2144: Trump Pardons CZ – Tucker Carlson Calls Bitcoin CIA’s Greatest Scam

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Episode 2144: Trump Pardons CZ – Tucker Carlson Calls Bitcoin CIA’s Greatest Scam
Air Date: October 23, 2025
Host: JV (“Bitcoin News Alerts”)

Overview

This episode covers a volatile week in the Bitcoin markets, breaking news on President Trump’s pardon of Binance founder CZ, Turkey’s surging yet speculative crypto market, big-name predictions around Bitcoin’s year-end price, and a fiery breakdown of Tucker Carlson’s recent claim that Bitcoin is “the CIA’s greatest scam.” Host JV delivers his rapid-fire, bullish take on all events, tackles common FUD, and riffs with characteristic sarcasm and maximalist energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Market Recap & Current Sentiment

• Bitcoin Price Action:
  • Bitcoin rebounded by ~$2,000, recapturing the $110K level after a recent dip to $106K (01:24).
  • Current BTC market cap: ~$2.19 trillion; total crypto market cap: $3.7 trillion.
  • Altcoins still mostly down for the month; bifurcated market with “half in the red, half in the green.”
• Sentiment & Fear Index:
  • Crypto Fear & Greed Index at 27 (mild “extreme fear” zone); recent numbers suggest sustained trader anxiety.

Quote:
"The market always feels the worst right before it reverses...right when everyone thinks it’s over, bada boom bada bing. Bitcoin doing its damn thing ‘cuz it’s the damn king."
— JV (04:30)

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2. Technical Analysis & Near-Term Expectations

• TA Overview:
  • Bullish indications on the daily ($146K bull flag) but possible correction down to $104K before next bull run.
  • The 50-week simple moving average ($102K) seen as major long-term support, historically marking reversals.
  • Analyst perspectives vary; some expecting a final washout, but fundamentals remain robust.
• Whale Action & Leverage:
  • Reports of whales opening 40x leveraged shorts ahead of Trump’s announcement (09:56).
  • Large liquidation clusters at $106K; price volatility expected around key support levels ($107K line in the sand).

Notable Analysts Cited:

• N. Tropic: "Bitcoin may retrace to 104 as part of a healthy market correction...However, the underlying fundamentals and institutional interest remain robust." (05:41)
• Dan Crypto Trades: "$111K is what matters in the short term. If price can break and hold above that point, we can start looking higher." (11:07)

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3. Major News: Trump Pardons Binance’s CZ

• Details:
  • President Trump issued a pardon for Binance founder CZ, who had pleaded guilty in Nov. 2023 to failing to properly implement anti-money laundering protocols (12:20).
  • No official public details yet; speculation around what the pardon means for CZ’s legal standing and influence.
• Host’s Take:
  • JV considers the offense technical, not criminal, and praises the decision: “More power to CZ. I think that’s a good pardon. I’m much happier to read that CZ got pardoned than...Bankman Fred, because that would be a nightmare if you ask me.” (13:55)
  • Notes that CZ served a brief stint in jail, making him "the wealthiest man to ever serve any jail time...richer than Pablo Escobar." (14:46)

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4. Turkey’s $200 Billion Speculative Crypto Boom

• Chainalysis Report:
  • Turkey now leads the MENA region with $200B in annual crypto transaction volume, far surpassing the UAE at $53B (15:24).
  • Boom driven by speculative trading, not grassroots adoption; shift away from stablecoins toward alts.
• Broader Context:
  • While Turkey’s market is booming, retail participation is down—a result of economic pressures pushing institutional hedging over populist adoption.
  • Despite headlines, MENA region still lags growth rates seen in APAC (69%) and LATAM (63%).

Host Reflection:

• “The timing of this ALT surge coincides with the broader regional economic pressure, suggesting that the trend may reflect a desperate yield seeking behavior...” (15:51)

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5. Big Predictions: Will Bitcoin Reach $250,000?

• Mike Novogratz (Galaxy Digital):
  • Skeptical BTC will hit $250K by end of year: “Planets would almost need to align...There would have to be a heck of a lot of crazy stuff to really get that kind of momentum.” (21:43)
  • Sees $100K as key downside; upside only above $125/$126K (22:29)
  • Major catalysts: further Fed rate cuts or passage of the Clarity Act (23:21).
• Eric Trump: Remains vocal about potential for $200K BTC by year-end, referencing prior million-dollar supercycle predictions (22:11).
• Other analysts:
  • “Anyone who thinks bitcoin has to peak in Q4 of this year does not understand statistics or probability... anything can happen, Bitcoin’s on its own trajectory.” (24:01)

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6. Feature: Tucker Carlson – “Bitcoin is the CIA’s Greatest Scam”

• Tucker’s Claims (25:28):
  • Advocates for financial autonomy but doubts BTC’s privacy, citing blockchain transparency.
  • Fearful of digital currencies as tools for “totalitarian” control: “If you punish people, you can zero out their bank account and keep them from eating. You’ll have total obedience. That’s totalitarian.” (26:51)
  • Suggests Bitcoin may be a CIA creation due to Satoshi’s enduring anonymity.
• JV’s Rebuttal:
  • Argues Tucker is “spreading FUD,” dismisses CIA claims as recycled conspiracy with no basis.
  • “That’s a feature, not a bug—if Satoshi wasn’t anonymous, Bitcoin wouldn’t have survived.” (29:37)
  • Challenges Tucker’s stance on gold vs. Bitcoin: “Come on now, Tucker... Did Peter Schiff rot his brain?” (30:33)
  • Reading from Max Keiser’s post and “Grok”: CIA didn’t invent Bitcoin (“Bitcoin was designed to bypass central authorities—the opposite of CIA goals.” 32:41)
• Host’s Signature Riff:
  • “What’s not a scam? Only one thing comes to mind. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin. If I had a samurai sword, I’d demonstrate what a scam looks like, Mr. Tucker. The force is strong in JV’s office right now.” (34:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Market Emotions:

  • “Bada boom, bada bing. Bitcoin doing its damn thing ‘cuz it’s the damn king.” (04:30)

• On the Trump/CZ Pardon:

  • “He was considered the wealthiest man to ever serve any jail time. Just FYI, richer than Pablo Escobar.” (14:46)

• On Tucker Carlson’s CIA Claims:

  • "I'm a gold buyer. I'm the gold guy. Would Peter Schiff rot his brain? I've been vindicated big time in that. It was good enough for the Phoenicians; it's good enough for me.” – Tucker Carlson, paraphrased by JV (30:33)
  • “You're telling me to invest in something whose founder is mysterious? That's a benefit, that's a feature.” (30:46)
  • “That’s a claim, a false claim—reality: Bitcoin’s fully transparent. Every transaction public. Surveillance tool would be covert, not a public ledger.” – Max Keiser (via JV) (33:20)

• On Maximalism:

  • “If I had a samurai sword, I’d demonstrate what a scam looks like, Mr. Tucker. The force is strong in JV’s office right now...” (34:40)

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Important Timestamps

• Market Recap & Sentiment: 01:24 – 05:00
• TA & Support Levels: 05:00 – 09:25
• Whale Action/Leverage News: 09:56 – 12:00
• Trump Pardons CZ: 12:20 – 15:30
• Turkey Crypto Market/Chainalysis: 15:24 – 19:28
• Price Predictions (Novogratz & Eric Trump): 21:43 – 24:30
• Tucker Carlson/CIA FUD: 25:28 – 36:32

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Tone & Style Notes

• High-energy, irreverent, and unapologetically Bitcoin maximalist.
• Sarcastic, combative toward FUD, and quick to highlight the flaws in mainstream or “establishment” narratives.
• Frequent references to community memes (“stacking sats,” “baron Trump is bullish,” “maximalism”), and shoutouts to regular figures in BTC media (Max Keiser, Arthur Hayes, etc.).

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Takeaways for Listeners

• BTC remains volatile but structurally strong—expect continued swings, but underlying adoption and institutional interest are robust.
• The Trump/CZ pardon is a major headline, but likely has limited impact on Bitcoin’s fundamentals.
• Turkey’s speculative boom offers insight into how economic crises push both adoption and risky trading.
• Big year-end price targets are more media fodder than certainty, but the potential for new all-time highs remains if catalysts hit.
• The recurring “Bitcoin is CIA” conspiracy is entertaining but unsubstantiated—privacy and decentralization remain at Bitcoin’s core.
• For maximalists, the takeaway is simple: “Bitcoin. Bitcoin. Bitcoin.”

Transcript

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Bitcoin fam to the number one daily Bitcoin pod. In today's show, we'll be discussing Bitcoin may final flush to 104 before the Bull market returns even though we just recaptured 110,000 here this morning. We'll also be discussing Bitcoin whales add 40x leverage BTC shorts ahead of the Trump announcement. And speaking of Trump announcements, big news today. President Trump has officially pardoned Binance founder CZ. I'll be breaking down the latest report. Also, Turkey's 200 billion crypto boom is built on speculation, not adoption, according to this report from Chainalysis. We'll also be discussing crazy stuff needed for Bitcoin to reach 250,000 before the end of the year, as per Galaxy Digital CEO Mike Novogratz. Also, Eric Trump hints Bitcoin may be still going to 200,000 before the end of the year. 222 in play and the big story of the day, Bitcoin is the CIA's greatest scam claims Tucker Carlson. Also be giving you Max Kaiser's two satoshis to that we'll also be taking a look at the overall crypto market. All this plus so much more in today's show. But anyways, without further ado, if you're new to the Rumble, important smash likes give us follow hit the repost on access free to do so. This is how we hack the algorithm here on a thirsty throwback. Terrific. Thursday today is October 23rd, 2025. Bitcoin is up almost 2,000 on the day. We did reclaim 110 after our recent flash crash to the 106 range just the other day. I'm your host JV alongside the Fed chair the Nipinator. And let's get right in and kick it off with our market watch as we do each and every day. Sharing the screen here you're looking at coin market cap. Total crypto market cap today is 3.7 trillion and as we mentioned yesterday, gold. In a single day their market cap lost 2 1/2 trillion, which is bigger than the whole bitcoin market cap. Collectively the bitcoin market cap today is just under 2.2 trillion. It's actually 2.19 trillion to be more precise on the day. Checking out top 100 crypto gainers past 24 hours we got Trump's WLFI token up 11% followed by Aster, followed by Hyper Liquid. And speaking of hyper liquid, we're going to be discussing some super leverage positions from some of the whales here shortly. Checking out the crypto bubbles, get a visual perspective on the daily. Good to see the bulk of the market back in the green, especially after a pretty brutal last couple of weeks. Zooming out on the weekly though unfortunately still pretty much wrecked across the board. 30 day perspective. Super wrecked. Many of these alts down 20, 30, 40%. Checking out the year yearly perspective, it's pretty divided. It's I dare say 50, 50 half in the red, half in the green. And checking out the crypto green interfere index yesterday we did touch a 25 in extreme fear. Right now we're 27. Last week a 28 and last month a 43 in fear. Next story of the day. Here's our TA. Let's actually start with a little chart action. As you can see right here. Let me actually switch my perspective. So you're looking at a one hour chart brought to you via Trading View via Coinbase, the largest exchange in the States. You can see there's quite a lot of action happening right now. Lots of Volatility looking to make another pump. We're already up 2,000 on the day. There is a red target in the one hour. It's currently sitting at 114 4. So again 114 in play on the one hour chart. But let's get some different perspectives. Checking out the four hour you'll notice 1, 2, 3, 3 pretty impressive green candles here as of today. Itty bitty cracked of red. You know the bears are trying to maintain control. Some analysts are calling a retest 104. We'll get into that later. No particular bull targets on the four hour so we'll continue to work our way back here. Checking out the daily let's see if we got the bull flag formation sensation which we do. It's in purple. It's sitting at 146. 1464 in play on the daily chart and there's also some bear targets we're not even going to entertain. And checking out the weekly we do get the weekly close in a few more days. Thus far we are in the green on the week. Past couple of weeks were brutal to say the least. After a very bullish inauguration week of October which was pure bull. One of our best weeks I dare say. So let's also check out and there's also a rising wedge formation there. And checking out the monthly we have yet another eight days left till the end of the month and thus far we're in the red. So yeah October has been a little disappointing but it ain't over. We still got a whole week left. So let me know how you feel will likely fair for the rest of October before entering the historically most bullish month of the year which is novemble and which leads us into our analysis here. Bitcoin May final flush to 104 before the Bull market returns. Let me know if you agree or disagree with this analysis. The Bitcoin long term support technical indicators the 50 week simple moving average currently stands at 102 according to trading view. It has served as solid support four times since the bull market began mid 2023. Likely to be revisited again. There's still a lot of leverage in the market and a large liquidity cluster around 104. I know it's not what any holder wants to hear but very likely we take that out. Let me know if you agree disagree with the analysts. The market always feels the worst right before it reverses, he points out providing observation that the last two times bitcoin market hit the indicator was back in April of 2025 when it fell to 74,000. In August of 2024 when it crashed all the way down to 49,000. Both times sentiment was absolutely fried just like it is now and then each time it reversed hard after tagging that level. So right when everyone thinks it's over, bada boom, bada bing. Bitcoin doing its damn thing cuz it's the damn king, it's the champion. Other analysts such as N. Tropic shared a bearish sentiment. He wrote, we are seeing a repeat of the final phases of correction in September. It seems like the profit taken this time around is less intensive. The analyst added, the current setup opens the doors to 102 and we're very close now to a larger reversal. Quoting him here, Bitcoin may retrace to 104 as part of a healthy market correction driven by the profit taken macroeconomic uncertainty. However, the underlying fundamentals and institutional interest remain robust, setting the stage for a strong resumption of the bull market. Meanwhile, Dan crypto trades identify the 200 day exponential moving average as a key area of support during most of this cycle. There has been some chop around it during uncertain times, but in the end price never lost the trend for more than a month. Bitcoin has remained relatively stable over the past 24 hours and we just pumped 2, 000 on the day reclaiming 110. It briefly did spike to 113 Tuesday but then quickly dropped to 107 and anticipate lots more extreme volatility. So if you don't know now you know. But next story Bitcoin whales add 40x leverage uh, Bitcoin shorts ahead of the Trump announcement. Bitcoin risk Fresh losses into Thursday's Wall Street Open as the whales flip. Short but ironic. Again we are pumping Data from trading view showed bitcoin price tapping but falling to hole one or failing to hold. Again, very volatile. It's 110 is back to 109 and vice versa. Acting in an increasingly narrow range, President Trump was scheduled to make an announcement.

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Se mobile.com from the White House 3pm so that's coming up in less than two hours and large volume bitcoin traders were betting on bad news for example Bitcoin OG Kyle Chassi or Chase I don't know how pronounce that. Describe one of Whale's 40x leveraged Bitcoin shorts. Insane. Insane in the mem brain. Insane in the brain. This whale deposited 3 million USDC into hyperliquid recently shorting Bitcoin with 40x leverage. Trump is also making an announcement from the White House. Coincidence someone would dare say it's the time traveler Baron Trump. It does seem to always be an insider front running the big Trump announcements so wouldn't be surprised if it's a blood if you know what I mean relationship There we see quite big liquidation cluster just above the 106 and then this chart showed liquidation levels on exchange order books from Coin Glass which often act as near term price magnets. I say 222 is a magnet. Send it Coin Glass. Data also showed various new whale shorts opening the day including those with significant volume of leverage. Suspicions have accompanied the Whale place throughout October after certain entities appeared to front run the news headlines and comments from Trump. The phenomenon originally surfaced October 10th when Bitcoin fell from all time highs to a low of 102 which was one of the biggest crashes I believe and crypto history. And clearly there was an insider shorting bitcoin for hundreds of millions of dollars in leverage short trading. It just makes you wonder now net premium flows reveal concentrated selling across 109115 indicating recent moves higher are being used as a hedge. This suggests traders are positioningly defensively or positioning defensively into the strength while the market continues to consolidate. Meanwhile bearish bitcoin price predictions are in place earlier we entertain 104. Another analyst says we can drop below 107. Things can get ugly fast. So far we've held but I wanted to show it's not just a horizontal support, it's a diagonal support for near year and a half long uptrend as he outlines right here in the chart. Let me know if you agree Disagree. We also have Dan crypto trades agreed the volume at a current range was pretty thin thin. The 111 level you gotta love the 11s is what matters in the short term. If the price can break and hold above that point we can start looking higher. It's good that the 107 level level held during the weakness also from the stocks yesterday. But that is a key support to hold going forward. So we can say 107 line in the sand next story. Here we go. President Trump pardons Binance Founder CZ this is the latest report. President Trump pardoned convicted Binance founder CZ following months of lobbying and appeals from the company and its former CEO. The Wall Street Journal reported today, citing people familiar with the matter. Trump signed the pardon yesterday. Wednesday, the people said, though no official details have been published. Damn it. I was hoping to get all this, the interesting details here. But anyways, CZ pleaded guilty, as you know, back in November of 2023 to one count of failing to implement an adequate anti money laundering program at Binance. So my understanding was people could have used the VPN and signed up from a jurisdiction in which maybe they weren't licensed or weren't allowed to and they could have made more clear measures to prevent that from happening. But is he a criminal? At the end of the day, not my opinion. So more power to cz. Personally, I'm a fan, yeah. I mean I like cz, but I know some people don't like them or they don't like any centralized exchange CEO. And FY is no longer a CEO. He had to step down. That was like a part of the, the deal that they took, you know, I mean, to avoid going to prison for whatever they were recommending, maybe 20 years or life. But I look at people like cz criminal. Yeah. I mean he purposely misled investors, stole the money and invested it in bad things and got caught with pie in his face in the sense he lost. And then people's crypto was stolen and everyone got screwed. And we're talking about, you know, one of the biggest frauds in financial history, cz. Maybe he didn't apply the proper anti money laundering measures adequate enough for the Biden administration. But did he purposely mislead people? No. Did he purposely steal from people? No. Did he even steal from people? No. Did he do anything to hurt you? No. You know, I mean, so you know, like I said, more power to him. I think that's a good pardon. I, I'm much happier to read that CZ got pardoned than the diddler or Bankman Fred, because that would be a nightmare if you're to ask me. But there's my rant. Let me know your thoughts on CZ being pardoned by Trump and how, what exactly will that equate to or mean? Because obviously my understanding was when you're pardoned, it's because you're in jail. He already served jail time? I don't know, he did like 60 or 90 days in a, in a cell. And he was considered the wealthiest man to ever serve any jail time. Just FYI, richer than Pablo Escobar. But yeah, I mean, next story of the day, fam, check it. Turkey's 200 billion crypto boom built on speculation that's right. Turkey emerged as the leading crypto market of the Middle east in North Africa in 2025, with volume significantly outpacing those other markets including the United Arab Emirates. Turkey, which has grappled with a high inflation in the recent years, dominated this market the past year, recording almost 200 billion in annual transactions, according to the latest regional report by Chainalysis published today. Meanwhile, the UAE, the region's second largest market, lag far behind with crypto volumes of 53 billion, four times smaller than those of Turkey. Still, according to Chain analysis, Turkey surge in crypto volumes have been fueled by speculative activity then sustainable adoption. The 200 billion in annual crypto transactions in Turkey alone outpace the combined crypto volumes of those other markets, including in Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Morocco as well as Israel. Unlike the uae where Chainalysis observed a shift from crypto being primarily a speculative asset to its growing use as a practical payment solution, the majority of the Turkey crypto volume has been driven by a surge in speculative activity. I mean here's the top countries in that region M E N A by total value received and there's nothing even remotely close to the 200 billion numbers Turkey's putting up. The UAE 50 billion, Egypt less than INAS goes, you know, become minuscule. Addressing the increasingly speculative nature of Turkey's crypto adoption chain Alice is highlighted. A surge of the ALT trading measured by the 31 day moving average which jumped from 50 million in late 2024 to 240 million mid 2025. Meanwhile, Turkey's altcoin rise marked a significant shift away from the prior preference for stable coins which has historically dominated the country's trading volume. According to Chainalysis, Turkey stablecoin trading volume saw a notable plunge of the 31 day centered moving average, dropping from above 200 million in late 2024 to only 70 million this year mid-2025. The timing of this ALT surge coincides with the broader regional economic pressure, suggesting that the trend may reflect a desperate yield seeking behavior amongst remaining market participants. Turkey's crypto market is concentrated in institutional transactions.

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Cmnobile.com which dominate the surge while retail trading dropped dramatically, the pattern likely suggests that while Turkey's economic challenges drive adoption amongst large players seeking inflation hedges and currency alternatives, it is perhaps reducing the capacity of everyday Turkish citizens to participate. Meanwhile, Turkey's speculative crypto trading has driven much of the region's growth as a whole, but still lags significantly behind other markets. According to chain analysis, this MENA region saw 33% year over year growth, trailing Asia Pacific region at 69% in Latin America at 63%, which is the fastest growing regions globally as outlined right here in the chart. MENA also lagged behind other regions such as Sub Saharan Africa, North America and Europe posted higher growth rates of 55% and 50% and 43% and amongst the top crypto jurisdictions the US ranks second in the report trailing India. And I would dare say probably due to the population of India, I dare say it's the most populated country in the world. Can someone verify that? I would assume it'd be India and China with the biggest population. But us, even though we're not the biggest, obviously still one of the strongest, I don't know in the US I'm going to speculate. Maybe there's 350 million. Can someone verify that for me? Crazy stuff needed for bitcoin to reach 250 this year, according to Galaxy Digital's Mikey Novogratz. Planets would almost need to align, he says, for bitcoin. Okay, so it's a skeptical prediction. I see several crypto execs have recently doubled down on their 250 Bitcoin predictions by year end. The end of the year is only two and a half months away. Well, that's accurate, he said on cnbc. There would have to be a heck of a lot of crazy stuff to really get that kind of momentum. Well, we've seen it before and I also want to throw in here. Eric Trump, the son of the President, says that bitcoin may be going to 200,000 by the end of 2025. He's been very vocal about that. He's also spoken on stages projecting bitcoin hitting a million dollars per coin. So I mean, we shall soon see f around find out. But anyways, Novograph said that in the worst case scenario, bitcoin should hold around 100, a key psychological level. It first broke back in December of 2024 after the Trumpster was reelected U.S. president. Novograd said the 100,000 price level or somewhere close to that should be the downside. Let me know you agree. Disagree. Bitcoin came close to retesting that level not long ago. We did hit 106 a couple of days ago. And yeah, October 10th was the massive crash to 102. But we have not tested 100. 100 has been holding strong. But on the upside you don't really accelerate until you take out 125. Well, now it's 126. Right. The all time high recently achieved. Referring to the bit. Yep, that was October 5th. So the most likely outlook is we are rangy between 100, 120 or 125 unless we take out the top side. And that's the key, of course we're going to take out the top side. Bitcoin's ultimately a sniper. One shot, one kill. But it comes in peace. And love that was just a metaphor. Novograt said potential triggers are pushing through the all time high level again would be Trump moving to influence the fed prematurely or if the crypto market structure bill known as the clarity act passes this year. Those are the two kind of catalysts I see. He said the wider crypto industry has been keeping a close eye on the fed decisions on the interest rates as a bullish catalyst for bitcoin. After cutting its first rates for this year in September, there's roughly 97 odds of the Fed cutting rates again October 29th. We can look forward to that next week because that's six days out, right? That's going to be Wednesday. On other crypto executives, they say they're hopeful Bitcoin surged to 250 by the end of the year. Speaking on the bank list pod we did actually cover Arthur ha's blaze suggesting a million dollar super cycle. Uh, he also said we can easily hit 200,000 and 250 by year end. So though novogratz, the luna pumper is, uh, skeptical, the OGs know what's up. Shout out Arthur Hayes. Just blaze. And if you missed yesterday's episode, go watch it after this one's over. However, some analysts aren't that concerned about the bitcoin price action being up at the end of the year. For example, plan C. Anyone who thinks bitcoin has to peak in Q4 of this year does not understand statistics or probability. Well, anything can happen. Bitcoin's on its own trajectory. Also, there's the theory of the extended cycle being this is unprecedented. We've never seen bullish presidents besides bukele up until recently. Like Trump, his family, the entire white house. The cryptos are. They're all bullish. And we got baron Trump. As long as baron's bullish, we're golden. You, I mean shout out Pam Powers. Appreciate a repost now for our feature story of the day. Bitcoin is the CIA's greatest scam, claims Tucker Carlson. How dare he? My Greta thunberg voice. But yeah, Tucker reignited one of bitcoin's most charged debates. Privacy, providence and the politics wrapped around the origin by telling an audience on his this is the turning point tour that he believes the asset traces back to the u. S Intelligence community press. During an open mic q a on whether he invests in bitcoin and whether he views it as a viable asset, Tucker said he supports the principle of financial self determination but fears what he describes as a widening gap between the ideal and the implementation. Quoting him here. I love the idea of bitcoin because I love the idea of financial autonomy, he said, framing his stance in civil liberties terms rather than price speculation. He says I don't want what I buy or sell to be tracked. I don't want my money to be tracked. It's nobody's business, said Carlson, who noted he had spoken at multiple bitcoin events. I spoke at a bitcoin conference, actually last year. I spoken at a couple of the bitcoin conferences. Cass himself as philosophically aligned with the original cypherpunk promise while distancing himself from the market's practical realities. The fulcrum of his critique is surveillance. Quoting him again, it turns out that it is not to this point a way to conduct financial transactions privately at all. Duh. It's called the blockchain transparent. And that really freaks me out. He says he extended that worry to the broader rise of digital money warning programmable account restrictions could be used as instruments of political discipline. Well, he definitely makes a point there. And that's exactly what the stablecoin act, stable coins and CBDCs do. But to fud bitcoin or throw it in the same category, you know better, Tucker. He says, I am really afraid of a digital currency because that's totalitarian and control. And if you punish people, you can zero out their bank account and keep them from eating. Yeah, like they do now with our legacy banking system, bro, you'll have total obedience. That's totalitarian. Correct. Remember what they did to the Trump family? They debanked them. Right. They froze all their accounts. What did they do to some others? Julian Assange, Same thing back in the day. That's why Stacy brought up bitcoin back in December of 2010 when it was, you know, 23 cents per coin. Who else we got there? The Tate brothers. They got debanked. Remember that? They could do that. With the existing financial system. The only thing they can't shut down, stop or freeze is properly secured. Btc.

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Seaman mobile.com so this tells me right off the rip, he's fighting bitcoin. That tells me he's an enemy of mankind, an enemy of humanity. Enemy of bitcoin. But let me continue. Carlson's skepticism is not directed at bitcoin's aspirations alone. He tied it to generational economics, political economy, arguing the young Americans completely screwed the job market, have turned the crypto as an upward mobility vehicle. He said he hopes. And the promise pans out. He says, I'm praying for them. I hope that's true. But warned it could develop into a similar alliance of financial beneficiaries and the politicians they control. As he put it. I fear that it will become, like so many other things in our country, a scam of sorts run by a coalition of financial beneficiaries. Yeah, the bitcoin hodlers are the beneficiaries and the politicians they control use it for further their control of the American society. As Max said, he who has the bitcoin makes the laws. Come on now. On portfolio choices, Carlson was categorical. I'm a gold buyer. I'm the gold guy. Would Peter Schiff rot his brain? I've been vindicated big time in that. It was good enough for the Phoenicians. It's good enough for me. Come on now, Tucker. He framed his approach as a discipline of. I wonder if Tucker is a bitcoin whale in secrecy like Jim Kramer and the rest of the Fudster. It just makes you wonder. He says, in general, don't get involved in anything. I don't understand. Did you not have Max Kaiser, the high priest of bitcoin, on your program? And you're still going to claim you don't understand it? What are you, stupid? I try to limit myself to things I understand. The sharpest thing he said was a question turned to Satoshi. For Tucker, the synonymous crater unmoved. Early coins attributed to satoshi remain decisive obstacle. He says, nobody can explain to me who Satoshi was, the creator of bitcoin, this mysterious guy who apparently died. But nobody knows who he was, he said before delivering the claim that will dominate the headlines. Dude, that was 17 years ago, bro. Come on now. You know I grew up in D.C. primarily in a government family. So CIA. My guess can't prove it. Well, guess what? We have confirmed. I've done a deep dive into this. A long time ago, uh, his father was CIA. He used to deny it, but even now, more recently, he admits it. So being his father is the CIA. That means he was born into the CIA and he's fudding the bitcoin, hence enemy of humanity. Anyways, he pressed the point as an investor's threshold question. You're telling me to invest in something whose founder is mysterious? That's a benefit, that's a feature. Do you know if he wasn't anonymous, we'd probably not have bitcoin today. The forces of evil and the the three letter organization your father worked for would have weaponized that and destroyed and crushed it a long time ago. But the fact the crater is, you know, anonymous, that's the beauty. There's no attack vector. And I know you're not that stupid, Tucker, so stop the FUD bullshit already. Carlson's remarks interweave several long running bitcoin controversies. First is the bitcoin privacy model. Zcash is a privacy model. Monero is a privacy, you know, blockchain. There's a couple other ones out there. Bitcoin, that's not the reason people use it. Bitcoiners know it's not private. We're not an idiotic argument, Tucker. Second, the origin risk, the unresolved identity of Satoshi, again that's a feature, that's a benefit. And that's why they can't stop or shut down the bitcoin, right? So I don't look at that as a bad thing. So you mean to tell me just because we can't identify who he was, therefore it should not be used and just discredit Bitcoin and call it a scam? You Tucker. Now for context, this is not the first time Tucker floated the intelligence origin theory around Bitcoin. Now my understanding, just FYI, he's basically saying obviously it's the CIA, so he's spreading the fud. You don't want people to touch it. He's spreading the lizard folk agenda in my humble opinion. And I'm going to share a bonus from Max KAISER Regarding the CIA, but my understanding was that I think the Shaw 256 protocol had some layering with the CIA. But does that mean Satoshi or the CIA invented Bitcoin itself? No, those are two different things. But let's hear from the high priest because he chimed in with a post earlier and I'll read it to you. He shared this on X. No, the CIA did not invent Bitcoin. And then it's a grok response here. Did the CIA invent bitcoin? No, the CIA did not invent Bitcoin. And let me actually entertain this being it's you know, our topic of conversation today. So yeah, here we go. Bitcoin's actual origin Satoshi white paper introduced October 31, 2008 we all know that first block mine why the CIA theory persists the theory often stems from satoshi's obviously anonymity known as Satoshi Lena speculation early cypherpunks Hal Finney which had worked at the PGP Corp which had NSA scrutiny but no CIA link misinterpreted documents 1996 NSA paper called how to make a mint cryptography of anonymous electronic cash discuss digital cash ideas decades but Before Bitcoin a 2018 FOIA related CIA talk mentioned blockchain years after bitcoin existed none of these imply invention. The NSA paper predates Bitcoin by 12 years describes theoretical systems not bitcoin's design and then here's all the evidence against CIA invention. CIA created bitcoin as a honey pot reality. That's a claim, a false claim reality. Bitcoin's fully transparent. Every transaction public surveillance tool would be covert, not a public ledger. Claim number two Satoshi equals the CIA code name. No evidence Satoshi's writing style, code or timestamps match a lone cryptographer not a CIA agency Government needed bitcoin for control Truth Bitcoin was designed to bypass central authorities the opposite of the CIA go goals who likely invented bitcoin. And then there's some speculation here but I'm not getting into all that right now. But there's the story. Surprise surprise, not surprised at the same time. But let me know your thoughts surrounding Tucker as we continue to pump it up now up 3500 on the day and I'm going to read your comments because I find this conversation interesting. It is the only thing the gold only call the other scam Bitcoin. Exactly. If you're a gold bug and you're heavily invested in gold, that doesn't mean you have to call bitcoin a scam. Then us bitcoiners should just say, you know what with that level of logic is this retard Gold is a scam. It's only up, you know, maybe a couple hundred percent in the past decade or two. That's a scam. And bitcoin's up millions of percent. So clearly gold is a scam. We all know fiat is a scam. We all know the Federal Reserve is a scam. We all know the government is a scam. Scam. What's not a scam? Only one thing comes to mind. Bitcoin. Bitcoin Bitcoin. If I had a samurai sword, I'd demonstrate what a scam looks like. Mr. Tucker, the force is strong in JV's office right now. You better watch yourself. That's not a threat. I'm just saying stop spreading the fud, bro. But there you have it. I mean, bitcoiners are smart enough to see through the. You know, I mean. But again, not surprised. I always viewed him as controlled opposition. And that's exactly what controlled opposition does. They typically pretend to be the enemy against the bad things, but they're really working on the same team, so it's controlled. And then when they're delivered a note from a passenger pigeon. In this case, Tucker. Yeah, they got to spread the fud. They're just doing the agenda of the lizard folk. But that's my two satoshis. Let me know your thoughts. And don't forget to check out bitcoin news alerts.net for the full premium experience with video and to participate in the live stream along with the Q and A. And I look forward to seeing you on tomorrow's episode. Hoddle.

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