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2016: Michael Saylor Reveals How ANYONE Can Make $100 Million with Bitcoin
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Michael Saylor in a new interview with Natalie Brunell on the Coin Stories pod revealed how any average individual can make $100,000,000 with Bitcoin.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
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Natalie Brunell
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JV
Welcome Bitcoin fam to the number one bitcoin pod. Bitcoin pumping back in the green. Looking to retake 107 in today's share show. I'll be sharing the latest technical analysis. Also, Ricardo Salinas has recently been upgraded to the second richest man of Mexico. Thanks the bitcoin. Let's go. We'll also be discussing Michael Saylor teases a fresh bitcoin buy after 1 billion dollar stock offering. He also posted the infamous Sailor tracker so you know what to come in by tomorrow. We'll also be discussing tether CEO snubs IPO says 515 valuation is it's a little bit bearish. We'll also be discussing analysts unveils new all time high price target for this month. Baby send it. We'll also be discussing the bitcoin family revamps their security after the recent crypto crime wave. Also, Michael Sailor shares the most bullish speech of all time and ultimately says that anybody, including you, can make $100 million with Bitcoin. And he gives you the precise advice, I'll be breaking it down for you. We'll also be taking a look at the overall crypto market. All this plus so much more in today's show. Yo, what's good Crypto fam. This is first and foremost a video show. So if you want the full premium experience with video, visit my YouTube channel at cryptonewsalerts.net again that's crypto news alerts.net today is pod number 2016 I'm your host JV. That's my co host Nipinator, former chairman of the SEC. Today is June 8, 2025. Happy four hundred and twenty Brosis. And yeah, pretty little bitty back in the green. So let's break her down. And again. Welcome everyone. Join the live stream. Let's kick it off with our market watch as we do each and every day. Good to see everything back in the green. Bitcoin hovering above 1066 at the time of the live stream. Even ether back above 25 hundo. Even XRP got a warm piece of the sidewalk up 5% on the day and Zeus up 9%. I don't even know what coin Zeus is, but I know it's a Greek God. Correct me if I'm wrong there. And checking out coinmarketcap.com the current GYP crypto market cap back on the climb. 3.32 trillion. 2.1 trillion for the bitty market cap as far as volume is concerned. 84.19 billion worth of volume for the past 24 hours, down 6% on the day. Bitcoin dominance was back on the climb this week. It's a bit down today. 63.6%. Ether dominance 9.2%. Checking out top 100 crypto gainers past 24 hours. We got SPX up 12% followed by ICP. And I ain't talking about the Insane clown posse of 8 and a half percent followed by radium of 5%. Let me know which alts the fanny you're bullish on for the bull. Holla at your Nippon Eater. And checking out the crypto bubbles. We get a visual perspective on the day. I expect all this to light up like a Christmas tree and lo and behold, we got a Christmas tree right on your screen. 95%. At least 90% of the market in the green on the day. And zooming out for the weekly. The weekly shows us not as advantageous as the daily. I'd say 7030 red over green and zooming out for the monthly. Not looking so great overall for the alts here. I'd say maybe 8020 right over green and zooming out for the year. To get a broad annual perspective. The bulk of the market definitely in the red, so alts haven't been doing so well this alleged alt season. I don't think we've had an alt season. So there you have it. Let me know if we will witness some form of an alt season this year. And checking out the infamous Crypto Green and fear index today we're 62 greed, yesterday 52, last week 56 and last month 73. And checking out the infamous time chain calendar. Two days ago we crossed the 900, 000 block milestone. Today it's 900 354. We have 149646 blocks until the having a 28. And as of today 6-8-2025 you can exchange one fiat monopoly dollar for 941 sats. So you know what to do Broskis. Pick up the SATs, put down the gats and pick up some bitcoin caps from my man Sergio over@bitcoin caps.net but anyways let's continue with the news. We do got a lot to share. Next up we'll be discussing some very bullish targets and we'll pull up some of the live charts, do a little analysis. Headline reads Bitcoin can liquidate 15 billion in shorts. You can't short your dork. We can't afford that with a 10 bitcoin price uptick. And again, happy 420 for the Broskis here. We're looking at a one hour chart. We'll be pulling up the live chart here in a minute but anyways trading view showed Bitcoin cementing its rebound after a trip to a hundred thousand five hundred on June 5th which was the local bottom. The silver lining there is a hundred thousand held up and that's a major psychological support. So that's a good sign. Now almost back at its weekly open level, Bitcoin again inspired traders to bet on upside contin quoting rec capital on the daily time frame. Bitcoin showcasing signs of breaking the two.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
Turning it into support. Earlier today, daily closing and retesting 1066 as outlined in the chart in the black would be even better to enable the trend continuation. Now bitcoin price action had already achieved the daily close above the 10 day simple moving average, something that fellow trader Super Bruh had said was the prerequisite for the invalidation of the bear case. So shout out to the Super Bruh now. Also another trader meanwhile looked at the order book liquidity for cues over the price direction. This was building both above and below the spot price just like water above and below. Just saying. Bitcoin liquidation clusters now signaling an upside move. If Bitcoin pumps 10% from here, 15 billion in shorts will get liquidated. Meanwhile a 10 downside move will liquidate almost 10 billion in long. So either way market makers looking to liquidate these mofos now. Also they shared I think bitcoin big move coming next week possibly pushing it above 110. Current all time high was 112 achieved May 22nd a couple of weeks back and we do get a new weekly close here shortly. Now updating followers Crypto Nuevo shared He's building bitcoin long positions at a hundred thousand or outlined it in the market 1000s. The strongest psychological support what I mentioned earlier it is the area where I'm building some longs with easy invalidation below it now Rec capital. Meanwhile describe the support retest after May's all time highs on the weekly time frame is successful as outlined here. Can Bitcoin successfully confirm this retest with a Weekly close above 1044? And it looks like we're absolutely going to close above that as we're approaching 107 here and we do get the weekly close in about an hour, hour and a half during the live stream. Now Max Geyser shared this in response to Mexico's third richest man, Uncle Ricky, holding 80 of his wealth in bitcoin. I think he upped it from 75 and I think soon it's going to be 100. It is the greatest performer in this portfolio. I've listened to quite a lot of Uncle Ricky's speeches and I got mad respect for the man. Heck, I dare say he may even already be the number one richest man in Mexico because when he gave him this tagline of the third richest man in Mexico, this was like five, six years ago and bitcoin is up like I don't know, 5 to 10x since then. So who knows, he could be the number one most wealthiest man in Mexico at this point. Bitcoiner's taking over the planet. That's all I'm saying. But let's also check out some of the live charts. We'll do a little live chart action. Jackson Satisfaction, Bo Jackson for the Brosis and then we'll get back to the chat. Give me a second to switch out the chat from the rumble to the YouTube. There we go. That way you guys can interact here. And if you guys don't know this is a live and interactive show. If you want to participate in the chat you see in your screen, the direct link is. What is it? I always forget. Oh, crypto news alerts dot net. That's the direct link to the YouTube channel in which the commenting is coming from. But here on the one hour chart you can do see we do got the rising wedgie. We've had a hell of a lot of momentum since hitting that 100000 bottom just the other day and we are continuing to rise again. We're above 106. Where are we at 106? Let me move the cursor. 106. 343 at the time of the live stream and zooming out from the hourly we'll take a look at the four hour work our way backwards and the four hour shows. We also have the rising wedge. We do have a bear target on the screen sitting all the way down at around 99. 100. Nope. 101 2. Now again, we did hit 1015 just a few days ago and that's the local bottom but we shot right back up like Tigger from Winnie the Pooh. The wonderful thing about bitcoin is bitcoin. The wonderful thing. That's all I'm saying. And zooming out from the four hour thing. Going to look at a daily. I think the caffeine's kicking in. Excellent. Okay, on the daily chart, no particular bull targets here, but we did have three consecutive days of bullish momentum which is a good sign. Checking out the weekly and like I said, the line in the sand is like 104. We're nowhere near that. So we should close extremely BU for the new week which means new all time highs in play. We're less than 6,000 away from price discovery and you can see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. We had seven green consecutive weekly candle closes, the most since the inception of bitcoin. But we did get a corrective week last week and it looks like this week we'll b barely close in the green here shortly, which is awesome. We still also have the sexy cup and handle target sitting at 124,000 on the weekly sharp and checking out the monthly April and May. We're in the green and already June forming in the green though it's very early here in the month. But you let me know where you feel the pretty little bitty likely take us next. Next story. You should be able to see the headline here in a second on my screen as it reads Michael Sailor teases fresh Bitcoin buy after the recent one billion dollar stock offering. That's right, the Gigachad for the Win Strategy Co Founder Executive Chair Mikey Sailor posted a chart of the company's Bitcoin holdings June 8as a contractor, I don't pay for materials I don't use, so why would I pay for stuff I don't need in my mobile plan? That's why the new My Biz plan from Verizon Business is so perfect. Now I can choose exactly what I want and I only pay for what I need right now with my biz plan. Get our best price as low as 25 a line.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
Price per month with five plus lines includes auto pay and paper free billing and special intro offer, discount taxes, fees, economic adjustment charge and terms apply offers in June 10, 2025, which was earlier today signaling a possible upcoming acquisition. On June 8, Sailor posted send Me More Orange Sailor's cryptic post Definitely not cryptic are often followed by announcements and new bitcoin purchases. If Strategy follows up with a post with another bitcoin buy, it will mark the ninth consecutive week of bitcoin purchases for Strategy B. The post comes shortly after the company purchased an additional 705 Bitcoin between May 26 and June 1, first for just a simple 75 million at an average price of 106,000 per bitty, bringing the company's total Bitcoin holdings to 580,955 BTC, currently valued at 61 billion. It brings back memories because in 2020 I believe strategy was only worth about $400 million. And Sailor was puzzled on how do I keep this melting ice cube from melting, referring to his fiat at the bank. And then he discovered, well, we can adopt a bitcoin treasury play and put it into bitcoin. And lo and behold, now his company is worth an insane amount. I think it's over 60 billion. Correct me if I'm wrong. Data from Sailor Tracker shows the company is up approximately 50 on the investment, amounting to around 20 billion. Just an unrealized profit. So his market cap went from being worth like 400 million in 2020 to 20 billion. Just an unrealized profit, which is mind boggling. And here's the strategy history a bitcoin acquisition every single time they made a massive purchase. Now Sailors post Follow Strategies announcement We recently shared of a billion dollar stock offering quadrupling the previous 250 million raised. So he's like yeah, we'll just 4x it the company said it'll use the proceeds to fund additional bitcoin purchases and general corporate expenses. The offering involves 11 million shares of the 10 Series A Perpetual Stride Prefer stock price at 85 bucks per share. Strategy experts to raise about 979 million after expenses from underwriting. And unlike its past funding methods, the preferred stock offers non cumulative dividends of 10%. This appeals to the institutional and professional investors who are after the yield. It aims to offer more predictable investor returns while the company continues to pursue its aggressive bitcoin accumulation strategy. My question for all of you, how many of you have any type of exposure to to strategy stock or any of the, you know, stk st msty Ms. Any of them do, let me know. Bitcoin treasury data shows the company holdings make it the single largest bitcoin holder by far. Eclipsing amount of bitcoin held by the US and China combined. Yeah, you really need to get your together USA Trump. I mean put your foot on the gas Already Strategy holdings also nearly 12 times bigger than the second largest Bitcoin holder which is Marathon holdings, the bitcoin bitcoin miner. Also strategy had become closely associated with bitcoin. Yeah, with any investors seeing the company as a corporate wrapper for bitcoin exposure and I think that's precisely what strategy is. It's a corporate Wrapper to get long 2x leverage on Bitcoin which ultimately means as long as bitcoin performs well, then strategy stock should perform a little better. However, keep in mind, Bitcoin's extremely volatile. I think we can all agree on that. So if Bitcoin's extremely volatile, that would make any stock based on Bitcoin that much more volatile. So do take note of that. Also a big difference between owning the underlying asset and having exposure to it. There's a big difference. Right. If shit were to hit the fan, you don't own that bitcoin at the end of the day, if you have exposure to it through a wrapper, only if you hold it and properly stored self custody can you really say I own the private keys? Yeah, I mean so we would still definitely encourage people to stack bitcoin. Some people prefer doing it through a stock. I mean that's your prerogative. Some people like you know, to do whatever they want to do and that's perfectly cool as well. I just don't want you to get confused. Owning bitcoin, the underlying asset will always be superior to having any leverage play or rapper of bitcoin. The wrapper of bitcoin May be for those that are looking to make some form of a yield or create some form of an income off of Bitcoin or having indirect exposure to Bitcoin versus just storing and huddling the underlying assets. So next story we discussed the latest with the Michael Sailor and our feature story is going to be. He was recently interviewed by Natalie Bernell and Coin Stories and he Discusses how to 100 extra money for an ordinary individual. We're going to be discussing that how to potentially have a hundred million dollar Bitcoin position. I'll be breaking that down for you but first we gotta cover the rest of the news. I think you're on mute.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
LinkedIn knows how Tether CEO snubs IPO says 515 billion valuation. That's a bit bearish. Tether's been crushing it. I mean, I think that's because more recently Circle went live or public, I should say. And so I guess they're entertaining. What would Tether be worth if they launched, you know, an ipo? So pretty wild. That's a half a trillion dollars and that's bearish. So yeah. Tether CEO Paolo says the stablecoin issuer has no intention of going public. They're going to remain private and I think that's personally a smart idea. He says no need to go public. And that's two days after Circle, which just went public. They own the stable coin USDC entered the public market. Circle shares climbed 167% on the first trading stage session on the NYSE. Now, Paolo addressed valuation speculation raised by Art Missus CEO Johnma, who claimed that if Tether, which is beyond the stablecoin usdt. Well, it is not. If it is, were to go public, it would Rank as the 19th largest company globally with a valuation of 515 billion larger than the multinational giants like Costco and Coca Cola. I repeat, if, if Tether USDT were to go public, their valuation would already be bigger than Costco, Coca Cola, which is mindboggling. Pablo called the 515 billion valuation a beautiful number. He said it might be actually too low. And he's probably not kidding. Maybe a bit bearish considering our current increasing Bitcoin plus gold Treasury. Yet he says I'm very humbled. Prominent bitcoin advocates Pump Leano and Jack Mers and all my bitcoin ballers both suggested the company could one day reach a trillion dollar valuation. I think it's a given, especially with how much bitcoin they have on the balance sheet. I mean bitcoin's just got a double and it's already there. But quoting John Ma here, if Tether went public today, tethered be the 19th largest company in the world at a 515 billion valuation. That's ahead of Costco and Coca Cola. Here's why Circle is now public with a 30 billion market cap. Our financial model has circle at 410 billion in 2025 or 69x tether claims 13 billion net profits 20247 billion came from treasuries and repos. The other 5 billion came from unrealized gains from bit coin and gold holdings, which we don't include. We assume Tether grows USDT as a supply by adding another 5060 billion of the USDT. An average USDT supply in 2025 is 170 billion with an average fed fund rate of 4.2% implying 7.4 billion 2025 and the numbers are astronomical. Paolo added he is truly excited for the next phase of growth for our company. I would dare say the same. Tether's USDT ranks is the third largest crypto by market cap valed at 154 billion and they do have their headquarters in Bitcoin country. Sh out buel. Meanwhile, April 24th it was announced Tether would become the majority owner of 21 Capital. I repeat Tether have become the majority owner of 21 Capital, a new Bitcoin treasury company founded by all my bitcoin ballers such as Strikes, Jack, Mers and despite the recent launch 21 already become the world's third largest corporate holder. So upon launch that's because they have the backing of Tether and Cantor Fitzgerald multi billion dollar conglomerates. Tether moved a combined 37229 Bitcoin worth 3.9 billion to addresses linked to the new bitcoin native financial platform. And how many bitcoin treasury companies have been birth since MicroStrategy? There's quite a lot. I tend to be announcing them virtually every Show a new one. Next story we're going to be discussing 120000 target this June which means this month at least according to the analysts synonymous analyst Pentosh tells us followers on x Bitcoin's weekly chart shows the bitcoin demand is significantly outpacing supply resulting to the higher prices supply shock. Let's get it and there's legitimately the least amount of bitcoin available right now in the exchanges since we have witnessed since 2018. So in the past seven years the trader says he's seeing insatiable demand for bitcoin from firms and traditional finance leading him to believe the bullish continues continuation is on the table for the pre little bitty quitting them here demand is greater than supply. A picture is worth 1000 words. Feel like we see around 120000 per biddy this month. No diddy. The analyst also shared he remained patient and have a long term outlook on the king crypto. He says every day if there's billions of dollars flowing into the BTC why is it not going up? My brother in Christ zoom out. It is going to get there just maybe not always at the the speed you want. And he actually makes a great point there. And looking at the broader crypto market, he says a new bubble is forming in the space. Quoting them here looks like all of the money is going to be made in crypto companies doing IPOs at wild valuations. Deeper pockets, more liquidity, higher valuations. Another bubble is a brewing another bubble to chase. Meanwhile, Pen's bubble call comes after shares of stablecoin issuer Circle meteorically rose the first day of trading. Like I said, their IPO just went live.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
Circle debuted on the stock market on Thursday with an opening price of 69 per share. Is that a subliminal message ladies? 69amassive increase from the IPO value of 31 per share I dare say. And there you have it. Bitty Broskis and bitty Baddies. What are your thoughts? 120 we do still have the 124 Sexy cup and handle target on the weekly chart. Do you think the analyst is right? Next leg up up this month all time high price discovery. Holla at your boy. Let me know Bitcoin family revamp security after the crypto crime wave Referencing the recent kidnappings of you know, influential crypto folks. So yeah, this guy, I guess the pronounced Diddy or Dee Dee. I don't want to throw him in the under the bus and refer to him as Diddy. That would be disrespectful. So I'm just going to say Dee Dee and hopefully that's accurate. He overhauled his digital asset security setup following wave of the violent attacks targeting crypto holders. And we have covered many of those stories here on the pod. The family, known for going all in on bitcoin back in 2017, now hides portions of their private keys across four continents. It's starting to sound like Dragon Ball Z. You got to collect all the dragon balls to get the wish h. In a CNBC interview, he said he now uses a hybrid approach instead of relying solely on on hardware wallets. He shared on CNBC that the family has changed everything. Quoting them here, even if someone held me at gunpoint, I can't give them more than what's on my wallet or my phone. And that's not a lot. Exactly. The security overhaul comes amid the new wave of criminal activity, including kidnappings, extortion attempts aimed at crypto users. He said the threats forced them to rethink their security strategy. The family seed phrase is encrypted and split into four parts, he said it's stored using blockchain based services and fireproof metal plates etched by hand. The plates are then hidden in physical locations worldwide, allowing the family to eliminate potential points of failure in their security system. Now he also added a layer of personal encryption to further strengthen the setup by modifying some words of the seed phrase, making them unusable without the proper context. The family lives a nomadic lifestyle, traveling globally promoting the biddy. And because of their increasing threat going on to crypto holders. He said the family no longer post real time updates about their location smart online after receiving threats from individuals who track them using social media. Yeah, you gotta move in silence. Satoshi figured it out a long time ago. He also said 65 of the family assets are now held in cold storage under the new security model. Their hot wallets for trading and expenses are protected through multi signature protocols, a digital asset. As the prices rise, so have incidents related to the crypto crime. In late 2024 and early this year, high profile cases emerged in France, Pakistan, Australia and Canada linking violent crimes to crypto ownership. There was even a couple of assassinations here in Puerto Rico with some high, you know, holding bitcoin folks as well. And in January, gang members in the UK were convinced of Kidnapping to torturing, extorting a crypto Investor. Then February, six men kidnapped the family of three in Shaw City demanding the transfer of 15 million in crypto. And in March, a streamer was became a victim of a home invasion. And allegedly there was police officers on the take involved. Shit's a mess. And we're seeing more and more of these crimes. South Korea, France, you name it. Now. Yeah, I think it's a, a potentially a smart move there. I don't want to get into the inner workings of separating your private keys like it's a dragon ball in different continents across the world. Obviously, if you don't know what you're doing, that could absolutely backfire. So here's the thing. Learn how to properly self custody your bitcoin and make moves smart. Do it in silence with bitcoin. Remove your ego. You don't need to be bragging about how much bitcoin you have. You don't need to be bragging about living the bitty high life, traveling around the world, letting people know your intent areas of where you're going to be at what time and such. You're just gonna set yourself up for something awful, you know, to happen at the end of the day. So stress extreme caution because today you may say, you know what? I only have 0.1 Bitcoin, bro. It's only 10,000. Well, think about what it's going to be worth a decade from now. And that one single post of you bragging because your ego's on you, know what I mean? Full force. It's like, oh, my God, 10 people could trace you and be like, dude, I remember when he bought the 0.1 Bitcoin that's now worth 10 million, I'm coming for him. Just saying, be careful, guys. That's why it's not a bad idea to lose it all in a boat in accident.
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Michael Saylor
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JV
Your life's no longer in danger. All right, fam. Now for our featured story of the day, the Gigachad Michael Saylor was recently interviewed on Natalie Brunel's Coin Stories podcast. And Natalie asked them straight up, Michael, how can an individual, like a regular individual, get a 100x return. And Sailor broke down the road map for a regular pleb to stack $100 million worth of Bitcoin. And I transcribed it word for word. I'm going to read it to you right now. So first and foremost, shout out Michael Zaylor, shout out Natalie Brunel and shout out to the Coin Stories podcast again verbatim. I transcribed it myself. Here's what Michael said. I think the best way to get 100x returns as an individual would be keep your day job so you maximize the cash flow you generate by whatever your profession is. So that's right, don't quit your day job. Keep the income coming. You're responsible on your expenditures. You have to think in the year 2045, which is 20 years out, I think a Bitcoin's worth 13 million. And that's conservative by the way. So every bitcoin you don't buy is really a 13 million dollar cost. And that's a very profound concept. Let that one sink in. That rari that you're going to buy is going to cost you like 6 bitcoin. And so it's going to be 100 million dollar rari if you look out 20 years. So you have to keep your job. Unless you're already insanely rich, then don't splurge on the rari, buy the 6 bitcoin instead. And with regard to leverage, the intelligent leverage for the individual is generally long dated mid dated mortgage debt. So if I have any kind of property such as a house, I would put a long mortgage on it, a 10 year, 15 or 20 year mortgage and most commonly is it not 30 years but anyways, especially a conforming loan and then roll it over into bitcoin. Because mortgage debt is not marked to market, it's against an asset which is fairly stable. Now normally the interest rates are subsidized by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac program or government program. So it's the cheapest form of permanent capital that someone could get. So I give you what you shouldn't do. You should not quit your job, you shouldn't splurge on sports cars you can't afford and don't buy a yacht because it's insanely expensive. And don't pay off your mortgage. I repeat, don't pay off your mortgage. Don't get debt free. And again, this is transcribe word for word. When Natalie asked him this question, I found it very profound. I want to give a shout out to Vivek as well for actually sharing the clip in which I transcribed and I encourage you to watch the entire interview between Natalie and Michael. Be sure to check the show notes below the video in the description and I want to know your thoughts on that. Do you agree with Michael Saylor that the regular individual can still get a 100x return by following that road map over the course of the next couple of decades by the year 2045? Do let me know. And also, let's pull this up. Max Kaiser recently tweeted the time was 20:20. The Place, Miami Beach. A successful businessman. Businessman looking at the 400 million melting ice cube on his balance sheet sees the orange light for the first time and corporate finance is changed from forever. Look at that face. And now the man's company is worth over $60 billion. Back in 2020, it was a melting ice cube of fiat capital in the bank only worth 400 million. And he birthed all these other, you know, corporate bitcoin treasury plays. We call it the Sailor put. You got Meta Planet and all these other companies now like 21, purely just adopting bitcoin following in the blueprint or the road map that he has laid out. And if it wasn't for Michael Saylor, we probably wouldn't have nowhere near the institutional adoption we're experiencing in this cycle. Nor would we have Trump signing the executive order for the Bitcoin strategic reserve and all that. So you got to give credit where credit is due. Also, shout out to Max Kaiser. He recently announced he's running for president for the United States for the year 2028. And he created the Orange Pill Pill party. And here you can see you can follow the Orange Pill party, which I would recommend you do. Shout out Max Geyser, by the way. And let's check out some of the other more recent tweets in which he shared. There's a lot of stuff, of course, regarding El Salvador. You can see here from the bitcoin office, which FYI, is ran by Stacy Herbert. And if you didn't know, Max and Stacy are actually the bitcoin advisors to President Buell. Max points out here, bitcoin is the monetizing real estate. I mean, couldn't agree more. This guy predicts real estate will crash sometime between 2026 and 2028 and explains 11 reasons why. Well, one of those reasons should be bitcoin demonetizing it. Yeah, I mean, also, Max did a fantastic post I reposted earlier. I'm not going to read it here. It's very long, but it's very good in regards to the rioting going on in Los Angeles and then makes a great comparison to what Bukele did with El Salvador. Another interesting statistic. World leaders approving rating Bukele is the highest in the world, the highest we've ever seen. 91 approval Putin 80% I guess the Indian President 76% Malay 58% But I don't even know if Trump's on this list. Is he Donald Tusk? Tusk? That's kind of hilarious. There is a president by the name of Donald Tusk that's new to me but I don't even see a U. S President even on the list. So you know, just to show you. But anyways you guys let me know your thoughts surrounding the sailor prediction and that you can still get 100x return by stacking the biddy and following in his advice and I'll read your comments out loud. If Harari cost 6 bitcoin in 20 years and bitcoin will have this disappointed No, I think he's saying today arari, today is 6 bitcoin and in 20 years that 6 bitcoin is no longer the 600,000 you paid today but ends up being 100 million. That was the logic behind what he was sharing. I watched that video. She is a fox. Can I get a go on strike for Natalie Bernell? Absolutely. And don't forget to check out cryptonewsalerts.net for the full premium experience with video and to participate in our live Q and A. And I look forward to seeing you on tomorrow's episode. Hoddle.