Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
Episode: "KILLER O.J. SIMPSON SPIED ON MY SOFA SEX SESSION WITH NICOLE"
Date: January 19, 2026
Host: Nancy Grace
Guests: Keith Zalomzowicz (Nicole Brown’s former boyfriend, author), Dr. Bethany Marshall (psychoanalyst)
Episode Overview
In this explosive episode, Nancy Grace explores the harrowing personal story of Keith Zalomzowicz, a former boyfriend of Nicole Brown Simpson, whose new book, Stalked: It Could Have Been Me, reveals chilling details about O.J. Simpson’s obsessive stalking and voyeurism prior to the infamous double murders. Through riveting conversation and psychological analysis, the episode delves into the patterns of domestic abuse, the psychology of stalking, and the profound real-life impact on survivors and their loved ones. Grace and her guests push listeners to confront the ugly, often hidden realities of intimate partner violence and its cascading effects.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Night O.J. Simpson Spied on Keith and Nicole (00:00–06:54)
- Keith recounts a night when he and Nicole, after spotting O.J. at the Roxbury nightclub (04:29), returned to her house, unaware O.J. was stalking and spying on them.
- Nancy highlights how normalized Nicole had become to O.J’s intrusions, referencing her resigned tone in 911 calls:
- “Yeah, he's breaking into my house again. By this time, it had happened so many times and she had been beaten so many times.” (00:49, Nancy)
- Keith describes the horror of learning the next day that O.J. had been watching them during an intimate moment on Nicole’s couch:
- “Come to find out, you know, I... need a shrink and I need one really quickly.” (05:17, Keith)
- Dr. Bethany Marshall labels O.J.'s behavior as “voyeurism and stalking,” explaining the psychology behind his actions:
- “The perpetrator, the stalker, lives in a state of rejection all the time... He also believed that she belonged to him, like property.” (05:47, Dr. Bethany)
2. Pattern of Stalking, Jealousy, and Abuse (06:54–18:20)
- Nancy questions how O.J., admired and coveted by society, could experience such rejection. Dr. Bethany explains O.J.'s “pathological jealousy” and sociopathic traits:
- “He only wanted her. Even if she went out for lunch with friends, he would feel betrayed and rejected.” (07:33, Dr. Bethany)
- Keith details O.J.'s subsequent break-in the following day—he barged in, confronted Keith and Nicole, and demanded to be alone with her, hurling insults and asserting dominance.
- “He was getting angrier and angrier until finally Nicole realized the only way to get him out of there was to have me wait outside the bedroom door.” (09:43, Keith)
- The conversation turns to the psychological tactics of abusers:
- “Devalue the woman, shame her, humiliate her, try to take down her credibility in front of the children. These are classic abuse signs.” (15:51, Dr. Bethany)
3. The Unrelenting Harassment and the "Two O.J.s" (18:20–29:02)
- Keith describes encountering O.J. at various public venues, noting how O.J. would routinely show up wherever Keith and Nicole went—even with an ostensible truce in place.
- “He knew exactly where to go, where to find us. It was a pattern.” (20:01, Keith)
- O.J.'s public persona sharply contrasted with his private violence:
- “There’s two O.J. Simpsons, Keith. There’s the public one that everybody sees, and there’s a private one that only I see.” (27:47, Keith, quoting Nicole)
4. Intimate Details of Nicole's Abuse (25:04–30:00)
- Keith recounts Nicole revealing the extent of O.J.'s physical violence and control, including beatings, being locked in closets, and her complex feelings of shame:
- “There are times when they'd be on a trip together… she'd be beaten and locked in a closet. That happened more than once.” (26:47, Keith)
- Dr. Bethany elaborates on the psychological toll of abuse, victim self-blame, and manipulation:
- “He wanted total control and dominance over her. To lock her in a closet is to have her all for himself and also to terrify her.” (30:00, Dr. Bethany)
5. Why Victims Stay—And the Broken Cycle (30:00–36:29)
- Nancy and Dr. Bethany dispel misconceptions about why victims of abuse remain in dangerous relationships, emphasizing shame, hope for change, and family dynamics.
- Listeners are warned: “It will get worse. Statistically, it will not get better.” (32:28, Nancy)
6. Keith’s Message and Aftermath of the Trial (33:54–47:24)
- Keith shares how his story has empowered other abuse survivors and the life-altering effects of Nicole’s murder on his own life:
- “I've helped a lot of women out of circumstances… You gave me the strength to get out of this relationship when I didn’t think I had that.” (34:12, Keith)
- The discussion covers O.J.’s notorious trial, the public split perception, and how the "charming family man" defense worked to sway the jury:
- “There's two O.J. Simpson, he's in public there... You're not going to see the private one.” (39:52, Keith)
7. Final Reflections: Loss and Enduring Trauma (47:24–48:04)
- Nancy asks Keith about never marrying:
- “Never married, never had children… I never got over it. My life turned into a circus. I always kept a place for her in my heart.” (47:30, Keith)
- The episode closes with a broader call to honor all women affected by domestic violence and to continue telling these hard truths.
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
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On Nicole’s 911 calls:
“She was just like, yeah, he's breaking into my house again. By this time, it had happened so many times and she had been beaten so many times.”
— Nancy Grace, 00:49 -
On learning about O.J.'s spying:
“Oh, yeah. How filthy she was, how disgraced she is. I watched you. I saw everything you did.”
— Keith Zalomzowicz, 10:29 -
On abuser psychology:
“These are classic abuse signs. Also trying to isolate the victim from sources of support.”
— Dr. Bethany Marshall, 15:51 -
On the 'Two O.J.s':
“There's two O.J. Simpsons, Keith. There's the public one that everybody sees, and there's a private one that only I see. And you don't ever want to be left alone with the private one because you don't know what he's capable of.”
— Keith Zalomzowicz, quoting Nicole Brown, 27:47 -
On the verdict:
“Treat it carefully, treat it fairly, be fair, don't be part of this continuing cover up… If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.”
— Narrator / Johnnie Cochran, 44:26–44:35 -
On surviving and advocacy:
“I wanted this to be a sort of wake up call for some women who are going through this right now as we speak… Guys like that are gonna be like that. They do not change.”
— Keith Zalomzowicz, 34:18 -
On enduring love and loss:
“I never got over it… I always kept a place for her in my heart. And I just never could get that attached to anyone else from that point on.”
— Keith Zalomzowicz, 47:30
Important Segment Timestamps
- Initial Story Setup & 911 Call – 00:00–00:49
- Keith recounts spying & stalking – 02:43–05:17
- Dr. Bethany Marshall analyzes stalking – 05:47–07:33
- O.J.’s confrontation after voyeurism revealed – 09:43–12:37
- Patterns of public stalking/harassment – 19:28–22:35
- Depiction of “the two O.J.s” – 27:43–28:26
- Nicole sharing abuse stories with Keith – 25:04–26:07
- Discussion of family dynamics & financial rumors – 27:29–29:02
- Victim shame and boundary psychology – 30:00–31:07
- Call to action for abuse victims – 32:28–34:18
- O.J. trial, prosecution insight and verdict – 44:01–45:16
- Keith on aftermath and relationship impact – 47:24–48:04
Tone & Language
Nancy Grace’s signature urgency and bluntness power the conversation, balanced with Keith’s somber, reflective storytelling and Dr. Bethany Marshall’s calm, analytical insight. The episode oscillates between raw emotion, righteous anger, and clinical explanation, giving listeners a searing, multidimensional view of this notorious but all-too-common dynamic of abuse.
Summary Takeaway
This episode gives voice to the survivors and witnesses of intimate partner violence, forcefully connecting the O.J. Simpson saga to wider, systemic issues of stalking, abuse, and public denial. Keith Zalomzowicz’s firsthand account and Nancy Grace’s relentless examination make a compelling argument: abuse prospers in secrecy, and only by confronting even the most powerful can the cycle be broken.