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Crossing The Firewall
Hosted by MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training · EN
The Crossing the Firewall podcast is a bi-weekly cybercrime podcast hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher and sponsored by the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training. Each episode is a deep dive into one of the many facets of cybercrime and features a unique researcher or practitioner in the field.
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Can Regulation Save Us From AI?
1w ago01:08:18Tap to summarizeThis week's episode of Crossing The Firewall, we discuss Artificial Intelligence (AI), Government policy, and regulations. Can we regulate our way to a safe AI environment, or has the metaphorical train left the station and we are simply on the ride?Our guest Dr. Johannes Bauer is a Professor in the College of Communication Arts & Sciences at Michigan State University, and Quello Chair for Media and Information Policy. Dr. Bauer's expertise is in the digital economy, focusing on harnessing the benefits of information and communication technologies (ICTs) while avoiding their downsides. In addition to his role at MSU, Dr. Bauer has also served as Chief Economist in the Office of Economics and Analytics (OEA) of the U.S. Federal Communications Commission in Washington, DC.----Learn more about Dr. Bauer: https://comartsci.msu.edu/our-people/johannes-m-bauerInterested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Lets Go Phishing - Ep. 28
3w ago01:03:25Tap to summarizeJoin us for this phishing adventure with Michael Joyce, Executive Director of the Human-Centric Cybersecurity Partnership and host of the popular Cybercrimeology podcast! We discuss Phishing scams, the ethics of conducting cybercrime research, and what it takes for us to protect ourselves from scams that are becoming more sophisticated. Listen to the Cybercrimeology Podcast here: https://cybercrimeology.com/----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →The Lost Episode: Addressing the Recent Spike in Sextortion
Apr 801:00:26Tap to summarizeBack in May 2025, we recorded a podcast with Dr. Roberta Liggett O'Malley addressing the recent spike in sextortion cases across the United States. Unfortunately, the audio and video files were lost through some mysterious circumstances (we blame our editor). However, the files have been uncovered and we can now publish the episode almost a year to the date of the original recording!Dr. Liggett O'Malley is an Assistant Professor in Department of Criminology at the University of South Florida. She is an expert in sextortion and cybercrime, quickly earning a strong reputation in the field as a leading researcher. She is also an alum of the MSU School of Criminal Justice's Doctoral Program. ----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Combating CSAM with AI - Ep. 26
Mar 2600:50:39Tap to summarizeThis week we meet with Dr. Russell Brewer, a Professor in the School of Society and Culture at Adelaide University. Dr. Brewer is an expert on the human dimensions of cybercrime and how AI can help identify perpetrators of crime. One of Dr. Brewer's latest projects is developing a stack of AI tools that can help investigators combat CSAM. ----Learn more about Dr. Brewer: https://researchers.adelaide.edu.au/profile/russell.brewer----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Lurking on the Dark Web - Ep. 25
Mar 400:47:30Tap to summarizeThis week's episode of Crossing The Firewall features special guest Rebecca Taylor, a Threat Intelligence Knowledge Manager at Sophos. Rebecca discusses how she got into a career in cybercrime and cybersecurity with a degree in English and how the field has evolved over the years. Rebecca is also a published author and podcast host with Amelia Hewitt. Follow their podcast "The Cyber Agony Aunt" on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5I1rC0bNVBjqwYaqsA6fxQ----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Ethical Hacking for a Safer World - Ep. 24
Feb 1800:53:45Tap to summarizeCan hackers use their skills for good? It depends on who you ask. However, Ethical Hackers are utilized by companies and governments to find weaknesses in their systems so they can increase their security. These hackers have varying perspectives on their roles, other hackers, and even what the term "hacker" means. We are joined by special guest Dr. Marleen Weulen Kranenbarg, an Assistant Professor at the University of Amsterdam. Dr. Weulen Kranenbarg studies ethical hacking and ethical hackers working to understand what drives them and how hacking behaviors develop.----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Global Perspectives on Cybercrime - Ep. 23
Feb 400:56:16Tap to summarizeThis week, we are joined by Dr. Suleman Lazarus, a Visiting Scholar at the Mannheim Centre for Criminology at the London School of Economics and Political Science, to discuss global perspectives on cybercrime. Dr. Lazarus conducts groundbreaking and interesting research on cybercrime, working to understand not only the crime being committed but the perpetrators and victims alike.----Learn more about Dr. Lazarus: https://www.lse.ac.uk/people/suleman-lazarus ----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Cybercrime & Video Games - Ep. 22
Jan 2101:11:39Tap to summarizeWe are excited to have our first return guest on Crossing The Firewall, Dr. Kevin Steinmetz! Join us this week as we discuss cybercrime in video games. From depictions of cybercrime in video games to actual cybercrimes being carried out through online video games. What are our favorite video games? What was the first video game to depict hacking? How do we protect ourselves and our children from cyber criminals online? We discuss it all in this episode of Crossing The Firewall! ----Learn more about Dr. Kevin Steinmetz: https://www.k-state.edu/sasw/criminology/about/faculty/steinmetz.html----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Just Like Cybercrime In The Movies - Ep. 21
Jan 701:00:19Tap to summarizeHappy New Year everyone! To kick of 2026, we decided to record a fun episode discussing our favorite movies featuring various types of cybercrime. We are joined by special guest Dr. Adam Bossler, a Professor in the Department of Criminal Justice & Criminology at Georgia Southern University. Dr. Bossler's research focuses on applying traditional criminological theories to various forms of cybercrime offending and victimization and the law enforcement response to cybercrime.----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
Transcribe →Hacktivism or Cybercrime? - Ep. 20
Dec 2901:00:37Tap to summarizeHacktivism: when individuals or groups utilize cyberattacks to promote political or social causes. Is it a justified use of hacking skills or just another example of cybercrime?The answer to that question may depend on who you ask, but our guest this week is Dr. Vasileios Karagiannopoulos (an expert in cybercrime and hacktivism) who will discuss motives, methods, and the rise of hacktivism.Dr. Karagiannopoulos is an Associate Professor in the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice at the University of Portsmouth. He is also the Co-Director of the Cybercrime and Economic Crime Research Centre.---Learn more about Dr. Karagiannopoulos: https://www.port.ac.uk/about-us/structure-and-governance/our-people/our-staff/vasileios-karagiannopoulos ----Interested in learning more about the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation & Training? Visit our website: www.cybertraining.msu.eduAdvance your career with a Masters Degree in Cybercrime and Digital Investigation from the MSU School of Criminal Justice: https://online.cj.msu.edu/ms-masters-cybercrime-digital-investigation----Follow Crossing the Firewall on social media! Find us on BlueSky and Instagram. You can also follow the MSU Center for Cybercrime Investigation and Training on LinkedIn. Crossing the Firewall is hosted by Dr. Tom Holt, Dr. Rachel McNealey, and Dr. Taylor Fisher. Edited by JJ Thomas. All views and opinions expressed are the views of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of their home institutions or places of work. All information provided in this podcast should not be taken as business, personal, financial, or legal advice.
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