)

2. Recap of the Split Verdict

• Tisa Tells (YouTube reporter) recounts the moment the verdict was read:
  • Not guilty on RICO and both sex trafficking counts.
  • Guilty on 2 counts of interstate transportation for prostitution (relating to “Cassie” and “Jane”).
  • Maximum sentence for each conviction: 10 years, but the judge awarded only 36 months after time served.
  • Audible gasps, shock, and celebration among Diddy’s supporters:

    "When the jury walked in… everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guilty on at least the sex trafficking… Count one, not guilty. It was a bomb that went off in the courtroom..." (04:53)

3. Threats and Chaos Outside the Courthouse

• Tisa Tells describes being threatened and chased by Diddy supporters:
  • Fans accused her of being a “fed,” threatened her life, and warned they would “treat [her] worse than Cassie.”
  • The scene was so chaotic that the courthouse was locked down and media needed armed security to leave safely.
  • She frames the verdict as social permission for violence and impunity due to fame and wealth:

    "Diddy supporters surrounding me, threatening me, saying that they were going to hurt me… Because guess what? If you work hard enough and you have enough money and enough delusional fans and you have ingrained yourself in culture enough that you can do whatever you want and 12 of your peers will look the other way…" (06:50 / 08:27)

4. Victim Impact and Reaction

• Panelists (Rob Shuter, Lynn Shaw, Dr. Cheryl Ehrent):
  • Express heartbreak, concern for victims, and anxiety over the message sent to survivors everywhere.
  • Rob Shooter:

    "He is now a federal criminal. He's in jail tonight. He's going to remain there. And so at least you can take some solace in that…" (12:12)

  • Lynn Shaw:

    "I believe Cassie. I believe Jane. I believe sex trafficking… The public, and I'm going to say the jurors, do not understand predation power, what sex trafficking is…" (15:27)

  • Dr. Cheryl Ehrent discusses trauma responses and how juries misinterpret “appeasement” as consent:

    "Consent is anything but when somebody really scary makes you an offer that you cannot refuse, that is not consent… these really normal autonomic nervous system survival responses… need to be understood better by juries, understood better by the public and by survivors themselves." (36:13)

5. Jury & Public Reaction – Starstruck and Dangerous Precedent

• The panel repeatedly suggests “starstruck” jurors failed to understand the realities of sex trafficking and trauma.
• The rampant, euphoric celebrations of Diddy’s supporters are likened to a “mosh pit of depravity” outside the courthouse:
  • "They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around, feeling fantastic… a monster's ball of depravity…" (25:29)
• Rob Shuter highlights Diddy’s disregard for his own fans:

  "Those people... have never met him. He does not care about you… He’s laughing at these people outside that courthouse…" (38:04)

6. Flight Risk and Denied Appeal Bond

• The judge denied release pending appeal, citing Diddy’s resources and longstanding intimidation of witnesses.
• Discussion of how easily Diddy could “disappear” using private jets if given bond:

  "If the judge had given Sean Combs an appeal bond, he'd go straight to Teterboro and take off, probably under an assumed name…" (30:21)

• Even Diddy’s own lawyers’ plea—"just trust him"—is scorched by Nancy and her panel.

7. Broader Implications for Victim Advocacy & Justice

• The narrative returns repeatedly to the damage done to faith in the system, particularly for sexual violence survivors.
• Nancy Grace’s closing editorial is raw and frustrated:

  "Thanks, Judge, for that. Rape victims all over the world now hiding under their beds. Thanks to you, judge. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend." (53:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Diddy’s “Stringent” Release Terms

• "For a guy that stripped down repeatedly wearing nothing but a burqa in the sex videos, I doubt he's gonna mind [being searched] at all." (24:12)

On Jury Dynamics & Celebrity

• (Tisa Tells) "People get starstruck and they want some of that magic. And it makes me wonder, were they starstruck? Were they feeling sorry and trying to protect a legacy for someone that hid their depravity and their evil ways behind it, it makes you wonder." (17:12)

On the Celebrations Outside the Courthouse

• "They formed a circle. It looked like a mosh pit of depravity. They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around, feeling fantastic… It was a monster's ball of depravity…" (25:29)

On Survivor Trauma and Juror Misunderstanding

• (Dr. Cheryl Ehrent) "When someone does not believe they can survive a threat by actually fighting back, they use fawning, they use appeasing, they use the freeze response… these are things that need to be understood better by juries…" (36:13)

On Rob Shuter’s Perspective

• "I've observed a really selfish person, Nancy. I've observed a person who doesn't have any shame, who has no sense of pride, who has no sense of decency. He's a really bad man… Now, I hoped that day was coming to an end. In fact, I could even tell you the day that I thought it was ending. It was today. I'm absolutely punched to my gut, to my stomach. To know that Puffy once again rises. Maybe not like a phoenix, but justice does not feel as if it has been served." (39:22)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:55 – Nancy Grace questions leniency and early focus on parole/release rules.
• 04:53 – Tisa Tells recounts the verdict announcement and courtroom shock.
• 08:27 – Tisa Tells describes threats and mob violence from Diddy supporters.
• 12:12 – Rob Shuter contextualizes the partial win for victims and survivors.
• 15:27 – Lynn Shaw expands on juror misconceptions about trafficking.
• 17:12 – Tisa Tells details reactions to the verdict in the courtroom.
• 25:29 – Tisa Tells describes the chaotic, celebratory scene outside the courthouse.
• 27:36 - 28:02 – Sidney Sunray provides a legal breakdown of counts and verdict.
• 30:21 – Nancy and investigators discuss Diddy’s flight risk and the judge’s decision to deny bond.
• 32:54 – Rob Shuter and Nancy reflect on Diddy's role in orchestrating supporters’ behavior.
• 36:13 – Dr. Cheryl Ehrent provides a psychological perspective on trauma and consent.
• 38:04 – Rob Shuter addresses the disconnect between Diddy and his followers.
• 39:22 – Rob expands on his personal observations of Diddy’s character.
• 46:38 – Sidney Sunray and Nancy Grace reflect on Diddy's lack of remorse.
• 48:57 – Lynn Shaw decries the defense’s call for “trust” and emphasizes the ongoing danger.
• 53:34 – Nancy Grace closes with a somber statement on justice and victim impact.

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Panel & Contributors

• Host: Nancy Grace (Crime Stories w/ Nancy Grace)
• Tisa Tells: Reporter, eyewitness to courtroom events
• Rob Shuter: Columnist, former publicist of Diddy
• Lynn Shaw: Victim advocate, founder of Lynn’s Warriors
• Dr. Cheryl Ehrent: Clinical and forensic psychologist
• Sidney Sunray: Crime Stories investigative reporter
• Philip Dubé: Veteran trial lawyer, Los Angeles
• Robert Crispin: Private Investigator, ex-federal task force
• Additional survivor voices and legal analysts

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Tone and Takeaways

• Emotionally charged, raw, and urgent.
• A scathing critique of celebrity culture’s impact on justice and the way the legal system lets down survivors.
• Panelists express solidarity with victims, frustration with the system, and deep skepticism over whether Diddy will ever truly be held accountable.
• The episode serves as both a post-mortem on the case and a rallying cry for public education on sex trafficking and trauma.

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The episode is a must-listen for those interested in the intersection of pop culture, justice, and survivor advocacy, providing hard-hitting analysis, firsthand accounts, and impassioned reactions directly from those closest to the story.

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CementMobile.com Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last days. We understand that Sean Diddy Combs is to be under strict rules once released from prison. Wait a minute. Released from prison? He hasn't served his measly 36 months yet and we're already talking about release. Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? Hold on, Nellie. Strict rules, my rear end. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us. Why are we already talking about rules for release? Combs hasn't done a fraction of his mega 36 months behind bars. After all the things the judge was heard that he did to women and he's doing 36 months. I'm still reeling over that. But now his quote, rules, quote, as if he ever lived according to rules. They're called, quote, stringent restrictions. Well, that's total bs. For instance, he will have to report to his probation officer, quote, as instructed. Wah wah. He's got to go to the probation department. That's nothing. He'll probably have a driver drop him off in front, go in, charm the probation officer and then leave. Maybe he'll slip him a couple hundred dollars. Remember how he bribed the hotel employees to quash the video of him beating Cassie Ventura senseless? Anyway, here's a second quote. Stringent rule. His probation officer will be allowed to drop in anytime. Okay? Whatever you do, don't have a drink when you're there. Probation officer. Or you may end up butt naked, getting videoed, having sex and wake up with your rear end hurting like many of the victims claim happened to them. Okay, you know what? This is what we know happened after a split verdict where Sean Combs is acquitted of rico. Two other counts come into play. Sean Combs convicted on two felony counts. There was a massive argument via paper to keep Sean Combs behind bars. The defense fighting tooth and nail to let him out on appeal bond, which means you get out while your conviction is being appealed. Joining me right now, Tisa tells you can find her on YouTube at Tesa Tales. Tisa, start at the beginning. Start with the verdict. The split, what happened?

[B]

When the jury walked in, everybody was on pins and needles. I'm not gonna lie. Everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guilty on at least the sex trafficking. There was a somber tone. They walked in and they said, please read. And they said, what do you find ye on count one? Not guilty. It was a bomb that went off in the courtroom. The public audibly gasped. Nobody was expecting that. There were tears of joy from Diddy's side. Count two, what say ye? Not guilty. Again, another bombshell went off. People were in utter disbelief. Even Diddy's most ardent supporters did not expect him to get off. On the count of sex. Sex trafficking with Cassie. Count three, when they said guilty for transportation of a prostitute, when they said guilty for pro. For the mayonnaise, that is when Diddy's team actually cheered. Yeah, that's all right. Okay, okay. Come on. Almost like we were watching a pro football game when the other ones came in. After that, there were jaws on the ground. It was unbelievable. People were looking at the jury, searching, and to how they could get a verdict in this day and age. They heard Cassie's mother, the 20,000. They heard Capricorn Clark. They heard about the savage beatings. And it was unbelievable that the only thing they said was prostitution. And that is because Daniel Phillips, in his testimony, actually said at least I'm guessing that just because that he got paid to have sex for money was a travesty. It was an all out circus. Everybody, including myself, are running to safety.

[A]

I've got a question for you, Tisa. Tails. And everyone's going to want to know this. You're in a car right now. You had to leave the courthouse. Why?

[B]

I had to leave the courthouse because Diddy's supporters were out of control. The first time I ran and did my live, of course I had two armed security guys. Everyone told me the people in the courthouse was like, make sure you have security. There's a lot of weird stuff going on. It wasn't just me. But I'll tell you what I experienced. Diddy supporters surrounding me, threatening me, saying that they were going to hurt me. It was a serious situation. Got so bad and there was so much chaos of chaos and violence that they actually had to lock the courtroom down and force the Diddy supporters across the street. It was something myself, the news media, mainstream media, new media have never seen in their lives. The level. And again, the jurors, I hope to God they, they know how to sleep at night because again, I'm sure they did their duty. But when all that chaos was happening, as I was being threatened and usher out by armed security people, I thought, this is what the jury did. They sent a signal that it is okay to use violence. It's okay to drug people up, it's okay to live a life of debauchery. It's okay to do whatever you want. Because guess what? If you work hard enough and you have enough money and enough delusional fans and you have ingrained yourself in culture enough that you can do whatever you want and 12 of your peers will look the other way again, this jury was shocking.

[A]

Tisha tells. When you say that Sean Combs supporters threatened you, what were they saying?

[B]

They were saying, you be you effing B. We're going to kill you, you effing B. You work. Apparently I work for the feds. You're a plant. You made this all up. Because of you. Again, they're not too smart. Because of you. That's how this case got started. We're going to treat you worse than we treated Cassie. Cassie, what we do to you is going to be nothing that they had on Cassie. They were screaming, they were yelling. Some people were saying, apologize to Diddy. Apologize to Diddy. Of course, thank goodness we had Lenny and we had Jimmy, two of the best armed guards out there. So the one thing is they. And also they started foaming like wild dogs because they realized that I was not an unprotected woman. And they realized they could not just do what they felt like. And they started foaming like wild dogs, screaming, their voices cracking in anger that they viscerally wanted to rip me apart. This is why their hero had been exonerate. Even in the best of times, these people that support him, there's something wrong with it. And I got to tell you, Nancy, it wasn't just me. It was not just me. It was anybody that didn't have a pro Diddy stance from the beginning. That's who suffered.

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Joining me, an all star panel. But I want to thank Tisa Tails for what she's doing tonight. You know, Rob Sheeter is joining me. Rob, I really don't know where to start. This is a blow. This is a huge blow to crime victims all over the country. Huge blow. The big news is right now, Sean Combs is going to jail. Okay? He's going to jail. I was actually worried that somehow the judge would contravene the law. And the law is under the Bail Reform act that for these two charges on which he was convicted, he has to go to jail. There is no appeal bond, period. But I was so concerned that the judge would somehow find a way to let him walk. And all this time, shooter we've been hearing, I've got all these letters here. Here is one from Deontay Nash. In fear. In fear. Talking about Combs long well documented history of violent retaliatory behavior. They're afraid. Rob Shuter. Guys, Shuter knows Combs better than any of us. His longtime publicist, no more. But now you can find him at his substack robshuter.substack.com and naughty but nice podcast, Sheeter. I gotta tell you, it was like a kick in the stomach when that split verdict came down.

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Yeah, I think everybody was stunned. Before I continue then, Nancy, I just want to send my best to Tisha. What happened to her outside that courthouse is horrific. It's wrong. And I'm afraid these people now have been emboldened. When we heard the judgment, I think we were all shell shocked. We were all heartbroken. We all felt like we'd been kicked in the stomach. However, as the day has gone on, we do have to remember, Nancy, that he has been found guilty of two very serious charges. If any other celebrity had been charged with those two charges, those alone and been found guilty, we would be done with celebration from Team Diddy. The disappointment from people who've been watching this as closely as we have, I think we can take a step back, both sides and realize that this is not a good day for Diddy. He is now a federal criminal. He's in jail tonight. He's going to remain there. And so at least you can take some solace in that, you know, Rob.

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Sheeter, I've been getting flooded by crime victims, rape victims from all walks of life that are upset. They don't really sound mad yet. They're devastated, they're sad. They can't believe this has happened. I've been already subjected to a lot of attacks, verbal attacks, nothing like what Tisa tells has been subjected to already. But I give the credit to the prosecutors for going in there. And I truly believe this was the David and Goliath. And they went in against one of the highest profile personalities in our country, Sean Combs, who many people think that they know and they love him. And for some reason, that blinded them. That drowned out everything that three sex six attack victims said. And one had the video. One had the video. I just, I don't get it. Rob Sheeter, give me some insight into how Sean Combs got a split verdict. But yes, you're right, he is going to jail on two felonies. Two felonies. That's a victory that Sean Combs is going to jail.

[C]

Yeah, that's a victory. We have to hang on for that, Nancy, because in this moment, in this hour, it's not a lot of hope. Everything seems so bad. We have let down not just the people in this case, but victims around the world. Diddy now will be empowered. This is not the end of the story, Nancy. When he gets out of jail, if he gets out of jail, his behavior will not change because he thinks he has gotten away with it again. If you enable someone, Nancy, they do not change. So mark my words, Nancy, this is not the end of the Diddy story. It's the end of a very, very sad chapter. And I think we've let a lot of people down. And as far as being concerned about safety, I just broke reporting that Cassie has now increased her security. Cassie in New York, her home now has security increased. And I think a lot of other people, courageous people who came forward, assistance people that worked with Diddy, came forward and testified. They're very vulnerable and they are very, very scared right now.

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Lynn Shaw, joining me, founder and director Lynn's warriors, dedicated to ending sex trafficking and sex abuse on girls and women. When I learned about the split verdict, I was speechless. I Couldn't believe it, but it's happened. So what do you want the prosecutors to do? Go home and hide under the bed? Should they had just never even brought the case? They did it because they believed it. And I still do believe it. Lynn, I believe Cassie Ventura was coerced and beaten into having sex with male sex workers. That's sex trafficking. I believe her.

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I believe Cassie. I believe Jane. I believe sex trafficking. This is a sober reflection on everything I've been talking about for about eight weeks now with this TR that the public, and I'm going to say the jurors do not understand predation power, what sex trafficking is. And a reminder again, this case was not just about one man. This case was about all of the victims across the country, the world, whose voices have been silenced because they don't come forward. Because the justice system usually picks power, wealth, status over believing their truths. But I want to point out there is hope. I've spent all day coaching people, talking people, fielding text messages, and I want to say, you know what? These victims that reach out to me, Nancy, they're not even angry. You know what they keep saying? Please, Lynne, please remind everybody we're victims. Please remind everybody we have a voice. Please remind everybody we are here. And that goes back to I have to do, we have to do in society a better job of educating about sex trafficking, about trauma, bonding trauma, what predation really looks like. This is the most frightening thing to empower this. Sean Combs and I just want to make the commitment that we will work very hard to continue reforming, raising awareness and working with the justice system.

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Straight back out to Tisa Tells, who has made it to a safe location. Tisa Tells, I want to talk about what happened when the split verdict was announced in the courtroom. And then I want to move to the appeal bond hearing. Let's start with the split verdict. Take it from the very beginning.

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When you heard count one, not guilty, a bomb went off in the courtroom. Not guilty. No one could believe it. Sean Diddy's calm side even looked around as if they hadn't heard correctly. No one thought that the jury would actually go this far. Everybody thought that the delay meant that he was actually guilty. When the second count was read again, jaws dropped open. Diddy leaned back in relief, raised his hands. The defense team was like, yes, I get it. They literally pulled a magic act, okay. They literally pulled a magic act. His team, his side started celebrating, started saying, yeah, when we heard the third count, guilty for the prostitution, okay, Everyone on his side was like, that's okay. That's okay. They were clapping almost like they were watching a football game when they first came out with the verdict. The prosecution was doing what they were doing. They were looking straight. It is a job I would assume to look like they always have it under control. By the time they got to the third count, Marine Comey looked over at the jury in disbelief. Literally. Again, she's always very composed but even for her to finally look over at the jury on some are you kidding me? And she just kept looking at the jury as they read the counts. Again, I know the jury did their best but I cannot feel that justice was served. How can you forget the vicious beatings? How can you forget the 20k the mom had to wire in order for two freak off tapes not to be released? Okay, that's what she thought when she wired it. How can you forget what happened to Bona being hung over balcony? She might have got the date wrong by a few dates days but the point is it happened how you can for you get forget Deontay Nash and her best friend Carrie who got a hanger to the head and saw Cassie getting pile driven into the corner of a bed on purpose. How can you forget all that and come back and say you know what? We don't see anything criminal here. Again, we can argue about the prosecution. Prosecution got diddy on the head. We can argue about the prosecution what they could have did better. But the fact that the jury chose to overlook all that. It brought me back to what Rob Shooter said weeks ago when I first started joining you, Nancy, that people get starstruck and they want some of that magic. And it makes me wonder, were they starstruck? Were they feeling sorry and trying to protect a legacy for someone that hid their depravity and their evil ways behind it, it makes you wonder. It starts like any other night. The glass of red, the cozy blanket. Then the drop. The stain's so dark, so stubborn, it might as well have been a crime scene. But this isn't your average couch. This is Anna Bay. Fully washable, unspeakably comfortable and ready for whatever your life, your kids or your ex throws at it. And here's the kicker. Starting at just $699, you can make sure your sofa isn't part of the problem. Fully washable, stain resistant, and built to hide even the darkest defenses. Right now get up to 60% off with their early access Black Friday sale because no one should have to live with a stain that won't quit. Annabe the only mystery you won't be losing sleep over shop. Washablesofas.com today that's washablesofas.com.

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Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Sean Diddy comes to be under quote, stringent restrictions when he finishes his 36 months behind bars. That tasted like a dirt Sandwich. Why? Just 36 months is 50 months minus time served, which is 14 months, which equals 36 months. For instance, one of the stringent rules is he must submit to a search of himself and his property. Okay. For a guy that stripped down repeatedly wearing nothing but a burqa in the sex videos, I doubt he's gonna mind that at all. Joining me, an all star panel. Back to Tisa Till joining us. She had to be escorted by armed guards out of the courthouse and leave the scene after she was mobbed by Diddy fans. Explain to me what was happening outside the courthouse. I understand that once a split verdict was announced, the Diddy followers, the Diddy worshipers, went cray outside the courthouse, actually dousing each other with baby oil and chanting.

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They formed a circle. It looked like a mosh pit of depravity. They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around, feeling fantastic. One woman in a pair of Calvin Klein briefs and a bra started jumping up and down, wiggling while they sat there spraying baby owner. And the crowd was chanting, yay, yay, yay, go. And hyping them up. It was a monster's ball of depravity. When I say I was sickened, when I say I shook my head and when I said these are the peers, these are the jury of the peers. And it makes me wonder as the jury goes home and they look at the television sets and they see what their decision cost and what was on the line. It makes me wonder, how can they sleep at night? It was absolute pandemonium in between the jumping up and down with the baby oil women willingly baby oil being squirted on them and everybody laughing and having a time like Christmas had just come with Santa and the 12 perverted elves. What happened after that was even more amazing because while that was going on, there were little fires everywhere of these bands of I don't know if they're incels, if they're idiots, what was going on. Looking for anybody they had ever saw make anti diddy content. And by anti diddy, according to them, it is pro justice. They were going out their ways to make sure that everybody. And again, I said, this is what that jury cost us. It let us know. It sent a message. It's okay to be depraved. It's okay to beat women, it's okay to do drugs, it's okay to do whatever you want. And that jury, that jury, when they gave the verdict, signaled that again, I'm still coming to terms with how the jury got to this. Thank God this man was denied bail. Thank God.

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Straight out to Sydney Sunray joining us, Crime Stories, investigative reporter on the case from the very beginning. Break down the counts for me, Sidney Nancy. Count one is that racketeering, RICO conspiracy.

[B]

Combs was found not guilty on count one. Count two, three, four and five, are those sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution charges? So there was one count each for Cassie and Jane on both of those charges. So the jury found that Combs was liable for both transportation to engage in prostitution charges and not guilty on sex.

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Trafficking for either Jane, Jane or Cassie. Straight out to Philip Dube joining us, veteran trial lawyer joining us out of the LA jurisdiction. So Dubay, this is the breakdown. Count one, racketeering, not guilty. Count two, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates to Cassie Ventura, you know, the woman that was beaten in that video and dragged back to a freak off her, the one that had to get plastic surgery on her face after Diddy beat her up. That one, that's a not guilty. Count three, transportation to engage in prostitution as it relates to Cassie, guilty. That carries a maximum of 10 years. And that comes, I believe, from the sex worker who came in Philip and described Sean Combs wearing a burqa from the chin up and buck naked from the chin down and had him have sex with Cassie on video and directed them. That was across state lines. So guilty on that. Count four, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates to Jane, victim to not guilty. Count five, transportation to engage in prostitution. As it relates to Jane, guilty. So we got two guilties, three not guilties, split verdict. So there was great jubilation at at first when Diddy followers heard split verdict. They heard the words not guilty on count one and went crazy. What do you think is going to happen now, Philip?

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He will be getting prison time.

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There is no question.

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Right. Another thing, debate. Let's get real. It's really rare in federal and state court that once you're convicted and a jury convicts you on a violent offense that you get an appeal bond, which means, okay, Judge, I know he just got convicted, but could you please let him walk free now until we take this all the way up to the appellate court and get a decision, that rarely works. Agree, disagree.

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Oh, I agree.

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100%.

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No higher court is going to find that this judge abused his discretion by not letting him out or by not setting a bond.

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You know, Robert Crispin joining me, private investigator at Crispin been Special Investigations, former Homicide and former Vice Detective Crispin. Here's the deal. If the judge had granted Sean Combs a bond and appeal bond. Now remember, once he was arrested, Crispin, he was kept behind bars. He did not have a bond, right, for a reason. He's got money and he squats right over by Teterboro, the private airport near New York. You know, if the judge had given Sean Combs an appeal bond, he'd go straight to Teterboro and take off, probably under an assumed name. When you fly a private plane, you can give a fake ID just it's not the same as going through TSA at Hartsfield International or LaGuardia or JFK. No where they will free rescue and look in all your bags. It's not like that at a private plane. You kind of just walk on onto your private plane that he has, have a glass of champagne and go bye bye us, hello Paris. That's what happens. Crispin.

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Yeah, actually earlier, just before we came on Nancy, I was trying to find out where his G550 was because we know that it was out in LA.

[A]

A couple days ago.

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I was trying to see if they had already got those guys up and running and that plane was coming eastbound thinking he was going to probably get out and dip out back out to LA or back down to, you know, Miami to where his neighbors aren't certainly thrilled about him coming back. But doesn't look like anytime soon he's going to be gracing his presence with these guys. So I was trying to find out where that jet was, but I haven't found out yet. But the verdict is just. It's heartbreaking and it's a black eye to the victims. It's terrible, horrible. For any of these victims that want.

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To come forward or any witness that.

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Wants to put their ass on the line, raise your right hand and testify against somebody. When a jury is going to find that guy not guilty. That's really bad for these witnesses and victims. They know what's coming. Now look what's happened to our reporter. As she was leaving the courthouse, they were attacking her. This guy was found guilty of federal crime.

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And I'd like to point out Rob Shooter, what they were saying to Tisa Tails, Rob. They were saying, we're going to do worse to you than we did to Cassie Shooter. I mean, I mean, it's heartbreaking. Diddy has to be condoning this. He has been orchestrating the crowd. He's been orchestrating everything.

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Yeah, Nancy, I think looking for Diddy to do the right thing at this moment is unrealistic. This is who he is. The whole world has seen who he is. And unfortunately, there's a large amount of people out there who are just perfectly fine with this. Nobody can pretend anymore that we don't know who Diddy is. We know we've seen him on tape. That tape will exist forever. We've heard the testimonies, we've heard the accounts, We've heard the details. We've seen them. And yet some people still support him. There's nothing we can do about that, Nancy. And to think that Diddy is going to stop it. That ain't going to happen. He's going to encourage it. He wants people out there, he wants the violence, he wants people screaming. This to him is the party that he always wanted to throw.

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You know, Rob Shuter, Everything you're saying can be transposed to him before he was arrested. You know, in every case. I've told you this before, off air, I've seen a million homicide scenes. I've been to the morgue, I've seen it all. But there's always a moment in a trial that just twists the knife. It's very disturbing. And in this trial, there were two moments, moments like that for me. And one was in the Hotel Intercontinental video beatdown where she had already been beaten and she was backing up and she tried to hold up. She's right handed, was holding, holding her mouth, I think, with one hand, the right hand, and holding up her, her left hand against Sean Combs, like she could fight him off. Okay, and then. And the other moment was when she was getting beaten and she was down on the floor and Combs had a glass, a liquor glass held up, ready to throw down at her face. And she said, can't you see what's happening? And nobody did anything. It's just like in the courtroom, the jury didn't do anything.

[C]

They didn't. They didn't, Nancy. It's heartbreaking. People I know who have worked with him, who knew him, many of us are on a text exchange and they're heartbroken. And a lot of people are really worried, too. I don't want to keep harping on about this, Nancy, but this is a very dangerous man. This is a man who allegedly tried to firebomb the car of somebody that was dating his girlfriend. His Accident, ex girlfriend. This is a dangerous, dangerous man. And what that jury has just done has said, it doesn't matter, it's okay. You keep being puffy, you keep being you, and we will support you. But let me just say, Nancy, we can't just blame the jury here. We've got to blame the person that did it, and that's Diddy. Diddy is responsible for all this. Everything else is a red herring. He's the problem, and he will continue now to be a problem.

[A]

Dr. Cheryl Ehrent, who is a clinical and forensic psychologist, explains the effect this is going to have on not only these victims that we heard on the stand, but other victims everywhere.

[B]

Nancy, once there is the threat of violence, that power control tactic shapes everything that happens after that. We have a jury who heard evidence about a tremendous amount of violence, threats, threats of blackmail, videotaped assaults that were maintaining the power and control, and yet they didn't feel that they had enough evidence to be able to find that what was happening there was not consensual trafficking has to do with force, fraud, coercion. Consent is anything. But when somebody really scary makes you an offer that you cannot refuse, that is not consent. And what I think people are failing to understand about the way that even the threat of violence shapes behavior is that when someone does not believe that they can survive a threat by actually fighting back, they use fawning, they use appeasing, they use the freeze response. They are trying to placate the person who is scaring them. And this man certainly has no shortage of people who were really, really frightened of him and still are. And I think that these really normal autonomic nervous system survival responses, fawning, appeasing, the freeze response, these are things that need to be understood better by juries, understood better by the public and by survivors themselves.

[A]

You know, Rob Shooter, would you look one more time at the celebrations going on outside the courthouse after the split verdict was announced? Take a look.

[C]

Nancy. I can tell you as somebody who knows Puff, those people standing outside that courthouse have never met him. They've never been to his apartment. They've never been on his private plane. They've never had a text or an email or a phone call with him. I have. He doesn't care about any of those people. All those people who have took their time, their energy to go and support this guy. Let me talk to them directly. He does not care about you. If he can treat his girlfriend Cassie the way that we've seen him treat her on video, this is not testimony this is video. If he can treat someone who he's supposed to love like that, how do you think he can treat you? He doesn't care about you. You're wasting your energy on him. And honestly, my friends. Stop. He doesn't care. He's laughing at these people outside that courthouse.

[B]

He.

[C]

He's egging them on, but he doesn't care.

[A]

You know, Rob Sheeter, you speak with so much conviction and so much feeling. And that tells me that you know something. Something you haven't told me. Why do you believe this? What did you observe to make you say what you just said?

[C]

I've observed a really selfish person, Nancy. I've observed a person who doesn't have any shame, who has no sense of pride, who has no sense of decency. He's a really bad man. And through. Through his career, through the media, through his products, he has managed to con us all, to kid us all into believing he is somebody else. Now, I hoped that day was coming to an end. In fact, I could even tell you the day that I thought it was ending. It was today. I'm absolutely punched to my gut, to my stomach. To know that Puffy once again rises. Maybe not like a phoenix, but justice does not feel as if it has been served.

[A]

Shooter, do you know that people are flooding the courthouse, the judges chambers with letters? Please don't let them out. We're afraid. From Cassie Ventura's lawyer to Deontay Nash. So many others in fear. Just like what you're saying. And we heard earlier how this affects people. They saw what happened to Kid Cudi. They saw what happened to Cassie. And now he's gonna walk.

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Another stringent rule set down by the judge. Combs will have to live in a home approved by the probation officer. Okay, would a mansion suffice? I bet it does. Speaking of the mansion, a mansion is where many of the so called freak offs occurred. But what went on behind those mansion walls was pure hell, according to many of the victims. After the split verdict, when everyone was spraying each other with baby oil outside the courthouse and begging and yelling and celebrating, Combs goes back into the courtroom. Sidney, for the hearing. Right. The hearing on, is there going to be an appeal bond? Is Combs going to walk out of the courthouse a free man today? During that hearing, Combs briefly tries to raise his hand to speak after the judge denies his request for release. Again, the judge seemed to ignore the move and instead asks the US Assistant Attorney, Maureen Comey to respond. And she says, quote, he is extremely violent with an extraordinary temper who has shown no remorse and no regret. And it makes me think, Sidney, about that fake apology. I'm going to cue that up and play it for you in just a moment, Sid, where he does all this apologizing after beating Cassie. But according to what we learned in court and sworn testimony, he continued the violence after the apology video. That's what she said. No remorse and no regret at all.

[B]

Yeah, that is definitely what the judge and prosecutors are thinking. Comey referenced that violent incident with Jane after Combs knew he was already under investigation. The judge referenced the multiple instances of Combs trying to reach out to potential witnesses, trying to sway their opinions of what they might tell investigators after this investigation. Investigation began when Combs was well aware it was underway. Judge Supermanian also referenced Mark Agnafillo's own closing arguments. You full throatedly told the jury that there was violence, domestic violence in all of Combs relationships. Y' all owned that. And it may have helped on some of these charges. It may have helped with the guilty not guilty verdict, but it is definitely coming back to bite him.

[A]

Now. Straight out to Lynn Shaw. This also happened in the proceedings. This is after Combs tried to raise his hand to address the judge directly during the arguments. And this is after the split verdict when everybody was celebrating outside. Now comes the appeal bond where the judge is going to decide, will Combs walk free tonight? Okay. The judge looks over at the defense and he says, as Sidney just reported, quote, you full throatedly. I've never even heard anybody use that phrase, but he did. You full throatedly in your closing argument told the jury there was violence and domestic violence is violence. You said this was a case that did have violence. This is the judge talking too calm as to the basic question of violence. You conceded that in your closing argument. Now, throughout this, Combs is furiously passing notes back and forth to Agnifolo who is trying to stand there and argue and read all of Sean Combs notes. Wait for it. Lynshaw Agnifolo responds. I just think we should trust him. He's not going to flee. He just deserves a chance.

[B]

Lynn, please let us all get off this dirty ditty degenerate merry go round that we're all on. How dare that lawyer. How dare he? He's got a wife, he's got a daughter. I believe he's got sisters, a mother. Talk like this. Violence is violence. Trust him. We have seen everything to the contrary, including video evidence of Cassie being beaten. How much more do we goes back to? This is one of the worst days here at the warriors to have all of this video, to hear the way they're talking about victims. Trust him. Trust him. There's no way anybody should trust him. I'm here in New York City and Rob Shooter's correct. We've got these dirty ditty disciples running around. People should be in fear of this guy. But that brings me to how does he get away with all of this for decades? What about the victims that I've been up for 48 hours now? Counseling, counseling, helping. Giving out phone numbers, resources. Come stay with me if you don't want to be alone. What a slap in the face today to all of these victims, survivors of any kind of sexual abuse. And you know what? This is the problem with sex trafficking.

[A]

Nobody.

[B]

I'm a broken record. Nobody understands it. Nobody understands what? Force, fraud, coercion. Nobody understands coercion. And you know what? It is time we change it up. But this is a travesty. What a slap in everybody's face.

[A]

Sean Combs goes to jail. Split verdict. Not guilty on rico. Not guilty on two counts of sex trafficking. Guilty on two counts of bringing people across state lines to engage in illegal activity, that being prostitution, as it relates to Cassaventura, a victim and Jeff, not her real name, a victim. To Robert Crispin joining me, PI, but former beat cop, former special investigator with the federal task force for the US Department of Justice. And on and on. Robert Crispin, have you ever been in a case where the bad guy walks.

[B]

Oh, my God, Nancy.

[A]

This brought back.

[B]

This brought back such a memory of.

[A]

A guy who was leaning over the.

[B]

Balcony holding two kilos of cocaine in.

[A]

A CVS bag, getting ready to drop.

[B]

It on the floor because the feds were knocking on the front door and I was covering the back door and he dropped it and I got it.

[C]

And I ID him and we went.

[B]

To the jury and the jury found.

[C]

Him not guilty when me as the.

[A]

Federal DEA drug agent watched him drop that bag.

[B]

And you know why, Nancy? Because juries are so unpredictable.

[A]

You know what? We didn't pull his DNA off the.

[B]

Bag, but I watched him. I watched him drop those kilos of cocaine onto the ground. These juries have a mind of their own.

[A]

I know how that must have felt. Same. And the thing is, this is a violent crime. Philip Dubay. From what the judge was saying, when Sean Combs raised his hand trying to speak to the judge while Agniphila was arguing, the judge acted like he didn't even see him. The judge did note the wide divergence between what the state wants is sentencing and what the defense wants is sentencing. But hearing what the judge said, the judge can't just erase from his mind what he saw on the Cassie beatdown video. He cannot erase from his mind what the victim said on the stand. According to the stringent rules, Combs will be prohibited from drug use. Well, wait a minute. Aren't we all prohibited from illegal drug use? How is that a stringent rule? And speaking of drugs, many of the women in the civil complaints claim they were drugged before being stripped. And video taking part in free cough, as they call them Videos. I call it rain. Okay, Speaking of putting the cart before the horse, Sean Combs is still behind bars, isn't he? I mean, didn't he get a Whopper? 36 months. Thanks, Judge, for that. Rape victims all over the world now hiding under their beds. Thanks to you, judge. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend.

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