Tale Gate | Episode 2 | Discussing Up To C4E18

Summary

Critical Role: Tale Gate – Episode 2 | Discussing Up To C4E18

Date: March 24, 2026
Host: Whitney Moore
Cast: Ashley Johnson, Matt Mercer, Aabria Iyengar, Matt Colville

---

Episode Overview

This episode of Tale Gate, Critical Role's Campaign 4 talkback show, gathers the cast after the conclusion of the Seekers’ first major arc. Host Whitney Moore leads the group—including Ashley Johnson, Matt Mercer, Aabria Iyengar, and Matt Colville—in a lively, candid discussion covering character dynamics, unexpected relationships, emotional highlights, and the evolving lore, with memorable detours and plenty of laughs.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Unexpected Alliances & Evolving Relationships

[02:53]

• Whitney prompts the group about surprising character relationships.
• Matt Mercer (Octus): Highlights his growing closeness with Velis, emphasizing their initial neutrality and how late-night meditation sessions became a “secret rendezvous.”
  • “I liked that sort of… very sweet kind of little moments at night when everybody else was sleeping. Kind of like a secret rendezvous that no one was supposed to know about.” ([03:21], Matt Mercer)
• Whitney jokes about a problematic age gap; the cast riff on immortality and the folly of shipping “immortal” couples.
  • “We're both effectively immortal. It doesn't matter.” ([04:01], Matt Mercer)

[04:25]

• Ashley Johnson (Tysha): Discusses her dynamic with Octus and the transformation of preexisting strong relationships—finding common ‘bird ground’ and transforming negative established dynamics.
• Much laughter as they tease each other about Ashley’s discomfort with confrontation compared to their characters’ openness.

---

2. Memorable Encounters & Family Drama

[06:21]

• Whitney asks the group to recount the dramatic encounter with her character’s sisters—how the villains turned out to be less effective due to dice rolls, leading to Scooby Doo-esque confusion and humor.
  • “It was so Scooby Doo…” ([07:15], Aabria Iyengar)

---

3. Trust Issues Within the Party

[07:31]

• Ashley: On Velis’ distrust, especially of Erinessa, but generally of everyone: “She doesn't trust people. Trust no bitch... Something's too good about her. We've never seen all of her face.”
  • “I don't trust anyone whose face I have.” ([09:23], Ashley Johnson)

---

4. Homebrew Subclasses & Player Choices

[09:52]

• Matt Colville: Breaks down the homebrew “Daredevil” subclass, designed for high-risk, high-reward play. Features include extra power when bloodied, “riding the threshold,” and optional special attacks at the cost of increased vulnerability.
  • “When I succeed spectacularly, it's awesome. When I fail spectacularly, it's awesome.” ([10:08], Matt Colville)
  • Feature Highlight: “Whenever he's under 50% hit points... [Second Wind] gives him temporary hit points... can burn more Second Winds for other things.”
  • The team jokes about changing feature names due to innuendo (“edging”).

---

5. Circle of Ancients, Lore, and Big Reveals

[13:01]

• Ashley: Tysha’s potential fallout with the Circle of Ancients, and her defiance of druidic conventions for the sake of family.
  • “She loves her order, she doesn’t actually feel that beholden to those structures. Like, she’s gonna follow her in her.” ([14:24], Ashley Johnson)

[15:07]

• Ashley on Favorite Lore: Expresses being often “lost in the sauce” as a player surrounded by multiple DMs, but in awe of the storytelling at the table.

[17:31]

• Matt Colville: Finding out the true, grim purpose of the ritual that killed Octus, and grappling with whether to use forbidden magic.

---

6. Emotional Impact: Fighting Family & Loss

[19:18]

• Matt Mercer (on fighting mutated family): Recalls the emotional weight of battling what his character could have become, and his family’s coldness.
  • “[Realizing] my family saw them as a mistake and just left them there...” ([20:08], Matt Mercer)
  • Taking the mutated head, wrestling with the trauma and responsibility.

---

7. Standout NPCs and Fan Community Art

[27:11]

• Each cast member picks favorite NPCs: Dr. Talter, Dame Sarah Mai, Otto Einfassen, and the “dogs.” Lots of appreciation for Brennan’s unique characterization and the dogs’ magical fairytale vibe.
• [30:05] Noteworthy Notables:
  Highlights fan art and cosplay:
  • “Do you realize how cool of a character you built?” ([30:36], Matt Colville to Ashley)
  • Gushing over community creativity and their own photoshoots.

---

8. House Einfausen & Sundered Houses Politics

[34:31]

• Discussion on approaching House Einfausen:
  Negotiating after intense events, learning violence isn’t the best opener, and reflecting on privilege and trust within (and between) the houses.
  • “[Julian] is a cushy boy with a low wisdom.” ([36:35], Matt Colville)

---

9. Emotional Vulnerability, Grief, & Growth

[37:37]

• Aabria/Ashley: On Velis coming to terms with expressing her goal of resurrecting her goddess and how emotionally risky it feels to open up to the party.
• Bath scene: Used as a character moment: showing scars instead of talking about trauma.

[43:47]

• Matt Colville (on Julian’s grief):
  “They both want so bad to reconcile and before they had the chance, to have that robbed is gut-wrenching.” ([45:12], Matt Colville)

[47:34]

• Matt Mercer (on Octus’ emotions after death):
  “Nothing happens automatically anymore in his body… he has to intellectualize emotions to actually get the emotions to trigger...”
  Reflections on playing undeath with all its emotional and physical complications.

---

10. The Party’s Unraveling Tensions

[61:33]

• The arc was “one loud conversation away from everybody unraveling and screaming at each other. Everyone was just right on the edge of holding it together the entire time, which led to this underlying energy that was simmering.” ([61:33], Matt Colville)

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Nothing is promised and you guys are building these relationships as they come.” ([05:15], Whitney Moore)
• “To be alive is to be open and reactive to change.” ([41:00], Ashley Johnson)
• “You can't pick your family, but you can kick them off a cliff.” ([61:02], Matt Colville)

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:53] – Discussion of party alliances and relationship surprises
• [09:52] – Breakdown of “Daredevil” subclass and fighter mechanics
• [13:01] – Tysha’s standing with the Circle of Ancients
• [17:31] – Revelations about Octus’s ritual and family secrets
• [19:18] – Emotional fallout from fighting the family and mutated kin
• [27:11] – Favorite and standout NPCs from the arc
• [30:05] – Noteworthy fan art and community contributions
• [34:31] – Navigating the politics and vibe shift in House Einfausen
• [37:37] – Emotional vulnerability, the cost of opening up, and player growth
• [43:47] – Exploring Julian’s family grief
• [47:34] – Octus’ unique experience with emotions after death
• [61:33] – Party tension and emotional near-meltdown

---

Memorable & Funny Moments

• Ongoing jokes about homebrew features being named “edge/edging.”
• Laughter about the party fighting NPCs that ended up being duds due to dice.
• Extended riffing about trust and friendship being hard—“Trust no bitch!” ([08:47], Aabria Iyengar)
• Discussions about “elf titty,” baths, and party trauma.
• Gross-out stories about “dead” body mechanics and octus puking.
• Odes to community artists, cosplayers, and the magical “dogs.”
• “You can’t pick your family, but you can kick them off a cliff.” ([61:02], Matt Colville)

---

Conclusion

This episode is a mosaic of heartfelt insight, comedic banter, and meta-reflection. The cast dives deep into their characters’ emotional journeys, the ever-shifting alliances within the party, and the rich lore seeded by their DM. They also celebrate the Critter community's creativity and look forward to the next arc, all while embracing vulnerability, humor, and the unpredictable nature of collaborative storytelling.

---

For more in-depth moments and questions, Beacon members can catch the extended “Nightcap” aftershow.

Transcript

[Metro Advertiser]

Oh joy. Another day another buzz delayed.

[Metro Customer]

Look on the bright side, you can finally catch up on podcasts.

[Metro Advertiser]

You don't mind running late. What's your deal?

[Metro Customer]

What's my deal? I saved at Metro with no activation fees. I got one line of 5G for just $25 a month.

[Whitney Moore]

Kept the phone I love and a

[Metro Customer]

5 year price guarantee for my talk text and data.

[Metro Advertiser]

Only $25. I'm going to Metro when we hop off.

[Whitney Moore]

Get that more for your money feeling only a Metro by T Mobile.

[Ashley Johnson]

Just bring your number. $30 first month and $25 after with

[Whitney Moore]

autopay price guarantee exceptions.

[Ashley Johnson]

Apply CSI for details.

[Rosetta Stone Advertiser]

There are countless reasons to learn a new language. Whether you have an upcoming trip planned or you simply want to learn a new skill. Rosetta Stone breaks down your new language into bite sized pieces and focuses on speaking practice for real conversations. Rosetta Stone's True Accent feature even helps you perfect your pronunciation. I mean pronunciation. Visit RosettaStone.com today. Rosetta Stone How Languages Learned Tyler Redick

[Tyler Redick / Chumba Casino Advertiser]

and Chumba Casino A Winning Combination Another checkered flag for Tyler Redick in 23xi racing this time at COTA in the Chumba Casino Toyota Camry. That's three wins this season. Talk about a lucky streak. Chumba Casino Proud partner of Tyler Redick in 23xi Racing play for free at chumbacasino.com let's Chumba no purchase necessary. VGW Group Voidware prohibited by law. CTC's 21 plus sponsored by Chumba Casino

[Whitney Moore]

why hello there distinguished Campaign 4 listeners. Welcome to Tailgate, our new talkback show hosted by me, Whitney Moore. In this series, we'll sit down with the cast after each tale arc and spill the tea together on all things Campaign four. Plus, if you're a Beacon member, the soiree will continue with the Nightcap, a Beacon exclusive segment where we answer your questions from the Discord Chat. Each Tailgate episode is streamed live on BeaconDOP TV, YouTube and Twitch and will arrive here on the Critical Role Podcast Network one week later. So if you ever want to join in on the live fun, check us out on one of those platforms. Alright, without further ado, let's get this Tailgate started. Good evening everyone and welcome back to Tailgate. I'm your host Whitney Moore and tonight we are seeking some answers from the Seekers table as they have just wrapped up their first arc on Campaign 4. Yeah, we have a lot of ground to cover, feelings to process. Octus has had his cousin's mutated angel head in a bag.

[Aabria Iyengar]

It's a whole thing.

[Whitney Moore]

Let's open that gates. Let's kick it off with a Lore Keeper. Question shall go before all unexpected alliances begin by. I feel like I'm just about to quiz you. The temperature changed.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Oh, my God.

[Whitney Moore]

Energy question for me. Unexpected alliances began to form for the Seekers.

[Matt Mercer]

Who.

[Whitney Moore]

Who do you feel your character grew closer to during this adventure? Ooh, who wants to start?

[Matt Mercer]

Ooh, I don't know. Sure. Fucking.

[Whitney Moore]

We're all just here.

[Matt Mercer]

I think I grew.

[Ashley Johnson]

We all decided to.

[Matt Mercer]

I think I grew the closest to Velis over. Well, because we started at neutral.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

And we started at, like, a deficit. Yeah. So it was like there was a lot of ground to cover there. But I think they grew closer through this whole thing. I mean, teaching me to meditate was very sweet because I was gonna go crazy if I didn't. And, you know, I need my spell slots back, so that's important. But yeah, I really like. I liked that sort of. You know, we had these very sweet kind of little moments at night when everybody else was sleeping. Kind of like a secret rendezvous that no one was supposed to know about.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, secret lovers. That's a problematic age gap relationship.

[Ashley Johnson]

If I'm wrong.

[Aabria Iyengar]

It really kind of is.

[Ashley Johnson]

You're bad for shipping.

[Matt Mercer]

We're both effectively immortal. It doesn't matter.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's true. I think it matters. See, this is what's wrong with Twilight.

[Whitney Moore]

Does anyone else.

[Matt Mercer]

You know what's not wrong with Twilight, though, is vampire baseball. Yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes.

[Whitney Moore]

This is a show where we were talking about Twilight, and I don't know what you think this is. Anybody else have some unexpected relationships blossom that they weren't intending to happen?

[Ashley Johnson]

I mean, I think Tysha's wasn't that it was unintended, like the sort of not souring, but transformation of Tysha and Octos relationship was a thing that we talked about just being dynamic with a previously established, like, strong relationship with a pre.

[Matt Mercer]

Existing condition.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah. Your preexisting condition being alive, which was wildly reversed. I think it's both Vaylis and Julian is. I think the fun thing that, like with Veylis, those were both deeply negative relationships when we all met in the overture. And then finding different. Like, it's fun to find a reason to get along with people. So finding like our common bird ground. Brendan kept shooting birds into us. Bird ground. Figure it out. If I put birds into you and then those birds go into you.

[Whitney Moore]

Bond. I like what you said, Aabria, about how you earned the friendship. Because you guys squabble a lot and Just as a reminder, everybody here likes each other. Squabble like. Like a bird would almost. And I love. I love that sentiment of like, it's. Nothing is promised and you guys are building these relationships as they come.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I love it. I feel like. I feel like we. Like, we've kind of talked about this too. Where I am, Ashley, very, like, deeply uncomfortable with confrontation. So I'm always like. When there's. People are like, I know. So, yeah. So this character, I'm like, wait, how do I just, like, just. Just say stuff like, how are you just okay with not thinking about everything that you're saying and how it's going to affect people or just not care, rather. I don't know. I'm still figuring it out.

[Ashley Johnson]

Crushing it.

[Matt Mercer]

You're doing great. I definitely. I have the panic afterwards where I'll say stuff, a bunch of stuff, and then I'll be like, what the fuck?

[Ashley Johnson]

Did I say yes.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, I wanna make things about me for a minute. Cause you guys fought my sisters and I wanna hear all about what that was like. I was watching Gagged and gooped. I was like, well, because also they're so. Brennan made them so scary. And then the dice was like, actually, no, they're huge losers.

[Ashley Johnson]

What was that?

[Matt Colville]

Like, scary in quotes? Like stat block scary maybe. But I think the rest of it just even gave more understanding of who tyranny is and where that family comes from to like a. Oh, they're all like this.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah. It was so funny. Cause like, having watched soldier stuff as it was going on, I knew you had been impersonating Octus, but Octus didn't know. So the whole thing of them coming in and thinking I'm you or I'm Wick and you were Tyranny and just being like, what are you talking about? Like, it was just.

[Aabria Iyengar]

You're like, who? It's so Scooby Doo. It was very Scooby Doo.

[Matt Mercer]

I didn't meet you except to yell at you once and then like, Wick I knew as like a. From Noble Houses, but I was like, what do you mean? Why would I be them? Like, it was just so silly.

[Aabria Iyengar]

So good.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, I want to bounce around because I've got a lot of questions for all of you, but let's get to. Ooh, Ashley, pour moi. Where does vaelys distrust of erinessa stem from?

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah, Dig deep.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I. I think

[Ashley Johnson]

there was a hair.

[Matt Mercer]

Don't pay attention to me. There was a hair on my pants.

[Aabria Iyengar]

What is happening over here?

[Matt Colville]

This man must be Hairness at all times.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I feel like it's not just Erinessa. I feel like she just doesn't really know how to trust anybody. And I think

[Whitney Moore]

I know.

[Ashley Johnson]

I keep.

[Matt Colville]

I'm fine with you.

[Ashley Johnson]

I didn't want to touch all of this.

[Aabria Iyengar]

You can't need. So sorry. We just need to get our wiggles out.

[Matt Colville]

This was sticking up out of the couch, and it was a lot longer than I thought it would be. I didn't know what to do once I did it.

[Matt Mercer]

I know.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I was doing it too, and I was like, wait.

[Whitney Moore]

This is actually really fun. This is all very carefully engineered tea leaves.

[Aabria Iyengar]

It's gorgeous.

[Matt Mercer]

We are answering no questions. No questions.

[Matt Colville]

Sorry, Ashley, I rudely interrupted your intention.

[Aabria Iyengar]

No, it's totally fine. It's so unbelievably relatable because I was already wanting to play with it. Like I said, we just gotta get our stuff out.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I don't think Bayless really trusts. No, I know she doesn't. She doesn't trust people. Trust no bitch. And I think it. Well, I think it takes her a lot to trust people because everybody, she's like, what's your. What's your deal? So I think it's not just Aaronessa. I think it's so many people. I was feeling it about everybody here for sure, but, you know, had wonderful moments with everybody where it's like figuring out who these people are. But Aranessa, something's too good about her. Something's too good about her. We've never seen all of her face.

[Ashley Johnson]

I don't trust anyone whose face I have.

[Whitney Moore]

Are you gonna take that bang off and give somebody a little smooch, Huh?

[Aabria Iyengar]

I don't know. I don't know. And why can't he. I might never take it off.

[Ashley Johnson]

Whoa.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I don't know.

[Whitney Moore]

Whoa.

[Aabria Iyengar]

We'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But got one for both sides.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah. Yes. All right, well, I wanna jam through this question. So, Matt, tell us about the dare. What?

[Matt Mercer]

I wanna get these out of the way. I got stuff to do.

[Whitney Moore]

It's St. Patrick's learn that. I knew that. Yes, I knew that. Wherever you are, Matt, tell us about the Daredevil subclass. What aspects of his homebrew appealed to you for Julian? And what are some interesting fiat shows?

[Matt Colville]

We're still developing it as it goes on, but, like, the concept behind it was wanting to create a fighter subclass that was based in high risk, high reward mechanics. Julian in particular, is very much kind of that rush headfirst into danger and sometimes it works out really great, others really poorly. And that to me is a very fun dynamic with dice based role playing games in general. And just wanted to lean more into that. Like, safety is fun, but I like, when I. When I succeed spectacularly, it's awesome. When I fail spectacularly, it's awesome. And just wanted to kind of build something that leans into that. That and you know, also make my other players at the table be like, why are you doing that? No, why would you do that? I'm like, because it's fun.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

I mean, you haven't gotten to be at a table really with Sam. So somebody's got to pick up the mantle in his honor to be like, hey, what the fuck? Hey, what?

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

Why you do that? Yeah, like some of the level three features that he got. One is we call it like riding the threshold, where when he's what?

[Ashley Johnson]

Change it back to edge.

[Matt Colville]

No, we're not writing Change it back. No, we can't do writing the threshold.

[Ashley Johnson]

I like edging.

[Matt Colville]

It was originally titled Writing the Edge, but we realized that would just.

[Whitney Moore]

We all instantly murder.

[Matt Colville]

I have a history of being shamed for not thinking about things out loud first, so I decided to change it right in the threshold. But yeah, so to where. And I guess I work with this, with Chris and Jeremy to build this homebrew. And so part of it is whenever he's under 50% hit points, whenever he's more or less bloodied, his second wind feature gives him temporary hit points as opposed to hit points.

[Whitney Moore]

That's so good.

[Matt Colville]

But the benefit of that is whenever he is bloodied, more or less, he can spend his hit dice instead of second wind features to use it. I love that.

[Ashley Johnson]

God, I love that.

[Matt Colville]

So I can't heal himself up to full necessarily, but he can burn more second winds for other things that he can use. So for instance, if I want to use second winds for some of the other fighter features, or in this instance, the thing called daring strikes, which is you can spend a second wind or can try and make a daring strike. If he rolls to hit and it succeeds, I can spend a second wind to do an additional D10 damage on the attack, which is fun.

[Matt Mercer]

Whoa.

[Matt Colville]

If I miss the attack, next attack against me has advantage. So it's like, how fun?

[Whitney Moore]

Very much. I mean, it suits Julian so much. Cause he has such a liability that he'd make these crazy choices and have these great strokes of luck and also punish everyone. Yep, Very cool.

[Matt Colville]

That's how I like to do it.

[Matt Mercer]

Liability. But he's the best at what he does.

[Matt Colville]

And chat. Don't you dare try and bully me into making it. Riding the edge again.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah, do it.

[Matt Colville]

It'll all still be edging in our hearts.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, I'm on the world with excitement about Aabria's CR question.

[Aabria Iyengar]

The segue.

[Ashley Johnson]

What a perfect segue.

[Whitney Moore]

How does Taisha feel being on the possible outs with the Circle of Ancients? Is she worried about being ousted or does she feel they'll understand her perspective?

[Ashley Johnson]

I think for Taisha, the idea of having a level 20 plus or not level, but 20 wisdom, druid fight means that everyone's going to approach the argument with like, sort of open heart and like trying to take things in best faith. So you can have your presuppositions, but, like, there's an assumption that there will be like it. It will be like you'll be heard and listened to. So I think Tyche is kind of sitting in the position where either her circle will listen to her or she will continue to do what she does and not like, ride the Circle of Ancients as like, the reason that she does it. I mean, from the very first, her first act of Druidic magic is to pull her son back from the veil of death. Like, so she's already always been flirting with the edge of what it means to be a Druid and respect the balance of life and death. You're not her first son. That she's been like, no, no, no dead for you. He's still good. He's still good. It's fine.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Five second rule.

[Ashley Johnson]

It's fine.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

Five second rule. If you catch him on the first bound, though, yeah, you were a little farther down the path, but like, again, it's like seven second rule.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

Like, if I can get him on the first bounce, he's not fully dead yet. It's fine. So I think as much as she loves her order, she doesn't actually feel that beholden to those structures. Like, she's gonna follow her in her.

[Whitney Moore]

She's not for a one baby, 100%. And she should. The sauce she loves. Well, actually, would she eat steak?

[Ashley Johnson]

Because she's not that kind of druid. She loves metal and steak.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

Great.

[Ashley Johnson]

Let's go.

[Whitney Moore]

A1 Steak Sauce.

[Matt Colville]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Today's sponsor, A1 Steak Sauce.

[Matt Colville]

Sponsor level 10, she said, I think.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

Circle of the condiments.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, Circle of the condiments.

[Ashley Johnson]

I'm gonna make my own Druid circle and it'll be full of ketchup.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That'd be my Druid circle.

[Whitney Moore]

This question is for everyone, but I'm gonna direct it to Ashley first. The seeker's goal was to find information. What piece of lore from these sessions has intrigued you most as a player?

[Ashley Johnson]

You know?

[Aabria Iyengar]

God, there's just so much that I love. I will say. There were so many moments at the table. I know this is totally. I'm gonna answer the question, but I'm gonna take a little road trip. There were so many moments at the table when I was sitting there, and I was, like, looking around, and I'm like, man, Brendan, so smart, so great. I feel like playing with Matt has been amazing. And Aabria and Alex. Oh, these are all DMs. Okay. Oh, I feel like I don't know what's going on. There was so much that I talked about where everybody would be like this, like, picking up on each other, and I was just pinwheeling, and I'm like, mm, mm. Got it. Got it. I totally know what's going on. And I told Matt the other day. I was like, I feel like I'm, like, running on Windows 98. And everybody's, like, so much further along. I'm like, I'm gonna get there. I just, like, give me a second. But

[Ashley Johnson]

I respect that.

[Aabria Iyengar]

What was. Now I forgot what the question was.

[Whitney Moore]

Your favorite piece of lore. Yes, my favorite piece of lore. That is so validating. Cause also, same. I also feel like sometimes I'm just watching the game and I'm like, I was supposed to be listening to that.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yes.

[Whitney Moore]

I was just watching voices happen.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That happens all the time.

[Ashley Johnson]

All the time. It's my favorite thing to be like, yeah, shit. I also go here. Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

Yes.

[Whitney Moore]

Yes.

[Aabria Iyengar]

But it's also, like, playing with all of you. It's so beautiful to watch. Like, it's so. It is. Like, I was at the table with, like, some of the best of the best. And just, like, how you all. So how, like, Alex. And Alex was there, too, and.

[Whitney Moore]

No, but just, like.

[Aabria Iyengar]

But the way that they all were, like, how you guys can talk and shit, you know, like, just so what?

[Whitney Moore]

Like, put it on a short. I love it.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes. I love it.

[Whitney Moore]

Any other lore drops that are something that you were really excited and happy to see? Good job.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Thank you.

[Ashley Johnson]

1. You all are also a DM.

[Matt Colville]

Figuring out the purpose of that entire ritual that killed Octys and realizing how heinous the intended result was going to be.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, that was a big deal.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Nasty business.

[Matt Colville]

We can still do it, by the way. There's probably some Cool abilities it would give you.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, we're on a sunset Octis.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, let's try after this show.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, yeah, let's do it in the corner.

[Matt Colville]

Just text Brendan. Hey, man. Just letting you know we kind of did a little side game here and we did it bad.

[Whitney Moore]

It didn't work.

[Matt Colville]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

Actively changes your story.

[Ashley Johnson]

I was so convinced when we were walking through Tenassar that we were going to. We were completing it. And now part of me is like,

[Whitney Moore]

shit, what if we. What if we.

[Ashley Johnson]

We should have maybe like a little bit to be like, well, maybe he's our evil angel? I don't know.

[Aabria Iyengar]

But we can fix it.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, I didn't. Cause I don't know either. Like, this was not part of my backstory. This is a Brennan thing. So, like, I'm like, I don't know what's happening either as much as any of you do. Like, so it was just. It was wild to go through all of the pieces of that and to use the Kim and Im Kadaz on the rock. I can say it on the rock. To get the information and see Tansul and all that stuff was incredible. And then going into all that whole area and going through and seeing the ritual and thinking maybe they burned my heart. It's just like, it's a whole thing. There were so many. It was a little. I felt so focused on what had happened in the first couple of episodes with me that I was like, this feels a lot about me and you can focus on other people too.

[Whitney Moore]

I told Alex this over the weekend when we were at dc, which ruled

[Matt Mercer]

that put us at a point in time. Now we can't just be nebulous now.

[Whitney Moore]

That's true.

[Matt Colville]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

This is live. It is.

[Whitney Moore]

At a point in time, I was

[Matt Colville]

like, what are you talking about?

[Whitney Moore]

When I was literally right now on the Internet. Octis is a load bearing character. There's a lot that happens lore wise. And I actually have this next on my question. So, Alex, we'll keep talking about it. What was it like fighting a version of what Octis was to become and understand more about what his family meant to do to him.

[Matt Mercer]

I mean, I love that fight so much. It was so much fun. And the fact that both of you went down on towers stressed me the fuck out.

[Matt Colville]

Oh, my God. You were fine.

[Matt Mercer]

It was me fine. But. But it was such a beautiful thing to. Beautiful and very sad way of just seeing this person who so believed in what my family is doing and then being kind of turned into this monster and force and realizing then or that my family saw them as a mistake and just left them there.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

To be that's the crazy thing in this basement is just be like, oh, we messed up. Well, we'll just close the door. Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

We'll just do a shelf there to

[Matt Mercer]

then finally defeat her and then for her, you know, her head to still be alive for a little while and then ask me if she did a good job essentially. That was so sad.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That was sad.

[Matt Mercer]

And it was just, ugh. And then I took the head with me. And I have that now.

[Whitney Moore]

And you have that.

[Ashley Johnson]

Gross.

[Whitney Moore]

And you have that now.

[Matt Mercer]

I have that now.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I will say Tanasar was so cool just going over the bridge and the visual of it.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

All the eternal night was really, really fun.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes. Yes.

[Matt Mercer]

And the fact that no item any of us had that refreshed on a sunrise worked anymore.

[HelloFresh Advertiser]

This episode is brought to you by HelloFresh. You know, sometimes in this mad, mad world, I crave real food, not the quick stuff that's out there. Nothing hits like home cooking. And hellofresh makes it easy to do more of it this year with recipes that feel good and taste delicious night after night. A couple of weeks ago, I used their recipe and ingredients to make an incredible salad and the best burgers that I have ever cooked. With hellofresh, you can bring everyone together with meals that are simple and rewarding, even on a busy weeknight. Choosing from more than 100 recipes every week. Cuisines from around the world, meals that help you beat those winter blues. Because when dinner tastes this good, nothing hits like home cooking. Go to hellofresh.com criticalrole10fm to get 10 free meals plus a free Zwilling knife. A $144.99 value on your third box offer valid while supplies last. Free meals applied as discount on first box. New subscribers only. Varies by plan.

[Metro Advertiser]

With the Venmo debit card, a taco in one hand and ordering a ride in the other means you're stacking your rewards. Nice. Get up to 5% cash back with Venmo stash on your favorite brands. When you pay with your Venmo debit card from takeout to ride shares, entertainment and more, pick a bundle with your go tos and start earning cash back at those brands. Venmo Stash Bundle terms it exclusions apply. See terms at Venmo Me stash terms max $100 cash back per month. Oh joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

[Metro Customer]

Look on the bright side. You can finally catch up on podcasts

[Metro Advertiser]

you don't mind running late. What's your deal?

[Metro Customer]

What's my deal? I saved at Metro with no activation fees. I got one line of 5G for just $25 a month.

[Whitney Moore]

Kept the phone I love and a

[Metro Customer]

5 year price guarantee for my talk text and data.

[Metro Advertiser]

Only $25. I'm going to Metro when we hop

[Whitney Moore]

off get that more for your money Feeling only a Metro by T mobile

[Ashley Johnson]

Just bring your number. $30 first month and $25 after with autopay price guarantee exceptions apply CSI for details.

[Rosetta Stone Advertiser]

There are countless reasons to learn a new language. Whether you have an upcoming trip planned or you simply want to learn a new skill. Rosetta Stone breaks down your new language into bite sized pieces and focuses on speaking practice for real conversations. Rosetta Stone's True Accent feature even helps you perfect your pronunciation. I mean pronunciation. Visit RosettaStone.com today. Rosetta Stone How Languages Learned well, speaking

[Whitney Moore]

of family drama, Matt, how did it feel for Julian to get revenge on his first Daconis?

[Aabria Iyengar]

Franz.

[Matt Colville]

Franz had it coming. Look, look, I know you were supposedly like the least hopeful Taconus, but Franz, Franz, bar none. Worst Taconus sucked. Worst Taconus? You got the wrong end of that stick from the family.

[Matt Mercer]

I was like, wait, does he have powers?

[Matt Colville]

He might have. He didn't have a chance to use it.

[Matt Mercer]

He didn't have a chance to use it. You both just got. Just started shoving each other.

[Matt Colville]

Yeah, it was very like Night of the Rocks barrier.

[Matt Mercer]

But it's like, what? What, what?

[Matt Colville]

Until one of us fell into it.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, three of us are like fighting demons and you're just like slamming into the sky.

[Matt Colville]

Look, I got a goal. No, it felt good. It felt good in my head. I think legitimately, Julian is like keeping notches for each one. Like he's keeping nachos in his belt for each one that he kills. And then when they're all dead, he'll eat them.

[Whitney Moore]

He'll finally have a little snack that does.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Honestly.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah. Delayed gratification feels correct.

[Matt Colville]

Same thing. Riding the threshold.

[Whitney Moore]

This is just gonna become exactly what you wanted it not to become. Because now I'm gonna be thinking about thresholds.

[Matt Colville]

Welcome to my life here at Critical Role.

[Aabria Iyengar]

True.

[Whitney Moore]

I love it. Aabria.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

How is Tycha not knowing where we were? Talking about octys as Tysha's son. But you have another son. Algae.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Wow, we are really getting into it. How's it going?

[Whitney Moore]

How's she feeling about that?

[Ashley Johnson]

We are the Seekers. And thus far, we have found exactly none of the stuff that we saw And I think that's a reflection on us. I mean, yeah, obviously it's like, it's devastating to not get the visual confirmation that he's okay, but at the end of the day, Alagar's 27 years old and has made the same choices that Tyche has made in her life to willingly put himself into danger for the world's sake. So at some point, as a good parent, you were saying, back to the choices your kid made. She was freaking out because it was a prophetically bad moment that he was in. But if he's just going back to, like, drink a castle torch and like, occasionally swash some buckles, yeah, go for it.

[Whitney Moore]

I loved that moment with Julian of like, what's my. What's my son up to? Yeah. Did you.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That was funny. Did you phone my son?

[Whitney Moore]

What a sight.

[Ashley Johnson]

Checked you and it didn't.

[Matt Colville]

That has no comment.

[Ashley Johnson]

The God that lives behind Julian's eyes says nothing.

[Whitney Moore]

Ashley, what was it like to bond with the Stone of Night song and use it to speak with the dead? So cool.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That was crazy. I mean, just the 80s.

[Whitney Moore]

That was crazy. That's it.

[Aabria Iyengar]

No, that was. I. I mean, none of nothing in the game am I expecting at all, you know, and I think I. There was. There was another purpose that I thought that that was going to be for, and the fact that I was able to sort of attune with it and then speak with dead. And then I was like, I want to make this such a cool moment. But it was just everything. Yeah, that was a really cool moment. That was a really, really cool moment. And it felt really special and. Yeah, it was beautiful.

[Whitney Moore]

I think I'm gonna ask the voice of God if we have time for one more question before we move on,

[Aabria Iyengar]

because we got a lot.

[Whitney Moore]

Okay, great. I am gonna ask a question for everybody before we move on because you guys have interacted with some very fun NPCs, and I am so curious. We've had erinessa hanan hanan. Dr. Talter, which is. I don't know. For some reason that name is so funny to me and Dame Sarah Mai, do you guys have a favorite MP PC that you all have. Have rolled with?

[Matt Mercer]

I mean, comedically. I love Dr. Talter.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Me too.

[Matt Mercer]

But I really like Dame Sarah.

[Matt Colville]

Maya, did we catch Dr. Talter's first name?

[Ashley Johnson]

Amrie Amory. Sorry, we were rewriting it. Jezebel. That's a family name.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah. No, I love Dame Sarah Mai. I just. I find it was just such a kind of sadly sweet relationship to being like, oh, you got fired and you don't know why, and you're just like, oh, my whole life is ruined. I guess I'll come with you to the Dark Relatable. Yeah. To be her last act, to be, like, trying to save my life and then getting absolutely bodied by a celestial thing was terrible.

[Matt Colville]

That was rough.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes. God, I.

[Whitney Moore]

Dad cursing.

[Metro Customer]

That's my favorite.

[Ashley Johnson]

I love him. Every now and then, Brennan will just do the little thing of, like, a little guy, and I'm like, yeah. Yes, please.

[Whitney Moore]

Thank you. Thank you, Papa.

[Ashley Johnson]

A little guy with a crazy voice. Why, yes, I'll have another.

[Whitney Moore]

Otto.

[Matt Colville]

Otto is my pick.

[Whitney Moore]

Otto's very cool.

[Matt Colville]

Otto Einfassen.

[Ashley Johnson]

This plume is no longer suitable for this conversation. Yeah, you made salsa, bruh.

[Matt Colville]

So terrifying. But also, like, want to get a beer with him?

[Whitney Moore]

Yes. He's.

[Matt Colville]

I don't know if I should do that. He's. I don't know. I lost the thread of what I was going to say because I was like, yeah, he's cool.

[Ashley Johnson]

Like, under the sort of fantasy world that we live in, like, in the real world, I do not want to hang out with this actual murderer.

[Matt Colville]

No.

[Ashley Johnson]

In the fantasy context that we live in, he's going to be such a chill dude to drink with. And if he turns on you, you're not going to be around long enough to know that things have gone boraling. You're like, oh, no. And then it's over.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

So you're fine.

[Matt Mercer]

In hindsight, though, I do realize that my impression of a Neinfausen was horribly off.

[Ashley Johnson]

No.

[Aabria Iyengar]

There's so many numbers at the training.

[Matt Colville]

No.

[Matt Mercer]

Because, like, I had no idea they had German accents when I did mine. And so I was. I was just like, oh, I chose wrong.

[Whitney Moore]

That feels in character for octus.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I love Dr. Talter because I love when Brennan does characters where they just, like, there's no filter. It just, like, just word vomit comes out. And then they realize it in the moment and he's like, maybe I shouldn't have said that. And then. I love Dr. Talter, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna jump back to the soldiers. Okay. Really upset that I haven't been able to hang out with any of these dogs.

[Ashley Johnson]

Dogs.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, my God, we got dogs.

[Ashley Johnson]

I went with dogs.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I was watching it and I was

[Ashley Johnson]

like, what the fuck? Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Truly felt like a fairy tale delight story. I forgot we were in danger. It was just like, dogs.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Dogs.

[Whitney Moore]

These knights. Knights of the Helm of the King. All right, enough about my table. Before we go any further, we need to pause for a moment because it is time for noteworthy notables where we celebrate the brilliant works of those within the critter community.

[Ashley Johnson]

Woo hoo. Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

We have four incredible pieces to get through tonight, so let's get into it. Our first noteworthy notable is from Karissy Carson at Chrissycarson Art. Let's see it.

[Matt Colville]

Ooh, I want to see it. To see.

[Matt Mercer]

Are we going to.

[Ashley Johnson]

Give me, give me, give me, give

[Aabria Iyengar]

me, give me, give me.

[Matt Mercer]

Oh, there it is.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Oh.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That pizza.

[Matt Mercer]

So awesome.

[Whitney Moore]

I remember seeing this one. Insane.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Get it?

[Matt Mercer]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Let me see.

[Whitney Moore]

It's so cool. The perspective, right?

[Matt Colville]

Love it.

[Ashley Johnson]

Do you, Ashley, do you realize how cool of a character you built? Like, I remember sitting in our character Jen when you were talking about. You're like, I want her to like swing this sensor. And I just remember being like, fuck yeah,

[Aabria Iyengar]

this looks so weird.

[Whitney Moore]

They're gonna smell like their last scent. I always use that one.

[Ashley Johnson]

I'm like a pillow over my. Cause I'm like, I just.

[Whitney Moore]

It's just comfortable that way.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah, I don't need the back support.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Thanks. Okay, we gotta keep going.

[Whitney Moore]

Next up, this one is from Colianloodwell. Violet. Oh, with the hand with the ham.

[Matt Colville]

Take that worst tonus.

[Whitney Moore]

What's he saying?

[Matt Mercer]

One down, one down.

[Whitney Moore]

I love the lighting on.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah, that's red.

[Ashley Johnson]

It's giving scar.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Matt Colville]

No, Julian's a little scar coated. Oh yeah, I like that.

[Whitney Moore]

Little lightly gay, you know.

[Matt Colville]

Oh yeah, gorgeous.

[Matt Mercer]

Lots of hair.

[Whitney Moore]

Our third noteworthy notable tonight is from Lev.

[Ashley Johnson]

I love this so much.

[Whitney Moore]

It's fun to see the ones that are picked that we have shared in our group chat. Yeah, like, ooh, love. All right, our final noteworthy notable is from Seon. Yeah,

[Ashley Johnson]

that's a cosplay.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That is so.

[Whitney Moore]

It's a cosplay.

[Matt Colville]

It's incredible.

[Matt Mercer]

I love it so much.

[Aabria Iyengar]

It's so.

[Matt Mercer]

Oh yeah, look at me doing science, dude.

[Whitney Moore]

It's also very Disney villain coded.

[Matt Colville]

Oh, look at that lounging on the bed.

[Matt Mercer]

They have a better bed than I do.

[Matt Colville]

I know. Well, octus would.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Those are beautiful.

[Ashley Johnson]

I just like that you're really landing that Octis fell out of a Guillermo del Toro movie.

[Matt Colville]

Absolutely.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

I just tumbled right out of it.

[Matt Mercer]

Isekai'd from Crimson Peak.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

We saw someone at DC who gave you a piece of art that was as. As Frankenstein.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

From the movie. It was really, really cool. All right. And if you guys are watching at home and you Would like to be featured on a future noteworthy notables. Go check out critrole.com submit. Submit to me. Oh, wait.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Oh, dear.

[Whitney Moore]

What's happening? Acting? Is there a special fifth and secret noteworthy notable what it looks like. Somehow a few of my all take tailgate promo shoe got into the teleprompter. I guess we might as well show them.

[Ashley Johnson]

Pin. Look how beautiful pin looks.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, my gosh. Absolutely got a shout out. Wardrobe by Jenny Newman and Manzani Young. Makeup by Dre Renaine. Hair by Natsuki Props and set by Knoxville Birth. And photos by the amazingly talented Michael Schmidt. Schmidt Perez, who's right here behind this camera. We had such. Is that the one of me spitting?

[Matt Mercer]

Yes.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yes.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Oh, my God.

[Whitney Moore]

Hell yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

Come on and say run.

[Whitney Moore]

Run, run. Get in here. Come on, jog. We had so much fun.

[Ashley Johnson]

This is Jeremy. This is Fred.

[Whitney Moore]

We had such a good time.

[Ashley Johnson]

Schmidt.

[Matt Colville]

Schmidt, get in front.

[Whitney Moore]

There you go.

[Matt Mercer]

That's Schmidt. Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

What up?

[Aabria Iyengar]

Damn, girl.

[Matt Colville]

Can I say.

[Matt Mercer]

I guess everybody just gets my familiar and that's fine.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Thank you, girl.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah. Thank you for putting me in your clothes.

[Ashley Johnson]

It just pops out of places.

[Whitney Moore]

All right. Okay, bye.

[Aabria Iyengar]

We love you.

[Whitney Moore]

Thank you, guys. Thanks for making me look hot, everybody. All right.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Damn, those are cool.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, enough about me. Let's throw some leaves around.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Damn, those are good.

[Whitney Moore]

You guys, I've got some more questions for you guys. You want to keep rolling? Should we continue looking at pictures?

[Ashley Johnson]

What if we're looking at pictures?

[Whitney Moore]

I'm cool with either. Okay.

[Matt Mercer]

You lean more towards one I think I'm good with.

[Whitney Moore]

We can look at pictures of me later.

[Ashley Johnson]

After.

[Whitney Moore]

Okay, you guys, I wanna know, what was it like to approach House Einfausen with the tale of the Palazzo Divinos? Cause you guys had some juicy tails

[Matt Colville]

when we get to. No, I mean, it was intense. It was coming off of so much violence and intensity and danger. Pretty much every table was. The soldiers left to chase. Schemers stayed. We fled. And so we had the fleeing energy going straight into that whole region, into Castle Klippenbrik.

[Matt Mercer]

Klippenbrig.

[Matt Colville]

And so it was a shift of vibe, definitely, I think. And sorry, schemers. I know they were talking about possibly keeping this info as a useful thing. And the first thing we did was walk in and be like, hey, crazy thing happened.

[Matt Mercer]

I tried for five seconds to keep things under wraps. And then I was like, this isn't gonna work.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

No.

[Ashley Johnson]

They did not give us clear instructions on what not to say. And we were not the table of

[Matt Colville]

subtlety I think Julian very much is one of those people that is leaned upon the historical concept that the sundered houses are a unit. And so even with their challenges and squabbles, having this Taconus terror happen from underneath assumes that all the other houses are at the same level field as Royce. And the minute it came out, it was like, uh, oh, maybe this was a bad choice. Maybe this was a bad call. I don't know.

[Matt Mercer]

Aren't Fosden's cool?

[Whitney Moore]

They're probably so chill.

[Matt Colville]

They're so fun.

[Whitney Moore]

It's interesting, Matt, because it feels like Julian is kind of a babe in the world in a way that is different from Octis, where it's like he has this level. You guys both have this level of privilege, but you have this inherent sort of trust, whereas you're sort of the black sheep of your family. And so you kind of have the edge of like, maybe I don't run in with all of my information, but you're just like a cushy boy.

[Matt Colville]

Cushy boy with a low wisdom.

[Ashley Johnson]

I think she was.

[Matt Mercer]

Although I want to say I did forget one NPC that I love, which is the fucking bird guy in the record.

[Matt Colville]

He was right.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah. That's all I just remembered that guy.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Aabria Iyengar]

God, there were so many dude.

[Whitney Moore]

Brandon just.

[Aabria Iyengar]

He's just.

[Whitney Moore]

Is a fount. He's a fount of them. Ashley, how does.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Did I ask you?

[Whitney Moore]

How does Velis feel of having her goal of resurrecting her goddess out loud?

[Aabria Iyengar]

No, I just thought it.

[Whitney Moore]

I just thought it in my own head. How'd that feel?

[Aabria Iyengar]

I mean, sorry about that. It had to be said. I think. I think we all sort of knew. I think everybody picked up. I think Julian and Tysha especially picked up on it first. Not that Octis didn't, but I think we had a relationship that felt different. I think in the beginning, yeah, there

[Matt Mercer]

was like plausible deniability that it could have been about something else.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes. You know, and I. There's a lot of complicated feelings there. Cause it's not just that for her, I think it's, you know, getting close to people is very hard because then you start caring about stupid people. So, you know, I.

[Whitney Moore]

Why did it cut to Alex? Damn.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, Stupid people.

[Whitney Moore]

Fucking burn, dude.

[Ashley Johnson]

Getting absolutely roasted. Everyone. I'm gonna Venmo everyone back in the day.

[Whitney Moore]

No, but that's all of you.

[Aabria Iyengar]

All of you.

[Matt Mercer]

Like, I play a smart character.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I nevdom like she doesn't want to get close to anybody, but it's really hard when you start having these really sort of profound interactions with people, which she's had with everybody here. I mean, especially Tycha. But I think there's. I think. I think there was also a part of her where it kind of felt good to say it out loud because there's more to it than that, though. But whatever. I can't. That's all I'll say.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, you just touched on something that I want to keep talking about your relationship and Tycha's relationship because you guys went through a lot together. You as a worshiper of a dead God and a descendant of God killers. You shared a bathtub.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh la la. Memories of death. Chats with the dead. You guys have been through a lot. So how is that. How is that blossoming relationship affecting you? And we did lose our screens.

[Ashley Johnson]

We don't need them.

[Whitney Moore]

We don't need them. But we know you're here.

[Aabria Iyengar]

We know you're here.

[Ashley Johnson]

I just thought it was. It was so fun that our very first interaction was Tycha immediately like clocky. And they're like, oh. Your identity as you walk into this space is identifying yourself as a mourner and protector of Salandre. The first thing I'm gonna say to you is the cheapest shot I can make about your dream God, of course. So having that be the beginning of the relationship. And then through all of those moments going like, oh, the important thing here is seeing the fundamental humanity. Elf. Elfman. Elfiddy.

[Whitney Moore]

Elfititi.

[Ashley Johnson]

I feel like I just had a little stroke.

[Whitney Moore]

Elf titty.

[Ashley Johnson]

To see the elf titty.

[Whitney Moore]

To see an elf titty and elf titty.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's why we went to the bath together.

[Matt Mercer]

That scene gave Octas a full panic attack, you know?

[Aabria Iyengar]

And I will say there was so much. I even forgot to say. I feel like for. I feel like there was so much going on in that scene. And I also feel like for Velis, sort of physically getting naked in front of Taisha. Sorry. I think. I think there was children's show. I know.

[Whitney Moore]

Family show.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I think there was. That is a way that she's able to show what happened to her without having to say it.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Aabria Iyengar]

So I know. You know, I don't know if that makes any sense. You can see all the scars. And we don't have to talk about it, but we both know. But. And also, I'm very much enjoying playing a character that has a lot left to learn and it has sort of a wrong perspective on something of like, can you come back from that? Can you learn. Can you unlearn if you've been taught something that maybe is not that great and hurts other people? So similar with Lattice. Yeah. I love that.

[Ashley Johnson]

It's the beauty of, like, yes, you are functionally immortal. Both of your characters are functionally immortal, but, like, to be alive is to be open and reactive to change.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes.

[Ashley Johnson]

So having you guys immediately, like, stare that down in the first arc, it just makes it feel like, oh, this character is going to be dynamic. You spent 800 years alive and now, like. But we're watching you still grow as a person. Like, everyone does.

[Aabria Iyengar]

She was alive for 800 years, but in service to something. So it's like the 70 years. It's like, wait, who?

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Metro Customer]

Yeah, who?

[Matt Mercer]

And for a being that's so not used to change, you were living in a constant for 800 years. To then have to change is like, it's going to go slowly. You're gonna. You're so. That muscle is so atrophied, you know?

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yes, yes.

[Matt Mercer]

And there's an interesting thing of also, like, from my perspective or thinking about Velas from an outside perspective of looking at Octis and being like, oh, that thing is dead, and it acts now very much like me. You know, Veil is looking like it doesn't sleep anymore. It doesn't do these things.

[Whitney Moore]

Yes.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I remember you said that after the game where after you were resurrected and you said to Brennan, you said something like, we're very similar. You're like, but I'm dead and Bayless is alive. I was like, brad feels that's. That's not nice to hear. But it's true.

[Whitney Moore]

But it's a sweet connection and also led to that meditation moment, which was so sweet. Well, speaking of characters with wrong perspectives, Matt.

[Matt Colville]

Yep.

[Ashley Johnson]

You had. I needed support on that.

[Whitney Moore]

You had a really sweet, sort of out of his typical wheelhouse, sweet memory come up of his father and his support in his youth. So what was it like to explore a happy memory from Julian's childhood regarding the father that he had just lost? And how was Julian handling his grief?

[Matt Colville]

It was a wonderful, unexpected moment Julian, of course, has in my head and how I've discussed it with Brennan. You know, a lot of very complicated dynamics within his family, within his house, and within the general world politics. And getting a moment, an unexpected moment, to step into the bittersweet facets of the side of a relationship we only saw as tense before it came to an end only allows me to sit further into that bittersweet feeling within the character. So, like, yeah, I had in my head these ideas, these dynamics, but being able to actually like play through that even just further colors that internally and makes it that much harder, you know.

[Whitney Moore]

And it's so sweet to humanize him too, because it shows the pain, you know, you go, I can fix him. You go, oh, he's really.

[Matt Colville]

You cannot fix him. Nobody can fix Julian.

[Matt Mercer]

Only Julian can fix Julian.

[Matt Colville]

No, it's. Yeah, it was. It's the wonderful opportunities in games like this where we get to paint with different colors and push each other to paint with different colors through scenes we do together or with Brennan as the GM or any gm really getting able to take player out of the moment that they think they're gonna be going and go like, hey, here's some pink to mess with for a little bit, you know, and see how that feels and that in that moment find things you don't expect to within a character that you've already kind of grown comfortable with. I really appreciate that. And as far as like his dynamic with his dad. Yeah, he's not doing well.

[Whitney Moore]

Aw.

[Matt Colville]

I think it's especially tough for him because in my head he's had a continuously growing tension with his father and both of them do care about each other immensely. But the paths in their lives, their responsibilities, and their differences in perspective on how things are supposed to be has built up so much and they both want so bad to reconcile and before they had the chance to have that robbed is like gut wrenching.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, this is such a sweet answer, Matt.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I just.

[Whitney Moore]

I love. Oh, we saw a great Julian cosplayer also agent picture. Yeah. So, so great to see.

[Metro Advertiser]

Oh joy. Another day, another buzz delayed.

[Metro Customer]

Look on the bright side, you can finally catch up on podcasts.

[Metro Advertiser]

You don't mind running late. What's your deal?

[Metro Customer]

What's my deal? I saved at Metro with no activation fees. I got one line of 5G for just $25 a month.

[Whitney Moore]

Kept the phone I love and a

[Metro Customer]

5 year price guarantee for my talk text and data.

[Metro Advertiser]

Only $25. I'm going to Metro when we hop off.

[Whitney Moore]

Get that more for your money feeling only a Metro by T Mobile.

[Ashley Johnson]

Just bring your number. $30 first month and $25 after.

[Whitney Moore]

With auto pay price guarantee exceptions apply.

[Ashley Johnson]

See,

[Rosetta Stone Advertiser]

there are countless reasons to learn a new language. Whether you have an upcoming trip planned or you simply want to learn a new skill. Rosetta Stone breaks down your new language into bite sized pieces and focuses on speaking practice or real conversations. Rosetta Stone's True accent feature even helps you perfect your pronunciation. I mean pronunciation. Visit RosettaStone.com today. Rosetta Stone how language is learned.

[Tyler Redick / Chumba Casino Advertiser]

Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start. Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte, paint, finish and satin or what that clunking sound from your dryer is. With thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one. You can hire top rated pros, see price estimates and read reviews all on the app. Download today.

[Ashley Johnson]

Tyler Redich here. Game night's fun until someone spends five minutes lining up one shot.

[HelloFresh Advertiser]

Chalk.

[Ashley Johnson]

Breathe. Rechalk. Still aiming. While they figure it out, I fire up Chumba Casino. I can spin anywhere, anytime. And there's always a new social casino game every week. Spins happen way faster than that shot. Waitings for amateurs play [e-mail].

[Metro Advertiser]

let's Chumba.

[Tyler Redick / Chumba Casino Advertiser]

No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void. We're prohibited by law. CTNC's 21+ sponsored by Chumba Casino.

[Whitney Moore]

Alex.

[Matt Mercer]

Oh God. Are you making it up right now?

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah, there's nothing on that iPad.

[Whitney Moore]

It's just a picture of Alex.

[Matt Colville]

Candy crush for an hour.

[Whitney Moore]

How is Octa's handling the death of Dame Gaius Saramai, the disgraced knight of his vassal house who died protecting him? Speaking of grief.

[Matt Mercer]

Well, so as we kind of discussed Brennan or Brennan, and I said, I think during a cooldown or something like that, the way his emotions work now, octys are a little strange because nothing happens automatically anymore in his body or anything that's happened. So it's like he has to finally think about something and analyze it to feel anything about it.

[Matt Colville]

Intellectualizing emotions.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, I have to intellectualize emotions to actually get the emotions to trigger, which is a weird thing for Octus. So, like, because. Because he is in fact dead. So it is in a way, you know, his subconscious systems don't really work anymore. So, like, he doesn't, you know, the same as he doesn't create saliva or do anything like that anymore. Those things have to be actively considered in order to, like, trigger.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah, you'll see saliva or guilt.

[Whitney Moore]

What? His limbic system is not functioning.

[Matt Mercer]

So as of this point in time, he hasn't really had a chance to sit with it yet. So he hasn't really. He hasn't felt anything about it other than just, oh, shit, like in the moment of, like, that they died. That's bad. We're in danger. Yeah, but he hasn't had actual time to Sit and feel the feelings about a person he didn't know that well, but who definitely gave their life in service and to protect him. But. And I have feelings about it, but Octus hasn't had a chance to, like, sit with it, feel those things, and analyze that situation yet.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, that's a great answer. I also. You just reminded me of a part that I loved from your arc, which was you trying to make yourself puke up the beer. It was so. That was early days. That was so nasty.

[Matt Mercer]

That also has one of my favorite screenshots of you walking in on that and me closing my jacket and then Ashley just pointing at me.

[Whitney Moore]

Hey, something really gross that just happened.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, that was something. I did not expect that to be as gross as it was. And Brendan made it so gross.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

And I was like, this is rough, man. I'm like.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I was like, yes.

[Matt Colville]

Give me that visceral memory of, like, a friend whose younger sister had one of those dolls that you could feed, but they put actual food inside her, and then it, like, rotted.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh.

[Matt Colville]

And somebody was describing it.

[Whitney Moore]

I was like, that's basically.

[Matt Colville]

I haven't thought of that since I was a kid.

[Matt Mercer]

I'm a doll.

[Matt Colville]

Yeah. Sorry, buddy.

[Matt Mercer]

No, it's fine. No, I. Everything Brendan's done with me being dead. Cause I really wanted to play into the. Being dead is not a good thing. It's not just, like, problems go away when you're dead. And so Brendan really took that and ran with it. Of just, like, everything about Octa is so bad, and it's like he's just so barely holding it together.

[Matt Colville]

Yeah. This new Death becomes her sequel. I'm a big fan of it.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

That's so cool.

[Aabria Iyengar]

But there's been so many moments where I get surprised with you and Brennan bringing up something like your breath or little things where you're like, of course

[Whitney Moore]

that would be gone.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

Whoa.

[Aabria Iyengar]

My God. I love it.

[Matt Mercer]

The learning to control his blood was kind of part of that, of being like, oh, I don't use this anymore. I can use it for something else. And that brain of what a wizard is is, like, the scientific aspect and the invention, using pieces of himself that he no longer needs.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's so cool, just sitting here being like, I'll use every part of the buffalo. And then you wonder why Tyson's like, are you not like your family? Because that's what they did. And you're like, ah, we're not using this blood. Here you go.

[Matt Mercer]

But it's my blood.

[Whitney Moore]

I wish that we were on Nightcap so that I could make the joke that I want to make, but I'll save it for it later. There you go, gang.

[Matt Colville]

No fluid night terrain done for you.

[Ashley Johnson]

Send the children to bed.

[Whitney Moore]

We can talk about butt Aabria.

[Matt Mercer]

That's definitely what we're gonna talk about.

[Ashley Johnson]

100%.

[Whitney Moore]

Speaking of octis, what was it like for Tysha to debate? You had this debate with your fellow Druids about your friend's son. Your son friend.

[Aabria Iyengar]

The Druids are so cool.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, Hanon fucks pretty hard.

[Ashley Johnson]

I like Hanon so much.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Same.

[Ashley Johnson]

He's just like that felt like a fun little shout out from Brennan where we've talked a lot about the philosophy of Druid's relationship and orc's relationship to the sundered houses and seeing politically what is happening in Kahad and, like, Dol Makyar and having a character that can kind of stand beside Tysha and go, like, actually, you should be madder. And I'm like, not now.

[Matt Mercer]

Shut up.

[Ashley Johnson]

Shut up. You're very cool tree ribs, but shut up.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah, those tree ribs.

[Matt Colville]

That's his tribs. Hannah Tribs.

[Ashley Johnson]

Hannon Tribs.

[Matt Colville]

Sounds like a friend you'd have in high school.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, Hannah Tribs.

[Ashley Johnson]

Well, my friend Hannon Tribs, yeah, he fell off of a cliff that one time. He's fine, though.

[Matt Mercer]

He's fine.

[Ashley Johnson]

There's trees everywhere.

[Matt Colville]

You can speak four numbers, but it's fine.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, he's missing sixth or eight.

[Ashley Johnson]

But to very quickly answer, it was very fun to again, play with, like, the philosophical underpinnings of Tysha and having to, like, defend your choices as instinct, but born off of the, like. I hate to, like, quote Malcolm Gladwell, but there's something about that, like, instinct.

[Whitney Moore]

Why do you hate to.

[Ashley Johnson]

Oh, that's for the nightcap.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That's for the nightcap.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's fine. But that idea that, like, instinct is usually born of, like, your brain beginning to put together something that you haven't fully thought about yet. So in that moment when she went like, this doesn't seem quite right. Yo, get off the path. Flip a bitch. Come back.

[Matt Mercer]

That she was exploded.

[Ashley Johnson]

Exactly. Beginning to see something and then trying to expl Explain that to the Druids as, like, hey, I can't quite tell you why I feel so strongly that this is a yes, but, like, hold. I'll make a good case in a week or two.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah, the answers will come in time.

[Whitney Moore]

You guys are all blowing my mind with these answers. It's just. I feel like I learn so much every time we talk about our characters, because all of you as actors have really different approaches. And I just love you. I just am having a really good time, that's all. Everybody's really good at their jobs. Well, we just talked about Hanon, and you had a moment with Hanon, too, so. Ashley. Wow. Wow.

[Ashley Johnson]

What was that? What was.

[Whitney Moore]

Ashley,

[Matt Mercer]

speaking of strokes.

[Whitney Moore]

Wow. What was it like to confront Hannon?

[Tyler Redick / Chumba Casino Advertiser]

Wow.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Wow, wow, wow. I'm. I just got really nervous because I'm like, what have I. What have we. What have we done? What have we.

[Matt Mercer]

What have we done?

[Aabria Iyengar]

What have we.

[Ashley Johnson]

Just pops off and hit somebody.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I know. And it's like, wait, what can't I talk about? Yeah, that was intense. I feel like Hannon. I'll just throw out some words to protect myself right now. You're doing great. Thank you. Thank you. I feel like Hannon will really help.

[Matt Mercer]

Okay.

[Matt Colville]

Wait, was it Hinnon that dropped the flower doll term?

[Whitney Moore]

Yes.

[Matt Colville]

That was rough.

[Aabria Iyengar]

That was rough.

[Matt Mercer]

Human being, like. I know what that means.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

The rest of us are like, a word bad. Is it bad? Did he do a cuss?

[Aabria Iyengar]

Yeah. I mean, it's a really interesting way to get out information, and I think that's what's. I don't know. I loved the approach that Brennan had with someone being confrontational towards me and saying something to sort of. What am I trying to say? To sort of get out information about the sisters? A little bit. But I think. Yeah, we'll talk about that more later maybe.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, la la. Okay.

[Matt Mercer]

That's tricky one.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah, that's a tricky one. Yeah. Too many. We don't want to get into spoiler territory. Oh. So instead, I'll ask Matt. What was it like saying goodbye? So many goodbyes.

[Matt Colville]

Oh, way to just drive it home.

[Whitney Moore]

Saying goodbye to Erinessa. And how is Julian feeling about her departure to the Golden Orchard?

[Matt Mercer]

You gotta say goodbye to your haste machine.

[Matt Colville]

I know it's hard to say goodbye to haste. As a fighter, I'll tell you that.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's why we replace the.

[Aabria Iyengar]

But, like, is she in love with you?

[Matt Mercer]

I don't think.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Sorry, I'm just throwing it out there. Maybe not.

[Ashley Johnson]

Are we related?

[Matt Colville]

Oh, we're not related. But. But, But.

[Ashley Johnson]

No. I think she calls him cousin. I wasn't sure if she was doing something.

[Matt Mercer]

I think it's more of a term of endearment.

[Matt Colville]

More of a term of demon.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

Because, like, you know, are the.

[Ashley Johnson]

Sometimes y' all are related. Like, that's a house to.

[Matt Mercer]

What?

[Ashley Johnson]

No fair. Fair. I watch a lot of Game of Thrones.

[Matt Colville]

I'm pretty sure there's. There's some einfas and paths crossing at some point generationally. You know, House Divinos is a vassal house of Royce. He grew up. She more or less is kind of like an aunt to him. Like, you know, she's about 15ish years older than him, I think. And so, like, he was a baby when she was a teenager, and she probably, like, watched him grow up and everything. And so I think they're very, very close, especially given a lot of the other politics and everything around there and his tension with his family, his mother and his father in their own unique ways. I think she's one of the people that kind of still believes in him and kind of has his back in a lot of ways. Cause they've grown up a lot together. And he looks up to her tremendously and is one of the people that he really doesn't want to disappoint. So I think he keeps a lot of his bullshit out of her periphery.

[Ashley Johnson]

Respect.

[Matt Colville]

And he's definitely on his best behavior when she's around. And so I think her presence on the heavy leg of this journey was very much keeping him together out of just, I guess, being used to keeping it together in her presence. And so I think part of sending her off to the Golden Orchard was one he really wanted to make sure to check in, that they were safe, that his sister more than anybody and his mother were safe and the Golden Orchard was not in danger in the way that the Plaza Divinos was. But he also wanted to kind of get off, let off the chain a little bit if they were head towards more Tacona's possible territory.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Matt Colville]

And so he's like, hey, this not only makes sense for you tactically and I appreciate you, but I want to get messy and I can't get messy around you. So please stay.

[Matt Mercer]

Please don't go anywhere. Please.

[Ashley Johnson]

We were all like, wait, what's the word you use? What's the, like, can you use the little. What's his little clicker that makes him stop

[Whitney Moore]

clicker training?

[Matt Colville]

There you go.

[Whitney Moore]

The vibrator.

[Matt Mercer]

Yeah. Little collar.

[Ashley Johnson]

I just realized you describing that age gap and that, like, dynamic just made me think, like, could you imagine babysitting a little kid and being like, when you grow up, you can't let me die.

[Matt Colville]

Okay.

[Ashley Johnson]

That's your whole deal?

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Ashley Johnson]

I'm gonna change your diaper, and then you're gonna protect me with violence.

[Whitney Moore]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

Wow.

[Whitney Moore]

It's interesting to Hear you talk about it, Matt. Cause Julian, Sir. Julian.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Sorry, he is.

[Matt Colville]

I was waiting for you.

[Whitney Moore]

Put some respect on that. He's such a little asshole. But also, it's so clear that he has this real code of conduct that he lives by.

[Aabria Iyengar]

And he.

[Whitney Moore]

He is so messy. But also, at the end of the day, I've seen the choices that he makes. And he does have his own internal honor system. It seems like he does.

[Matt Colville]

He has things in life that he holds very important. He has his own set of rules that he lives by and believes in, and he adheres to them very strongly. Everything in the margins or between those rules is like, whatever. It's a free fl. And he's definitely one of those people that, like, very much a soldier between wars. When you define yourself through victory and violence, and then you have an extended period of peace and you're in this kind of affluent place where you don't know where you belong, but you have a lot of privilege, one of the options is to become an absolute fuckboy. And that's definitely kind of where he went.

[Matt Mercer]

I get it.

[Ashley Johnson]

Who you do you get it? You died a virgin.

[Matt Mercer]

Super did.

[Matt Colville]

And that's okay.

[Whitney Moore]

And that's okay. That's okay. Well, I have a question for Alex and Matt. What are Octas feelings about Julian's quest for vengeance towards his own family? And how did it feel for Julian to get revenge on his first aconis?

[Matt Mercer]

It's so complicated because obviously Octus also is furious with his family and that whole situation is all fucked up and betrayal, but also they are his family. And so watching his brother get thrown off of a thing into a waterfall, it's like. But yeah, that guy, he was a dick to me my whole life, but he's still my brother.

[Ashley Johnson]

Yeah.

[Matt Mercer]

And so it's like a weird. There's a lot of confused emotions there when he bothers to again activate that, because he can. Compartmentalization is so easy for Octus now. He just stops thinking about it and it goes away. So, like, it's a very sort of sticky and complicated situation. And is also then equally difficult to have a relationship with Julian because the man who is trying to murder my family. And I'm also kind of like, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but also this puts me in a weird position to be like, go kill my family. Like, it's so messy.

[Matt Colville]

It's complicated. I mean, you can't. You can't pick your family, but you can kick them off a cliff.

[Matt Mercer]

Yes.

[Matt Colville]

That's what I live by.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I Think it's so funny that Tycha, somebody who can very. Is very open with her feelings and has access to her emotions, had all of us on the road with her. Like, people who are like, let me just put this somewhere. Let me trash compact it down. Let me put it over here. And then just. I think it's kind of beautiful.

[Matt Colville]

It's interesting. I feel like this seeker arc, for the most part, was one loud conversation away from everybody unraveling and screaming at each other. And everyone was just right on the edge of holding it together the entire time, which led to this underlying energy that was simmering. It was bubble at the table.

[Aabria Iyengar]

It was fun.

[Whitney Moore]

So fun to watch again.

[Matt Mercer]

One of my favorite things in the world is to argue with people in a role playing game.

[Ashley Johnson]

So I'm like, yeah, I'll pop off. I was like, it just feels like mush and Barbies together where you're like, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Moore]

But it was more.

[Aabria Iyengar]

I was getting into it, getting more comfortable with it. I'm like, oh, wait, this is actually kind of fun. Somebody be mean to me.

[Matt Mercer]

Thanks.

[Matt Colville]

I saw you.

[Matt Mercer]

Wrong lesson.

[Matt Colville]

Draw on the team alike. Somebody. Somebody come at me. Anybody.

[Whitney Moore]

I love it. You guys, this has been such a fun chat. I love to hear your perspectives about what is happening and also just be reminded of all the crazy lore that you guys got because the soldiers were like, I punched a guy and met a dog. Like, that's great.

[Ashley Johnson]

Which is great.

[Matt Mercer]

Red Cap's gonna put his hat in me.

[Whitney Moore]

Oh, my God.

[Aabria Iyengar]

Brennan.

[Whitney Moore]

Brennan was full of little freaks that I'm here for.

[Matt Colville]

Yes, Yes.

[Matt Mercer]

I kill people every day.

[Matt Colville]

Hundred.

[Whitney Moore]

Well, that brings us to the end of our time here at tailgate. I know if you're watching on YouTube or Twitch. Thank you for journeying with us tonight and we'll see you again very soon after the schemers arc. But if you're a Beacon subscriber, don't go anywhere. We're heading straight into the nightcap where we open up the conversation to our beacon bits on our exclusive Beacon Discord. We'll see you there. That's all for this festive frivolity. Thank you for being here today. You're cordially invited to our exclusive after party. Head over to Beacon TV for the nightcap and hear the cast answer questions directly from our beacon bits. Have something you'd like to ask our adventurers? Become a Beacon member at Beacon TV and join us live for the next tailgate to get your burning questions answered by the cast themselves. Until the next time the tables turn.

[Metro Advertiser]

Pay around the corner and around the globe. Apple Pay is accepted at millions of places worldwide. Wherever you see the contactless symbol in stores or the Apple Pay button online and in apps. Whether you're checking out on iPhone or Apple Watch, just double click pay and

[Matt Colville]

be on your way.

[Metro Advertiser]

Add your debit or credit card to wallet and you're good to go. Pay the Apple way Terms apply. Oh joy. Another day another bus delayed.

[Metro Customer]

Look on the bright side, you can finally catch up on podcasts.

[Metro Advertiser]

You don't mind running late. What's your deal?

[Metro Customer]

What's my deal? I saved at Metro with no activation fees. I got one line of 5G for just $25 a month.

[Whitney Moore]

Kept the phone I love and a

[Metro Customer]

5 year price guarantee for my talk text and data.

[Metro Advertiser]

Only $25. I'm going to Met Metro when we

[Whitney Moore]

hop off get that more for your money feeling only a Metro by T mobile just bring your number $30 first

[Ashley Johnson]

month and $25 after with auto pay price guarantee exceptions apply CSI for details.