CRYPTO 101 Podcast Episode 667: How Ethereum & Solana BOTH Will Build the RWA Ecosystem for TradFi
Release Date: July 19, 2025
Hosts: Bryce Paul & Brendan Viehman
Guest: Marcin Kazmier, Co-founder of Redstone
1. Introduction to Redstone and Its Mission
In Episode 667 of CRYPTO 101, hosts Bryce Paul and Brendan Viehman welcome back a familiar guest, Marcin Kazmier, co-founder of Redstone (01:24). Redstone is positioned as a pivotal player in the crypto infrastructure landscape, primarily focusing on delivering reliable and secure data feeds through its Oracle platform. Marcin shares that Redstone was established with the vision to become the most scalable Oracle platform, supporting thousands of blockchains and an almost infinite number of assets (02:52).
Key Quote:
“We started Redstone to create the most scalable and builder useful Oracle platform out there, delivering reliable, secure and diversified data feeds.” – Marcin Kazmier (02:52)
2. The Inner Workings of Redstone
Brendan probes into how Redstone operates behind the scenes, emphasizing its role as the "connective tissue" within the DeFi ecosystem (05:17). Marcin elaborates that Redstone ensures security and accurate pricing across various DeFi protocols, preventing wrongful liquidations and maintaining market stability.
Redstone has introduced its native token, RET, launched on March 6, 2025, which allows users to stake and secure the Redstone ecosystem (06:46). Additionally, Marcin provides a live demonstration of Redstone's user-facing platform, app.redstone.finance, showcasing their extensive data feeds in both push and pull models. The push model actively sends data updates to destination blockchains based on specific conditions like deviation thresholds and time intervals (07:05).
Notable Insight:
Redstone's architecture allows users to manually update data feeds via MetaMask, providing an additional layer of trust and customization (10:30).
3. Redstone vs. Chainlink: A Comparative Analysis
The conversation shifts to comparing Redstone with Chainlink, a prominent Oracle provider. Marcin highlights Redstone's flexibility, noting that unlike Chainlink's decentralized Oracle Network, Redstone allows users to configure backup systems and set personalized deviation thresholds (12:09).
Key Quote:
“Redstone has never ever had a single hiccup in a sense of mispricing event downtime or not delivering according to those parameters.” – Marcin Kazmier (12:09)
Brendan draws an analogy to "Chainlink 2.0," suggesting that Redstone serves as a robust alternative by ensuring data integrity and offering customizable solutions (11:44). Marcin agrees, emphasizing the importance of preparing for unforeseen "black swan" events with a resilient infrastructure (13:32).
4. Redstone's Role in Real World Assets (RWA) and Tokenization
A significant portion of the discussion centers around Redstone's involvement in Real World Assets (RWA) and tokenization. Marcin reveals that Securitize, the leading tokenization platform, has selected Redstone as its primary Oracle for major funds like BlackRock, Biddle, Hamilton, Lanescope, and Apollo Accreditations (14:28).
Notable Insight:
Tokenizing real-world assets like T-bills requires accurate and timely price feeds to reflect real-time accruals and market values. Redstone ensures these feeds are delivered reliably to various blockchains, facilitating seamless integration with DeFi protocols (15:47).
Key Quote:
“What Securitize does is they do a token representation on chain of a specific asset... And we deliver the current price of acre on chain and then on those markets.” – Marcin Kazmier (15:47)
5. Partnerships with Major Financial Institutions
Brendan delves into Redstone's partnership with BlackRock, the world's largest asset manager, and how this collaboration signifies the growing interest of traditional finance (TradFi) institutions in the crypto space (19:36). Marcin discusses how Redstone has been actively engaging with other major financial institutions, helping bridge the gap between traditional finance and decentralized systems.
Key Quote:
“Vast majority of those big players are already in talks and... every week I have call with a new institution trying to understand where they are in the cycle.” – Marcin Kazmier (25:27)
6. Ethereum vs. Solana in Building the RWA Ecosystem
A critical segment compares Ethereum and Solana regarding their suitability for developing the RWA ecosystem. Brendan and Bryce share their perspectives on both blockchains, highlighting Ethereum's superior security and Solana's scalability and user experience (27:07).
Marcin provides a nuanced view, acknowledging Ethereum's resilience and preference among large institutions while recognizing Solana's rapid development and momentum in consumer adoption (29:35). He emphasizes that both blockchains have their unique strengths, making them complementary rather than direct competitors in the RWA space.
Key Quote:
"Ethereum is like Gucci and Solana is Walmart... there is no one's horrible one's, you know, amazing. I see them being both significant players in the same way." – Brendan Viehman (29:35)
7. Maximizing Opportunities in the RWA and Tokenization Space
Towards the end of the episode, Marcin offers actionable advice for everyday investors aiming to capitalize on the burgeoning RWA and tokenization trends. He recommends starting with yield-bearing stablecoins and gradually exploring tokenized private credit funds like Acred (ACRED) and Sacred (SA) on platforms like Solana (35:26).
Notable Insight:
By leveraging Redstone's reliable data feeds, investors can engage in sophisticated DeFi strategies that bridge traditional finance with blockchain technology, thereby enhancing yield opportunities while managing risks effectively (36:59).
8. Future Developments: Redstone Bolt and Beyond
Marcin concludes by highlighting Redstone's upcoming innovations, particularly Redstone Bolt, touted as the fastest Oracle on the market. Bolt promises ultra-low latency data delivery, enabling high-frequency trading and advanced algorithmic strategies akin to those found in traditional finance (49:11).
Key Quote:
“We deliver price feed to Mega eve specifically on testnet every 2.4 milliseconds. And to give you perspective, one second has thousand milliseconds so we update more frequent than 400 updates a second.” – Marcin Kazmier (49:11)
Marcin also encourages listeners to follow Redstone on X (formerly Twitter) and through their official channels for ongoing updates and developments (45:43).
Conclusion
Episode 667 of CRYPTO 101 offers an in-depth exploration of how both Ethereum and Solana are instrumental in building the Real World Assets ecosystem within traditional finance. Through detailed discussions with Marcin Kazmier, listeners gain valuable insights into Redstone's pivotal role in ensuring data integrity, fostering partnerships with major financial institutions, and enabling innovative DeFi solutions. The episode underscores the synergistic potential of combining robust blockchain infrastructures with real-world financial assets, paving the way for a more integrated and efficient financial future.
For more information and to stay updated with Redstone's journey, follow Marcin on X and connect with RedstoneDeFi on their official platforms.