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2134: Winklevoss Twins Predict $1 Million Bitcoin – Gold 2.0 Era Has Begun
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Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss double down on their $1,000,000 Bitcoin prediction, calling BTC “Gold 2.0” as the global reserve asset for the digital age. Meanwhile, Bitcoin reclaims key levels, Strategy adds 220 BTC for $27.2M, and crypto...
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Morning Zoe. Got donuts.
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Jeff Bridges why are you still living above our garage?
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Well I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me.
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So Dana oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.
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Wow.
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Impressive. Let me try. T Mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.
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Nice.
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Je free.
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You heard them.
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T Mobile is the best place to.
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Get the new iPhone 17 Pro on.
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Us with eligible traded in any condition.
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So what are we having for lunch?
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Dude, my work here is done.
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Welcome Bitcoin fam to the number one daily Bitcoin pod. It's October 13th, 2025. Bitcoin looking to recapture 116,000 right back on the cusp. A price discovery roughly 8,000 away after that massive dump to 108. We're so back. We'll also be breaking down the latest technical analysis and everything you need to know. Also, check this out. Go Gold just hit a new all time high hitting 4, $100 an ounce. Also, Forbes says Trump is now one of the largest bitcoin investors on the planet, owning an estimated 870 million in BTC. Also, Baron Trump tweets bitcoin looking quite promising and then deletes his post 20 seconds later. We'll also be discussing bitcoin. Whale review reveals three and a half billion. I'm sorry, three and a half thousand. Bitcoin short key support levels to watch next. That's 3500B BTC being shorted. Just remember, you can't short your dork unless you're the insider or Baron Trump. We'll also be discussing Strategy. Just added 220 Bitcoin for 27.2 million. They just made the announcement. I'll be sharing the latest from the Gigachad. Also, bitcoin mining stocks rebound after Trump's tariff threat sparked market turmoil. That's to say the least. Also, crypto fundraising sets a new record of three and a half billion in a single week. Our feature story today, bitcoin to a million dollars. Why Gemini's Winklevoss twins call it Gold 2.0. We'll also be taking a look at the overall crypto market. All this plus so much more in today's show. All right, fam, if you guys are new to the Rumble, important smash the likes, give us a follow, then hit the repost over on x. Today is October 13, 2025. I'm your host, JV alongside the Fed chair Nip Anator, the greatest co host ever exists and the creator of the Nip Anator indicator, the only bitcoin indicator with 100% accuracy. Bitcoin's recovered quite nicely considering we flash crash around 105 today. We're just on the cusp of reclaiming $116,000 and it is a federal holiday. It's Columbus Day today, so yeah, it's like a long weekend ultimately. But let's kick it off with our market watch as we do each and every day. Pulling up coinmarketcap.com you should be able. The bitcoin market cap is sitting just above $2.3 trillion on the day. The Ethereum market cap is $514 billion. So synthetics leading the pack, up 36% story up 22% followed by immutable up 11%. Next up, checking out the crypto bubbles. Get a visual perspective here on the day. You can see bulk of the market in the green, checking out the weekly bulk of the market in the red due to that massive crash, which was considered the largest liquidation event in crypto and history. And checking out the annual snapshot here on the crypto bubbles a little better. Yeah, it's Definitely, I'd still say 60, 40 green over red on the year. And checking out the crypto greed and fear index. Today it's a 38, yesterday at 24, extreme fear last week at 71 and last month of 52, which is neutral. But anyways, we're gonna Continue where we left off. Next up for our ta AKA Astrology for the broskis and special shout out to the baddies. A headline reads Bitcoin prize reclaims key level as the traders say 150 bitcoin in play. Send it next leg up baby. We're still in October. Y' all must have forgot. So yeah, check this out. Bitcoin was trading 8% above the 175 low reached on Friday. Other analysts say we flash crash to 105. I think it really all depends on the exchange like on Coinbase I know it was 107 but others said it was 105. So I just want to stress that as well. The recovery has seen bitcoin rise back above the short term huddler cost basis suggesting possible higher gains. The short term huddler cost basis or realized price represents the average acquisition price of bitcoin for investors who have held Bitcoin for less than 155 days. Just blaze quoting Capital Management vibes bitcoin back to the short term huddler cost basis a 114. And now we're about to reclaim 116. The show goes on. Welcome to the bitcoin show. Now listen up closely. Lowkey stacking BTC like Satoshi the short term Hodler cost basis trendline access support during the bitty bull market corrections reclaiming it boost investor confidence the bitcoin may see further gains. Additional data from Glassnode highlights the cost.
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Basis of the one week to one.
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Month Hudders had crossed back above the one month to three month cost basis signaling a rising momentum in demand and net capital inflows as traders bought the dip.
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Bitcoin's latest flash crash below 110 was very shortlived as traders affirmed the upside was not over for the btc. Quoting crypto analyst Mal Van Pop the crucial factor is that the bitcoin holds.
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The support above the 20.
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We moving average currently sitting at 113 and we're now like 3000 above or 2500 above that. Van A Pop added that Friday's drop below the price level provided a massive opportunity for the buyers. Reclaiming it indicated we're continuing the uptrend precisely. And another analyst by the name of Mikey Bull said as long as bitcoin and ETH are still looking great on the high time frame charts the bullish vibe continues. And then we have Dan Crypto trades said the best case for the cycle has always been 120 to 150. Looking at the bitcoin Rainbow price chart indicator no Diddy. The analyst said that the light green yellows region 140 to 200 could probably be a good point to start scaling out for the more heavily once the price reaches this level. Another analyst points out jelly. I love analyst names by the way. They're the best, especially in crypto. Jelly says never suck the jelly out of a jelly donut.
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There's a little throwback reference from the movie Fatso. Let me know if you've ever seen that one. The guy just was so addicted to the jelly inside the donuts, he used a straw and would suck out the jelly of the donuts and refill them. You can't make that up. But anyway, now quoting Jelly the analyst, I don't really mind the way this looks.
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The Target remains at 150.
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Now Bitcoin's retesting the golden cross, a bullish technical pattern that has historically preceded rallies at 2200% in 2017 and 1190% in 2020. A confirmed breakout. Can see the bitty price go parabolic.
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In the coming weeks.
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Now we're talking. Now for some other things I want to point out. You can look at this gold chart.
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Holy.
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I mean this is the gold price. Reminds me of Weimar Germany and just breaking out going parabolic right now, yo. Also in headlines here, Forbes says President Trump is now one of the largest bitcoin investors on the planet, owning an estimated 870 million in BTC. Not too shabby, but you can do better. A sailor's making you look like, you know, like junior varsity.
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You're looking like a JV right now, Trump.
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And also breaking. I don't, I haven't verified this myself, but according to the report, Baron Trump posted bitcoin looking quite promising and then deleted the post within 20 seconds. This may just be playing into that insider. A lot of people are alleging or speculating is obviously connected to Trump and his administration because there was a massive multiple, multiple hundred million dollar short right.
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Before there was an announcement that literally wrecked and crashed the market. Being one of the biggest or if not the largest.
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In Bitcoin history and now let's check out some of the live charts. The moment you've all been waiting on.
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As you can see here or should be able to see on your screen. Let me just verify that and I probably have to like make it pretty again here, but bear with me for today. Yeah, so the one hour chart you can see there's no particular targets and the last candle we printed currently in the red. Checking out, we'll zoom it out. Checking out the four hour. You can see a big green candle, last four hours but currently printing a red. Looks like we were retesting around 116 and we did correct a few hundred dollars since then. Then no particular targets in play. Checking out the daily daily chart you can see two consecutive green candles, one for today which is pretty insignificant, but yesterday's was pretty significant. It was a nice low recovery. Anyways, we'll continue with the news. We'll try and knock everything out best we can efficiently. Crypto fundraising sets new record of three and a half billion in a single week that's right. Crypto Rank data showed Monday. Weekly fundraising reached the highest point from October 6 to Sunday, surpassing the previous weeks including nearly 3 billion being raised between July 28 and the 3D. Not too shabby for one week. The surge came after seven consecutive weeks of sub 1 billion fundraising activity, marking a sharp resurgence in investor confidence. Fluctuated from 150 million to 2.9 billion. Underscoring the volatility of venture capital activity in the space, October sudden surge represents the significant breakout. The bumper fundraising came as Bitcoin reached.
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A new all time high of 126,000 just before the massive liquidation event crash.
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In the crypto markets on Friday. Crypto Rank data showed the blockchain services dominated last week's fundraising activity. Out of the 28 rounds recorded October 6, the Sunday 12 were blockchain service.
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Providers, making it the most active sector. Centralized finance followed with six rounds, while the remainder went to the blockchain infrastructure, decentralized finance, gaming and social ventures. This reflects a broad but service driven trend into the crypto investment landscape. Meanwhile, Penta Capital was the most active investor last week, participating in four deals.
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Two of the blockchain services and others.
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In CI and social ventures. And over the past year, Coinbase Ventures remain the most active player overall with 73 investments across multiple sectors. Also, Anamaka brand followed with 63 deals while Banan affiliated Yzi Labs completed 38.
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Now the newly or the new week crypto fundraising record occurred between reaching a new all time high and experiencing one of the biggest crashes in crypto history. For example, October 6th Bitcoin reached a new high of just above 126. I think it was 126. 3 on the Coinbase. The new high was linked to the asset moving from centralized exchanges into self custody and institutional funds and digital asset treasuries. However, the celebrations didn't last long. Trump announced 100% tariff on China causing the price to crash on some exchanges. Flash crash all the way down to 105 but we're right back as we regained a lot of those losses since then.
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Next Story of the day strategy added 220 bitcoin for 27.2 million last week as bitcoin posted new all time highs. Here's the proof of work from the Gigachad himself. Sailor who posted on x strategy acquired 220 bitcoin for 27.2 million at 123 $561 per bitcoin achieving a bitcoin yield a 25.9% year to date. 2025 as of October 12th we hodle 640,250 bitcoin acquired for 47.3 billion at 74,000 per bitcoin.
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Not too shabby Mr. Sailor I must say. Well done Brosi. The purchase was made at the average price of 123,500 a coin as bitcoin reached a new all time high. So he's buying the top just as he said he would on October 6th before dip into the flash crash for 107. Following the acquisition they now hold, as I mentioned, 640,250 Bitcoin purchased for a total of 47 billion at roughly 74,000 per bitty. Strategies Sailor took to X amid the Friday market crash, which has widely attributed the impact of the new China tariff threats from US President Donald Trump. No tariffs on Bitcoin which reminds me of one of my favorite songs from Chandy 10 you can't tariff the bitty and according to Sailor Strategies, Bitcoin yield, the percentage change the ratio between the company's bitcoin holdings and assumed diluted shares outstanding reached 25.9% year to date with the new purchase. The acquisition followed 196 Bitcoin buy announced late September. As Strategy opted not to buy more.
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Bitcoin in the first week of October, he took a hiatus for one week.
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Strategy's latest bitcoin purchase came as the common stock MSTR slid again last week, falling from $360 to now $39 by Friday as a Monday, MSTR was down roughly 33% from the July peak of about 456 bucks. But the stock remains 63% higher than one year ago, mirroring the bitcoin performance. How many of you actually have exposure to mstr? Do let me know. Another person pointed out here, the minute I can buy into a bitcoin exchange.
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Traded note in the uk, I'm likely selling all my MSTR and it's not.
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A small amount losing a lot of investors at the moment. So I guess some investors are disappointed with the price action what's happening there with the stock. But you guys let me know your thoughts. All right fam. Now for our feature story of the day. Bitcoin to 1 million per coin according to the Winklevoss twins. They're calling it Gold 2.0. We're talking Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss, the OGs. Bitcoin has been a financial mystery since inception. Critics often dismiss it as a passing trend.
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What idiots.
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Remember Dan Pena?
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It's going to zero be mine.
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The Genesis block Jan 3rd and the rest is history. So bottom line, the Winklevoss Broskis they're projecting bitcoin overtaking the market cap of gold. In fact they were the first one to release that research report a while back. And in that research report it noted why bitcoin would overtake the gold market cap. And they are the ones who were referencing it as gold 2.0 a very long time ago. And naturally they are the real founders of Facebook. Allegedly. And if ever watch the social network. You understand Zuckerberg completely them over. But who got the last laugh with the bitcoin? Only a matter of time in my opinion before Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss become more wealthy than the Zucker himself. Because they got the bitcoin and Zuckerberg didn't.
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Unless Zuckerberg's, you know, loaded now with.
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The bitcoin, you just never know. But yeah, I'm not going to read the story due to the technical issues.
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It's up the stream.
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So I'm just going to talk and I want to know your thoughts regarding a million per coin. I personally think even if bitcoin only overtook half the market cap of gold will likely to be a million dollars or close to it with Bitcoin hitting 25 trillion. And if someone could maybe verify what the gold market cap is as of today, I would probably speculate is around 25 trillion. So even with a 12 and a half trillion market cap, which is half the market cap of gold because bitcoin is the apex predator and it's devalue, you know, demonetizing, I should say real estate, gold and all asset classes right now bitcoin market cap is closer to two and a half trillion. So if you do the math, that's.
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Like a morning Zoe got donuts.
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Jeff Bridges why are you still living above our garage?
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Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me.
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So Dana oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.
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Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.
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Nice Jeffrey, you heard them.
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T mobile is the best place to.
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Get the new iPhone 17 Pro on.
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Us with eligible traded in any condition. So what are we having for launch?
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I mean a 10x would get us to like 20 trillion ballpark. And by that time, I mean, if Bitcoin were to 20x, we're talking 2.2 million per coin, which is right in alignment with the high priest is prediction, which, you know, 2.2 million per coin and right in alignment with my infamous a, you know, 1.1 million prediction which is taking the 11, putting the decimal.
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In the center, 9x. Now we're talking 116,000 coming soon here any moment. And we're still on the cusp of reclaiming 116 for the day. But yeah, back to Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss. They're amongst the wealthiest folks in bitcoin because they're such early adopters. My understanding as far as wealth is concerned, on paper of course, there's a few mysterious figures Max ger stas that.
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We would never know what their holdings are because they're smart enough not to disclose it and talk about it because they don't have egos like all the the rest. But CZ is the wealthiest in crypto I'm aware of. His net worth is estimated to be 70 to $100 billion. He may become one of the first trillionaires in the world. Sailor in my understanding, nowhere near the level of work net worth of CZ because sailor didn't even embrace and adopt Bitcoin till 2020. Whereas CZ is a very early adopter, hence why his net worth is so much More significant. Also, the 640000 Bitcoin reference from strategy belongs to the investors. It doesn't belong to Sailor. Sailors estimated bitcoin holdings may be 20 to 40, 000, but who really knows for sure. But no comparison. CZ is the richest other richest folks I'm aware of in bitcoin. Off the top of my head it's going to be besides the Winklevoss twins, definitely Draper's up there because Tim Draper purchased a massive amount of bitcoin from the U.S. marshall's office and he was late. I think it was like 2014. But Bitcoin has grown such significantly since then. Another one that I come to my mind is uncle Ricky Ricardo Selenas who was always considered a long time ago, years ago, the third richest man in Mexico. Well, considering bitcoin's up multiple factors, tremendously hundreds of percent, potentially thousands of percent since then, maybe he's now the richest in Mexico. But you know what? It's safe to just continue to call him the third richest because who the.
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Hell wants to be the richest?
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Yeah, I mean you might end up on some bad list if you know what I'm saying. So you know, we'll, we'll say he's still the third richest. Besides that, I would assume people like Adam Back and Samson Mao who are early adopters and smart enough to keep their names off of the Forbes rich list are probably up there as well. Naturally Satoshi, 1.1 million Bitcoin spread across thousands of of addresses is going to be up there other individuals. Arthur Hayes is a bitcoin billionaire. So you know, very early adopter as well. And I'm sure I'm missing a handful of people, but those are the people that come to my mind first and foremost as far as wealth is concerned. But the Winklevoss twin twins are right up there. So very smart people. Obviously.
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CZ's net worth estimated to be around 87 billion.
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I'm glad you verified that because I just pull the numbers out of my ass.
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I'm just assuming and I'm right on the money. Look at that.
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Placing him amongst the world's richest in crypto.
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And the the most wealthiest person ever go to jail.
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Remember he had to serve that few.
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Months sentence and pay the 4.3 billion fine to the Department of Corruption.
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You know, I mean they say Trump owns a bunch personally. Correct? Close to a billion dollars worth. Close to a billion dollars worth. I verified that earlier in the show. 1.15 milli suits as well. Qatar will be training at the airport.
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Nice.
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Rumble said they could take the bitcoin as payments soon. Or did I dream it? My understanding is Rumble. Chris Pavlovski, the. The CEO, he. He did announce a while back that creators are going to be able to get paid in bitcoin. The doing.
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Bitcoin lolly rocks me wishes.
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For delicious rocket flame hot moonshot dying.
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The Trump train bitty pump the podus.
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Said to chill bye don't yo cabbage hands folded dumped sat stackers feeling luna well the Trump train goes chugga luggage.
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Bitcoin presidents coming to get you Bitcoin.
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Goes doing a temporary sacrifice makes them yell I got BTC oh well I'm swell I heard my owl telling like a whale hle gangster smiling BTC rises like the phoenix does what's this Tariff stress buzz oh oh oh no Is it time to buy or sell? Just kidding, what a joke.
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Do tell.
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I got the Bitty bro china get.
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Smashed no such thing as a bitcoin.
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Crash lady such a yummy coin. Bitcoin knows what to do, it goes, you can put a tariff on cars. Bitcoin maxis feel no scars. Weak hands gonna moan and groan. You could slap one on our phones hodl it's a dip, don't be a dip. Selling on the dip. But you can't tariff bitcoin going going. You can't ship your gold for the goods. You can't clear a check in the woods. You can't wait four days while the network lags. We're lightning fast while the old system drags. Tariffs on steel, on tech, on toys. Tariffs ain't touching our digital gold. We're poised, we don't listen to fud no noise tariffs on the pretty little bitty sailor said nope, not so. Bitcoin is perfect like that so dope dope dope. The global economy needs rocket fueled currency. But minds that stay woke lack urgency. High IQ thinkers push orange think that's funny? The teaching the truth? Bitcoin is perfect money. While the rest freeze up and stall.
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Bitcoin's gonna outlast them all.
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It's an angel in the orange lifeboat. It's bitty lifesaver, just reach out and take the rope. Bitcoin moves when the bankers break down. Golden mask men looking like clowns. We were gifted by a guy gave us a hat trick not a magician's hat trick Tip your hat no, this ain't the matrix, this is a matrix.
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Fix we make M's and watch the L's go the dim dim yeah, it's.
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Getting dark over there. F up, beware, take me to the.
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BTC candy shop hoping for the moonshot, Uhhuh honey is perfect money Turf stats.
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USA future economic gain, it can't hurt perfect money. We already won this game. Lava fire runs in our veins. Trump train arrived as expected Armed with the orange flame who's feeling the pain? The elite asset will be left unstained. Bitcoin president knows his game. President B from El Salvador and President in tea from where the eagle sores lead with BTC so stack sats take heed Bitcoin presidents feel no heat, they know their game, chill and keep your claim.
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Don't blame us for acting or being prophetic While you beg the Fed, we stayed unapologetic. The bitty energy, it's better than kinetic code so clean and spiritually symmetric pricing the 80 GS yeah, that's your sign to get it. You don't have to to ask twice. Just buy it, just get it.
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BTC is in the passing lane. Fiat stay in your lane. Drum said we are taking a hard look. Don't play us for a rook.
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Did somebody say crook?
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Our way, our trade, our land, our game. You need us, not the other way. We're looking at semiconductors. We're hodling Libra justice hunters. We're patriotic truth seekers. Your instructor while fencing and all infiltrates our God bless land.
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This isn't trade, it's your Trojan horse slaughter plan.
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Our presidents are taking a stand and the best of the Americas won't back down. You see we have men with a plan.
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Bitcoin president, President B and President Tankman stood in Tianan Square. You scared of orange? You must be when the color is typed on the net. China, you get scared. You say hands up, freeze. Censorship is your identity. Orange has angels, it's not just a shade. Don't get it tangled. It's not a phase, it's not a plane, it's not a flag, it's not a coin, it's a movement you can't unsee.
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TNM and square burned into history.
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Bitcoin doesn't blink and orange never forgets.
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You got your tariff now pay your debts. Justice doesn't bargain or sleep in regret. We hold the cards you want to dead.
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China.
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Do you find this to be alarming? On the USA is a no no forever upload a bitcoin isn't play doh. This a maybe baby. This is a shake up BTC looking strong a King Kong in this so called market crash. Satoshi's team chuckles seed phrases unimpregnable stash gdp that's cute. Watch this. We're rebels with a cause and diamond hand fist. We offer no apology, no fake confession. This is not a recession, it's succession. It's manifestation, destination and angelic creation and goodbye to starvation, inflation, exploitation, desperation, devaluation, SA.
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And don't forget to check out Bitcoin news alerts.net for the full premium experience with video and to participate in the live stream along with the Q and A. And I look forward to seeing you on tomorrow Tomorrow's episode Hoddle.