Reimagining Blood on the Clocktower w/ Becca Scott | Quests N’ Answers

Summary

Podcast Title: Critical Role & Sagas of Sundry
Episode Title: Reimagining Blood on the Clocktower w/ Becca Scott | Quests N’ Answers
Host: Dan Casey
Guest: Becca Scott
Release Date: April 9, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Quests N’ Answers, host Dan Casey welcomes the multifaceted gaming extraordinaire, Becca Scott, to the conversation dungeon. Becca, renowned for her roles in Dimension 20, Good Time Society, and various Geek & Sundry productions like Game the Game and Goblin Mode, delves into her extensive experience in the tabletop role-playing game (TTRPG) community.

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Becca Scott's Journey into TTRPGs

Dan and Becca kick off the discussion by reminiscing about their collaborative experience on Goblin Mode. Becca shares her inception into the TTRPG world, highlighting her first game:

Becca Scott [02:20]: "The very first one I ever played was run by Ivan Van Norman on a Twitch show at Geek and Sundry called No Survivors. Some charity or something. It was like some gumshoe detective thing."

Becca's early immersion under Ivan Van Norman's guidance set the stage for her passionate involvement in the gaming sphere.

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Philosophy on Character Creation

Becca emphasizes the importance of crafting bold and unconventional characters to propel storytelling forward. She explains her approach:

Becca Scott [03:36]: "When it comes to character creation, I always want to play something I've never played before... I can't make the boldest choice possible to move the story forward because... you need to keep the story moving from A to C at all points."

This philosophy stems from her improv background, ensuring dynamic and engaging narratives.

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Running Games: Audience vs. Home Settings

Transitioning to her role as a game master, Becca distinguishes between hosting for an audience and facilitating home games. She notes the additional layers of preparation required for public showcases:

Becca Scott [05:19]: "Going into something, I may roll the dice, see what's on the sheet, see what needs to be filled in to have a complete party that makes sense... I want to give a good show."

Becca underscores the balance between structured storytelling and allowing player agency, especially when the narrative is broadcasted to a broader audience.

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Adapting Blood on the Clocktower into a Series

A significant portion of the conversation centers on Becca's ambitious project to transform the social deduction game Blood on the Clocktower into a televised series, titled Good Time on the Clock Tower. She elaborates on the game's unique mechanics and the challenges of adapting it for visual storytelling:

Becca Scott [18:01]: "Blood on the Clocktower is the best version of that game that has ever existed... everyone on the good team or the evil team has a unique ability... there's a perfect mix of social deduction, but it has enough mechanical elements that I have never had to feel bad after this game."

Dan inquires about the logistical aspects of filming such a game, to which Becca responds by discussing their pilot episodes and the technical intricacies of capturing private conversations and maintaining continuity across episodes.

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Good Time Society and Parlor Room on Dropout

Becca also highlights her role as CEO of Good Time Society and introduces her latest endeavor, Parlor Room, a new board game show on Dropout. She shares insights into the show's development, aesthetic vision, and collaborative efforts:

Becca Scott [30:38]: "It's the same thing whether or not the cameras are rolling. You just get to not worry so much for filling that dead time... it's about ending relationships. No, just kidding."

Her passion for creating immersive and visually engaging content shines through as she describes the Victorian aesthetic inspired by Ms. Havisham and Alice in Wonderland.

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Game Recommendations and Insights

In the latter part of the episode, Becca offers a slew of game recommendations catering to various interests and group dynamics:

• Critter Kitchen: A crafting meal game with cute animal food critics.
• Decrypto: An advanced version of Codenames focusing on deciphering numerical codes.
• Fallen London: A narrative-rich game set in a surreal version of London.
• Blades in the Dark: Praised for its unique approach to storytelling and flashback mechanics.
• Dune by Modiphius: A TTRPG adaptation of the classic sci-fi series.
• Crafting the Cosmos & Marbles: Resource management games emphasizing strategic planning.

She provides detailed descriptions, enhancing listeners' understanding and enticing them to explore these titles.

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Final Thoughts and Community Engagement

Becca concludes by stressing the significance of play in both personal well-being and community building. She reflects on how her work with Good Time Society fosters a joyful and collaborative environment:

Becca Scott [16:26]: "Remembering that the world is so full of struggle, it is important to remember to engage the part of our brain that is meant to be utilized that we forget about as we get older... our childlike nature is what brings us the greatest joy."

Dan and Becca encourage listeners to engage with the community, participate in game nights, and explore the vast landscape of TTRPGs and board games.

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Conclusion

This episode of Quests N’ Answers offers a deep dive into Becca Scott's extensive experience in the gaming industry, her innovative approaches to game mastering, and her visionary projects like adapting Blood on the Clocktower for television. Whether you're a seasoned gamer or new to the TTRPG scene, Becca's insights provide valuable perspectives on storytelling, community building, and the evolving landscape of interactive entertainment.

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Notable Quotes:

• Becca Scott [03:36]: "I can't make the boldest choice possible to move the story forward because... you need to keep the story moving from A to C at all points."
• Becca Scott [18:01]: "Blood on the Clocktower is the best version of that game that has ever existed..."
• Becca Scott [16:26]: "Our childlike nature is what brings us the greatest joy and that the whole point of the world is to bring the greatest joy to the greatest number of people."

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Find More:

• Good Time Society: goodtimesociety.com
• Parlor Room on Dropout: Available on Dropout’s streaming platform
• Good Time on the Clock Tower: Ongoing Kickstarter campaign details available through Good Time Society’s official channels

Join the conversation, explore new games, and immerse yourself in the magical realms of storytelling and play with Becca Scott and the Good Time Society community.

Transcript

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[Dan Casey]

Greetings, adventurers, and welcome back to Quests and Answers, the show where we talk to all manner of awesome people from around the gaming world. I'm Dan Casey and today we have a very special guest joining me here in the Conversation Dungeon. Now, you may have seen her gracing screens and dropout shows like Dimension 20. Or actually, you may have seen her curating endlessly amazing gaming experiences on Goodtime Society. And you may have even seen her right here on Geek and Sundry in everything from Game the Game to Goblin Mode and beyond, just to name a few of her many credits. Folks, you love her. I love her. It's Becca Scott. Becca, thank you so much for joining us today.

[Becca Scott]

Thank you so much for having me. It is such a pleasure to get to talk to you.

[Dan Casey]

Yes, I was thrilled that we got to play together recently on Goblin Mode and you know, and I watched you.

[Becca Scott]

Masterfully solve puzzles with your copious notes.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, the one time taking notes has paid off for me, it's. I'm usually not the person that takes notes in a group, but that was a testament to why it pays to occasionally write things down.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, absolutely. It was very impressive. You got to the root of the puzzle Amy had had crafted.

[Dan Casey]

Yes.

[Becca Scott]

She was so surprised. I think she cried.

[Dan Casey]

She did. She did. Anytime you can make your DM cry, that's a victory for the player that's gonna take it back one day at a time. But. So this was the first time I got to play a TTRPG with you. But I'm curious because you are a staple in my mind in so many actual plays in gaming. But when was your first experience? When did you first get into the world of pen and paper role playing games?

[Becca Scott]

The very first one I ever played was run by Ivan Van Norman on a Twitch show at Geek and Sundry called no survivors.

[Dan Casey]

Amazing.

[Becca Scott]

Some charity or something. It was like some gumshoe detective thing. And I wore a crazy hat and made crazy decisions, as is my hallmark in any game. Why would you play if you can't upset everyone at the table with your crazy choices that you insist are in character?

[Dan Casey]

As long as your character believes it and you believe it, it's canon. Do you remember what your earliest character was? Do you remember, apart from the crazy hat?

[Becca Scott]

Some gumshoe. That's all I recall. But yeah, yeah. And then tbdrpg, which was formerly Weave Society, was when I really felt like I got my chops. Just playing a bunch of one shots and running games for a fantastic group of women that are my ride or dies to this day.

[Dan Casey]

Amazing. Well, I want to talk about running games in a moment, but I'm still, you know, talking about characters a little bit. You mentioned that tendency towards being an agent of chaos. What is your philosophy when it comes to character creation?

[Becca Scott]

When it comes to character creation, I always want to play something I've never played before, but at the same time, I can't play a meek and timid character. I can't not make the boldest choice possible to move the story forward because, as I believe you do, I come from an improv background, and you're not allowed to rehash anything. You're not allowed to dwell on anything too long. You need to keep the story moving from A to C at all points. And so my character choices stem from that. What is something super bizarre that I'm gonna have to try and justify. And that's my little character game for me the whole time.

[Dan Casey]

You gotta keep yourself invested as well. I respect that. I feel like you and I are similar in that I abhor a vacuum. If there's kind of an uncomfortable space or it feels like something's about to happen, I feel the need to fill it and just keep the energy up or keep things moving. I think that's also, you know, you are also someone who's a very accomplished live events host, and that is definitely a skill that is very necessary there a tendency to be able to vamp whenever necessary. But fill it with bits. Exactly. Fill it with bits. Or light some dynamite and see how this moves things forward.

[Becca Scott]

Yes. Which I believe Jason actually did in the game I sat in on.

[Dan Casey]

Yes. Somehow managed to jury rig it. So you gave him dynamite canonically. So thank you for your contribution there. I'm curious, though, do you, when it comes to, like, making a character for either a home game or a game that's going to be produced for a larger audience. Do you find yourself being someone who kind of waits to see what the party needs, or do you have a clear idea of exactly who you want to play?

[Becca Scott]

Going into something, I may roll the dice, see what's on the sheet, see what needs to be filled in to have a complete party that makes sense, that has the yinit to the yang, that everybody can have their. Their heel or their opposite number in the party. Because so rarely do I play off screen ttrpgs and I want to give a good show. And so it's definitely a different way of playing than a home game in that sense. But then you end up something unique because you're just filling in the spot.

[Dan Casey]

No, I told. I mean, I totally get that as well, especially in so much of what you do in your day to day is taken up with, you know, creating content in this medium for an audience that I imagine doesn't leave a lot of time for a home game on top of everything else.

[Becca Scott]

You understand? Yes, that one. That's the one. That's the biggest one. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Maybe in a few years we'll see. But in the meantime, it's a challenge that is certainly kicking my ass in terms of fitting in. There's no succinct home game that you can play in. No one plays 30 minutes of D.

[Becca Scott]

And D. If only they did. Now, the Gathering, on the other hand. Sorry, different topic, different podcasts.

[Dan Casey]

No, no, no. It's all welcome here. The Gathering played an integral role in sort of the fantasy pilling of young Dan. I saw the. I saw the magic. The Gathering cards in the store, drawn in by the artwork on them, discovered a whole game there, and then just sort of created a slippery slope down the world of TCG, CCGs, D&D, you name it, and here we are today.

[Becca Scott]

Any acronym with some dragons on it?

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. If there's winged creatures, worms, wyverns, et cetera, I'm in. But I want to talk to you about. It's an interesting sort of push and pull because a lot of people maybe watching or listening at home. Think about this from the perspective of, okay, I'm creating something for a home game. How does your mindset shift when you're creating something that's intended to be put forth in front of an audience?

[Becca Scott]

I would say if I were to play a home game, I would still have the same objective, which is create maximum fun for the other people sitting at the table with me because they're an audience as well. And so as long as you're giving gifts to the group, then I think, I think backwards engineering to have a really fun time at your home game is thinking about what would work well in this performance type of setting, because you are choosing to perform together. I mean, it's. It's the same thing whether or not the cameras are rolling. You just get to not worry so much for filling that dead time, as we both love to do when someone's doing the math of their role.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. I think that's. That's a very good point. I mean, I always think of sitting down and playing an RPG as a form of communal storytelling. It's like very much like sitting around the campfire of old, but they've added some dice to randomize things a little bit. This. Choose your own adventure book. We're telling together. So you are. You are performing. Even if you're not performing for an audience, the audience is you and your friends.

[Becca Scott]

Exactly.

[Dan Casey]

But on the. On the flip side of things, you know, you mentioned that you've run a number of games. Now, do you remember what the first session you ever ran was and what your biggest takeaway was from that?

[Becca Scott]

Gosh, my biggest takeaway was sheer terror and panic. The first game I ever ran was a haunted summer camp that I made my own. One sheet, one shot that was like, pick your stat for your camp character. You could do this or this or this. And I made a map. And Camp Creepwood. No, that's a game camp. Maybe it was just Camp Lakewood, which was the name of the YMCA camp that I went to as a child.

[Dan Casey]

Incredible.

[Becca Scott]

But yeah, it was a TTO TBDRPG episode, so it exists somewhere in the archives of Twitch.

[Dan Casey]

Yes, in the deep in the annals of the Internet, the.

[Becca Scott]

Wherever you're watching this, it could be here someday.

[Dan Casey]

Yes. Look. Look at the window right beneath this. And it might even be right there. I'm curious though. What's your, you know, how has your approach to sort of running games and world building evolved since you first started running them?

[Becca Scott]

I wish I could say there was less panic. I'd say I've realized I need less preparation. And yet every single time I over prepare. The most recent campaign I ran was called Sorority. It was Call of Cthulhu, and I put it on a podcast feed. So please look wherever you get podcasts for Sorority. I just recently released it, but I don't know how to start a new thing. And so it's just kind of out there in the world. And it was about a haunted house, and I had three Brilliant performers Christina, Gina and Serena, the Inas. And basically, I prepped each session based on what they did in the last session. I knew a rough layout of this house, but it was a haunted house, so obviously all of the rooms can move. If you're not in it, it's probably moving somewhere. And as it progressed, I just had a rough. Here are the kinds of characters they were gonna find in the house. Here is the overall moral that I want them to learn. Like, what am I trying to say with the campaign? And it's most often, f the patriarchy. Can I curse?

[Dan Casey]

Yes, you certainly may.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. Well, F the patriarchy. There. I said it was. Excuse me. I said it was an emphasis.

[Dan Casey]

This is my duty as an ally.

[Becca Scott]

Good, good, good, good, good. But, yeah, I think trusting players to fill in a full portion of the story, if you have three players, then a full quarter of it is going to be each of them. You don't have to do as much work.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. I mean, and look, you can railroad people to a certain degree and sort of try to get them from, like, point A to point C, but what happens at B is going to be almost entirely up to them because, again, it is this, like, mutual act of sharing and telling a story together. If you just wanted to tell your own story, then you would make a short film or you would write a book, or you could even write a module if you want to keep it in the context of an rpg. But that's. I think that's the element of excitement that keeps me invested, keeps me coming back to both actual play and home games as well.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. And no matter how much you want people to fight your npc, they are going to try to romance it.

[Dan Casey]

Yes.

[Becca Scott]

They just will. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

And depending on how that romance goes, they may still fight anyway. Who knows? Well, the DM for certain. I'm curious, what was your experience like creating something for a purely audio medium versus something that has that visual component as well? Did you find that there were different considerations that went into it?

[Becca Scott]

There are definitely a lot less considerations. A set being one and how I look and the faces I make being another. Because I chose to try just an audio medium so I would get to release some of that pressure for sure, is always an additional stressor or thing that you need to think about. If I could just put it all into one method for people to intake this story, then maybe I can really drill down on how to tell that story, just to make it simpler for me.

[Dan Casey]

No, I appreciate it. It's quite literally theater of the mind in that respect. And look, I love miniatures, but sometimes it's just nice to go on that audio journey as well. I'm curious. When it comes to running games, either for a home game occasionally or when you're putting together projects, do you have homebrew rules or a favorite like Home Rule that you like to employ in a campaign?

[Unknown]

Gosh.

[Becca Scott]

Home rule. The rule of fun. My not having fun.

[Dan Casey]

Get out.

[Becca Scott]

Get out. Just leave. No. If someone wants to do something that they are very inventive with the way they want to handle a situation, it absolutely makes no sense for the mechanics of that system. But it's cool. Then they should get to roll for that thing. Now they may have to roll a natural 20.

[Dan Casey]

Of course.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. Or a crit of whatever die value is appropriate. But always give them that chance. Give them that hope.

[Dan Casey]

At this point, I feel like natural 20 is becoming almost diagnostic. It's just synonymous with something going very. If it doesn't have that many sides.

[Becca Scott]

So that's.

[Dan Casey]

That's my. That's my hot geometric take. Come at me, mathematicians.

[Becca Scott]

You know what? I'm having a Nat20 kind of day baby.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. And I don't even have a single die on me. Not one for people out there who are maybe considering starting their first campaign or prepping to run their first adventure. Or maybe you just want to shake things up in an existing game. Do you have a piece of advice you would give to people that are trying to approach things from a fresh perspective?

[Becca Scott]

Be an active listener. As you said, a railroaded game is always going to be derailed by your players. Or at least they will do their best to try. And they're not going to have fun if you make them get on the pirate ship when they really wanted to stay in the market for another three days. Just let them do what they want to do. You'll find a way to put the story points that you thought were fun in there eventually. Or they'll say, is this what you wanted us to do? Should we do what you wanted us to do? Eventually. Just let them get there on their own time.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. And look, every. Every campaign needs a good shopping episode. It's like an anime when there would be the random like summer trip to the beach episode. You just need to have that in there.

[Becca Scott]

You gotta. The Bottle episode. And Breaking Bad. Where's Catching a Fly.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. We've been.

[Becca Scott]

It's the same. That's like shopping.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. Our attention spans have been crushed and diminished by binge culture. We only expect eight episodes of a show Every five years now we deserve so much more, but I want to shift gears a little bit. It's sort of. I mean, look, there's a through line here, folks, I promise. Because, Becca, you're not just a fantastic performer and storyteller, but you're also, as some people may know, the CEO of an amazing company for fans of gaming and quality storytelling. Good Time Society.

[Becca Scott]

We have a whole fricking building. Yes. That is children's gymnastics foam that we have put on the wall as sound dampening.

[Dan Casey]

That is some innovation right there. That's amazing.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Matt.

[Dan Casey]

Yes, Shout out to Matt. Indeed. I feel like now more than ever, sort of, we've talked about this a bit with sort of like the act of coming together to play a ttrpg. But now more than ever, it feels really essential to make time to sit down and play. Just the act of play feels something that really can't be overvalued. So I'm curious for you, from your perspective, what does the act of play mean to you and how has that sense of it evolved at all as you folks have built the team and community around Good Time Society?

[Becca Scott]

Oh, wow. I feel like every day we come into work and we're here to play if people. I've never not had a fun day at work and I hope that's true for everybody else who either freelances or is full time here because we have this great opportunity to create our dream workplace in this miraculous world that we get to live in, you included, where we just get to play games for work sometimes. And yeah, remembering that and remembering that. Remembering that, like the world is so full of struggle that it is important to remember to engage the part of our brain that is meant to be utilized that we forget about as we get, you know, older and try and function like a real adult. I think that's overrated. And I think we need to remember that our childlike nature is what brings us the greatest joy and that the whole point of the world is bring the greatest joy to the greatest number number of people. That's what I believe.

[Dan Casey]

That's amazing. And I think that you folks are certainly doing that through Good Time Society. And I'm very excited as well because you're about to be bringing a different type of joy to people through what I think is a very exciting project. Yes, the best kind of joy. Murder's most foul murder joy. You folks recently launched your first Kickstarter for a project called Good Time on the Clock Tower, which from my perspective, is a Very different kind of actual play series utilizing the game Blood on the Clock Tower. But for the uninitiated, what can you tell us about this project?

[Becca Scott]

I imagine everybody has played some version of Werewolf or Mafia or one of those games where there's a day phase and a night phase, and in the night phase somebody chooses who dies. And in the day phase you try to figure out who the bad guy is. This is the best version of that game that has ever existed and in my opinion, ever could. It is created by the Pandemonium Institute, which is in Australia, and they're absolutely amazing folks. And what is great about this game is someone played a game of Werewolf and then died very early and was so frustrated by that experience that he said, you know what? I'm going to make one where you still get to play when you die. So that is the big differentiator of this game. Everybody on the good team or the evil team has a unique ability and gets to use it to varying degrees of success. But there's always a puzzle to be solved. If you're on the evil team, your job is to protect the demon. And maybe you're just a minion and maybe your life is expend in service of your demon surviving and you throw yourself on that sword. Honestly, being a minion is maybe my favorite thing besides storytelling for the game because there's always a godlike DM like storyteller. And then all of the good characters have this amazing mind bending puzzle of taking the information that good characters get and sussing out who's evil based on that. But the twist is good players could be poisoned or they could be drunk, or they could be lied to by evil players. And in any of those cases they would get wrong information. And so it's this perfect mix of social deduction, but it has enough mechanical elements that I have never had to feel bad after this game. I mean, sometimes you're bummed you didn't win, but never do you turn to your partner and say, you lied to me. I'll never forgive you. As has definitely happened to me in other social deduction games. Or, or I've done to other said to other people.

[Dan Casey]

You know, we, we all have, we all have that one friend who takes a betrayal in a game like this a little too personally. And hopefully they can remind themselves that, look, it wasn't you, it was the demon talking.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, absolutely. I don't know, something about Blood on the Clock Tower, it just never goes down that way because you're just, you're just Piecing together the puzzle. You're just all committing fully. And if they hadn't lied to you, would they even care?

[Dan Casey]

I, I, I appreciate that game of Social Deduction, and I love the possibility for intrigue and chaos that it creates. And it certainly seems like that's the case with the sheer variety of roles and mechanics and everything that they've included in Blood on the Clock Tower. Now I'm curious, tell me a bit about how you folks are going to translate this game into a series in good time on the Clock Tower.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, so there's two pilot episodes we already put on our YouTube to say, look, this is fun, right? What if it was a million times better because it had a budget? And so they are amazing cast and I'm pretty proud of the edit that we did. But, like, in terms of what we can do visually, I think there's so much more to be done and we just moved into this new, bigger space that I was showing off on a minute ago, so we will have a lot more room to work with. So I can create that moody shadows in the background. I want to really create an immersive space where you feel like you are actually in Ravenswood Bluff, or at least the characters you're watching are. And there's something so fun and juicy about watching this game played, but it's very difficult to film because it's best played with 11 to 15 players or more if you have travelers in your game. And so it's not something that anybody with a channel can feasibly do. And we've got a lot of really talented people here in la. We've got access to a lot of, in front of and behind camera talent. And so I just want to do it, number one, because it's my new favorite game. And number two, because I think there's not that many people that can do this that well.

[Dan Casey]

You're, you're right. I mean, especially from like, that amount of people. I don't. Anyone who doesn't have a production background may not appreciate the sheer volume of trying to get 11 to 15 people on camera in a way where it feels like they all have meaningful screen time and will fit into what are the majority of production spaces without costing an arm and a leg. But I'm curious, from a gameplay or mechanical perspective, are there any challenges in adapting this for something that flows like a series?

[Becca Scott]

Would you mean like continuity between episodes.

[Dan Casey]

Or either continuity between episodes or are there mechanics in the game that need to be perhaps tweaked or modified in order to better facilitate something that's being filmed.

[Becca Scott]

The great part about this game is that there need to be no changes in the night phase. Everything is done silently through sort of pantomiming from the storyteller talking to the players when their eyes are open, and everybody else can be talking about something else. What I did in our pilots is I added voiceover to just describe what I'm doing, because it is an extremely complicated game, and I still want to keep it accessible to people who maybe are watching episode number five having never seen the game before. And that's the trick, because the first time you play, you're like, what just happened? My brain hurts. How does anybody figure out anything in this game? Everyone's drunk and poisoned all the time. And then the second time you're like, oh, I get it, and I'm gonna master this. At least if you're me, that's what you say. And so the difficulty is really in capturing the private conversations, which in a home game, anybody can get up and talk to anybody, and they're all doing it simultaneously, and you can see who's talking to who. And in ours, sometimes you can capture the town square, as it's called. But getting every one of those private conversations and finding the ways to piece them together when they were all happening simultaneously is a whole other fun puzzle in its own right.

[Dan Casey]

See, I'm imagining. I don't know if you watch the Traitors, the reality show, but I'm imagining, but I should.

[Becca Scott]

It's the same.

[Dan Casey]

Yes, it's another example of Mafia or werewolf, except there's nothing they can do when they die. It is worth your time if you're a purveyor of trash television. Also, Alan Cumming can do no wrong, but I always love that it's just people walking to different rooms in this Clue mansion to have their private conversations. So I'm very excited to see how you folks execute that. How do you think that a show like this aligns with people that maybe watch or listen to a lot of actual play? TTRPG content. What sort of. What are some differences and what do you think people can expect?

[Becca Scott]

I think it's different in that a TTRPG is storytelling without necessarily an end goal. Sure, there's a boss battle, but the goal is developing characters and developing relationships. And in this, it's about ending relationships. No, just kidding. In this, there is the defined goal of kill the demon or kill the town. So in that sense, it's a lot more targeted and more mechanical, but in a different way. You get to role play as much or as little as you're comfortable with and still be a full contributor to the game. And so we'll see if we add in some special episodes in our series that are very thematic or whether costuming adds to that. But the tricky part is you can't actually tell people what your real character is most of the time. That could get you killed or that could out you as the demon or worse.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, I guess being out as the demon would be worse than just being straight up killed. Yeah. Just derails everything. Now, I appreciate that you folks are going through the avenue of Kickstarter for this. Do you have any advice for people who are maybe pursuing an independent publishing model like this and maybe exploring using something like Kickstarter? What's been your experience so far as you're getting this project off the ground? I know obviously the campaign is still active, so it may be too soon to have this level of sort of like 2020 hindsight. But I'm just curious what the experience has been so far in terms of people that might be preparing to embark on their first independent publishing journey.

[Becca Scott]

Hire an expert. Laser Weber is an incredible Kickstarter manager and friend. He's in one of our pilot episodes and has run like Rekha Shankar's film Kickstarter that just finished and Izzy Rowland's short film and has run a bunch for himself, just did a queer trans festival called the Joy who Lived that's going on this month in that. So he gave me full confidence that we would at least get to our original goals and that I knew the steps and I knew how to promote it and I knew kind of what are, what are the things that people who have done this understand, because there's no worse feeling than putting yourself out there and then having the first go not work. But the great thing about Kickstarter is that if it doesn't fund, then you could always mount it again later, try again and learn things they're doing.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah. But I think as well, that's a really good point about sort of trying to set yourself up for success by partnering with people that have been down this road before or tapping into your community. You know, finding people with this expertise because it. While it's accessible to everyone, it is still. There's still so many best practices, so many challenges. You know, I've seen people make certain mistakes before where it's. They promise far too many rewards, for example, and then just are buried alive for the next year and a half just trying to ship all of them out. It's a real, it's a real like push and pull between creating that value for people and also just trying to find people willing to invest in something very cool and say, I believe in this project and I want to see it brought to life. But I'm very excited that so far people have been saying that with a resounding yes to good time on the good time on the clock tower. And I'm excited to see where it goes from here.

[Becca Scott]

Thank you so much.

[Dan Casey]

Of course. So I want to talk as well. You are someone who has been playing board games online for a minute. From GNS to Good Time Society to some news that broke recently. Very exciting about your one woman quest to play board games with seemingly every cool person on the planet, beginning with a brand new show called Parlor Room on Dropout. So tell us a bit about that. How did this project come about?

[Becca Scott]

Oh man, I have been pitching this for years. I have been lucky enough to be a regular guest on some other Dropout shows and truly, if they were ever going to do a board game show, I would feel utterly betrayed if they didn't let me host it. So I'm really glad that things worked out the way that they did. But I put together a pitch document, I presented it and it just kind of was the right time, right place. Plus, it's, it's not. Aside from the talent, it's not extremely expensive. In the world of Dropout, shows have become rather impressive. And when you make a show as good as Game Changer, you have to continue upping your season finale each season. Whereas just playing games with some friends sitting around a table can be easily duplicated. So I think that was a good selling point. I actually got to be an executive producer on the project, so I had a big hand in pitching my dream version of the set. And then our production designer, Taylor did such an incredible job taking what was in my brain and making it real and things like the name, the name was I had a big hand in and like the color palette and all of that. So it just felt really magical to take what I have been doing for a freaking decade, which is started at Geek and Sundry now here at Goodtime Society, just making videos about board games and then what does that look like? Elevated to the degree. And I just feel so much joy that I was given this opportunity to do it and to work with such genuinely funny people on this, on this season that I'm so proud of.

[Dan Casey]

That's amazing. I love that you were also getting the executive Producer and getting to really craft this from the ground up, because you can tell that. You can tell that your hand was in this. I'm curious what. What was on your sort of vision board for the aesthetic of the show? Because to me, I was like, watching the trailer, I'm like, this feels like, in a good way, Ms. Havisham's house before all of the decay and cake.

[Becca Scott]

Yes, Ms. Havisham. Okay, I'm not a fan of AI art, obviously, but if I'm trying to communicate with the person paying to make art, what is in my brain for her to create? I typed in Ms. Havisham, Alice in Wonderland, Melting parlor room, and. Oh, and jewel tones. Jewel tones is very important. Yeah. I just love a warm jewel tone and all that kind of soup of those words all thrown into this, like, kind of Victorian aesthetic that I'm a huge fan of. Just find it delightfully creepy, even though it's not a scary show at all. But a lot of my favorite board games have to do with creepy themes. So, like, why not have a little of that sprinkled in there as well? And, yeah, I threw all that spaghetti. The production designer and she made something beautiful out of it.

[Dan Casey]

That's amazing. Well, it looks great. They did a fantastic job. I'm very excited to see the end result. I also really love the premise of this, which, if I'm not mistaken, involves your guests bringing a game that they want to play.

[Becca Scott]

Yes. And also, it's a collaborative effort.

[Dan Casey]

Okay. I mean, look, I imagine I do. I'm cognizant of the fact there's a level of production that has to go on behind the scenes as well. Are there any games that were vetoed? Or did someone be like, hey, I want to bring Mousetrap. Can we really. Can we get this to happen?

[Becca Scott]

Oh, we're never playing Mousetrap, baby. I would say not everyone has a vast knowledge of every game in the wide pantheon of board games. And we were aiming for things that are very camera friendly, specifically, especially for this first season. Fingers crossed that there are more seasons to add more games. So we stuck with. With the classics that everyone knows, like the Taboo, some dice games, Balderdash, and sort of, like, presented some things that we thought would be good to the people that we thought would be really fun, you know, main guests, quote unquote, and just kind of let them choose. But, like, Rekha, huge fan of Taboo. Her family always played. This is, like, their game. And Sephi wanted to run a ttrpg. I was like, with this Cast that we're thinking of thirsty sword lesbians. Come on. So we kind of helped pair people with the game we thought was right and then had to do the fun thing of like, well, who are. We asked everybody what people they would like to play with, and then we had to say, like, well, they're already in one or two other episodes, so you gotta give me more names. And. And we got to such an amazing group. The dynamic and chemistry between each group and each episode is so distinct and so special, and I'm so proud of each and every episode as its own beautiful little flower that I really can't wait for the show to start rolling out.

[Dan Casey]

That's awesome. I also love hearing that about Rekha and her family. Really enjoying Taboo. Our family enjoyed Taboo as well, but we were more of like, Scrabble was the game I think that would ultimately, like, tear. Tear people apart in the Casey household.

[Becca Scott]

I'm curious, did you utilize the two letter words?

[Dan Casey]

Yes, but not. Not to, like, the upsetting degree that I think stuff like words with friends enabled, where people now just have that, like, short list of two letter words they can use.

[Becca Scott]

Oh, you didn't have that memorized?

[Dan Casey]

No, no, I. I certainly didn't back in the day.

[Becca Scott]

No. It's on the back page of the Scrabble rule book, so. Sorry to keep interrupting. I just.

[Dan Casey]

Please. Our version didn't have it. Our version didn't have the rulebook. We had, like, this really busted, old, like, hand me down edition, which there were no rules in there. It was just maybe my parents lied to me about how it's actually played. I've been playing the wrong way the whole time. You know, there's a secret quadruple word score if you really want it bad enough.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. If you want it bad enough. Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

You just got to want it bad enough. Was there. Was there a game in your household growing up that, like, is there, like, the game that you all played?

[Becca Scott]

We played a lot of, I hate to say Monopoly. I actually got very into Scrabble in college. It was my drink beers on a Saturday night and play Scrabble activity. Like, I played so much Scrabble before I knew how many games were out there. And it was the first game that I became very intensely obsessed with and was like, are there competitions? Should I look into this? Before I even had any idea that I might have a career having to do with gaming, I was in acting school and I was like, but Scrabble, though? Yeah.

[Dan Casey]

Well, look, I love games like Scrabble. I love Word games because they keep your mind sharp. It's just you're flexing that muscle in a different way. And it's also something that's applicable to other, other games as well, or it's just honing strategy in a different capacity. So I think that Scrabble is definitely. It can be very competitive. I've. I've seen some clips of people at these Scrabble world championships and I'm definitely not on their level, that they're just operating on a whole different mindset, playing five dimensional chess that I cannot compete with.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, yeah, totally. There is one game. So we played very basic games. We played Clue. We played. Sorry, we played Monopoly. We played. But there was a game called Alibi that was like kind of a twist on Clue that I had to find. It's out of print and I had to find a copy because, like my uncle had it and we would play it on certain holidays. And that was one that I was like, there's something that I really need to know. There's one called Lie, Cheat and Steal. We played a good amount and board games always did get heated in the Scott household as well. So I can relate.

[Dan Casey]

Were you an only child? Do you have siblings?

[Becca Scott]

I have two siblings.

[Dan Casey]

Okay. Very competitive relationship with them in terms of playing games.

[Becca Scott]

One who is like a ranked Go player.

[Dan Casey]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she organized like the. She was on the international board of Go for a long time. Finally stepped down because she was doing too much work on it. So she and I are the ones that really need to both be the one to explain the game when it comes to playing a new game that need to really get pedantic about the rules. But I love her dearly, so yes, I'll make that sacrifice.

[Dan Casey]

It's good to have at least one friend or one person who is going to be pedantic about the rules because someone needs to know how things work. Someone needs to keep the trains running on time. It's your inner producer coming out and it's just something that needs to happen.

[Becca Scott]

Keep the ticket to ride running on time.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. Because otherwise this train's never going to leave the station or tracks will get built. So I want to shift gears a little bit as we head into the final phase of our conversation. I want to get some recommendations from you for our listeners and viewers out there. So we started by talking about TTRPGs. I'm curious, is there. Do you have a favorite TTRPG that you think people are maybe sleeping on or doesn't get enough Love or as much shine as some of the others in the world that you wish more people would sit down and give a try.

[Becca Scott]

Shout out to thirsty sword lesbians. Which we're going to play in the first season of Parlor Room. Call of Cthulhu has been my game ever since I discovered it. Blades in the Dark is so good. Yeah, it's just approaches it in a different way. I love the very novel kind of like flashback scenes you can do. I recently played a game called Fallen London. Oh gosh. Am I saying the name correctly?

[Dan Casey]

Yes.

[Becca Scott]

No.

[Dan Casey]

Fallen London. That's correct.

[Becca Scott]

And yeah, from Magpie Games. And it was skit that baby was so much fun. Fallen London was so much fun because I love this idea of like London into the pit of hell and now there's just a bunch of weirdos walking around the streets. Everybody's Jack the Ripper here and everybody's kind of undead. But like, it's cool. We're just gonna go about our regular lives. Yeah, there's so many good ones out there and there's new ones all the time. So if you've got an idea for one. Oh, one more I have to say, is Modiphius put out Dune, which is powered by the Apocalypse. Yes. Is it powered by the Apocalypse system?

[Dan Casey]

I believe so.

[Becca Scott]

Ye, yeah. 2d twenties. I really like that system. And I was lucky enough to get to do a 10 episode series a few years ago with Glass Cannon that, you know, it's probably deep in their channels at this point, but it was a real delight with some wonderful people. And anytime I get to play with Ross Bryant, I'm in heaven, so.

[Dan Casey]

Oh yes, yes. He's always a delight to get to play with. But for that game in particular, I was really impressed at how they were able to translate a lot of these sort of like political intrigue and kind of wheeling and dealing into concrete mechanics. So if you're a fan of Dune, if you're a certified dunatic, definitely check it out. I think it might be up your alley, but everything you mentioned is definitely worth checking out at your local game store. But speaking of your local game store, Becca, I have a hypothetical for you. It's game night. You've been tasked with choosing any game you want to bring. What is your choice and why?

[Becca Scott]

Okay, how many players and what is the least gamery? Who is the least gamery person at this table? Because that's who. Who I'm trying to set the bar for.

[Dan Casey]

That's okay. This is, say this is a perfect vacuum of the exact Number of players for a specific game you've been jonesing to play with a group of people.

[Becca Scott]

Okay. I just got my copy of a Kickstarter game called Critter Kitchen where you are crafting meals for a cute animal food critic. And it's a long game over the course of seven rounds where you're kind of secretly selecting the order in which you. You want to grab different ingredients from different locations before you make your meal for this food critic. And there's kind of like the secret selection of you deciding which location you're going to. And everybody reveals at the same time. And if you're playing your little Small Chef, then they get there first, but they can carry less stuff. And if you play your really big Chef to go there, they're going to be the last one. So they're not going to have as many ingredients left to pick from, but they can carry more. And so then you got to craft your meal out of that and try to score the most points. It's really cute. Decrypto is always a recommendation that I have for any game night. You can play with any number of people. If you've ever played codenames, I would say it's super advanced, high octane codenames.

[Dan Casey]

Is this the one where you're trying to guess, like four numbers to unlock something? Am I okay?

[Becca Scott]

Yes.

[Dan Casey]

I played this recently.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. Each team can view their team's four words, and the clue giver, who changes each turn, picks up a little floppy disk that has a series of three numbers on it that are 1, 2, 3, or 4 in a different order. And you're trying to get your team to guess the order based on your clues. But you want to not reveal too much information because the opposing team, their goal is to intercept your code. You are giving to your own team about the words that you all see. So if your round one clues are too similar to your round two clues, then they're gonna piece together that. I don't know. They said ging and they said ants. And so I know their word is picnic. So you gotta keep. You gotta keep going further and further outside the box as the rounds go on to keep eluding the opposing team.

[Dan Casey]

Until you get too esoteric, which definitely happened to a friend of ours. We were like, I don't know where you were going with this, but we cannot follow you there.

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. You end up failing your own team because you tried to go so far and they are not coming with you.

[Dan Casey]

Exactly. You loop back around, right. To start back with your. But Those are fantastic suggestions, Jacrypto. And also you said Critter Kitchen.

[Becca Scott]

Critter Kitchen.

[Dan Casey]

Oh gosh.

[Becca Scott]

What else have I played recently? Just today I played a game called Crafting the Cosmos. And I'll just shout it out because it's top of mind. It is a very finicky, fiddly little game about each player has their board that has these little pieces that fit in perfectly where you're recruiting hydrogen and carbon and oxygen and helium to try and make planets. And each turn you get to kind of do a little resource management and each person's kind of building their own thing entirely. It's irrelevant whether or not other people are playing this game, but it's very. If you love fiddly little bits in your games. There's also marbles. There's marbles, yeah. It's resources based on marbles. But something if anyone's ever played Settlers of Catan. If you don't roll a good number on the dice, you don't get any resources in crafting the content. You get resources every single turn based on where the marbles are sitting. And the marbles are always somewhere.

[Dan Casey]

The marble especially once they're out of the box, the marbles are always somewhere the marbles will.

[Becca Scott]

Unless they go into that void where socks go behind the dragon.

[Dan Casey]

But yeah, yes, then you lose your marbles trying to find them.

[Becca Scott]

Ah, okay, I have one more.

[Dan Casey]

One more, please, please.

[Becca Scott]

This is a card game that I recently brought on vacation and was a hit with the folks. It is called, called Skull King. It's a trick taking game and it doesn't go out. It's like hearts or spades or something like that. Like if someone can learn how to play that game, they can learn how to play this game. But it's got pirates, it's got mermaids and it's got a skull king and they're all sexy. So what's not to love?

[Dan Casey]

That's everything I look for in a family game, right?

[Becca Scott]

Yeah. Sexy mermaids.

[Dan Casey]

Yeah, yeah, why not? That's great. These are fantastic suggestions. Thank you so much. Becca, thank you so much for joining us today. I really appreciate you taking the time. Where can people find you on the world wide web?

[Becca Scott]

Oh, Dan, thank you so much for having me. It was such a pleasure. Everyone can find me at goodtimesociety. Just the one time Goodtime Society. Anywhere that you can type things into the Internet.

[Dan Casey]

Amazing. And we will put some links in the description below to make it easier for you to find those more readily. You can find me trapped inside your devices as well each and every week on Geek and Sundry or Nerdist, wherever fine podcast and videos are served. But folks, thank you so much for joining us. In the meantime though, tell us, what games are you playing this week? What are you most excited to introduce to your table? Let us know in the comments. Have a great rest of your day and we'll see you next time. Bye Bye.

[Becca Scott]

Goodbye.

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