Quests N’ Answers | Inside Sagas of Sundry: Goblin Mode Ep. 20

Summary

Critical Role & Sagas of Sundry: Quests N’ Answers | Inside Sagas of Sundry: Goblin Mode Ep. 20

Released on March 19, 2025

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Introduction

In the grand finale of Sagas of Sundry: Goblin Mode, host Dan Casey and cast members Danielle Radford, Amy Vorpahl, and Jason Nguyen delve deep into the culmination of their epic campaign. This episode of Quests N’ Answers serves as a comprehensive retrospective, exploring pivotal moments, character developments, and the emotional highs and lows that defined the season.

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Episode Finale Recap

Dan Casey opens the discussion by expressing gratitude to the audience, acknowledging the bittersweet nature of concluding Goblin Mode. He remarks, “Thank you to everyone out there who's listened, watched, supported us, joined us on this journey” ([01:39]). The finale episode (Ep. 20) was highlighted as a masterful blend of epic set pieces and unexpected twists, effectively bookending the series.

Jason Nguyen reflects on the climactic battles, stating, “They are powerful adventurers, and the fact that you were able to take them down kind of one by one does give really poetic justice” ([03:32]). The team successfully defeated the Yester Dusters, culminating in the downfall of their nemeses through strategic prowess and environmental advantages like magma.

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Character Discussions and Highlights

The discussion delves into specific character strategies and pivotal decisions made during the finale:

• Dan Casey’s Strategy: Dan chose to restore his spell slots over HP, enabling strategic transformations to stay alive. He explains, “I decided to restore his spell slots despite sitting pretty at 3 hp the entire episode” ([03:52]).

• Jason Nguyen on Fibs: Jason praised the character development of Fibs, emphasizing the poetic justice in defeating Taganuk and his allies. He notes, “You plucked the Ring of Sagrina right off Taganuk before he burned to death” ([04:26]).

• Danielle Radford’s Tactics: Danielle opted for deception, using the mask charm to distract enemies without expending spell slots. She shares, “I would like to not be attacked. I just wanted to again, distract them” ([05:47]).

• Amy Vorpahl’s Heroism: Amy discusses the critical moment of calling upon a deity to avert disaster, highlighting the tension and urgency, “This was a last ditch effort... I was like, I'm gonna call on it and see what happens” ([12:34]).

The group also humorously critiques their own strategies, referencing overpowered abilities and the balance of encounters, with Amy commenting, “They have all artifacts of the Sundari. That is many and very powerful stuff” ([04:19]).

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Memorable Moments and Shocking Events

Several standout moments from the finale are dissected:

• The Death of Tippy: Dan Casey describes Tippy’s death as “pure shock factor” and a pivotal emotional moment for the campaign ([35:29]). The cast reflects on the brutality and necessity of this event, acknowledging its impact on character development.

• Crandall’s Role: Crandall, an NPC, is portrayed as a balance between helpful and antagonistic, likened to “a pop-up saying, hey, you've been browsing for a while” ([08:19]). His interactions added depth and complexity to the narrative.

• Goblin Games and Naming Conventions: The cast humorously engages in creating goblin names, revealing the playful side of their storytelling. Dan remarks, “You just choose the worst possible thing to say” ([51:43]).

• Emotional Decisions: Danielle highlights the characters' growth in making weighty decisions, stating, “This is our chance now to go forward and do something else” ([37:40]). The team emphasizes the importance of choosing to embrace their identities over reverting to past forms.

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Campaign Reflection and Insights

The discussion transitions into a broader reflection on the Goblin Mode campaign:

• Unexpected Plot Twists: Jason shares his surprise at the inclusion of a prominent goblin character, Pekara, and the organic evolution of the story, “Putting a female goblin in was cool” ([33:29]).

• World-Building Challenges: Dan Casey and Jason discuss the challenges of scaling the narrative and adjusting the geography based on player decisions, highlighting the dynamic nature of their storytelling process.

• Moral Complexity: The cast explores the morality spectrum within their campaign, noting how playing as traditionally "evil" characters allowed for nuanced storytelling. Jason muses, “Morality is a spectrum” ([15:54]).

• Magic Items as Narrative Tools: Danielle and Jason delve into the integration of magic items, discussing their impact on gameplay and narrative progression. Jason explains the mechanics behind the Ring of Sagrina, emphasizing its narrative significance ([24:19]).

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Emotional Highs and Lows

The emotional journey of Goblin Mode is a focal point:

• Attachment to Characters: Jason and Danielle express their deep connection to their characters, acknowledging the pain and satisfaction of character deaths and triumphs. Danielle states, “It was very important, I think, at some point where we did have the weight of our choices” ([47:54]).

• Balancing Humor and Drama: The cast reflects on balancing comedic elements with intense, emotional moments, ensuring a well-rounded narrative experience. Amy remarks, “We were like, oh, no. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it in the background and it was bad” ([48:19]).

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Future Prospects and Conclusion

As the season concludes, the cast contemplates the future:

• Potential for Season Two: Dan Casey and Jason express eagerness to continue adventures, hoping to explore more of the Sundari world. Dan states, “All the more reason for us to hopefully do a second season” ([27:27]).

• Open-Ended Storylines: The finale leaves room for future plot developments, with threats like the Scythe of Irelia and Unzoog hinting at ongoing conflicts across planes of reality.

• Final Thoughts: The cast shares their pride in the campaign’s accomplishments, balancing feelings of completion with anticipation for what lies ahead. Dan concludes, “This has been a true pleasure” ([51:49]).

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Casey: “Revenge is a dish best served magma.” ([32:01])
• Danielle Radford: “I'm a hero as I am.” ([37:40])
• Amy Vorpahl: “I stand by it. I don't think they're good.” ([07:14])

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Looking Ahead

Quests N’ Answers wraps up with heartfelt thanks to the audience and partners at Geek & Sundry and Legendary Digital Network. The cast hints at future adventures for Fibs, Busy, and Tippy, leaving fans eagerly anticipating what’s next in the multiverse of Sagas of Sundry.

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For more adventures and episodes, visit Geek & Sundry and stay tuned to Critical Role & Sagas of Sundry for continued epic storytelling.

Transcript

[Narrator]

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[Dan Casey]

Out of the frying pan and into the flyer Folks. This is the end of Goblin Mode. I'm Dan Casey. This is Sagas of Sundry Quests and Answers. We're talking about the epic Goblin Mode finale. And to join me as always, my.

[Danielle Radford]

Amazing cast, Danielle Radford, Amy Vorpahl, Jason.

[Dan Casey]

Nguyen and folks, I think it should go without saying, especially if you're watching this or listening to this, you have made it to the bittersweet end. That means there are going to be spoilers not just for the finale of Goblin Mode, but the entire campaign. So we're going to be looking back at the entirety of the series with a special focus on what just happened in the previous episode. We are so excited about what's to come and we're so excited for the story we got to tell. So first and foremost, thank you to everyone out there who's listened, watched, supported us, joined us on this journey. It's been the privilege of a lifetime for us to tell this story and thank you from everyone in front of the camera and behind the scenes. It's just been a a real blast getting to make something special and put it out into the world for all of you folks to experience alongside us. So with that said, I Want to start off by talking about the episode that just unfolded, the epic finale, episode 20 of Goblin Mode. And this was one. It was full of so many epic set pieces, so many unexpected moments, and definitely a long overdue encounter. It was a nice bookend to the series. It began with the Yester Dusters, and it ended with the Ester Dusters. Or rather we ended the Ester Dusters.

[Jason Nguyen]

I mean, it was some really, really bad roles. And, yeah, I mean, they're powerful adventurers, and the fact that you were able to take them down kind of one by one does give really poetic justice to where you started out in a pit running from them and then where you are now, which was defeating them one magma at a time. Yeah, the magma did kind of worse damage to them than it did to you, like, the environment. It was like, what is happening?

[Dan Casey]

You gave us a very, I thought, cool choice at the beginning of the episode. It was like a boon from Euthys.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yes.

[Dan Casey]

She granted us a choice. She would either restore us to full HP or restore our spell slots. And Fibs chose to restore his spell slots despite sitting pretty at 3 hp the entire episode.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yes.

[Dan Casey]

But I did this because one of the things that the staff of Roll Bear that lets Fibs do is take these different forms. And you said the tree has 100 hp. The giant boa constrictor snake in the monster manual has 60 hp. So I'm like, okay, well, I will switch forms if I'm getting low, and I will switch forms just to stay alive. But I just tried to wait until the bitter end to finally morph back into Fibs and hope for the best that I didn't get hit by, like, a passing crow or something.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. I was doing, like, by the end of it, it was like, oh, they have all artifacts of the Sundari. That is many and very powerful stuff. And, you know, I wrote them to be like, well, if they got one, well, that would be amazing. And if they got two, wow. With how powerful. But you wound up, especially, like, you plucked. You plucked the Ring of Sagrina right off Taganuk before he burned to death.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah.

[Jason Nguyen]

Melted.

[Dan Casey]

I think that definitely, of everyone, Tonganook had the most brutal.

[Jason Nguyen]

He just couldn't. He couldn't get a leg up. He can cast something.

[Dan Casey]

Hovered in Luff's webs, set on fire, immediately attacked by a snake, shot in the face.

[Danielle Radford]

And, you know, if he would have been able to reveal that. I was not actually that busy, was not actually.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, that's the other thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he couldn't.

[Dan Casey]

He was the only one who knew.

[Jason Nguyen]

He was the only one who even.

[Danielle Radford]

Suspected, which is why he had to die. Narcs die.

[Jason Nguyen]

But everyone used to get stitched your speech of like, oh, no, you're just days over. Go home early. Like, the other two just bought it. And that, like, wouldn't have happened if you weren't level four and if you didn't take the actor feed. And, like, all of that was just. There were just so many not favors, but you were in favor. Like, the game had your favor in so many ways.

[Danielle Radford]

And this is. It was definitely like, I, you know, I had two. So obviously cantrips I can do for whenever. I had one spell slot left because I needed to get my HP back.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yes.

[Danielle Radford]

And so I'm looking at the things that I can do. And that's why I decided since I have the mask charm that doesn't take a spell slot. So I was like, hey, let's just. Even if I can't necessarily attack them without. But I know they're powerful, so I would like to not be attacked. I just wanted to again, distract them and say, like, hey, if I can get them to leave, great. I don't know if that's gonna happen, but if I can trick them enough where they're at least confused so that we can get a couple of rounds on them, every little bit helps.

[Jason Nguyen]

It's a good bookend, too, because fibs did disguise self unzu early and it was like trash because he never really seen it.

[Dan Casey]

Okay.

[Danielle Radford]

No, you did your best. It wasn't your fault. Your best was garbage.

[Amy Vorpahl]

You didn't take the actor fe. Yeah, it's true.

[Dan Casey]

I took the disaster feat. No, I got my feet by the end. I got telekinesis.

[Jason Nguyen]

You were doing everything people until magic. That's key.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I mean, I would argue that probably did the most damage with pushing people into lava.

[Dan Casey]

I think it is one of the most in any game, especially any Star wars game. It's nothing more joyful than force pushing someone off a ledge. And this was that to the nth degree, because there are arch nemeses, Even though they probably haven't thought about us at all since they left.

[Jason Nguyen]

It was playground for them.

[Danielle Radford]

It was Tuesday.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, but it is so playground. Like little kid pushing. But it's like, oh, yeah, it's not. If there's magma on the other side.

[Danielle Radford]

Of the step, the floor is lava.

[Jason Nguyen]

So he was lava.

[Dan Casey]

Then the ceiling was rocks.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. But again, I feel like the freaking Yesterday dusters took a Lot more damage than y'all did.

[Amy Vorpahl]

It was perfect to me because I feel like, what a beautiful, organic way for the Terror Squad to be doing combat. Like, I couldn't imagine it any other way. I'm blasting, you're casting, and Bizzy's lying through her teeth like, yes, yes. That's just how it has to go down.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

Bizzy full on, like, rogue and actor with the actor feet with the bard stuff. Bizzy is just straight up a con woman.

[Dan Casey]

The actor feat is crazy. Oh, my God. When you're like. And specifically with disguise self, I'm like, they didn't know what to do.

[Jason Nguyen]

No.

[Dan Casey]

They were like, all right, boss. Sure thing, boss.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yep. That's it. And then they don't attack you. And they were about to leave before the magma started firing up.

[Danielle Radford]

But it was, well, and then Crandall, because, I mean, Crandall doesn't have the actor feat. So Crandall had to be like, ew, make it ew. You're so scary. And it's like, just stand there. Yeah. Crandall being Crandall. Crandalling everything up.

[Dan Casey]

He did almost greck things up.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. Crandall was a.

[Danielle Radford]

He did almost correct things up.

[Jason Nguyen]

He was for me, like, I always wanted him to be a magic item that had negative effects. Just him being around is a bad thing for you specifically. Obviously, he does come with his insights and intelligence that managed to help things out, but it was important that he stuck around. And I think we did see him really. Yeah. Be a real stinker in this episode too. So I don't know why I like Crandall. I don't think I do. But it's just like, you've gotten so many good magic items. It feels like Crandall has to be this balance in the force negative magic item.

[Dan Casey]

Crandall is like when you're on a webpage and you get a pop up saying, like, hey, you've been browsing for a while. You should make a free account to keep to keep reading.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah. Such a Crandall, Just tell me the information.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amy Vorpahl]

If you subscribe $5.99, it will kill you.

[Jason Nguyen]

And then he just keeps sending you emails, like, five times a. I did.

[Dan Casey]

Have a very dark thought when we were all up in the air. I'm like, if Crandall's the only person falling, do I save him? I mean, he's the only person falling. It's fibs personal trolley problem. Do you save him? And the answer is, unfortunately, despite all of fibs impulses, yes, because he could have valuable information about unzoog. And that's it.

[Jason Nguyen]

I know. Well, the Marx was on his side, too, from the very beginning. Because he did have. He did have some unzug.

[Amy Vorpahl]

What? I mean, can we talk about the sort of last sort of challenge we had coming out of the volcano for a second? I have never been more stressed in my life. Being knocked out last minute by a falling rock, unconscious. And then when you didn't grab the ladder, I was like, no way. You're not doing this to me. You're not gonna sacrifice yourself. No, you're not doing. I know. You were. I had to. I was worried that I wouldn't get stabilized and I wouldn't get to, like, try to save my life.

[Dan Casey]

I did have some backup plans, though.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Okay.

[Dan Casey]

Because I had. That's why I wanted my spell slots restored. Because I could have done one more vortex warp to save someone else.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Got it. Got it.

[Dan Casey]

Like Picara.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Is that a first level spell slot?

[Dan Casey]

It's a second level spell.

[Amy Vorpahl]

So good.

[Dan Casey]

It's very good. I didn't even know it existed. But I was just like. I thought about it because thinking back to Urd Curve Fathom, when you were a dead body, I was able to misty step because the life had left you. You were effectively a meat object. But if you're sentient, if you're alive, like, I needed something. And this is specifically something that you can use to teleport people, either with their permission or against their will with a con save if they choose not to be teleported.

[Jason Nguyen]

So does.

[Dan Casey]

But I was saving my first level spell slots. Cause I still had. While I was saving a second level because I still had a misty step I could have done to save myself. But I was also gonna. I was keeping feather fall just in case to like. Okay, can you guys try and throw me the ladder one more time?

[Jason Nguyen]

One more time. Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

Also, I'm sorry, every time you say misty step, it just sounds like something that you're doing at a graduation party. Like, okay, everybody get down to the floor.

[Amy Vorpahl]

It's time to misty step.

[Dan Casey]

Fib's Cha Cha's real smooth at first level.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I slide to the left, busy will.

[Danielle Radford]

Slide to the right.

[Jason Nguyen]

And Picara, like, she's a goblin, bit of a chaos agent. Just slamming a harpoon right into My God.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Killed no other way. Yeah, I guess.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. Like, that was the math she did.

[Danielle Radford]

Look, when your only tool is a harpoon, I guess every problem becomes a whale.

[Jason Nguyen]

But it wasn't the only solution, because at the end of the day. You had seen that Unzoog as his champion. As her champion was able to not Unzoog. Yeah. Unzoog. As her. As Euthysis champion was able to pull her wherever he wanted her calling. It did come back.

[Amy Vorpahl]

That's what I remembered.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. Come back to play as the real youth. This is champion.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I didn't know if it would work. I didn't know if she would be too busy saving some dwarves. But I just.

[Jason Nguyen]

I'm so glad you thought of that.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, it was really like a last ditch effort because I was like, there's no way my little weird ear wings are gonna keep us afloat. Even with the Featherfall. I was like, I'm just going to. The first time we actually get to interact with a deity. And I am supposedly her champion. I'm gonna call on it and see what happens. And so glad you came.

[Dan Casey]

That is the most tippy thing to do. Like the second God leaves the room being like, you're my champion. Call me if you need me. Two seconds later.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Hey. Hey.

[Dan Casey]

God.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Hey. God. Do you please.

[Dan Casey]

Sorry. All my friends are about to die. What happened?

[Jason Nguyen]

God.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Oh, burn. Don't ask.

[Dan Casey]

I was gone. I was gone for under a minute. If you calculate the real time.

[Amy Vorpahl]

That is crazy.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, that is true.

[Danielle Radford]

I mean, it could be better. It is tippy. So it could have just been like, hey, so do you like me?

[Jason Nguyen]

I was like, what the.

[Amy Vorpahl]

So doing a good job, you think?

[Dan Casey]

Yeah.

[Jason Nguyen]

Right? Yes. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Is there more belt I can have?

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah, we gotta get tips. We gotta get you a title belt, my son.

[Dan Casey]

Oh, yeah. For the Goblin Games.

[Amy Vorpahl]

For sure. I'm wondering what would have happened had we not defeated the Yesterday Dusters. Would we have fought them in the air or would they. Would they have.

[Jason Nguyen]

There was a. I mean, I don't know if you could tell. There was a real pretty high percentage. I thought chance that one of you would die.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Would fall to the yester.

[Jason Nguyen]

Dusters would fall. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

For sure.

[Jason Nguyen]

Drop to the bottom of the magma and that would be that. I mean not that would be that. But it's like they're not.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I mean, magma. That would be that.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. They were a really balanced challenge rating for what I thought, by the way. But yeah. I mean with. But you did also have. Yeah. Pekara fighting alongside you too. So. And the magma again, like did more damage to them than it did to you.

[Dan Casey]

I wonder if people tooting in at home thinks that we're just absolute monsters for the way we just brutally murdered all of the yester Dusters, they had it coming.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Come on.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah.

[Jason Nguyen]

I mean, and they were fighting you. So, you know, it could be argued self defense.

[Danielle Radford]

And yeah, they're not good people. They are mercenaries. That's true. Like they would do anything for a dollar. So if it wasn't now, it was going to be at some point because they were fighting for. They were able. They were okay with the entire world being messed up by the Scythe, by Unzuk. So I would rather get him now than have to deal with them later.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. All of that does make me think of how I thought of alignment and how I normally think of alignment, which is like, we'll just see how it goes. Normally in campaigns it's like, okay, the monsters are evil and the good guys are kind of good. But this one, I was like, well, we are playing monsters and undead. They would say evil. And some goblins are even classified as evil. So it was like, well, that's not fair. We want to see what the characters will do. And arguably the alignment shifted more.

[Dan Casey]

Morality is a spectrum.

[Jason Nguyen]

It's a spectrum.

[Amy Vorpahl]

We're good, aligned. Definitely doing a fake out. Reach for my hand. I promise to save you. That was then. Blast.

[Dan Casey]

Losing my mind when you did it three times in a row.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

Also, I gave them the chance to leave. I kept telling them when they stayed.

[Jason Nguyen]

They were on their way back. Very true.

[Danielle Radford]

If you stay, you will die. And that kept being like, well, let's see what happens. And I kept being like, you can leave now I'm on fire and I won't go.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Casey]

There was a moment you rolled to see if they could have been convinced.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

And I think we'd just missed it because I think we could have convinced them to leave and we'd just like, oh, leave this.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Leave this guy.

[Dan Casey]

He's dying.

[Jason Nguyen]

It was interesting to me. Yeah. It was like, I guess maybe this whole thing, I mean, you would still be blasted out of the volcano and that would have been that. But yeah, there was a really, really high chance, especially with your deception where this encounter that did a lot of damage to you and you were fighting these people, just didn't happen, you know, it was just the Gallantlings just moved on. And we're like, well, yeah. Taganook Rip.

[Dan Casey]

Rest in pieces.

[Jason Nguyen]

Rest in pieces. Rest in burning, Burning feast.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I stand by it. I don't think they're good.

[Dan Casey]

I like that.

[Amy Vorpahl]

It's Taganuk, Verutha and Kathy.

[Jason Nguyen]

Kathy. Yeah. They have last names too.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Oh, what are their last names?

[Danielle Radford]

What's Cathy's Last name?

[Jason Nguyen]

Gali's last name is Johnson.

[Dan Casey]

Damn.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Daffy Johnson.

[Dan Casey]

Daffy Johnson.

[Jason Nguyen]

I just thought I was like, trying to do, you know, like a basic party human, dwarf, gnome, sorcerer, you know, caster, fighter, rogue. And so I was like, kathy Johnson makes sense. Berutha Baralbein and Taganook Fluconazzle. Almost Donk nozzle, but not quite Flukenzle. And then can you imagine if he.

[Dan Casey]

Was donk nozzle and related to Pekora?

[Amy Vorpahl]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, my God.

[Amy Vorpahl]

That would have been a twist.

[Jason Nguyen]

A goblin gnome situation. It's like. Then you just. Sister, you have to ask who breeds true. The gnomes or the goblins. Which one is this? Who knows? Who knows? Well, that didn't happen because she's Fluke Nozzle. But maybe they do share some DNA on some level.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And what did you say before? If we ever got married, I would be a fluke.

[Dan Casey]

You'd be dunk nozzle.

[Jason Nguyen]

Could be Donk nozzle.

[Danielle Radford]

Damn, that's a good idea.

[Jason Nguyen]

As opposed to bus vlog or terrorist bus vlog.

[Danielle Radford]

Oh, no wonder she could dance. Her last name is Donk?

[Dan Casey]

Hell, yeah.

[Amy Vorpahl]

A lot of it was Donk.

[Dan Casey]

She got dancer there.

[Jason Nguyen]

Nice.

[Dan Casey]

There are cathedrals everywhere for those. For eyes to see.

[Jason Nguyen]

Jason, you told us earlier, like at lunch, that you cannot get the picture of what I described, of Picara twerking us to be down. I wanted out of your head.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Give the context of, like, everything has been so in world. I mean, to your credit, you' you're so good at describing everything, and everything is so thematic. And then it's this umbaba dance and you're like. And yeah. So her voluptuous butt cheeks sort of just like wobble left and right and that booty go big. And I was like, wait, excuse me. And so that's why I thought I had to roll for a boner.

[Dan Casey]

FTBC versus boyoing.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Uh oh. I roll for the boy. It was the most, like, out of place, but, like, perfect thing you could describe because the last thing I thought.

[Jason Nguyen]

Was, I think goblins are a little horny.

[Ross Bryant]

Yeah.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

Bakura rolls for what that fang do.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah, yeah. A lot of motion back there.

[Dan Casey]

And we go to the table to find out what it do.

[Jason Nguyen]

What it do.

[Dan Casey]

I do want to talk about sort of where we end things.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Because we end things in a very kind of, like, tense place.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. It's not happy.

[Dan Casey]

Unfortunately. We end in a heroic manner, but with the prospect of war across multiple planes of realities.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

We have the Scythe of Aurelia plotting an all out assault across land, air and sea. Their alliance with the giant dragon turtle that just feasted on endless corpses. And still one of the most horrifying sequences in the campaign.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, my gosh.

[Dan Casey]

We also unzug is trekking towards where I presume the last bastion of the Sundari is on the astral plane. Because that is something that's been seeded continually throughout the campaign, that they've left this world behind. They're all on the astral plane now. Like, I don't know whether they're cowering or they're waging endless war with Firaxis, but we'll find out. It's definitely kind of a shocking. I was like, when I realized I'm like, well, we're. I'm at like 3hp. I can't go do an astral fortress right now.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, no.

[Dan Casey]

And it's Then I'm like, oh, okay, there's gotta be future adventures. There's gotta be future things for us to resolve.

[Jason Nguyen]

It's so hard to end a campaign and just go like, okay, I guess the. I mean, also, like, let's be clear, you just leveled up to level four. Like, that is not even near the end for a character. You started at level one. You started kind of level zero. Like, it's just. That's no place you're not gonna be fighting deities. You're not gonna be fighting big necromancers. You're not.

[Dan Casey]

Just watch us.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, yeah, you say that now.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, well, the Scythe of Irelia. Especially not in the version that you saw it. Oh, yeah, it was just not the time. But that's a lot, I think, of a level one through level four. It's like you're gonna be making changes and causing obviously like helping people and changing the course of the world. But you guys are the butterfly's wings. Not the tidal wings.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, the butterfly that greets the morning.

[Jason Nguyen]

What is it? The butterfly.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, I'll just mudge a bumphrass trying.

[Dan Casey]

Not to get atomized by every trap that we encounter.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah, I mean, truly, I was really looking forward to trying to use that last beat of force, but everyone was too close.

[Jason Nguyen]

That would be great.

[Danielle Radford]

Every time I was trying to find a way to use it, it would always be that someone was on a plan and it would have hurt one of our dudes.

[Dan Casey]

Oh, well, I did have an image of taking Tuganook and being like, eat up.

[Jason Nguyen]

Horrible. He would have exploded.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, of course. Why else do it?

[Danielle Radford]

I was always gonna go for him. Because I was waiting for him to reveal that I was, like, doing a thing. So I feel like that's burned up. Yeah. I feel like that's why we all went a little hard on him. Cause he kept chasing.

[Jason Nguyen]

Well, we do have some NPCs around the party who probably will level up, too. Probably not Crandall, because, like, oh, goodness. I just like him being.

[Dan Casey]

I got more ink.

[Jason Nguyen]

Horrible.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

We have to get him a new ink pot.

[Jason Nguyen]

Luff level up for next season.

[Dan Casey]

He's not gonna be able to live in my ribcage much longer.

[Amy Vorpahl]

What class is Luff?

[Jason Nguyen]

Spider class. That's a good. I don't know.

[Dan Casey]

He's a web slinger.

[Amy Vorpahl]

She's a webslinger.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, webslinger, sure. Yeah. She gets shoes, right? She gets to decide.

[Dan Casey]

Oath breaker.

[Jason Nguyen]

Rani. Rani. We have some unfinished business.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yes.

[Danielle Radford]

Now I'm wearing her out. I'm, like, wearing her crown.

[Jason Nguyen]

You literally have. Yeah. Minas Dora's circlet, which is ranni.

[Danielle Radford]

And if I have her circlet. Cause we had theorized, it's easier for her. It's easier for her to always be in the throne room where, like, her statue is. And it means that when it's time for her to leave, she has to skadooj. So I wonder if, now that I have her circlet, she could hang out a little bit long.

[Jason Nguyen]

I think that's very probable.

[Dan Casey]

I was admittedly very worried when you put on the circlet and it immediately injected you with, like, sapphire needles.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. So that circlet is a magic item that I actually built for, like, another project. And I was like, I really like this. Like, I'm gonna put it in this campaign, too. But what it does is the magic item. You can make a target creature tell you on their next turn what they're gonna do. Their action. Bonus action, reaction movement and a legendary action. If that's applicable, then they must do it. So if you're out of range or if they're like, you can do things to prevent that from happening. And if there's something that they declared that they can no longer do, they use their action, their bonus action, whatever, to do nothing.

[Danielle Radford]

That's fantastic. Yeah. The reason I decided to attune to that and not attune to the ring was because since I was out of spell slots, I was like, well, it's Rani's. Maybe if I attune to it, then without using a spell slot, maybe I can call. Use it to call through.

[Jason Nguyen]

I love that.

[Danielle Radford]

To get a hold of her. But then instead, it hurt. Me real bad.

[Jason Nguyen]

You probably still could have done it. But yeah, it's one of those. I mean, it's just. It messes with the mechanics in a way that's like, ooh, it doesn't feel good. Like as a dungeon Master, you would just get to know what my up to doing. So that has to be mitigated in some way. And that was what it was decided. I don't know. Magic items are really fun and building a campaign around, like the whole campaign was basically a magic item campaign. Yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

And I am dripping right now.

[Amy Vorpahl]

You are dripping.

[Danielle Radford]

I've got my ring, I've got my crown, I've got my chalice.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And your clipboard.

[Jason Nguyen]

And your clipboard.

[Danielle Radford]

Now my Doucet cup.

[Jason Nguyen]

If we play this again, I just have to. All these magic items might be.

[Amy Vorpahl]

But we needed them real bad.

[Jason Nguyen]

I like that you had them to a point. But yeah, I mean, artificers are broken. I stand.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah. Our constant duel with. Are you sure you can do that?

[Jason Nguyen]

I'm like, yeah, familiars, force damage, it's not even piercing. They're not shooting a gun. They're like magical little guys. It's like, he's just a little guy.

[Dan Casey]

He's just a little guy.

[Jason Nguyen]

He's just a little guy. Yeah. I mean, some really clutch moves. But also, I think artificers are broken.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, just like Overall, Amy, like 10 episodes in, you've watched us do so much stuff. Like, how do you feel? Do you feel like, you know, do.

[Jason Nguyen]

You feel like I need a season two? I don't feel complete. It's very weird because it does feel like, yeah, that's the end of the season. But it also. It's like there's some success some. But like, did everything turn out? Not really, you know, like Unzuk did get away. I mean, there was a version where he, I don't know, Youthis could have overtaken him or he could have overtaken Euthus. Either way. Like, no, not. I don't. I mean, I like that you nailed the yester dusters, but they were but a small part of the Scythe of Irelia and also co aligned with Eunzug too. So I feel. I feel both complete and incomplete, if I'm completely honest. And overall, very proud of what we made. Very, very impressed with you all. And also really proud of myself. But it's bittersweet because it's like there is. We never got to Colare, which like, Kaller is awesome. And there's just some things that like, oh, we just kept going To Finsettle Delve, which by nature of the fact, like, Eunsug needed to get in there. So of course that's where he needed to go. We had to go there. But there's other. I thought we might get a little more into the wilds. Not quite the desolation, which Meyerfinit is in the wilds, but there's the beyond, and then there's like, there's just so many other geographic locations in Tsundaras that. Yeah. Good luck getting to all the geography.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. Well, all the more reason for us to hopefully do a second season and explore the rest of Sundaros and just.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, it's hard not to get attached to a world, you know, Much less difficult to get attached to the characters. And while I was like, oh, someone might die today, I was very clear with. I was like, okay, but we've always got Euthus. And no one's gonna die, right? No one's gonna die. You know, it's just.

[Dan Casey]

I was prepared. I was prepared to die. Fibs. It felt in character. Felt like, this is a decision he would make. Like, this is the. Like, everything's on fire.

[Jason Nguyen]

I saw that in your eyes and I was like, too.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I had sheer, like, panic.

[Jason Nguyen]

Like, I. Yeah. It wasn't a comfortable feeling, which, like. I mean, the Dungeon Master, you don't want to take a side or anything, but, like, it's hard. I mean. Yeah. When you died, I mean, my brain broke for a while, you know, and so it was like, I want there to be story. I want there to be the mechanics. I want it to make sense. And also, I'm going to be taking busy fibs and Tippi's side all the time.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah. Plus, it was my turn.

[Dan Casey]

Yes.

[Danielle Radford]

I get to die this time.

[Amy Vorpahl]

No one die.

[Jason Nguyen]

Well, you did get harmed. I did get died. And if you hadn't talked to Euthus, like, who knows?

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my only plan is.

[Dan Casey]

Can you imagine? Just imagine all three of our bodies missing the ladder and falling into the abyss.

[Jason Nguyen]

All the magic I saw, I hope.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Like, honestly, I could see that happening.

[Jason Nguyen]

I mean. Yeah, the ladders, I mean, brought to.

[Dan Casey]

You by the rings of the mist.

[Jason Nguyen]

Well, it's also precarious. Cause the magma's shooting up too. There's a lot of environment happening, too.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. Well, looking. I mean, I think this episode was full of some really shocking moments. And that being one of them, just when someone does something unexpected. I'm curious, was there. Looking back over the course of the whole of the campaign, is there a moment that really shocked you, took you back, or surprised you in either, like a just exciting way, just a fun way or anything.

[Jason Nguyen]

Here's an insight. So Theater of the Mind, you know, we do have some graphics. We've got some. But I always knew, like, oh, we might go to different geographies just based on where I'm feeling the vibe is. And I can switch things up in between episodes. Okay, okay. Cause we don't have minis. You know, we have pictures. But the geography, it's like, oh, just.

[Dan Casey]

Words with which to paint a mental portrait.

[Jason Nguyen]

That's right. And words. So the first thing that happened in episode one, I thought I had laid the groundwork for y'all to go to the Crater of Sorrow to follow the Yesterdusters immediately. And I was like, well, clearly we're going to the Crater of Sorrow. I had episodes. What were they? 3 and 4. Pretty much all figured out. And it was gonna be Crater of Sorrow, and we were gonna figure that out. You were gonna get the. Maybe the circlet, maybe the ring, you know, like all of this was a skravix, you know, like there was gonna be some stuff. And immediately you're like, I guess we go to Nak Brecken. I'm like, oh, Nakreka. I hadn't put until, like, episode 16 or 17, because I was like, we can't go there. Like, that'll be all the factions together. That'll be crazy.

[Dan Casey]

The way you described the Crater of Sorrow in the beginning, though, it seemed unscalable.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yes.

[Dan Casey]

It seemed so huge.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I agree.

[Dan Casey]

And I was like.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And we were just babies.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. We're three babies that wandered out of Plato's Cave.

[Jason Nguyen]

So funny.

[Dan Casey]

Where do we go? I guess we'll go to a town instead of.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, it just.

[Dan Casey]

Instead of.

[Jason Nguyen]

I painted it too intimidating.

[Dan Casey]

Of a cataclysm that's full of the bones of the gods who have left.

[Jason Nguyen]

This plane of reality. When you say it like, aside from that.

[Amy Vorpahl]

The Yesterdusters killed everybody.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. And I asked you, how big are these walls? You're like a couple hundred feet.

[Jason Nguyen]

I mean, it was like a massive deity. Like, of course it's a. Maybe not.

[Danielle Radford]

So we're going to go to a tattoo.

[Jason Nguyen]

You could climb a 200 foot hill.

[Amy Vorpahl]

They've murdered all of our friends. They killed Maxwell. And the last thing we did was I was teaching my friends how to eat a bat. Like, we're not going to go fight anybody.

[Jason Nguyen]

I know. Hearing it from the mouth of babes. It sounds so simple, but in my dishes I bet it was like, of course they're going to want revenge on these people.

[Dan Casey]

And we always did.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And we got it.

[Jason Nguyen]

And you did, and you got it, and you got it.

[Dan Casey]

Revenge is a dish best served magma.

[Jason Nguyen]

So I don't want to say that's like the most surprising thing because obviously you guys. But it was my first like, oh, this is not gonna be. This isn't gonna be my campaign. This is gonna be Yalls campaign. And we'll, you know, it's your world and I'm just living in it. So it wasn't like the most shocking moment or anything like that, but it did kind of, you know, when gears are like shifting, shifting, and then they sink into place. That is what happened there where I was like, got it. I understand my role in this game now, which always the dungeon Master is. But you can't help it. When you're prepping 20 episodes, you cannot help. And someone fight me. You cannot help but try to write the plot on some level. You can't help it.

[Dan Casey]

No. But you also, I would argue you need to and probably should. So there is a skeleton. Just in case.

[Jason Nguyen]

I mean, yes, in this case we.

[Dan Casey]

Have a couple skeletons, but like, I don't know, it's up to us to put meat on them bones.

[Danielle Radford]

But like, yeah, and it does have a structure.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, you want to feel like there is that structure in place and not like you're just kind of like, open world is thrilling, but it's also crippling in that there's so much choice.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah. And there's a safety net too, you know, like if there is something where we make a wild decision and you need to course correct, you always have all of that. And while you're doing the thing where you're kind of, you know, plotting but not plotting out a season, that does mean, hey, they got to this place a little bit earlier. Maybe I can take this adventure, move it with this thing and put it in this town with this npc.

[Jason Nguyen]

Exactly. Well, the other thing is, I didn't expect for the marked Pekara to become a really important part of the story. Didn't expect that. And I will say putting a female goblin in was cool. Obviously, she took a big part. And then this last bit, I was like, yeah, we need some skeletons. And it's like, okay, we put a goblin in, the goblin character falls in love. We put some skeletons in, you make an effort. But at the end of the day, it's like, oh, fuck these skeletons. I mean, they were babies. They didn't have sentience or whatever. And you had already dismissed your entire past Busy, so it wasn't like you had this tie to the place, but it was just. I was like, oh, this is just so interesting. I was.

[Danielle Radford]

If there was an ability to be able to save them, that was something I was gonna wanna do that because I. Because when Busy came out, Busy was given the chance at, like, a second life. And the idea that they weren't gonna be able to get that or at least experience it if that was what they so chose to do. Now, unlike with me and Fibs, they still have their memories and all those other things. And because they don't have a skeleton version of them around on this plane, I think that means that it's easier for them to, like, move on and do other things. Cause they're not anchored and it's not this weird half.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, it's a good death. It's a good undeath.

[Danielle Radford]

Shame. It's a good undeath. But I did, you know, Busy did like the idea of being able to give someone, you know, a second shot at a different life. But it just wasn't.

[Jason Nguyen]

It wasn't the cards.

[Danielle Radford]

Because of Volcano. And you can't. Look, you can do whatever you can to try to baby bird someone, but you can't baby bird someone out of a volcano.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, you can try. You can try.

[Danielle Radford]

You try.

[Dan Casey]

It took a baby bird and a baby spider. We did it.

[Amy Vorpahl]

What about for you guys? What was the most shocking moments for you guys?

[Dan Casey]

I'm torn because one begat the other. I think probably without a doubt, the most shocking was the death of Tippy.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. Just. I'm a big fan of when characters die. It's one of the most brutal things to have to go through as a player and as a DM as well. But the way it was handled and the aftermath and the stories it enabled, because it could just easily be, like, a huge disappointment. You can just feel, like, cool, I blew it. And I thought, my character's over and this sucks. But the fact that we were able to not only retrieve you, but then go on this much deeper journey as a result into our characters, that, to me, was, like, so thrilling. And I have to say, apart from that, the most shocking moment, because that was just, like, pure shock factor. But the one that, like, you know, maybe when I saw the way things were turning, I could have anticipated, like, someone's gonna die. What I could never have guessed in a million years is when the amazing Ross Bryant sat down at this table and he Opened his mouth and I was like, no, you are doing, you're doing. You're me. You're fibs. You're me. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yes. What a gift that was.

[Dan Casey]

And then just how everything shook out there with the whole etheric realm and the memory palace and just sort of having to make maybe the most difficult decision. I think it was a no brainer, but it was still ultimately very difficult. And I think a real turning point potentially for the campaign because I feel like there was probably a lot more we could have easily pursued that, oh.

[Jason Nguyen]

Let'S reclaim our lives. I didn't know how it was gonna happen, but from the beginning of the campaign I was like, there's gonna need to be an opportunity for them to regain their real life. And I wanted that, I wanted that opportunity. But it was almost like from the get go, it was very clear, oh, they don't want it, they don't even want it. But the opportunity still needed to present itself. And that's why Gagongin dropped the hint and busy read the comprehend languages with asa. And it was just this moment where I was like, if they need the choice, because the choice one way or the other will I think, change the dynamic of where the story goes.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah. And I liked so much about this campaign is about like, how much does our past define us? How much do assigned roles define us? And to have that moment of, do we decide that, you know, we wanna go back and try to regain all of these things, or do we decide, hey, that was as much as our life in the dungeon and us really to become who we are. These were decisions we've all been making as we'd been out of the dungeon to figure out a life and figure out who we are. Do we want to lose that? To go back to a life and for Busy in particular to go back to a life where she sounds like she was super unhappy with it anyway. And this is an opportunity now to just say, we're leaving all of the past behind. That doesn't matter. They had their life, they had their chance. This is, this is our chance now to go forward and do something else. And also, I think it was important that our characters made that decision. To not be like, we would be more valid if we went back to being an elf, if we went back to being a dwarf, if we went back to being these more heroic archetypes and deciding instead, I'm gonna rock with what I am, because what I am now as these skellies is good enough. And we don't have to. We don't have to try to fit in and be what other people's idea of a hero is. I'm a hero as I am.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. I like that we were sort of unspoken, just, like, instantly aligned on the same page with that.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. Yeah. That surprised me, too.

[Dan Casey]

I think for fibs, it was just seeing the sort of, like, wretched, hateful creature that Phil Varrell had become.

[Jason Nguyen]

And if that was hats off to Ross Brown, it was incredible.

[Dan Casey]

He was so sweet.

[Jason Nguyen]

And that poor guy. The email I sent him, like, it.

[Dan Casey]

Was believable, too, because it's this character who's been. Just been trapped in this weird sort of stasis, in a realm beyond comprehension, just chasing an elusive memory that they can't find and just having to relive memories in a way that you can never really recapture, just like, it would be maddening. And he captured that madness beautifully in a way that was so twisted that made fibs think, if that's something. If chasing my memories leads to becoming this, then I don't want them.

[Jason Nguyen]

Fair enough.

[Dan Casey]

I'm happy with what I can remember. And what he had remembered up to that point was instructive, because he was still intrigued. But that's like, that was someone else. This is his new chapter. This is his new lease on life. And it was just exciting to make that choice. Just. It felt like the natural thing to do.

[Jason Nguyen]

But, yeah, any shocking moment for. I guess you two. Have you.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah, it was very much still that moment of that moment where Tippi died. That's obviously, like, a big, massive moment. I would also say that for those.

[Jason Nguyen]

Of you at home, what actually did happen was, like, we stopped the stream, or, I mean, we stopped recording. Cause I was like, okay, okay, what do we do? Like, what? Well, hold on, hold on just a second. I need a second. I think.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah, the drama on set that day was unreal.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. And then it was like, do we get him off of the set? Like, what's the geography of just shooting now? And does he join the tog bag? And also, like, I was just. It was so intense. Cause it's like, this is a show, you know? It's not just like, oh, it's a home game. Roll a new character. You know, it's like, hold on, hold on. This is also a show, and we're telling a story. So, like, what do I do? But also, I. I will say, like, there are many, many episodes that y'all kind of skate through, and you're kind of fine, and you're kind of Fine. And you're kind of fine. And then you make this move. Cause you feel safe because you've been fine. And it's like, yeah.

[Danielle Radford]

But unfortunately, yeah, that and the shenanigans. We kept doing that. Cause we're us, and we're gonna keep doing that.

[Amy Vorpahl]

We can't stop doing that.

[Danielle Radford]

We can't stop doing that. We can't stop. Won't die. But it was very important, I think, at some point where we did have the weight of our choices. And it wasn't just, is it like, if we're telling a story, which. And ultimately we were still putting the pieces together, but we didn't understand how big this was and how much everything was in peril again. But to be able to have a moment of, okay, these are really. These stakes are incredibly real. Like, this is fun. And we can have some cartoon hijinks. We can have the Scooby Doo type chase. Like, we can have that really fun chase that we did through Neck Breca. But there are real stakes that happen through this. And that was a moment where we really like. And for our characters, it's also. It's a good moment for them to grow up, because everyone has been confused so far about, like, why do they Even characters in the show. Like, why do they seem to always. And there were reasons for that, but why did they survive? Like, it seems like there's an extra reason why, or it might be connected to something else. And this was a moment of, yeah, but we don't. There isn't plot armor. We do have to make decisions that are smart. And it can't always just be like, well, we're just gonna mess around the whole campaign, and it's gonna be great.

[Dan Casey]

It reminded me of the feeling I felt as a child when I watched who Framed Roger Rabbit for the first time. And you see them put one of the tunes in the dip, and I'm like, oh, I thought this was gonna be a fun Looney Tunes adventure, but you're killing this cartoon in my eyes. And it's like, oh, Tippy's dead.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah, Tippi, what about. Or, Jason, what about you for a shocking moment?

[Amy Vorpahl]

The death was definitely shocking. But I think the more shocking moment for me was when you were like, you could be any animal you want. And I just said, bird, babe, you demanded.

[Jason Nguyen]

Let's be clear. You put your butt down.

[Amy Vorpahl]

That was a panic decision.

[Jason Nguyen]

And if he backed me up on it, too. Do you remember? It was like, no, man. You were so intense about it.

[Amy Vorpahl]

The secret was I could not Think of an animal that I wanted to be.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, that was the.

[Danielle Radford]

I distinctly remember. And maybe someone I'm making work for. Matt can put this in here. I believe the exact words you said were, I want to be a bird. Final answer.

[Dan Casey]

I want a bird to bite me. And that's final.

[Jason Nguyen]

That's final.

[Amy Vorpahl]

No, I mean.

[Dan Casey]

And then a man made of nothing but circles bit you.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Horrific.

[Danielle Radford]

And you were shocked.

[Jason Nguyen]

Shockingly, I couldn't believe that y'all forgot who FUG was. Fug is a very formative.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I didn't forget who Fug.

[Jason Nguyen]

A very informative person in Chippy's life.

[Amy Vorpahl]

No, the most shocking moment to me actually was like I was all the way locked in. It would have to be bizzy and fibs backstory, the reveal that they were these eternal sort of cat and mouse game. And that scene between you and Ross, I was so captivated. I was so into it, and it was shocking that they killed each other, and that's how it was over for them. And I don't know, there's something about that that I really was just like. Wait, wait, what? Wait, hold on. Their backstories isn't like this separate world where they were heroes before or even villains before. They were just these two things consumed by hate. And I thought that was really cool.

[Jason Nguyen]

Well, the one thing that I will say about planning adventures, writing adventures, being a Dungeon Master, or just writing in general. Not writing in General, but writing TTRPGs in general is you can go beyond genre. You can say, oh, it's this. Oh, it's that. It's, you know, it's a Western now. Oh, it's Eldritch horror. It's fantasy. But I. I don't think I'm alone in this. But I will fight to say that everything is a mystery. It's always a mystery. And your only job is to continue making it a mystery as the Dungeon Master. And so there were some things that we dripped out over time. A lot of things of these were decided, obviously, like deciding the pantheon was really important for the Sundari and the youthist, that she was this kind of cast out, almost coward, but maybe just made the wrong decision kind of person that. And then Yalls backstory, too, was really, really decided ahead of time. And the flashbacks were the seeds that were planted. But yeah, I will say every TTRPG game is a mystery. Every adventure, every mini scene, it's always a mystery. Like, what are you picking up? What are you finding out? Where are the red herrings? You didn't have that Many red herrings, I will say this time.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And just back to the subject of me dying. I just wanted to be clear. Like, I'm not. I don't play. Like I know I'm invincible by any means.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Like, I don't play. Like, I know I'm not gonna be able to get hurt, but I didn't know that it would be that much damage and like an insta death. Right. I thought it was like, oh, death saving rolls, you know, they'll take me prisoner. Yeah, they'll take me prisoner. Let the dice decide.

[Danielle Radford]

But it was great. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, no, we figured there would be some kind of stuff.

[Jason Nguyen]

I did all that much, too. It's. It was.

[Amy Vorpahl]

No, we both looked each other in the eyes and we were both like, let's just fact check the math real quick. And I remember us both looking up and being like, yeah, that is enough damage.

[Danielle Radford]

But that's what's great about it. Cause immediately, too.

[Jason Nguyen]

And it is a death. Like, they're not gonna capture you. They're a death cult. They love killing. And immediately, everything in the world.

[Danielle Radford]

Yeah, immediately we got to understand that. Because I do think. I think also we were like, okay, there will be ways we can sneak out of this. There will be ways that we'll be able to fix it. Immediately we were like, oh, these dudes suck. And for both us and our characters, obviously for us, we understand that at a certain point we're gonna be fighting them. But it was a real quick way for our characters to go. Look, we're still figuring out who we are, but what we do understand is that these guys gotta go. Cause immediately it's like, oh, he did one thing. And then that really gruesome, all of those things that they were doing with Kya and how just disgusting. That was, again, really genuinely very disturbing with the pointing at the people and everyone randomly dying. That was a very formative moment, I think, for our character to be like, I guess we saved the world now. Because this is awful.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And it's kind of cool because, like, we start, you know, torture for us in the beginning was like, comical, right? It was like, sorry, sorry, you're getting tortured.

[Dan Casey]

So we do an exit interview while.

[Jason Nguyen]

You'Re getting through it.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And then, like, to actually see, like, a, like, real torture go down. We were like, oh, no. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it in the background and it was bad. It was rough stuff. I feel bad for Kai.

[Danielle Radford]

No one should go like that.

[Amy Vorpahl]

No one should go like that.

[Danielle Radford]

She sucked. But no one should go like that except for what's his name, Gnomesnitch.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And for everybody at home, I just want you guys to know, like, we don't know we're safe. And you say you're on our side, but I hear every time you miss your dice, you go, dang it.

[Jason Nguyen]

And dang it.

[Amy Vorpahl]

And Q, Matt or somebody in pose, do a supercut of Amy laughing maniacally when she rolls well against us.

[Dan Casey]

Oh, my God.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Nice of a killer.

[Jason Nguyen]

No, I'm a creature of a killer.

[Danielle Radford]

I'm a creature of Avatar.

[Jason Nguyen]

Like, rolling high on my dice. I don't know. We'll find out.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I'm on your side. And you're like, the volcano tries to kill you, dang it. The people try to kill you, dang it.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, but I get to play too.

[Danielle Radford]

That's true.

[Dan Casey]

I hear playing min maxing the yester dusters to try and one shot us.

[Jason Nguyen]

No, those are very balanced, guys. As you could probably. Well, you could.

[Dan Casey]

I would argue they're not balanced, considering how often I telekinetically pushed them off a ledge.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah, very much off balance.

[Jason Nguyen]

I know, I know. Weirdly in your favor.

[Danielle Radford]

Look, I.

[Jason Nguyen]

They're saving graces. How many hit points they have.

[Danielle Radford]

But beyond that, it was so funny, and I do gotta tell you, there was something incredibly satisfying knowing that he had featherfall of pushing Crandall off that building. Oh, knowing that he would be okay. Of course. It was really.

[Jason Nguyen]

There was that decision. By the end, I was like, we're not tracking Crandall. He will be okay. And that'll be that. And that will be that.

[Dan Casey]

Just. Personally, I was very satisfied that I got to sort of bookend the campaign episode two and this with a couple of fun featherfall moments where people are like, are you just gonna let this person die? Or are you just gonna like, what's going.

[Jason Nguyen]

Oh, the deer. The deer was like, I really don't want this to happen. Like, this is gonna be a determinant. Like, literally, if Arsena, you know, had seen that, it would have been like, okay, great. Like, I don't even give a shit about this.

[Dan Casey]

Our producer and director Graham, afterwards was like, I thought you were gonna let the deer die. I was like, what's wrong with you?

[Jason Nguyen]

I know.

[Amy Vorpahl]

If I hadn't have been disarmed, I would have definitely shot at the deer or shot at Arsena for sure.

[Danielle Radford]

You were trying.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I was definitely trying. Oh, wow.

[Jason Nguyen]

Well, I will. The. The other shocking moment, or not shocking, but very, very favorite moment, was Goblin Games. And y'all making me come up with all the goblin names that will go down in history and just learning about that. And I think anyone in our audience might be able to do some very quick math on how to build a goblin name just off the top of your head and just throw some un salivating consonants and vowels together and make a goblin name.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Well, hold on, Amy, what are the rules? Because we have an irky floodgunk and then we also have a half a slice of pizza. So I'm not too sure what food is.

[Dan Casey]

I mean, look, there is precedent for food based names. I cite specifically Dug Zug Glizzy.

[Danielle Radford]

Dug Zug Glizzy. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Numby Gum Trunk.

[Amy Vorpahl]

So I'm a little unclear.

[Jason Nguyen]

Numby Gum Trunk of food.

[Dan Casey]

Unless you're talking.

[Amy Vorpahl]

I've had a mushroom.

[Jason Nguyen]

Right.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Yeah.

[Jason Nguyen]

I don't know. I feel like it's a pretty clear etymology.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, you just choose the worst possible thing to say.

[Jason Nguyen]

That's it. And just letter it.

[Danielle Radford]

That's it.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yes. Unsavory. Unsavory sounds coming out of your mouth. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. That's how we got the Fummy Crust Clan. Well, folks, on that note, that's gonna do it for us for Sagas of Sundry quests and answers. That is a wrap on Sagas of Sundry Goblin Mode season one. We thank you again for joining us on this genuinely insane adventure from everyone in the Herfla Durg family. Everyone from the Crust Monks, everyone from the Huffmanps, the Yorts, and also the Jaggers, to paraphrase Jason's inspiring speech in the finale. Yeah, thank you so much. This has been a true pleasure. Everyone here at Geek and Sundry and Legendary Digital Network, our partners at Realm as well. This has been such a pleasure to put together and hopefully we'll see more adventures of Fibs, Busy and Tippy in the future. Who knows what it holds? Someone does. And they're probably a sundari scrying on us right now. But if you want to see more, let us know. We appreciate you taking the time on this journey with us and yeah, we'll see you further on down the road. Thank you. See you next time.

[Jason Nguyen]

Bye Bye.

[Amy Vorpahl]

Bye, guys.

[Emily]

Welcome to the ultimate social deduction game, Blood on the Clock Tower.

[Danielle Radford]

The Evil team must stalk the streets at night, hunting down members of the good team one by one. Meanwhile, the Good team must outmaneuver the Evil team using their unique ability.

[Dan Casey]

I'd like to kick things off by.

[Danielle Radford]

Telling you all that I'm possibly the demon. Our players can mislead and manipulate others with absolute freedom.

[Narrator]

I didn't like hearing my name in.

[Jason Nguyen]

The same sentence as demon.

[Dan Casey]

That was very upsetting for me.

[Emily]

Emily and I will be your storytellers, guiding you through every labyrinthian twist and turn.

[Danielle Radford]

How are there so many evil fighters in this game?

[Emily]

What's happening with guests from no Rules Bar, the Pandemonium Institute and Oxventure? You won't be able to stop listening. Go to realmspod.com clocktower to find out more. Nothing is as it seems in liminal London. Hidden amongst everyday people are werewolves.

[Dan Casey]

You'll be the werewolf then.

[Jason Nguyen]

Yeah. And Megs.

[Danielle Radford]

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[Emily]

And those cursed by the fey monarchs.

[Amy Vorpahl]

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[Dan Casey]

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[Emily]

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[Jason Nguyen]

I think the queen doesn't like you very much.

[Emily]

With incredible guest players like Johnny Chiadini.

[Danielle Radford]

You say there's sludge?

[Dan Casey]

Yeah.

[Ross Bryant]

Sludge.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. I'm the sludge boy.

[Danielle Radford]

Love Sludge boy.

[Jason Nguyen]

No.

[Dan Casey]

Again, I'm not that sludge boy.

[Emily]

Grant Howard.

[Dan Casey]

Isaac Newton didn't study in f ing Putney, did he?

[Amy Vorpahl]

Who's Isaac? Oh, my God.

[Emily]

And Sharmony Bundell.

[Jason Nguyen]

There's a magic community? There is. Yay. I'm in a magic community.

[Emily]

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[Ross Bryant]

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