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Hey everyone, I'm Ann Emerson. Welcome to Criminally Obsessed. A teenage girl was brutally killed and her murderers walked free for decades. That's until the Louisiana State Police did something no one expected. They pitched a podcast to catch her killers. And it worked.
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Any individuals mentioned in this podcast are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The goal is to seek justice, provide awareness, and encourage the public to come forward with any relevant information.
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16 year old Roxanne Sharp was a quiet but tough young mother who went missing back in February of 1982.
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You know that she had a great laugh, but you didn't hear it, you know, too often.
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About a week after her disappearance, Roxanne's body was found in the woods of a parish north of New Orleans. She was naked and severely beaten.
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The word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful.
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Police suspected she was the victim of a serial killer. But which one? There were two, not one, but two serial killers.
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I think that they just really overshadowed what, what could have happened in Roxanne's
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case, what happened was nothing. The case went cold, ice cold. But the detectives never gave up.
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If there's a stereotype, you know, of this, you know, detective getting obsessed with a crime and wanting to solve it, he. That's him.
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More than 40 years later, the Louisiana State Police asked a local radio host, Charles Doughty, to produce a podcast on the case. They knew someone knew something somewhere, and they were right. Last April, police arrested four men with Roxanne Sharp's murder. I spoke with Charles Doughty, he's the host of who Killed Roxanne. He was shocked that so many people came out of the woodwork with new information that had been buried from for generations. Be sure to like and subscribe and turn on your notifications to crimly obsessed. We want to share the stories that you just can't miss. Now let's get into it. Well, Charles, Daddy, thank you so much for joining me. I've got a big smile on my face right now because it is so rare to hit this sort of incredible story like this. You know, it's very, it's very rare for us journalists to get, you know, sort of the outcome that you hope in true crime. So congratulations. Well, thank you. Because you, you hit it.
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I'm a local radio guy. We own a small broadcasting company in southeast Louisiana. And so we all wear multiple hats and, and so I do a shift every morning. We're hyper local. So I interview local DAs, judges, mayors, and then a lot of nonprofits. Also interviewed the Louisiana State Police and I'd gotten to know their public information officer, and we produce podcasts, but we had never done a true crime podcast. And so I said, if you ever have something good, bring it to me. And to get two. Two guys showed up one day in full uniform. I thought maybe I was getting arrested for a minute. And they presented me with Roxanne's case or with her story, and I was hooked immediately. It was a lot to take in in a short period of time. So there was a lot I didn't understand as we started. But it is an amazing story, a sad and amazing story right off the
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bat, I have to say. Like, to find justice, to find out the truth, to kind of go through that is. So. It's a long, hard slog and rare. Rarely does it actually happen. You know, you even say in the first episode as you got into this, don't expect anything, guys. Like, we're just, we're just presenting a case. We're just, we're just going to tell you what happened.
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Yeah. And, and at the time, that, that was exactly what I thought. I wasn't making that up. So, you know, I felt like we could lay the story out in a, in a way that I, I hoped would be good. I didn't know, you know, really what was going to happen after that. And truth be told, I think I said, you know, I know how this story starts. I kind of know what's going to happen in the middle. I don't know what's going to happen at the end. Still dark. You know, we're still waiting to see how this is going to end because we have four men charged with this crime. But we, you know, there's still a long ways to go before this story is fully told.
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Well, absolutely. Let's go back. I mean, basically, when these officers came to you, why did they want to reopen this? What. What was it that, that really, like, spurred them to do this one?
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I do think the investigator in the case, who I did not know prior to starting this podcast, but his name is Stephen Montgomery, and, and I, I, I think that he had really begun to live with this case. And if there's a stereotype, you know, of this, you know, detective getting obsessed with a crime and wanting to solve it, he. That's him. I mean, and with this one, for whatever reason, he felt like that this, this case could be solved. And, and so, you know, he had, as you can imagine, 40 years worth of documents where, you know, they, they opened the case and closed it and Opened it and closed it. And so he went through all of it and, and condensed it down to something that, you know, he could work with. And, and so they approached me about the time that, that he was looking for media, he was looking for press. He wanted somebody to do a story on it.
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Why did he want the media involved? I mean, was it just so ice cold at that point? They were like, the only way, only way this is going to work is if people start talking.
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I think that on some level it was, I think somebody used the term. I don't think it was Stefan, but it was dead in the water in the sense that they had just kind of run up against a wall. And so what he talked about later, he and I talked about later was he was surprised not only with the information they got locally, but the fact that the podcast was able to reach people all over the country. And so there were people that had maybe been in the Covington area in 1982 that had moved off. And so they were able to listen to that story and where maybe, you know, before they didn't want to get involved for whatever reason, you know, this time they decided they would.
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Were you surprised at how, I mean, from what you were saying? I, you know, from first episode into the second episode, as you're sort of introducing this, you know, young 16 year old mom victim, Roxanne Sharpe, you know, as you're introducing that, are you thinking, is anybody going to know who I'm talking about from 1982? Is that what's going through your mind?
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It absolutely was. And I think I even made a comment to that point in either episode one or two, and, and we were quickly corrected. You know, there were some people that, both through social media and email and who let us know that, yes, they knew who Roxanne was or she was a friend and, you know, a lot of Roxanne's family is gone now, but she definitely left an imprint on plenty of people. And, and those people let us know, yes, there are people that care. Maybe there are some people that care that just feel like nothing's ever going to happen.
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I would be so surprised if that happened to me. And all of a sudden everybody starts coming out of the woodwork on a, on an ice cold case.
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There were a lot of unanswered questions about where people were, who they were with, what they had been doing. Roxanne was missing for a few days before, or at least kind of off the radar for a few days before she. And so there were questions about, you know, where where was she and who was she with? And so I think they were able, through this, some of these tips and. And some of the work that was done by police after some of these tips came in, they were able to answer some of these questions that until then, they had not been able to answer. And I think that was able to propel the investigation forward. And so, as we continue to tell the story, I do think, you know, that we were not subtle about asking for help. More than anything else, we are trying to get as many people involved in Roxanne's story as we can with the hope that at some point, we hit the right person who might know something that can help solve Roxanne's crime. So, please, keep working, Keep spreading the word, and thank you. You know, it's kind of a sledgehammer in terms of trying to get people to come forward. And I think that that sledgehammer eventually, you know, helped. Helped that to happen.
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What happened to Roxanne when she was murdered? What happened to this young girl?
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I'll tell you this. When those two police officers came in the very first day, and we were talking about the case, and I was asking what I would have access to and what I wouldn't. They. They agreed that we'd go out and recreate the crime scene with their data, and they'd show me where everything was found. And I was able to see old reports. I got to see stuff that the FBI wrote in 1982. And so really cool stuff. But they said, you will never see the actual crime scene photos of her body. They said, once you see that, you cannot unsee it. I did read about the crime, and the word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful. She died at the hands of three or four men, and four men are charged with this crime. Yeah, the psych was. It's near downtown Covington. It's near that neighborhood called the Ozone I was telling you about, but it's also near the Covington fairgrounds. And so her body was discovered in a wooded area well off the road. And as we put together the crime scene from way back then and used and marked off where each piece of evidence was found. And it was clear that she was grabbed on the road and pulled back into those woods. And they literally stripped her clothes off as she was going through the woods until they got her pretty much in the middle of that wooded area, and that's where she was discovered.
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So you didn't see the crime scene photos, but I would assume that this detective who. Stefan Montgomery, who's. Who's held on to this case for all these years now, he had to see all that, didn't he?
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Absolutely. And. And like I said, I've read the descriptions. I think that's enough.
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Well, I just wonder if that's what just. Just leveled them, you know? You know, for him. I know a lot. You keep. Like, I've got a bunch of pictures of, of different victims and things on my wall too, because I don't want to forget what they look like, and I don't want to forget, you know, who they are as a person. I would imagine that that might have had quite an impact on. On someone who just couldn't quite crack the case. Tell me about Covington.
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Covington right now is a whole lot different than what is presented in the story. So it is. It's a great little town, and I work in St. Tammany Parish every day. I love Saint Tammany. It formally was kind of a bedroom community for the city of New Orleans. It's connected by the causeway and everybody commuted back and forth. And that's certainly not the case anymore. It has its own identity and a lot of industry and does quite well. But. But back then it was a different place, much, much smaller and more rural. And for whatever reason, there was just this collection of individuals in a neighborhood called the ozone. That very strange that this group came together the way they did and, and, and who they kind of were and, and how they behaved. And so I would call that it was just unusual, an unlikely gathering of individuals. And, and they were, you know, they were tough and so. And their families were tough. And so I do think that. And we talk about this a good bit in the podcast, but I think fear early on played a big role and people maybe not wanting to get involved. And so I think the passage of time has helped with that and, and I think the podcast, by kind of just blaring it out the way it did, I think that helped a little bit with that as well. So. So I do think it's a. It's a wonderful place to live. Now. It was probably a pretty great place to live then, but you did have an element there, a group of folks that were pretty tough.
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And Roxanne fell in with that group.
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She did. She was very poor. Her family, you know, she just had a tough start to her life. Now, by all accounts, she was something not very tall, maybe five foot one, I think, and slim and an attractive girl. But she, she was a survivor. And so she hitchhiked everywhere she went. She was often in the company of older men, got pregnant, had a child at a young, young age.
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How old was she? I mean, if she was 16 when she passed away and was murdered and she had an 18 month old.
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Correct.
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She was barely a teenager.
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Correct. I would hate for anybody to judge my teenage years. And I was not in the same situation as Roxanne. So we don't know. You know, obviously we'll never know where Roxanne's life would have gone from that point. But, but the word I keep coming back to is, until that night, she was just a survivor. She found a way to, to kind of continue to push forward. We did talk to people who talked about her and, you know, there were guys who described her as tough, as quiet, you know, that she had a great laugh, but you didn't hear it, you know, too often, things like that.
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So you've done, you've done some interviews with the family. Tell me what stuck, what stuck with you with that?
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Just that this crime destroyed that family, you know, it, it really did. When you look at the impacts it had on the individuals in that family, it was just deadly, as deadly as it was to Roxanne. And so the ones that are left, you know, I really, really want justice for them and, and hope that they can find it.
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What have they said to you about this?
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You know, mostly the. I'm in touch with one of them who is kind of their spokesperson. And she was there that day at the press conference and just, you know, she was very emotional, extremely happy and, you know, wants to, wants to see this through. Like I just talked about.
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Well, Charles, I mean, you literally had to, like, not only look for people and who would be involved, but there were two, not one, but two serial killers.
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Right, right.
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I mean, what's in the water down there? Like, what's going on?
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The second one didn't belong to us. He came in from out of town. But the first one, you know, if you've seen the, the movie Dead Man Walking, he is the basis for the character, for Sean Penn's character in that. And, and I think in the last episode I talked to a gentleman that, that probably knew him as well as anybody. And we talked about, about Robert Willian and, you know, he was a serial killer and a horrible human being, but Donald Sharp's able to kind of humanize him a little bit in some ways in the way that they interacted with one another. And Donald Sharp, again, is a retired deputy with the Saint Tammany Sheriff's office. He was their chief deputy for years and years. To hear him tell it, you know, Robert Willie was showing signs at a very, very young age of being what he became. You know, as a 12 and 13 year old, people were already taking steps to kind of walk around him. And he was not a large man, but he, you know, just had a. Some kind of ferocious Persona.
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I guess he was at the center of some of this. And, and then there was another serial killer who, who was also, you know, putting up a hand, you know, giving, giving information.
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I think that they just really overshadowed what, what could have happened in Roxanne's case.
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But y' all showed up and, and got some word out. One thing I kept on thinking about was, and I think you answered in your podcast, but I'd love for you to kind of tell us a little bit about why was DNA, I mean, at such a graphic crime scene. How did, how did her DNA, how did the suspect's DNA like, was it, was it salvageable?
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It was explained to me that if this crime occurred today, people would be in jail almost immediately between. So, so yes, there was a lot of DNA on the left on the scene and a lot of bodily fluids. But. And that'll all. If there is a trial, I assume that a good bit of these details will come out of the trial. But, you know, at the time they were able to do some basic work, there was a good, you know, the, the FBI, the profiling had just started and so they did some profiling that if, if these four gentlemen are convicted that are charged, not gentlemen, if these four men that are convicted or charged, then that profiling is going to be really interesting to look back at because it, it looks like it was, it was pretty good. And then, and then just things happened over the years. A little bit of the evidence was apparently lost during Hurricane Katrina. So they had, they had set some of that evidence aside and, and we had the storm of the century and, and you know, among all the other things that were lost may have been some of the evidence in Roxanne's case. So. So, you know, we'll see where they land with the DNA at, you know, at time for trial. But, you know, I don't know the answer to what they have exactly, but
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do you know what really solved the case? Like, were they able to give you some kind of smoking gun?
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They did not. That's why I think the podcast isn't quite finished. I would like to finish telling Roxanne's story. And there's some, there's some aspects of it that I don't know either that I want to know. But. But I do not think this is a case of a smoking gun. I think this is a case of a lot of small pieces. And. And we'll see how these four defendants do as. As this thing moves forward. You know, you've got four individuals who are from at this. You know, two were in one place and two were living their lives. And so, you know, I don't know how they're going to react when, you know, when. When push comes to shove.
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Who are the suspects, though, or individuals
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that were known to Roxanne? Perry Taylor, Daryl Spell, Carlos Cooper and Billy Williams Jr. Are their names. Perry Taylor was involved in a crime with. With Robert Willie early on. Pretty heinous crime where.
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That's our serial killer, right?
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Yeah. Robert Willie was the serial killer. And Robert Willie and Perry took a guy named Dennis Himbeat. They met him in a bar and in Covington, and he was. Dennis had come from out of town and was selling dope. And so they convinced him to leave with them and they were going to go sit on the riverbank and smoke some dope and they were gonna. In reality, they wanted to rob him. And so Robert Willie and Dennis Envy were fighting and Robert Willie was losing. And Perry Taylor, mile accounts, came and sat on Dennis Hemby's head in about a foot of water and drowned him. They hid the body. That body was not found for about five years. So there. And that's another weird thing about this, is that as Roxanne's story was being originally told, there were things that were happening that were unknown to the public that were just kind of popping up, you know, the Dennis Hemby's body showing up years later. And so, you know, just. It was a lot. It's hard to, you know, you need a little bit of a map to track it all because there was a lot going on.
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But these four suspects, they were. They were. Were they in the ozone that you're talking about? Were they in that area? So they. When you were working on the podcast, did you have your. Did you have your sights on them?
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I. There were certainly times where I heard rumors that I was unwilling to put into the podcast. So I do a lot of speculating in the podcast and I try to make it clear when I am doing that, because I think a few times I was sort of right. And there were quite a few times I was wrong. And there's still more wrong to be determined. We'll see when this thing fleshes out. But. But yes, those were names that were heard. Some of these names are in the podcast as being involved in other situations. And. And. But never at any time did I feel like I knew enough to. To put one of these names forward as Roxanne's killer prior to that press conference that day.
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But did you think that they were.
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I. I thought that the crime was a local crime. I certainly didn't think that Henry Lucas did it.
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He's the other serial killer.
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I. I felt like. I felt like it was a crime where Roxanne said no to the wrong guy.
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And.
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And that's what I felt like.
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I mean, as far as when you got into that podcast, when did the tide start turning?
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I can't tell you the exact episodes off the top of my head, but there were a couple of times when we were doing interviews where I felt like he was a little more sassy than he had been at the start of this thing. And so I used that in ways that I thought really were cool and made it sound good. But there was no question at the end of episode seven, he said something in one of our interviews, and I was like, we've come a long way from episode one, you know, and again, I knew things were happening, but I didn't know exactly what. And so, just based on the way he was acting, he's a pretty cautious guy. He's, I think, methodical to the extreme. And so to hear him, you know, kind of mouth off a little bit, I was like, all right, you know, we're definitely moving forward faster than I thought we were. Do you think the people who are responsible for Roxanne's death have heard this podcast? I'm pretty positive they have. All right, if that's correct, then what do you say to them? See you soon.
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That's so exciting. Yeah, I mean, exciting in terms of being able to get to some level of justice, you know, I do think that the idea that this mystery, this case could actually come to some kind of conclusion is incredible. When you got the word Charles, there's a moment in your podcast that sticks out that you're. You just decided to just sort of start recording. You're in the car, you can. You're in the dark, trying to figure out, like, what. What is about to occur.
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Here we are a year and a half down the road from the start of the podcast. I sit here and wonder, what's next? Will anything ever happen? And then something did.
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What was going through your mind when the. The light bulb kind of went off? That, that, that, that there, that there was something that, that was going to finally happen here. What did that feel like?
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I, I didn't think we were doing all that because there weren't going to be arrests. So I was pretty confident that we were arresting some people, you know, that I'd even heard some names bounced around. But, you know, it was emotional thinking about that in that car that morning. And so I, you know, I, I did it again after, after the press conference. I kind of wanted to close that window, that circle, but, but I was surprised at the, the emotion that I felt considering I never met Roxanne. You know, this is a 40 plus year old case, but, you know, it, it just felt, it felt good to know that people cared and that they'd come forward and that we were hopefully going to see this through.
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Did they attribute it to the podcast they gave us?
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Yes, they gave us plenty of credit. And then I was there at the pot, at the, they let me be in the press conference. So it was me and the head of Louisiana State Police and the DA And I was, I felt totally inadequate and out of place, but really, really cool. And, and, and you know, even answered a few questions about what we did with the podcast. But again, looking at, we got a lot of press and it was great, but there were some magazine headlines where I was like, oh please, that's a little too much. You know, there were other folks that were involved in this. The podcast was certainly a contributor to this success. But you know, again, you had an investigator that worked awfully hard for a long, long time to bring this thing to light.
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So you don't know who actually spilled the beans about who these four suspects were.
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I do not.
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Talk to me about what happens next in this case. Like, as you said, like this, this podcast isn't over until it's over. Like what happens.
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These four gentlemen have been charged. These four men have been charged
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and
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they are now waiting for indictment. So the, the indictment, the DA said in the press conference would happen within a few weeks, so that indictment should come down. I plan on doing another episode at the time of that indictment. And then, and then I'll, I'll be in a lull for a while. I'm, I'm not done. But, but we'll either wait and see if somebody pleads out or if, if there's a trial. And if there's a trial, they're going to, they're going to push to try to get this trial done as quickly as possible because you have witnesses and individuals that are older, on the older side with a 40, you know, 3 year old, 42 year old cold case. So, so I want to be there at the trial. I want to tell the end of Roxanne's story and, and I want to stay connected to her family. They've been a part of this. And so I want to, I kind of, I hope to end with her family and talk about in a perfect world, we'll talk about justice for Roxanne and what that means for that family.
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What do you think Roxanne would have said to see this come to, to come full circle?
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I don't know, but I probably would have been colorful and it would have been good. She, you know, I, I don't know. It took four of them. I'll say that. According to the who's been charged. Like I said, she was tough and, and I just think that I'd like to have seen what she said. How about that?
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Yeah, I bet it was colorful. I bet she's like, I'll be damned. You got them?
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Yeah.
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Go throw them in a hole. Right after doing this case, are you doing more cold cases?
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Absolutely. And, and we're gonna still. Still trying to figure out exactly which one. There are some great untold stories. Right. They're close to home. So I think that's where we're going to stay. I've been approached by a few people about, you know, how that happens, you know, and honestly, I've been approached by people around the country and I, I just, the way I'm working right now, I feel like use the local connection, stay where I am and tell the stories close to home. So hadn't, hadn't landed exactly on which one, but absolutely, I'm going to do this again.
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You know what I love about that, Charles, is that because from my own experience, I spent years working on a big, big case down just south of me in Walterboro and the Alec Murdoch case. And what I loved about doing what you're talking about that I think is very successful. You're in your territory. So as you go into areas, it's just that familiarity really, really pays off. So I can't wait to see what you do next. Honestly, I think that also I think that people will be eager to talk to you.
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Well, I want to thank you so much for this opportunity to promote the pod.
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Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, well, we can't wait to have you back when we get this trial started.
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Absolutely.
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This case is not over yet. A grand jury has indicted the four suspects on charges of aggravated rape and second degree murder. Next, the formal arraignment. Will they plead before the trial? Or maybe they turn state's evidence. We're just going to have to wait and see how it plays out. Drop a comment below. Tell me what you think about solving a case with a podcast like subscribe and turn on your notifications here at Crimly Obsessed and we'll keep you updated as this story develops.

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Podcast Summary: Criminally Obsessed

Episode: Why It Took 44 Years (and a True Crime Podcast) to Bring Charges in Roxanne Sharp’s Killing

Host: Anne Emerson
Guest: Charles Doughty (Host of Who Killed Roxanne)
Date: May 26, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the decades-old murder of 16-year-old Roxanne Sharp in Louisiana, examining how a locally-produced podcast reignited an ice-cold case. Host Anne Emerson interviews Charles Doughty, the radio host and podcaster whose investigative series sparked new leads, culminating in the arrest of four men after 44 years. The episode highlights the unique partnership between law enforcement and media, the persistence of investigators, and the transformative power of telling a victim’s story with compassion.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Roxanne Sharp’s Case: The Tragic Crime and Immediate Fallout

Roxanne Sharp, a 16-year-old mother, disappeared in February 1982.
- "She was naked and severely beaten." [00:43, Emerson]
The brutality of the crime shocked investigators and overshadowed the town.
- "The word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful." [00:51, Doughty]
Covington, LA, was grappling with two serial killers at the time, complicating the investigation.
- "There were two, not one, but two serial killers." [00:58, Emerson]

2. The Cold Case and Detective Obsession

Despite 40 years with no resolution, some detectives, notably Stephen Montgomery, never gave up.
- "If there’s a stereotype...of this detective getting obsessed with a crime and wanting to solve it, he. That’s him." [01:22, Doughty]
Police archives for the case totaled thousands of pages—reopened and re-examined repeatedly.
- "He went through all of it and condensed it down..." [04:53, Doughty]

3. The Unlikely Role of a Podcast

Louisiana State Police reached out to Charles Doughty, a local radio host with no prior true crime podcast experience, to produce a series on Roxanne, hoping to shake loose new information.
- "They presented me with Roxanne's case...I was hooked immediately." [02:41, Doughty]
The approach was honest and tempered:
- "You even say in the first episode...don’t expect anything, guys. Like, we’re just presenting a case." [03:41, Emerson]
Doughty was skeptical anyone would remember Roxanne, but listeners immediately reached out, proving her memory lingered in the community.
- "We were quickly corrected...they knew Roxanne or she was a friend..." [07:08, Doughty]

4. Crowd-Sourced Leads and Community Impact

The podcast openly asked listeners to come forward, resulting in previously hidden witnesses and new tips.
- "It’s kind of a sledgehammer...trying to get people to come forward. And I think that that sledgehammer eventually helped." [07:40, Doughty]
Many were motivated by changing times and fading fears of local power dynamics that once kept them silent.

5. Revisiting the Crime and Its Aftermath

Roxanne was pulled off a rural road, stripped, beaten, and killed in the woods. Evidence and early DNA were limited by the technology of the era—and some was lost during Hurricane Katrina.
- "They said, you will never see the actual crime scene photos of her body. They said, once you see that, you cannot unsee it." [09:06, Doughty]
Roxanne’s family was devastated, with only a few survivors who now hope for justice.
- "This crime destroyed that family...as deadly as it was to Roxanne." [14:37, Doughty]

6. Local Context: Covington and Its Shadows

Covington was a small, rural community with clusters of “tough” families and outsiders—at times an intimidating environment.
- "For whatever reason, there was just this collection of individuals...an unlikely gathering...They were tough and so. And their families were tough." [11:28, Doughty]
Roxanne’s plight was shaped by poverty, early motherhood, and her ties to these fringes.
- "She was very poor. Her family, you know, she just had a tough start to her life...She hitchhiked everywhere." [13:08, Doughty]

7. The Suspects and Serial Killer Overlap

Four men—Perry Taylor, Daryl Spell, Carlos Cooper, and Billy Williams, Jr.—were ultimately charged, all known to Roxanne, with overlaps linked to notorious local killers.
- "Perry Taylor was involved in a crime with Robert Willie early on. Pretty heinous crime..." [19:53, Doughty]
The specter of two serial killers (e.g., Robert Willie, the inspiration for Dead Man Walking) loomed over the case, muddling the investigation and local perceptions.

8. DNA, Lost Evidence, and “No Smoking Gun”

DNA evidence was incomplete, with some lost over the years. Instead, the resolution came through dozens of small tips and relentless digging.
- "It was explained to me that if this crime occurred today, people would be in jail almost immediately...A little bit of the evidence was apparently lost during Hurricane Katrina." [17:36, Doughty]
- "I do not think this is a case of a smoking gun. I think this is a case of a lot of small pieces." [19:13, Doughty]

9. The Moment of Breakthrough

Doughty describes recording heartfelt moments in real time as the case began to crack:
- "Here we are a year and a half down the road...I sit here and wonder, what’s next? Will anything ever happen? And then something did." [24:34, Doughty]
- "I was surprised at the emotion that I felt considering I never met Roxanne...but it just felt, it felt good to know that people cared and that they’d come forward..." [25:03, Doughty]

10. The Podcast’s Real Impact

Both law enforcement and the community credited the podcast for shaking loose key information.
- "They gave us plenty of credit...The podcast was certainly a contributor to this success." [25:51, Doughty]

11. What Comes Next

The four men are awaiting indictment (which came after the podcast was recorded), with arraignments and potential trials ahead. Doughty is committed to continuing coverage.
- "I want to tell the end of Roxanne’s story and, and I want to stay connected to her family...talk about justice for Roxanne..." [27:01, Doughty]
Doughty intends to keep his true crime work hyper-local:
- "Use the local connection, stay where I am and tell the stories close to home." [28:47, Doughty]
Emerson affirms the power of local journalism to effect change, referencing her own experience on the Alec Murdoch case.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"The word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful."
– Charles Doughty [00:51]
"I wasn't making that up. I know how this story starts...I don't know what's going to happen at the end."
– Charles Doughty [04:06]
"We were not subtle about asking for help...More than anything else, we are trying to get as many people involved in Roxanne's story as we can."
– Charles Doughty [07:40]
"If there's a stereotype of a detective getting obsessed with a crime...that’s him."
– Charles Doughty on Investigator Stephen Montgomery [01:22 and 04:53]
"I was surprised at the emotion that I felt considering I never met Roxanne..."
– Charles Doughty [25:03]
"They gave us plenty of credit...The podcast was certainly a contributor to this success."
– Charles Doughty [25:51]
Q (Emerson): "Do you think the people who are responsible for Roxanne's death have heard this podcast?"
A (Doughty): "I'm pretty positive they have." [23:22–24:02]
“What do you say to them?” – “See you soon.” [24:02]

Timestamps for Important Segments

[00:30] Roxanne Sharp’s profile and story introduction.
[01:22] Detective Stephen Montgomery’s obsession with the case.
[02:41] How the case came to the attention of Charles Doughty.
[07:08] Community response, listeners come forward.
[09:06] Crime scene recreation and brutality described.
[14:37] Impact on Roxanne’s family.
[17:36] DNA, lost evidence, and limitations of old forensic methods.
[19:13] No “smoking gun” – piecing together lots of small clues.
[19:53] Naming the suspects and their connections to prior crimes.
[24:34] Emotional moment as the investigation finally advances.
[25:51] Law enforcement attributes breakthrough to the podcast.
[27:01] Next steps: indictments, upcoming trial coverage.

Episode Tone & Character

The conversation is compassionate, thoughtful, and persistent—matching the tone of a dedicated local journalist and a community advocate. Both Anne Emerson and Charles Doughty maintain respect for Roxanne and her family while balancing the procedural twists of true crime storytelling. Listeners get an inside look at a case defrosting after decades—and the moving human stakes at the heart of investigative journalism.

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[00:00]
A
Hey everyone, I'm Ann Emerson. Welcome to Criminally Obsessed. A teenage girl was brutally killed and her murderers walked free for decades. That's until the Louisiana State Police did something no one expected. They pitched a podcast to catch her killers. And it worked.
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B
Any individuals mentioned in this podcast are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The goal is to seek justice, provide awareness, and encourage the public to come forward with any relevant information.
[00:30]
A
16 year old Roxanne Sharp was a quiet but tough young mother who went missing back in February of 1982.
[00:39]
B
You know that she had a great laugh, but you didn't hear it, you know, too often.
[00:43]
A
About a week after her disappearance, Roxanne's body was found in the woods of a parish north of New Orleans. She was naked and severely beaten.
[00:52]
B
The word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful.
[00:58]
A
Police suspected she was the victim of a serial killer. But which one? There were two, not one, but two serial killers.
[01:08]
B
I think that they just really overshadowed what, what could have happened in Roxanne's
[01:15]
A
case, what happened was nothing. The case went cold, ice cold. But the detectives never gave up.
[01:23]
B
If there's a stereotype, you know, of this, you know, detective getting obsessed with a crime and wanting to solve it, he. That's him.
[01:31]
A
More than 40 years later, the Louisiana State Police asked a local radio host, Charles Doughty, to produce a podcast on the case. They knew someone knew something somewhere, and they were right. Last April, police arrested four men with Roxanne Sharp's murder. I spoke with Charles Doughty, he's the host of who Killed Roxanne. He was shocked that so many people came out of the woodwork with new information that had been buried from for generations. Be sure to like and subscribe and turn on your notifications to crimly obsessed. We want to share the stories that you just can't miss. Now let's get into it. Well, Charles, Daddy, thank you so much for joining me. I've got a big smile on my face right now because it is so rare to hit this sort of incredible story like this. You know, it's very, it's very rare for us journalists to get, you know, sort of the outcome that you hope in true crime. So congratulations. Well, thank you. Because you, you hit it.
[02:41]
B
I'm a local radio guy. We own a small broadcasting company in southeast Louisiana. And so we all wear multiple hats and, and so I do a shift every morning. We're hyper local. So I interview local DAs, judges, mayors, and then a lot of nonprofits. Also interviewed the Louisiana State Police and I'd gotten to know their public information officer, and we produce podcasts, but we had never done a true crime podcast. And so I said, if you ever have something good, bring it to me. And to get two. Two guys showed up one day in full uniform. I thought maybe I was getting arrested for a minute. And they presented me with Roxanne's case or with her story, and I was hooked immediately. It was a lot to take in in a short period of time. So there was a lot I didn't understand as we started. But it is an amazing story, a sad and amazing story right off the
[03:41]
A
bat, I have to say. Like, to find justice, to find out the truth, to kind of go through that is. So. It's a long, hard slog and rare. Rarely does it actually happen. You know, you even say in the first episode as you got into this, don't expect anything, guys. Like, we're just, we're just presenting a case. We're just, we're just going to tell you what happened.
[04:06]
B
Yeah. And, and at the time, that, that was exactly what I thought. I wasn't making that up. So, you know, I felt like we could lay the story out in a, in a way that I, I hoped would be good. I didn't know, you know, really what was going to happen after that. And truth be told, I think I said, you know, I know how this story starts. I kind of know what's going to happen in the middle. I don't know what's going to happen at the end. Still dark. You know, we're still waiting to see how this is going to end because we have four men charged with this crime. But we, you know, there's still a long ways to go before this story is fully told.
[04:43]
A
Well, absolutely. Let's go back. I mean, basically, when these officers came to you, why did they want to reopen this? What. What was it that, that really, like, spurred them to do this one?
[04:54]
B
I do think the investigator in the case, who I did not know prior to starting this podcast, but his name is Stephen Montgomery, and, and I, I, I think that he had really begun to live with this case. And if there's a stereotype, you know, of this, you know, detective getting obsessed with a crime and wanting to solve it, he. That's him. I mean, and with this one, for whatever reason, he felt like that this, this case could be solved. And, and so, you know, he had, as you can imagine, 40 years worth of documents where, you know, they, they opened the case and closed it and Opened it and closed it. And so he went through all of it and, and condensed it down to something that, you know, he could work with. And, and so they approached me about the time that, that he was looking for media, he was looking for press. He wanted somebody to do a story on it.
[05:48]
A
Why did he want the media involved? I mean, was it just so ice cold at that point? They were like, the only way, only way this is going to work is if people start talking.
[05:58]
B
I think that on some level it was, I think somebody used the term. I don't think it was Stefan, but it was dead in the water in the sense that they had just kind of run up against a wall. And so what he talked about later, he and I talked about later was he was surprised not only with the information they got locally, but the fact that the podcast was able to reach people all over the country. And so there were people that had maybe been in the Covington area in 1982 that had moved off. And so they were able to listen to that story and where maybe, you know, before they didn't want to get involved for whatever reason, you know, this time they decided they would.
[06:41]
A
Were you surprised at how, I mean, from what you were saying? I, you know, from first episode into the second episode, as you're sort of introducing this, you know, young 16 year old mom victim, Roxanne Sharpe, you know, as you're introducing that, are you thinking, is anybody going to know who I'm talking about from 1982? Is that what's going through your mind?
[07:08]
B
It absolutely was. And I think I even made a comment to that point in either episode one or two, and, and we were quickly corrected. You know, there were some people that, both through social media and email and who let us know that, yes, they knew who Roxanne was or she was a friend and, you know, a lot of Roxanne's family is gone now, but she definitely left an imprint on plenty of people. And, and those people let us know, yes, there are people that care. Maybe there are some people that care that just feel like nothing's ever going to happen.
[07:40]
A
I would be so surprised if that happened to me. And all of a sudden everybody starts coming out of the woodwork on a, on an ice cold case.
[07:47]
B
There were a lot of unanswered questions about where people were, who they were with, what they had been doing. Roxanne was missing for a few days before, or at least kind of off the radar for a few days before she. And so there were questions about, you know, where where was she and who was she with? And so I think they were able, through this, some of these tips and. And some of the work that was done by police after some of these tips came in, they were able to answer some of these questions that until then, they had not been able to answer. And I think that was able to propel the investigation forward. And so, as we continue to tell the story, I do think, you know, that we were not subtle about asking for help. More than anything else, we are trying to get as many people involved in Roxanne's story as we can with the hope that at some point, we hit the right person who might know something that can help solve Roxanne's crime. So, please, keep working, Keep spreading the word, and thank you. You know, it's kind of a sledgehammer in terms of trying to get people to come forward. And I think that that sledgehammer eventually, you know, helped. Helped that to happen.
[09:02]
A
What happened to Roxanne when she was murdered? What happened to this young girl?
[09:06]
B
I'll tell you this. When those two police officers came in the very first day, and we were talking about the case, and I was asking what I would have access to and what I wouldn't. They. They agreed that we'd go out and recreate the crime scene with their data, and they'd show me where everything was found. And I was able to see old reports. I got to see stuff that the FBI wrote in 1982. And so really cool stuff. But they said, you will never see the actual crime scene photos of her body. They said, once you see that, you cannot unsee it. I did read about the crime, and the word I keep coming back to is medieval. What they did to her was absolutely awful. She died at the hands of three or four men, and four men are charged with this crime. Yeah, the psych was. It's near downtown Covington. It's near that neighborhood called the Ozone I was telling you about, but it's also near the Covington fairgrounds. And so her body was discovered in a wooded area well off the road. And as we put together the crime scene from way back then and used and marked off where each piece of evidence was found. And it was clear that she was grabbed on the road and pulled back into those woods. And they literally stripped her clothes off as she was going through the woods until they got her pretty much in the middle of that wooded area, and that's where she was discovered.
[10:47]
A
So you didn't see the crime scene photos, but I would assume that this detective who. Stefan Montgomery, who's. Who's held on to this case for all these years now, he had to see all that, didn't he?
[10:58]
B
Absolutely. And. And like I said, I've read the descriptions. I think that's enough.
[11:02]
A
Well, I just wonder if that's what just. Just leveled them, you know? You know, for him. I know a lot. You keep. Like, I've got a bunch of pictures of, of different victims and things on my wall too, because I don't want to forget what they look like, and I don't want to forget, you know, who they are as a person. I would imagine that that might have had quite an impact on. On someone who just couldn't quite crack the case. Tell me about Covington.
[11:28]
B
Covington right now is a whole lot different than what is presented in the story. So it is. It's a great little town, and I work in St. Tammany Parish every day. I love Saint Tammany. It formally was kind of a bedroom community for the city of New Orleans. It's connected by the causeway and everybody commuted back and forth. And that's certainly not the case anymore. It has its own identity and a lot of industry and does quite well. But. But back then it was a different place, much, much smaller and more rural. And for whatever reason, there was just this collection of individuals in a neighborhood called the ozone. That very strange that this group came together the way they did and, and, and who they kind of were and, and how they behaved. And so I would call that it was just unusual, an unlikely gathering of individuals. And, and they were, you know, they were tough and so. And their families were tough. And so I do think that. And we talk about this a good bit in the podcast, but I think fear early on played a big role and people maybe not wanting to get involved. And so I think the passage of time has helped with that and, and I think the podcast, by kind of just blaring it out the way it did, I think that helped a little bit with that as well. So. So I do think it's a. It's a wonderful place to live. Now. It was probably a pretty great place to live then, but you did have an element there, a group of folks that were pretty tough.
[13:06]
A
And Roxanne fell in with that group.
[13:09]
B
She did. She was very poor. Her family, you know, she just had a tough start to her life. Now, by all accounts, she was something not very tall, maybe five foot one, I think, and slim and an attractive girl. But she, she was a survivor. And so she hitchhiked everywhere she went. She was often in the company of older men, got pregnant, had a child at a young, young age.
[13:42]
A
How old was she? I mean, if she was 16 when she passed away and was murdered and she had an 18 month old.
[13:49]
B
Correct.
[13:50]
A
She was barely a teenager.
[13:51]
B
Correct. I would hate for anybody to judge my teenage years. And I was not in the same situation as Roxanne. So we don't know. You know, obviously we'll never know where Roxanne's life would have gone from that point. But, but the word I keep coming back to is, until that night, she was just a survivor. She found a way to, to kind of continue to push forward. We did talk to people who talked about her and, you know, there were guys who described her as tough, as quiet, you know, that she had a great laugh, but you didn't hear it, you know, too often, things like that.
[14:28]
A
So you've done, you've done some interviews with the family. Tell me what stuck, what stuck with you with that?
[14:37]
B
Just that this crime destroyed that family, you know, it, it really did. When you look at the impacts it had on the individuals in that family, it was just deadly, as deadly as it was to Roxanne. And so the ones that are left, you know, I really, really want justice for them and, and hope that they can find it.
[15:01]
A
What have they said to you about this?
[15:05]
B
You know, mostly the. I'm in touch with one of them who is kind of their spokesperson. And she was there that day at the press conference and just, you know, she was very emotional, extremely happy and, you know, wants to, wants to see this through. Like I just talked about.
[15:26]
A
Well, Charles, I mean, you literally had to, like, not only look for people and who would be involved, but there were two, not one, but two serial killers.
[15:37]
B
Right, right.
[15:39]
A
I mean, what's in the water down there? Like, what's going on?
[15:42]
B
The second one didn't belong to us. He came in from out of town. But the first one, you know, if you've seen the, the movie Dead Man Walking, he is the basis for the character, for Sean Penn's character in that. And, and I think in the last episode I talked to a gentleman that, that probably knew him as well as anybody. And we talked about, about Robert Willian and, you know, he was a serial killer and a horrible human being, but Donald Sharp's able to kind of humanize him a little bit in some ways in the way that they interacted with one another. And Donald Sharp, again, is a retired deputy with the Saint Tammany Sheriff's office. He was their chief deputy for years and years. To hear him tell it, you know, Robert Willie was showing signs at a very, very young age of being what he became. You know, as a 12 and 13 year old, people were already taking steps to kind of walk around him. And he was not a large man, but he, you know, just had a. Some kind of ferocious Persona.
[16:49]
A
I guess he was at the center of some of this. And, and then there was another serial killer who, who was also, you know, putting up a hand, you know, giving, giving information.
[17:03]
B
I think that they just really overshadowed what, what could have happened in Roxanne's case.
[17:10]
A
But y' all showed up and, and got some word out. One thing I kept on thinking about was, and I think you answered in your podcast, but I'd love for you to kind of tell us a little bit about why was DNA, I mean, at such a graphic crime scene. How did, how did her DNA, how did the suspect's DNA like, was it, was it salvageable?
[17:37]
B
It was explained to me that if this crime occurred today, people would be in jail almost immediately between. So, so yes, there was a lot of DNA on the left on the scene and a lot of bodily fluids. But. And that'll all. If there is a trial, I assume that a good bit of these details will come out of the trial. But, you know, at the time they were able to do some basic work, there was a good, you know, the, the FBI, the profiling had just started and so they did some profiling that if, if these four gentlemen are convicted that are charged, not gentlemen, if these four men that are convicted or charged, then that profiling is going to be really interesting to look back at because it, it looks like it was, it was pretty good. And then, and then just things happened over the years. A little bit of the evidence was apparently lost during Hurricane Katrina. So they had, they had set some of that evidence aside and, and we had the storm of the century and, and you know, among all the other things that were lost may have been some of the evidence in Roxanne's case. So. So, you know, we'll see where they land with the DNA at, you know, at time for trial. But, you know, I don't know the answer to what they have exactly, but
[19:07]
A
do you know what really solved the case? Like, were they able to give you some kind of smoking gun?
[19:13]
B
They did not. That's why I think the podcast isn't quite finished. I would like to finish telling Roxanne's story. And there's some, there's some aspects of it that I don't know either that I want to know. But. But I do not think this is a case of a smoking gun. I think this is a case of a lot of small pieces. And. And we'll see how these four defendants do as. As this thing moves forward. You know, you've got four individuals who are from at this. You know, two were in one place and two were living their lives. And so, you know, I don't know how they're going to react when, you know, when. When push comes to shove.
[19:50]
A
Who are the suspects, though, or individuals
[19:54]
B
that were known to Roxanne? Perry Taylor, Daryl Spell, Carlos Cooper and Billy Williams Jr. Are their names. Perry Taylor was involved in a crime with. With Robert Willie early on. Pretty heinous crime where.
[20:13]
A
That's our serial killer, right?
[20:15]
B
Yeah. Robert Willie was the serial killer. And Robert Willie and Perry took a guy named Dennis Himbeat. They met him in a bar and in Covington, and he was. Dennis had come from out of town and was selling dope. And so they convinced him to leave with them and they were going to go sit on the riverbank and smoke some dope and they were gonna. In reality, they wanted to rob him. And so Robert Willie and Dennis Envy were fighting and Robert Willie was losing. And Perry Taylor, mile accounts, came and sat on Dennis Hemby's head in about a foot of water and drowned him. They hid the body. That body was not found for about five years. So there. And that's another weird thing about this, is that as Roxanne's story was being originally told, there were things that were happening that were unknown to the public that were just kind of popping up, you know, the Dennis Hemby's body showing up years later. And so, you know, just. It was a lot. It's hard to, you know, you need a little bit of a map to track it all because there was a lot going on.
[21:20]
A
But these four suspects, they were. They were. Were they in the ozone that you're talking about? Were they in that area? So they. When you were working on the podcast, did you have your. Did you have your sights on them?
[21:39]
B
I. There were certainly times where I heard rumors that I was unwilling to put into the podcast. So I do a lot of speculating in the podcast and I try to make it clear when I am doing that, because I think a few times I was sort of right. And there were quite a few times I was wrong. And there's still more wrong to be determined. We'll see when this thing fleshes out. But. But yes, those were names that were heard. Some of these names are in the podcast as being involved in other situations. And. And. But never at any time did I feel like I knew enough to. To put one of these names forward as Roxanne's killer prior to that press conference that day.
[22:25]
A
But did you think that they were.
[22:28]
B
I. I thought that the crime was a local crime. I certainly didn't think that Henry Lucas did it.
[22:36]
A
He's the other serial killer.
[22:37]
B
I. I felt like. I felt like it was a crime where Roxanne said no to the wrong guy.
[22:44]
A
And.
[22:45]
B
And that's what I felt like.
[22:47]
A
I mean, as far as when you got into that podcast, when did the tide start turning?
[22:53]
B
I can't tell you the exact episodes off the top of my head, but there were a couple of times when we were doing interviews where I felt like he was a little more sassy than he had been at the start of this thing. And so I used that in ways that I thought really were cool and made it sound good. But there was no question at the end of episode seven, he said something in one of our interviews, and I was like, we've come a long way from episode one, you know, and again, I knew things were happening, but I didn't know exactly what. And so, just based on the way he was acting, he's a pretty cautious guy. He's, I think, methodical to the extreme. And so to hear him, you know, kind of mouth off a little bit, I was like, all right, you know, we're definitely moving forward faster than I thought we were. Do you think the people who are responsible for Roxanne's death have heard this podcast? I'm pretty positive they have. All right, if that's correct, then what do you say to them? See you soon.
[24:04]
A
That's so exciting. Yeah, I mean, exciting in terms of being able to get to some level of justice, you know, I do think that the idea that this mystery, this case could actually come to some kind of conclusion is incredible. When you got the word Charles, there's a moment in your podcast that sticks out that you're. You just decided to just sort of start recording. You're in the car, you can. You're in the dark, trying to figure out, like, what. What is about to occur.
[24:34]
B
Here we are a year and a half down the road from the start of the podcast. I sit here and wonder, what's next? Will anything ever happen? And then something did.
[24:53]
A
What was going through your mind when the. The light bulb kind of went off? That, that, that, that there, that there was something that, that was going to finally happen here. What did that feel like?
[25:03]
B
I, I didn't think we were doing all that because there weren't going to be arrests. So I was pretty confident that we were arresting some people, you know, that I'd even heard some names bounced around. But, you know, it was emotional thinking about that in that car that morning. And so I, you know, I, I did it again after, after the press conference. I kind of wanted to close that window, that circle, but, but I was surprised at the, the emotion that I felt considering I never met Roxanne. You know, this is a 40 plus year old case, but, you know, it, it just felt, it felt good to know that people cared and that they'd come forward and that we were hopefully going to see this through.
[25:48]
A
Did they attribute it to the podcast they gave us?
[25:52]
B
Yes, they gave us plenty of credit. And then I was there at the pot, at the, they let me be in the press conference. So it was me and the head of Louisiana State Police and the DA And I was, I felt totally inadequate and out of place, but really, really cool. And, and, and you know, even answered a few questions about what we did with the podcast. But again, looking at, we got a lot of press and it was great, but there were some magazine headlines where I was like, oh please, that's a little too much. You know, there were other folks that were involved in this. The podcast was certainly a contributor to this success. But you know, again, you had an investigator that worked awfully hard for a long, long time to bring this thing to light.
[26:39]
A
So you don't know who actually spilled the beans about who these four suspects were.
[26:45]
B
I do not.
[26:47]
A
Talk to me about what happens next in this case. Like, as you said, like this, this podcast isn't over until it's over. Like what happens.
[26:55]
B
These four gentlemen have been charged. These four men have been charged
[27:01]
A
and
[27:02]
B
they are now waiting for indictment. So the, the indictment, the DA said in the press conference would happen within a few weeks, so that indictment should come down. I plan on doing another episode at the time of that indictment. And then, and then I'll, I'll be in a lull for a while. I'm, I'm not done. But, but we'll either wait and see if somebody pleads out or if, if there's a trial. And if there's a trial, they're going to, they're going to push to try to get this trial done as quickly as possible because you have witnesses and individuals that are older, on the older side with a 40, you know, 3 year old, 42 year old cold case. So, so I want to be there at the trial. I want to tell the end of Roxanne's story and, and I want to stay connected to her family. They've been a part of this. And so I want to, I kind of, I hope to end with her family and talk about in a perfect world, we'll talk about justice for Roxanne and what that means for that family.
[28:06]
A
What do you think Roxanne would have said to see this come to, to come full circle?
[28:13]
B
I don't know, but I probably would have been colorful and it would have been good. She, you know, I, I don't know. It took four of them. I'll say that. According to the who's been charged. Like I said, she was tough and, and I just think that I'd like to have seen what she said. How about that?
[28:34]
A
Yeah, I bet it was colorful. I bet she's like, I'll be damned. You got them?
[28:39]
B
Yeah.
[28:40]
A
Go throw them in a hole. Right after doing this case, are you doing more cold cases?
[28:47]
B
Absolutely. And, and we're gonna still. Still trying to figure out exactly which one. There are some great untold stories. Right. They're close to home. So I think that's where we're going to stay. I've been approached by a few people about, you know, how that happens, you know, and honestly, I've been approached by people around the country and I, I just, the way I'm working right now, I feel like use the local connection, stay where I am and tell the stories close to home. So hadn't, hadn't landed exactly on which one, but absolutely, I'm going to do this again.
[29:21]
A
You know what I love about that, Charles, is that because from my own experience, I spent years working on a big, big case down just south of me in Walterboro and the Alec Murdoch case. And what I loved about doing what you're talking about that I think is very successful. You're in your territory. So as you go into areas, it's just that familiarity really, really pays off. So I can't wait to see what you do next. Honestly, I think that also I think that people will be eager to talk to you.
[29:54]
B
Well, I want to thank you so much for this opportunity to promote the pod.
[29:57]
A
Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, well, we can't wait to have you back when we get this trial started.
[30:02]
B
Absolutely.
[30:03]
A
This case is not over yet. A grand jury has indicted the four suspects on charges of aggravated rape and second degree murder. Next, the formal arraignment. Will they plead before the trial? Or maybe they turn state's evidence. We're just going to have to wait and see how it plays out. Drop a comment below. Tell me what you think about solving a case with a podcast like subscribe and turn on your notifications here at Crimly Obsessed and we'll keep you updated as this story develops.