Investing in the security tech market with NightDragon. [T-Minus Space Daily Special Edition]

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Podcast Summary

CyberWire Daily – T-Minus Space Daily Special Edition

Episode: Investing in the security tech market with NightDragon
Date: January 19, 2026
Host: Maria Ramazas
Guest: Dave DeWalt, CEO of NightDragon

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Episode Overview

This episode features an in-depth discussion with Dave DeWalt, CEO of NightDragon, focusing on the intersection of investment, security technology, and the expanding domain of space. DeWalt explores NightDragon's philosophy on investing in security tech companies, with a particular focus on their support for Hawkeye 360, recent industry developments, and the unique cybersecurity challenges and opportunities emerging in space technology.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

NightDragon's Investment in Hawkeye 360

• Ongoing Partnership:

  • NightDragon has worked with Hawkeye 360 and CEO John Serafini for nearly five years, participating in almost every funding round, most recently co-leading their Series E.
  • “We've been honored to partner with John Serafini. He is rare leader in all of technology, quite frankly, and especially in space and security, national security.”
    – Dave DeWalt [03:35]

• Strategic Growth:

  • The current investment round is viewed as pivotal for Hawkeye’s crossing from growth company to a player preparing for public opportunities and acquisitions.
  • Acquired company ISA to sharpen signal processing capabilities, not just expand satellite infrastructure.
  • “Preparation for public opportunities and acquisitions... The company's got a real opportunity to drive value for its shareholders. But also, and maybe just as important, create a mission of securing our world.”
    – Dave DeWalt [03:35]

The Value and Power of Signal Intelligence (SIGINT)

• Hawkeye’s Core Tech:

  • Uses clusters of low Earth orbit satellites equipped with software-defined radios (SDRs) to capture and analyze RF signals globally.
  • Focused on signal processing with AI to recognize patterns of life, differentiating between various types of ground-based signals (from “dark” ships to GPS jammers).

• Efficacy and Global Significance:

  • “This company has really created an unbelievable database of patterns of life recognition... Hawkeye360 has very, very high efficacy, very, very low false positives, very strong patterns of life recognition.”
    – Dave DeWalt [05:42]
  • The platform is now a critical apparatus for SIGINT worldwide, adopted by many nation states, and positioned as vital infrastructure for both defense and peacekeeping.

NightDragon’s Broader Space and Security Tech Investment Approach

• Security Tech Across Five Domains:

  • NightDragon invests in solutions addressing air, maritime, land, space, and what DeWalt calls “the invisible domain” (cyber, AI, quantum).
  • “Space meets cyber, cyber meets supply chain... You tip and cue these SIGINT platforms to work together across all domains.”
    – Dave DeWalt [08:10]

• Space as a Strategic Frontier:

  • Emphasizes the geopolitical and economic importance of securing space, likening the current era to a new “race to the Moon.”
  • “Whoever controls space and can secure space really is going to have an incredible economic advantage as well as a national security advantage.”
    – Dave DeWalt [08:10]

Portfolio Integration and Cross-Domain Collaboration

• Other Portfolio Examples:

  • Capella Space: Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) used for imaging in adverse conditions, especially useful during the Russia–Ukraine conflict.
  • Saronic: Maritime and swarm drones providing signal capabilities and mutual tip-and-cue systems with space assets.

• Unified Tech Vision:

  • NightDragon encourages collaboration and interoperability between portfolio companies, providing integrated solutions across domains.
  • “What can we do to bring all our portfolio companies together, have them work together, really augmenting SIGINT platforms around the world and response in a way that enables the latest technology?”
    – Dave DeWalt [12:35]

The New Frontier: Cybersecurity in Space

• Unique Challenges:

  • Space assets face classic cyber risks — hacktivism, crime, espionage, terrorism, and outright warfare — now targeting satellites and infrastructure.
  • “I call it silicon the satellite. How do we think about securing silicon the satellite? And if we don't think about silicon the satellite for security, bad things can happen.”
    – Dave DeWalt [15:32]
  • There's a dual threat: space assets both being hacked and turned into platforms to launch cyber attacks.

• Designing Security In:

  • A call for native, resilient security starting at the hardware level for all new space assets.
  • The convergence of “invisible” cyber/AI/quantum threats with physical domains requires new defense models.

Looking Ahead: 2026 and the Call for Collaboration

• The Year of Major Transitions:
  • DeWalt predicts 2026 will be a “crossing the chasm” year for space—pivotal for security, politics, economics, and military interests.
  • “It takes a village. We need public-private partnerships... Everybody’s gotta work together if we’re gonna secure this domain and create economic advantages for everybody on the planet.”
    – Dave DeWalt [17:38]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Hawkeye 360 mission:

  • “Create a mission of securing our world... helping to create a better world that we live in.”
    — Dave DeWalt [03:35]

• On the future of space tech:

  • “Whoever controls space and can secure space really is going to have an incredible economic advantage as well as a national security advantage.”
    — Dave DeWalt [08:10]

• On cybersecurity in space:

  • “Have we built the satellites, the communications, the infrastructure so it can't be hacked? ... If we don't think about silicon the satellite for security, bad things can happen.”
    — Dave DeWalt [15:32]

• On partnership and industry-wide vigilance:

  • “It takes a village. Right? We need public private partnerships. ... Everybody's gotta work together if we're gonna secure this domain and create economic advantages for everybody on the planet.”
    — Dave DeWalt [17:38]

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Key Timestamps

• [03:35] – NightDragon’s partnership and investment vision for Hawkeye 360
• [05:42] – The importance and efficacy of SIGINT and signal processing in space
• [08:10] – NightDragon’s broader investment thesis in security tech and space as a strategic asset
• [12:35] – Portfolio integration: Capella Space, Saronic, cross-domain innovation
• [15:32] – The unique threats and opportunities at the intersection of space and cybersecurity
• [17:38] – 2026 as a milestone, the need for public-private partnerships

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Episode Tone

The conversation is forward-looking, collaborative, and mission-driven. DeWalt’s enthusiasm for technological innovation and integrated security solutions shines through, while Maria Ramazas keeps the dialogue focused, technical, and probing. Both express optimism and a sense of shared responsibility for the challenges ahead in space security and technology.

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Transcript

[Maria Ramazas]

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[Maria Ramazas]

Sigint, or Signals Intelligence is the practice of intercepting and analyzing electronic signals like phone calls, emails, radar or telemetry to gather actionable intelligence for national security, defense and military operations. It's primarily conducted by agencies in the United States like the nsa, but over the last decade we have seen many companies in the commercial sector break through in this vital area of national defense, especially in space. Now who is investing in these companies? Well, we ask the experts. Welcome to T Minus Space Special Edition. I'm Maria Ramazas. NightDragon is an investment advisory firm that focuses entirely on the security technology market. They recently led a Series E funding round for Hawkeye 360, which is the first commercial company to detect, geolocate and characterize a broad range of RF signals from a growing constellation in low earth orbit. My guest today is Dave DeWalt, CEO of NightDragon on investing in technology and space.

[Dave DeWalt]

Greetings everybody. Dave DeWalt here. I'm the founder and CEO of Nightdragon and former multi time CEO in the security tech world. And thank you for having me. Maria.

[Maria Ramazas]

It's my pleasure Dave. Thank you so much for speaking with me today. What brings us together is a conversation that I actually had with John Serafini in December about Hawkeye360 hitting their series E with Night Dragon support and it just felt like a great time for me to bring you in and sort of get the Night Dragon point of view on this great news. So if you wouldn't mind telling me a bit about that series and Night Dragon support of Hawkeye 360.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah, Maria, I wish I could have done it with John that would have been fun to have it. Yeah. We've been honored to partner with John Serafini. He is rare leader in all of technology, quite frankly, and especially in space and security, national security. We've been working with the asset for, gosh, coming up on close to five years and have watched the company grow and expand under John's leadership. And we really had a lot of kind of feelings about different segments in space we can get into later. But Buckeye360 is a very unique asset. As you know, we are very proud to lead or co lead the most recent round, which we participated in nearly every round that they've had. But you can really see the company crossing the chasm. And that is a testament to the hard work of the team, but also the partners and investors and the whole community supporting Hawkeye. And it's been a lot of fun to see him doing preparation for public opportunities and acquisitions which was part of this round. We acquired a company called isa, as you know and he talked about. But the company's got a real opportunity to drive value for its shareholders. But also, and maybe just as important, create a mission of securing our world. And that is really something Hawkeye excels at, is the mission of being able to help to detect bad things happening on the planet, tipping and queuing that to various responses and saving people's lives and helping to create a better world that we live in. So it's been an honor.

[Maria Ramazas]

Yeah, yeah. And I definitely want to put a pin in Night Dragon's interest in the space industry. I want to put a pin in that and go back to that. But before I get to that, I wanted to stay on Hawkeye360 for just a moment because I am super interested with the ISA acquisition about the emphasis on improving signal processing versus merely just adding satellite capacity. And I'm curious if you could tell me more about the strategy there.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, certainly first of all, for the listeners here, Hawkeye360 specializes in low earth orbit SDR. So software defined radios that essentially are doing radio frequency management on Earth. Signals coming from the ground. We now have 12 clusters, 13 clusters up and running across the world. We've got some powerful revisit rates really covering most of the planet at this point. We'll continue to expand that, but really signal processing is at the heart of it and AI and software is the core of that. And this company has really created a unbelievable database of patterns of life recognition around ground based RF emissions. So knowing the difference between a ship in the ocean that is dark and perhaps have its AIs transponders turned off and you might be hearing or listening to a push to talk radio on the ship, to perhaps an aircraft that's flying commercial versus military, or a GPS jammer, or just about any signal coming off the ground. These patterns of life recognition really helps create a very powerful way of creating response to whatever anomalous behavior might be occurring with those patterns of life. So to use your phrase, signal intelligence, that signal intelligence, the faster you can identify it with the greater accuracy and efficacy, creates a very powerful platform and proud to say Hawkeye360 has very, very high efficacy, very, very low false positives, very strong patterns of life recognition, creating it a real important apparatus to all the SIGINT platforms around the world. Now many nation states are using this platform and it's become, you know, I believe, a vital piece of infrastructure for, you know, not just the world to use, but to create peace, like I mentioned as well. With a platform like theirs going back.

[Maria Ramazas]

To sort of, you know, Night Dragon's interest in segments of the space industry, I can see how, given how you're describing what Hawkeye 360 is doing and that efficacy you were talking about with sigint, how it also fits into the larger picture of what nightdragon is interested in and the kind of companies that you all invest in. And I'm curious if you could tell me a bit more about Nitragon's interest specifically in space.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah, Maria. So again for the listeners for 30 seconds, Night Dragon is an investment advisory firm. We focus entirely on the security tech market. So security tech, much like biotech or fintech, is essentially focused on all five domains of security, particularly risks and threats happening across all five domains. So we're talking about space, obviously, but certainly other areas like air and maritime are important to us ground and land based systems. And then also the invisible domain, I like to call it, which is cyber AI quantum areas. And as we're knowing, Maria, like these are all morphing together a bit. And space meets cyber, cyber meets supply chain, supply chain meets space. You know, maritime meets space. And you tip and cue these SIGINT platforms to work together across all domains. So to answer your question, Night Dragon focuses in on deploying capital into security tech companies. We've really focused largely on the biggest threats and risks in all those five domains. And particularly in space. We see national security areas as extremely important. We believe that space is a frontier now that's becoming incredibly important. Not just incredibly important already is it is the future of our geographies, our economies, our infrastructure. The race to the Moon is incredibly important, as you know and I've always spoken about. But whoever controls space and can secure space really is going to have an incredible economic advantage as well as a national security advantage. So we see this domain as extremely important to the future of mankind, and certainly from an American point of view, an American future as well.

[Maria Ramazas]

We'll be right back.

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[Maria Ramazas]

I'm wondering about so Nike Dragon's ongoing support of Hawkeye 360. Maybe how that investment interacts with other portfolio companies of yours.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah, quite a few in fact. Maria we also had an investment we did similar timing called Capella Space which you know. Capella focused in on Synthetic Aperture Radar or SAR technology, another microwaving kind of set of capabilities that allowed you to see through clouds and at night. Particularly important with the Russian Ukrainian conflicts which had heavy cloud cover and oftentimes missions during nighttime. So Synthetic Aperture Radar is important. Hawkeye partnering and tipping and queuing between RF signals and that of taking images of the ground through clouds and at nighttime was extremely important. They continue to work together now. Capella we sold, we had a great exit to a quantum company which is a whole conversation into itself. But a company called IonQ, which was a public company, acquired Capella Space. But it was really important because we see a lot of threats and risks to communications. And as you know, probably the most killer application in space right now is communications. Next generation communication. Most of our fiber optic cables on the ocean floor are slowly but surely moving to space. We're seeing next generation communication platforms coming and really being needed to serve this entire planet. And at the heart of communications is secure communications. So, you know, Capella's capabilities with SAR and comms, coupled with quantum based encryption and resiliency became important. So that's just to name two of them. We also have quite a few other companies involved this with maritime and air domains as well. A company called Saronic, which makes maritime drones and swarm drones. These have the ability to do RF signaling from the maritime domain, but also tipping and queuing to space domains as well. So if you see something in space, you can tip and queue to maritime. Maritime can also create a response platform there as well. But we see that integrated to just every domain at this point. So Hawkeye becomes an epicenter of a lot of signaling processing. But also these other domain and portfolio companies we have as well, signaling back and forth, working together as one. And that's really our Nightdragon vision. What can we do to bring all our portfolio companies together, have them work together really augmenting SIGINT platforms around the world and response in a way that enables the latest technology, cutting edge technology, to really survive and thrive. And that's what we're all about here at night. Dragon.

[Maria Ramazas]

That's awesome. And I'm also wondering, I don't often get to talk to people who have such a great vision into cybersecurity as well. So I have to ask a space cyber question. I'm curious, as you were mentioning, about the importance of space connectivity and securing space communications. What interests you in the realm of space cyber, if we want to call it that right now?

[Dave DeWalt]

Oh, a vast array of threats and risk. Maria. As you know, I was CEO of FireEye and Mandiant before that. McAfee. You know, I've 20 years of knowing breaches and issues related to this domain. And when you think about cyber, you know, we first watch, you know, kind of hacktivism, give way to crime, crime give way to, you know, some sort of espionage, espionage give way to terrorism, give way to warfare, warfare in the form of disruption and destruction of assets. And now we have a whole range of dangers happening in that cyber domain. Apply that to space and it's A pretty scary world. So you start with, are these platforms secured by design? Have we built the satellites, the communications, the infrastructure so it can't be hacked? How do we help solve that problem? I call it silicon the satellite. How do we think about securing silicon the satellite? And if we don't think about silicon the satellite for security, bad things can happen. So the first thing is design of security natively in to make sure what we put up in space has resiliency to threats and attacks. And we've watched this during these various conflicts around the world. But aside from that, you start to then go to weaponization from space. We're now seeing a lot of capabilities from space as well to do hacking from space as well. So not only can they be hacked, they can hack. So the power of these platforms are really interesting, Maria. As next generation, invisible domains kind of meet these new domains. And I have to say, I just love being in the middle of it. It's a mission to be a part of it. I'm just thankful for Night Dragon and the to give us a capability to hopefully make a difference in the world.

[Maria Ramazas]

Well, that's fantastic. Well, thank you for sharing your expertise and your vision with me, Dave. And I'm just thrilled that I finally got a chance to speak with you. I want to make sure I give you the last word. If there's anything you want to leave our audience with that we didn't talk about but you wanted to mention. I want to give you that chance.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah. I mean, I would just say, you know, 2026 is going to be an interesting year from a lot of point of view. Exciting. I always use the adage, may we live in interesting times, which is a curse, potentially and a blessing. And so being vigilant at these times is really important. And my main message to you as part of saying that is it takes a village. Right? We need public private partnerships. We need partners like yourself and the media to help create education of the issues and the risks and the threats. But everybody's gotta work together if we're gonna secure this domain and create economic advantages for everybody on the planet. So I think 2026 is kind of a crossing the chasm year. And it's a big year for space. It's a big year for threats and political, military, otherwise economic. So again, I'm just proud to be a part of it and look forward to being part of the village.

[Maria Ramazas]

Thank you so much, Dave. Thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate it.

[Dave DeWalt]

Yeah, thank you, Maria. Thanks for having. Me.

[Maria Ramazas]

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