2151: Michael Saylor Predicts $20M Bitcoin – Panic Triggers $1.1B Liquidation

Summary

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Episode 2151: Michael Saylor Predicts $20M Bitcoin – Panic Triggers $1.1B Liquidation
Date: October 30, 2025
Host: JV (Bitcoin News Alerts)

Episode Overview

This episode covers a tumultuous week for Bitcoin, with a $1.1 billion liquidation event in crypto markets, sobering technical analysis, ETF outflows, and big-picture reflections on Bitcoin’s place in the global economy. JV dives into new predictions from Michael Saylor, including a staggering $20 million long-term Bitcoin target and a $150,000 call by year’s end. The podcast also explores macro factors such as the Fed rate cut, major political meetings, and large-scale movements by institutional holders.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Massive Market Liquidation and Correction

• Event: Bitcoin experiences a severe correction, dropping over $4,200 in a single day.
• Quotes:
  • “Mass liquidation event unfortunately in crypto here today. $1.1 billion liquidated in 24 hours. The numbers are probably even higher now as we continue our correction.” – JV ([03:08])
• Market Stats ([04:35]):
  • Bitcoin: Down 3.3% on the day, trading above $107k.
  • Ethereum: Down 5%, barely holding $3,700.
  • XRP: Down 6%, $241.
  • Solana: Down 7%, $180.
  • Total crypto market cap: $3.59 trillion (“took a big flush, a deuce as they say in the hood.”).
  • Bitcoin market cap: $2.13 trillion, still small compared to gold’s $30 trillion.

2. Technical Analysis Rundown

• Hourly, 4H, Daily, Weekly, Monthly ([06:27] to [08:29]):
  • Charts show cascading red candles, no bullish targets in short or long timeframes.
  • October likely to close red despite being historically bullish; hope pivots to November.
  • “October’s historically the second most bullish month... But the silver lining here is November is only two days out, which is historically the most bullish month of the year.” – JV ([08:34])

3. Largest Liquidation Event in Crypto History

• Scale: $1.1 billion in positions wiped out in 24 hours ([08:50]).
• Fear and Greed Index: At 34 (fear) now, from neutral last month ([06:27]).
• Quote: “One of those two red candles... was the most bearish liquidation event in crypto history.” – JV ([07:59])

4. ETF Outflows Amid Rate Cuts & Market Uncertainty

• Details:
  • Bitcoin ETFs lost nearly $500 million on Wednesday.
  • Fidelity FBTC led outflows with $164M, ARK with $143M, BlackRock’s iBIT with $88M ([13:28]).
  • Grayscale: $65M outflow, Bitwise: $6M.
  • Total ETF AUM: $249B, about 7% of BTC’s market cap ([13:53]).
• Quote: “US listed spot Bitcoin ETFs shed almost 500 million on Wednesday... the outflows have also reduced cumulative net inflows to 61 billion.” – JV ([13:30])

5. Institutional and Large-Holder Shakeups

• Nakamoto Holdings:
  • Shares collapsed by 98% since May due to PIPE deals unwinding ([16:05]).
  • Holds 5,765 BTC ($653M), 19th largest public holder ([18:10]).
  • CEO David Bailey aiming to merge ventures (Bitcoin Magazine/conference/210 Capital) into Nakamoto.
  • “That’s quite the drawdown from $25 in May to 94 cents” – JV ([20:08])
• MetaPlanet: Announced a $500M share repurchase after its BTC-backed NAV fell ([20:24]).

6. Long-Term Hodlers Offload and Market Dynamics

• Action: Long-term Bitcoin holders dumped 325,000 BTC in October, the biggest whale drop since July ([21:09]).
• Interpretation: Indicates profit-taking or repositioning amid uncertainty. Suggests capital may rotate from patient holders to new market participants.
• Quote: “This wave of distribution marks a significant shift in the market dynamics, suggesting that even the most patient of hodlers are realizing profits or repositioning amid growing macro uncertainty.” – JV ([22:45])

7. Geopolitics: Trump-Xi Meeting and Tariff Uncertainty

• Summary: Trump and Xi met in South Korea to discuss tariffs and ease trade pressure, with little real progress ([24:32]).
• Skepticism: JV questions the substance of these negotiations, implying that elite interests are manipulating markets:
  • “Personally I think it’s all by design... the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and it’s all by design.” – JV ([28:16])

8. Michael Saylor’s Bullish Bitcoin Price Predictions

• Saylor’s Forecasts: ([29:53])
  • End of 2025: $150,000 per BTC
  • 4–8 years: $1 million per BTC
  • 20 years: $20 million per BTC
• Saylor’s Rationale: Bitcoin’s annual average return projected at 30% per year.
• Quotes:
  • “Without batting an eye, Saylor said this end of the year target 150000 per Bitcoin.” – JV ([29:53])
  • “He believes that bitcoin’s average annual rate of return is going to be 30% per year over the next 20 years. And that’s how he gets to $20 million per coin.” – Co-host ([30:20])
  • “I think Bitcoin is going to continue to grind up. Volatility is coming off of it and the industry becomes more structured with more derivatives and ways to hedge it. Our expectation right now at the end of the year it should be about $150,000.” — Michael Saylor, CNBC interview ([30:46])
• Memorable Moment: JV riffs on Saylor’s journey: “He went from $400 million to $71 billion in five years. Now that trend will only continue to grow according to Saylor...” ([33:23])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It was a flash crash short lived and then we jumped right back to 116 like it was no thing but a chicky wing.” – JV ([03:08])
• “Bitcoin represents the most volatile market ever. If you don’t have the stomach... you’re not tall enough to ride the ride.” – JV ([15:25])
• “Desperate times equal desperate measures, you know, not good look right now with the economy and there’s a lot of uncertainty. I think it’s all engineered FUD by design to control, manipulate the market, which will lead into our next story.” – JV ([23:08])
• “I rock the tin foil yarmulke.” – JV ([26:46])

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:08 | Start of mass liquidation event discussion | | 04:35 | Market stats and comparison to gold | | 06:27 | Fear and Greed Index, technical analysis begins | | 08:29 | October’s rare red close, historic context | | 12:53 | Bitcoin ETF outflows and specifics | | 16:05 | Nakamoto Holdings PIPE deal collapse | | 21:09 | Whale (long-term hodler) offloading analysis | | 24:32 | Trump-Xi summit coverage | | 29:53 | Michael Saylor’s bullish predictions and rationale | | 33:23 | Saylor/MicroStrategy’s massive BTC-driven transformation |

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Recap/Conclusion

JV closes by emphasizing the maturing nature of Bitcoin — less volatility, more predictability, and greater institutional acceptance — while warning listeners about the ongoing macro and market manipulations. Michael Saylor’s spectacularly bullish price targets underscore the episode, serving as a rallying point for long-term Bitcoin believers, even as the current climate reflects fear and uncertainty.

Final Thoughts:
JV encourages listeners to "stack hard" and “stay sovereign,” expressing optimism about November’s historical bullishness and reiterating Bitcoin’s unique long-term potential. As always, he maintains a raw, skeptical, and humorous tone, inviting debate and community input on the show’s boldest predictions.

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Transcript

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Bitcoin fam to the number one daily Bitcoin pod. In today's show I'll be breaking down the latest technical analysis. Unfortunately as you can see market has been crashing. I know we billion being liquidated within 24 hours and the correction continues. As you can see Bitcoin down over 4,200 already on the day. In today's show I'll be breaking down everything you need to know including Bitcoin ETFs post 470 million of outflows as the Fed cuts the rates and the rate cut was actually officially yesterday and markets did not react well to say the least. Also in today's show we'll be entertaining the Giga chat himself Michael Sailor suggesting bitcoin long term prediction 20 million per coin also by the end of the year fourth quarter he's suggesting 150000 here as we're still in the thick of it Novemble right around the corner. Also tomorrow very significant day. It's the 17 year anniversary of the Satoshi White Paper. Also we're going to be discussing long term Hodlers dump 325,000 in Bitcoin, the largest dump since July of this year. Also the Trump she meeting in S. Korea to ease trade pressure as well as strategy. You know their latest targets and what they're doing. Nakamoto holding stock collapses 95% after their recent deal. All this plus so much more right here in today's show. If you're new to the rumble, you.

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Smash the likes. Give us a follow. It's free to do so and hit the repost over on X. The account handle is BTC news alerts today is pod episode 2,151. I'm your host JV mass liquidation event unfortunately in crypto here today. 1.1 billion liquidated in 24 hours. The numbers are probably even higher now as we continue our correction. We're still down roughly 4,000 on the day but silver lining we're still maintaining well above 100,000. We already touched 103 previous crash. It was a flash crash short lived and then we jumped right back to 116 like it was no thing but a chicky wing. But here we are. Deja vu. But silver lining Novemble two days out and tomorrow is the 17 year anniversary of the Satoshi White Paper. So happy hoddle wean. And with that being shared, let's kick it off with our market watch as we do each and every day. Pulling up coin360. Should be able to see on your screen right here. Bitcoin still down 3.3% on the day, trading just above 107 at the time of the live we ether down 5%, barely holding on to 3700. XRP down 6%, trading at $241. Salana down 7%, trading at 180. And even BNB down 5% on the.

[Co-host]

Day, trading above $1,050. And checking out coinmarketcap.com total crypto market cap took a. Unfortunately we're all the way down to 3.59 trillion. I should say took a big flush, a deuce as they say in the hood. And the bitcoin market cap today 2.13 trillion. Which is insane in the membrane if you're to ask me how small the overall bitcoin market is. And crypto in general when compared to let's say gold which has close to a 30 trillion market cap, you know, so there's still a lot of room for growth. We're still early is what I'm trying to say. Even though Bitcoin's now about to be 17 years old officially tomorrow, at least the white paper. So yeah, very interesting. But anyways, checking out top 100 crypto gainers past 24 hours we got Meme Core leading the pack followed by Tether Gold followed by Pax Gold and that's because virtually everything is unfortunately took a flush from the deuce, if you know what I'm saying. And checking out the crypto bubbles visual perspective on the day don't look so visually pleasing. Unfortunately virtually everything in the red minus M up 11.1%. At least it's a good omen. I like reading 11s and checking out the weekly it's a little better but barely. Zcash and Trump Coin seem to be doing okay on the week alongside virtual hbar. That's pretty much it. Most the alts pretty wrecked. Checking out the monthly unfortunately it gets worse. Some of these respectable coins down 20 to 70%. Uh only a handful in the green again including Zcash doing its thing up 319% on the month. And checking out the yearly does it get any better? Yeah but barely. Still bulk of this market in the red.

[JV]

The only handful of gainers that are really respectable here alongside all the wrecked altcoins are ZCAs, HBAR, XLM and XRP Nbnb. And if you don't know now you know. Checking out the Crypto Greed and Fear index today it's a 34 fear yesterday 51, last week at 27 and last month of 50 which is neutral. First up I'm pulling up the one hour chart. Not looking so good. We did bottom out at around 106 and we're currently just above it at 107. We're way below the moving averages and there's no bull targets on the screen like we saw yesterday in the show. Checking out the four hour taking a quick look doesn't look much better. We're way below the moving averages. Three consecutive four hour cascading red candles followed by a little bounce currently with a green after we tapped 106.

[Co-host]

Will we go lower?

[JV]

That's the million dollar question and there's a strong probability we do. How low will she go? You tell me in the comments. Checking out the daily 34 cascading red candles downwards were way below the moving average. But the silver lining on the daily chart we do have a bull flag sent at 146.

[Co-host]

That's the good news.

[JV]

Checking out the weekly as we're approaching.

[Co-host]

The weekend here, unfortunately.

[JV]

Another big red candle. Last week we finally got a green candle close after a couple of bear.

[Co-host]

Very super bear.

[JV]

In fact, it was the most bearish.

[Co-host]

Liquidation event in crypto history. One of those two red candles and.

[JV]

Then we got the green corrective and.

[Co-host]

Now we're going downwards once again.

[JV]

No particular bull targets on the weekly chart. Next up, take a quick look at a monthly the monthly chart does show we are in the red for October. So unless things do a complete 180.

[Co-host]

Here between today and tomorrow, we're likely to close in the red.

[JV]

This is very disappointing considering October's historically.

[Co-host]

The second most bullish month out of the year. But, but the silver lining here is November is only two days out, which is historically the most bullish month of the year.

[JV]

And so yeah, bitcoin risked a 20 to 30% drop as crypto markets liquidate.

[Co-host]

1.1 billion in the past 24 hours.

[JV]

Bitcoin saw new weekly lows at today's Wall street open as stocks shrugged off the macro tailwinds. Dan Crypto trades wrote bitcoin.

[Co-host]

Another test of 107 still in the range as we speak. All levels to watch the low to the high 103 Wick low 107 local range low and support 111 mid range and high volume node 116 range high resistance.

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[JV]

Crypto joined US stock markets after the Fed rate cut which was official yesterday. I mean many of us were anticipating.

[Co-host]

A pump lo and behold the polar.

[JV]

Opposite happen and assets are crashing but they're still the dilio with President Trump and she allegedly supposed to be meeting.

[Co-host]

Up this week to agree on some.

[JV]

Things with the tariffs that may flip things and change things. There's still a government shutdown and we're going to dive deeper into the Trump.

[Co-host]

And she meeting which is supposed to.

[JV]

Be coming up here soon.

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But anyways, he says we agreed on.

[JV]

Many things with others even of high.

[Co-host]

Importance being very close to resolved. Meanwhile, government still shut down.

[JV]

The S&P 500 and NASDAQ both opened.

[Co-host]

Down on the day while gold actually had a gain climbing back to 4,000 per ounce. Peter Schiff doing backflips in Dorado, Puerto.

[JV]

Rico High liquidations characterized crypto struggle as Trader Macro bets unraveled.

[Co-host]

Data from coin glass indicated 24 hour liquidations as I referenced earlier, reaching 1.1 billion. The silver lining there, that's an 11 baby. Let's get it to 1.1 million per biddy, shall we and comment on the outlook.

[JV]

Crypto Nuevo said Bitcoin's just repeating usual.

[Co-host]

Behavior around the Fed rate meetings. Nothing to worry about in terms of market structure or trend price retracing, new imbalances created this evening. He also noted the price filled this latest weekend gap. That's true. I think it was 111 the CME gap. So we went beyond closing that one.

[JV]

So other perspectives were a lot less relaxed. Another trader Roman, warned that Bitcoin was failing to follow the stocks even during periods of upside. Their trend reversal could spark another price route. Let me know if you agree or disagree. Also, Coin Glass confirmed the October 2025.

[Co-host]

Was now red, which I referenced earlier.

[JV]

For bitcoin for the first time since 2018.

[Co-host]

So it's been seven years since we've had a red month for October.

[JV]

So this is very, very rare though.

[Co-host]

The question to me becomes is that going to make November that much more bullish to make up? Let me know. And yeah, also the average gain in.

[JV]

October since 2013 has been 20.

[Co-host]

So this is absolutely an outlier month for October, unfortunately. But it is what it is and.

[JV]

There you have it. But anyways, next story of the day.

[Co-host]

Bitcoin ETFs post 470 million of outflows.

[JV]

As the Fed cuts the rates while they proceed to cut the mustard. Peter Schiff cuts the cheese. Miss the freeze and Trump talks trade and we'll break all this down right here. US listed spot Bitcoin ETFs shed almost 500 million on Wednesday so this is yesterday's numbers as the price of bitcoin fell to 108 before recovering. According to the far side data, Fidelity's FBTC led the exodus with 164 million. Following Ark investors arc B, we saw a pullback of 143 million. BlackRock's eye bit rounded out the top.

[Co-host]

Three with 88 million of outflows.

[JV]

Meanwhile, Grayscales GBTC recorded 65 million in outflows while the Bitwise Bitcoin ETF saw.

[Co-host]

A relatively minor loss of 6 million.

[JV]

The drawdown came after a few days.

[Co-host]

As a steady gains with 149 million.

[JV]

Coming in on Monday and 202 million on a taco Tuesday. The outflows have also reduced cumulative net.

[Co-host]

Inflows to 61 billion.

[JV]

Total assets under management have declined 249 billion representing less than 7% of the Bitcoin market cap. The price of bitcoin has been adrift.

[Co-host]

And say the least between 108 and 113 and today back down to 106.

[JV]

So it's been pretty wild of a ride. It fell despite the U. S Fed decision to cut the risk interest rate cut 50 or sorry, 25 basis points it appears to have gained after the meeting between.

[Co-host]

Oh, so they did meet Trump and president Xi where they discussed trade tensions between the countries in the past, analysts shared the flows into the ETFs are linked to the prices of the tokens with a rally in early October stemming from large inflows into investment vehicles. Despite the outflows, ETFs hold more than one and a half million worth which is 169 billion representing 7% of the total Bitcoin supply. Meanwhile, Black Rock's eye bit leads the pack, the wolf pack, you know, Nipinator really leads the wolf pack with 8005000 Bitcoin. That's insane. So Ibit Blackrock, they're up to 8005000 Bitcoin. Fidelity has second place with 206,000 000 and Grayscale the third largest with 172 000. And of course if we include Mr. Saylor, his company has I'd say roughly 700 000. Let me see if I get that.

[JV]

They don't have the figure in front.

[Co-host]

Of me, but I know it's one of the largest but it's not considered an etf. So it's not the same category but.

[JV]

I dare say it's BlackRock leading the.

[Co-host]

Charge number one with Ibit over 800, 000 Bitcoin.

[JV]

Then it's going to be Michael Saylor.

[Co-host]

Strategy probably ballpark, 700 plus thousand Bitcoin. And just between those two companies, that's over one what? 1.3 million Bitcoin, which is a pretty significant piece of the pie referring to the overall supply of how many bitcoins there can ever be in existence, which is 21 million. And we all know 4, 5, 6 million potentially lost, gone, stagnated, stalemated forever making Bitcoin that much more scarce. Bitcoin represents the most volatile market ever. If you don't have the stomach, the project, the vomit producing roller coaster rides, you're not tall enough to ride the ride.

[JV]

Next story. Nakamoto holdings shares sync as 563 million pipe deals trigger massive sell off and if you're not familiar with Nakamoto Holdings, Bitcoin advisor of Trump is this guy named David Bailey. He's the CEO of Bitcoin magazine and he's also the CEO of Nakamoto Holdings. So this is obviously not good for him. But I'm going to read you what's happening. The bitcoin treasury firm led by Bitcoin Magazine CEO David Bailey seen its stock collapsed by over 98% since its May high after a wave of investors selling linked to 563 million private investment and public equity deals. That's why we call them the pipe deals. The company which merged with Utah based healthcare operator Kindly MD earlier in the year, became one of the few publicly traded firms structured as a bitcoin holding company. Remember he was flexing, saying they were going to kick off their treasury with I think he said a billion dollars worth of bitcoin. And then a few days later they made like a purchase of like a half a billion. It was like between 500, 600 million. Well, its financing model involves selling heavily discounted shares to private investors. Sounds like following the sailor put to fund the bitcoin purchases. However, it backfired when a large batch of the pipe shares became eligible for.

[Co-host]

Sale, so the investors dumped it.

[JV]

The resulting flood of the sell orders cratered the stock price, erasing billions of market value just like that.

[Co-host]

Now Bailey, known for his prominent role.

[JV]

In the bitcoin community and ties to President Trump's pro crypto push, has framed.

[Co-host]

The downturn as far as part of the long term play.

[JV]

People are just looking for a trade.

[Co-host]

They're actually very expensive capital for us.

[JV]

Calling for long term aligned partners.

[Co-host]

Well naturally nobody wants their stockholders to dump and that, you know, obviously impacts the company tremendously.

[JV]

But despite the route, Nakamoto continues to.

[Co-host]

Currently hold 5765 Bitcoin Valed at 653 million on the balance sheet, meaning they're.

[JV]

The 19th largest public holder.

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Semen mobile.com, a Bitcoin number one being strat and this is excluding the ETFs number one is strategy 640,000. Number two Mara holdings with 53, 000 and then 21.

[JV]

Jack Mueller's you know company is 43,000.

[Co-host]

Followed by Meta Planet at 30,000 and again 19 for Nakamoto holdings. Bailey said he plans to fold several of the other ventures including Bitcoin magazine. Interesting.

[JV]

The Bitcoin conference and hedge fund 210.

[Co-host]

Capital into Nakamoto to bolster the company cash flow and strengthen its position as bitcoin first conglomerate.

[JV]

The company's stock which trades already on.

[Co-host]

The NASDAQ with the ticker Naka Naka remains at a steep discount relative to its holdings of Bitcoin and currently trading at around 94 cents down from the May high of 25 bucks. Damn Gina and my Martin Lawrence impersonation here.

[JV]

That's quite the drawdown from 25 in.

[Co-host]

May to 94 cents, according to data from Yahoo.

[JV]

Meanwhile, Nakamoto is not the only bitcoin holder facing a lot of pressure. Tuesday, Meta planet announced a 75 billion yen share repurchase program.

[Co-host]

That's roughly a half a billion USD. After the price fell below the company's.

[JV]

Bitcoin back net asset value, the board approved the buyback to allow the firm to repurchase up to 150 million shares.

[Co-host]

Through the Tokyo Stock Exchange until October of 2026. Meta Planet's M Nav recently dipped to.088 before rebounding like a young Dennis Rodman at 1.03, prompting the company to pause new bitcoin purchases.

[JV]

And it currently holds 30,823 BTC worth.

[Co-host]

Three and a half billion dollars. And if you've been waiting for the Nipinator indicator, there you go. The bottom is in Bitcoin heading to 10 billion per coin by this evening. Thank you Nipinator.

[JV]

But anyways next story Yo Bitcoin long term Hodlers dumped 325000 BTC this is the biggest monthly whale drop since July of this year. That's right. According to fresh data from the crypto quant, the long term Hudders have been actively selling throughout the past month, a trend that points to ongoing distribution phases in bitcoin cycle. Over the last 30 days these seasoned investors offloaded a significant amount of the BTC signaling profit taking behavior after months of accumulation earlier in the year. Now, while the short term traders watch for potential breakout, the sustained selling pressure from the long term huddlers introduces a layer of caution. Still, analysts note that such distribution patterns can occur during mid cycle transitions when capital rotates from patient hodlers to new participants. How Bitcoin reacts to the Fed announcement, I mean it didn't react well, but then again really nothing did. According to the data shared by these analysts, long term huddlers already offloaded 325000 Bitcoin over the past month, the sharpest monthly drawdown since July of this year. This wave of distribution marks a significant shift in the market dynamics, suggesting that even the most patient of hodlers are realizing profits or repositioning amid growing macro uncertainty. Historically, such large scale long term huddler sell offs tend to occur near the key market transitions either during late stage stage rallies or deep consolidation phases where capital begins rotating back into circulation. The timing of the distribution is particularly notable, coming just as bitcoin consolidated from the 112113 range and we obviously took another leg lower here today as we're currently sitting just above 107. We already touched 106 before getting a little bouncy bounce back, but yeah, bitcoin facing rejection as the the bulls defend key support right now.

[Co-host]

Silver lining though, we did close the.

[JV]

CME futures gap at around the 111 mark which we entertained the other day, you know, and we were Speculating. Will it retrace back, close the gap?

[Co-host]

Well, it absolutely did, but it may drop even lower.

[JV]

Let's see if 100,000 maintains. You guys let me know. But yeah, the long term hodlers, which are considered the whales, have been dumping according to the data. And another example was, you know, with the Nakamoto holdings, a lot of the shareholders dumping, you know, desperate times equal desperate measures, you know, not good. Look, right now with the economy and there's a lot of uncertainty, I think it's all engineered fud by design to control, manipulate the market, which will lead into our next story. Let's continue. Famine lamb again welcome those just joining us. Next story. Trump and President Xi meet in South Korea to iron out the tariffs that sank crypto this month. US President Trump and Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping have met face to face in South Korea to stabilize relations and resolve tariff tensions. But apparently there's still a lot of tension. Before the bilateral meeting, Trump indicated that the parties are showing signs of alignment, stating, we've already agreed to do a.

[Co-host]

Lot of things and we will agree.

[JV]

To some more right now. Want me to translate that? We don't agree upon. There's been no deals made whatsoever. But we're just going to tell you that. So you guys have a little faith.

[Co-host]

In what I'm doing.

[JV]

I think we're going to have a fantastic relationship for a long period of time, said Trump in the White House Thursday. The rapid response 47x account confirmed that the meeting has since wrapped up. And they wrote here, President Trump meets Chinese President Xi in South Korea. What the are they doing in South Korea? You'd think he'd meet in China or she would come visit maybe at the White House. So I'm, you know, that seems to complicate the situation. What's going on here? I think we're going to have a fantastic relationship for a long period of time and it's an honor to have you with us. I'm skeptical. Anything coming from the government? Highly skeptical. And where's my tinfoil hat? It's under the yellow one. I rock the tin foil yarmulke. Of course, just like the Nip. Trump's use of tariffs since returns to the White House, combined with China's retaliatory limits on exports of rare earth elements, have fueled fears of an economic slowdown, with some of the most severe tariff implementations triggering crashes of the market. You can say that again. That included the October 10th market crash where Bitcoin whipsawed from 121203 insane, right? And reports from the mainstream media state that neither the US Nor China want to risk the stabilizing the world economy, warranting an in person meeting to decide how to best move forward with the tariffs. U.S. officials have signaled that Trump doesn't intend to follow through with his threat to impose an additional 100% import tax on Chinese goods. That sounds like a oxymoron if I know one. It's like why would the US Officials even say that? As if the Chinese are and don't read commentary, you know.

[Co-host]

Yeah, like does that, does any of this make any sense whatsoever?

[JV]

I'm so skeptical with all this.

[Co-host]

Trump has met several other leaders in.

[JV]

Asia over the last week, including officials in Malaysia which has become manufacturing the export hub for the bitcoin miners headed.

[Co-host]

For the U.S. the U.

[JV]

S currently imposes a 19 tariff on Malaysian exports. The tariffs have sparked considerable uncertainty for the U. S Bitcoin miners who rely on imports of South East Asia while the rare.

[Co-host]

Earth export limits from China have raised.

[JV]

Concerns over potential supply chain disruptions for the AI hardware.

[Co-host]

And there you go, yo. And next up, I always save the best for last.

[JV]

The latest from the gigachad Mr. Mikey Saylor and his predictions.

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Seaman mobile.com but first let me know your thoughts.

[JV]

What the is going on between these negotiations with the trade tariffs and the markets? Personally I think it's all by design to the average person and you know, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and it's all by design. I don't think it's like oh my God, coincidence oh no, you know, to me it was all plotted probably months if not years ago. And are they really trying to resolve things? In my opinion, no. They're probably trying to make things worse so the market gets worse and they can continue to manipulate, continue to take advantage and for the poor people to get poorer and the rich people to.

[Co-host]

Get richer and anything they claim is.

[JV]

But that's just the way I translate things. I'm different, you know. Again, I rocked the tinfoil yarmulke. But let me know if you agree. Disagree. That's just me keeping it one hunt. Now the moment you've all been waiting for. Our features the way the day. So Sailor was just interviewed on Crypto World. I believe that's on cnbc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was on TV and they asked him what are your latest bitcoin price predictions, Michael? And without batting an eye, Sailor said this end of the year target 150000 per Bitcoin. Considering Bitcoin's currently at 107 at the time of the live, that's practically 140. I'm sorry, a 43000 gain from the current price action which is actually pretty bullish if you put it into perspective considering there's only 60 days left in the year. So that's what Michael thinks will happen.

[Co-host]

Over the next four to eight years.

[JV]

Which means between the next one to two cycles. But the next having occurring in 2028, he believes it's going to be a million per coin. I dare say that's pretty conservative but very realistic at the same time. And then long haul. He considers this long term.

[Co-host]

He said over the next 20 years.

[JV]

Bitcoin is going to be over 20,000 per coin.

[Co-host]

And he said this without batting an eye.

[JV]

He believes that bitcoin's average annual rate.

[Co-host]

Of return is going to be 30% per year over the next 20 years. And that's how he gets to 20 million per coin.

[JV]

So with that being shared, there was also just an article published why 71 billion dollar Bitcoin behemoth referring to strategy.

[Co-host]

Is still betting on Bitcoin hitting 150000 this year in the fourth quarter. We're in the fourth quarter. Send it $43,000 pumpy pumpkin. Let me know if you're ready.

[JV]

So yeah, it was a chat with.

[Co-host]

Cnbc at the Monday 2020 FinTech. So earlier in the week in Vegas, bitcoin Bull Sailor highlighted diminishing volatility with a clearer market structure as reasons for the Optimism. Quoting them again. I think bitcoin is going to continue to grind up. I've been grinding all my life, all my life grinding all my rest in peace, nip hustle. Volatility is coming off of it and the industry becomes more structured with more derivatives and ways to hedge it. Our expectation right now at the end of the year it should be about 150 000. Let me know if you agree disagree with Mikey Sailor. Now bitcoin has jumped nearly 54 since last year and I think we got to jump practically another 50% to hit the target, stabilizing above a hundred thousand as it changes hands currently at 107. It was 111 Wednesday. As we continue our correction here in the future, Sailor thinks even bigger. Quoting them here. I don't know why it won't grind up to a million dollars a coin over the next four to eight years and of course my long term forecast is it goes up about 30 a year for the next 20 years and we're headed towards $20 million per Bitcoin. The Strategy frontman called the last 12 months the best in the crypto industry's history, citing the White House's endorsement of Bitcoin as the digital goal, the SEC's expectation support of tokenized equities, and the Secretary of the Treasury's acceptance of stable coins. So regardless of the price, Sailor said he and his firm will be buying the top forever Laura. Or in other words, purchasing the prelo bitty regardless how high the price goes because the price is irrelevant now. The Tyson's Corner, Virginia based firm has already amassed the treasury of more than 71 billion worth of Bitcoin. And guess what? Guess what? Back before he adopted Bitcoin for what was formerly known as micro Strategy back in 2020, being the first publicly traded company to do so, the company was only worth 400 million and he described his balance sheet and fiat as a melting ice cube. Guess what with bitcoin ain't no more melting ice cube, bro. He went from 400 million to 71 billion in five years. Now that trend will only continue to grow according to Sailor, who added that he didn't know why for forward thinking companies wouldn't hold digital assets on the balance sheet. Exactly. You got to be in to win, you got to jump in to swim Light was dim in this life of sin Every day I wake up and breathe I don't have it all but that's all right with me. A little Mac Miller bars for you. But anyways, let me know if you agree disagree with a Giga shad regarding his conservative predictions. 150 end of the year next 60 days just blaze with Arthur Hayes Yahtzee Mofos Nipinator indicator 20 million average rate of return 30 per year over the course of the next 20 years 1 million per coin within the next 48 years 1 to 2 cycles Holler and I'll read your comments out loud. Welcome everyone to the Q A segment of the live stream. Bitcoin's mature in that means less volatility, more predictable returns. Return of the Dragon how many bitcoin are there? The math is 276 cubed so just over 21 million ever 3.6 million estimated to be permanently lost 1.1 million original Satoshi wallets never moved 1.5 million yet to be mined 15 million BTC pretty accurate.

[JV]

Greg's pretty always pretty accurate. Probably only ever be 15 million if you basically discount the lost stagnated stalemated bitties which will never move which may include the Satoshi 1.1 million stashy stash. It's more scarce than you think. And don't forget to check out bitcoinnewsalerts.net for the full premium experience with video and to participate in the live stream along with the Q A. And I look forward to seeing you on tomorrow's episode. Hodl.

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