BULLS TRADES - Vucevic sent to Boston | Huerter and Saric go to Detroit

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered

Episode: BULLS TRADES – Vucevic sent to Boston | Huerter and Saric go to Detroit

Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Dan Bernstein
Co-Host/Producer: Jason (International News Correspondent)

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Main Theme

This special episode focuses on the Chicago Bulls' recent flurry of NBA trade deadline moves, most notably the departure of Nikola Vucevic to the Boston Celtics. Dan and Jason break down the shifting shape of the Bulls’ roster, implications for the short- and long-term future, and share unfiltered, often humorous thoughts about Bulls management and the broader NBA landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Setting the Scene

• It’s a spontaneous episode; the Bulls “did stuff,” warranting immediate reaction.
• Quick jokes about Jason’s newsroom backdrop and Bulls history with shorter-tenure players like Dario Saric.
  • “What was your favorite moment of the Dario Saric Bulls era?” – Jason (02:05)

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2. The Vucevic Trade – Details & Immediate Reaction

Vucevic sent to Boston; Bulls receive:

• An expiring contract (Mike Conley, speculated as mostly a salary dump)
• Shooting guard Anthony Simons

Key Points:

• Trading Vucevic was overdue; Dan describes not trading him as having been "malpractice." (02:12)
• Speculation about Simons’ contract situation and his future with the Bulls (“Are they getting matching rights, is he a restricted free agent?”).
• Bulls’ rationale: Simons could be the “two guard” if negotiations for an extension go forward.

Quote:
"Vuch... needed to happen. He's 35, turning 36 next season. It wasn't worth it to keep him around." — Dan Bernstein (05:40)

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3. Medical Red Flags and the Jaden Ivey Situation

• The Bulls also acquired Jaden Ivey; his health is a serious concern after major leg/knee injuries.
• Bulls’ doctors had to sign off before making the deal; the trade only makes sense if Ivey regains his explosiveness.
• Ivey viewed as a potential core piece—if healthy and able to return to his pre-injury form.
• Ivey will be a restricted free agent after this season.

Quote:
"You cannot have made this move without having a total sign off from your doctors... if Jaden Ivey doesn't get his quicks back, this makes no sense." — Co-host (04:10)

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4. What Are the Bulls Building? Eye on the Future

• Core could look like: Josh Giddey, Matas Buzelis, Ivey, Simons (pending extension), and possibly more.
• Bulls still lack interior “size/impact.” Names to watch: Eve Meecy and possibly Zach Collins (if healthy).
• Uncertainty about filling the roster with adequate big men.
• Bulls acquired a valuable 2nd round pick from Boston (likely the Pelicans’ pick, projected 31-35)—which Dan and Jason point out can be preferable to a late 1st rounder due to lower contract commitment and more roster flexibility.

Quote:
"If we are starting to get an idea of what a Bulls core could look like, it’s Giddy, Boozelis, Ivy again if healthy, Simons... I like what they’re doing. I want to see more size.” — Dan Bernstein (06:11, 05:40)

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5. Mike Conley’s Role — or Lack Thereof

• Conley likely part of the trade for salary matching.
• Both are skeptical of Conley’s fit or expectation to stay with the Bulls.
• He could be flipped by the trade deadline.

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6. Around the NBA: Grizzlies’ Fire Sale & Utah’s New Core

• Brief digression to discuss Memphis trading Jaren Jackson Jr. as the Ja Morant era ends and Memphis shifts into rebuild.
• Praise for Utah acquiring defense-heavy frontcourt (Jackson Jr., Ace Bailey, Markkanen, Kessler).
• Lighthearted aside about the NBA becoming obsessed with rim protection after Anthony Edwards’ dunking exploits.

Quote:
"They're paranoid after Anthony Edwards jumped over John Collins and teabagged him and they never want to see that again." — Dan Bernstein (10:48)

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7. Anthony Simons: Finally, a Shot Creator

• Excitement over Simons' “creator” potential; Bulls desperately needed a player who could generate his own offense alongside Kobe White.
• Quick stats review of Simons’ past Portland seasons: 22.6 PPG, strong shooting splits.
• Simons was “a slow developing player” out of IMG Academy, but is now considered the type of twitchy, livewire guard the Bulls have lacked.

Quote:
"They finally have another guy other than Kobe White that can get a bucket by himself. He's a creator." — Dan Bernstein (14:10)

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8. Kobe White and Dosunmu: Future in Doubt?

• Both hosts hint at bleak Bulls prospects for Kobe White and possibly Ayo Dosunmu.
• Kobe’s issues: regressed post-injury, hurried play, turnovers, poor tempo control.
  • “He needs decaf.” — Co-host (16:52)
• Dosunmu could thrive as a key contributor elsewhere; not likely a featured scorer on a contender.
• If White goes, Simons or Ivey may become main backcourt options.

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9. Speculation: Bulls in Play for a Major Big (e.g. Karl Anthony Towns)?

• Brief, speculative discussion: If a Giannis Antetokounmpo trade materializes, Bulls may be a third team, potentially acquiring Karl Anthony Towns.
• Dan muses on Towns' prolific scoring, despite reservations about his rim protection.
• Exchange about the cliché “scoring the basketball,” with Dan and Jason teasing each other about pet peeves.

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10. Reflecting on Vucevic’s Bulls Legacy

• Both hosts express genuine admiration and respect for Vucevic’s professionalism and on-court production over his Bulls tenure.
  • Counting stats, double-doubles, leadership highlighted.
• He “was a good soldier” but “deserves to be on a real contender.”

Quote:
"I'm sorry that he wasn't a part of anything more than he was...He was a good soldier for a long time but he deserves to be on a team that could [contend]." — Co-host (19:19, 20:00)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dario Saric Era Joke:
  • “What was your favorite moment of the Dario Saric Bulls era?” – Jason (02:05)
• Vucevic Malpractice:
  • “I said that not, not trading Vuch would be malpractice.” – Co-host (02:12)
• Medical Due Diligence:
  • “You cannot have made this move without having a total sign off from your doctors...” – Co-host (04:10)
• Roster-building Sarcasm:
  • “We're gonna start doing that now.” (Simons/Symons pronunciation bit) – Dan (06:43)
• Bulls finally getting a creator:
  • “They finally have another guy other than Kobe White that can get a bucket by himself.” – Dan (14:10)
• Kobe White’s speed critique:
  • “He needs decaf.” – Co-host (16:52)
• Score the Basketball:
  • "Don't say that. Please don't say score the basketball." – Co-host (18:13)
  • "Blow it out your ass, Howard." – Dan (18:19)
• Heartfelt Vucevic Goodbye:
  • “I'm sorry that he wasn't a part of anything more than he was. ...he was a good soldier for a long time.” – Co-host (19:19)
• Pop culture tangent:
  • “That reminded me of Whiplash. Get the F out of my sight before I demolish you.” – Dan (19:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:05 – The “Dario Saric Era” joke
• 02:12 – “Malpractice” to not trade Vucevic
• 04:10 – Jaden Ivey’s medical crucial to trade
• 05:40 – Vucevic ‘needed’ to be traded; Bulls’ new core
• 08:43–09:11 – Bulls receive high-2nd-round pick from Boston
• 10:02 – Jaren Jackson Jr. trade; Memphis and Utah’s direction
• 14:10 – Simons as shot creator, Bulls roster implications
• 16:52 – “He needs decaf”: Kobe White criticism
• 18:13–18:42 – “Score the basketball” pet peeve exchange
• 19:19–20:00 – Vucevic appreciation/reflection and trade justification

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Tone & Style

Dan and Jason keep their trademark mix of sharp basketball analysis, dry humor, and Chicago sports exasperation. Their banter ranges from affectionate mockery to genuine NBA nerdery, creating a lively, conversational breakdown for Bulls fans and NBA watchers alike.

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Useful For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

• Offers a thorough, candid review of the Bulls’ deadline moves and roster direction
• Blends stats, big-picture team context, and fan-culture tone
• Includes criticism, optimism, and realistic takes on the Bulls’ future
• The episode is essential listening for anyone wondering where the Bulls are headed post-Vucevic and who/what the front office is targeting as pieces for the next core.

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Next Episode Teaser:
Tomorrow’s show promises a deeper dive into Vucevic’s Bulls legacy and more reactions as the trade deadline dust settles.

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Transcript

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[Jason]

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[Co-host]

Welcome to a special one off event, a podcast event of OWC organizations win championships because the Bulls are doing things. So we thought we'd pop on and have opinions about the Bulls doing things. I'm Dan Bernstein and that is our international news correspondent in our international news Center. Is that a fake backdrop behind you?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, it's real.

[Co-host]

What do you mean? It's an a. Where are you?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a wallpaper in a study room.

[Co-host]

Oh, I thought you did like some sort of like news.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think it kind of looks cool though. It does, actually.

[Co-host]

It makes you look way more important than you actually are.

[Dan Bernstein]

True. I think anything would make me look more important than Tiger woods and Snoop Dogg standing there high, high as hell.

[Co-host]

Just going, well, you look like our international war correspondent or something.

[Dan Bernstein]

But that's why you came. No, the Bulls did stuff because the Bulls did stuff. And I would just like to shout out Dario Sarich for a lovely Bulls career. Just good job.

[Co-host]

Yes. What was your favorite moment of the Dario Saric Bulls era?

[Dan Bernstein]

Hmm.

[Co-host]

It was better than the air sign Ilya Sova era. Without question. It is already an improvement on the air sign Ilya Sova era. But they're doing stuff. I think when we last left you, I said that not, not trading Vuch would be malpractice. I think that's what I said. And while they did trade him for another expiring contract and another guard, the difference is that, correct me if I'm wrong here because a lot of the details at this point are kind of sketchy, at least as far as I'm concerned, because I'm an idiot. But the deal for Anthony Simons allows them to have his restricted free agency that they can match a deal. Is that correct?

[Dan Bernstein]

I believe so. All right.

[Co-host]

I want to make sure that that's that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let me look up his contract. Let me look up Anthony Simons. His contract.

[Co-host]

Well, he's. He's out of contract, but I'm not sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you're saying if they have Bird rights or not?

[Co-host]

Well, I'm just. No, not just Bird rights, but actual matching rights.

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[Co-host]

Because it does seem like there's going to be some more going on here. My expectation is by the time we.

[Dan Bernstein]

Convene for tomorrow's regular unrestricted free agent. Right.

[Co-host]

Okay, then maybe Ivy's restricted because you. You have. There's a. There's a point now where I don't know how they can keep Kobe White. And maybe this decision, if they are going to keep Anthony Simons, they wouldn't make this move unless they were already well down the road of negotiating some kind of extension. Right. So that would be my guess that he's. That he's going to be your two guard.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who, Simons or. Or Ivy?

[Co-host]

Well, Ivy's more of a lead, isn't he?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't. I don't really know because Kate Cunningham was the lead on that team. His minutes were down. His minutes were down this year.

[Co-host]

Well, the reason. And this is what I want to say first about Ivy. We'll get to Simons. Let me say this about the Ivy deal. I mean, Herder, whatever. You knew that he was a possibility, he was going to move. Yeah, but the medicals are paramount. The medicals on Ivey because he has not been the same player or even close to the same player since he came back from a broken leg and then had some knee complications. So there's. You. You cannot have made this move without having a total sign off from your doctors on where they think the further improvement can be if Jaden Ivey doesn't get his quicks back. This makes no sense.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, Jaden Ivey coming out of the draft was an absolute monster. Like, what was he? Fifth overall pick.

[Co-host]

And I. I loved him as a ball handler and in pick and roll, you know, he was a primary ball handler.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's explosive.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And so I like the move, as you said, if he stays healthy and if he gets that bit of pep back in his step and I think it makes sense, what they're doing. Kind of makes sense. I still believe that they're going to go after a big. And I think Eve Meecy is a name to watch for that for sure. And that's. That's another young player that can. I don't want to say he'll win now because. Not these moves.

[Co-host]

Forget that. Forget the win. Don't. Don't even worry about that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like. I like. I like them. I like what they're doing. I want to see more size, but it is nice that Vuch. Thank you. Vuch. But needed to happen. He's 35, turning 36 next season. It's. It wasn't. It wasn't worth it to keep him around. And the guy they got back for it has been absolutely ballin recently. And we'll see. We'll see what happens with him. He is unrestricted. Ivy is. Ivy will be restricted after this season.

[Co-host]

Ivy is. Is 23. He will become a restricted free agent unless there's something else can be agreed to and then you'll let the market set itself for him. But it does seem like age wise, if we are starting to get an idea of what a bull's core could look like. It's giddy. Boozelis. Ivy again, if healthy. Simons. Simon's. I don't know. Oh, no.

[Dan Bernstein]

We're gonna start doing that now.

[Co-host]

I'm doing it all the time. I. I'm not exactly sure where Simons is gonna fit in this. I'm not.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then there's Mike Conley, who I. I think he could be moved by. By the end of the deadline.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he's. He's not a material player. That. That's a salary dump. But they. Right now the question is who and where. Where are the. Are the bigs coming from? Who are the bigs on the roster if you think that. That you already have one. If. If Zach Collins is that guy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Is he?

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[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I'm sorry. I was. I'm. I'm constantly checking my phone right now just in case because you never know. Brian Winhorse said earlier that the Bulls. That. That the Bulls are going to keep going pretty much up until the end of the deadline, which means we could hear it an hour after the deadline. So I'm kind of on high alert right now. That's not a term. It should be. Yeah, Yeah, I guess it's a term. And so do I think Collins is the guy? It depends if he stays healthy. I think when he. When he is, he's a great player. Good player.

[Co-host]

Good. He's a. He's a viable rotational big. But it doesn't really solve your problem of screener. Rim runner, above the rim, rebounder.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's where Somebody like Eve Mece comes in if, if they make that move. And this is without saying that Jalen Smith could. I. I doubt it. But he could theoretically be on the move.

[Co-host]

Oh, I thought you were gonna say he's part of a core.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, Court.

[Co-host]

Okay. I'm just. I'm waiting to see what the vision is. You know, I. Let's look at the picks now because the pick that appears to be coming back from the Celtics looks like the best of the picks that they have. It.

[Dan Bernstein]

It. It is.

[Co-host]

And it's the right. As it stands.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct. It's going to be. The Bulls will get the highest pick out of that second round pick swap. And it's. I think it is the Pelicans pick. So it would probably be anywhere from 31 to 35.

[Co-host]

That's nice. And there are teams that actually prefer that to an end of first round because you don't have the same commitments. Right. You can get a player that's just as good while also having a lot more roster flexibility.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I think I, I think that trade works. So the other two picks hold on, but getting rid of Vuch needed to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Conley move again. Honestly, I, I don't know what they're planning to do with Simons, but he. If he. Because he's an unrestricted free agent, I think there's still a chance that they get rid of them. I don't know why, because it seemed he's the type of player that would be included in a package to get a star type player. But I don't think that's what they're going for. Although you'd never know after. After last year's trade with Luka Doncic. I know the Bulls don't have those assets, but it's. It's. You never know anymore. And I think we should also talk about the Jaren Jackson Jr. Trade. That was a bit. That took me by surprise.

[Co-host]

Well, it looks like they're going full rebuild in Memphis. There's no question that the whole the John Morant era is over. They're going to go full rebuild. And boy, Utah's got a core now, don't they?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. But three first rounders. Three.

[Co-host]

But if they're going to be good, those first. If they're deciding it's time for them to be good, those are not going to be very high value first rounders.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And what if you're looking at what that Keonte, George, Ace Bailey, Markkanen Jackson, look at this front court.

[Jason]

Add Walker Kessler to that they kept.

[Co-host]

I was just gonna say Walker Kessler and you're talking about nobody's gonna score.

[Dan Bernstein]

They're paranoid after Anthony Edwards jumped over John Collins and teabagged him and they never want to see that again. So they're just getting all the, all the best shot blockers. Hello.

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[Dan Bernstein]

So Anthony Simons right now is 26 years old and did you know that for two straight in 2024 he averaged 22.6.

[Co-host]

That was with Portland.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Although that was in 46 games last year with Portland when he played 70 games he averaged 19 on 36% from 3, 43% from the field. And in. What was it in 20, 23 when he played 62 games, he averaged 21 on nearly 38% from 3 and nearly 45% from the field. And look, he, he's.

[Co-host]

He. He was kind of a slow developing player because he came out of what, img Yep, yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

High school. He was a high schooler.

[Co-host]

And I remember there were some late nights against the Bulls. I remember seeing him in games against Portland thinking, that's, you know, that's one of those guys. Like, ooh, that, that's. That's a guy. The, the kind of guy the Bulls don't have is what I remember saying about Anthony Simons. I remember saying, that's exactly this kind of like twitchy livewire wing.

[Dan Bernstein]

We haven't talked about this, and I haven't even thought about it yet. And I'm kind of upset with myself. They finally have another guy other than Kobe White that can get a bucket by himself. He's a creator.

[Co-host]

Shot creator.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's a shot creator. And they needed that so, so, so desperately.

[Co-host]

Let's be fair. Giddy has been that too.

[Dan Bernstein]

I understand that. But he, he creates shots, but he doesn't.

[Co-host]

No, he does.

[Dan Bernstein]

He.

[Co-host]

He does create shots. And he gets fouled. He's gotten a lot better at foul hunting. He's gotten a lot better at understanding that these, these twisting, spinning forays that he makes to the basket don't have to be. To look for pass outs that you can, you're six foot eight, stand up and go to the basket. He's learned that.

[Dan Bernstein]

And if they're going to move on from Kobe White, which I think will happen. We haven't discussed this yet. It looks like the futures for Kobe White and potentially Ida Sumo as well are pretty bleak with the Chicago Bulls right now. And I was been. Iowa's value is high. He has been.

[Co-host]

But I still think he's got a role. It all depends about how much money he's looking. If IO says. If IO says, I got to go start somewhere and I. And I have to be a 20 point scorer. I don't think I.O. is a 20 point scorer on anything other than a bad team. And that's nothing against him. But I think IO's role. IO could be. IO could have a bunch of rings somewhere as a contributor to a really good team. I just think that he is a. He's a. He's a guy you deploy in any number of matchups in situations, sometimes on the ball, sometimes off the ball. That if he were to really commit to. To a vision he could have a role on an excellent team. But I don't think it's a starter playing 35 minutes.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I do. I think Kobe is going to be gone for sure. I don't see how you hold on to him anymore. I'm fully okay.

[Co-host]

I'm down on him right now. This is me, too. And I know that I'm disappointed. I've been. I'm disappointed since he's come back this year. Since he's come back to me, he has looked, his pace has been bad, he's been hurrying, he's been too fast or unaware sometimes of situation when the turnovers have been brutal, just brutal. And a lot of times because he's. He's racing because he's amped up. I think I texted you one night and said he needs decaf. That it just looks like he's.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's like, just.

[Co-host]

Just too. Too much of that. And maybe it's unfair to judge him and it. At a time when I'm. When I'm down on him a little bit. But I agree with you that he's probably going to be elsewhere. That. And if that means they can find a way to retain IO and make him a part of whatever they're going to be. Once we get an idea that. Of what they're going to do in the front court, I have no clue what they're going to do.

[Dan Bernstein]

I was going to say I've seen. I don't know if the reports are just rumors, and I've just kind of thrown the idea out there that the. If Giannis gets traded at the deadline. Right. Which. Which could happen. Which could happen. I'm not saying the Bulls are going to get Yanis. I mean, I would give up Everybody. Don't care.

[Co-host]

30 years old.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Yanis, though, I saw something that said that there's probably going to be a third team involved because of cap reasons, whatever. And I saw Karl Anthony Towns as a name that was linked to Chicago. And he's, I think, a year older than Giannis. No, no, same age. Same age as Giannis. Maybe even younger, actually. And I don't hate it. He's not a great rim protector, but, man, can he score the basketball.

[Co-host]

Don't say that. Please don't say score the basketball.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sorry. He can score.

[Co-host]

He can score. Oh, I hate score the best.

[Dan Bernstein]

Blow it out your ass, Howard.

[Co-host]

No, you, you know, you're an editor. You would. I would hope that if you saw that, you would edit that out.

[Dan Bernstein]

I Think. I think that's just a pet peeve of yours. And not.

[Co-host]

No, it's terrible. Score the basketball. It doesn't make sense. You don't score the basketball. You score points.

[Dan Bernstein]

I hate it at every level.

[Co-host]

Score. The basketball is bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, let's.

[Co-host]

Waste of words.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't use it here.

[Co-host]

Don't use it on the show again or I'm not paying you. Put it that way.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wait, that sounded like something.

[Co-host]

What?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. Don't use that on the show again or I'm not paying you.

[Co-host]

Well, you'll figure that out. But that's. That's what that. That's the deal. This is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Drive me crazy. That reminds me.

[Co-host]

All right, we'll think about it after we're done because tomorrow I definitely want to look at. We'll do. I want to do a whole thing about where.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, it reminded me of Whiplash. Get the F out of my sight before I demolish you.

[Co-host]

Okay. How many times you've seen Whiplash?

[Dan Bernstein]

A good amount. It's one of my favorite movies. It's a great movie.

[Co-host]

I know. Sports movie masquerading as a music movie and. And really about basketball coaching more than anything else. All right, let's cut it here. And we're. Then, Then tomorrow we're gonna. I want to go and actually see where Nicole Avucevich ended up on a lot of Bulls list because he had. He had a heck of a six years just from. From numbers. Sheet filling perspective. Yeah. Counting numbers, double doubles, everything like that. And he's been a really good guy and a great leader. So I'm. I'm sorry that he wasn't a part of anything more than he was. I remember how excited I was when I got the news on the air that they had made the deal for him. And he. He's. He was a good soldier for. For a long time, but he.

[Dan Bernstein]

He deserves to be on a team that. That could.

[Co-host]

Yeah. If this is an indication of the Bulls doing something that makes sense and I'm not. I don't know that it is for sure. I'm going to allow for the possibility that Arturo Kardashevas and the Bulls are doing something bigger picture that makes sense. And maybe when. When we're back tomorrow, we're going to have a better sense of that. But thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to go to your international newsroom and do this for us today. But we'll come back tomorrow with all the latest on the new look Chicago Bul. What they might be doing here on Organizations win Championships, a 312-sports podcast.

[Jason]

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