Ben (DJ B Sec) (58:06)
All right, now we're. Now we're in a good place. Now we can have some fun. Some. There's some interesting. I always. When it comes to. When it comes to the news, even when Jerry's doing it, when all I hear stories about this company, bought that company that. Like this. That's not. I know it's a CISO series and it's supposed to be. It's more tailored towards Season. Supposed to be tailored more towards CISOs. But I mean, there. There are other stories out there that we don't necessarily. Didn't know that ServiceNow was buying this or buying that. That's. It's almost more like a marketing ad. But anyway, that's. That's my take on that. All right, what do we got today? It is the night before Christmas, and all through the house, everybody's running around, even the mice. Let's see, what do we got in chat here? What's this? I see a question in here. So is it true you need Adobe Pro to do redactions called the Adobe license? I don't know what that is. I'm not sure what the. That question's about. Yeah, there's no. Nothing tomorrow. And as far as I know, there's nothing Friday. Hold on just a second. I didn't realize these stories were. Yeah, well, Anita, that's. So that's the whole point. The. It's called the CISO series, so their whole. Their whole series is supposed to be tailored toward CISOs in that sense. So they have the headlines, right? CISO series headlines. They've got a whole. In fact, on their website. I'll pull their website up real quick and show you Their. Their whole site is tailored toward. Supposed to be tailored toward CISOs in that sense. It's called the CISO series. There you go. So they have the cyber Security headlines. They have Cyber Cyber Friday where they talk, they've got security. You should know these are all different things. Defense in depth, how CISO should talk to the business and so forth. The whole series is supposed to be towards CISOs and the cyber security headlines is supposed to give a quick headline to CISOs. But I mean they're, it's relevant for everybody. It's not just CISOs that, that are going to sit here and read this. So, Bearded ruckus, how do you like being in a management position compared to your previous roles and what are things you weren't expecting to be part of your role now? Okay, good question. So the role I've, for me was just a title change. It's still the exact same role that I've been in for the last 15, 20 years. Just a title change within the company. When it comes to my specific role and what I do, I deal with everything, everything under the sun, it, security, so forth, vendors, right, contracts. So all of that stuff. Been doing that for, for years and years and years. So for me it was just a, it was just a title change. Now when it comes to being like boots on the ground versus being management, it's a whole, it's a whole different mindset, right? So boots on the ground, where you're fixing the problems day to day, you're, you're being more reactive than proactive and that's where the mindset has to change. When you move into a management role, there needs to be more proactive and you have to have time to be able to, to be more proactive to, to reach out to other departments to think about what needs to change, how you can help them, how they can save money through technology, different things. So the roles, the role changes in the sense of mindset. I guess that's, that's the best way to describe it. If you have, if you have that mindset of hey, I'm, I'm just going to move into this role and I'm going to make more money and continue, continue to do what I do. It's not going to work, right? You've got to be able to have the mindset of being a proactive person, that that's basically what management becomes, is the proactive. How are we going to grow the business? How is the business going to better for me being in this position versus just a worker that's sitting at the desk and helping everybody out? I guess that's the best way I can describe that as a proactive versus reactive. I guess that's That's a good way of coming up with it. See if there are any other questions that I missed that were above before I go back down. Is the music too loud and not loud enough because I hear it in my ears. I just don't want to. Don't want to be blaring. You got. In fact, let me look and make sure I pull it down so. There. That way it's not so bad. All right. I saw one earlier. Yeah, I think justin gold just answered this one. If you had a chance to take either comptia sec, AI plus or isaca crisc, which one would you take and why? So I haven't actually looked at to see. Hold on a second, let me. Oh, okay. So the certified Risk and Information Systems Control. Here's what I would do. I think Justin Gold probably hit it on. Hit it on the nose with this. The ISACA is probably going to give you more right up front. So being having the ISACA certified Risk Information Security or Information Systems certification is a very good one to have. I don't know. I think sec. The SEC AI plus is brand new, so there might not be a lot of headway around that yet. That doesn't mean that it's not bad and it's probably good just to take if you want to just take it and get the information. But on a resume, if you're looking to pad the resume of hey, this is the cert I have and this is what I've done. I would probably go with ISACA first because it's been around a bit longer. This. That actual certification has been around longer. Seamindoza. Okay. I guess is semen doze. Are you. Are you new to the channel? This is the first time here. Do we have a welcome to the party pal? Even though if you're not new, you got welcome to the party pal. My background so I've been in it for over 20 to 25 years. I started when I was 18 and I'm way older than that now. Last year I got my CISSP. I worked through. Over the last 20 years, I've been in many different industries. So I worked in oil and gas. I've worked in logistics. I've worked as a. I started off as a help desk. Just straight up help desk. Worked on a. Worked with a company or at a company that was 100% help desk all over the place. And I worked for. At the help desk. I worked for the pharmaceutical industry during my time there. But yeah, I've been in the industry for 20, 25 years and kind of worked my way up through being a network engineer. So got all of my Cisco certifications, got ccmp, did not go for a ccie, but got my CCMP and continued to mosey on in about 20. You know, when Covid hit and everybody was at home, I got involved with this group and another group and was basically realizing just how involved in security I already was and didn't realize it, which a lot of you out there probably don't realize just how much, how involved you are with the security side of it. But then last year in 2024, I went and got my CISSP. So that's, that's my little, my little background. There's that one. Let's see what else we got. Oh, this is interesting. So 40 of the, that AI exam is securing AI. So here's, here's an interesting. And I heard this yesterday. I was watching something. Many people just start using quote unquote AI, meaning you're using Chat gbt, you're using Claude, you're using Gemini, but you don't necessarily know how the backside of it works. You don't understand how LLMs work. And that would be, that'd be something good to know, right? Is what, how the LLMs work, why they do what they do. You know, why, why they go off and give you random, random answers sometimes. And that will also help you find the areas within AI that you can secure. Marcus is saying the music is good. See, of course, gracious saying the Comptia is useless. I saw somebody else, FedEx is saying the higher you go, the farther from away from the keyboard you get. Oh, it depends on what company you're in, right? Because you can have a, a high, a high title and being a small company and you're still doing everything. I mean, I know people that are in startup companies, in smaller companies that their title is ciso, right. But they are in, in the mix day to day on everything. They're configuring things, they're putting things together. Their title says that they should be, you know, being that all, all in all, everything up top. But what they're doing on a day to day basis isn't that they're doing the technical grunt of it just like everybody else. Anybody got any other questions? I see the chat has, chat has basically died off. And I know it is Christmas Eve and every guess what everybody's running around getting ready for, for the day, getting ready to either have family over or go over to family. Jerry was a little bit reluctant on doing, doing these Shows this week and next week because we know everybody's, everybody's out. But I told him, hey, look, I'm off. I can fill in for you if you want me to. We can, we can put a show together. We may get 10 people, may get 20 people, we may get 200, who knows? But at least we're still trying to bring value. Oh, man. Bring value in, in one way, shape or form and letting people know because, hey, as everybody knows in here, this is not a, this is not an industry that stops right on a, on a day to day basis. It doesn't stop. You know, I did have a. I saw this earlier. Adult filmmaker. What a name. Wow. Does it do MFA N8N. So N8N in itself, you're going to use API. Oh, you're going to use APIs and connect in connections between everything. Or you should be using APIs to connect things, not using your direct accounts. But you're going to use APIs and so forth. Using N8N to be able to do the information, to be able to automate in one way, shape or form. I'm sure there's MFA in place in one way, shape or form. You should have something like that in there. But if you're using APIs and so forth, you, you'll lock it down in another way. What she said, I don't know. Let's see, Let's see. What? Find the true said, but I'm not sure what it is. Okay. All right, so I just got word that there, Daniel Lowry is going to have a show Friday. So if you, if you're still here, there is going to be a show. Let's see, there's gonna be a show on Friday. Daniel Lowry is going to do the show Friday. So there will be one Friday. We just won't have a show tomorrow. Christmas day. We won't have a show tomorrow. Thank you, Kimberly, for checking in on that. I thought we were gonna be out for today and tomorrow or not today, tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. But Daniel Larry has, is gonna pick the baton up and, and keep running. Right after I trip and fall in my face, the baton goes everywhere. He's gonna pick it up and keep on running. See, The dreaded hoser says Merry Christmas to all. Everybody be safe. Enjoy the day. Yes, have fun. Don't do anything that I wouldn't do. Everybody's wishing everybody Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. Got tech ninjas. Oh, this is a good one. So, Michael saying, do you still pursue study of any cert slash course? And what is your motivation? To further study. So I'll take the back question, I'll take the last question first. What's my motivation? My motivation is always to learn, right? And in this industry and in this field, that is something we always have to do. Because what, what is good today is not good tomorrow. In this field, things change so fast on a day to day basis. So number one for me, it's always learning something. Right now it's learning. I'm very big into automation. I love automation. I love figuring out a way to automate jobs and make things a lot easier, quicker, more efficient. So one of the things I'm looking at is are Those platforms like N8N make Zapier. Zapier, however you want to say it for automation. Because basically you create your workflow and this is, you know, this is how I do this task. And then you put that in place in there and hit the button and go. And you're, it's good, right? Everything's done. You set your schedules and you're good to go. For me, the second part of this motivation is always to further, further excel, further gain knowledge in different types of technologies. Right now, is there a specific cert or course that I'm looking at? I, I am not looking at a specific cert or course at this time. I went through a lot of it last, last year with cissp, making sure that I got that that was big enough for me. And right now I'm just trying to make sure that I get all my credits in and everything for that. Because it's a big cert. You've got to make sure that you got 40 credits a year, or not 40 credits a year, but 120 credits and within three years. So basically breaks down to 40 credits a year to, to keep that. So that it was a big test to take. It's a, it's a long test and it's not one I want to retake. So that in itself is a, is a motivation to continue to study, to continue to learn of what's going on in the industry, what's up and coming, what are the, what are we seeing when it comes to adversaries and so forth. So there's not a specific cert that I'm pursuing. A lot of the search I look at, I'm like, man, that'd be nice to have. But I'm not sitting here going, oh, I have to have that cert right now. Awesome. I'm off today and I get to catch. Okay, well you know what? Just for that, welcome to the party because you got to, you got to actually catch the live stream. Yeah, that's exactly where you get tech run. We are going to get a post Christmas morning pour. So we will find out if Daniel Lowry shows up with his eyes half opened and a, a monster or if he's like pouring monster and coffee together after spending a day of Christmas with the kids and family and everything. Yeah. Kimberly says come back for, for the tech neck. Oh, okay. Completely. I get I read that wrong. So he's asking if we, if people use MFA with N8 in because you were saying Google accounts so similarly wondered if people were able to use it to do bad stuff to undo the security that they needed. So I mean, you're going to have MFA see if I can read this and get this right. I'm asking if people were using MFA with N8N because you're saying Google accounts are similarly and oh, so Google similarly. If I wondered if people were able to use it to do. I mean, so are people able to use it to do bad things? Yes, people are able to use it to do bad things because it's, it's just, it's a work, it's an automated workflow creator. So you're have your workflow when you're creating that workflow to Autumn for automation. So this platform is just doing the workflow workflow for you. Say that 10 times fast. You're just doing the workflow for you. Are they using mfa? There's MFA in place. I haven't gotten deep enough into it to, to connect all of these things. I know how it works right now I haven't actually used N8N right now because it, it costs and I'm not downloading and putting it in, in local. But I, I, that's one thing I do plan on doing in the next couple of months is getting a, getting an account and trying to mess with some of the things. One of the things I want to automate is the push to my website. So each day I have, I've created my own workflow that automatically goes out, grabs stories that I have chosen well once. I mean, I have to kick all this off mainly, but it grabs stories that I've chosen, takes those stories, throws those into chat GPT, creates a summary of them. When it creates that summary, that summary then is created into a markdown file. And with that markdown file, it also creates a, an audio file, mp4 using Edge AI voice and creates. So basically creates the markdown file and creates the, the MP3 MP4 file. MP3 file. It's MP3 file to go out and dump on my website. In fact, I'll sh. I can show y' all real quick. Let me get rid of this. So on the. On my site, this is one of the things we were looking at, trying to figure out which. The last time I did this on November 27th. But it. My workflow goes out and creates a site that has like. Basically it would be like our backup site, right. Our business continuity site when it comes to cyber stories in the morning. And I can kick this off and do it in about 10 to 15 seconds, as long as I have the stories and it'll create this for it. But if I have this automated, where it automatically does this, I don't have to worry about manually doing it every single day. But it goes and creates this file and then it creates this. This look. So if for whatever reason, CISO had a blip and they weren't able to put stuff out, I could put this out real quick and Jerry could use this as a. As the daily Cyber Threat brief. Right. So the last time I did this was on the 20th of November 27th. But I have all of this in place on. And I use. That's not it, but I have all this in place in my cyber security. I don't remember where it's at. Hold on a second. Let me see if I can find this. Here it is. Headlines. So I have all these in place in here, which. That's really tiny. I know y' all can't necessarily see this because it's small, but I've got in place on here my. My little headline script. So it automatically. Like this right here is the headlines. Wait, that's not it. That's a. There. It's under automation. All right, here we go. All right, so right here, which y' all are all going to be squinting because it's. I know it's small, but right here we've got Get Saved stories, then creates the prompts, creates chat GPT output, and then finalizes the news, automatically creates it. So I have all these in place now it's just a matter of how am I going to automate that. And using something like N8N or make or Zapier is something that Jerry and I talked about a year ago. But that's something that we could put in place. So it's automatic and it goes. And it just gets dumped in there. And if that happened. Right. If we set something up that way, then we would have our own stories that we're going through by looking at it. So. Now this one's. This is pretty funny. That's a joke of the day right there. If Die Hard is a Christmas movie, is Home Alone 2 a hacker movie? Since Kevin McAllister social engineered his way into the hotel, that's 100% yes. He social engineered his way into. Into that hotel, into that suite and racked up a nice big old bill of nice big old bill of. Of ice cream and everything else in that room. Oh that's pretty funny. I would agree with that. I would. I would 100 say that that is a hacker movie. A way to social engineering. Every red teamer should should watch Home Alone 2 and learn how to social engineer like Kevin McAllister did with his video recorder. That always cracks me up. Hi, this is Peter McAllister, the father. I'd like a sweet. I appreciate you parsing which type. Reading through chat here trying to see if there's anything in here to throw. Headlines. It has hardware hacking tool. There's a. I'll tell you that's one of my favorite ones, man. Like Home Alone 2 is my favorite. Oh Neckbeard had a voice changer as a kid. So instead of, instead of naked beard signing his his sheets, he actually called the school with his voice changer to say that my. My kid's out of. My kid's sick today, Man. Isn't that true? He. He is the, the goat of resourcefulness. I mean let me run down the street to my, to my uncle's house that has a hole in it. Oh and it's got bricks and everything else and I can. Let me go ahead and create, create this. What did Joe Pesci call it? His fun house of horrors or something. Oh, Kathy Chambers is in the house. She woke up grace us with her presence. Everybody's. I think everybody is, is in chill mode right now. Everybody's ready for the. I think everybody. I would just say I'm going to throw this out there. Does everybody's day kind of start like everybody's today? If you're celebrating Christmas and, and you're one of those. And you're, you're doing family things a day, does it kind of start around 12 o' clock wherever you're at? I think for me usually Christmas Eve is usually around 12 o' clock when every, when you start hearing everybody Russell going all right, we need to start getting ready to do this and to do that and we got to get out of here in the next couple hours. Everybody make sure you got a shower. Everybody make sure, you're. I don't know what I'm going to wear. And for those of you don't know, I'm, I'm in Texas and I know there's a massive heat wave going on across the US but it's freaking 80 something degrees right now. We talked about this. I think last week Kathy was on and Daniels. I think we did it on Friday. It's 80 degrees and it's gonna be Christmas tomorrow. It's ridiculous. I cannot, I, I hate it. Like I, I cannot stand. You can give me 80 degree weather all year long. I want it to be cold on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, you know what? And then the rest of every other day can be 100 degrees. I don't care. But give me like 30s and 50s. I say that's cold. I know some of you live to where it's like negative a thousand in South Dakota, but I'm just talking about, you know, like Texas cold. Like give me 30s and 50s where we actually get to wear, you know, things like this and not, not sweat our butt off just because we decided to walk outside for two minutes. The grass says his starts around 3 o' clock today. It's usually, that's usually when we're leaving and going and heading out. Christmas day and noon. Yeah, everybody, Everybody. I think everybody's in the Same boat around 12 o', clock, 4 o' clock around the afternoon is when everything kind of starts really getting going. Wait a second. It's 72 there. I thought you guys were supposed to be that. Y' all were supposed to get hotter today. I mean, it's 72 there right now. It's not gonna be 72 there this afternoon. Right? They're gonna be in the 80s too. Wait, what? Kimberly's gonna have like a Mai Tai and a little Christmas tree in her drink while she's sitting on the beach. That's not Christmas. But see, to me I'm like, that's not Christmas weather. Like we need, it needs to be cold. That, I mean, that said so real quick, we got about five minutes. Real quick. As my kids have grown up, they have had more snow days here. We've had more snow days here in Texas in the last. See, my son's going to be 18 in the last 18 years than we had had my whole life living here. Right. So I grew up. I remember one Christmas where it was cold and we had like, it had rained the night before and we had some ice on the ground. I was like, oh look, it's, it's Ice. My son's first. So when we got married, we. We got married in December. We went down to Jamaica for a honeymoon, and a cold front came through, and it was like 60 degrees in Jamaica during that time. We came back after the honeymoon, and it snowed. So the first. Like, the first Christmas we spent together as a married couple, it snowed. Then we had our son. It snowed that year. It had. I think it snowed five or six times in the last 18 years, which is unheard of here in. In Texas. And when I say snow, I'm not talking about, like, we got a couple of flurries. Like last year, it snowed so bad that we were. There was like two days, two or three days. Nobody left the house. The streets were iced over. We got about four or five inches of snow. I say it snowed so bad, everybody up north is like, oh, five inches. A big, big deal. But, yeah, it snowed. And we had a ton of snow for us. But that happens, like, in February. But that's happened more. More than not in the last 18 years. See, I'm. Yeah. I mean, for me, it's like Christmas. Not gonna say it sucks around here, but when it's 80 degrees, like when you have your kids and they open their gifts in the morning and then they go outside and they're sweating and they're riding their bike, that's just not. I mean, you don't get the whole Ralphie effect, right? You don't get to bundle all up and then go. I remember as a kid, because I got younger brothers, I was playing football in November, December, when it was cooler. And we always loved to throw on our big starter jackets. For those of you that are older and y' all know what I'm talking about, our big starter jackets. And we use those as our football pads because we could slam into each other because those things were so, so full of cotton. They would. But, I mean, he could slam each other and not hurt. Each. Hurt at all. But we would go. You'll play football in the cold. You're not doing that anymore. It's 80 degrees. It's like, we have. We have 80 degrees or we got snow nuts. There you go. I'm coming to see you today, neckbeard. 38 degrees. That's what I want. Yes. There you go, Anita Sailors. That's all I'm asking for. That's all I'm asking for for the month of December. Just give me an Ohio winter for the month of December. So snow equals babies. I don't know about Snow equal babies. Oh, give me a start. So you had my team when I was younger. Still. Still. My team is Notre Dame. I'm a big Notre Dame fan. Notre Dame and Texas, but yeah, starter jackets. Yeah, starter checkers are like bubble wrap. It's like not Ralphie. What's his brother's name? Can't remember his. Ralphie and I can't think of his freaking name. No knock. No nautical jackets? Nah, starter. It was starter jackets. It was all about how you represent your team in a big old bulky jacket, in fact. So I. I got mine when I was 10 or 11 and those jackets are so big that it still fits me today. Anyway. All right, it is 8:30. Oh, I've cut. Oh, Cousins of Notre Dame alum. Awesome. All right, that's gonna be it for me today, you guys. I hope everybody has a safe and happy holidays. Hope everybody ever celebrating Christmas today and tomorrow. Have fun. Have fun with the family. Enjoy it. Enjoy the time off. If you got the time off. If you don't have the time off, hopefully you're getting paid time and a half or. Or holiday pay, making the big bucks in the next couple of days. But for me, that's gonna be it for me today. No show. Again, no show tomorrow. We will have a show on Friday. Daniel Lowery will be here on Friday to have a show to bring you any. Any news that's happened probably over the last two days. If something big pops off, we always know that when it comes to the holiday season, we always end up seeing something big happen. And let's just all knock on wood and hope that that doesn't happen. That everybody gets through today and tomorrow without any big cyber issues or big issues at all. And everybody's able to spend time with the family, have fun and enjoy it. We find this outro. I never have this stuff ready. I like to. I just sit here and talk and then I'm like, oh, crap, I gotta go find how I'm gonna get out of here. Let's see. And we'll go with this one. Well, I don't know which one's right. All right, that's it for me, guys. Everybody have a safe and happy holidays. And I, if, if I'm awake, I may pop in on Friday and into chat and see everybody. Until then, everybody have a great. Have a great day. See you guys.