Ben Johnson wins the NFC North in first year | Bears - 49ers Recap

Summary

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Dan Bernstein Unfiltered on 312 Sports

Episode: Ben Johnson Wins the NFC North in First Year | Bears - 49ers Recap
Date: December 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Bernstein and his longtime collaborator, Matt Abbatacola, dig into the significance of the Chicago Bears clinching the NFC North early in Ben Johnson’s first year as head coach. The hosts analyze the Bears' close but encouraging loss to the San Francisco 49ers, what it says about the team’s trajectory, the evolving identity under Johnson, and rising expectations among Chicago fans. They also touch on defensive concerns moving forward, developing young talent, and contextualize the division title within the broader landscape of Chicago sports, splitting off into lively conversations about the Bulls, Cubs, and even the joys of leftover birthday cake.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• The transformation of the Bears’ culture and offensive identity under Ben Johnson.
• Why losing to the 49ers was unexpectedly encouraging.
• The meaning of the Bears’ rapid ascent to NFC North champions.
• Debating what to celebrate and how expectations have shifted in a single season.
• Reviewing the playoff outlook, roster needs, and how the Bears stack up against the NFC elite.
• Parallels to other Chicago teams and the joy (and dangers) of heightened hopes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bears’ Identity Shift Under Ben Johnson

• Adopting a Modern Offense

  • Dan praises Johnson's "too cute" play calling, emphasizing it's rooted in strong fundamentals, unlike past “cute” coaches who neglected basics.
  • Dan Bernstein [01:59]:
    “Ben Johnson is going to do things that are too cute and he doesn’t care. In his world, that’s just football... The cool thing about Ben Johnson cute is that it also involves blocking.”
  • Both hosts discuss needing to “get comfortable being uncomfortable” as Bears fans, adapting to a new, aggressive brand of football.

• Comparisons to Historical Bears Teams

  • It’s not Gary Croton or Matt Nagy’s “sideways bubble screen” offense—this version reflects how “football is and maybe where it’s going.”
  • There's unease in trusting an offense that wins shootouts instead of grinding out 17-10 games.

2. Encouraging Bears Loss to the 49ers

• Game Recap & Takeaways

  • The close game at San Francisco was more reassuring than disappointing.

  • [04:33] Co-host:
    “Last night’s game was a ton of fun to watch. It was probably the least angry and least disappointed I’ve ever been after a Bears loss.”

  • Despite San Francisco dominating in time of possession and red zone efficiency, the Bears stayed in the game, a major sign of progress.

• Changing Expectations

  • Dan marvels at how losing a firefight can feel like a victory, given how rarely Chicago has trusted its offense to keep up.

  • Dan Bernstein [06:08]:
    “The rules are different now. Our rubric is different in how we judge the Bears. This is not the Bears we grew up with.”

  • The co-host projects that the Bears' offense is at “about 80% of what they can do right now,” imagining even brighter days ahead with Johnson and Caleb Williams.

3. Roster Analysis & Defensive Concerns

• D-Line, Pass Rush, and Payroll

  • Both worry openly about the lack of pass rush and anticipate roster shake-ups, particularly on the defensive line.

  • [08:41] Co-host:
    “Montez Sweat cannot be your highest paid player on defense. He is not providing enough plays... He’s a complement to someone else. He’s not the guy.”

  • Debate about rookie Austin Booker’s upside vs. Montez Sweat, and how Bears can’t build around merely “complementary” talent.

• Turnover Differential & Sustainability

  • Dan cautions that the Bears' positive turnover swings won’t continue—a warning not to get complacent about masked deficiencies.

4. Playoff Outlook and Division Title Significance

• Seeding Fears & Preferences

  • Favorable first-round opponent: “Bring on the Packers!” rather than Seahawks, Rams, or Niners.

  • Dan Bernstein [10:06]:
    “NFC that may be, but... I would rather face the best matchup in the first round. That would be the Bears and it’s clearly the Packers right now.”

• How Much to Celebrate?

  • Spirited discussion on whether to revel in the North division title:

    • Dan references his old rule that "real teams" only celebrate division titles if they win the Super Bowl, but admits he’s softened with age.
    • Both hosts recognize that Ben Johnson has already raised expectations—winning the division doesn't feel like enough, but is a big shift for the fanbase.

  • [18:30] Co-host:
    “The winning the division, I’m not as celebratory about it because of Ben Johnson, and I have higher expectations for it.”

  • Dan Bernstein [19:16]:
    “Now the... transition was so quick, though, in this. In 16 games... That’s the Ben Johnson factor.”

5. On Offensive Star Power & Development

• Coaching Elevates Talent

  • Drawing parallels between Brock Purdy (49ers) “throwing to guys” and what a good scheme can do for merely average receivers. The Bears now benefit from this level of play-calling.

• Trust in Development Pipeline

  • Appreciation for rookies and young players taking on big roles, and the hope that continued development can bolster both sides of the ball.

  • Dan Bernstein [25:41]:
    “If you’re developing people... Just do this more on defense... Find that guy on the line.”

6. Opposing Viewpoints: National Praise for Caleb Williams

• Kyle Shanahan on Caleb Williams [29:08]:
  “He’s one of the best throwers, most athletic quarterbacks I've ever seen... He makes some big time throws. Extremely scary...”

• Jair Brown (49ers) on Caleb Williams’ Out-of-Pocket Throws [29:53]:
  “He’s one of the, if not the best outside the pocket passing quarterback, man... so I feel like he’s the driving force of that offense.”

• The hosts highlight that both Johnson and Williams are aware of and admit their own mistakes—reminding fans not to get too defensive about honest analysis.

7. Playoff Fates & Division Foes

• Review of Packers QB controversy: Matt LaFleur publicly backs Jordan Love despite rumblings about Malik Willis’ strong showings.

  • Matt LaFleur [36:03]:
    “I want to pump the brakes on all that stuff. I think Jordan Love is playing some pretty high level football... But it’s pretty clear that Jordan is our franchise quarterback and... when he is healthy, he’s going to be our starter. So I just want to squash all that.”

• Dan and Matt riff on how the “backup QB is always popular” phenomenon is universal in the NFL.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Bernstein [01:59]:
  “Ben Johnson is going to do things that are too cute and he doesn’t care. In his world, that’s just football...”

• Co-host [04:33]:
  “It was probably the least angry and least disappointed I’ve ever been after a Bears loss.”

• Dan Bernstein [06:08]:
  “The rules are different now. Our rubric is different in how we judge the Bears.”

• Co-host [18:30]:
  “The winning the division, I’m not as celebratory about it because of Ben Johnson, and I have higher expectations for it.”

• Kyle Shanahan [29:08]:
  “Caleb is one of the best throwers, most athletic quarterbacks I've ever seen...”

• Matt LaFleur [36:03]:
  “I want to pump the brakes on all that stuff... It’s pretty clear that Jordan [Love] is our franchise quarterback.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:00–03:30] – Dan’s reflections on Bears’ identity shift and Ben Johnson’s style
• [04:30–07:45] – Bears-49ers recap, encouraging loss, “changing rubric”
• [08:40–13:40] – D-line analysis: Montez Sweat, Austin Booker, sustainability worries
• [13:59–22:17] – Playoff outlook, the meaning of the division title, expectations reset
• [24:10–27:10] – On play design, young receivers, development pipeline
• [29:08–30:11] – Kyle Shanahan & Jair Brown praise Caleb Williams (Notable Audio)
• [35:29–37:23] – Packers QB situation: Matt LaFleur’s sound bites
• [43:00–49:54] – Bulls: handling the Bucks loss, Giannis’ disrespectful dunk, team culture
• [51:16–53:49] – Cubs’ offseason moves and bullpen construction

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Additional Segments

• Bulls Recap – Joy over the win vs. 76ers (noting Jalen Smith's big dunk), debates over defensive effort, and a recap of a chippy moment with Giannis’s windmill slam.
• Cubs Offseason Talk – Skepticism over Hunter Harvey’s signing, need for more strikeout relievers, and the potential pursuit of Alex Bregman.
• Comic Relief – Dan’s ongoing saga with “garage cake,” leftover red velvet, and debates about cake utensils.

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Tone & Language

The tone is candid, energetic, and irreverent, marked by mutual ribbing, playful analogies, and Chicago sports insider banter. Dan and Matt alternate between deeply analytical takes and light-hearted digressions, but always return to a sense of genuine optimism mixed with typical Chicago skepticism.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode captures a moment of rapid transformation for the Bears—one where excitement, skepticism, and recalibrated standards all jostle for primacy. Dan Bernstein and Matt Abbatacola’s frank, funny, and thoughtful conversation suggests that—for the first time in a long while—Chicago football fans can simultaneously celebrate and demand more.

Transcript

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[Dan Bernstein]

Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on 312 Sports Dan Bernstein, Unfiltered on 312 Sports is brought to you in partnership with my bookie. Well, I got about four and a half hours of sleep and that's all you need. I think now that the Bears have traveled back home and they're licking their wounds and they're getting healthy again, all in all, the kind of game that cuts both ways. And I think we have enough ability to take in everything that we learn from the game. Not everything has to be boiled down to good or bad, happy or sad. You can be a little bit of both after that one outcome. And still, first of all, feel, I think my takeaways in general about the direction of the Bears a positive one. And maybe it's not just talking about this year necessarily, but the Bears are playing a brand of football that we really kind of haven't seen before, where they have the coach that does the stuff, they're the team that does some of the stuff and we're not used to it and that's okay. And we're going to learn, like we discussed on forward progress last night, this idea that when you say, well, that was too cute, you're going to just run the ball down the middle of the field. He's going to do that. Ben Johnson is going to do things that are too cute and he doesn't care. And in his world, that's just football. That's sometimes you get an advantage or sometimes you've got a play that you've had in there for months and you've been waiting for the chance to use it. And if it's that time, everything else be damned if it's time to run the play, you get it out, you dust it off, you call it and you put it in there. And that kind of thing should be fun. And I'm willing to meet the Bears halfway on that. I guess I'm saying it now and I'm sure I'm going to be the same guy who's also saying just run. Stop being so damn cute. But this isn't like Gary Croton stuff. And it's not a little Matt Nagy, side by side stuff of just bubble screens for the sake of bubble screens or refusing to block people. The cool thing about Ben Johnson cute is that it also involves blocking. That it isn't just trying to. Ooh, we gotcha. There is some of that, but it's the fundamentals of what he does are still based on hat on a hat making these play. Just an understanding of where football is and maybe where it's going. There is a, there is a discomfort as a Bears fan about existing in that world. It's okay. And I think it's on me. It's on us to get comfortable. Think about it like when, when you raise kids and they're speaking a language you don't quite understand or they're engaged in a, a carving up of their attention span in a way that doesn't seem right to you. You gotta change with the times a little bit. And all I can say is if they're going to keep scoring points like this and if they're going to build that trust that I've got in their ability to play in some of these games and not have to win games 17 to 10, that I have to move to a place where I'm not as comfortable and that's okay. I will be comfortable being uncomfortable. I will do that because this is what it's gonna be. There's gonna be stuff that previously a grumble, grumble, grumble. Too cute. Don't try to fool everybody, just block them. Just run the ball. You can't do that all the time anymore. You can't. And it's not as much fun if he's gonna play Madden with actual human beings. We got to join them. We've got to get used to it. And I pledge I'm try because I know that's where we are. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Last night's game was a ton of fun to watch. It was probably the least angry and least disappointed I've ever been after a Bears loss. I was still very disappointed, but I knew it would be a tough game going to San Francisco and I knew that San Francisco was pretty much red hot in their, in their last two games going into this game. I mean, I think the guy's got 10 touchdowns, right? But their, their red zone, their red zone efficiency, Dan in scoring touchdowns is up to 76 or 77% in the last three games, including this Bears game. So they're just. Their offense is clicking right now. Brock Purdy's had more time in running Kyle Shanahan's offense. Kyle Shanahan clearly has been there, done that, knows what to do, and he's just calling great games right now. And for the Bears to stay in this game and not only stay in it, but have a chance to win, and I'm not going to let go of that Gardner Johnson call, which created another turnover, was an interception. That's a difference maker in this game.

[Dan Bernstein]

I kept saying throughout the game, I can't believe they're tight. It feels like losing. I can't believe. Oh, yes. I can't believe you're trying.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

They ran 47 plays in the first.

[Dan Bernstein]

Half and I kept saying, you know, it feels like they're getting curb stomped and they're tied.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

So that, that is foreign to us. That's what's weird is watching them get stomped up and down the field and then you realize, oh, wait, because scoring for them just isn't that big a deal.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

If I showed you first half stats without the score, you would have said 28 to 3.

[Dan Bernstein]

Something like that. Yeah, yeah, it's. But the rules are different now. Our rubric is different in how we judge the Bears. It just. And that. That's what I'm. I'm pledging to meet halfway. I'm pledging to understand that this is. This is not the Bears we grew up with.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It's not. And watching that game last night, too, and having time to think about it, I had a hard time falling asleep last night and then this morning thinking about it. That game should excite you last night, what you saw. Because if you look, if you watch the 49ers at all, if you love the NFL and you saw what Brock Purdy was when he came into the league and where he's at now in running Kyle Shanahan's offense, his offense, that's what the Bears are at about 80% of what they can do right now.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not even.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Oh, I think so. And they're averaging 26 points a game. Yeah. They're not going to average 50 points a game.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. But as far as the total volume of plays.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I know. And I'm not talking about the volume of plays. I'm talking about their. Their. Their success on the field. Yes. I think, I think again, I think they're going to. Again, 26 points. They're not averaging, you know, 40 points a game. That's not going to happen. They're going to be. Why not in the low 30s. And so right now they're, they're a touchdown or a touchdown on an. A field goal away of what, what they can be as an offense. And if you see what Brock purdy and the 49ers have developed into, imagine what the Bears are going to develop into with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. Not the last guy in the draft. And he's playing great. He's playing really, really well right now.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, he should be a lot better than Brock Purdy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, he's going to be a lot better. Yeah, he's going to be a lot better than Brock Purdy and what this offense. So that should excite you about what we saw last night about where this is going. And it's not going to be three years down the road. I can't wait to see the end of next season where this offense is at.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I am looking forward to seeing where the team can be with when they have a plan for how they can generate a pass rush and what that's going to be. I enjoy Andrew Billings while you can because I don't think he's here next year. I really don't.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I don't. I don't disagree with that as much as I love watching him play. And he's been kind of like our mascot and a little bit of a hero for the show. He's, he's, he's just not part of it for the future. I just don't think. You know, I think. And we'll get into it more down the road because this is more of an off season type discussion, but you could see a whole revamped defensive line.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I mean, Montez Sweat cannot be your highest paid player on defense. He cannot. He absolutely cannot. He is not providing enough plays on the field to be your highest paid defensive player, period.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I also think that they understand that they're not going to have this turnover differential next year. It's incredibly unlikely. Yeah, just, just mathematically, statistically unlikely that this, all these things are going to bounce their way the way that they did this year, which is fine. It's not mad at them for having this opportunity this year or for that covering up so many problems with the defense. You're allowed to have that happen. But it's not a recipe for, for sustained success. It's not a recipe for winning championships. I do think in a year in which things are wide open, you can't write them off. And as we're starting to look at these playoff prospects and where it's all going to shake out for them. I would like to stay away from the Seahawks, the Rams and the Niners for that first playoff game. Bring on the Packers.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right, but, and I don't fully disagree with that, but I also think the Bears can play with anybody. So I don't care who it is. They, they can beat anybody.

[Dan Bernstein]

I agree. NFC that may be, but I'm not standing on that as some sort of principle. I'm not stupid. I would rather face the best matchup in the first round. That would be the Bears and it's clearly the packers right now.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You know, and then on Montez Sweat real quick, too. I just want to say, because I've said this a bunch of times about him, that you can't begrudge the guy whatever contract someone wants to give. And I'm not doing that. God bless him. I'm happy for him that he's getting paid tons and tons of money. But the Bears and the Bears front office has to know this and Ben Johnson knows this, that he can't be your highest paid guy on defense. Again, I'm not taking anything away from sweat and the contract he got.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, it doesn't mean you go pay somebody just to pay somebody else.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I know, but he can't be your highest paid defensive player. He just can't be. He's a compliment to someone else. He's not the guy.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think the Bears thought that if they treated him like a number one pass rusher, like the guy, he would.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Develop, but he's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

And we have. There's any number of cases that where this has happened in years past to the Bears where that once somebody gets the contract, you then think, well, we've got a number one blank. This was the Devin Hester problem where you didn't really have a position for him and you kept calling him a number one receiver and you pay him like a number one receiver because you couldn't just say. And it was kind of dumb because you ended up, from an agency perspective and from a negotiation perspective, putting yourself in a box when you declare him a number one wide receiver and then his side gets to say, well, pay. It's like a number one receiver then and not like a kick returner. I don't know that they negotiated against themselves at that point. It was something similar when Dave Wonstadt used to say, well, we got a $5 million defensive tackle. Yeah, well, you paid Jim Flanagan $5 million.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just because you wanted to.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

See, then you, they were bragging about the fact that they've got a $5 million defensive tackle. Well, you didn't have to if you didn't want to pay him that much money.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I just.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know what you're saying by. Can't be the highest paid for that level of production.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Right.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

100%.

[Dan Bernstein]

He certainly can be if he's got 15 sacks.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right. But he's. But he's not. He's not. He's not the guy. And honestly, if you look at it, and I know Austin Booker was out how many games, what, eight, nine games this year. He's. He's a more productive player on the edge than Montez sweat.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's also, I think, maxes out as a. As a complimentary player on a good defense. You don't build around Austin Booker, but.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I think he has. He has potential to be more productive than a Montez sweat. He's more active, he's faster, he's younger.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's not. The only question I have about him in some ways is his physical flexibility, whether he's got the edge bend, that unique pass rushing ability to keep speed and transition from speed to power at low and strange body angles. Because that's what you pay for in these guys.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. And I think the power and that aspect of his game can develop and grow. But we saw last night in the play, he actually impacted the throw of Brock Purdy. We saw.

[Dan Bernstein]

He dipped and went under, beat it back up.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That was a really. I know he did.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he did.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

But that was a nice move, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's pass rushing.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's what we used to say about Robert. Ability to grow and the side running on the sides of your feet and the.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Now, listen, I'm not. I'm not saying give Austin Booker some crazy contract because he's the guy that you build around. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying right now he has more potential to be that type of impactful player then I think. I think we see who Montez. What is. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't want to get too far into the weeds about where we are right now, but, you know, the bottom line is coming out of that game, the fact that we have the luxury of talking about next year's defense at this point, it tells us a couple things. That as much as we sort of have to, like, they're in. They won the division.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know, we're talking about a division champion here. So this is. This is a middle. The excitement over there that happened over the weekend. This is our first Dan Bernstein unfiltered Since the Bears won the division.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I don't want to lose sight of that because it's important to say, congratulations, good job, everybody. Hooray. You know, that's. That's that matters. They. The Bears won the North.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You know, it's funny because we haven't discussed this at all. And just saying. Yeah, you're right. It's our. It's our first opportunity to discuss that because it happened when the packers lost to the Ravens and the cheese graters came out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Unbelievable.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

But it. Like, as a Bears fan, don't you just kind of feel like. Like, I don't. I. I wasn't as excited about it because it almost felt like that's what I expected Ben Johnson to do. You know what I mean? Like 2018, Matt Nagy. I was.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's not fair. I know, but that's not.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That doesn't matter.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's almost cursing him.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not comparing.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's just. I mean, with his own high expectations.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You expect this from Ben Johnson.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Now, okay, so while we're doing this, before we get into some of the specifics.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I need to find out, and I need to talk through it to find out exactly where I stand on something I've long held, and that is your wiener. Well, I gotta do that just to feel, you know, good about myself when you win a division. And I'm sure they've already printed Chicago Bears NFC North Champions gear, right? So sweatshirts, T shirts.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I haven't seen anything yet.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hats online. I haven't either. That's really strange because my old rule was always the coolest thing you can wear is. Is a. A sweatshirt or had any swag that celebrates a championship less than the super bowl in the year you actually win the Super Bowl. So if you had a Bears 85 NFC Central Champions gear, that's cool. But if you don't win the title and it really looks like you're celebrating a divisional championship, not cool. Because then you're like the Nashville Predators, where you're, like, finding reasons to hang banners for things less than winning the Stanley Cup.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Most wins on a Tuesday, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

There's a. Look at this. We're hanging a banner for that. And it just seems really kind of ridiculous to say, well, we want. We're a champion of something. Hooray. And yet. And yet, as I've gotten older, I believe you should celebrate everything. So, I don't know. I need to recalibrate where I am on how to feel do you say life is fleeting and precious and you can declare whatever victory is important to you? And it might be adorable to make fun of the Nashville Predators. Oh, you. You made a banner. It's your very own banner. And you can hang it.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

Go ahead. Celebrate things. Or is that still not okay? And can you. Yeah. Okay. Win the division. When real teams don't talk about winning divisions, they talk about winning Super Bowls. And when winning the division is something you happen to do on the way to eventually winning your titles.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. I mean, you just answered your own question there, because that's. That's what it's about. It's about celebrating something you don't do frequently. And contenders don't celebrate the entrance into the dance. They don't get excited about getting the invite to the dance.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I do kind of feel for this one. When you're talking about a larger picture renaissance or a return from the wilderness. As long as there is an understanding that this is the beginning of something and I think we're there with the Bears. I do. I don't think it's presumptuous. I don't think it is looking at the proverbial gift horse in the mouth.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

No, it's not. Because you have Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, the two most important assets.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly. So I think it's okay. We can get used to this. The. The never give it back part of taking the north is more important.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I think it's the fact that Ben Johnson's here and what we've all come to expect and respect about Ben Johnson and his expectations and his work ethic and his work level that. The winning the division, like, I'm not as celebratory about it because of Ben Johnson, and I have higher expectations for it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Because. So then we're putting it on him.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't blame me. Blame. Blame the coach for raising my expectations.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's exactly what he did. Like, this is great. They won a division, but so what? You got to win more. Like, we want to be the team that's the perennial division winners. Going to the. Like, going to the playoffs shouldn't be. Holy shit, the Bears are in the playoffs. That's expected.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know, but it hasn't been. So we have to acknowledge the fact.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I know, but the transition was so.

[Dan Bernstein]

Quick, though, in this.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

In 16 games.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly. That's where.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's the Ben Johnson factor.

[Dan Bernstein]

But that's why I'm. That's why I'm trying to figure this all out. Like, the extent to which I should say all right, good job, Bears. Great. Well, now, what are you doing with this, this ridiculous, awful pass rush? You gave it up 900 yards in the last games, and we're supposed to be celebrating. We made the playoffs. So there's. There's that, but there's the. Like, this is kind of awesome.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, last night didn't really feel like that bad a loss because. Okay, so these are. These. All these things are true is my point.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. I think you. You take it and. And you feel awesome and you say, this is awesome, and you. You have that feeling, that experience, and you celebrate it, but it's not enough. Like, I think years ago we would have settled and been, holy shit, we won the division. We beat the Packers. We would have felt like we won a Super Bowl.

[Dan Bernstein]

Kind of did.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Like, this is, like, this is great. This is awesome. But now the, like, he set the expectations through the course of one season that winning the division isn't enough anymore.

[Dan Bernstein]

And that's.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And he did that in one fucking year.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know. That's years not even over yet. Right. So it's ridiculous. So at some point, it becomes a meta problem. At some point, we're celebrating the fact that we're already not celebrating winning the division.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, we are celebrating, but it's just. It's not enough.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know what I mean, though? It's like the acceleration to this point was so overwhelming that we never really got a chance to talk about what it felt like to get here. Because now they.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, because there's a buildup of seasons.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. On to the next thing, onto the next thing.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I mean, this isn't. This isn't 20, 27 where we're going. God, you remember the first year where they were here, and now we're finally here. We've won the division. It happened in 16 games. I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he said it was going.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Actually, it happened in 15 games because we clinched before.

[Dan Bernstein]

They said they'd be playing their best football in December, and he told us that. Yeah, I know. So that's why, coming off of a loss, I don't feel like we're here picking everything over and being like, well, this sucked and this has got. It's like, look where we're at. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

With the chance of being a two.

[Dan Bernstein]

Seed and being able. Like, I never thought that I could say reasonably about the Bears. I trust them to win a shootout. When is the last time you could say, oh, oh, yeah, the other team scored, well, that's over. That's it. We're not going to get a Touchdown in this game.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Bengals game.

[Dan Bernstein]

47 of 42.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

And that was against a really bad team, though.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That.

[Dan Bernstein]

The one last night was against a really good team.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, against a really good offense.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly, man.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I mean, they're, they're. I mean, you look at their defense is bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And their pass rush bad. Well, while they were able to manufacture a pressure when needed, their pass rush is as bad, if not worse than the bears. They have 18 sacks.

[Dan Bernstein]

And what was interesting was they. Their successful pressures were right over the center when they got rushers through. Those assignments were at the heart of where the Bears are strongest Every.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Not every time.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. They were very successful in the. A gap. They were. They. They had. They had a gap pressure off of some of their overload.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's something to watch going through the game again. When I watch the game again, I'll look at that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And then.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I'd like to talk to them or hear the answers about. Like it was a very pointy game. Do you notice that it was a very Mike. Pointy game?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, I think it was. It was probably the sound level because how many times did Tooney have to stand up, talk to communicate with Caleb and then come down and hit Dalman on the, on the, on the left hip, whatever works.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And you trust Tooney to do that.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

So. But there were. It did seem like there were a lot of machinations going on to make sure they had the protections sliding in the proper direction, help coming from the proper places. And a lot of that is because of the variance in formations that they have and just making sure you know who's playing what position on your own team when you come out there and getting everything set. And that's what happened on the last play of the game.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

We learned. Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

And we're going to talk about that.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. A lot more to get into some details of stuff on Ford progress. And one, one last thing as far as a comp is concerned with looking at where the offense for the Niners has developed with the last pick in the draft being the quarterback, who was he throwing to last night? His wide receivers were out. Ricky Pearsall, his starting tight end, one of the best in the game, was out. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a former Bear, by the way, in Tonjas.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He was throwing to guys. That's what he was doing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Have you seen for the last couple of weeks, by the way, Eric Saubert on Seattle and Jake Tonjas, like these are throwaway end of roster Bears tight ends and.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

But so then you're just walking into my next point. What's the point of that whole process there? Brock Purdy throwing to guys last night, his start. I mean his starting wide receivers are out. He's throwing the guys as wide receivers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Coaches scheme people open.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes. Good coaches. Yeah. Good. And that's what we're going to see with the Bears. It's going to get to a point where, yeah, you need your guys there and of course you want your superstars there. You want them there for all 17 games. That's why they're their superstars. That's why they're getting the big contracts. That's why they make the plays. But if you have a good offensive coordinator and a good play caller, you can scheme guys open regardless of who they are.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's where my trust level comes from. That's where my understanding of being in a shootout. Sometimes this happens when somebody gets hurt in the middle of the game.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Which is also why I don't think Zacchaeus will be here next year either.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He just. Just too many drops.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's also a place that you should be able to upgrade relatively easily with something you would think so younger and inexpensive. And that's why I don't mind a guy like Jedae Walker getting a nice long look.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's my ops last night. Made some plays.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't mind getting a longer look.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Shouldn't.

[Dan Bernstein]

If you're developing people if your own play. Look at this rookie class like that's the other thing about seeing young players get better. If you're helping Nishan Wright along and making him into a more than viable NFL player. If you have somebody like Benedet and Tropillo and when Luke Newman played, he looked good. Just do this more on defense. Do this more on, you know, find that guy on the line. We've been waiting for Dominique Robinson to pop forever. Yeah, he didn't look great.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He just looks.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think that's about over 2.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think we'd know. We knew that there were some. Some measurables there and there were some traits there.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And it's just too, too often he gets. He gets stuck on an offensive lineman like he's glued to him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Gets swallowed up.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

And just can't use the skills that he's got because people just, you know, get into him physically too quickly. But the development piece of this, to see young players getting better, they're not. This isn't a division championship team that just relied on a bunch of old free agents, dude.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It's burden and Loveland and Manungai, like, Jesus Christ, man.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pillow, there's your starting left tackle. I know that's forced into action.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Let's turn that focus a little bit on defense next year. Let's get guys that are going to stay on the field.

[Dan Bernstein]

Absolutely. Right now you thought your secondary was going to be good. You're taking some balls away. You got to get rougher and tougher in that front seven.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, you have to.

[Dan Bernstein]

You absolutely do. And I don't know what it's going to cost or where that's going to come from or if you're already. If you're pro scouting people have. Have eyes on some possibilities there. They better. But it's this. It's this mix of satisfaction and excitement with higher expectations at the same time.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It's a good thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

It is a good thing.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It's a very good thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

And sometimes it's hard to take stock after a loss like that because you want them to have a possibility of winning the super bowl this year. They're going to the playoffs.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

The actual this year playoffs. They're going to go compete against, we hope, the Packers. We hope. Because that's the best matchup in the first round right now. I think they're going to the best.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Matchup for the Bears.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think they're going to go try to kick the crap out of the Lions because that's just the way that Ben Johnson rolls. I don't think they're going to take it easy at all unless something happens in the Philly game where it's locked because they're playing at the same time. They're both 325 starts. So if Philly is down mid third quarter, if they're down three touchdowns, I have no problem pulling everybody. You just put the agency in, do whatever you want. I have no problem trying to marshal your resources there and get healthy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, let's talk more about that and forward progress as well, too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I'm sure we will.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Let's get more into that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I want to get into the packers too, because something weird is going on there. Something very, very strange is happening in Green Bay. Do we have the sound?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I do.

[Dan Bernstein]

Matt LaFleur talking real quick, though.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Let me do two things from the 49ers since we're still on that before we move out. Okay. I just want to play some sound real quick. This is Kyle Shanahan on Caleb Williams after the game.

[Kyle Shanahan]

Caleb is one of the best throwers, most athletic quarterbacks I've ever seen in terms of his height. Weight and speed. He makes some big time throws. Extremely scary on the perimeter, can hold onto the ball for a while, not in a bad way, but by creating stuff which makes coverages have to hold up forever. And when you have a talented guy like that who's got the speed and the size, usually they get a run game, get some bootlegs and play actions off of it. You limit how many times you got to drop back and it makes sense why he's playing at such a high level.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

So that's Kyle Shanahan on Caleb Williams and then Jair Brown at his locker last night was asked about Caleb Williams. Here's what he had to say.

[Dan Bernstein]

Team you could see again down the line what made their offense so good tonight and tough to get a stop against Caleb, bro.

[Jair Brown]

Caleb, I feel like he's one of the, if not the best outside the pocket passing quarterback, man. He, when he gets on the move, man, he can throw it as if he's standing still, man, on the move. So I feel like he's the driving force of that offense and he definitely wanted to better quarterbacks in this game, man, when it comes to that.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. Just I wanted to play both those because it's good to hear. It's good to hear as a Bears fan what you know, your opponents, other people outside of the Bears organization are saying about your quarterback. Because I know people, a lot of people were bothered last night during our post game show about Chris Collinsworth that, oh, you know, he's going after Caleb, going after Caleb. But everything he highlighted about Caleb was accurate and correct. But this is still the perspective you get from the guys playing the game. Chris Collinsworth is doing his job of analyzing the game and he's not the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Only one who has made this the observation that as good as Caleb Williams is, he every game will leave you with a couple of head scratchers.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And then, and we've talked about this the entire season.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You know who else have said, has said that about Caleb Williams?

[Dan Bernstein]

There are two people.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Caleb Williams said it. Oh, Caleb Williams has said it and Ben Johnson have said it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

So don't be bothered as a Bears fan because a guy's doing his job as an analyst. Like don't, don't let that detract from your fund.

[Dan Bernstein]

It doesn't for me generally.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Oh, I know. I mean, I mean like people that are listeners and people that join us. By the way, our postgame show last night, if you, if you don't join Ford progress postgame show, you really need to, I mean you're missing out on the fun of it. Not even just us, like take us out of it. The community that developed over 16 games. So I opened the the room, the chat room at 7 o' clock last night and there was a comment in there at like 7:02 and before the game started there were dozens of comments.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was basically a sports bar that you sort of created there.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Just hanging out. People are just hanging out. And I said that on Friday going into the game last Friday on Ford Progress, I said I'm going to open it up early so y' all can hang out if you want. And it happened and it worked. And it's fun. It's fun to see. I don't get involved with it. I just like to read. And so I was checking before the game started so it's there for you if you haven't checked out. Forward progress. Our post game show live after every game this Sunday. It'll take place around 6:30 after the bears Lions game ends.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's better.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

We'll be there for you. I like it better than 10:30.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And I tired and well, while we're talking about this and the virtual idea of hanging out, I've had several people ask me are we going to do a 312 sports actual get together and I'd like to and I've discussed it with some people internally here and we're not exactly sure. A lot of just so you know, full disclosure, we started this whole thing at the end of August and we're just as far as hitting our speed with getting a podcast network up and going in a top three market. We're doing everything we can do as best we can at this point. I absolutely would love as we start planning for next year as people start getting back to work, as as we get our arms around everything that's happening from a business perspective. Absolutely. I want to do that. I definitely want to make sure we've got a plan for whether it's a live pod or just getting together to have a beer together.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. What I would like to do and I think we will do this again, we have to figure out all the logistics for it and when this would take place. But a live podcast in front of an audience, that's the plan that would be. That would be the goal for it.

[Dan Bernstein]

We're certainly not reinventing anything in that regard.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Don't know when.

[Dan Bernstein]

But yes, the answer, of course, all these things that you're suggesting and all these things that I know you want to do, we're on it we just have to make sure that we have the time and the scheduling and the resources and everything to do all the things that we want to do.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

All right, so you will do that and then let's get into the Packer stuff.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Some don't exactly. I don't get it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't know if I was getting crazy here or whatever is going on around you. You can be impressed with the job Malik Willis is doing and not immediately take that to well, now what? And I guess locally that seems to be happening. Can we hear the raw sound of the press conference here that I think you have of.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah. So this is. This is Matt LaFleur. It's actually two answers. There's no questions. I just put them together. It's about. It's about Malik Willis and Jordan Love. And then there's a follow up question about Jordan Love. The follow up question, Dan, is what makes you think that Jordan Love is the guy?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know that I've ever heard it quite like this live. Like, you know what I mean?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Like no questions here, but it's about Malik Willis. And then why is Jordan love the guy? And here's Matt LaFleur's two answers.

[Matt LaFleur]

I want to pump the brakes on all that stuff. I think Jordan Love is playing some pretty high level football and it's great that we feel the same about Malik in his ability to go in there. And you know, I thought he's had two really back to back outstanding performances. So we're in a good spot with that position. Certainly have a lot of confidence in both of those guys. But I mean, it's pretty clear that Jordan is our franchise quarterback and he's. He is going to be the. When he is healthy, he's going to be our starter. So I just want to squash all that.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right? Pump the brakes. Squash. He's going out of his way. This is a head coach going out of his way to tell you how he feels about who the quarterback is. And yet the next question was essentially, well, why do you.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Why is Jordan.

[Matt LaFleur]

Well, I just think that, I mean, his body of work throughout the course of three years, especially I think this season, I think he's really, he's taken his game to another level. So. And that's not to discount anything. I mean, like I said, we got a lot of faith and confidence in Malik and he's done a lot of great things. But that's a good problem when you have two guys that you're really confident in.

[Dan Bernstein]

Suffice it to say, he did not expect that question because he basically was like, don't ask me.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

He said, I want to pump the brakes. I want to squash this. It's enough. We know our franchise quarterback is. End of story.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

So he finishes and it's like, okay, yeah. Why Jordan Love.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly. That's all great and everything, coach, but I don't understand.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

What about why. Why love Guy. Your guy?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, why? Why? What about the other guy? It's not just here, folks. It's not just Chicago where everybody loves the backup for no apparent reason.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And I. Malik Willis played great against Baltimore. He played great against the Bears coming in for an injured quarterback. They also lost both those games. I mean, it's not like they scored 50 each game and he won.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's like you can't win for losing. Like, if you're Matt LaFleur and you leave that press conference, you go to the PR guy, you're like, you told me this. I did everything I was supposed to do.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Hey, listen, I'm going to squash this right now. When Jordan's healthy, he's our guy. He's our franchise franchise quarterback.

[Dan Bernstein]

Say, like, Rex is our starter.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

So let's squash this, Bob.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hey, coach.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Why is Jordan love your guy? What about him? I don't know. The last three years of playing football, he's better. I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

All he wanted to say was, it's my job as coach to make determinations about who's the better player.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Why Jordan Love?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't understand because I'm the coach and I think he's significantly better than the other guy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He played really good and they lost those two games. Why Jordan Love?

[Dan Bernstein]

I hope you're not. I hoped it wasn't your guy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who the dude? What's the guy?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You McConkie?

[Dan Bernstein]

The old dude.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Get off my lawn. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

What was his name?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Abe Simpson. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Whatever that guy was.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Oh, Larry McCarron.

[Dan Bernstein]

Larry McCarron.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That was not Larry McCarron.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That guy was way too young. You and your.

[Dan Bernstein]

Your one man Crusade against Larry McCarron.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I don't have a crusade against Larry McCarron. It's all old people.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I guess I'll.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yo, you're not old enough yet. You're still in your 50s. You're still. You're still a young cop. Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

There we go.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You're still a young man. You're a young man in my book. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, Saturday night, that was the Bucks game. That was, was Friday. The 76ers gamer.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then at the.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's the one. I watched Hank and I watched the six games.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good game.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It was a good game.

[Dan Bernstein]

They played really hard.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Very end there, the final five minutes, they just, they, they were making plays they needed to make.

[Dan Bernstein]

Defensively, they were getting stopped.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes, they were.

[Dan Bernstein]

And it proves they can. If they try. If you don't, that's really frustrating. If you don't switch every screen, if you're aware of personnel, if you are, if you're closing out on shooters and not doing hard closeouts on non shooters. They avoided all that against Philadelphia.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, and. But it was still, though, defensively speaking, was it maxi? I mean, that dude got to the rim whenever he wanted to, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

He does that.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I know, but it's just. It's like somebody.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he does somebody.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He's something. Please.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's really good. That's not just a guy, though.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I know, I know, I know he's not. I know he's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's. I mean, he's going to do that to people.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

But no, that was fun. That was a fun, like, final five minutes of the game where they came back, they got stops, they got stops. They made. They made shots when they needed them. It was fun. That was a fun end of the game. So what happened Saturday? Well, so Saturday was Saturday.

[Dan Bernstein]

They put the Bucks. The Bucks pulled away because Giannis came back and he's the best player on the floor because he's Giannis, and he was doing the things that he does, and eventually the game kind of got away from him. And then at the very end, when they're just sort of playing it out last possession, Giannis has the ball and nobody's guarding him. So he looks up and he says, well, we're up nine. We're up. What was it at the time was, what, 110? 103. So that's seven. Seven. Excuse me. They're up seven, and nobody guards him. And he runs down the floor unguarded, and as the buzzer sounds, he executes a full windmill dunk contest jam. So they end up winning. 112 to 103. Okay, you're not supposed to do that. Okay, so after the fact, Vuch comes out and, like, has a word with him. There's a little pushing and shoving because the Bulls took exception to somebody in their house being unprofessional and taunting in that way. So a couple things here. Should Giannis have done it? Was that sort of in character for him? No. And then after the fact, he tried to wear the black hat a little bit and be like, well, we're playing a win, and this is about bigger things. And if this is what people need to see to get us going, it was clearly contrived. The Bulls didn't like it. But I get back to this. What the hell are you gonna do about it? What are you gonna do? It's Giannis. What are you gonna do to him? This isn't Grayson Allen, but there's a time And a place to be. Like, you can't do that to us in our house. See, he can.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Because he's better than anything you got. He's better than your three best players added together. That's an all time great right there. Who can do whatever he wants on the floor and just beat your ass and made you like it. And you can get all huffy. Don't do that to us. We're gonna. We'll have the final say here. No, you won't. No, you won't. So I get it. He probably shouldn't have done it. And he's also not. He's too nice a guy to play the NBA villain. He's just bad at it because he's just a big sweetie. And you don't really buy it when he's doing that because he's Giannis. Some guys can get away with stuff like that and they want all of what comes in the aftermath. I don't necessarily think he does. And it all dissipated. It really wasn't that big a deal. Now, the stuff with Atlanta.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Because it's not that big of a deal.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's not. But the stuff with Atlanta was fun. Trae Young's a little wanker. He's such a. What he was doing with IO and patting him on the butt and the whole thing. I don't like Trey Young. I don't like him.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, you never have.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I like rooting against him. He's a fun guy to root against. He's probably a nice guy. But just as a player, he's really fun to root against. And IO has had a thing with him for years now. So that's been fun. But the Giannis stuff, you can't get too mad because there's nothing you can do about it.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I think you can go do.

[Dan Bernstein]

That whenever he wants.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

The best case, probably walk out there and just be like, bro, come on, man, what are you doing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, that's what. That's what Vuch tried to do.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And like with a smile on your face and realize it's not. And I get in the heat of the moment, you're probably pissed off and. But the whole you can't do this in our house thing. Yeah. He'll come back next time in your house and drop 50 on you if he wants.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right, right. And he'll get a rebound and he'll race down the floor and dunk it right over you whenever he wants. So just be careful with that. You can. There's a lot of fights. You can pick there's a lot of righteous indignation that you can have if that person is Grayson Allen or if it's Trey Young. It's just really hard. Play this out is what I kept saying.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

As it was happening, I was looking at the TV like, yeah, play this out. Play this out. You're picking a fight with Giannis.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Wrong guy. That 76ers game, real quick. There was late in the game, there was a baseline dunk over Embiid.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was Jalen Smith, man.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Jalen Smith. That was.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was awesome, dude. That was so awesome. Meet me at the rim.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That was. That was the, like that got Hank and I off the couch. That was awesome.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nobody expected it.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

And did you see the bench?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Oh, God, they went crazy.

[Dan Bernstein]

The Bulls bench. I thought Modest was gonna cry. I seriously look at Modest after. They're like, oh, my God, that was awesome dunk, man. They were swooning like Bobby soccers in the 50s. They looked like Beatles fans. The reaction to that was like, that's a good call. They couldn't believe was a great Dunkin. Just so unexpected. Sticks mystery. And those are old school Rex specs he's got on. Those are goggle goggles. That's not Oakley blades or the newfangled thing.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

And Bean was the most surprised in the building.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, be got himself put in a poster machine. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That was. That was an awesome. I'm so glad I saw that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it was really fun. And the other thing after that game too, if you notice, Kobe White was doing the post game interview and Vuch came by and kind of tousled his hair. Uh oh, vooch. Mr. Don't mess with me. Don't celebrate wins. So that was a little leadership moment for Vuch saying this one. Celebrate. Be happy, be silly.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

For him to give the go ahead on that, the imprimatur to say, yes, this is one worth messing with somebody in the post game and having some fun with. When that came for Vuge, obviously. More on the Bulls in depth on tomorrow's edition of organizations win Championships. We're going to get into all of this stuff, but tonight against the Timberwolves should be a really interesting matchup with some. Some stars out there on the floor.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right. So you'll. You'll watch that? I'll watch Rams, Falcons.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're scouting the Rams for us?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because there's nothing at stake in Rams Falcons.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right there. There isn't, but. All right. We'll talk more about it on trying.

[Dan Bernstein]

To figure out exactly what the Cubs are doing here. As they're picking around in the bargain basement and they just signed hunter Harvey for $6 million. Unless they know for sure that this guy's going to be healthy. That's a lot of money because that's baseball money. That's a lot for Hunter Harvey. So they're putting together a bullpen now that looks like more of the same of older, smarter, reliable, versatile guys who just don't throw hard.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

If I've got it right.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Because that's not valuable though. Well, it's not valuable to have guys that throw.

[Dan Bernstein]

It can be. It can be. If you have enough guys that do throw hard. Just if my accounting is correct here they got Phil Maton, Hobie Milner, Jacob Webb, Caleb Thielbar and now Harvey. So they haven't found our woman, Mrs. Batts. We were still waiting for them to sign Mrs. Batts because they don't have enough people who miss Batts. Harvey can get it up there 96, 97, 98 comfortably. He's just never healthy. So I'm still waiting for them to find relievers that throw really hard and make guys swing and miss. There are also reports that the Cubs are still in on Alex Bregman. Good, that might make sense for them. Go sign him. I was looking at some of the projection algorithms that are used and fan graphs has for 26 has Alex Bregman as a 4 win player and a 120 WRC plus 262, 346, 441 steamer, which is another projection metric, has him as a 3.7 win player with identical slash line. Maybe a little bit less helpful defensively. Actually he doesn't try to see where that extra bit of war comes out there, whether it's in base running perhaps or elsewhere. But yeah, that's worth it. You get a 3 1/2 4 win player you can plug right in there. Go ahead. Yeah, because you got to make out for the loss of Kyle Tucker, the eventual loss of Kyle Tucker somehow as we believe that that's going to be the case. So yeah, I'd like to hear more about their pursuit of Alex Bregman. And I don't want to hear them just say, oh well, we ran it till the end. We made a great offer. One team makes a great offer, that's the team that gets somebody. That's it. So we don't want to hear just how close you were. Oh, and speaking of bargain basement, if you go to Dick's Sporting Goods now there's like this sale like a 70% off sale. I noticed. Just personally, this is not a commercial. This is not a. This is not an ad. I'm just saying, those fishing shirts that you wear. Yes, I bought. I went in to see what they had for those. It was like 12 bucks for the UV treated hoodie. Lightweight fishing shirts.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It's the Dick's brand, right? I don't know what it is. Okay. It's gotta be the Dick's brand.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was crazy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

That's the one. I have one from there. It's like a yellow camouflage fishing shirt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I don't think they'd let me get a camouflage one.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I mean, it's a real faint camo. You gotta be up close to really see that it's camo.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I was buying, like, the colors that nobody else wanted. If you see a very strange looking person wandering the lakeshore talking to the.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Guy wearing a camel yellow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Well, I think I got one. Was. Was like the weird blue. And then I got. It wasn't called that. But there's like a pea green.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And a tangerine color.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay. I like orange.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. So if you see somebody that looks like a popsicle out fishing this summer.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Probably you.

[Dan Bernstein]

Probably me?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because I figured I don't care. The fish don't care. So what do I care?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You shouldn't care.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's. It's so you'll notice if I'm wearing it here, then you can care and you. And feel free to make fun of me.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Well, we will anyway.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I don't.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

No, I like those. I think it's probably the Dick's brand you got. If it was like 15 bucks, because that's the one I have.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was something. It's like got bamboo in it or something.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Like the.

[Dan Bernstein]

The actual fabric. They said it was spandex and something made from bamboo that's supposed to be lighter and has like the wicking. Whatever. I don't know. I know it was cheap.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Maybe. It might not be the Dick's brand then. I don't think the mine doesn't have bamboo in it. It's not fancy like that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. I just know it was inexpensive and I got it and it's fine. Good for you. December doesn't have to be the most expensive month of the year. If you're betting with my bookie. We're in the middle of the twelve days of Christmas. That's daily offers dropping back to back across Sports and Casino. We got DBU picks coming up in just a bit Bet and gets profit boosts, surprise drops for social and telegram users, and just free spins. When you sign in December is full of stuff. We got bowl season, college hoops, NBA, NFL. These are all chances to cash and all chances to find market inefficiencies that allow you to work your special system that you have. Most importantly is the deal when you go to my bookie right now and punch in DBU. That's our code. Dan Bernstein, unfiltered DBU. Your first bet's covered up to $500. And then if you go big and you miss on that first bet, you didn't miss, you got a bet back. Bonus token. So you use that token and you run it back again up to $500 with the code DBU. It lets you bet on anything, anywhere, anytime. Only with my bookie. I've told you about the murder cake. Remember Murder cake?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, of course.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Murder cake was the discounted strawberry sweet roll that was, like, thrown in a plastic bag and put in the discount baked goods. And it was really good. It was like a dollar.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

So I rescued it.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You've done it twice.

[Dan Bernstein]

I adopted it. Yeah. The murder cake.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

You frightened your daughter the first time.

[Dan Bernstein]

And the second time, okay. And lately I've been going through. They raised the price by a dollar for the box of four Stan's donuts. @ the end of the day, where the unsold stands, you're buying them. Well, what do you.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Mean? Well, that's why they raised the price, because there's an idiot buying them. So. Well, they're saying, hey, we can, we can. We can charge more now for these.

[Dan Bernstein]

Discounted. It's still worth it, though. So I've been like, sometimes you get three apple fritters and a Long John. You got to go through every single box because a lot of it's the gluten free, which I don't want, but sometimes it's the holiday special.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Donut. Gluten free.

[Dan Bernstein]

Donut. Yeah. They have a lot of gluten for the ones with the single white stripe or the single black stripe are often. I've learned the code now, okay. Because they're gluten free. Not a fan. But the other stuff, like they got a peppermint one with peppermint candy on it. They got a gingerbread one. They got all these special holiday donuts. Remember the whole Halloween thing with the AFY Tapple.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Ones? Oh, that was.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good. Yeah, it's great. So I had been doing that, but lately I haven't because it was Jason's birthday. His 21st birthday on Christmas Day. Christmas Day.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yep. So he turned, you know, Hank was. Was due Christmas.

[Dan Bernstein]

Day. Oh.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Really? Yeah. Then he ended up coming on January.

[Dan Bernstein]

1St. Oh, he's January 1st. That's.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Exciting. It is exciting because the tax thing would have happened the day.

[Dan Bernstein]

Before. Sweet little deduction. Yeah. Too bad. Yeah. Yeah. No bitterness. So he's going to.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Be. He'll be.

[Dan Bernstein]

13. Thirteen? Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Teenager.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Wow. So we got this great cake, and you know how Beth is when it comes. She, of course, she's like, wow, it's 21st birthday. We're having some people over. She goes to Bittersweet Bakery who did our wedding.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Cake. Oh.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. And it's incredible. I don't generally like cake, as you know. I'm not a cake guy. This was so.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Good. I love cake.

[Dan Bernstein]

Though. Yeah, but this, I mean, it was gorgeous looking. You almost didn't want to touch it. You didn't want to cut into it. And we bought way too.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Much. Okay. What kind of cake was it for his birthday? Like, did he get the pick or did she.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pick? I think they both did. It's red.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Velvet. Oh, I love red velvet.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. It's red velvet, but there's cream cheese.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Filling.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. So it's like half a.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Cheesecake.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. It's a combination of a cake and a cheesecake because of the cream cheese on the inside and buttercream frosting all over.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It. What color was the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Buttercream?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

White. So is white. So white.

[Dan Bernstein]

Cake? Yeah. No white.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Frosting. White.

[Dan Bernstein]

Frosting. Red velvet cake. Red velvet cake. And then like the. Like a. Like a white cheesecake.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Filling. I love a red.

[Dan Bernstein]

Velvet. So we had a half a cake left. And it's perfect. It had been perfect garage fridge weather. And it's in a box with a top. Like they give it a good hard box. Like a hat.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Box.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And it's a cake.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Box. Reputable bakery. You're not getting some shitty.

[Dan Bernstein]

Box. Well, yeah, better. But you're paying $120 for a cake or whatever it is, so. So it's been in the garage and we have the chime on the door. So anytime the back door, any. Any door opens, every else is upstairs and you hear the ding, ding, ding. And they've been. People have been asking me, like, what's going on? Why is the door opening at.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Night? Well, you're going in and eating.

[Dan Bernstein]

Cake. I'm eating garage.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Cake. Are you just bringing a fork out.

[Dan Bernstein]

There? Well, I figured this.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Out. Oh.

[Dan Bernstein]

Boy. So I started. They gave us one of the clear plastic cake triangle, like, lifter. Things like cake slicer, lifter. And the cake is so dense that it broke. Broke off in the cake. So I had to dig in there with my fingers. But I've been making these trips out at night with a paper plate, slippers on, and underpants or whatever it is to go into the garage, Bring in a slab of the garage cake. It's still there. I'm like Homer Simpson with the sandwich. Oh, sandwich. How could I stay mad at you? And as of right now, it's still there. My worry is I didn't know it was gonna get this cold. So if it froze, I think we're done.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Right? No, you can freeze cake. I would just bring it in.

[Dan Bernstein]

And put it in the counter, but then I'm done. Cause I can't bring it back out and refreeze.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It. Probably.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not. Like, once it's in, that's it. There's like, a quarter of a cake left, which I think is probably two or three servings for.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Me. So if it's frozen, I'd just bring it in and eat it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Tonight. It's too.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Much. Bring it when you get.

[Dan Bernstein]

Home. Bring it in when I get.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Home. Yeah. Let it defrost. Because we actually. We had one of Natalie's co workers sent a cake, like, for the holidays, and from this really good bakery. And it's lemon cake. And so it came. It was delivered.

[Dan Bernstein]

Frozen.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay. And it was like, put it in the fridge, and then when you're ready to eat it, put it on the counter for at least two.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hours.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Okay. Yeah. You're good to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Go. Because we froze a piece of our wedding cake or that we ate a year later, and it was fine. It wasn't a.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Huge. It's gonna be cold this week. You can just leave it out there. So you want to eat.

[Dan Bernstein]

It? Yeah, I'm just a little. It's a cardboard box. I'm a little worried that a squirrel could get into the garage and maybe attack.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It. Oh, you might hear the door. The chime go off, like, it's not me who's going down there. No, it could.

[Dan Bernstein]

Be. A damn squirrel wouldn't be leaving our.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

House. Oh, I don't know. If you had a squirrel that lived with.

[Dan Bernstein]

You. No, we.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Don'T. That would eat.

[Dan Bernstein]

It. It's a freestanding.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Garage.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. And so I'm saying a squirrel.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Could theoretically open your garage door, but can't open an interior.

[Dan Bernstein]

Door. It might be able to sneak in somewhere. I don't.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Know. Oh, so your Garage isn't really like sealed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Properly. You don't know. They.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Dig. Well, I don't know. I've never looked at your.

[Dan Bernstein]

Garage. Well, I haven't had a problem with it yet, but I.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Am. Why be concerned about it.

[Matt LaFleur]

Now? I don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

Know. I worry about stuff I just, I might be concerned about because it's that good a cake, that maybe that's what tests the impenetrability of the garage from local critters. I don't.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Know. Hey, let's go back to the triangle thingy. The slicer.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thingy.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes. You know what that's called.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

What? It's called a spatula, but it's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not. It's a cake slicer lifter thing. It's not a.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Spatula. It's a triangle spatula. That's all it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is. But it's four.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Cake. Yeah, that's. Nah, that's what it is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Though. No, I'm not. A spatula is.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Different.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. That's gotta have its own name, the cake thingy. All I know is the handle broke off and the thing was stuck in the cake and I didn't know what to.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Do. Yeah, it's called a triangle.

[Dan Bernstein]

Spatula. I don't think.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

So.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. I'm not sure about your police work. Agree to disagree. Okay, then you're wrong. All right. Okay. Well then how about we do our DBU.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Picks? Let's do.

[Dan Bernstein]

That. Presented by my.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Bookie. Sounds like a good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Idea. Yeah. All right, well, here's.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Mine. Let me go first so you can. You can. Because people need to hear.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yours.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Why? In greater.

[Dan Bernstein]

Detail. I hit mine. I got my Caleb Williams over 16 and a half rushing.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yards. I didn't. My plus three missed because they lost by four. But I am seven and three though against the spread. My last.

[Dan Bernstein]

10. That's really.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Good. I lost two. That I had a seven, seven game winning streak and then I just lost that one. So seven and three my last 10. We're just looking at Monday Night Football tonight, Dan. And it's Rams at Atlanta. Rams are laying seven and a.

[Dan Bernstein]

Half and we're going.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

To. We're going to do that. Yeah. We're going to lay seven and a half Rams over Atlanta and we're going to give the seven and a half Rams will cover that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Easy. All right, well, I'm going to take. And don't ask me why I'm doing this. I'm going to take Julius Randall 24 plus points tonight for the Timberwolves. Julius Randall 24 or more points and then for the Bulls. I'm going to take Trey Jones over 11 points. I like the way he's.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Playing. 11 points. You think he's going to take at least 15 three.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pointers? No. Now he doesn't get them via three pointers. He gets him via oh, but he'll take foul hunting and little layups and.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Floaters. He likes his threes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Though. No, I don't like his.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Threes. No one should like his threes. I think he does.

[Dan Bernstein]

Though. Well, you got if you're that wide open, it's because they're leaving you open. That's the.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Isaac. There's a rule.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. So I'm going to take those two. I'm going to take Julius Randall 24 or more and Trey Jones 11 plus. And those are DBU picks presented by my bookie. Lock in your picks now with my bookie Bet on anything, anywhere, anytime. And that is going to do it for Dan Bernstein Unfiltered on 312.

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