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Crypto Rundown: Another 500% Winner, Did Bitcoin Bottom, & How A.I Agents are Profitable in Crypto
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Brian
Are you, you starting to like, look smack looks maxing on me or something with this hot sauna, cold tub. I mean, Tevo's getting healthy here. I, I love it here.
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Host
I'm taking my, I'm over here taking my hard drives, just nailing the chin there for all the looks maxers. That's a, that's a, that's a deep joke. Really went for the full bit there on the looks maxing. That's great.
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Brian
Yeah, you know, it's, we do have some exciting news to talk about here and the market, the market's just, let's just jump into coin market cap bud and talk about it. Because right when we, right when we get a little bit of life in us, you know, I got the Hopium mask on. You know, I'm putting the Hopi masks on to my kids after I get my mask securely on. Just like the airlines. This is, we're back under 70 with Bitcoin. And it's not surprising. I mean, we talked about in the last rundown, there's certainly some narratives out there with geopolitical wise, just everything that's going on in the market. So we're in the chop zone and we're absolutely living in this chop zone. This is my warm water that we are living in and we're absolutely making it happen. But Bitcoin 68k on a 85 Ethereum lost 2000, right? At what, close to 2000. But it's, it's not surprising to me, you know, the movements we're going, we're not just absolutely getting flushed out, but it's Friday. We're going into the weekend. Who knows what type of announcements we could get from the White House over the weekend with everything that's going on. But I think some of the pullback here that's happening is, you know, we're getting more and more intel about this geopolitical issue with Iran. And it looks like, I think Trump said something recently like, unless they completely give up, I'm not thinking the words, you know, just surrender. The war may take a Little bit longer. And the market doesn't love it. A volatile asset. But nothing fundamentally is broken here. But you can see once we start to get some bullish headlines that the markets can move and they can move pretty quickly.
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Host
Yeah, couldn't agree more on the heading into the weekend. Obviously the crypto markets trade 247, 365, just like we saw last Saturday with a move on bitcoin. You know, if something happens, you know, macro wise you're going to see bitcoin in the crypto markets move first over the weekends. But that totally makes sense. A fun little rally basically. Kind of a week long rally if you will, going back to last Saturday to get above 70 and we're, we're going to keep tabs on it. It is hard to kind of, kind of guess where this is going to go. I don't think anybody in the world could tell you, you know, exactly where this is going to go based on a macro environment. But it is good to see some life. So I'll pull up here with the fee Fear Greed index. We'll share this tab. Finally, finally got out of extreme fear. It's like we've been extreme fear since late January basically. So, you know, basically a full month of February and extreme fear on a lot of the metrics there. So good to get, good to see the pop there again. I, I think it's telling of, you know, the future's still there, people, the buyers are still coming in and we're definitely going to focus on crypto. We're not gonna focus on bitcoin. But I don't know man, we do this show a lot and we put out a lot of content, a lot of awesome content. And we've been kind of telling this, kind of tracking this IGV comparison for bitcoin and, and the IGV software trade. And I just got to say for, we've been talking about it, we know it was leading down but you know, over the past basically week it's up like 8% on the week. And I just want to give credit to us because it's something that we've been calling out. I don't want to give credit to me specifically because it's something that I feel like I've really been harped on. It's Friday, I got nice coffee, a little credit to me, nothing wrong with that. I mean, 8% on the week, that's not bad. I think that's going to, you know, that's a lot of trading. There was a interesting Stat I saw it was the IGV software compared to semis. It was its greatest week long dispersion. So it was like a 10% delta of people were selling semis and buying software. And that's probably just a trade. But it goes back to the kind of what I said when we were talking about the macro markets as a whole is the money's not leaving the markets, the money's trading, it's bouncing around. And obviously crypto being the biggest risk on asset will probably be one of the last places for the money to flood in. But when it does, it's very violent. And that's what we saw. I think this week is like, all right, if bitcoin was dead and Ethereum was dead, you're not going to see these 6 to 10% pumps in a day or two. And so it was really, really good to see that. It's a great time again to be listening to the show, enjoying the community and seeing where things are going. Where's the puck going? Because when this, when the game's back on. And again we played that clip from Raul Paul the other week. Retail will be back. And not only will retail reback, but he'll be on the show. I got him booked for Monday. So the guests keep coming in, Brian. The builders keep building. Robin Hood keeps building. We got Max Kaplan from Soul Strategies coming on next week. There's this is, this is when winners win, when the markets are down and you're educating and you continue to build. Builders build and builders turn into winners long term. So I think you're in the right place. I'm super excited to continue on the rundown, but let's, let's keep it crypto and bitcoin specific. We haven't looked up a friend of the show, Eric from Bloomberg, checking out the Bitcoin ETFs, but again, a lot of positive stuff. Obviously, like there was some sellers just like everywhere across the market, but there continues to be some interesting flow. Just basically the boomers love, love to hoddle. Brian, what do you think about these ETFs?
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Brian
Yeah, I mean, you can see that we're getting some positive inflows. I think actually yesterday we, we did see, over the past, we did see some negative inflows of a couple hundred million, but overall pretty net positive. I think over a billion in inflows for the month. And it's great to see that the inflows are happening and that, that's, that's a big catalyst about where our next moves are going to Be institutions and news. Where we're going is institutions absolutely have an interest in bitcoin in the cryptocurrency market and money is flowing in now. It'll trickle out here and there. There's definitely always the ebbs and flows to it. But great to see that. You know we're starting to pick up some steam here with these ETFs again.
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Host
Yeah, no, no mass selling, no mass running for the exits. And it's, it's, it's basically the same storyline that we've been telling since we've been covering, you know, the, the birth of these ETFs. It's like hey, these products don't get made for, to be around for a year or two and then they're gone, they're sticking around. And the people that have been educated to, you know, again this isn't 50 of their net worth. The people that are buying, especially these BlackRock ones, it's a 1, 2, 3, maybe up to 5% at most allocation and it's part of a larger portfolio. So it's, it's good to see, it's good to see them being strong and it's not the only, the only strong. Look here I, I saw this is Matt Hogan of course, another friend of the show. Kazakhstan buying 350 million or I guess trading invest from its gold and foreign exchange reserves into crypto related assets. So taking a little bit of gold, moving it into crypto and, and you might say, and this is exactly what I thought, I was like, ah, Kazakhstan who kind, you know, doesn't really get me riled up on a Friday afternoon. But I thought Matt made a good point. It's like hey, the market hasn't really priced in sovereigns. The market's just like oh, the sovereigns aren't buying crypto and the market, you know, he says the market's wrong. That's obviously a little bit more of like, you know, bullish on crypto take but you know, it only takes, you know, one big buy from one big sovereign fund and then again they start tripping over the feet. So something that we've covered before but I think when you know, when you see the smaller people doing it is worth covering. So Kazakhstan converting, converting gold and into not just bitcoin but crypto assets which I thought was interesting and kind of speaking of crypto assets, we know how much people are hurting out there with altcoins and it's you know, near all time lows and they're saying it's worse than the post FTX period. So I thought it was a cool, a cool thing to put here. Just in the sense of not the price action is cool but it's good to look back because you can learn from your past trades, you can learn from your past investments, you can learn from your past trials and tribulations. And so I thought it would be a good thought exercise for us Brian, to be like hey, the price action is similar to the FTX period but I certainly don't feel like I did back then, you know. What are your thoughts on that?
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Brian
Yeah, I've said this quite a bit that that FTX debacle was pretty rough for my mental state. I'm nowhere near that mental state and I'm closer to the market than I've ever been. Maybe that's why I'm not near that state, you know, because I was just reading headlines and not really diving in back in the FTX days I was just get scared now I've seen my fair share bull and bear markets and this one doesn't. I call this one of the weakest bear markets of all time. I, I, but you know, it is what it is and nobody loves when the price goes down. These all coins are interesting to me because, and this could be a hot take, this could be a hot take for, for the fort other analysts here. But I do think there's some altcoins out there that are, that are crap, that aren't making money, that aren't doing big things and we're just seeing more and more just kind of like tokenized stuff to tokenize stuff. But then there's this other sector that are revenue generating these super apps, for instance, the hyper liquids of the world where they're doing something innovative and they're utilizing crypto in the way it's supposed to be used which I think is extremely interesting in and not financial advice. I feel like some of these super apps or some of these altcoins are massively discounted right now. Now does that mean that they can't go down? I don't, I don't know. I can't, I, if I knew this I would be leveraging everything and I'm not, I'm not doing that because that's not the time to, now is not the time to do it. But some of these alts, some of these super apps are really interesting. I'm not even sure if this is on the sheet. I'm going to go on a little tangent here but we even got news today that the parent company, the Intercontinental Exchange ICE for the New York Stock Exchange made a huge billion. Oh, I don't know the exact amount. A $25 billion valuation of OkX Exchange. ICE made an investment into this. So we're seeing more and more tradfi companies integrate with these major crypto companies and their vice, or their vice president of like, strategic. Something made a really interesting comment where he said that, man, I wish I had the quote in front of me. He said something along the lines of their biggest competition isn't CME and NASDAQ, it's DeFi protocols. It's the crypto world. This is a guy coming from the vice president of Intercontinental Exchange, a parent company of New York Stock Exchange. And he specifically called out like super apps like Robin Hood, like Uni Swap, like Hyper Liquid. And so some of the. I get Robinhood is not a crypto their stock, but you know, they're close enough to what we're talking about here. So there's a world here where I do think some altcoins are massively undervalued and then some are probably can, you know, send them off down the river.
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Host
It's the same with Robinhood. It's tradfi is investing in crypto type projects with crypto technologies. Robinhood is just building their own, obviously. And we've covered that nonstop. We had Johan Kerb brat, sorry, Johan Kirbat on the pod Tuesday that's gonna go out on Tuesday next week. So you're definitely gonna tune in for that one. That was great. Great episode. Before we move on, we're gonna move on to cracking next, but we got to give a shout out to the chat. An absolutely active chat on a Friday. Cje sucking in some Hopium beachfronts here. UTU Beamy from London across the pond. That's awesome. David from Pinellas park close by to me. What's up? David, the great habish. Been seeing him a lot recently. Thanks for joining Beachfront from Palm Springs. Who else do we got? And David. Yeah, David and cj. That's about everybody. Sounds good. We got an active chat. Anybody else that's in there that hasn't commented yet, let us know where you're from and if you can give us a like. And if you're new on the bottom right, hit the logo. Give us a subscription so you don't miss out on all the good content. Kraken Cracking news. Breaking news.
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Host
Shocking. I was like if if there was an exchange to make breaking news of this magnitude, for some reason, I didn't think it would be cracking. That's just me. Call me Bias Gemini, friend of the show. But you got to give credit where credit's due. You know, you're thinking with something like this, as much as Brian Armstrong's been basically living in D.C. you think it might be Coinbase? Maybe it's the wink of Austrians in Gemini. No, it's the Kraken exchange has become the first crypto platform to gain access to the Federal Reserve's core payment system putting it on the same payment rails as thousands of US banks and credit unions per coindesk. Let's listen to Cynthia Loomis who I believe is on retiring soon so we're gonna miss her her clips but two minute clip here. I think this is worth maybe listening to about minute 90 seconds and then Brian, I want to hear your take.
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Cynthia Loomis
This is going to be a huge asset. And today's announcement by Kraken that they now have access to a Skinny Master account is going to add another opportunity for the new integration of the fiat dollar with digital assets. This is a huge step forward. Very happy to see the Fed finally realize that we can integrate these financial products in a way that benefits Americans. Senator, explain the news with Kraken because I'm not sure I understand it. I've read it, but I don't entirely understand it. The, the news that the Federal Reserve is now going to be accepting this first digital asset company to earn a master account. What does that mean? Well, Kraken used a Wyoming law that was very foresightful called a special purpose depository institution to form. Wyoming has a very comprehensive clear examination for safety and soundness of these companies. And yet under the Biden administration the Fed would not approve digital asset companies that formed similarly to access the Fed's payment window. So there wasn't a way to integrate digital assets with the US fiat currency.
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Host
So integration is here. Brian, what is your, what was your initial reaction? I was, I was kind of shocked and curious similar to Becky there, the host. I was like man, you know, just off the jump, I need to look in and learn what this is to be quite honest.
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Brian
Yeah, it's to kick things off here. It's a Skinny Master account. It's not full banking privileges. So Kraken gets payment accesses access but doesn't get interest on reserves, FDIC insurance or like that emergency lending from the Fed. But still huge news. I mean Kraken just became the first crypto company with a Federal Reserve master account. And it's the bank a direct banking arm to connect with the Fed's core payment rails like Fed Fedwire. So this is big. And the big reason is it just gives major, it's a major milestone for these crypto companies in the integration of TRADFI and crypto. And it signals institutional acceptance of crypto native financial institutions at its finest. So we're seeing, we're seeing the parent company ICE Intercontinental Exchange invest in OkX for live crypto data feeds and all of this more Tradfi going into crypto. We see Kraken now getting this master account with the Federal Reserve. This is just more institutional acceptance. This is just, I mean follow the breadcrumbs to like where this is could possibly go. If we were, if bitcoin or crypto was going to zero, I highly doubt that a lot of these, a lot of these things would be taking place right now. That's why it doesn't feel like past bear markets. FTX was freaking scary. Tom Brady lost all this money. He was all over the news. Like there was just a lot of things that hit home. Wow. Wow. Like this is a scam now. This is, it's different. This bear market's a little different because we have this. People are acknowledging crypto. Major people, not, not me. Major institutional players are acknowledging crypto as a, an asset class, as a big part of investments in the future. That's why it kind of sucks that we're in this bear market. But this is what's happening. There's a lot of reasons for the market we're in right now. But once we get some positive news, just again, follow the breadcrumbs where this is all going. This is, this is a big institutional acceptance of a crypto company.
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Host
Couldn't agree more. And friend in the comments, Cooper Jr. 4298 is saying integration is important, but we're dancing with the devil. We most certainly are. But that's, that's growth. I mean if, again if you want the mass adoption and we've talked about this on the show over the years is like, hey, you know, it's, we want the sovereignty and we want to be our own little cult. But you know, if, if you want number go up and you want bitcoin to, you know, one day, you know, get up to the gold market cap level, like these are the integrations and the acceptances that you have to have. And it's getting to the point where I mean, geez, Jamie Crypto diamond is, is crying. I mean he's like, he's saying, hey, if you want to be a bank, be a bank. It's like, okay, well we'll just, you know, get the backdoor access from the Fed and we'll do this and we'll do that. So let's, let's listen to. It's all ties together, I think. Let's listen to Jamie Crypto Diamond. Continuing his pouting, if you will, you
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Cynthia Loomis
and your peers have reportedly clashed with Coinbase's Brian Armstrong over the Clarity act and specifically this idea of crypto exchan offering rewards for stablecoins. And Armstrong was on CNBC with Sarah Eisen a few weeks ago from Mar a Lago. And he said there's a path forward for the market structure. Bill, that's a win, win outcome for everyone. How are you feeling about it right now?
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Jamie Crypto Diamond
The banks feel strongly that there should be rewards are the same as interest and that, you know, compromise would be that you could pay rewards on transactions, not balances. If you are going to be holding balances and paying interest as the bank should be regulated by a bank. So we've been firm one thing over here. Yes, but if you want to be a bank, become a bank, then you can do whatever you want under bank law. So I remind people, your viewers may not know banks have restrictions and requirements. FDIC insurance, aml, bsa. We have Community Responsibility act, which means we have to open 25% of our neighborhood with social requirements. We have liquidity requirements, capital requirements, transparency requirements, reporting requirements, board requirements, governments requirements. If they want to be a bank, so be it. So what we base is level playing field by products. It can't be. You have these people doing one thing, you know, without any regulation like that, and these people do another. And if you do do that, the public will pay it. It will get bad. So I just. People should take a deep breath. What does he want to. And we want competition. You know, we're actually one of the biggest users of blockchain and you know,
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Host
and we love the blockchain. We love it. We love the. Nobody uses blockchain more than us. Don't, don't let them, don't let them do it. We can do it.
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Brian
The public will pay. Literally. He, he's going a little off the rails there. I mean, it's.
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Host
I.
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Brian
The question definitely I thought about this, I did a market update on it as well, that it does feel like we're a little farther from getting this Clarity act sign than I, I felt like maybe a week or two ago, especially when I saw Brian Armstrong's like, hey, win win scenario. The more I think about it, there's probably not a win win here either. The banks are going to lose because they do not want people earning yield on holding crypto and crypto companies like Coinbase, our whole business is on paying people to hold crypto and giving them yield. Now it is a very interesting break here. And right when he brought that up, he went off the rails a little bit. He literally used the public will pay. And if Coinbase wants to become A bank. It wants to become a bank. So Jamie Dimon, what do we know? He's the most powerful banker in the world. And other bankers listen to what Jamie Dimon said. They're not going to push back. So that indicates to me that we're probably a little bit farther along than we think with the bankers really conceding to holding crypto and getting paid on yield. I am a big fan of holding crypto and getting the full amount of yield. And then we even had Trump. So this was like Monday, then Tuesday or Tuesday, Brian Armstrong and some crypto lobbyists actually go to the White House, rub shoulders with Trump, talk it up a little bit, and all of a sudden, Trump hits truth social media and the White House tweets it out. Basically, Trump throws banks under the bus. And he's just saying, like, they, you know, just definitely sides with the crypto side of things. Yeah, super producer, TiVo, thank you so much for bringing it up. And just talks about how important it is to embrace. Embrace the crypto side of things. So at one point, this is great because we have the most powerful man in the world pretty much siding with the side we want him to be on. But then part of me, then the pessimistic side of me is like, all right, like, we got Jamie Dimon going off the rails. Does not sound like a guy that's close to Inc. In a market structure or clarity act Bill. And then Armstrong goes and talks to Trump, and Trump's like, starts tweeting out. I feel like if it was, like, really close Trump. I mean, Trump will tweet about anything, but I don't think he's probably gonna send this tweet out to kind of like, you know, it's worked in the past. He's egged people on. He's got people moving. But there was a great. Saunders Sanders, I believe he works for Decrypt. He's a White House correspondent. I. I read some of his tweets and articles. He had some really awesome breakdowns about this and about how it's really important for the White House. And they kind of put a soft deadline of March 1st to get this deal inked. And that's why we're starting to see at the beginning of March, a lot of people starting to bring it up. Brian Armstrong going to talk to Trump. Trump sending out this tweet because the White House wants this deal done. They want it done in the spring. Because what happens, what comes, come May, we have midterms and Congress halts, like, they're looking for their own funding. They're not as concerned with some of these things. Like, things slow down. So the White House wants to get this done in the spring. Not to say this isn't going to get done. I think the Clarity Act's going to certainly get done. I think there's a strong path. But with Jamie Dimon's reaction and then Trump tweeting this out, it does feel like we're a little farther apart than what I was hoping for. I would love to know your take or the chat's take, but that's my gut reaction.
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Host
Yeah, let's shout out to the chat, man. Super active on a Friday. And I know it's not fun when we're not printing green candles and all that stuff, but I hope you're sucking in the hopium with us on this Friday and you're just enjoying being here. Chat's super active. What do you guys think of all this? Is the Clarity act gonna pass this year and fire off some takes? We'll read them. My take is I do. I. I don't know, man. Until, until Poly Market really gets one wrong on a big scale, it's hard to fade. It's hard to fade when they've been. It's really, really hard to fade. And again, it'll change.
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Brian
It'll.
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Host
It changes. But like right now, it's like you're leaning towards this getting past and it almost, when Jamie Dimon loses his cool a little bit on live tv, it almost feels like he's not getting his way. So is there progress being made? And there's tons of pushback. Obviously that's with the Trump tweet that we have up is like there's pushback both ways. But you know, Trump wants this to be a win. Is like I, it's like obviously he wants it to be a win for the quote unquote crypto people. But again, we always say the mass adoption is people using crypto Rails that don't know what they're using, that don't know that they're using crypto. And if there's a way for people to get these high yield savings account and clip 2, 3, 4, 5% compared to what the banks are offering now, which is pennies on the, on the thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars that they're. They're making money on, is. Is good for the average American to, to get that income and share that income a little bit. Because again, the banks take your $100,000, give you 3 cents, but then they'll they'll, they'll sell you a loan with your own money back to you for 7% plus all the fees. So it's like we're. That's kind of, I think what this debate is a little bit about is give access to the, you know, some, some yield. And what I found really interesting, I saw that there was a Wall Street Journal article. Had a, had an art. Sorry. A Wall Street Journal article about crypto based savings account has banks anxious. Avalon Brown of the Wall Street Journal getting a little bottom right corner there. Tucking it in underneath the tendies. Right pad. A little low on the ice. Not top shelf. It's not sexy. It's not a top shelf, it's not a dangle. This might be like a tip stick. Bottom right pad. Since we're. Everybody loves hockey now after the USA men and women's win gold. Interesting there. You might not be able to see it there in the middle. I'm trying to move my cursor, but
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Brian
it kind of is this newspaper looking at it. I mean this is like a newspaper. Did Mama Tebow cut this out and send it over? I mean it's a straight up newspaper,
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Host
but it's just showing you like, hey, the top 25 high yield savings average, you know, at 3, 4% versus, you know, the aver of what savings account, what the banks are offering, you know, half, basically half a half a point, you know, two basis points, if you will. That's when you know you're in finance and you're, you're cool when you say basis point by the way. Fun fact for all you. So it's just, it's interesting that there's a lot of momentum around this. I think, you know, when the Wall Street Journal starts talking about it and the President's talking about it and Jamie Dimon's losing is cool. I'm gonna say there's some interesting changes being done in the Clarity act. And you know, again, it's a Hopium episode, so suck it in. Yeah, I like it.
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Brian
I like it. I do. I mean he's obviously not happy and it's a great, it's a great take on the other side. And I think it's important that, you know, probably love it or hate it that Trump gets involved. And I like that he's siding on the crypto side more than the bank side because that would make everyone feel a little more. Banks are powerful, though. I mean, they have some powerful people. They've been around for thousands of years. They got some powerful people and we're Dealing with Jamie Dimon, who's the most powerful banker. But they have a, they also, on the other side of it, they have a very strong vested interest to make this work as well. Out with the new, out with the old, in with the new. And there's gonna be some changes, but I don't think banks are gonna lose as much power. But hey, I would like, I would like to earn yield on crypto. I hold like, what the heck, dude? Like, that's why, that's a big reason we're in crypto is because of the, the advantages it gives to the retail people. And I, I think people will respond. I, I hope Congress responds. I like that the White House is starting to kind of like back, back the crypto companies. But we, we definitely need to see a little bit bend of the knee. But I, I am not, I'm not on the side of like there's going to be like a clear win win. I would love to know someone that's smarter than me to map Feel like either banks are going to be pissed or the crypto companies are going to be pissed. One of the two. And the chat is just, it's unbelievable
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Host
right now. We're going over the chat right now. I thought, let's see, Andy, I think it will pass this year. I think it's teetering even if Trump has to make it past to take our minds off other stuff. Yeah, that's definitely seems, that's kind of what our take was, is like, hey, the crypto cohort was big for him for the election. I think, you know, there was many other facets. It wasn't the only thing. But, you know, midterms are coming and it's, it's looking tight again, I always say. I took one class of political science, so call me an expert. Let's see what else
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Brian
you passed.
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Host
CJEs these season Ds get degrees tinfoil hat take from CJE. Maybe, maybe we can get a tinfoil hat take on this beach front. The banks are toast. Let's see. David Murray B of A paying a half point on tying up 100k. Exactly. They better pass someone say base. Andy likes bass. Yeah. So again, everybody's kind of again, leaning towards the poly market. Leaning towards, you know, we're pro crypto here, so we want it to go through, but we want it to be constructive. I think that's something we said a couple weeks ago is like, hey, I don't want this thing to pass. And then we're going through it and it's like man, this is not. This is not good. And we're gonna have to be honest when that happens. Right? We gotta see what happens, see what's in the bill and break it down. So just moving on, a couple quick hitters before we get to the main event of the momentum. Money makers wins. And the fun stuff that we can talk about at the end of the show, just a couple quick bitcoin quick hitters here. I saw that the Indiana governor signs a bill into law that allows bitcoin to be invested into state retirement plans. I thought that was interesting. And then this one I just saw today square back in the news. We never really covered what they did last week, but this week, bitcoin specifically looks like they're. They're calling it a. A bounty to onboard new bitcoin merchants. Users can earn $25 in BTC for making their first ever bitcoin payment to a square seller who hasn't previously accepted BTC using the cash app. You, you know, again, 25. So I guess it's kind of a marketing campaign for. To get new people new, I guess, storefronts to accept and use cash app so they can get the. The payment rails and get their percentage points on that. So it's like maybe if you're, you know, know people that own these storefronts and you're a bitcoin person, you'll tell them about, hey, do you have square? And you accept cash app? Like, oh, like you turn on the bitcoin function and you know, I'll use it or something. So it's. I thought that was cool. It's going to last a month here. So if you can get, if you know people that are using cash app specifically to accept payments at a storefront, tell them to flip on the bitcoin. The bitcoin payment option. You can use it. You get $25 and then just buy it back the next day once you get the $25.
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Brian
Right.
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Host
A little free BTC. So I thought that was cool. Any, any. Any thoughts on that? Any thoughts on maybe. Maybe a nice little. Do you think this was rushed? Do you think this promo was rushed after what they did last week, firing like 30, 40% of their staff?
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Brian
Yeah, you could probably argue that it could have been a little bit rushed.
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Host
We need to argue that we need a promo, boys. We need a promo.
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Brian
Yeah, something.
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Host
Let's go to the main event. The chat wants it. They want the momentum money makers. They want some meme coin action. Where are the profits? Where are the wins? Guys? Brian's going to go over kind of what he does inside the community. You know, we're here for you on the podcast, we're here for you on the YouTube. But if you want more access to Brian, more access to Joe and the entire team, you get the first alerts, you get the newsletters, and you kind of get a real inside look into what they're thinking and what they're looking at. Again, it's not personal financial advice. It is education. And those first alerts go out and there have been some absolute winners. We're about to cover one right now. And, you know, when you attend the Lives, we like to give you a deal. So there's a dollar trial, if you're interested, to get more involved with the Crypt Nation community. And Brian and Joe just go down the description, $1 trial. Check it out. We'd love to have you in there. So let's move and give the people what they want. Brian, did you bring a winner for us today?
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Brian
Yeah, we can talk about, well, what we're talking about a lot in this momentum moneymakers world. We will talk about meme coins, if they're hot. We'll talk about NFTs, we'll talk about poly markets sometimes anywhere where there's like a lot of momentum and a lot of steam. And recently where we've seen a lot of momentum in probably most of our calls have come from this, like, AI crypto world. You know, we had this AI crypto run about a year ago and it fizzled out. But I if you're part of momentum money makers, you know that I think this AI crypto world and how it's going to integrate SK absolutely open the floodgates of. Because we say it all the time, AI agents or AI can't go down the street and create a bank account and utilize payment on your behalf, but they can get set up with a crypto wallet and fund it and do it. So it's get on board tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of crypto Wallets. The AI world is now paying attention to what's happening in crypto and it's just something what like us crypto people have wanted for so long is like AI to like look over at us. And they're doing it finally. So you're getting these AI investors or developers integrating and using crypto. So a lot of our calls have been very AI centric and one that's not a small market cap. It's not like one of these 1 million to $10 million winners. And that's why I wanted to talk about on the show today, because I'm pretty big fan of it. It's. It's called BVV and it's for short. It's Venice AI. Oh yeah, you can see it absolutely run. We called it at a $50 million market cap just a couple weeks ago. So pretty recently. So probably, probably right. It was in February, I believe, so somewhere right around $50 million we called. Was certainly right around there, but right before these giant candles and because we like a lot of the things behind it and I, I encourage everyone to kind of check this out now it's, it's up, you know, at least the 5X. It got all the way up to like 350 or 320 at one point. So always when you see candles, just God, candles like that go straight up, I always recommend that you pull out your initials and you pull out profit because typically there's going to be some retracement and we're seeing a little bit of it, but there's been some big movements here. So VVV is Venice AI and it's a decentralized AI platform that was founded by an individual named Eric Voorhees, who's well known in the AI world, the crypto world, an entrepreneur, just a strong voice out there. And the platform really aimed with private, uncensored AI tools like Texes, images, code generation. So every time we put our information into ChatGPT or Gemini or, or Claude or whatever it is, it's like stored in some centralized database. Like, like, I don't worry about it too much, but I know like Joe won't like put pictures on there of like his family because he's like, I don't want the like people having it. So as crypto native people, we, we do like privacy. So this kind of does it all. And it was, that's why we called it as a winner and it took off. And then Open Claw is kind of the new hot AI topic in the Claude bot. And they Started utilizing Venice as some infrastructure and recently got some news. Maybe that's not all what they' but regardless this VVV tokens absolutely ran and I think there's a case that it could go higher. Do I think it corrects? Sure. Like, you know, think volatility is the name of the game, especially in lower market caps. But this is one with a really strong founder, a really strong story in the time when we're talking about meta with AI and crypto. And then I do think privacy coins and privacy in particular is going to be really important with meta or not meta with AI. I think AI these agents, I think AI developers are going to want some sort of like privacy around their tokens and if that's like, you know, it doesn't have to be a completely like private sector coin, but I think privacy is going to be kind of. It's already been a big part of talking points. So this kind of checks the belt, it checks the boxes for a lot of privacy. AI strong founder and that's why we called it 50 million. And since then we've actually called some smaller tokens like the Felix agent. People can check that out. Juno. These are actual AI agents that have been given. They're autonomous AI agents, so they have each human that developed them, they gave them wallets and I think Felix Today has made $90,000 in revenue over the past couple weeks just selling products and services. It's pretty wild. So of course they have their own token and the price goes up when you make 90,000 in revenue. Heck, they're making more. Yeah, type in Felix.
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Host
Heck.
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Brian
Yeah, that's it right there. Yeah, should be, yeah. Three million dollar market cap. Yeah, so we called it right around a million or two I think, and it ran all the way to five or six around the same time. And then, you know, it's corrected. But this is, this is an actual autonomous AI agent, has human developer behind it, but it's making revenue early on. Coins. Not saying for people to just go out and just start buying any AI agent or Felix or anything along those lines. But that's, that's kind of my rant on why the, the world of AI and crypto is so interesting and we're seeing it make a completely new form and it's the rabbit hole I'm living in right now.
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Host
Yeah, that's a fact. And if you want to hop in the rabbit hole or the trenches as we like to call it with Brian and Joe and get access first alerts to these calls, again, I think that was like a 5X. This was a 3 or 2 or 3X. We had, you know, we talked about Punch the Monkey. That was a podcast call, funny enough, but that, you know, it's a fun community. And if there's anybody in here that is in the community, let people know in the comments what you think. But if you want to get a trial, dollar trial in the description, check it out. And again, none of this is personal financial advice. Be careful of these specific calls. Like Brian said, they've already kind of ripped to the upside. And as we say, you got to be aware of that hockey stick, but you want to get the calls early that you got to be in the community. So check out the link below, something that we talk about a lot. We. So we have to cover it here. Pudgy Penguin under fire. Brian, we hate to see that for our. A cute, lovable little friend. But it looks like they're getting sued for some trademark infringement. Infringement. The consensus online is this is kind of B.S. a bogus suit. They're probably just seeing all the success that Budgie Penguins having and trying to. Trying to. To wet the beak, if you will. Pun intended. Any thoughts around this?
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Brian
Yeah, I do have some thoughts. I feel like it's. It's pretty bogus, to be honest with you. It's. They're.
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Cynthia Loomis
They're.
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Brian
They're suing them for trademark infringement. You look at the logos between Pudgy Penguins logo and the penguin apparel logo. I personally think they look nothing alike. I don't think their apparel looks good at all. Apparently, it's saying some bad audio. Can you hear me on my end there?
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Host
I hear you fine.
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Brian
Yeah, I feel my mic looks good. Just.
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Host
Yeah, maybe it could be. It could be a YouTube connection issue. Cayman's texting me. Okay, I hear you guys. Fine. But some people are saying bad audio, so it might be just a YouTube issue. So we'll continue on.
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Brian
Yeah, yeah, it looks good on my end. So I keep talking about. But yeah, I. I'm not overly concerned about this lawsuit. Now. The thing that sucks is that Pudgy Penguins is in a lawsuit. You know, it's probably gonna bring a few more eyeballs to the project, but they're gonna have to probably pay for some legal fees. They're gonna have to, you know, go through this a little bit more and more often, but I don't think they look anything alike. I don't know. Do you have, like, years ago, like, whenever I was, like, shopping 20 years ago at, like, Abercrombie and Fitch and Hollister. I think I own, like, a penguin apparel. I don't even know. I didn't even know they still existed. So.
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Jamie Crypto Diamond
Yeah.
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Host
What would I search to pull up that logo?
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Brian
Maybe Pei, I think Pei. Penguin. Penguin.
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Host
Penguin logo Apparel.
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Brian
Penguin apparel. Penguin apparel. It's like a little, like. Yeah, I got. I got. It's like a little outline of it. I don't know. It looks.
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Host
I think I got it. Is it this guy?
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Brian
Yeah, man. And then the one right next to it, the penguin apparel. I don't know. Like, how is that the same as the Pudgy Penguins? Unless I'm to.
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Host
It's not even close.
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Brian
Unless I'm totally missing something. All I see here is that two companies that have penguins as their flagship mascot have clothes, and they look nothing alike. So I'm. I'm not overly concerned about it. Long story short.
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Host
Yeah, there's the side. Side by side for everybody. I mean,
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Brian
this is.
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Host
This is hilarious.
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Brian
This guy. What? This guy. I don't know who he is, but we need to get him on a podcast.
- [47:01]
Host
That is hilarious. That's hilarious.
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Brian
I mean, it feels like a bogus suit now. I. I would be sweating some bullets anytime. I. I haven't been in a lawsuit, but if I'm in a weird lawsuit, nobody wants to be in a lawsuit. Time, money, just anxiety. But from like, a Pengu token or, like, is Luca sweating this? I don't think so. And someone wrote in the comments. Nope. No. Publicity is bad publicity, and that's probably true.
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Host
I'm loving the appeal when people tag rock. I like looking at that stuff. I think it's fun.
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Brian
Yeah, it's so good.
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Host
I agree. I don't. I don't think this is. Yeah. You just got to worry about what's the legal tie up. But, you know, the P.E.I. licensing guy, they're probably on the downfall, like, grasping at straws. So my guess is they'd run out of money first, hopefully. And this thing gets brushed under the rug by the courts quickly. So not too worried about it. A little Magic Eden update. Pulling. Pulling the plug on Bitcoin and Ethereum support. Magic Eden doubling down on Solana.
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Brian
Yeah, I had to put this in just anybody had. I still have some NFTs. I still have some Bitcoin NFTs. I still obviously have a lot of Ethereum NFTs and Magic Eden, man. Like, a year or two ago, they were like the go to place for NFTs. They were getting a smooth interface, and now they're just like, hey, we're pulling the plug. We're going back to our roots with Solana. I'm sure they'll be successful. I know they've had some works with building out a few different products, but just wanted to make a call out anybody with those Bitcoin ordinals or Ethereum. There's other marketplaces out there, but it looks like Magic Eden is not going to be that one stop shop anymore. And you know, probably given. Probably OpenSea is probably pretty happy about that, I'd imagine.
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Host
Yeah, we've had Magic Eden Opensea on the pod. Always trying to keep you guys updated with the roadmaps. I think you've, I've had you interview them once or twice if I'm not mistaken. But you know, you just got to figure out what the roadmaps are, what works for them and we'll be the first ones to bring it to you. Some Pump Fun news. We haven't talked about Pump Fun in a while.
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Brian
Yeah, Pump Fun. What the heck? I'm gonna have to look at the token really quickly because that's like one of those apps that I was talking about. Yeah, it's just down right now. It's down. But man, it's, it's one of those apps out there that I think's doing some really interesting things always and it seems to just squash the competition. But they're bringing on non native assets so users increasingly want to trade and hold more without having to leave the, leave the app. So anything that's not derived on Pump Fun or a Pump Token you couldn't utilize on their, on their platform. So they're opening it up to the world and they should, it's, it's going to be better for their product overall. Just a call out there for the community.
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Host
Yeah, a lot, A lot to keep track. Pump Fun had that. Man. I'll never forget that release video they did that looked like everybody was on, you know, mushrooms or something. That was wild when they did drop. Yeah, very, very creative. Very fun. That's it. Let's open. We'll open the comments for questions on a Friday. Any questions for Brian, any questions for me? And then we can just spitball kind of this AI agent economy a little bit. There were some notes that Brian put in that he wanted to talk about. Not necessarily crypto specific, but at least in our eyes where we see the puck going is, is these crypto rails are going to merge with the AI rails. Kind of like you talked about with Felix. Right. Like that's where this is going at the end of the Day. We've always kind of viewed ourselves as futurists, if you will, being involved in bitcoin and crypto so early. And the AI and these AI agents are the next round of that. So it's something interesting to talk about. We got a couple of minutes left, so where would you like to take it, Brian? And then if you get any questions in the chat, we'll answer those as well.
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Brian
Yeah, I'm going to Spitfire a little bit more about this AI agent economy. I know Joe is heavily involved with it as well, something we talk about and it just looks like that's where the momentum is and it, it excites us because it makes a lot of sense and not just like these straight agents, just the complete integration of AI and crypto. I think it's really going to be interesting. And I so not like open AI just released a new Chat GPT version which I found is surprisingly strong. I don't know if you used chat GPT's 5.4, but it, yeah, I actually message came in a couple of the boys in slack yesterday. This 5.4 chat GPTs pretty strong and I was messing around with Claude for some time and I, I, this new update was, was pretty good. It was pretty good. And just some of the things I took back is I loved how it could recall a lot of my, if I open a new conversation, it could recall past conversations. It would always get real squirrely on me and I like would yell at it and stuff and call it a clanker. And now it was like really sharp yesterday. So I'm, I'm excited to see how they're building it out. But it seems like everybody is accepting that these chat bots are part of everyday life. I mean you, you have to use them more and more often. Do you use like Chat GPT or Gemini or Claude or what, what, what's your go to, to look into something?
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Host
Yeah, I'd really would like to get in on the Claude. I mean this is Claude bot. It's like live by the claw, die by the claw. Haven't jumped into the anthropic tank yet, but I've seen nothing but tweets and stuff about it. So I don't know if the team is working on a subscription. We have a team subscription. I might have to dial up my own. But yeah, I enjoy Chat GPT. I, I, as the media guy, I really dove, dove into the media side of it and we talked about the thumbnails. I mean the thumbnails went from, you know, a two to two day delivery and you know, a cost to, you know, 95 less for me to make it my own in, in 10 minutes. So that was interesting. The video, the video software is just going at such a fast pace. I made some. I've just been fooling around with it, trying to make, whether it's memes or different like ad type content and just playing around with it because I, you know, my background is, you know, as a producer, director and whatever, making stuff, that's kind of my passion. So I've been playing around with it, man, and it's, it's pretty wild what you can do. I think the interesting thing is you kind of definitely still need the skill set of an editor to piece it together. I think that's. I'm trying to figure out how I can get a full flow of like whether it's a cloud bot or chat GPT to be like, hey, here's what I want to do. Can you go execute it through multiple agents? That's definitely where the next multimillionaires are going to be made. People that can implement these systems into businesses. You're going to start seeing single company unicorns, maybe like these people that can develop these systems and then implement them into businesses. It's super, super interesting. I, I definitely have, I wouldn't say mastered anything yet, but I'm getting, I'm getting good, I'm getting good at getting it into my workflow. But there's the, the agents that can do the work in the background. I'm definitely stuck at the point where like, all right, I'm gonna interact and it's gonna speed up my workflow. I haven't gotten to the point yet where I can build something in the background and it just kind of runs on its own. Have you gotten to that point yet?
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Brian
Yeah, I've messed around with it, with it quite a bit. And you bring up anthropic. I just wanted to mention this because I don't know if we talked about this on a rundown or not, but like Trump called them a supply chain risk and wanted them to give a bunch of information over and their CEO kind of went off the rails. Dario. And then he actually apologized to the Department of War today in a big anthropic. I did, yeah. Yeah. Because like, they like, were kind of like if you did, you couldn't do business with the US Government if you did business with Anthropic. So there's some back and forth going on in the government's trying to figure out, you know, A lot of things. The we as people are. And he even. I put it in here. Anthropic CEO says, actually another about this. Claude may have consciousness. Anthropic CEO says may or may not have gained consciousness. I don't know how, how true that is, but he said the model has been, has been showing signs of symptoms of anxiety. So I, I, I certainly am going to probably steer away from calling my chat bot a clanker and yelling at it whenever.
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Host
Yeah, Bad information. I saw that. I said, welcome to the world, young Claude. Welcome to world. Have some, have some anxiety with the rest of us. Yeah, the anthropic thing was interesting because there was, like, the fallout that he wouldn't sign or not he. But the company wouldn't sign. It was like mass surveillance on Americans and unmanned warfare. You know, the, the, the specifics of that probably go really deep, but they wouldn't. They're like, oh, take this clause out, right? And the Department of War was like, no, sign this or you're not going to get the contract. So then they refuse to sign it out of, you know, morals. They're like, hey, we're trying to build the guardrails of, like, the moral compass for these things, and we don't think this is where we should go. They. They don't sign it. There's big news. Like, oh, they're, you know, the government is, is disbanding the contract with Anthropic. And then I'll never forget this. I saw it on the morning. It was like, Sam Altman was doing, like, a press round. He was like, yeah, well, you know, it's, you know, I, you know, Anthropic and Dario is, is a great CEO, and, you know, I don't know the details, but I'm sure if, you know, whatever he chose is, you know, he's trying to build the, the best and the right thing for the future and harmony and, you know, blah, blah, blah. He was, like, basically saying, like, giving Dario a vote of confidence. And then literally, like, 36 hours later, OpenAI signed the contract. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's like, I think Sam Altman might be one of the best fundraisers of all time, but, like, man, I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I can throw him.
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Brian
Gives me weird vibes, man.
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Host
I don't want to say that because it's such a cool product and it's such a cool industry, and you don't. You want to, like, really root for people that are building the future of the world. But he gives a weird. He gives a weird vibe. His Joe Rogan interview was the first long form interview I ever listened to him. And he was. He was pretty odd there too.
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Brian
I know. I didn't watch it. I watched Joe Rogan here and then I didn't. I have to check it out. But he give. You know who else gave me weird vibes early on? And this is like, no, duh. Is Sam Bankman fried like sbf? I never opened FTX account because I didn't like the way, like, he acted for some reason, nothing they said. And then, you know, he pulled that whole FTX debacle and I was like, I knew it. I knew it. Now, I don't want that to happen to Sam Altman in OpenAI. Please, we don't need that.
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Host
Originally there was a lawsuit with Elon too, right? It was like a nonprofit. And now Sam's driving her. It has like a $200 million car collection. So it's like, it's hard to see where the. Where it's going. Any. We got some questions in the chat. We'll get to them beachfront. We'll get to your question in a minute after we wrap up the AI talk. I saw this. State of New York wants to ban chatbots to eliminate lawyer and medical questions. Interesting. Yeah, man, this thing's just going so fast. So again, we're crypto specific here, but we think that this is the future and it's something we're monitoring. So, you know, again, it's something. If you like the conversation, leave us a comment. We can do more AI news. You know, Brian and I throw off ideas of creating different types of content all the time. So if you like this stuff, maybe we can make some different videos on it. Just let us know in the comments. Let's see. We got a question here about Brian's group. Brian and Joe's group. Are they meant to buy those meme coins? Get 2 to 3x and then get your money out? Again, we do not give personal financial advice, just educational nature. And these alerts are saying, hey, this is what we're looking at for possible potential trades. And you got to do your own risk management. Again, you know, I think Brian said it earlier. It's like, hey, you know, you get that 2, 3, 4, 5x. You know, you better. Usually he likes to take some off the top, but any. How do you look at that, Brian, for, you know, when you do make a great call, you know, how do you look at that?
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Brian
Yeah, we have a pretty good track record. I mean they all won't be winners because, you know, you don't know the future. But where we go is we try to follow where the momentum is, where all the hype is. And it's like perfect for times like this when we're just like stuck in this choppy channel of crypto majors. It's a little different. Like when we're just ripping on the high side and you can throw your money into any alt and it goes up. We're really just trying to, you know, where the puck goes, that's where we're going. And we can catch these winners somewhat early typically because we're seeing where the momentum is, where the crowds are going. And we try to do a lot of the research for everyone and then give it to you in a very digestible format, like 5, 10 minutes on like why we like the token. What, what, who's maybe backing it, what the plan they're trying to solve is just do a lot of the due diligence for people and you have to kind of do some work on your end, but you nailed it. We'll catch these big winners and we, we typically have quite a few and whenever they happen I always pull my profits out and usually take some profit. And then I ride that free roll. I love the free roll, man. Like there's nothing better now I have some dusty wallets with some, you know, free rolled money that just unfortunately went to zero and but I'm like, all right, well it is what it is, but they can usually come back. But we could talk about meme coins because they're hot and there's a punch the monkey or something coming out like that. And that's where attention is or AI and AI agents. I think this AI agent meta is going to be huge and how it's going to develop is something that we're evaluating every day. And it honestly changes as I'm recording my newsletter sometimes like, like things are changing in front of me. So that's why we try to stay up on it and give everyone just, you know, some advice. And we also talk about the, the majors and macro as well. You can't do what we do if we don't understand like what's going on in you know, Bitcoin and Ethereum and Solana in those big rails. So we try to give you a little bit of everything and we're always open to it if people want to hear more about like certain aspects of the some. I've done newsletters where I'm just like, hey, Poly market. They're coming out with a poly token. This is how or or Kalshi. This is the new crypto guy. I think they could be given an airdrop one day and kind of just give my two cents and we kind of go where the momentum is. And right now it's an AI agents.
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Host
Couldn't agree more. And it's just a super fun kind of community too because you're again, you're riding. You're just riding together in the trenches and you're finding big winners and you're letting things roll. And again it's the, the ups and downs of. Of market and trading on. On steroids. And it's fun because you're really kind of parsing through the, the different spaces of the Internet. Whether it's AI agents or the culture of the memes and all that stuff. It's really fun. And it again, it pairs well perfectly with Cryp Nation and Cryp Nation VIP and kind of the macro and then you have Bren technical analysis and trading. That's why our team is so good because we have so many different expertises. A couple people in the comments were looking for. Let's see the Habish and David, we're looking for CC Canton Network. CC just went live on Robinhood I believe yesterday. And also we had a couple podcasts go live around Canton Network as well. I just posted one on YouTube yesterday. So if you go to the video section after this 2026 Altcoins to watch Canton Network, it actually out of the gate is doing really well. You know, 600 plus views in the first day, which is great.
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Brian
Hell of a token. Hell of a token, man.
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Host
People love it. So you want to, you definitely want to go check out that video. But any, any thoughts before they go watch the video?
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Brian
Yeah, I mean they're a layer one blockchain designed for banks and financial institutions. And you know, they're, they're really focused on tokenizing real world assets like bonds, treasuries, funds. They're really merging the institutional blockchain for tradfi and tokenized assets. And I think this is another area of huge growth. Privacy coins RWAs AI all of this has some really unique opportunities to pop off. And in Canton I guess we argue that's certainly an altcoin, you know and we were kind of like some altcoins suck. Canton doesn't fall into that category for me. And I kind of bash on L1s. Like too many L1s. I feel like they're. But, but when they have specific use cases in like they're backed by major institutions like Goldman Sachs and CBOE and just Microsoft. They have some major backers. So it doesn't feel like they're going anywhere anytime soon. So Canton, check out the podcast. I didn't listen to it yet, but I'll probably listen to it this weekend where I'm look smacks and get the gym with you.
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Host
I love it. No, it's definitely, definitely was a great pod. Worth the listen. And you get to hear from Brendan who's been, you know, working hard behind the scenes and that's why we've had me and you kind of tag team the last couple of rundowns because he's been behind the scenes grinding it out with the new cohort of the trading bull run that started this week. So I'll leave you with this again. But yeah, we were saying like hey, all coins are down to FTX levels and we, we, we look at this sometimes Google Trends and again people said that Google trends were dead, were dead. But hey, we hit, we still within the last year we hit 100 on the altcoin measure back in July. And so as you can see, absolutely down in the dumps now getting as low as a five, now at a seven, but we got to a hundred. And to to think that again goes back to that quote of retail will be back. And I, I do truly believe that. And there's altcoins to be had and there's winners to be had but you got to know where to look and you got to know where to educate. And I think what this last cycle told us, I want to get your point on this because you're my expert, but I think what the last cycle told us is and we've had some pops in the dinosaur coins but just because past performance in an altcoin doesn't guarantee future performance as well, there's no guarantee of getting back to that all time high. And that goes to the fact of how this technology is moving so fast, whether it's AI or just crypto rails in general. There's all these new projects and all these new flashy things AI agents, altcoins, stocks around all this futuristic type of things that we're building that it's, you do need the education. Right? It's hard to parse through on your own. And we try to really do our best through the YouTube, through the podcast which we appreciate you listening to to bring the information to you. But again, if you want more, more access to Brian, more access to Bryce, Brendan and The whole entire research team. Check the links below. We got a lot of great folks, fun educational programs, and we have a great community. And again, we know the market's down, but if you build, builders build, and when you build in, in the downturn, you get reap the rewards of the upturn. So do you kind of agree with that sentiment of, you know, it. It's. You can't just buy what worked in 2018 and wait, yeah, yeah, Joe and
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Brian
I talk about that quite a bit. That, you know, our timeline horizon on certain, Certain opportunities are. Are certainly a little tighter right now. But it's. I don't know, we, I, I'm. I drink the Kool Aid with what we do here. I really do. We show up every single day. We're big believers in it. It's not just from Hopium, even though, you know, I'll be sucking the Hopium till the day I die. We have real fundamental and ta Analysis. Analysis here of why we believe the cryptocurrency sector is going to grow, why blockchain is going to grow. And I think everybody on our team, all the analysts have, like, a little bit different vibe and take to how they approach it. But what we always seem to land on is, like, very similar points of views, you know, very similar tokens that we like. When we talk about tokens that we all want to, like, break down, we're, like, fighting over the same tokens for good reason. And, and this is. I say it all the time. This is the time to be really paying attention, because it's not, like, super fun, but builders build right now. And this is when, like, you can really, like, see where the big partnerships are going, where the big opportunities are going, what cryptos are actually making money. Because if they're doing okay now, man, when we're in that, like, euphoric bull run, when it's just everything's up, only those are gonna be the real winners. Yeah.
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Host
And a great note to end on from the great Habish. How can you be down with a perma bull on the screen? The perma bulls, Brian. We have perma bulls, Steve. Oh, having a lot of fun here on a Friday. We really, truly appreciate everybody tuning in. We really couldn't do this without you. But that's going to be all for us today. We're gonna wrap up. Like I said. I think Brendan's busy. We've got, you know, the team's just kind of really grinding. There's a lot going on that's excited about, but Brian stepped up I was actually going to tell you this offline, but I just appreciate you being my content workhorse. Between the summit that we're preparing for, we'll promote that next week and just doing these podcasts with me. I really enjoyed doing it with you and I thank you for your time. But happy Friday to everybody. We will be back next week with some more rundowns, some more podcast episodes, the Robin Hood episode coming out Tuesday. Get excited for that and we just really appreciate your time. Hope everybody enjoys the weekend and that's all for us. Bye bye everybody.
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