TOT MOM CASEY ANTHONY CHEWS-OUT VP VANCE, PARTIES W/REAL HOUSEWIVES

Summary

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Episode: TOT MOM CASEY ANTHONY CHEWS-OUT VP VANCE, PARTIES W/REAL HOUSEWIVES

Date: January 17, 2026

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Overview

In this powerful and impassioned episode, Nancy Grace confronts the resurgence of Casey Anthony—dubbed “Tot Mom”—who has surfaced on TikTok and Substack, proclaiming herself a “legal advocate” and publicly criticizing Vice President Vance over his ICE defense. Grace and her expert panel dissect the new developments, revisit the harrowing details of the Kaylee Anthony case, and expose what they view as Anthony’s attempts to profit from infamy—highlighting her social media campaigns, public appearances, and alleged money grabs. The episode captures ongoing outrage, disbelief, and unresolved pain in the wake of one of America’s most notorious child deaths.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

Casey Anthony’s Public Re-Emergence

• Anthony’s Social Media Campaign:
  • Casey Anthony, now active on Substack and TikTok, calls herself a “legal advocate,” a title Nancy Grace derides as “psychotic,” given Anthony’s history.
  • Anthony’s posts criticize Vice President Vance’s comments on ICE, sparking controversy.
    • Nancy Grace: “Shut your pie hole. We don't say the S word... but just this one time, shut up, woman. Good gravy. As if we want to hear her preaching about anything.” (00:12)
  • Anthony claims to advocate for her late daughter Kaylee and for herself—a statement met with scorn by Nancy and the panel.
    • Casey Anthony: "I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011. And in this capacity I feel that it's necessary... to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter." (03:33, 04:07)
    • Nancy Grace: “Legal advocate, my rear end. You were tried for the murder of your little girl.” (04:26)

Revisiting the Crime and Evidence

• The 911 Call & Initial Investigation:
  • Audio from Cindy Anthony, Kaylee’s grandmother, conveys early confusion and distress at Kaylee’s disappearance, revealing Casey’s absence and conflicting stories.
    • Cindy Anthony: “I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.” (05:02)
  • Discussion on how evidence of decomposition in Casey's car and her subsequent lies fuel suspicion.
• Film & Testimony:
  • Death investigator Jo Scott Morgan provides a sobering summary of the condition and recovery of Kaylee’s remains:
    • Morgan: “All we have left now are skeletal remains, period... her body was so badly decayed... they could not even come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death was. It's non-specified homicidal means.” (07:12)
    • Grace: “Wasn't duct tape wrapped around the baby's mouth and nose with a heart sticker stuck on it?” (07:40)
    • Morgan: “It was around her skull. That's what was done to this child. She's cast off like garbage.” (08:01)
  • Nancy underlines the proximity of the body to the Anthony home, expressing disbelief at Casey’s apparent indifference.

Casey’s Lies and the National Outrage

• Invented Nanny (Zenaida Gonzalez):
  • Nancy, with support from investigative reporter Shannon Butler, details how Casey fabricated a babysitter and stood by her lies even as police found no evidence.
    • Shannon Butler: "They said they had never met a better liar than Casey Anthony, that she was so stuck to those stories." (14:41)
• Behavior During Kaylee’s Disappearance:
  • Instead of grieving, Casey is depicted spending time at her boyfriend’s house, partying, and “never acted like anything was wrong.”
    • Nancy Grace: “Kaylee was decomposing... while you were making spaghetti for him and his roommates.” (15:53)
  • Rob Dick (Casey’s former bodyguard): “Definitely not a person who is, quote, missing a child. She never acted like that. Kaylee's name never came up.” (21:51)

Panel Analysis: Motive, Psychology, and Family Impact

• Exploiting the Case for Personal Gain:
  • The panel discusses Anthony's attempts to monetize her infamy, from Substack subscriptions to reality show pitches.
    • Nancy Grace: "Every time that you subscribe or download her gibberish and lies, you're putting another dollar in her pocket." (49:31)
    • Jo Scott Morgan: “That baby was in that car for a protracted period of time, traveling all about. All the while she's living the party life, you know?” (28:52)
  • Psychologist Dr. Bethany Marshall dissects Anthony’s lack of maternal bond, her manipulation, and the broader impact on the family.
    • Dr. Marshall: “Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony... anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going to participate in that exploitation of a child.” (30:07)

The Shifting Narrative and Attacks on Family

• Casey not only attacked Vice President Vance but also repeatedly shifted her story, at various points blaming her father George Anthony for Kaylee’s death and accusing both her father and brother of molestation.
  • Nancy Grace: "So it's okay with you that she drags them through the mud as well? Suddenly when she's on trial for murder, she remembers that her dad sex molested her?" (34:40)
  • Dr. Marshall: "Cindy claims... the reason her daughter Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation is because she found out George Anthony was the main witness to testify against her..." (33:15)

The Parents’ Ongoing Trauma

• Cindy and George Anthony’s heartbreak and trauma are repeatedly highlighted, with references to panic attacks, financial hardship, and constant public scrutiny.
  • Dr. Bethany Marshall: “She's having intrusive thoughts and memories. She's thinking about that little girl lying in a swamp. She's being interviewed... it's as if they're in it [again].” (46:21)
  • Shannon Butler: "What people maybe forget about... George and Cindy [is]... there were long-lasting effects. I think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing. For them, it just seems to never, ever end." (48:33)

Casey’s Continued Publicity Stunts

• From joining Palm Beach parties (caught on Netflix’s Members Only reality show) to being seen on dates, Anthony’s public actions contrast with her stated victimhood and advocacy.
  • Nancy Grace: “She was at one of the cast members DJ Maria Cosamanes's DJ party at the Avalon beach house... Why isn't she out doing something good for the world instead of showing up in yet another push up bra?” (25:33)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Nancy Grace, on Casey’s self-proclaimed legal status:
  • “Legal advocate, my rear end... Your exposure to the justice system was when you were tried for murder.” (26:44)
• Jo Scott Morgan, on crime scene:
  • “You can take a deceased person and put them in the car and you're not going to have a whiff of decomposition. It takes time... that baby was in that car for a protracted period of time.” (28:52)
• Shannon Butler, on Casey’s lies:
  • "[Casey] was so defiant... almost looking at them like, 'you're a bunch of idiots. Hear what I'm saying.'" (14:41)
• Dr. Bethany Marshall, on Casey’s psychology:
  • “This little girl was only used by her mother. Anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going to participate in that exploitation of a child.” (30:07)
• Rob Dick, on Casey’s demeanor:
  • "Not once did she bring [Kaylee] up or even seem to care about looking for her." (22:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:12 – Nancy’s opening tirade against Casey Anthony’s “preaching”
• 01:35-02:17 – Nancy challenges Casey’s “legal world” credentials
• 03:33, 04:07, 26:25, 51:19 – Casey Anthony’s TikTok proclamations
• 05:02-06:19 – Audio of Cindy Anthony’s 911 call; Nancy’s commentary
• 07:12-10:46 – Forensic discussion: Kaylee’s remains and cause of death (Jo Scott Morgan)
• 14:41 – Shannon Butler on Casey’s compulsive lying
• 15:53 – Nancy’s outrage about Casey’s carefree behavior during 31 days
• 21:51-22:44 – Rob Dick on Casey’s demeanor as a mother
• 25:33-26:03 – Casey Anthony seen partying; Nancy’s comparison to past behavior
• 30:07 – Dr. Bethany Marshall on psychological impact and Casey’s exploitative behavior
• 33:15-34:40 – Dr. Marshall and Nancy on Casey’s accusations against her father
• 46:21 – Cindy Anthony’s panic attack explained by Dr. Marshall
• 48:33 – Shannon Butler on the lasting pain for George & Cindy Anthony
• 49:31 – Nancy warns against supporting Casey’s monetized content
• 51:19 – Casey’s self-description as a legal advocate, replayed
• 52:42 – Nancy Grace’s closing thoughts: “Little Kaylee, rest in peace.”

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Tone and Language

Nancy Grace’s tone is fiery, indignant, and deeply personal. She expresses open contempt for Casey Anthony’s efforts to recast her public image, highlights the suffering of Kaylee Anthony, and exposes the impact on the victim’s family. Panelists echo these sentiments with professional insight and emotional candor. The language is direct, charged, and leaves no doubt where the speakers stand.

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Conclusion

This episode is a blistering condemnation of Casey Anthony’s attempts to leverage her notoriety for personal gain. Nancy Grace and her panel systematically revisit the evidence, personal stories, and psychological dimensions of the case while decrying Anthony’s relentless victim narrative and public re-engagement. The episode serves both as a review for those unfamiliar with the heartbreaking details of the case and a stern warning to the public about supporting Anthony’s new ventures.

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Transcript

[Nancy Grace]

This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human crime stories with Nancy Grace.

Oh my stars. Top mom Casey Anthony, shut your pie hole. We don't say the S word, which is stupid or shut up in our home, but just this one time, shut up, woman. Good gravy. As if we want to hear her preaching about anything. Top mom Casey Anthony made national headlines after she was accused of murdering her two year old little girl Kelly. And now she is preaching, y'.

[Cindy Anthony]

All.

[Nancy Grace]

She is preaching.

She criticizing Vice President Vance's defense of an ICE officer who shot Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis. I'm not arguing about ICE right now. I have opinions about what happened.

That's not the point. The point is Casey Anthony, please stop talking.

I'm Nancy Grace.

This is Crime Stories.

I want to thank you for being with us. As we all sadly know now, top mom Casey Anthony has a substack and she communicates on that sub stack. Quote from those of us in the legal world.

What? Woman, why are you saying you're in the legal world? You were tried for murder. You were convicted on a couple of lesser counts.

Ugh. From those of us in the legal world, you should try consulting with someone other than the corrupt Attorney general of the US to get your information about.

How our legal system and our constitution.

Are applied to all citizens, yourself included.

You know what?

You're not in the legal world.

You were tried for murder.

And many people, including me, think you're guilty. And you tried to drag your own father, George Anthony through the mud claiming he was responsible. You let your mother get up on the stand and perjure herself to save your sorry skin.

And now you are preaching.

Girl, get out of the pulpit. Let's just have a little refresher about tot mom Casey Anthony's indictment.

[Cindy Anthony]

I called a little bit ago the deputy sheriff's son and I found out my granddaughter had some taken. She had some misinformed. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today. Okay, what is the three year old's name? Kaylee.

[Nancy Grace]

That brings it back home to the discovery. And I went and looked at the spot where Kelly Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags from top mom Casey Anthony's home and thrown in a swampy area covered in trash and used tires just out a swamp. And that is where Kelly decomposed. This beautiful little girl. The shining light of her grandparents eyes in a swamp decaying. And now this.

[Casey Anthony]

I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011. And in this capacity I feel that it's necessary if I'm going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.

[Nancy Grace]

Okay, well, I. I need to see that again. That's from Casey Anthony's official TikTok account at Casey Anthony. Underscore substack psych. If you don't know what substack means, it means money to her in her pocket. I'll explain, but I've got to see this again.

[Casey Anthony]

I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011. And in this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.

[Nancy Grace]

Okay. That's from top mom Kacey Anthony's TikTok account asyanthonysubstack. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Legal advocate? No, you're not. You would try for the murder of your little girl. Legal advocate, my rear end. And what did I hear her say? She's been involved. Let me look at this. In the legal system since 2011. You mean when you were tried for murder? Joining me, an all star panel. But I just want to remind everybody what this is really about. No one would even know her name if it weren't for this.

[Cindy Anthony]

There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car. Okay, what is the three year old's name? Kaylee. C A Y L E E. Anthony. Haley Anthony. Yes. Okay, is she white, black or Hispanic? She's white. How long has she been missing for? I have not seen her since the 7th of June. What is her date of birth? 8, 8 9, 2000. Oh, God, she's three. She's 2005.

[Nancy Grace]

That is Cindy Atheny, Kelly's grandmother, calling, reporting her missing. Not tot mom, her own mother. Advocate for my daughter. Advocate for my daughter who called 91 1, not you. Listen.

[Cindy Anthony]

Okay, I just can. I mean, I. I understand. Can you just. Can you calm down for me for just a minute? And I need to know what's going on. Okay, I'm gonna try and.

[Nancy Grace]

Advocate for my daughter. Joining me, Jo Scott Morgan, renowned death investigator, professor at JacksonV, author of Blood Beneath my Feet on Amazon and star of Body Bags with Jo Scott Morgan. Reality check. You know, finding out that top mom is offering a sub stack. In other words, you go listen to her and she gets money. By the way, Jo Scott. Already just her announcement has racked up over 3 million views. She gets paid for that if there are ads in there. All of that money is going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would even know her name if she had not been charged with murdering her daughter. Tell me what happened to Kelly.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

I can tell you what the end result was. All we have left now are skeletal remains, period. As a matter of fact, her body, Nancy was so badly decayed after they recovered it from that brushy area out there in that swamp like environment that they could not even come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death. It's non specified homicidal means and it's actually.

[Nancy Grace]

Scott. Excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around the baby's mouth and nose with a heart sticker stuck on it? That gives me a pretty good idea as to how she died. You think you could survive with duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth?

[Jo Scott Morgan]

I'll go one better than that. Nancy. It wasn't around her nose and mouth. It was around her skull. Just let that sink in just for a second. That's what was done to this child. She's cast off like garbage. Nancy. And then, you know, insult to injury here we're talking a month down range before anyone says peep about her missing. And all the while she's been out there just in a state of decay. Nancy. And as you know, Florida is a very harsh environment. There was hardly anything left that scientifically we could really hang our hats on to try to understand what had actually happened to her.

[Nancy Grace]

You know, just saying that. Joe Scott Morgan. And think about it every day. Every day. Tot mom Casey Anthony would pass that spot. As I said, it's about 10 houses down from the Anthony home. And you come out of their cul de sac and if you turn right, you have to pass it. Do you know, just. I don't think I've ever told you this. I have never been back to where my fiance was murdered. Never. Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it and know that's where he was murdered. But she passed this every day and never said a word. Day by day. Think about it, Jo Scott as each hour passes, what happened to Kelly's body? When did flies show up and lay eggs? When did her. Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know it's harsh, Jo. Scott. But this is the reality.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

Yeah, you're. You're right. And in. It's so harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person could have moved back and forth across this. And, you know, court said that she didn't know, or at least they didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give me a break. You know, you're driving by this every single day, and that precious little angel is out there in a state of decay. I can't even begin to plumb the depths of how evil.

[Nancy Grace]

What happens first, Joe Scott? What happens first when her body is in that bag? What happens in the first five hours of her body being in that bag?

[Jo Scott Morgan]

Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida, you're going to have the presence of flies being attracted to this area. And people say, well, she's in a bag. You know, they. They know flies always find a way. They get in and then they begin or they kind of aid in this process of decomposition. And it sped up very, very quickly in that environment, Nancy. And having worked in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the nose within three hours of death.

[Nancy Grace]

Yet today, top mom Casey Anthony returns to Tick Tock stardom.

[Casey Anthony]

Listen, there are people close to me who have been targeted and attacked recently. There are also people close to me who have had some. Some recent things and when necessary, people needed to step up, myself included.

[Nancy Grace]

That is from CaseyAnthonySubstack. Okay. I just heard her say there are people close to me that have been targeted, like Kelly.

[Cindy Anthony]

Is your daughter there? I lied on phone with them. Is your daughter there? Yes. Can I speak with her? Do you mind if I speak with her? Thank you. I called them two hours ago. They haven't gotten here. She finally admitted them. Danny took her a month ago in front of the blind group. Ma'? Am. Ma'. Am. James downstairs. They want to talk to you. Answer the question. Hello? Hello? Yes, Hi. What. Can you. Can you tell me what's going on? A little bit. I'm sorry. Can you tell me a little bit what's going on? My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days. And you know who has her? I know who has her. I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone call today. Now from a number that is no longer in service. I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment. About a minute.

[Shannon Butler]

Okay.

[Cindy Anthony]

Did you guys call and report a vehicle stolen? Yes, my mom did.

[Nancy Grace]

All of that is a lie. She is describing her daughter being taken by the nanny, and today she's saying people close to me have been targeted and attacked. Really? What about Zenida Fernandez Gonzalez? That's a real person that was attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper. That's a real person. That's a woman wandering around, minding her own business. They got dragged into top mom Casey Anthony's vortex. Listen, she even spells the name, for Pete's sake.

[Cindy Anthony]

Who has her? Do you have a name? Her name is Fernandez Gonzalez. Who is that? Babysitter. She's been my nanny for about a year and a half, almost two years. Why. Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call 31 days ago? I've been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her, which was stupid. Okay, can you. Can you give me the name of the nanny again? Like, spell it out for me. Win either. V E N A I D A Fernandez Fernandez Hyphen Gonzalez.

[Nancy Grace]

Man, what a liar. She even knows how to put the hyphen Gonzalez. There's actually a real person out there named Zenida Fernandez Gonzalez. And isn't it true To Shannon Butler, joining me right now, investigative reporter, WFTV Channel 9, Florida. This jurisdiction that when the apartment where tot mom says she dropped off baby Kelly was found by police, it had been vacant for 140 days. 140 days. No one had lived there. Then when she took police to where she worked, to Universal Studios, she got all the way in the car with cops, all the way to the security gate, all the way through the security gate to the building, out of the car, walking in the building to find her boss, and she says, okay, you got me. I haven't worked here in three years. All the time wearing her Universal uniform with her tag, her parents thinking she worked while she sat on the sofa and ate chips while they paid for Kelly. Isn't all of that true?

[Shannon Butler]

That is all true. I remember back then, I mean, I did nothing but this story for three years here in Orlando. And I remember when we talked to the investigators after all of this happened, they said they had never met a better liar than Casey Anthony, that she was so stuck to those stories, even when they were going through universe on there. And she said, oh, yeah, I don't work here. She was so defiant, they said, about the story she was telling, almost looking at them like, you're a bunch of idiots. Hear what I'm saying? This is what happened. And she stuck to those stories. And they said that she was. It was. It was a tough interview. I mean, look at her. You wouldn't think that she would be so married to those stories that these investigators could break quicker. They Said she just kept going and kept going and kept going with those stories. That she either believed those lies or was just dead set on trying to make sure everyone else believed him too.

[Cindy Anthony]

I literally have nothing right now. I'm so hurt by everything. I watched that episode of Nancy Grace and stuff that was being said about me and you don't. You guys are not understanding my side on this.

[Nancy Grace]

What side is that? That you murdered your daughter and left it to decay in a swamp 10 houses down from the Anthony home and then went by her every day. Wait, maybe you didn't drive by it every day because in those 31 days that your daughter was decomposing, you were slung up at your boyfriend's house with all of his roommates. That's romantic. And according to him, you never acted like anything was wrong at all. I guess it bothers me more that Kelly was decomposing with flies all over her body while you were making spaghetti for him and his roommates. Okay, that said, in the last hours. Todd.

Mom.

Casey Anthony's return to stardom. Tick tock fame. Yes, it's real.

[Casey Anthony]

Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name is Casey Anthony. My daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This is not in response to anything that they have said or done. That's not to say that I'm not going to respond at some point to some of the things that they have said and done.

[Nancy Grace]

That was from the TikTok account at Casey Anthony. Underscore substack. Speaking of George Anthony that you dragged through the mud, your own father.

[George Anthony]

Listen, I remember being asked about this at the very beginning when I talked about walking up to that car and getting about three feet away from it. And the smell that emanated from that car. I could smell it three feet away on the passenger side when I opened up that car tour. Yeah, it smelled like decomposition. Human decomposition.

[Nancy Grace]

That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend from our friends at WESH WESH 2 News. But he had to take the stand and describing the overwhelming smell of human decomposition during the search for his granddaughter. And straight out to Shannon Butler, wftv. That car that smelled of human decomp, whose car was that?

[Shannon Butler]

Casey Anthony's speaking of George.

[George Anthony]

Listen, in Casey Anthony's version of events, on June 16, 2008, Casey Anthony claimed she wasn't feeling well and got Kaylee to lay down with her. Anthony claims she was woken by her father shaking her and asking where Kaylee was.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Casey Anthony Claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding Kaylee and that Kaylee was soaking wet. She further claims that George Anthony handed Kaylee to her, saying it was all her fault. She claims George didn't want to call.

[Nancy Grace]

911 and wasn't trying to resuscitate her. So she left and stayed with her.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Boyfriend at the time, Tony Lazzaro.

[Nancy Grace]

For the next 31 days, she claimed.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

She believed Kaylee was alive.

[Nancy Grace]

Okay, let me understand this. You're the defense attorney, Troy Slayton. So she laid down for a nap, woke up, Kelly was gone. And her dad said everything will be okay. After she sees Kelly lifeless and drenched, soaked with water. So she says okay, and goes and slings up with the boyfriend for the next month. Just. Yes.

No.

Does that make sense to you?

[Troy Slayton]

Her grandparents took care of Kaylee all the time. This was not unusual.

[Shannon Butler]

They.

[Troy Slayton]

She was at their house. She was with them. She was an integral part of the family. And it's not unusual for grandparents to look after their granddaughter. And this is a single mom.

[Nancy Grace]

I just want to see if he's keeping a straight face right now. Wait, Troy, do you have children? I believe you do, don't you?

[Troy Slayton]

I absolutely do.

[Nancy Grace]

Oh, okay. So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked in water, and what do you do? You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for 31 days. What are you babbling about? What is this gibberish?

[Troy Slayton]

The jury disagreed with you and agreed you right now.

[Nancy Grace]

Does it make sense to you? Is that what you would do if you saw your child lifeless, drenched with your lover?

[Troy Slayton]

I knew that my child was dead. But you know what's really interesting is that 31 days.

[Nancy Grace]

What's interesting?

[Troy Slayton]

Suddenly the grandparents are calling the police, crying in tears 31 days after their granddaughter, who was with them all the time, is gone. Suddenly on this 31st day, they're calling the police.

[Nancy Grace]

No, that's not what happened. Shannon Butler joining me. Let me refresh your recollection. Troy Slayton. Shannon, WFTV. Isn't it true that during those 31 days, top mom Casey Anthony would repeatedly tell her mother, oh, we're here, we're there. We're at the grocery store, we're at Target. Oh, the nanny has her at the beach. She lied throughout and would never let Grandma Cindy Anthony speak to Kelly. Isn't that true?

[Shannon Butler]

That is correct. I mean, she did give her parents a lot of stories pretending that Kaylee was okay. I think that the parents were concerned about it, but there was no indication at that point that she was Missing or had disappeared. So it took some time in their defense, you know, it took some time because of the stories that Casey was telling them.

[Nancy Grace]

They had no reason to think anything was amiss. Back to Rob Dick. Joining me, this is Top Mom's former bodyguard, now owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter of fact, isn't it true that when you dealt with Topmon Casey Anthony, she acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was wrong. The entire time, that entire 31 days that she apparently had this baby, she acted like nothing was wrong. My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when you were around her, Rob Dick?

[Rob Dick]

Definitely not a person who is, quote, missing a child. I mean, she never acted like that. She acted like there was nothing wrong. Kaylee's name never came up. I mean, this is the time when she's locked away in jail, comes out her first public exposure. I mean, what would a normal mother do? Be asking, where are we at? What's going on? Anybody heard anything? Not once. Is she bringing up Kaylee?

[Nancy Grace]

You mean you had her in the car with you? You drove her to her parents home where she has been freeloading for years. At any point with her in the car, did she cry? Did she seem upset? Did she say, I can't. I've got to go find my daughter. I can't find Kelly. Where's Kelly? Have you heard about Kelly? What's the latest? I didn't have to. I didn't have radio.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

What.

[Nancy Grace]

What's happening with my daughter? Did that ever happen, Rob Dick?

[Rob Dick]

Not once. Not once did she bring her up or even seem to care about looking for her. It was George and Cindy that were trying to find any details, not her.

[Cindy Anthony]

I have someone here that I need to be arrested in my home. They're there right now. Possible missing child. I have a three year old that's been missing for a month. A three year old year old? Yeah. Have you reported that? I'm trying to do that now, ma'. Am. Okay. What did the person do that you need arrested? My daughter. For what? For stealing an auto and stealing money. I already spoke with someone. They said they would patch me through. The Orlando Sheriff's Department have a deputy here. I was in the car. I was going to drive her to the police station and no one's open. They said they would bring a deputy to my home when I got home to call them. So she stole your vehicle? Yes. When did she do that? On the 30th. I just got it back from the impound. I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have someone come out to my house?

[Nancy Grace]

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Now hold on a moment. Not only is top mom Casey Anthony preaching, chewing out vice president Vance about ice, she also is making time to party party at the Avalon beach house, Delray Beach, Florida. Okay, now this is not an AI generated photo, Tom. I'm Casey Anthony is the life of the party at the members only Palm beach reality show found on a video clip. What happened? She was at one of the cast members DJ Maria Cosamanes's DJ party at the Avalon beach house. Why isn't she out doing something good for the world instead of showing up in yet another push up bra? Partying Anthony at the new song launch party, her face clearly seen facing DJ Maria up on the stage. At some point, top mom Casey Anthony gets angry. Is it because she's caught on camera partying in her push up bra? Hey, I don't have anything against push up bras. I'm fine with that. But the reason I'm mad about it here is because during the tot mom Casey Anthony investigation, I viewed footage of her buying beer and push up bras at.

Oh gosh, I guess it was a.

Walmart or a Target somewhere that had really good surveillance video. And this is while her daughter was quote, missing. Yeah, that's why I'm so irritated. And then also while her daughter was missing, missing in quoties I. E. Dead at her hands, she was partying in yet another push up bra at the Fusion nightclub's hot body contest wrapped around a stripper pole. Look, I'm not the church lady.

I don't care.

You can wrap yourself around a stripper pole anytime you want and you won't hear a pee pie to me. But not while your 2 year old baby is quote, missing translation dead in your trunk. That said, let's take a review of the evidence that I would think would be weighing heavily on top mom Casey Anthony's mind. But instead.

[Casey Anthony]

I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011 and in this capacity I feel that it's necessary if I'm going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.

[Nancy Grace]

Advocate for your daughter? Legal advocate in my rear end? Your exposure to the justice system was when you were tried for murder. That is from Acyanthony Substack and it will be a cold day in H E double L before I listen to one episode and give one red penny to tot Mom.

[Cindy Anthony]

How long has she been missing for? My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days. Why? Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call 31 days ago? I've been looking for her, which is stupid.

[Nancy Grace]

Lies. All lies. I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night. And I couldn't agree with you more. Chris says Nancy Casey Anthony's on TikTok claiming to be a legal advocate. Justice for Peyton. When she said she was advocating for her daughter, I felt physically ill. Seeing her follower count up to over 40,000 is nauseated. What the f is wrong with these people? Camping life. With all the lies she told about her daughter, who would believe a word she says? Sandy Cole. I could stomach stuff sending you the video, but guess who's made a social media appearance and claiming to be a legal advocate. I hope you're sitting down. Layla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Casey Anthony on TikTok trying to make a platform for herself. Go yell at her. Don't worry, I will. Lauren Conlon. I'm going to. I can't wait to hear you break down her filthy lies. Okay, let me go to my colleague, Jo Scott Morgan, just for another reality check. Jo Scott, while we are watching tot mom, Casey Anthony's return to stardom and TikTok fame. I never actually thought those words would come out of my mouth, but they are. This isn't her first stab at making money off her dead daughter again. How was Kelly's body found? Just turned three. She's about that big right there.

Listening.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

Yeah, she's. She's found decomposing in the swamp, Nancy, after being cast off. But I've got one more for you as well. Going back to what Rob had said earlier with her in the car with him. Her reaction. Remember what dad said? He went to the car and he smelled decomposition when he got into the car. That doesn't just miraculously happen, you know. You can take a. A deceased person and put them in the car and you're not going to have a whiff of decomposition. It takes time for that to produce itself and present. That baby was in that car for a protracted period of time, traveling all about. All the while she's living the party life, you know?

[Nancy Grace]

Dr. Bethany Marshall, when the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the duration of the trial. And I had the twins with me. Do you know how many times I wish now I could have them at that age again to, you know, take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair, to take them to fun places to go. And I think about this child in a trash bag.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Nancy, Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You know why she was living with her parents, right? George and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally, Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist. And the therapist says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what precipitated all of this. Cindy came home and said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking care of Kaylee. Well, you know what happened then? Casey had only been using her daughter as a pawn with her own grandparents. So as he used to say, she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out with other people, you know, just live the high life. This little girl was only used by her mother. And anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going to participate in that exploitation of a child.

[Nancy Grace]

Thank you, Dr. Bethany. I managed to get myself together. One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes of the victim. And I just did that thinking about my own children at that tender age. I had them with me while I covered the totmom Casey Anthony trial and investigated it myself. But in the very latest tot mom Casey Anthony's return to Tick Tock Tick tock stardom for any idiot that wants to pay for it.

[Casey Anthony]

Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name is Casey Anthony. My daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This is not in response to anything that they have said or done. That's not to say that I'm not going to respond at some point to some of the things that they have said and done.

[Nancy Grace]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents because she once she rides her daughter's corpse to hell and back, then she'll have to find somebody else to attack. And that would be George and Cindy. And that is from acyanthonysubstack. That's the new TikTok account. And speaking of George, he passed a poly top mom. Can't say that.

[George Anthony]

Listen, I didn't know where she was at.

[Cindy Anthony]

Correct.

[Rob Dick]

That's all I'm asking. So the question again, did you knowingly conceal Kaylee's whereabouts?

[Nancy Grace]

No, from our friends at A E. So the story went from I don't know where Kelly is to oh yeah, you know what? I was taking a nap with Kelly and I woke up, she was gone. And I started looking for her. And the next thing I know, my dad showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water. And I just went away and had sex with my boyfriend for 31 days. I thought everything was just be fine. Well, it went from that to George Anthony molested me and my daughter and then he killed my daughter to cover up the molestation. But there's another theory as to why tot mom hatched the molestation story.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Listen, Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A.E. casey Anthony's parents, the lie detector test that the reason her daughter Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation is because.

[Nancy Grace]

She found out that her father, George.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Anthony was the main witness to testify against her in front of the grand jury. Besides the sheriff's department detective, when asked why he testified in front of the grand jury, George Anthony says he believed his daughter Casey Anthony belonged in jail.

[Nancy Grace]

What about that? Defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out of la. You gave me this big song and dance about the baby, but what about dragging your own father through the mud? He got up and testified and subjected himself to cross examination on all of her lies about him molesting little Kelly. She didn't. She sat there silent and watched her parents be destroyed on the stand. So it's okay with you that she drags them through the mud as well? Suddenly when she's on trial for murder, she remembers that her dad sex molested her. Oh, yes. She said her brother sex molested her too, that she was molested and so was Kelly. And the whole reason her father, a former cop, murdered Kelly is because he was covering up molestation on a two year old little girl. Is that okay with you? That she drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money?

[Troy Slayton]

Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict comes out the way we want?

[Nancy Grace]

I mean, I'm asking you about George. I'm asking you about George. You've already gotten on your soapbox about a verdict that the jurors say they regret what that's worth. I'm asking you about George. Dragging him through the mud.

[Troy Slayton]

Dragging him through the mud. This is. The jury believed what she said. Obviously the jury found that there was insufficient evidence.

[Nancy Grace]

That's not what they said. Well, they said they didn't understand cause of death. I'm asking you about her changing story and then dragging George through the mud.

[Troy Slayton]

This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six people thought another thing.

[Nancy Grace]

Or you're not going to address what she did to her father.

[Troy Slayton]

Maybe it was true. We don't know whether or not it was true.

[Cindy Anthony]

Hey. Hey.

[Nancy Grace]

You better watch out, Troy Slayton, because there is something called oral slander, defamation. It'll be a cold day in H. Double that. I stand by and let somebody claim George molested anybody.

[Troy Slayton]

You're calling Casey Anthony.

[Nancy Grace]

Tell me it may be true.

[Troy Slayton]

Not guilty. She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system and everybody here is branding her a murderer.

[Nancy Grace]

And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell and back again. Listen. Can't you hear her, for Pete's sake?

[Casey Anthony]

For those of you who don't know, my name is Casey Anthony. My daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This is not in response to anything that they have said or done. That's not to say that I'm not going to respond at some point to some of the things that they have said and done.

[Nancy Grace]

Tick tock. Acanthony, underscore substack.

[Cindy Anthony]

Can you tell me a little bit what's going on? My daughter's been missing for the last 31 days. And you know who has her? I know who has her. I tried to contact her. I actually received a phone call today. Now from a number that is no longer in service. I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment. About a minute. Okay. Did you guys call and report a vehicle stolen? Yes, my mom did. Okay, so is that a vehicle stolen, too? No, this was my vehicle. What vehicle was stolen? It's a 98 Pontiac Sunfire. Okay. I have deputies on the way to you right now for that. But now you're now your three old. Your three year old is missing. Kaylee Anthony. Yes. White female.

[Nancy Grace]

Yes.

[Cindy Anthony]

White female, 3 years old. 8, 9. 2005. The date of birth. Yes. And you last saw her a month ago? 31 days. Some 31 days.

[Nancy Grace]

Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

Top mom Casey Anthony rears her ugly head again, chewing out VP Vance, whether you agree with him or not. About ice, that's a whole other can of worms. I'm talking about a dead baby. I'm talking about Kelly Anthony. Top mom throws her dad and mom under the bus, chewing them out, making them look bad at trial. Yeah, look at them. Don't look at me. So she takes to her substack to chew out other people as a quote, legal advocate. That hurts. But then parties Hardy at a Palm Beach DJ party. The DJ party was filmed and included in the Netflix show Members Only. Palm Beach Episode four four that follows five women and I question how the hey. Did top mom Casey Anthony get into the party? Okay, very, very strict RSVP's there. Back to Kelly. What happened to that little child? That sweet, sweet little child?

[Cindy Anthony]

Casey says Annie took her. A month ago. I found out my granddaughter has been taken. She has been missing for a month. Her mother finally admitted that she's been missing and you're talking about a three year old little girl. My daughter finally admitted that the baby shouldn't stole her. I need to find her. Your daughter admitted that your the baby is where it said it took her a month ago. That my daughter's been looking for. I told you her daughter was missing from a month. I just found her today. But I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car. Okay, what is the three year old's name? Kaylee. C A Y L E E. Anthony. Haley Anthony. Yes. Okay. Is she white? Block her head. Hispanic News. White. How long has she been missing for? I have not seen her since the 7th of June. Can someone let me. Come on.

[Nancy Grace]

My entire life has been taken from me.

[Cindy Anthony]

Do you understand how I feel? I mean, do you really understand how I feel in this? But I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you.

[Nancy Grace]

Oh my stars. I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. Speaking of all her lies on George, Rob Dick. Joining me, Casey Anthony's former bodyguard, now owner, Renegade Investigations. Rob Dick. Isn't it true that after she was brought home the first time, before she was charged with murder, George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed her up against the wall, demanding to know where's Kelly. Isn't that true?

[Rob Dick]

100%.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

Yeah.

[Rob Dick]

It was obvious at that point. George had no idea. He wanted the answers. He knew that something had happened to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the answers. What happened to Kaylee and this was.

[Nancy Grace]

In front of you as well as Cindy. But at any time did she say, dad, you had her last. Remember when you got her out of the pool after you molested her? Did any of that happen? Rob Dick.

[Rob Dick]

She never brought up those issues until Trial.

[Nancy Grace]

Listen to more of Tot mom in her new money making venture.

[Casey Anthony]

As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for our legal community, women's rights, I feel that it's important that I use this platform that was thrust upon me and now look at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that it has been since 2008.

[Nancy Grace]

Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question, Joe Scott Morgan. When is menopause? Just tell me quick, when is menopause?

[Jo Scott Morgan]

It's variable, dependent upon the population and specific women. You begin to think about 40 to 50, that timeframe generally.

[Nancy Grace]

So we're really not even close. She could still have a baby. That's the only news that could be worse. Right now, Top mom has her hand in my pocket and everybody else is making money off her child. By the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey Anthony. Underscore substack. She could have another baby. It's possible.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

Oh, absolutely.

[Nancy Grace]

We must all say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay, now more of Top mom in her money grab.

[Casey Anthony]

As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for our legal community, women's rights, I feel that it's important that I use this platform that was thrust upon me and now look at as a blessing, as opposed to the curse that it has been since 2008.

[Nancy Grace]

A proponent for the LGBTQ community. What did they ask you to be their advocate? They have enough problems with people attacking them every day just because of who they are, nothing more. With friends like this, who needs an enemy? I don't think they want you advocating for them. Tot Mom. What, like you advocated for your daughter or your mother or your father, who you continue to take advantage of? That is from Tot Mom's TikTok account. C. Anthony Underscore substack.

[George Anthony]

There's more.

[Nancy Grace]

Listen.

[Casey Anthony]

My goal is to continue to help give a voice to people, to give people tools and resources that they can utilize so they actually know where they can turn to.

[Nancy Grace]

Now here is the woman who is asking for your money talking about privacy. I've never seen anything like it since Harry and Meghan and their Worldwide Privacy Tour.

[Casey Anthony]

Listen, I will explain in great detail why it's so important for people to protect their privacy. It's not just important to public figures. It's even more important to private individuals. And with the current climate in our country especially, it's that much more important.

[Nancy Grace]

The current climate, I'm pretty sure taught mom the current climate has always been anti murdering your child. That's from the official Tick Tock account at Casey Anthony underscore substack privacy. Let's see how maintain your privacy. Possibly don't get in a bar fight.

[Cindy Anthony]

So you just need an incident.

[Casey Anthony]

If you can send that to me, I can send it to you. Yeah, no, I have it saved for stuff like that.

[Jo Scott Morgan]

This.

[Cindy Anthony]

Why don't you file a restraining order?

[Casey Anthony]

I didn't have enough to file a restraining order. I had to have actual threats. Her texting was not enough. Her showing up where I was was not enough. This is enough in front of witnesses.

[Nancy Grace]

I'll tell you why Todd mom Casey Anthony didn't file a restraining order after that bar fight from our friends at Channel 6 because nobody would believe that she was the victim. There's more. Maintain privacy. Don't get in a bar fight.

[Casey Anthony]

Again, I apologize.

[Cindy Anthony]

I said not emergency.

[Nancy Grace]

Her friend was here. Several people that I've known for years.

[Casey Anthony]

Are here as witnesses if necessary.

[Nancy Grace]

So I'm not trying to file or restraining order.

[Casey Anthony]

I just wanted to stop and I know we're training.

[Cindy Anthony]

We're at most is good for six.

[Casey Anthony]

Months and it can go away, right?

[Cindy Anthony]

Well, document the incident that happened and I put it as verbal threats because you say that she keeps coming.

[Casey Anthony]

You can tell she threw a drink at me.

[George Anthony]

Along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's substack channel cost $10 a month or $100 annually. Although she offers free subscriptions with limited content.

[Nancy Grace]

$100 for an annual subscription to Tot Mom, Casey Anthony's new TikTok. Take a look at Tot Mom's mother from our friends at A E. And to sit here and listen to her keep making different stories as it fits. I'm having a hard time.

[Cindy Anthony]

I'm having a panic attack.

[Nancy Grace]

I'm sorry, Dr. Bethany. Why can't Cindy breathe Right there.

[Dr. Bethany Marshall]

Cindy is having a panic attack. Her heart rate is elevated. She's overwhelmed. She can't think because she is reminiscing about her granddaughter's death. She's having intrusive thoughts and memories. She's thinking about that little girl lying in a swamp. She's being interviewed. So when people have trauma and they begin to talk about the original event, it actually reactivates the trauma. It's as if they're in it. Nancy, you've heard of the term flashback with people who have post traumatic stress disorder, they have flashbacks. She is in a flashback And George knows how to comfort her. You know, this could have torn this couple apart. But they have become more and more solid over time. Unlike their daughter, who's not bonded with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded with each other. And they care and love they. They care for and love each other.

[Nancy Grace]

I just wonder what this new return where tot mom rears her ugly head. Most people would run for the hills as if they had seen a monster. But apparently There are nearly 3,000 subscribers as we go to air. But this isn't her first money grab by far.

Listen.

[George Anthony]

In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a react reality TV show about her life. The proposal submitted on her behalf would provide an intimate window into the daily life of one of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating. She will share her thoughts and opinions and will give an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the guts to pick it up. He wants to watch it.

[Nancy Grace]

A reality show. In each episode, Top mom goes about her day working, socializing and dating. To Shannon Butler. Joining me WFTV Channel 9. I can only imagine what this is doing to George and Cindy Anthony. The re emergence of tot mom. She says she will address her parents. She just released a statement threatening people if they slander her or defame her. I can only imagine what she's going to say about them.

[Shannon Butler]

You know, we still see them from time to time. They still live here. They still have their home. And I think what people maybe forget about what happened to George and Cindy. It wasn't just what happened during that, but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their house was in foreclosure. They had a hard time, you know, getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident a few years ago. A lot has happened to them and it is difficult even now when you see them, you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant to, to imagine what these folks are going through. And I think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing. I don't think that many people are surprised that she has now reemerged. I think that was always going to be the plan down the road, but I think that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next because for them, it just seems to never, ever end.

[Nancy Grace]

Let me remind as Troy Slayton has done, so Tom Nom. Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course, the jurors now say they regret that and they were wrong. But so what? She was acquitted, but every time that you subscribe or download her gibberish and lies, you're putting another dollar in her pocket.

[Cindy Anthony]

It who has her? Do you have a name? Her name is Z. Fernandez Golis. Who is that? Babysitter. She's been my nanny for about a year and a half, almost two years. Why? Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call 31 days ago? I've been looking for her and have gone through other resources to to try to find her, which was stupid.

[Nancy Grace]

In other Top Mom Casey Anthony News Looks like Top mom has snagged another man. What is he thinking she was spotted wearing? Always include her outfits. A sleeveless, nearly backless black top and jeans at the season's Tickets Bar, Manchester, NH with a bearded man. Does her dinner date not know who he's eating with? I don't know. Maybe some guys like that. I'm not really sure. But I want to revisit her on her sub stack claiming I am a legal advocate. I've been in the legal field since 2011 when you're charged with murder. Listen to Topm. I'm KC Anthony on our substack.

[Casey Anthony]

I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011 and in this capacity I feel that it's necessary if I'm going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.

[Nancy Grace]

Aside from having dinner with unsuspecting men, ranting and and preaching from her substack and attending DJ parties, Top Mom Casey Anthony also took a few moments to curse out stating F you to Megyn Kelly about one of Megyn Kelly's podcast episodes. You would think at this point Top mom would get it and go try to do something good for the world. You know, volunteer somewhere, do something good. But no, that is not going to happen. When you don't know a horse, look at her track record. When you don't know what someone's going to do, look at what they've already done. We wait as justice unfolds for Top Mom Casey Anthony. Nancy Grace signing off. Little Kaylee, rest in peace.

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