Part 4: Healing & Diplomacy | Starter Kit - D&D Edition

Summary

Critical Role & Sagas of Sundry

Starter Kit - D&D Edition, Part 4: Healing & Diplomacy

Host: Jason Charles Miller / Podcast by geekandsundry
Date: September 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Starter Kit - D&D Edition, Dungeon Master Jason Charles Miller leads the players (Thumper and Moon) through the fundamentals of healing, exhaustion, rests, and party planning in a D&D adventure. The episode is a practical guide woven into a live-play session, highlighting the mechanics of rest and recovery, party diplomacy, navigation, and player interaction with NPCs. The group recovers from a perilous battle, debates next moves, and navigates a dense dungeon, where they're joined by a new, possibly untrustworthy orc companion, Lalacra. The action culminates with a tense combat inside the legendary library, putting all their newfound healing and teamwork skills to the test.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Healing and Recovery After Battle

• Situation Recap: The party begins with Haldor (Thumper) unconscious after defeating goblins and a tough "gray tall dude."

• Mechanics Clarification:

  • Unconsciousness: "Being unconscious, you can't use [a healing potion]." (Jason Charles Miller, 01:47)
  • Assisting Allies: Other players can administer potions to an unconscious friend.
  • Spell Slots & Healing: Moon uses a spell slot for cure wounds, reviving Thumper and restoring hit points.
  • Second Wind Explained: Only usable in combat, representing a surge of adrenaline.

• Rest Types Explained:

  • Short Rest: 1 hour; roll hit dice to regain HP, wizards recover half spell slots, clerics do not recover magic.
  • Long Rest: 8 hours; full HP and full spell slot recovery.
  • Strategic Considerations:
    • Risks of resting in unsafe locations: "If you did it in the middle of a hallway, then probably some creature would kill you..." (03:12)
    • "Is that a risk that you take?" (Jason Charles Miller, 04:24)

2. Rest, Resource Management, and Planning

• Player Decision-Making:
  • Resting is a party decision, involving who stands watch and where to rest safely.
  • Moon volunteers to keep watch as the others rest.
• Humorous Note: The party debates the merits of returning to "the mushroom room" to rest.
  • "Of course. He wants to go back to mushrooms." (Moon, 05:05)
• Maximizing Recovery: Thumper and Moon coordinate rolling for healing and spell slot recovery.

3. Dungeon Exploration & Navigation

• Exploring New Rooms:
  • Party chooses routes at random for exploration.
  • Jokes about dungeon design: "They should invest in like an open layout. I feel like that's the new thing..." (Moon, 07:23)
• Atmosphere Building: Descriptions from the DM about the uniform, carved black rock dungeon.

4. Diplomacy & Meeting Lalacra

• Encounter: The party meets Lalacra, a formidable female orc with two goblin followers.

• Dramatic Turn:

  • Lalacra kills the goblins with her: "I'm sick of these people." [Stabs the goblins.] (Jason Charles Miller, 09:18)
  • She offers to join the party, revealing her dissatisfaction with the current dungeon leadership.

• Dialogue and Wit:

  • Thumper jokes: "Someday I'm gonna marry that girl. I think she's the perfect wife for my little charisma on her." (08:31)
  • Moon: "She does want to be our friend." (09:34)
  • Lalacra: "The people running this place are idiots and ridiculous. I'm sick of this place. You're clearly the alphas of this place. I do want to join with you." (09:55)

• Trust Issues (Player Meta): Players openly discuss whether trusting Lalacra is wise, foreshadowing potential betrayal.

  • "We never asked if we could really trust this person...Maybe she has a much better plan for trapping, killing, and eating people." (Thumper, 12:04)

5. The Library of Rogan & Zelliger

• Reaching the Library: With Lalacra's guidance, the party navigates to the sought-after library.

• DM's Room Description:

  • "The floor of the room is covered with dust, but beneath is a beautiful and shiny surface of polished red granite... blocks of white granite...form the letters R and Z with an ampersand in between." (Jason Charles Miller, 13:04)
  • Wall sconces with beetles emitting an eerie reddish glow.

• Player Banter:

  • Moon lights up Thumper's beer yet again: "I cast light on his beer again." (14:24)
  • Humorous reactions to the DM's atmospheric details.
  • Perception checks yield "a lot of cool books, things of that nature." (Jason Charles Miller, 14:45)

6. Diplomacy Turns to Action

• Lalacra’s Motive:

  • She seeks allies to take out the hobgoblin chieftain.
  • "If you will join with me to take out this hobgoblin chieftain, I'll share with you whatever riches we find." (Jason Charles Miller, 15:06)

• Sudden Danger:

  • The party is interrupted by pounding at the door – two more gray creatures (“hobgoblins”) bust in, along with goblins.
  • Announced dramatically: "Let's roll for initiative." (Jason Charles Miller, 18:59)

7. Combat in the Library – Mechanics and Teamwork

• Initiative and Turn Order: Players practice D&D initiative and action mechanics.

• Attack Choices and Combo Moves:

  • Players use ranged and magic attacks before moving to melee.
  • Magic Missile used for targeted attacks; sneak attack mechanics explained and executed adeptly by Moon.
  • Moon successfully uses a combination of dagger and sneak attack to kill a hobgoblin with flair.

• Notable Combat Highlights:

  • Moon’s sneak attack & banter:
    • "[Roll] You're going down, hobgoblin." (Moon, 26:54)
    • "[After the kill] You just got him. That was it." (Jason Charles Miller, 26:57)
  • Deborah’s cinematic move: "I would like to request that I do like a cool move where I roll over your back." (Moon, 27:40)
  • Lalacra initially hangs back, observing and not helping -- "She wants you guys to prove your worth." (Jason Charles Miller, 28:52)
  • Warding Flare used by Moon to protect against attack, forcing DM to roll with disadvantage: "So he's gonna roll an attack at a disadvantage. So I'm gonna take the lower number and...yeah, he totally missed." (Jason Charles Miller, 31:03)

• Healing in Combat:

  • Deborah tends to Thumper with a healing potion mid-fight: "I'm gonna just walk up and just, like, kind of mop off your brow, make you drink..." (Moon, 36:03)

• Battle Ends with Flair:

  • Moon lands the final blow:
    • "We believe in you." (Thumper, 37:44)
    • "20." [critical hit, fireball] (Moon, 37:46)
    • "It's literally like a small little nuclear explosion...He exploded into a million pieces." (Jason Charles Miller, 38:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing & Rest:

  • "You can only use second wind in combat." (Jason Charles Miller, 02:25)
  • "A short rest is an hour. A full rest is eight hours. You get all your hit points back. You get all your spells back. You get everything back." (Jason Charles Miller, 03:55)

• On Risky Resting:

  • "If you did it in the middle of a hallway, then probably some creature would kill you..." (Jason Charles Miller, 04:12)

• Introducing Lalacra:

  • "I'm ready to make a change." (Jason Charles Miller, 09:30 as Lalacra)
  • "The people running this place are idiots and ridiculous. I'm sick of this place. You're clearly the alphas of this place." (09:55)

• Player Trust Issues:

  • "Maybe she has a much better plan for trapping, killing, and eating people." (Thumper, 12:04)
  • "She wants you guys to prove your worth." (Jason Charles Miller, 28:52)

• Combat Banter:

  • "I would like to request that I do a cool move where we like I roll over your back." (Moon, 27:40)
  • "I'm never using the fireball ever again." (Moon, 30:10)
  • "You just got him. That was it...hobnobbing with the afterlife." (Jason Charles Miller, 26:57)

• Final Blow:

  • "We believe in you." (Thumper, 37:44)
  • "20." (Moon, 37:46)
  • "It's literally like a small little nuclear explosion. You just hit that goblin. He exploded into a million pieces..." (Jason Charles Miller, 38:01)

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Important Timestamps

• [01:05] — Introduction to healing, exhaustion, and party planning
• [02:25] — Explanation of second wind (combat healing feature)
• [03:24] — Types of rest and their benefits
• [07:36] — Encountering two goblins and Lalacra, the orc emissary
• [09:18] — Lalacra turns on her goblin companions
• [13:04] — Arrival and detailed description of the library
• [15:06] — Lalacra proposes alliance against the hobgoblin chieftain
• [18:59] — Hostile forces break into the library, combat begins
• [26:54] — Sneak attack mechanic and a successful backstab
• [27:40] — Deborah’s cinematic roll-and-strike
• [31:03] — Use of Warding Flare (combat reaction mechanic)
• [36:03] — In-combat healing with a potion
• [38:01] — Final “nuclear” fireball and end of combat

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Conclusion

This episode is a treasure trove for both new and veteran players, blending D&D rules explanations with vibrant roleplay and humor. The party learns the essential mechanics of healing and resting, debates trust and diplomacy with a new orcish ally, and navigates both the dangers and absurdities of dungeon life. Combat showcases a dynamic mix of magic, tactics, and teamwork, punctuated by memorable banter and a fiery climax. As always, Jason Charles Miller’s guidance as DM keeps the momentum, teaching moments, and laughs rolling in equal measure.

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For Listeners New and Old

If you missed the episode, this summary captures its spirit, character dynamics, teaching moments, and key in-game action. Whether you’re learning the ropes or just here for the drama and jokes, "Healing & Diplomacy" lives up to its name with both insightful game mechanics and classic party shenanigans.

Transcript

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[Thumper]

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[Moon]

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[Jason Charles Miller]

Welcome back to your starter kit. I'm your dungeon master, Jason Charles Miller. In this episode, our players are going to learn about healing, exhaustion, resting, and planning. But don't worry, this episode isn't going to be 45 minutes of them sleeping in a dark room. It's gonna take a few more challenges to get them to where they can even think about slowing down. Okay, so you just defeated the two goblins and the mystery gray tall dude.

[Thumper]

I'm unconscious.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Haldor's unconscious.

[Moon]

Yeah.

[Thumper]

I have a healing potion I would like to use.

[Moon]

I have a bunch.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Being unconscious, you can't use it.

[Thumper]

That's right.

[Moon]

You don't have a lot of healing potency at this moment.

[Thumper]

Yes.

[Moon]

But as you your soccer mom, I would love to come over and I have multiple healing potions. Just give you one of those.

[Thumper]

Yep.

[Moon]

Is that a thing I could do while he's. While he's.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I'll allow it. You can pour it into his mouth.

[Moon]

Okay, great. And that's. It says right here D8 plus two. So I'm gonna roll my D8 better than.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Moon]

Okay, so that's just three, but that'll get you conscious again to six.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Can you add one to it or.

[Thumper]

It was a one.

[Moon]

It was a one plus two.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Oh, okay, got it.

[Moon]

I could burn my other.

[Thumper]

I have healing potions, but I also have my second wind. Could I possibly use that?

[Jason Charles Miller]

You can only use second wind in combat.

[Thumper]

Okay, so during moves in combat.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Right. That's like a, you know, spur of the moment. The adrenaline of combat gives you your.

[Thumper]

Understood. Okay.

[Jason Charles Miller]

It might be a good time to think about finding a place to rest. Whether it's a short rest or a long rest.

[Thumper]

Yeah, you do.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You still need to rest.

[Moon]

I can transfer like four hours. I'll keep watch.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You need to meditate.

[Moon]

Yeah, well, in that case, if we're gonna rest, then I will use my second spell slot of the day to do cure wounds on you.

[Thumper]

Oh, thank you. Great.

[Moon]

Which will give you another D. Eight.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Plus one, I believe. Right.

[Moon]

Plus my wisdom.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Plus your wisdom. That's right.

[Moon]

Which is five.

[Thumper]

Okay.

[Moon]

But I guess we'll heal points anyway. I just wanted to cast another spell.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Hey, no problem.

[Thumper]

That brings me to maximum to 10. It brings me over that. But I'm at max again. I'm 10.

[Moon]

You sure don't have a lot of hit points. So we don't have to speak. Right.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Well, she' out of spells now though. She's out of spells.

[Thumper]

And we gotta rest to regain some of our other powers. And your magic powers as well.

[Jason Charles Miller]

There's two types of rest. There's short rest and long rest. Short rest is one hour. You can heal yourself by rolling your hit die. So whatever you roll to get your first hit points, you can roll that and you'll get that many hit points back. A wizard will get at least half of will get half of their spells, right? Not at least, but you'll get half your spells back. The cleric will not. You need to rest fully. So a short rest is an hour. A full rest is eight hours. Eight hours. You get all your hit points back. You get all your spells back. You get everything back.

[Moon]

So does that mean as everyone's rolling, you don't roll cause you're resting or.

[Jason Charles Miller]

What does that mean everyone's gonna rest together?

[Thumper]

I mean, we don't obviously sit here for eight hours and wait.

[Jason Charles Miller]

But no, your character's.

[Thumper]

Why wouldn't you always just say let's do a full rest?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Well, because if you did it in the middle of a hallway, then probably some creature would kill you in the.

[Thumper]

Middle of the night. Someone will come upon you and be like, oh, by the way, while you were sleeping, you got surprise attacks. And that's a risk that you take with. Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Is that a risk that you take?

[Moon]

I see.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I would roll for wandering monsters and things of that.

[Thumper]

Yeah, we're in a hallway. So yeah.

[Moon]

If I get half my spells back and only use one spell, do I get half of that spell?

[Jason Charles Miller]

With a short rest, you would still get that other spell back slot back because you've only spent one.

[Moon]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Charles Miller]

But remember, our cleric, your healer wouldn't get any of her spells back.

[Thumper]

Right?

[Moon]

I still think as. As your soccer mom, we should all rest. We can roll our hit die like Thumper needs some hit points back.

[Thumper]

Yep.

[Moon]

Let's just zoom through.

[Thumper]

We could move back into this room and rest there, lower our chances.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, I mean, clearly no one went in there. Yeah, if there was a.

[Thumper]

What do we got?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Mushrooms.

[Moon]

Of course. He wants to go back to mushrooms.

[Thumper]

Yeah, Right. I'll be over here chewing this stuff. Okay, perfect. Wake up with a whole new album.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Short rest or a long rest?

[Moon]

Sure, sure.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so whoever's injured, roll your hit die to see what you gain back.

[Thumper]

Technically, I'm not now, because I'm back here.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Good.

[Thumper]

So hit die. You're injured slightly, aren't you?

[Moon]

I. No, no.

[Thumper]

You're back secured. Me.

[Moon]

That's why we need a rest. Everyone's fine. Well, he'll heal, and you'll get your magic whistle. Oh, right.

[Thumper]

I don't see a 10 on here.

[Moon]

The 0 is 10.

[Jason Charles Miller]

The 0 is a 10.

[Thumper]

Yeah. 0 is a 10. Right?

[Moon]

Nice.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so are you back to full?

[Thumper]

No, I'm back to 12. Out of 14.

[Moon]

Pretty good.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Not too bad, not too bad.

[Thumper]

Okay, cool.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You get your spell slot back.

[Moon]

Magic missile.

[Thumper]

That's right. And now.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Or whatever one you want.

[Moon]

It worked. Amazing.

[Thumper]

Directions backing out of this room back over to this part of the building. We obviously have a lot of map to explore. Explore.

[Moon]

Yeah.

[Thumper]

So you want to come back down this hall and, like, enter this stuff or go maybe down that way? Yes.

[Moon]

Eeny, meeny, miny, mo.

[Thumper]

Yeah, pick. Pick something like. Yeah, I want to go to here. And then we'll enter here. We're gonna go. Is that right?

[Jason Charles Miller]

You can just use the one. Maybe just use the dwarf one just to.

[Thumper]

For ease over here to this guy. Okay. Now you guys can clear the pieces as we go, see what's what. Dang it.

[Moon]

A hallway.

[Thumper]

Dad Gummet. All right. Down that way.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. Now you can either go.

[Thumper]

How about this way? Yep.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Thumper]

Lot of doors. Long hallway. And a long hallway. Anything special about the hallway that we should know?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Everything looks the same. It's. It's. You know, it's. It's made out of the. It's made out. Made out of the same material. The dark black rock that's been carved.

[Thumper]

You wanna come down to this door?

[Moon]

Sure. Sure.

[Thumper]

Yeah. Okay. Why not? Let's open that door. Let's see what's in there. Should we knock first to examine it? Yeah. I love his little dunk. Oh, it doesn't. Aha. Another 10ft or 20ft. Okay. See that? Huh? That's a hallway.

[Moon]

Okay. They should invest in like an open layout. I feel like that's like the new thing instead of all these stylish open source.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I know.

[Thumper]

Yeah, yeah. Very ikea.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, as you. As you round that turn, you see something new. You see two goblins coming down the hall with another creature behind them. That's not like the gray one from before.

[Thumper]

All right.

[Moon]

This time it's not tall goblin.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You see a barbaric looking female humanoid bearing ragged equipment and armor in sullen colors. It has coarse body hair and a stooped posture like some primitive man, but with grayish green skin tone and bestial facial features beneath a black hood.

[Moon]

It's a female.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You said. It is a female. Burning red eyes peer below a low sloping brow just above a flattened nose and prominent tusk like teeth.

[Thumper]

Someday I'm gonna marry that girl. I think she's the perfect wife for my little charisma on her. Maybe.

[Moon]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Thumper]

Just a little game Wave hello. Say hi.

[Moon]

It's terrible. She's a woman.

[Thumper]

Hi. We just told your mate on the other side of the building more than maybe she hated him. I'm saying maybe they're cool.

[Moon]

She's much larger.

[Jason Charles Miller]

My mate. My mate is not here.

[Moon]

Oh, I think she's tougher than him. Yeah.

[Thumper]

All right.

[Moon]

Seems like a problem. And a new friend.

[Jason Charles Miller]

What do you guys do?

[Thumper]

Where are you from?

[Moon]

She wants to join our group. Our crew? Yeah. No.

[Thumper]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Have you been the ones clearing this dungeon?

[Thumper]

Yes, we have. Yes. You want to join us? Goblins stealing everything we're looking for.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I'm sick of these people. And she. She has a dagger in each hand. And right after she says, I'm sick of these people, she stabs both of the goblins that are with her.

[Thumper]

Oh, Brad. Nice.

[Moon]

That's my kind of girl.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I'm ready to make a change.

[Thumper]

Nice. Oh, we gotta.

[Moon]

She does want to be our friend.

[Thumper]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Moon]

Join us. Raptor treasure will split it with you.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I know all about this place.

[Thumper]

What's her name?

[Jason Charles Miller]

My name is Lalacra. I'm an orcus emissary here from another. From the Caves of Chaos.

[Thumper]

Oh, sounds tough neighborhood.

[Jason Charles Miller]

The people running this place are idiots and ridiculous. I'm sick of this place. You're clearly the alphas of this place. I do want to join with you.

[Thumper]

All right, Scorg.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I would say there's an evil possessing this place, but that's giving them too much credit. There's basically a group of idiots trying to run this place. And I'm sick of them.

[Thumper]

So she's the goblin version or like the orc version of like a Yelp review? She's just a bad Yelp.

[Jason Charles Miller]

One star.

[Thumper]

I give it a stupid dump. There's garbage piles with centipedes in them. It gives me the creeps. Is our map real?

[Moon]

That's what I want to know.

[Thumper]

Your map.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Let me see your map.

[Moon]

Got the map? Yeah.

[Thumper]

Show it to. Yeah, show it to it.

[Jason Charles Miller]

This map is real. But I mean, what do you mean is it real? I mean it got you here, right?

[Moon]

Yeah. Is this the resting place and the keep of Rogan and Zelliger?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Oh, yes, it is. But they haven't been here for decades.

[Thumper]

That's fine. Is there gold here? Is there treasure here? Where can we find treasure? Their library.

[Jason Charles Miller]

There's a library?

[Thumper]

That's what we want? Absolutely. A library. We want the library. Yeah.

[Moon]

Can you help us find it?

[Jason Charles Miller]

I can take you to the Library.

[Thumper]

Oh yes. Take us to the library. I'm Thumper.

[Moon]

This is Moon.

[Thumper]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Moon]

Could I.

[Thumper]

This is dip. Would you like an Agad stone? And you can use our path to get out if you're tired of living here.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I'm not living here. I'm just visiting you.

[Thumper]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I was here to talk to the so called leaders of this new place. I just can't take it anymore.

[Thumper]

Well, let's go to the library. Yeah, show us the library and then we'll all.

[Moon]

So why are we going to the Library?

[Thumper]

Cause that's what we're seeking.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You want to go to the library.

[Thumper]

Of Rogan and delegates.

[Moon]

We will learn at the library.

[Thumper]

That's right.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So the Lockery, the orc emissary, is going to lead you to the library. So if you don't mind moving that, if you can. Pull this guy up right here. Pull that guy up in charge.

[Thumper]

There you go. There's a great white beast under there that's shaped like an orb. Oh, it just sticks out of there.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You're mainly going through through hallways at this point to get there. We're gonna go this way here.

[Thumper]

I love how we never asked if we could really trust this person. Maybe she thinks the people who are running this place are idiots. Because she has a much better plan for trapping, killing and eating people. She probably said the same thing to the goddess.

[Moon]

She thinks about doing some rolls and I was like, let's just figure it out. We will eventually find out if she wants to kill us when she can, then we have to battle her.

[Thumper]

There it goes.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Always double Cross.

[Moon]

We'll battle. We'll win.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Never know. Yeah, exactly. Okay.

[Thumper]

And we're at the gates of the library. The doors of the library.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Those are the doors to the library.

[Thumper]

It just closed. My car is in house.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Ah, my card.

[Thumper]

Look online, see what time they open.

[Moon]

Friggin. Not open on Mondays, not open on a Monday.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, go ahead and pull that last one, if you don't mind.

[Thumper]

Oh, look at that. Pardon my ring.

[Moon]

No worries.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So we're gonna walk on it?

[Thumper]

Yeah, Barge right in.

[Jason Charles Miller]

The library is where I was actually staying. So I'm familiar, ultimately familiar with the library. So the floor of the room is covered with dust, but beneath is a beautiful and shiny surface of polished red granite. The stone is inlaid in large blocks and extends uniformly within a foot of each of the walls in the very center of the room. Within the floor surface are blocks of white granite within red stone. And these form the letters R and Z with an ampersand in between. Wall sconces designed to hold torches for illumination are mounted on the walls all around the room. They're not lit. There are three large oaken tables within the room, one in each of the west, north and east wings of the room. There are several wooden chairs scattered about in two corners of the room are plush divans, each covered with a rich fleecy upholstering that makes them very comfortable for reclining. These, however, are rather dusty and dingy due to their age and lack of use. Hanging from the sconces inset into the north wall are small metal cages, each containing a large beetle. These unusual insects give off an eerie glowing light from their bodies. Enough to illuminate this portion of the room with a forbidding reddish glow.

[Thumper]

Nice. So we can see fairly well. I've got darkness.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You can see.

[Thumper]

Yeah, everybody can see fairly well because.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Or you could cast light in there too if you wanted.

[Moon]

Where's your beer? I cast light on his beer again.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Nice.

[Moon]

Which he's still carrying this whole time.

[Thumper]

Right? Perception.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, sure.

[Thumper]

12 plus 1 13. Great.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I mean there's a lot of. A lot of cool books, things of that nature.

[Thumper]

Good enough.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So Lalocra says close the door. Close the door.

[Moon]

Okay, I close the door.

[Thumper]

Nice job, Prince Charming.

[Moon]

He is going to kill us.

[Thumper]

She's gonna try.

[Moon]

I don't think so.

[Jason Charles Miller]

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[Thumper]

I'm down.

[Moon]

I'm down.

[Thumper]

Sure she hasn't done us wrong so far. She said library. Took us to the library.

[Jason Charles Miller]

All of a sudden you hear on the door.

[Moon]

Hello.

[Jason Charles Miller]

The lock. Rif, it's time to negotiate. So she doesn't say anything and then all of a sudden the doors burst open and it's two more of those gray creatures.

[Thumper]

Ah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

What is this? What is this foul treachery? Let's roll for initiative.

[Moon]

Yes.

[Thumper]

18.

[Moon]

16.

[Thumper]

Oh, sorry. Plus two. So 20.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so 20. 16. 15.

[Moon]

15 as well.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, great.

[Moon]

And my modifier is negative one. So I'd probably go after her.

[Thumper]

Six. They don't attack first.

[Jason Charles Miller]

No, they barged in on you and you guys are ready to go.

[Thumper]

Yeah. We were expecting hobgoblins. I would have been from that conversation. Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So.

[Thumper]

Is she a hobgoblin?

[Jason Charles Miller]

She's an orc.

[Thumper]

Orc?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Thumper]

She's tough.

[Moon]

She's a great maker.

[Thumper]

Tough chick.

[Jason Charles Miller]

All right, so this is where it all. I have her in your party now. So I rolled initiative for her and she rolled a bad number, so she's last. Okay, but so here we go. Haldor, you're first.

[Thumper]

Cool.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So remember, those are five feet in. Those are five foot squares.

[Thumper]

Now I only wrote a six. I only wrote.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Oh, you rolled a six. Sorry.

[Moon]

Okay, can we get a description of these guys?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yes.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So the. Now that you know. Now that she told you the story about the hobgoblins.

[Moon]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You know that those are clearly hobgoblins. The gray. The gray skinned guy. So there's two hobgoblins in the front and two goblins in the rear.

[Thumper]

Regular goblins. Yeah, little backup dudes. Okay, Right. Hob means front in goblin ease.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Goblin sans hob.

[Thumper]

Okay, Right. Okay, so here we go. I'm going to. I'm not that close. I'm, you know, one section away. So you'll need.

[Jason Charles Miller]

If you want to do hand to.

[Thumper]

Hand, I have to move forward. I'll let them come forward. So I'm going to shoot with my short bow to start with and see how that works out. Oh, and I missed. It's a three.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Thumper]

Goes to two.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Moon.

[Moon]

I really liked the magic missile. Yeah, I get it.

[Thumper]

Magic missile is good.

[Jason Charles Miller]

It's powerful, it's good.

[Moon]

I'm just gonna go for it.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. On one of the big guys in.

[Moon]

The front, isn't it? Doesn't it hit like three, like several.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, yeah. You could send them wherever you wanted them to go.

[Moon]

You could send in that general direction.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Well, you have to pick the target. So you could send one to one, one to another one and one in the back if you wanted.

[Thumper]

Or two on one.

[Moon]

Yeah, let's. Let's make all three of them math.

[Thumper]

Great.

[Moon]

Let's do it.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so you're going to put.

[Moon]

I'm going to. I'm going to get like one on.

[Thumper]

One, one on one and one on one.

[Moon]

Yeah. The two in the front and the one in the back.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. So let's roll. Oh, no, you don't have to roll the hit. It's. Roll the roll for damage.

[Moon]

Already did that.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You're going to roll this little guy for three times.

[Moon]

Triangle.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Moon]

Three.

[Thumper]

Three.

[Jason Charles Miller]

One. Okay.

[Moon]

Four.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Four. You're gonna add one to each. So you've got. So one does two points of damage. One does. What did you order? One, Three.

[Moon]

One and four.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Three. One. So one does two. One does four and one does five.

[Moon]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, great. So I've marked that all. No one's dead, but everyone's like, what just happened?

[Moon]

I like the magic. Disabled for a moment.

[Jason Charles Miller]

It's very good. They're not disabled, but they've been. They've definitely been.

[Thumper]

It stings. It definitely chafes like.

[Moon]

So if I get in there hard right away I can.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, you could. You could totally get in there. Go. Go hard.

[Moon]

Go hard, girl.

[Thumper]

Okay.

[Moon]

Okay. So what should I choose?

[Thumper]

Where are you?

[Moon]

My magical dagger. So good. Can I go behind and be stealthy or I forget.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Well, right now. So actually no one is engaged in hand to hand combat yet.

[Thumper]

Okay. I'm still slightly unclear as to how one moves up a square based on your speed. What is it again?

[Jason Charles Miller]

It's five. It's one. So it's. Every square is five feet.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So if your speed's what, 25. 25. So you can move five squares per turn.

[Thumper]

Okay. And then still do the tall and all the other stuff.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah. So you get one move action and one standard action.

[Moon]

Okay. So would you suggest I move up? Because I can move 25ft too, right up to the front and get in with my dagger.

[Jason Charles Miller]

There's another thing you could also do that I wanted to mention is you could actually wait. If you decided that you wanted to say, wait for Thump R to engage, you could then engage after that, and then you would be able to use your sneak attack more effectively. So you could actually choose to wait. Okay, great. That's something we haven't done yet before. So you can actually drop your initiative to thump bar. Also, it's good because you're going to see where the goblins and hobgoblins are going to move, right? And then you can choose accordingly.

[Moon]

Is everyone allowed to wait or just me? Because I have a second.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Anyone's allowed to wait if they're.

[Thumper]

If it's part of your strategy. Okay. Then that becomes your place in line for the rest of the fight.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Just for that fight. Yeah.

[Thumper]

Okay.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Thumper]

So.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so now the hobgoblins are going in.

[Moon]

Right? Hobgoblins. See what you've got.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

All right, so this guy moves forward here. This guy moves forward here. The goblins come in here and here. So they actually form.

[Moon]

They form a line.

[Thumper]

That's easy, though. Tricky.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, that's their limited intelligence combat moves. Okay, so basically what we have here is we've got one hobgoblin and goblin on Thumper and another hobgoblin and. And goblin on Haldor. They clearly see you guys are the most well armored guys of the group. You're right there. So I'm gonna roll for that. So first hobgoblin misses. The second hobgoblin misses. The first goblin hits Haldor for. I mean, hits Thumper for.

[Moon]

Take it.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Three points of damage.

[Thumper]

All right.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. And the other goblin.

[Moon]

We'll eat sandwiches later.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Misses.

[Thumper]

All right.

[Moon]

Not too bad.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Thumper]

Not too bad.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So Thumpar's turn.

[Moon]

Bring it.

[Thumper]

Oh, come on. Three.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Moon]

Plus four. Plus seven.

[Thumper]

Seven. Seven.

[Moon]

Seven.

[Thumper]

No. Nope.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah. Okay, so.

[Thumper]

Oh, I should have said who I was going for tips. Two up. Armored for that.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so, Trin, so now it's your turn. So what you. So now what would happen is any of those guys are engaged, which means you could basically choose to attack any one of them. And if you hit, you could attack. You could attach your sneak attack damage to them because two are attacking Haldor and two are attacking Thumper.

[Moon]

I would like to take the more menacing of the two. Is that a hobgoblin?

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Moon]

All right, so I'll take one of them.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. So you're gonna move your mini up.

[Thumper]

To the outside Thumper or the outside of me? Yeah, outside of me. Yeah, that's a good place.

[Jason Charles Miller]

It works. That's good.

[Thumper]

And you can still attack the big hablin there.

[Moon]

All right, so I'm gonna get him. Rolled a hit, but I'm not sure what to use. My magic dagger.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I would. I would say you've been using your dagger and it's been working out well. And any item that's magical is usually based on its properties, even though it's just a plus one dagger that gives you a better chance of hitting. So I would always go for that.

[Moon]

I would absolutely choose a magical God.

[Thumper]

Roll with your magic D20.

[Moon]

So 12 plus whatever it says in the deck. 7. So 19.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Great. You absolutely hit. You hit the hobgoblin. So now let's roll for. So you're gonna roll the dagger damage and then you're gonna roll the. The sneak attack damage.

[Moon]

Okay, so which one for dagger again?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Always four sided. Yep.

[Moon]

Oh, no.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, so dagger damage, so four plus your bonus.

[Moon]

So nine.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Nine. Great. And then your sneak attack damage, which.

[Thumper]

Is a six sided.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, one six.

[Moon]

You're going down, hobgoblin.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You just got him. That was it. Yeah. If you had rolled a one, he still would have been alive, but you got him. Good job, hob. He's now hobnobbing with the afterlife.

[Moon]

Afterlife.

[Thumper]

Yay.

[Moon]

I want my guy.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, Deborah, your turn.

[Thumper]

All right.

[Moon]

I am going to. Could I go through Haldor and kind of stand next between that goblin and the hobgoblin?

[Jason Charles Miller]

So yeah, you can move. So you can move through any ally's square in combat with no penalties.

[Moon]

Okay.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So yeah, you can absolutely move.

[Moon]

I would like to request that I do like a cool move where we like I roll over your back.

[Thumper]

Nice. I like that. Absolutely straight up, gently.

[Moon]

I love that. Yeah. He's like, you're doing so great. I'm proud to be your friend. And then I stand here and I'm gonna attack the hobgoblin.

[Thumper]

Okay, you know what?

[Moon]

No, I'm gonna attack the goblin because he's not getting enough attention, right? Certainly not with my hammer. Please roll. Good. That's a 16.

[Jason Charles Miller]

A 16 with your bonuses.

[Moon]

Yes.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You absolutely hit the goblin.

[Moon]

Yes. Stunned. Okay. And actually a D8 this time. Not a T10 and I get a 8.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You obliterate that.

[Moon]

All right. And then I'm gonna reach over for a high five from Heraldor.

[Thumper]

Great. Awesome.

[Jason Charles Miller]

That can be your swift action.

[Moon]

Yeah, my swift as a free action. I would like to high five.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, now. Interesting.

[Thumper]

The.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Orc kind of just hangs back. She doesn't really do anything. She just sort of watches. What's happening?

[Moon]

Get in here, girl. It's fun. Where's that charisma?

[Jason Charles Miller]

She passes.

[Moon]

Oh, wait. She didn't want to help with anybody.

[Jason Charles Miller]

She's just. She's just checking things out.

[Moon]

She doesn't know us.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah. So she wants you guys to prove your worth.

[Thumper]

Maybe. Okay.

[Moon]

Why isn't she helping?

[Jason Charles Miller]

I don't know. But she's not.

[Moon]

That's weird.

[Jason Charles Miller]

She's not helping.

[Moon]

I'm gonna read her a book about Chicken Little later. We'll all have a nice talk.

[Thumper]

Great.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You can probably find it in the library, perhaps.

[Moon]

Normal. Wonderful.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Thumper]

How about Europe? In keeping with my Elvish fighter nature, I'm going to use my longsword on this tall hobgoblin.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Excellent.

[Moon]

Obliterate him, would you?

[Thumper]

Yes. It's a six plus a four. So it's a ten.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Your noble longsword bounces harmlessly off of his armor, unfortunately. So it was a clean hit, but in no vital place. All right, Moon.

[Moon]

I guess I just go with the good old fire bolt.

[Thumper]

There you go.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Hey, tried and true one. Okay, so not.

[Moon]

No.

[Jason Charles Miller]

You wouldn't even add your bonuses because A1, a natural one in D and D is always A. No matter how many bonuses you add, that just means you totally, like, slipped on a banana peel or.

[Moon]

I'm never using the fireball ever again.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Have you hit with that yet?

[Moon]

I have no. Well, I did very, very, very. I think one time.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Once. I think you did one a little bit once.

[Moon]

Barely nicked them.

[Jason Charles Miller]

One's good. Okay, so now it's our goblin. Our hobgoblin and goblin are left.

[Moon]

I want to try a thing. I have a warding flare.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay.

[Moon]

And if I. I think it like at the hobgoblin, if he's attacking me. Or go like waa. And it's a bright light and it forces disadvantage on the roll.

[Jason Charles Miller]

That's pretty sure. And you can use that at any time. Is that the idea? Or do you have to wait for your turn?

[Moon]

All it says is force disadvantage on an attacker. I don't think I have to roll.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. Yeah.

[Moon]

He just has disadvantage.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So it's a ward. You Throw it out. You know, you say something. Yeah.

[Moon]

Bright light, right?

[Jason Charles Miller]

And it blinds him on his attack.

[Moon]

Okay, great channel Helm. And I'm like, be proud of me. This guy's scared now.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So he's gonna roll an attack at a disadvantage. So I'm gonna take the lower number and. Yeah, he totally missed.

[Thumper]

Good job.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So that's good.

[Moon]

Take that.

[Jason Charles Miller]

And then now we've got the Goblin that's still on Thumper. And he hit Thumper. And you take four points of damage.

[Moon]

All right.

[Thumper]

It's reasonable. Yep.

[Jason Charles Miller]

But it's your turn. You can take revenge right now.

[Thumper]

I will take six. Lame.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay. No, you missed. To Trin. What would you like to do?

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[Moon]

Ask your doctor about EBGLIS and visit epgliss.lilly.com or call 1-800-LilyRx or 1-800-545-597. I guess I should use that magical dagger. Let's see. Where am I?

[Jason Charles Miller]

So you can move through your. You can move through your.

[Moon]

I'll just notice. I can move through creatures of at least one size larger.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Right. And you can always move through your. Through your friendly. Through your allies.

[Moon]

Oh, I see.

[Jason Charles Miller]

At any time. So you could basically put yourself anywhere in that.

[Thumper]

You could be behind them. You could surround them.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, they're both engaged.

[Moon]

Can I really go behind the big guy?

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, you absolutely can.

[Moon]

I'm gonna do.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Do that and then just backstab the crap out of me.

[Thumper]

Yeah.

[Moon]

Great.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Okay, let's roll.

[Moon]

Come on. Give it to me. 16 plus 7.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Nice. Okay, roll for damage with your dagger, which is this guy. Then you add your bonuses.

[Moon]

Two plus five. Seven.

[Jason Charles Miller]

And now add your backstabbing damage.

[Moon]

He's dead.

[Jason Charles Miller]

That would be. You're gonna roll your D6.

[Moon]

Dang it.

[Thumper]

Yeah, just forget, okay? There's more on that one.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Oh, he's so dead.

[Moon]

Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Moon]

Lucky you guys have me.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Talk about stabbing in the back.

[Thumper]

Two hobgoblins.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Thumper]

You got a set?

[Moon]

I'm just gonna light trash on fire.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Hey, but, you know, you cleaned up the place, got rid of a lot.

[Thumper]

Of that trash, so we got one goblin left.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Got one goblin left now, Deborah, it's actually your turn now.

[Moon]

Oh, it's my turn again?

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah.

[Moon]

There's one goblin left. I would. Here's my proposal. I would like to go up to Thumper and feed him a healing potion. Is that a thing I can use my turn for? Like, he's down to five, so I'm worried about that.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yes, you can do that. But then that will be it for your turn. That's all you can do.

[Moon]

I mean, I guess I could try to kill it, but my impulse as Deborah is more like, I don't want him to get hurt. And then he can.

[Thumper]

You haven't rested long enough. Well, you can bring him back. And then after. What's her name? Laqua.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Lavacra.

[Thumper]

La Vacra. Then Haldor's up. Yeah. Okay. He'll get worked.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah, I think that's fine.

[Moon]

Okay, I'm gonna do that. I just care about so much. That's all I care about. Thank you. So I'm gonna just walk up and just, like, kind of mop off your brown. Make you drink a candle.

[Thumper]

Healing potion. Yeah.

[Moon]

Sandwiches. We can give you a. Yeah, they look like sandwiches. That's seven. So seven plus two. Nine.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Great.

[Moon]

So I think you're up to full.

[Thumper]

Pretty close.

[TJ Watt]

Yeah, he's full.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Awesome. Okay, now it's Laura's turn. And she engages. She engages the goblin. So you can go ahead and move her straight up to that. To that goblin.

[Thumper]

I was concerned she gonna turn on us. I was about to be like, you know what? Let's attack.

[Jason Charles Miller]

She attacks the goblin, but misses. But she does attack the goblin. So Haldor, your.

[Thumper]

They have a little, like, look beforehand, like. Yeah. Oh.

[Moon]

So it's really cool.

[Thumper]

I did an 18 right out of the box. I was like, wow. So, yeah. So 18.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Well, you need to. You start to move. I'll. I'll take the 18. It's fine. But you needed to actually move into that space. Space, which is fine.

[Thumper]

Oh, yeah. Can you go diagonal? Yes.

[Jason Charles Miller]

I'll assume that you did that right here.

[Thumper]

Diagonally. Yeah.

[Jason Charles Miller]

Yeah. Pretty sneaky.

[Thumper]

And then long sword. Yeah, long sword. So 18 plus 4. So 22 should be a hit. Yeah, definitely. Right. And then my D8 plus 2 will be a 4. 4 damage on.

[Jason Charles Miller]

4 damage on the. He is hanging on by a thread. He's hanging on by a thread. Moon, it's all up to you. It's gonna work. Sooner or later, it's gonna work.

[Thumper]

Yeah. We believe in you. We believe in you.

[Moon]

We believe 20.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So you don't even have to roll for damage.

[Moon]

Yay.

[Thumper]

I get the.

[Jason Charles Miller]

All those misses that you did, just.

[Moon]

You're mine.

[Jason Charles Miller]

It's literally like a small little nuclear explosion. You just hit that goblin. He exploded into a million pieces. And just. There's a. You see this fireball of light and then goes out and there's just.

[Moon]

And his head comes on camera and it just goes.

[Jason Charles Miller]

So this is a really good place to stop. And we'll be back soon.

[Thumper]

Soon. Oh, yeah.

[Moon]

All right. Organizador de viajes de Expedia. Expedia. Vivimos paraviajar.

[Jason Charles Miller]

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