Ben Johnson's Double Down | Chicago Bulls 3-0 | World Series Game 3

Summary

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered

Episode: Ben Johnson's Double Down | Chicago Bulls 3-0 | World Series Game 3
Date: October 28, 2025
Host: Dan Bernstein (with co-host Matt Abbatacola)
Podcast: 312 Sports

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Overview:

This episode dives deep into a wild night in sports, with a focus on:

• The wild Game 3 of the World Series (Dodgers vs. Blue Jays)
• The surprising, energetic 3-0 start for the Chicago Bulls despite missing key players
• Chicago Bears coach Ben Johnson publicly challenging his team's leadership amid penalty crises
  All delivered in Dan Bernstein’s signature straight-shooting, dryly witty style — with Matt Abbatacola providing rapid-fire, smart banter and colorful anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points

1. October’s Sports Deluge: Juggling Big Games

• Both hosts recount their late-night multitasking: World Series madness, Bulls basketball, and personal tales (such as salvaging an Uno’s pizza disaster).
  • “If you don’t have multiple screens, you got to be really good at keeping tabs on things. If in fact you’re also making dinner and trying to do other… there’s a lot going on.” — Co-host [03:28]
• Dan only watched the first World Series game, co-host stayed up to 1:15am.

2. World Series Game 3 in Depth (Dodgers win over Blue Jays in 18 innings)

• Crazy Length & Drama: 18 innings, 609 pitches, epic exhaustion.
  • “I checked this morning and saw that it went 18. And I’m like, well, thank God [I went to bed].” — Dan [01:14]
• Freddie Freeman’s walk-off:
  • “Freeman has ended it. It’s a repeat hero with the last word and a game three classic.” — Co-host mimicking TV call [01:59]
• John Smoltz Annoyance Segment:
  • The hosts’ mutual disdain for Smoltz’s commentary, especially his opposition to analytics, becomes a recurring theme.
    • “He makes baseball fans stupid. When you say dumb shit that you make up… ‘Vlad Guerrero doesn’t swing hard.’ Watch him.” — Co-host [27:32]
    • “That’s all a radar gun does — it measures the speed. It’s not going to be fooled.” — Dan [30:45]
  • The discussion is peppered with exasperated and comic hyperbole:
    • “At some point, what do you think they’re trying to do? Gently feather the ball like a tennis drop shot?” — Co-host [26:25]
    • “He’s broadcasting from 1988. All the other stuff about the movement of his pitches… all of it’s measured.” — Co-host [28:55]
  • Notable laughs:
    • “Sit John Smoltz down with any young GM today and see how that conversation goes. That’s all you need to know.” — Dan [34:57]
• Memorable Moments:
  • Shohei Ohtani’s incredible performance: two homers, two doubles, four walks, on base nine times.
    • “Ohtani has two home runs and two doubles, and they walk him four times… nine times!” — Co-host [15:52], Dan [15:57]
  • “We had a guy get tagged on the dick at second base.” — Co-host (regarding Shohei’s stolen base mishap) [11:05]
  • Fangirling over celebrity Dodgers fans who stayed for all 18 innings; random Glenn Powell gossip.

3. Chicago Bulls: Surprising 3-0 Start

• Despite missing Kobe White and Zach Collins, Bulls have started 3-0, playing an energized and fun brand of basketball.
  • “They have beaten three teams that are going to finish with more wins than the Bulls… by playing entertaining basketball.” — Co-host [04:03]
• Detailed praise for the team’s depth and Billy Donovan’s rotation:
  • “Eight guys in double figures... They share the ball, they play really hard. Patrick Williams… something lit a fire under his ass.” — Co-host [44:17]
  • “Nice 3-0 start. Best start in several years they’ve had.” — Dan [47:42]
• Atlanta Hawks are highlighted (“Hawks are really good. Quinn Snyder runs some beautiful half-court stuff”). Co-host gives “Great Barrier Thief” nickname for Dyson Daniels props to Adam Amin’s broadcast.

4. NBA News: Gambling Scandal Ignored Amid Standout Player Performances

• Hosts express ironic surprise that the NBA’s major gambling scandal isn’t the day’s main story, thanks to the on-court brilliance (Giannis, Austin Reaves, Markkanen).
  • “They just had a massive gambling scandal — an all-time gambling scandal — and we’re not talking about it because… have you seen what Giannis is doing?” — Co-host [13:44]

5. Bears Watch: Ben Johnson’s Media Messaging (and Penalty Crisis)

• Bears coach Ben Johnson publicly challenges locker room leaders after penalty disasters.
  • “Poor Ben Johnson is trying so hard to fight his battle through the media… the media isn’t really helping him. Ben, we’ll help you.” — Co-host [04:03]
  • “He’s pointing at them. Police yourselves. I’m not here.” — Co-host [41:39]
• Negative 279 net penalty yards — worst in the league by a mile; solutions discussed remain “not strong enough.”
  • “It’s a crisis situation. The solutions… just don’t seem strong enough for the urgency that this situation is calling for.” — Dan [42:03]
• Notable injury updates:
  • Shemar Turner out for season (ACL)
  • Robinson out with high ankle sprain, Austin Booker to play

6. Peak Sports Nerd: Donut Review and Mariano’s Store Rant

• Dan receives the legendary Stan’s Donuts + Affy Tapple caramel apple donut live, provides multi-sensory, comedic food review.
  • “Oh my God. That is heavy. Holy shit… There’s a lot going on here. It’s real, real busy.” — Dan [50:46–51:32]
  • “There’s sort of a mouth emergency when… there’s so much to deal with.” — Co-host [51:35]
• Nostalgic and local shoutouts to Mariano’s and Affy Tapple (Niles-based).
• Exasperated tangent about grocery stores constantly rearranging:
  • “Stop rearranging the stores, please. Killing me.” — Dan [54:15]
  • “It’s not optimized for me!” — Dan [54:45]

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Memorable/Sample Quotes & Timestamps

• “Freeman has ended it. It’s a repeat hero with the last word and a game three classic.” — Co-host (quoting TV) [01:59]
• “He makes baseball fans stupid. When you say dumb shit that you make up.” — Co-host (on John Smoltz) [27:32]
• “Ohtani has two home runs and two doubles, and they walk him four times… nine times!” — Co-host [15:52], Dan [15:57]
• “Eight guys in double figures... They share the ball, they play really hard. Patrick Williams… something lit a fire under his ass.” — Co-host [44:17]
• “It’s a crisis situation. The solutions… just don’t seem strong enough for the urgency that this situation is calling for.” — Dan [42:03]
• “Oh my God. That is heavy. Holy shit… There’s so much caramel, I feel like it’s falling out of my mouth.” — Dan (on the donut) [50:46, 51:50]
• “Stop rearranging the stores, please. Killing me.” — Dan [54:15]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:28] Multi-sport multitasking and Bulls quick start
• [08:31] John Smoltz avoidance & exasperation
• [11:05] Game 3 World Series chaos: key plays, Shohei antics, wild outs
• [14:15] NBA gambling scandal and standout early basketball season notes
• [15:52 – 16:07] Shohei Ohtani’s historic performance
• [23:27 – 28:55] John Smoltz’s anti-analytical takes (detailed breakdown)
• [41:10 – 42:03] Bears penalty problems and Ben Johnson’s player callout
• [44:14 – 47:45] Bulls win breakdown: balanced attack, what’s working
• [50:17 – 52:49] Stan’s x Affy Tapple Donut live review
• [54:15] Mariano’s grocery rant

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Takeaways:

• Dan and Matt’s blend of old-school sports honesty and new-school sarcasm is on full display, especially in the World Series/John Smoltz roast and Bulls praise.
• The episode’s tone is lively and conspiratorial; whether marveling at Shohei’s feats, lampooning bad baseball broadcasting, or dissecting Bulls strategy, it all feels like classic Chicago sports talk — equal parts analysis, comedy, and community gripe-fest.

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For Listeners:

If you missed the episode, you’ll come away with a play-by-play of an epic World Series night, insight on why this Bulls team is actually fun, and a sense of what the Bears’ coaching staff is wrestling with. Plus, you’ll know where to get a life-changing caramel peanut apple donut — and to avoid grocery store aisle changes at all costs.

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For daily, unvarnished Chicago sports talk with plenty of laughs and “did he just say that?”, Dan Bernstein Unfiltered remains appointment listening (and now, appointment summarizing).

Transcript

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[Dan Bernstein]

Experian. Dan Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on three. One, two Sports.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

If I am a little tired, I apologize. I imagine you may be too. I don't know how late you made it, but I was a. I'm going on a little bit of lack of sleep. Not that I have three podcasts to record today or anything, so I think we'll make it. But that's the good kind of lack of sleep. October World Series makes me kind of feel like a kid being allowed to stay up. I thought I was transgressing. Sing a little bit. I'm like, ooh, I'm not supposed to be up. Everybody else asleep.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just watched one game. I didn't watch both last night.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I made it to about 1:15 and then it's just like, no, I had.

[Dan Bernstein]

To go to bed. And I'm glad when I. That's the first thing I checked this morning and saw that it went 18. And I'm like, well, thank God.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Exactly.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, I probably would have stayed up to about 14 or 15 for. And then just been exhausted. So I'm. I'm glad I killed it. After. After the first game, Beth got up.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just before 6 to go to Soul Cycle because she's a lunatic. And she's like, why'd you come to bed so late? Game still going. Who won? I don't know. I don't know. Let me sleep. My Alarm set for 7:30. Let me sleep. And she's like, oh, the Dodgers won. I said. I said, let me sleep. So I go, freddie Freeman walk off.

[Dan Bernstein]

Freeman sends a fly ball to center field.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Varshow's going back before the punk strikes. Freeman has ended it. It's a repeat hero with the last word and a game three classic. And John Smoltz said, I still don't like baseball. Can I go home now?

[Dan Bernstein]

I hate it here.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I'm going to make everybody's life miserable too, by saying stuff that's wrong, by making things up about baseball that are wrong somehow. That's got to stop.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's really funny. We were watching the game. I watched the whole first game and I did not hear anything John Smoltz said.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What do you mean?

[Dan Bernstein]

I just tuned him out.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Good for you.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just watched the game.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You know what? Then you are a more.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know, I bring the volume down a little bit because I don't really need to hear the play by play. You're a more evolved intellect, maybe in this one case.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That is a remarkable. If that's true. No, it is completely true. Then that is a remarkable example of effective intelligence.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I just.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That you're able to tune your brain to make you happier.

[Dan Bernstein]

I watched the game and we were chatting. Landing liner chatting as we're watching the game and just watching the game and enjoying it. And if something spectacular happened, I would maybe go back and turn the volume up just to hear the call. But yeah, it was. It was great.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We are brought to you in partnership with my bookie. And today we're obviously going to go through the experience of last night because there was a lot. There was a lot going on in sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was a busy night.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

A busy night. And it was some work. You got to know what you're doing. If you don't have multiple screens, you got to be really good at keeping tabs on things. If in fact you're also making dinner and trying to do other. It's. There's a lot going on because there was the Bulls game that once again was tremendously entertaining. They are playing a very entertaining brand of basketball right now. I'm not. I don't think they're. They're really good. But they've beaten three good teams by playing entertaining basketball. And they're missing two of their really important players right now. Zach Collins is their number one backup big. In some ways, he might be their most overall effective big. When you add defense into that. And they don't have him. They don't have their best scorer in Kobe White. And they're three and oh against three likely playoff teams. Home and road wins. There are Bears things to get to. Poor Ben Johnson is trying so hard to fight his battle through the media, and the media isn't really helping him. So, Ben, we'll help you. I promise you. Ben, we're here for you today. We are gonna follow the breadcrumbs that you're dropping. We are going to. If you've got a big thing of water, we'll help you carry it for a little ways because I know what you're getting at and I imagine Ben gets home to his wife and kids, he's like, you know, I'm trying. I'm trying to send a message here. And I'm waiting for people to hear me. So I hear you. We hear you on Unfiltered. So don't worry about that. And see this? Know what that is?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, is that the donut?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That's the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you brought me one, dude. All right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay. Watching on YouTube right now, this is.

[Dan Bernstein]

I can't wait to try it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The Stan's Donuts and Afy Tapple.

[Dan Bernstein]

And you can only eat one of them.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I want. Okay, you're going to confront this at the end of the show.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Today, at the end of this episode, the moment I hand it to you, you're going to say, oh, God.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, boy.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just because of the heft. You. Because your mind says, oh, donut, I.

[Dan Bernstein]

Can eat 10 of those.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's. Do you know the feeling when. Back when we had paper milk cartons. Do they still have. They don't have them anymore.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't believe so.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But when you the opaque. Maybe oat milk, but any opaque milk carton that you presume is full, but it's empty, and you pick it up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

This is the opposite of that. Okay. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I look forward to trying it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

This is the opposite of that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Your dollar donut.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And. Right. Usually it's six bucks. Yeah, I got it for a dollar. You get it for free.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So you win the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I pay for it somehow.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, it depends how much of it you eat. But I'm telling you, it's not the moment you bite in and something feels different. I'm telling you.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

There's just something odd about it. So like I say we had last night, there were three things that we're watching. At seven o', clock, you sit down. And so I had to plan everything out. Oh, and then my pizza blurped in the oven.

[Dan Bernstein]

What'd you make?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I made an Uno's sausage pizza.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And the bottom fell out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It cracked. And all of a sudden I smell smoke and a whole blop of cheese and stuff fell out.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's the worst of the pizza. That's no good.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So I have to scrape it out of the bottom of the oven while the oven's hot. And I salvaged it, though. I repaired it. I did surgery on the pizza. I put it on a cookie sheet.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, you're good to go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But it was. It was a. It was like a. Like a mash unit. Literal meatball surgery. That I did. It was. It was pretty good, if I may say so myself. I was very proud of what I did on the fly. Getting it out of the hot oven, fixing it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I hate when that happens.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That hasn't happened to me before.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But I'm. I'm good. I was just disappointed.

[Dan Bernstein]

I usually get the cheese falls off the side.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, that happens. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

And falls down to the bottom.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And this was a. This was center, huh? Yeah. Straight out, dead.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was. It was an omen. It was a foreshadowing of Freddie Freeman's home run somehow dead center.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Like it. But it was. So I'm. You get set at 7, and you got the bulls, and Adam Amin is back, and he's sitting there. Did you hear Adam Amin called giddy Diddy?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I didn't.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He did.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no. Yeah, at one point.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And he referred to him as Diddy.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a problem.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. No, no. Different. Different guy. But I see it working. And then there's the baseball game, and then there's the idea of Smoltz avoidance, because somehow I can't just mute John Smoltz or throw him into a burlap sack and down a sewer and. And leave him there. God, I don't like music. I don't like baseball. This may be a time. I guarantee you this guy's trying to hit a home run. They're always trying to hit home runs. It's their job. Stop being.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you got it. You got to let it go, man.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

[Dan Bernstein]

He.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I can't get the World Series elsewhere.

[Dan Bernstein]

You've got at least two more games to get through, so it's not like.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It'S a radio show or a podcast. It's not. I can't get that somewhere else.

[Dan Bernstein]

Train your brain. Tune him out.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You're better than I am at it. You're a more fully actualized intellect than I am. I'm not there yet. If I have to mention John Smoltz to my therapist.

[Dan Bernstein]

Have you.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. All right. We haven't got there yet.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know. That look from you was a genuine look of concern.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, it was.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That was a genuine look of concern.

[Dan Bernstein]

I was very concerned.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Like you.

[Dan Bernstein]

You. That was.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That was real face.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I went from smile to have you.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, like. Like, seriously, dude.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because I immediately. In my head, I had. I had the scene. Like, I made up my therapy room, and you and the therapist. I have no idea who they are, and I just. I Had you talking about John Smoltz.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You have to picture and I guarantee you in your head, my therapist was like this classic Freudian with the, with the. The goatee and the. The round wire rimmed glasses. Oh, yeah, I'm lying on the couch like a New Yorker cartoon.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but you didn't have pants on though. I thought that was weird. My vision, it's.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's the. They're New Agey.

[Dan Bernstein]

Dan, why are you taking your pants off? Well, we got stuff to talk about.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

In reality, I would say my therapist looks like. You remember the actor Mark Lynn Baker? No, from Perfect. The other guy from Perfect Strangers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, picture him.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought you meant the guy from Hamilton.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, that's Lin Manuel Miranda.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, and you asked about Mark Lynn Baker.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Two different guys. He was the non balky guy on Perfect Strangers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Curly hair.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Picture him about 63.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know what he.

[Dan Bernstein]

Actually, that's your guy. That.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, that's what my therapist looks like. Anyway, that was, I think, a great baseball game that stopped being a great baseball game. Like there's no comp for that. You can say it's a. It's a classic. It was 5, 5 in the 9th, maybe the 10th, with everything that was happening with the outs on the base paths, some of the incredible throws that were made. That throw by Barger, Cannon shot where Smith is holding onto the ball before, like waiting for the tag. Guys not even in the screen yet. I mean, some of what was going on, we had. We had a guy get tagged on the dick at second base.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. That was Shohei on the steel. Yeah. Came right off.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We had a guy foul a ball off his own cock.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And then.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Did you see that?

[Dan Bernstein]

And then there were jokes, lots of.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Wiener shots, but they were joking like, oh, well, they're gonna have to amputate his leg. Yeah, I know. And then there's a pause, right. And they didn't say anything because he fouled it off his own. Off his junk. And like, no, they gotta amputate something. But it's not his leg, dudes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that. The play that Edmund made too, at second.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Getting the runner going first to third was unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean, that Freeman got his glove on that got high enough to get his glove. Get his glove on it. Edmond slid, slid to recover it and then immediately popped up and immediately threw and knew exactly where to go and threw a dart.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That was a Javi Baez that, that was like a peak Javi Baez play.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I did. That was that was really, really good play.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And Clayton Kershaw is out there. Yeah. I was so hoping he was going to get his dan. They threw 600 ass lit up.

[Dan Bernstein]

609 pitches in that game.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It was.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was 609 in one game.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. And there were so many fans stayed. Even the celebrity fans were still there.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can't. I know it's LA and they were there on time. They were there before the game started. You can't leave early. You got to show up on time. It's the World Series, man. You're going back to back.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, but generally I don't, you know, I don't begrudge anybody for sleep is important and traffic is bad and people have lives. But I did think it was cool they showed Sean Hayes and Jason Bateman that were still there. Like when you're. When you're hanging.

[Dan Bernstein]

Bateman is a huge, crazy Dodgers fan. Like insane Dodgers fan.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And am I crazy or is there something really. I don't know if Glenn Powell is a good guy or a bad guy. I know he left his girlfriend for Sydney Sweeney, which doesn't speak well for him, but he looks like such a douche.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's funny, and maybe I'm just making this story up my head, but I'm pretty sure there's. When he first got really popular, there was a comment from his mom, and I think his mom refers to him as a douche.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Really?

[Dan Bernstein]

I think so. I'll look it up and double check. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Well, that's kind of funny.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, no, it is.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I kind of like that. But it was a great sports experience last night. Bottom line, I had a blast last. I remember what I said last week about sort of the rejuvenation and liking sports again. To go from the high of that. Whatever that Bulls game was, whatever it meant. Let me tell you something. Atlanta's good. Hawks are good. We're going to talk a lot about that. And that game. And the NBA is crazy. Like, they just had a massive gambling scandal. Like an all time gambling scandal. And we're not talking about it because. Have you seen what Giannis like the stuff Giannis is doing. Austin Reaves in the top five scores in the league. Lowry Marketing just hit 50. The Vijay Edgecombe and Tyrese Maxey are going crazy. And I didn't think, oh, yeah, Historic gambling scandal.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't Adam Silver called before Congress or is going to go before Congress? Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, well, he's. They're getting out ahead of it by essentially telling everybody we're not going to keep secrets about any injuries anymore. Everything disclosed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

There's going to be no actionable inside information when there's no. When you just don't make it inside. They just say, look, this guy's hurt. He's out, or this guy's at the doctor. And people, there's going to be nothing to act on when everybody knows everything.

[Dan Bernstein]

So apparently Glenn Paul was on E. Did an interview on E. And his mother, Cindy called him out on his outfits, noting he could look a little douchey. So she referred to him as looking a little douchey by his outfits, which then he replied on Twitter. Anyone have good nursing home recommendations? I feel like it's time. So his own mom referred to him as looking a little douchey. So there you go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm just remembering the scene in Love and Death when Napoleon invades Russia and Boris is saying that he doesn't want to fight, he doesn't want to fight. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he'll go and he'll fight, and I hope they will put him on the front lines. Thanks a lot, Mom. My mother, folks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just as long as you don't see the movie Napoleon, then we're fine.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, I have no interest.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't ever do it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Trust me. No worries there.

[Dan Bernstein]

I've tried three times and I just can't get through it. I've turned off, so I'm done now.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I give up, unfortunately. So these two teams play again tonight.

[Dan Bernstein]

Tonight, after 609 pitches, Ohtani pitches. How about his. How about his game?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We haven't talked about his game. Shoehei Ohtani has two home runs and two doubles, and they walk him four times.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was on base nine times.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Nine times. And everybody is now saying, well, the intentional walk is bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, they got caught stealing. I got hit in the dick.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You earn your way on base because you're so awesome. That's cool. Yeah, like, we. We have to. We have to give you a single. We have to put you on base because you're too awesome.

[Dan Bernstein]

We'd rather put you on base with the chance of scoring a run rather than you hitting the ball and creating immediate damage with another home run. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I don't know really what was happening with John Schneider last night. He did some very strange things, giving away an out for no reason in the top of an inning. When you need runs, plural, it's at the bottom of the inning, so you still need a better opportunity to score more. And he gives away an out with a bunt. And then the next guy pops up that you just don't. And I'm not using outcome bias. I said it beforehand. The other thing is, when you walk Mookie Betts to get to Freddie Freeman and you're trading Bets's batting average for Freeman's on base percentage, that's a problem how?

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, because Bets. Bets have been struggling the first. The first two games and through that game as well.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Why would you trade Bets's batting average for Freeman's on base percentage? I don't. I did not understand that at all. But geez, the number of outs on the bases, everything that was going on, it's just hard to keep track of a wild baseball game. I hope George Springer is okay. I fear that he is very much not okay. That reaction and what looked like a pulled oblique. It looks like his season is done. And that is really unfortunate because he's really good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. No, for sure.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Super player. Super player.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, God. We'll get to him later this week. Don't worry.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh. Any update on your guy, Flacco? Sore shoulder?

[Dan Bernstein]

I know. Nothing yet.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay. And we're gonna deal with all that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hopefully. Hopefully. Like, I think the medical report's gonna come out and this is gonna say flaco and then all it's gon.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Well, mine didn't hit. It was really close though, because I had the commanders plus 11 and a half and they only lost 28 to 7. So they were right there. I mean, we were.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Real close on it.

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[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

All right. What did you.

[Dan Bernstein]

What did you do?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Thankfully.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Thankfully, someone else did this for me.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I'm so happy that Tim Jackson did this. Tim Jackson is a baseball Prospectus writer.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Who on Blue sky posted, John Smoltz is giving us a classic right at the start of the game. Listen to this. He said Vlad Guerrero Jr. Isn't someone who is swinging for launch by loading up. So he paints Vlad as A contact hitter. He said vlad Guerrero is not swinging for launch. But Tim Jackson said, my guy, he swung harder than all but seven hitters in MLB this year. And I looked that up in under 12 seconds. We know who swings hard. You know who swings hard? Everybody. You know who's trying to launch? Everybody. Everybody's. You know how you get paid? By barreling the ball at a. At an angle and a certain velocity. That's how you make money. Expected weighted on base average. That's what teams look at is do you hit the ball hard and do you hit it hard in the air? Because that's how runs are scored. These are very, very basic things. So then that already you should not have the bully pulpit that you have then on the Will Smith fly out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

When Varsho just kind of ran over and caught it, and Will Smith bat flipped. He thought the game was over. He thought he got it. Everybody thought he got it. The cameraman. Everybody thought that that game was over because after he threw the bat away. But it was a fairly routine flyout. And they show it again, and they show Will Smith and Smoltz goes. He knew it. No, he knew the opposite of it. He so didn't know it. That he bat flipped. You're not supposed to bat flip a flyout. And then when he ran down the line, he showed his disappointment in the fact that he didn't know. He was embarrassed because it made him look silly. So, no, when he. When you said he knew it. What are you watching? What are you saying?

[Dan Bernstein]

Maybe he was excited. He flew out. He knew it. He knew he flew out.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Do you think he was celebrating a fly out? No. Do you think he was bat flipping a fly out?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. So I think that the point is that John Smoltz not very good.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I got two more.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. All right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Don't you try to stop me.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm not trying to stop you. That trains rolling. There's no stopping.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Don't you try to stop me.

[Dan Bernstein]

Now you're driving that train.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Then later. I don't. Was the 14th or whatever it was. What inning? Smoltz says, I don't really like the win expectancy, but I would imagine that charts moving up and down right now. So here's the thing. It isn't liking or not liking. That's just a measurement. That's like somebody saying, I don't like temperature.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God. I was thinking the same thing in my head.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What do you mean you don't like it? What's not to like? I don't like distance.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sir, Your temperature is 103.5. You might need to go to the hospital.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't like temperature. Yeah, I'm not one for measuring the distance between two objects, but I am trying to figure out my plans for this afternoon when I'm going from here to there. But don't bother me with distance. These are all. Okay, that. That's.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then what's the last one?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Well, no, I'm not. There's two more.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, wait, these are after the 14th.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, this is the. I mean, I don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, God.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought you had them in order. I'm on.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm on. God, I'm on minimal sleep here. Yeah, so. Seriously, I'm not much for width or depth, temperature. Like, I don't like it. What do you mean you don't like it? The hell are you talking about? So then he says something to the effect of. This might be a situation where he's trying to launch. Of course it is. Stop thinking that people. At some point. What do you think they're trying to do? Gently feather the ball like a tennis drop shot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, he confuses Vlad and.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But even Nico Horner is also trying.

[Dan Bernstein]

He just doesn't. But they all try to. Right. He just doesn't have that launch ability to hit those power numbers. Right. But he tries to, though. That's the point.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He's trying to barrel the ball at an angle. Everyone's trying to. Nobody's trying to just. If I could only just shape this shot like a flop wedge. What do you think is happening?

[Dan Bernstein]

I know it impacts you probably the most, but you're not the only one. I've got more to recognize.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I've got one more.

[Dan Bernstein]

I have a question for you. How much longer. Do you think that I'm gonna get mad? No, that. That he continues doing. It's not good. And a broadcast can be really helpful and beneficial to the viewers, especially on.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's the World Series.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can make people smarter.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You've got the grandest opportunity.

[Dan Bernstein]

Here's the thing.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He's making everybody dumber.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's not even about making people smarter. You don't have to make someone smarter to be good at what you do.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just don't make people dumber.

[Dan Bernstein]

But he makes the broadcast worse. But he.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He makes baseball fans stupid. When you say dumb shit that you make up. Vlad Guerrero doesn't swing hard. Watch him. Like, that's the other thing. Like, just the eye test. Just watch him swing. Watch his dad swing. Watch Vlad Guerrero swing. From the moment he's Held a bat. All his dad told him was, swing as hard as you fucking can. We'll fix everything later. That's all he does. Like, even just your eyes and not even them. So then I don't know which pitcher came in. One of the pitchers comes in and he said, you know, this guy, he may not throw a hundred miles. And he always scoffs at the guys who throw a hundred. Like, that's bad. You're trying to throw a hundred. It's really hard to hit 100. Well, you know, listen, he may not throw a hundred, but I'll tell you something, this youngster's got gumption. And then he says, well, that's something that the radar gun can't pick up. Is it sneaky fast? Okay, maybe the radar gun can't. But you know what can pick up all the other movement on a pitch and everything else a pitch does. The other measurement devices, everything else on Statcast, it may not be the radar gun. This guy's broadcasting from 1988. All the other stuff about the movement of his pitches, the spin rate, the horizontal movement, the vertical movement, all of it's measured. All of it. It's right in front of you. It's on your phone. You've got a phone.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's a guy that doesn't care about information, data, numbers. He's just. He's not interested. But he's not interested in understanding because.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You have the most important seat, the most important seat in all of baseball and all broadcasting to teach baseball. Like, well, this doesn't show up anywhere. So I'm gonna tell you about this voodoo magic. No, it shows up everywhere. And anybody on their phone can go to mlb.com and Baseball Savant and have all of the exact information immediately. And the guy in charge of educating people refuses to do it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, he's just a guy that. But, you know, his. His career was. Was built on taking the ball, going out there every five days and never wanting to give the ball up and throwing hard and effort and working hard and being a good teammate. And it had nothing to do. I mean, it was a different time. And he just. He hasn't evolved into modern baseball.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He shouldn't be in that position that.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can use more information to actually run a better team, to have a better team, to be a better player, to be more effective as a manager and a coach.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But that's how the teams are being run.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I know, but he have been like, that's.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That's what they're doing. Players are paid based on Certain things that are measured.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know I get it, and I know that he doesn't. And it's probably gotta come to an end soon.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

None of these scientific machines can pick up the things that I, John Smoltz.

[Dan Bernstein]

Can intuit because the radar gun can't pick up the speed because it's sneaky fast. Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But the other machines, these incredible steampunk machines somewhere that are being men dressed on leather suits of goggles.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I'm sorry, though.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ropes.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's all a raid. That's all a radar gun does, is it measures the speed. It's not going to be fooled.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Right, Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

And so your radar gun is not going to show up, like the question mark where the numbers should be.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know. We can't measure. It's. Yeah. And the idea of what you're calling sneaky fast, also measured. It's measured because of the spin, and it's measured because of what happens horizontal and vertically. And you can actually map out everything and see exactly how and why it's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, what do you think happens? I'm sure he's not looking at a monitor to see the graphics they show, but, like, when they showed Tyler Glass now and his extension and his reach and how that impacts the pitch and the time on plate. Like, he doesn't see that.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I mean, like, the distance.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like. Like, do you think if he glances over and sees Joe Davis looking at that graphic, do you think he gets mad at him?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But do they.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why are you staring at that shit? You know that commercials? He screams at him.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Do they tell Joe Davis, like, tone it down. Not to question. Don't question Smoltz. Don't ask him about these things. I mean, don't ask him why he thinks Vlad Guerrero is a. Is a slappy contact guy.

[Dan Bernstein]

He asked. No, and just. He can't. He can't do it. He can't create tension in the booth.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, I mean, like, what would happen if he's like, everything, Jon, you can't really believe that he doesn't swing hard. I mean, come on.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Come on, John.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, you can't really think.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Look at the guy. It's Vlad Guerrero.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, that's. That's not good. That's not going to help the broadcast.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think. I think what happens next year is they put John in a. Like, he's still there. He's in a booth that's not broadcasting anything.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

They don't tell him. They just don't Tell him. They're like, hey, this year we think we're going to have you go solo because it's better that way. Like, you don't need Joe getting in your way or anybody else getting in your way. You just do it by yourself. Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And we're going to give you a crown that says king of baseball. And you're going to have a scepter.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a big book.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's the book on his head.

[Dan Bernstein]

Encyclopedia of baseball.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

On his head.

[Dan Bernstein]

On his head.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. And you're gonna get your own booth wherever we go.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And don't leave this room until we come get you.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

When the red light goes on, that means you're talking to everyone and you get to instruct everyone about bas.

[Dan Bernstein]

So I. I know it. It takes you to a different level. And it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm tired.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know. I know, but it's so tired. I know. You're. You're not the only one. I mean, it's. It's on social media platforms. Other people are calling out John Travolta. Like, it. It can't go much longer than this.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It can't. Did you say John Travolta?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. John Smoltz.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay, good. I just. I didn't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would rather have John Travolta.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do the games, at least for your. For your benefit.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But more coffee.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, other people are seeing it too. And it has to be done. Like, it just can't continue because aging.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And frank, who are fine, but you can do better.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, it can be better, but, you know, then you go to the NFL and you think, why pull Tom Brady? And he's not adding anything to a broadcast.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

How many times are they going to run that commercial of the guy wearing all the rings and like, he is. He's got all Tom Brady's wisdom. And yeah, stop advertising the fact that Tom Brady's smart, because that tells me he's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. If he's a seven time super bowl champion and one of the greatest ever, if not the greatest ever to play the position, you don't need to tell me that he knows the game. But if you're doing that, there's got to be some executive that says, we better tell people, no, but some exec has to go, what are we doing here? And I'm sure it's a woman at Fox who is like, smart and saying, hey, what? Like, why are we doing this, fellas? Like, why is this happening? Like, should we really be promoting the knowledge of a guy who's a seven time super bowl champion.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Does that make us look a little neat?

[Dan Bernstein]

Does that make us look stupid? Yeah, I'm sure it's a woman who's smart enough to say that. And the men in charge, like a.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Little kid that asked why the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And the men in charge are just like, it's Tom Brady. We love Tom Brady. Let's promote Tom Brady. So it's got to turn around and maybe. And my hope for you is that this is the last World Series for Johnson. I don't want anything bad to happen to him.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know what his contract looks like. I don't know what they're.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they can do anything with contracts.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

They give him money to make shit up. That's wrong.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, the game has evolved so much.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's just look at the last decade. Let's just do that. Let's do 10 years. And the information that you can gather and learn to make baseball players better, to make managers better, to make organizations better.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's all right here.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's all there for you to have. And the guy who is at the pinnacle of your broadcasting environment denies it all, works actively against it. I mean, sit John Smoltz down with the general. With any general manager, any young general manager of a baseball team today and see how that conversation goes. That's all you need to know. Like put. Put Theo or Jed in a room.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Theo's old with John.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they're not that much older.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Jed's my age.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but they're younger than John Smoltz. They're still, you know, we would have gone to high school with them. So they're not that old. They're older. But have that conversation.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I loved what Carlos career. Carlos career is like. Look, here's what we get paid on expected weighted on base average. That's going to measure how hard we hit the ball and where.

[Dan Bernstein]

But don't tell me how hard you don't tell me how hard you hit the ball. Because Vlad doesn't try to hit the ball hard.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hitting hard is bad, apparently.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like some guys. Dan, that ball, that ground ball doesn't get through. For other guys, that ground ball gets through. Thanks, John. Yeah, because one goes harder and faster than the other.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

John leaves the bat at a velocity that is on your monitor. It says 108 miles an hour.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That's why it got through.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think no one's told John what exit velocity is.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's right there.

[Dan Bernstein]

But no one knows. He just sees the letters.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Enough. That's Plenty of that.

[Dan Bernstein]

You feel better?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No. Okay. You asked. And no, because there's more games of this.

[Dan Bernstein]

At least two. At least two. I'm hoping for more because I'm still pulling for Toronto.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

All right. I need caffeine and I need energy. Maybe I need protein as much as I need.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I know exactly what you need. You need the perk.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The perk at protein bar and kitchen because I have the app. And the app is great because it is easy to use. And we've got discounts for you at protein Bar. Just because you're listening right now. There's no excuse because there's a protein bar everywhere. There's 15 locations here in Chicago. Most of them are. There's Northbrook, there's Oakbrook, there's everywhere else around. You're gonna run into a protein bar. No matter what time of day it is, there's gonna be something there that is delicious and healthy and made to order exactly how you want it. And it's all in the palm of your hand.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I told you this, you could eat, eat every meal there if you wanted to. There's a. There's such a variety of things to do. And I did something different today. I did something that, that my son Jackson would love. I did their very berry.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, it's good.

[Dan Bernstein]

The blended shake.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, it's good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Strawberries, blueberries, bananas, Greek yogurt, agave, vanilla, whey protein and oat milk. It's just. It's something that's right up his alley. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna have to get Jackie to try one of those. He loves the fruit based shakes and smoothies. So we'll give that a try. I loved it. I went away from my normal. The perk or the. The PBJ today. I wanted to try something new.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Chicken Caesar salad as we love the med bowl. I love.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So they're, they're big fans. We're big fans of protein bar and kitchen.

[Dan Bernstein]

But use the apple use. You have to use the app, use.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The, use the anim and the rewards. The rewards just start piling up and you'll never know. You go, oh. You get a little notification like, oh, okay, well I'm gonna do that. And there's they, they, they want to be. They want to make your life more full of protein bar and give you every incentive to do it once you become an app fiend, you know, and.

[Dan Bernstein]

If you're, if you're more of a plant based eater. You like that. That's your, that's your lifestyle. They have a plant based protein you can use. Yes, they do. The Baywatch strawberry, mango, banana, pineapple and vanilla plant based protein. There you go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We're going to do, we're going to do a ton of bears on forward progress as we always do. But I want to just make note of the fact that when we were finished yesterday, we were talking about Shemar Turner being carted off the field. It is ACL and Shemar Turner's out obviously for the year. I want to find out if it's an isolated tear because that's really the limiting factor in return and what somebody can be expected to be in their return, how much cartilage is damaged, how much is removed, et cetera. But it's too bad because I was really getting excited to see what he could do as the season went on. A second round pick.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. And then Robinson's out for a few weeks without a high ankle sprain.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yep. That means Austin Booker is going to be activated and he's going to play.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Ready said he'll be activated.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So yesterday. I hope he is stout enough in the run game. I hope he is. He. The problem with him is as quick as he is and with the bend that he's got and turning that corner with speed, it's a matter of being able to stoutly set an edge. And it's going to be tested. But if you can, it's on Dennis Allen to deploy him in a way that is going to maximize what he does and minimize what he does not. I don't think he's an ideal Dennis Allen edge just because of that. You got to fight your guy. You got to push your guy back. You got to beat Your guy physically is what he asks. And that's, that's going to be an adjustment for Booker.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And if they can find the right opportunities to utilize him, I just, you know, that will, it'll be interesting to see the, the snap count come Sunday and how much opportunities he gets and hopefully you can make the most of them because he does have some ability to get after the quarterback and make some plays in the backfield.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ben Johnson was busy yesterday talking about how he wants his leaders in the locker room to step up. And I'd love for him to name names because we know we listed the captains yesterday. We said about whom is he talking?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Captains are Caleb, Tuney, Byard and. Who was the other one? It was the Santos, which we don't count Bayard. And the other defensive guy was Grady Jarrett. Grady Jarrett.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. And I think he probably means more than that, but he is. He's putting it on them. He's pointing at them. Police yourselves. Police yourselves. I'm not here. He wants. It's like when you tell the kids, figure it out.

[Dan Bernstein]

But we'll get more into it on forward progress because he did meet with the media yesterday virtually and they got a little more into that about the leaders trying to clean up. But I still have a lot of questions, a lot of questions about the things that he said yesterday and how this process gets fixed. And we're already seven games in and you remember the numbers we shared yesterday. Negative 279 net penalty yards for the Bears, which is the worst in the league, the second closest with the Broncos at negative 142. And they have a game in hand, too. So it's not only bad, it's as you point out yesterday, it's a crisis situation. And the solutions that were given in the conversation yesterday with the media just don't seem to correct. Just don't seem strong enough for the urgency that this situation is calling for.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I loved watching the Bulls last night. I've really enjoyed watching them now for three games. They are missing their top scoring threat and they're missing their primary backup, Big Kobe. White and Zach Collins remain out. And yet this oddball cast of characters under Billy Donovan is playing interesting, exciting, big boy NBA ball. They've beaten three teams that are going to finish with more wins than the Bulls this year in the Pistons, the Magic and the Hawks. Those are three likely eastern playoff teams. That is if the Magic can get some shooting. The Hawks are really good. They're really good. Quinn Snyder runs some beautiful half court stuff. Some really clever Interesting half court stuff. And Trae Young, I've never been a huge fan of his game, but I do think since they've tightened up the rules on the James Harden, Trae Young classic flopping stuff, the forcing people to run into, you know, and people are learning how to defend it a little bit better, also his games become a little more palatable to me. I think as a more mature player, I like Trae Young a little bit more. Dyson Daniels is a dervish. He's everywhere. And he's got a great nickname, the Great Barrier Thief.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah, that's good. I heard Adam say that last night.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And you have to know where he is all the time. He never stops, even like little passes near the top of the key, guard to guard, passes. They challenge, he comes out and gets that. Like back in the day, Dyson Daniels, if you, if you're like a college team and you have him, you play him at the top of a one three one and just say attack everything. And nobody will be able to get into their offense. And they can do some of that. Essentially, it's not really a 131 zone, but the way they attack, they can use him to attack everywhere. Has that kind of effect. And some of their half court stuff, the way the Bulls were playing defense, they were running some high, low baseline cut. That is. I should probably save this for OWC later in the day when we get sort of into the X's nose. But a lot of what they were doing, using Porzingis on the baseline and Porzingis at 7 3, when he's shooting logo threes, it's you're like, you don't expect him to raise up like that when. Because you don't expect him to be healthy. You don't really see him sometimes. You're just so used to him being hurt. He's a, he's an outstanding player. But the Bulls were recognizing some matchup differences. They're incredibly balanced. Look at that box score. What? They have eight guys in double figures. They're. They share the ball, they play really hard. Patrick Williams, something, something lit a fire under his ass. Finally, where he is understanding matchups, he is hustling. Just hustle. It's all I ask. You don't have to be a star. Just hustle and he's doing it. Trey Jones is a better second unit point guard than I think I thought. That's what he is. He's a second unit point guard and all. They're playing really hard. Kevin Herder is smart and hustles They've got guys and Josh Giddy's. Giddy needs to fix some things in his game and I wish he were a little more determined to finish some of his drives rather than use the drives for some difficult kickouts. And it was tough yesterday because, man, Atlanta closes out on shooters under control and they make you pop that ball around and reverse it. They are, they are a really disciplined three point defense team and they make it tough for you to rotate it to that corner off of penetration. But they, the Bulls did a pretty good job. They didn't get every good shot. I just want Giddy to not jump into the air in the lane without a plan. And when you do jump, get fouled, go to the line, go foul hunting. You can do that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. You had eight guys in double digit points. You know, all five year starters, three guys off the bench. IO with 21 led all scores. He was one two guys with double doubles too. In, in your guy, Josh Diddy and then Vuch.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, Vuch. They gotta be very careful with Vuch's minutes. He's, he's 35 years old. Just be very, very careful with that.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he's not going to get a lot better. Not going to get a whole hell.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Of a lot better. And then eventually they're going to start looking to trade some of these pieces. But I'm not there mentally right now. I want to enjoy what they're doing. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nice three, zero start. I mean the best start in several years they've had. So.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's like I say, the fact that the NBA is dealing with this incredible scandal involving a head coach playing in illegal poker games and guys shaving points or prop bets and everyone's like, whoa, watch the basketball ball. It's, it's gotta be Adam Silver's dream at this point. If you're waiting for Sunday to start betting, you're missing half the fun and half the money because college football is all cooking. It's upsets, it's blowouts, it's wild covers. It's wide open now with what the transfer portal and nil have done. We got Vanderbilt, that matters. We got Indiana near the top of the rankings. Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

They do.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, sir.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Now, yesterday. And thank you for listening yesterday, I actually got. I want to preface this by saying I got a note. We have a listener, a frequent listener and correspondent who happens to be an employee of Kroger Mariano's who enjoys some of the references that we've made. I don't know that I want to get this person in trouble with. But he said, oh, great. All your talk about that. Stan's afy Tapple caramel peanut apple donut. He said, now I'm gonna. Every time I go to these. And he goes to multiple stores, he's a regional manager. And he said, boy, everybody's gonna talk about how they're all sold out everywhere. Cause you guys have that effect. I brought one for you.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I gave my review. My review was it isn't so much a donut that's covered in caramel as it is a ring of vanilla caramel covered in chopped peanuts.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, no, it looks great with that.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Happens to have an apple donut inside.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Matty.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Give it here.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I present you the donut.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God. I told you.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I said you would say.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God, that is heavy. Holy shit. All right. All right, let's see if we can take this thing down.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I gotta see now. You have to. If you're listening now on Apple or Spotify, wherever, you gotta find this on YouTube.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. This is unexpected.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay, so just you look at it. Okay. It's what happens as the teeth. Your teeth keep sinking into the caramel. You're not gonna be able to talk for a while. So. So now do you see when I said I could only eat one?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. It's really good though, isn't it? Oh, yeah, it's.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's a lot.

[Dan Bernstein]

There's a lot going on here. It's real, real busy.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. It takes a while. It's a multi sensory experience. And there's sort of a mouth emergency when it's like blood rushes to your head because there's so much to deal with. Right. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

There's a lot of caramel. Oh, boy. No, that's a good donut, though. I feel like there's caramel, like, falling out of my mouth.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, that's a really good donut, and I love the chopped peanuts on it. And it is. If you've had the appy tapple, it's. That's. That caramel. I mean, it's. It's really good. Oh, boy.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I think it might even be better than the. I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's different because when you bite into a caramel apple, you've got all the. Like, there's the juice of the apple, the moisture of the apple, and sometimes.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Your teeth will slip and it.

[Dan Bernstein]

And. Yeah, and sometimes you just get the caramel off. But if you get the whole, like, a chunk of apple, it counter balances out the heavy caramel where this. The caramel just invades the donut, and that's all you get. It's all soft on Soft.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's really good, though. And it's good flavor donut. I was concerned about the flavor of the apple donut coming through.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You get just enough, but it's perfect. Just enough of the cinnamon.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's really good. Yeah. I'm gonna finish this for sure. You are? Yeah. Oh, 100%.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. That.

[Dan Bernstein]

Delicious.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You will not eat until dinner. You'll. You will not eat until you get, like, a. Your Mexicali bowl, a protein bar.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, well, thanks for bringing that in. I like it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay, good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I was. I was a bit concerned that the caramel might be too much for the donut. But it. It's a. That's a good, solid donut. It works. And when you said that wasn't as much donut, I was. I just thought, all right, I don't need a mouthful of caramel, which I'm not opposed to.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's just enough.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's good. That's good stuff. All right. Nice. Nice collaboration there. Stands and AFY Tapple. Yeah. Mariano's. Thanks for having it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And Effy Tapples based right here in Niles.

[Dan Bernstein]

Are they really?

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't know that.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Don't you remember when they used to bring things by the old score? Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just didn't know that they were in Niles.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. Because I met the guy I don't even know was the owner. What it was at the time. Like back in the day in like 95 or 96, all of a sudden they would just come over and drop stuff off. Okay. You never knew what the old score because things.

[Dan Bernstein]

Goats and plates of food and rats.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

In the back and rock bands outside waiting to go into xrt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, the Avi Tapple. That was always something my dad always loved. And he would always get the AFI Tapples. That was always a thing as a kid. I remember, like, because he never really got many treats. He was never like, let's go get a treat kind of a thing. But he'd always bring home the AFY Tapples. That's good stuff. And then if our Mariano's guys listening, stop rearranging the stores, please. Killing me.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Killing me, bro. Like, I. I see people wandering my Marianos and I can say, hey, are you looking for something? I can tell them what aisle they're at. All right. You know, about halfway down, middle of the shelves. You know, you're good. It's all moved now. The Vernon Hills one's different and you got to stop.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, that's a good one too.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a real good one. But now it's all moved. It's all different. Stop doing stuff. Just leave stuff where it's at.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Vernon Hills is one of the big ones.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, let's leave where it's at.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, because they have to optimize everything for what it's all.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's not optimized for me.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, it's based on patterns.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, but I have a pattern. And now the pattern was full Ghost Rider. And now you fucked it up.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Negative Ghostwriter.

[Dan Bernstein]

So let's go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The pattern is full.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, we're on it now. Let's leave it. Don't touch it again. I got it down again.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We're good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Stop doing it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That is Dan Bernstein, Undo Unfiltered for this Tuesday. We thank you for joining us. We are brought to you in partnership with my bookie, Dan Bernstein.

[Dan Bernstein]

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