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Welcome to Dan Bernstein unfiltered on 312 Sports. I am Dan Bernstein, that is Matt Abaticola and we are brought to you in partnership with my bookie. You know, we were talking the last couple days about what we want in this upcoming Bears game and why we want it. And I think wanting to vanquish the Terminator that has been Aaron Rodgers and just getting that sense that at some point it's got to be over. Why not at least put that back bookend in? And I think I came around to your way of thinking on that because I think you're correct and I'm glad you were because it made me think about it more. And as much as you say, yeah, we'd rather see Mason Rudolph, I don't know what the hell. It's one game. Go ahead and own this. Ben Johnson doesn't care. Ben Johnson is unburdened by history. But you know what this is going to take and as I hear, build up to this game and you've got these heritage teams and the family ownership and meeting outside at Soldier failed and all of that. That's involved with a couple of teams winning records and the Bears are embarking on this new series of tests and herculean tasks that they must complete, they must fulfill, they must show their mettle before they're proven playoff ready. A lot of that buys in to a lot of the whole learning to win garbage. And I'm not sure that I, that I have a lot of time for the whole idea of what it means to learn to win other than just doing your job and coming away with a win each week. But it is clear that if they have any aspirations to be better at this, the pass rush has to improve. Rush the passer better, especially Aaron Rodgers, especially somebody that's this much of a surgeon, even at the late stage of his career, he knows what's going on. He can still, if he's comfortable in the pocket physically, he can still zip the ball enough. But he has to be. I think with age comes more of a drop off that you always feel good when you're in charge of your environment. And you might be, what is he, 41? He might be 41 and still like, boy, you can get out there and sling it around a little bit when you're wearing that red jersey in practice and you can get out there and if you're unencumbered, if the pocket's clean, if your feet are clean and you're in rhythm, that's a good way to feel like you're 26 again. But boy, it goes downhill when there is an angry man running right at your fe face mask. And I'm looking at some of these Bears numbers here, and frankly, it's. It's simply not good enough. I think they've done okay stopping the run, and I think Pittsburgh's run game, there's an injury there we're still looking at. And we'll get the injury report a little bit later on today. We'll obviously be talking about that because it matters a lot now who's going and who's not going. Always has. But I think we're better about injury reporting now that there's legalized gambling and this idea of being able to stop the run to put yourself in a position to rush the passer. And the Bears have. Bears are right in the middle of the league as far as blitz percentage, which is not what Dennis Allen prefers. He would rather not necessarily bring guys every single time. And no defensive coordinator, unless you're Brian Flores and your reputation is all about the exotics. No defensive coordinator wants to blitz too much. So maybe it's all right. Maybe the Bears are right in the middle and it gives them some opportunities, especially With Allen using somebody like Kyler Gordon and now C.J. gardner, Johnson as that wild card, that the nickel move piece. But they're the Bears pressure percentage and that counts. Pressure percentage counts. Hurries, knockdowns and all. Sacks, every kind. Even if you force the quarterback to run out of bounds behind everything counts as a sack is part of pressure percentage. The Bears are 27th of 32. They're 23rd in sacks with 21. They are 24th in hurry percentage. And what's even more important for a game like this, and more important for what I'm talking about, about the physical toll that you should exact on an opposing quarterback. They're 29th in quarterback knockdown percentage. How many times do we see Caleb Williams fall down after a play? More often than I can count. I don't know if I have knockdown percentage against. Yeah. And part of it is he gets out of the pocket and he brings it on himself a little bit by keeping these plays alive and sort of moving into some onrushers late in a. In a play. I'm not blaming the victim here, but it always seems like somebody's shoving him down and he's falling and having to dust himself off and get back up. Bears are 29th of 32 in knocking down the opposing quarterback. I want that number to come up and I want it to come up without stupidity because stop making me cringe on every quarterback hit and waiting, waiting, waiting for the referee to throw that flag. And it is the referee because it is the ref themself is behind the play there in making that decision. Ostensibly, if everybody's positioned correctly. And I hate that. I hate the fact that. Did he go low? Did he go high? Was there incidental contact with the head or the face or something that's going to bring that flag out? Did the guy fall on him, quote, unquote, with his full weight, without turning, but hit Aaron Rodgers, hit him early and hit him repeatedly. The game will change. And that goes for any quarterback. It especially goes for old quarterbacks. We saw it with Brady and we'll see it with Rogers. If you get after him and especially in those A gaps, make him think about it. Get up there and show that you're coming and do it a couple times. Get up in there and disrupt the timing and hands in the air for knockdowns as well, for some of those quick passes. But these numbers are a little bit alarming. If you want to talk about the distance the Bears have to go to prove that there's something more than what their record Says they are. Minus what? Minus the eye test. Because that's sort of the math we're working with here. We look at the record and then we subtract what we know based on their. The play that we see and what they've had to do to win games against bad teams. It's okay, you can say it. It's all right. I like to think it's their identity and we don't have to hide from it. We don't have to play fanboy. Don't say anything bad about my team. You suck. Okay, great, whatever. But we know it. We all know it. It's all right. We're here. We all have televisions. 24th and hurry percentage, 29th and knockdown percentage, 23rd in sacks, 27th in pressure percentage. And we're 10 games in. 11 weeks and 10 games in. I think that tells you. I don't, I don't know that these numbers are going to, Are going to change significantly with a rise in class of opponent now. I don't know, but it's not that hard to identify. Not that hard to look and see. All right, well, what can they do? Is it learning how to win? No, it's rushing the passer. I think it's fairly simple. We all, we obsess about Caleb Williams and we will. He's a quarterback of the team. It's okay. I'm not apologizing for obsessing over Caleb Williams and whether or not he can hit this pass or that pass. The offense is fine. They want the most productive offenses in the league and, and we're nitpicking everything that they can do, but the offense. All right. The glaring weakness this team has is threatening the passer. You don't have to get home every time. I'm not saying that, but just get in the backfield and not on a play where you have to send six or you have to skew the numbers and be. I don't, I don't want to blitz Aaron Rodgers. I want Montez Sweat to beat that double team. That's what I want. I want Austin Booker to take advantage of this opportunity. Do you know how many kids, how many guys in his position would hope against hope for a chance like this? You never hope for a teammate to get injured. But this is when people, unlikely guys become stars. When a highly paid free agent was brought in, gets hurt, he's out. Kid, here's your shot. Grab it. Prove it. I thought he made a couple of really good plays in the last game, but if you want to Say, my turn, my time. Here you go. Here you go. Knock Aaron Rodgers down a couple times.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, they're going to have an opportunity to do that, and it sets up well for what the Bears can do defensively.
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The Pittsburgh Steelers are averaging 3.8 yards per carry, so they're one of the. One of the worst teams in the league and rushing the football. The bears are still third worst in the NFL and giving up 5.2 yards per carry. So they can do better in what they have done so far defensively against the rush. Now, it sets up here for Aaron Rodgers to throw the ball, and if he's going to throw the ball a lot, because they don't rush the ball, they don't rush very well. You have opportunities here to get into the backfield, dent the pocket from the, from the A and the B gaps, bring that pressure, that pressure from the outsides to a guy who's not as mobile as he once was. But if he gets out and he throws, he still has a strong arm. He can still throw down field.
Matt Abaticola
He doesn't have to get out. He does what I want Caleb Williams to do more, and that is just find the passing lane. Yeah, but even slide, just find the passing lane.
Dan Bernstein
Aaron Rodgers, in his age, still has the ability to climb the ladder, to use the pocket and find space. He still has that ability.
Matt Abaticola
Mark that comment. Okay. Because I want to double back to that.
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
Matt Abaticola
Okay.
Dan Bernstein
But they have an opportunity here. And if he's going to throw short passes, their defensive scheme sets up to defend that well with their linebackers. And if it's Jaquan Brisker or if it's CJ GJ coming up to make plays, they have the ability to defend those short passes, but they have to get pressure on Aaron Rodgers. They have to use that, that force up the middle. And whether it's Austin Booker or try and show Yinka gets more opportunities, you have Montez sweat, who's got, what, four sacks in the last four games? So he's getting a sack a game. Like, you need to have an impact game. Like, he's making plays, but he's making the. Like he's doing the bare minimum for what he's being paid. Like, we need to have a Montez sweat game. This would be an opportune time for it at home against the Steelers and the Steelers, too, on top of their division.
Matt Abaticola
They.
Dan Bernstein
They lose this game, they're tied with the Ravens, who. Ravens are hosting the jets this week. So, I mean, that. That division has the opportunity to flip here. For the Steelers and the Ravens. If the Ravens can make a run.
Matt Abaticola
And it looks like the jets are turning to to Rod Taylor over Justin Fields.
Dan Bernstein
Sounds like that. Yes.
Matt Abaticola
That's it.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Has he, has he made that official? Aaron Glenn, I know he met the media and was like, oh, I don't want to talk about the quarterbacks. Don't ask about the quarterbacks. I'm not going to get involved in that.
Matt Abaticola
It sure sounds like it's not going to be Fields at this point. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. No, they have to. And they have to be prepared for that and then make the necessary adjustments. And if it's, if it's a matter of having that extra guy coming up and kind of a delayed gap blitz or just kind of not really a spy.
Matt Abaticola
But no, you don't want to. The numbers.
Dan Bernstein
No, you don't you don't know. Not really a traditional spy, but if you're watching tight ends coming off, running backs coming out of the backfield, and you're keeping, you know, one eye there, one eye on Roger stepping up, you know, they have to be prepared to know what. What he's going to do, and that's. That's how he likes to do it. And a lot of times those edge rushers get, they. They do get too deep because they try to go speed around the outside. And he just. I mean, he has the ability for 20, 20 years now of just stepping up and making those secondary reads and making those perfect throws.
Matt Abaticola
I don't want too much strategy necessarily involved in some of this stuff. And I know the Bears don't do a ton of. Of gaming and stunting in there either. I just think that a. An aggressive discipline rush. Your point's good, too, about the Reed blitzes, where it might not be called, but if your responsibility is not getting out in a pattern, go ahead. If you're assigned, if you're. If you're a linebacker or a safety, whatever their rules are on that, and there's no immediate threat to the flat, and you can. You've got an unfettered path. Yeah, go ahead. If you. If you trust the guys behind you to take care of that, at least make him turn around, speed him up a little bit. Heat him up. Speed him up.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Get him out of his rhythm as best as you can. And Mike Tomlin said yesterday, meeting the media, that Aaron Rodgers wanted to go back in the Bengals game after the injury. So, you know, you hear that and it's. That it sounds. It sounds like something Aaron Rodgers would want to do. And knowing that they're working on some devices to get him prepared to play for this week, and he said he wants to play. I hope his ego gets him out there because he wants to beat the Bears at Soldier Field. He wants to. Good. It's certainly.
Matt Abaticola
That's what sports should be.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. No, and I love it. And that's why I want him there, because, again, it's an opportunity for the coaches who have not been part of this to close the book for all of us involved and to be. To be done with Aaron Rodgers once and for all and finally just be rid of that Jordan Love. Looks like he's helping us out by not being very good at times. So hopefully that. That streak every time, you know, has ended with Green Bay.
Matt Abaticola
You know, my. My problem with Jordan Love is every time, I think, you know, he's definitely not going to be good. He'll make, he'll make a terrific. I can't quite take off the table the possibility that he's still going to be really good.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, no, he's, he's not. He's not a bum by any stretch of the imagination. I just don't know if he's going to be the Green Bay quarterback leading them the playoffs for the next, you know, 10 years.
Matt Abaticola
Unlikely, right?
Dan Bernstein
It just seems, it seems that way.
Matt Abaticola
The odds of them having a third straight hall of Famer are just low, I hope. Well, they are. The odds are low. They have a third straight all time.
Dan Bernstein
Great Aaron plays this week, doesn't finish the game, walks off the field. The Bears close the book and that's the end of it. And he no longer owns the Bears and the Bears fans can give it to him on the way out.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, but however, he could say it has been a long and successful run of ownership and if he is offloading the Bears as an asset, as a property, he's certainly ridden the increase in equity.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, no, it's fine, right?
Matt Abaticola
Like he can still say, yes, I owned them and I made a lot of money.
Dan Bernstein
It was a good run.
Matt Abaticola
Made a lot of money in this deal. I'm changing my portfolio around now, but that ownership, that asset served its purpose. It's, you know, I don't think you can say, yeah, Aaron Rodgers now, like, you don't take away all of that, you know, time of dominance.
Dan Bernstein
A win Sunday doesn't erase the past.
Matt Abaticola
No, no, it's kind of, it's more like a cheap thrill is what it is. But it's.
Dan Bernstein
Well, I think taking ownership back would be valuable to this organization.
Matt Abaticola
They could say we own us again.
Dan Bernstein
We are now the current owners.
Matt Abaticola
You know what would have been nice actually, now that I think about it, considering how long Aaron Rodgers has owned the Bears, he could have gone down to the veto session and had a sit down with Pritzker. You know, if George McCaskey couldn't do it and Kevin Warren couldn't do it and they had to have a bunch of randomly recently hired people and hired lobbyists to do their work. You know, Aaron, Aaron, you could have taken a little bit of time to say, hey, I'm here representing the ownership of the Chicago Bears, trying to, you know, just give us a wet our beak a little bit with some tax money to build our.
Dan Bernstein
That's why they need to take the ownership back.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, maybe that's the.
Dan Bernstein
He wants to keep the Bears in Soldier Field. That's the lakefront where they don't own their own stadium.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, that's it. His ownership is interfering with this project. Ah, see, I think we've solved that.
Dan Bernstein
Let Kevin Warren know.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, somebody tell Kevin Warren. Well, he's not painting the white panel on his game ball, putting it over his mantelpiece next to his Bible.
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He reminded me of Mr. Rogers, but.
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Dan Bernstein
Yep, we talked about that.
Matt Abaticola
How about that? Shoda has returned. He has accepted the one year qualifying offer. The 32 year old left handed veteran starting pitcher will be back for $22 million. I'm shocked that he took it. I'm shocked that his agents didn't find more guaranteed money in the open market. More hint of what could be because now he has bet on himself. But what does he do for the lockout? And if you're an agent, like how do you tell your client? How do you advise your client? Just take this one year. Well, what do I do the next year when there's going to be a work stoppage? It sets up great for the Cubs. It does the Cubs an enormous favor. The Cubs now get a decent but maybe slightly declining pitcher at the back end of your rotation. If he's a four, it's great.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, if he's your, if he's your four or even your five depending on what else they do. It's a, it's a great move. It's what we discussed too, that if that's how it plays, plays out where he lands in the rotation and they can get him back for this one year deal. It's a great opportunity.
Matt Abaticola
You got Justin Steele coming back. You've got Kate Horton who is getting ready potentially to be a star. And it certainly changes now where you're going to have to spend your money that maybe you're not going to go find one of these Dylan Cease or Zach gallons or whatever.
Dan Bernstein
They have to. They have. They have to. You know, Jed Hoyer said that they were going to spend a majority of their money in the off season in pitching, that they weren't going to look at offense, they're going to look at pitching. And this, this was, this could not have been what he was talking about. They have to go out and get someone else. They lost their one for the season. They lost their two for a few months of the season. They got an unexpected burst from Kate Horton which you can't. They couldn't count on that in last year.
Matt Abaticola
I think he's going to be their number one no matter who they sign.
Dan Bernstein
I believe that too. But they got lucky with how well he pitched this. This could not be what was part of their plans for off season spending and pitching. They have to go out and add two more arms to that rotation. They have to.
Matt Abaticola
Two more. So Tyone Imanaga, you have to plan for it.
Dan Bernstein
Steel, you have to plan for it.
Matt Abaticola
Horton. And we know Colin Ray is back. Yeah. I'm confident that we're going to have enough, enough money to fill the good team if you have the embarrassment of riches. And I guess the lesson to be learned is the Dodgers.
Dan Bernstein
Yes.
Matt Abaticola
Who spend all the money on every pitcher and no matter what, at some point in the season are out of pitching.
Dan Bernstein
Right. Then you figure it out along the way. You can't go in there, go, these are our five. Okay. Great. What happens when one or two get hurt? What happens when your number two goes down, misses two months and your one's out for the season again?
Matt Abaticola
Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
What happens? What do you do? You can't try to piece it together and bring in a bunch of bums at the trade deadline. Get it together now.
Matt Abaticola
I'll be really interested to see where they go on some of these decisions. Do they go with somebody who's a little, maybe less expensive, where they think in their pitch lab they've got a solution or a way to find value because that's what they've done in the past. Rather than pay a premium for somebody that needs a little bit less work. I mean, every pitcher needs work because every pitcher is always changing and sometimes you get a different feel for a pitch and people catch up to you. But we will, we will know what I don't want to hear. What I don't want to hear is after some of the big ticket people sign elsewhere. I don't want to hear. Well, we made him an offer. We were involved. We had. We. That I hate, hate, hate that I hate the. Well, we talked to him and we were, we were in on blank. Don't give me that. You either sign somebody or you don't. And if it is Dylan's, and I'm just using that as an arbitrary name, right? If it's Dylan Cease and he's going to command a premium and you want to slot him in right at the top there, you're going to pay it.
Dan Bernstein
You know, looking at MLB stuff, all the different experts and reporters and guys that you trust and their information. Before Shota signed the one year deal with the Cubs took that offer, the numbers they were looking at for Shota were anywhere from four years and like 80 to $100 million.
Matt Abaticola
I'm wondering if, boy, the market, it may just be. And maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees here that maybe this is a canary in a coal mine kind of thing where the conclusion we can draw is the soft collusion has already begun in earnest. It might just be that his people, he's knocking on every door looking for a better deal and because of a looming lockout, the purses are tight.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, I would have been shocked if someone offered him a four year, $100.
Matt Abaticola
I'm just saying two years. If you got one at 22. Yeah, that there wasn't two at 38, two at 40.
Dan Bernstein
And we also don't know from his perspective what is, what is he 32? Maybe he loves playing here and maybe just really likes playing and maybe he wants to get one more year and figure it out from there. You know what I mean? I mean he maybe go back to Japan midterm plan.
Matt Abaticola
Maybe he wants to play one more year and then go back home. Right, I understand that too. And it may not be going for every single last dollar. But I'm also wary of the fact that this league engages constantly in soft collusion and is about to start a full court press to bust the union further and lower their costs. And get. They'll refer to it as cost certainty and, and leveling the field of play and all the bullshit that gets used when it comes to, oh, we have to have a salary cap and labor saying, no, you really don't. You have to just try to win and not buying some of that. So that's why we're going to be without baseball for a little while after this year. And they've already, I mean, jeez, the stuff that, in which Manfred was engaged and the stuff that we were hearing after the fact about the Bryce Harper interaction that occurred, that whole dust up and the threats that were made about the insubordination to rob Manfred and all the things they're already getting the whole heavy handed playbook put together and they're gonna run it, they're gonna run every last bit of it. And this starts softly and quietly with soft collusion, with de facto collusion. And just my antenna are very aware of that possibility or probability. But I hope, I hope this is what Shota wants. I hope he's making this decision because it's what he wants and that this works out best for him professionally.
Dan Bernstein
Why, why wouldn't you think that?
Matt Abaticola
I don't know. Because it may just be that he didn't have a choice. What I'm saying is it may just be that they're that like I was saying that that extra guarantee wasn't there because of the lockout and he just couldn't like this. This was the most he had. And then he's like, well, you know what, let's punt it a year and then we'll just figure it out from there because I'm going to take the 22 and I'm not going to disrupt my life to go grab, you know, another little bit elsewhere. I don't know what offers he was getting.
Dan Bernstein
Right, yeah, we'll see if we find out if there was anything else that came through and you know, we'll learn that eventually, but, you know, we'll see. But it works out for the Cubs.
Matt Abaticola
It works out for the Cubs. It's not overly expensive. It should not preclude them from adding another veteran arm. Yeah, I'm confident that we're going to have enough, enough money to fill the good team.
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Matt Abaticola
Such perfection.
Gardens of Evil Podcast Narrator
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Matt Abaticola
It reminded me of Mr. Rogers.
Gardens of Evil Podcast Narrator
But Arvin hid a dark secret. My mom took me to this house.
Matt Abaticola
And then I never lived with her again. Arvin's Message was, I have a key to get you into heaven.
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Matt Abaticola
Watching some NBA last night on NBC. Noah Eagle's really good. No. Just for a young guy to sound sort of wise beyond his years. He's got just the right mix of what his dad's got. He's going to have a long career. Noah Eagle will be broadcasting big games after I'm in a box in the ground. Wait, I won't be in a box in the ground. I'll be in an urn on a mantelpiece somewhere.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, no, you'll be just right here in my shot. Oh, you're gonna.
Matt Abaticola
That's where the urn is gonna be.
Dan Bernstein
I already talked to Beth. Yeah, we're gonna have. We'll have Huell, we'll have your urn.
Matt Abaticola
Just go. Don't.
Dan Bernstein
Not on top of the turntable though. In case you spill out.
Matt Abaticola
Vic is gonna get mad. Vic is gonna get Mad at you. He's gonna come in here.
Dan Bernstein
Why is there, like, a $75,000 turntable back here?
Matt Abaticola
I don't need it.
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
Matt Abaticola
All right, so here's a. You see the turntable behind Matty here? Just move your mic for a second. Move the mic flag. Okay.
App Store Announcer
That.
Matt Abaticola
That thing behind Matty, that is a Techniques, like Vintage Techniques Pro level, actual turntable.
Dan Bernstein
Apparently, Bob Stroud used it or uses it.
Matt Abaticola
Okay, so Matty set the Huel drinks on there. When we do the Huel read, he was putting the cans and the bottles up there on there. So you can see them in the background, right? Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
I got yelled at.
Matt Abaticola
Well.
Dan Bernstein
Well, through you.
Matt Abaticola
I got yelled at through you. So Vic comes in here, one of the engineers, and he's like, you know, I just want you to know that I moved the stuff off the top of the turntable there. All those liquids. Okay? He's like, yeah, I have to keep it. Would you tell him not to put stuff on there? And I said, oh, yeah, it's all good. We can do that. And he's like, you know, that's a. That's a really expensive turntable. It costs thousands and thousands of dollars. I said, okay. He's like, yeah, we can't even risk having anything on the. Like. All right, well, first of all, the concept of a can or a bottle. We're not pouring liquid out there, right?
Dan Bernstein
They're not open. Right.
Matt Abaticola
It's not like a jewel bag with water in it.
Dan Bernstein
Like, we didn't take your clothes out of it and then dump water into it and set it on top of the turntable.
Matt Abaticola
That's my luggage you're talking about, right? That's my custom luggage. And I said, okay, no worries. And then we're thinking, what is it doing here?
Dan Bernstein
Right?
Matt Abaticola
Move it out of here.
Dan Bernstein
It's a record player.
Matt Abaticola
It's a record, Right. We're not spinning records anywhere. Matty's not cutting and scratching. There isn't a single if they wanted.
Dan Bernstein
Us to, but they said we don't.
Matt Abaticola
Need it, I guess. Bob Stroud of 97.1fm.
Dan Bernstein
I mean, the Drive iconic Hall of Famer, awesome, dude. Yes.
Matt Abaticola
Bob is the best. And he uses the studio across the hall now because this is our studio.
Dan Bernstein
We evicted him.
Matt Abaticola
Oh, yeah. We kicked everybody out of here. So it was just really funny. It's like, well, we can. Why not take that expensive, vintage, beautiful professional techniques, whatever it is turntable and move it somewhere else?
Dan Bernstein
Yep. Might work that, right?
Matt Abaticola
Yeah. Can we do that?
Dan Bernstein
So I have in my. In My career. Now. I have evicted Bob Stroud and Dave Bomb.
Matt Abaticola
Dave Baum. Yes.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, you have.
Matt Abaticola
Well, Dave. Bob. I think you fired.
Dan Bernstein
Then I fire him.
Matt Abaticola
I think you fired more than a victim.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, boy.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, well, you know, don't do anything to Bob. Bob's awesome.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. And I'm not going to touch his turntable.
Matt Abaticola
Was Bob here for the Thanksgiving meal yesterday?
Dan Bernstein
I don't know, because I was finishing up. I got out there late, never got any of the food, because the food was in the middle of all the people while the meetings were going on.
Matt Abaticola
Okay.
Dan Bernstein
And I want to be that guy.
Matt Abaticola
Because I saw Bird. Bird was here?
Dan Bernstein
Oh, Yeah.
Matt Abaticola
I didn't. 97. 1 FM.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, no.
Matt Abaticola
He's. That. That dude's like, DJ. Like, he also.
Dan Bernstein
You know. You know why?
Matt Abaticola
Dresses impeccable.
Dan Bernstein
You know why?
Matt Abaticola
Like, he's really sharp.
Dan Bernstein
I was. I was like, really? I was, like, fanboying.
App Store Announcer
Who?
Dan Bernstein
I saw Steve Tingle from the Sherman and Tingle morning show. Yeah, he was sitting.
Matt Abaticola
Really?
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, he was over there.
Matt Abaticola
Steve Tingle?
Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
Matt Abaticola
Oh, that must. Did you. Did you, like, ask him to take a picture with him?
Dan Bernstein
No, I couldn't. I was so embarrassed.
Matt Abaticola
I know.
Dan Bernstein
I was nervous.
Matt Abaticola
He's such a diva, too. Yeah. Like, you got to go through all of his people to even, like.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, you can't even say hi to him in the hallway. I know.
Matt Abaticola
You're not. You're not allowed to look at him.
Dan Bernstein
You know, he has his own private bathroom, too, down the hall.
Matt Abaticola
Did you see the person was repairing the lock on it the other day? Like he had some issue with, like, there were people from the building up here just to make sure that his bathroom was taken.
Dan Bernstein
I think what happens is he gets in there, and there's a lot of fans that sneak into the building, and they tried breaking through the door while he was, I think, doing a number two.
Matt Abaticola
His. His rabid fans are not to be messed.
Dan Bernstein
But, yeah, I saw him, like, in part. It was crazy.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah. All of his. Rabbit. The Tingle pants. Yeah, they are. You stay away from. From his. His crowd of adoring fans. Men, women, and not different species of animal are all just sort of attracted to him.
Dan Bernstein
I took my phone out to snap a picture of him.
Matt Abaticola
No, careful.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, no. Don't rip it out of your hands. Some guy came out of nowhere, and he was like, no pictures of Tingle.
Matt Abaticola
Like, okay, yeah, they'll, like, brandish a can of mace to stop you from doing that.
Dan Bernstein
So, no, I didn't see Bird. I didn't see Bob Straub. But I did see Tingle and that was.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, I know, I know.
Dan Bernstein
Gear is made like this team early.
Matt Abaticola
I know. That's so awesome.
Dan Bernstein
Like in person.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah. I'm so envious.
Dan Bernstein
I think I was staring at him too long. He actually told me I was his number one fan. He did.
Matt Abaticola
From across the rooms, everybody that.
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
Matt Abaticola
You know, he just does that to make you feel good.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, I felt great.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
That's for sure.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, I'm sure. I know. But just, just, just watch your ass, you know, you don't want to. You don't make things weird.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, it's already weird.
Matt Abaticola
So, yeah, I was watching NBA last night and it was too bad because you were the guy Wemby wasn't playing and. And that broadcast is really good. They do a great job. Reggie Miller's awesome and I like the cut of their jib, as it were. But watching Memphis and the.
Dan Bernstein
Wait, is that where you saw Noah Eagle?
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, he's the play by play guy. I didn't see him. Just watching him. Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. When I talked to Ian.
Matt Abaticola
Yes.
Dan Bernstein
A few weeks ago, we were chatting about his kid. It's really cool. I just said it's gotta be just like beyond words to be able to see your kid and. And watch him and how good he is. I remember the first time I saw him and this is. I mean, going back, you know, a few years and I can't remember what I was watching, but that might have been a football game. And I'm like, wait a second. Is that.
Matt Abaticola
That can't.
Dan Bernstein
That's not his kid, is it? I googled it and I'm like, wow, I can't believe it.
Matt Abaticola
Because that's our.
Dan Bernstein
That's our guy.
Matt Abaticola
He's got that serious voice too. Boy, have you noticed? And I got some NBA thoughts.
Dan Bernstein
But yeah.
Matt Abaticola
Noticed the proliferation of the Syracuse baritone. It is almost indistinguishable.
Dan Bernstein
Do they teach it?
Matt Abaticola
I don't know. They may at the Newhouse School, but everybody sounds the same now. So many broadcasters have exactly the same timbre, the same resonant. That ESPN baritone speaking voice you don't hear a lot of. The only major play by play guy who in basketball certainly doesn't have it. Is it Ryan Rocco? Ryan Ruko, who's got a little. And I love it. It's a little higher pitch that kind of cuts through. He's really good.
Dan Bernstein
What's he. He does NBA.
Matt Abaticola
He does some wnba. He does some NBA. Okay. So I think some college stuff. But everybody else between, like especially with the Bulls. This Year we've noticed Adam Amin, Wayne Randazzo, and now Connor Onion, who's doing some of these games, all remarkably similar vocal tone. And it may just be that the zone right now is kind of flooded with a lot of these people who've been influenced by similar people who've got that same, that same kind of voice and then, you know, tune in some college stuff. There's, there's Dan Schulman who's even. That's a low, big baritone too, and wonderful broadcaster.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, he's good.
Matt Abaticola
But the reason I'm bringing up some NBA is Steve Kerr is on the record now talking not necessarily about load management. That has become a big topic, but something that has been on my mind too, and that is the number of wear and tear injuries, number of strains, sort of aches, pains, strains and sprains that are occurring. And Steve Kerr, when he was, I think they were in Orlando and it was a shoot around or after a practice and he was talking about what his medical team is telling him about why it's. We're not being fooled if you think that more guys are missing time with these strained calves, quads, hamstrings. This isn't the NFL, it's the NBA. But the physical demands on guys now are different.
Dan Bernstein
They believe that the wear and tear, the speed, the pace, the mileage, it's all factoring into these injuries. Steve, to that point and to the point you made several times, is there ever a moment where you're in these meetings with the league where everybody's there? We were like, hey, the best thing to do would be to cut the season down a little bit like this. Does the topic of conversation even come up? I bring it up. I bring it up a lot. And I just think it's. If we're actually focused on the product, be great. We literally have not had a single practice on this road trip.
Matt Abaticola
Not one.
Dan Bernstein
Been gone a week or longer, eight days, not one practice because it's just game, game, game. So not only is there no recovery time, there's no practice time.
Matt Abaticola
Here's some numbers. According to espn, the league is playing at its fastest average collective pace since 1989. The number another summer players have also combined to travel 34.3 miles per game at an average speed of 4.43 miles per hour. It is the longest average distance and fastest average speed since player tracking began in the 2013-2014 season. What Kerr said across the league, everyone understands it's easier to score if you beat the opponent down the floor. Get out in transition. But when everybody's doing that, the games are much higher paced. Everyone has to cover out to 25ft because everyone can shoot threes. We all have the data. Players are running faster and farther than before. We're trying to do the best we can. We have a game every other night. It's not an easy thing to do. So what he said was, and this has been his position and the position of some for a long time is you got to shorten the regular season. There's just too many regular season games. And he said the tricky part is all the constituents would have to agree to take less revenue.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, that's never gonna happen.
Matt Abaticola
I love his quote. In 2025 in America, good luck. In any industry, imagine some big company saying, you know what? We're not as concerned about our stock price. We're actually concerned with employing people and giving people a stable job and making our product better. That's not happening. You know that. That's. That's the cynicism and appropriate and correct cynicism of warriors head coach Steve Kirk.
Dan Bernstein
But you know how it can happen, though? If the players say, we're collective bargaining. Yeah, we're fine. Then we're done playing. Yeah, let's figure it out. Of course, it's us. We're the talent. We're the guys with all the injuries. We're the product. So if you don't want to shorten the season, then let's have no season.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah. And. And the concession they would have to make is stars play every game, or stars play as much as they possibly can, that you're not going to have the same kind of rules about. And they're already trying to do this with making you ineligible for certain awards that can affect your contract and can affect some of that. But there's going to have to be more codified about what constitutes a reasonable skipping of a game. I don't know exactly how you do that. I know it gets dicey, and I am sensitive to all sides of this, but that's where it lies. That's where it's going to say, look, you may make less money from the total average game night, but how much more money are you going to make by guaranteeing your television partners and the people buying the tickets that you're going to see the premier players more often?
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, I understand that, but. And I'm probably a bad individual to comment on this because I don't consume regular season NBA basketball. And I'm not, you know, I'm not going to consume every playoff game. But I watch more when it's playoff time. It interests me more. And I, you know, guys don't take time off during the playoffs. So I don't care about the regular season. I don't care if you want to sit out and you're a star and you buy a ticket and you go and you missed and you don't see that star. Sorry. I mean, shit happens and you know, that's an unfortunate break for you. Then don't go. I mean, I'm just, you know, so I'm not concerned about that. But when it matters, the stars are there and I get it. I get it. And maybe it's less if they play less games.
Matt Abaticola
Make each game matter more.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Matt Abaticola
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Dan Bernstein
You got that mirror flipped around, Mr. Dessert Guy. You love your desserts. We were talking about it last night. We were giggling about it.
Matt Abaticola
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Dan Bernstein
Into a direct attack on you.
Matt Abaticola
All of a sudden there's this, this ad hominem. Yeah, well, yeah, no, I had a bunch of fun sized Twix and a half a tub of Breyer's vanilla last night.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, nice. Together or like separate?
Matt Abaticola
Well, no, I was taking bites of one and then bites of the other.
Dan Bernstein
I just mix them.
Matt Abaticola
I didn't want to. Okay.
Dan Bernstein
Did you know, by the way, method to it?
Matt Abaticola
Did you know there are like five different Breyers vanillas? There's French vanilla. There's extra creamy vanilla. There is natural vanilla. And then there was another one and I got overwhelmed. I was like Robin Williams in Moscow on the Hudson when he passes out looking at all the coffee. So I'm reading the labels and I ended up, why wouldn't I buy the natural vanilla? And I did look up the number of Breyer's vanillas.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, that's what I'm looking up.
Matt Abaticola
It's wild. It's wild. That's just vanilla.
Dan Bernstein
Why didn't you do your peppermint? You just wanted vanilla with the candy bars.
Matt Abaticola
Because I was at Mariano's. The peppermint is at Juul because that's Dean's.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Matt Abaticola
And the house dairy for Mariano's is Kemp's and they don't have a peppermint, so they got other stuff. It's great. But I would have to walk across, you know, I got to Walk across Roscoe. And that might just be a bridge too far to actually walk 20ft across the street or whatever it is.
Dan Bernstein
So there's natural vanilla.
Matt Abaticola
Yes, that's what I got.
Dan Bernstein
Ice cream.
Matt Abaticola
That's what I got. The natural vanilla.
Dan Bernstein
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Matt Abaticola
But some of these other ones, French vanilla syrup, and that's got a lot of egg.
Dan Bernstein
Then there's extra creamy vanilla. And then there's non dairy vanilla.
Matt Abaticola
I went with natural vanilla.
Dan Bernstein
So there's the five.
Matt Abaticola
It had like four ingredients in it. It really was. It was like milk or like cream, milk, sugar, vanilla. I don't know what else was in it, but that's the one I got. And it's awesome.
Dan Bernstein
I buy that because there's the four boys. I buy the giant tub. And it's like, it's spelled like V A N. I like ll Y A. It's not even spelled right. Well, it's kind of like an off white color too.
Matt Abaticola
It's not. So it's cheap.
Dan Bernstein
And it's Big bucket here.
Matt Abaticola
Boys have a big bucket just come out of the water?
Dan Bernstein
No, I throw it on the. On the island and it's like slopping spoons out there.
Matt Abaticola
Throwing a bucket of slop into a trough.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Oh, God. And then if I don't have toppings for it.
Matt Abaticola
Like what?
Dan Bernstein
Like. Oh, you don't have cherries, whipped cream, chocolate syrup, sprinkles. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Matt Abaticola
In your house.
Dan Bernstein
Yes.
Matt Abaticola
They need a whole, like, ice cream bar. You gotta do.
Dan Bernstein
You can't just do a bowl of ice cream.
Matt Abaticola
Oh, I can't imagine taco night.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, no, Taco night's rather. It's really easy. Yeah. Because Jackie doesn't put anything on it.
Matt Abaticola
What do you mean?
Dan Bernstein
He just eats meat and shells. Or sometimes it does meat and chips.
Matt Abaticola
Oh, I thought you meant like, like cilantro and cib.
Dan Bernstein
No, he doesn't put anything on it. Okay. And then Griffin and Lucas are just like, cheese. Lucas and Griffin does sour cream. And then Hank will do pico and cheese.
Matt Abaticola
Okay, so it's.
Dan Bernstein
It's pretty. It's pretty simple.
Matt Abaticola
Now you're lucky because Jason would be like, well, with this taco, I want these tacos. And with this taco, I want these. If it's al pastor, I only want a little bit of this.
Dan Bernstein
Oh, but I also have to get. I have to get flour tortillas. Then I have to buy the flour like the boats. Have you seen those? The Broats? The Taco Broats.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
And then, and then if Jackie's not doing chips, he wants the hard shells.
Matt Abaticola
So flour tortillas. You know what that is wrong?
Dan Bernstein
Well, the corn ones fall apart. It's so annoying.
Matt Abaticola
It doesn't matter.
Dan Bernstein
It does matter.
Matt Abaticola
They taste better.
Dan Bernstein
But it does matter when it's a 12 year old kid.
Matt Abaticola
No, that kid's got to learn what's right and what's wrong. Because that comes in a taco, rips.
Dan Bernstein
In half and then, and then it's all over the plate. And then they hand me back a plate full of taco meat saying I'll have two more.
Matt Abaticola
No, don't you eat what's on your plate.
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
Matt Abaticola
All right.
Dan Bernstein
You try that, mister.
Matt Abaticola
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Dan Bernstein
Well, they're not Carlos twins. They're his kids.
Matt Abaticola
Right, his kids.
Dan Bernstein
And they are twins.
Matt Abaticola
Twins, correct. And because that'd be triplets then Cam is a really interesting prospect. There are some who think he could go number one overall. The perspective number one overall on Kansas didn't play in the game. But you know, I. I'm left from my this first blush. He is an advanced basketball player. He has a. An innate understanding of spacing, of passing. He at this age, if I didn't know who he was, I would say he was a European pro. Oh, yeah. I would not know that he was an American high school player. Previously I would have said this. Absolutely. Somebody at a young age who's played euroleague, which there is a guy on Duke, the Italian kid, Sar, who does fit that description, who's very sort of rangy. That whole team's huge. Like, they're, they're enormous. Their guards are huge. That they're, they're formidable. And Kansas is obviously too. But Cam Boozer is. He's got his father's heavy legs. And I'm just wondering at the NBA level when we start projecting a ceiling for him. He, he appears to be more of a below the rim, a crafty below the rim power player. At six nine.
Dan Bernstein
He's only six nine. I thought he was taller.
Matt Abaticola
Yeah, he's six nine. He is more athletic than his father, but that's not saying much. I'm just a little bit concerned about his foot speed.
Dan Bernstein
Does he shoot well from the outside?
Matt Abaticola
He didn't.
Dan Bernstein
And how far out?
Matt Abaticola
He didn't last night, but he can. He's a really good passer. He's got really good vision. His, he, he handles it well for a big, he's not slow. I wouldn't say he's, he's end to end fast, but I really want to watch some of these matchups carefully of what he does against size and length underneath, because there's a lot of pump faking, there's a lot of craftiness where you're going to. He's going to go up against some, some long, quick twitch, really rangy guys that may give him some problems, but he's got a lot of, of what you can't coach. And I like, had I just really not known who he was, I would have said that is a young talent who has had European professional experience.
Dan Bernstein
How does he move defensively?
Matt Abaticola
Okay. It's more anticipation than it is quicks. Like a lot of that is his smarts. Okay. And I think defensively he might just be limited by a lack of leaping ability by being a below the rim sort of strong guy in a league that is increasingly above the rim. And fast, fast, fast, fast, fast. So we'll see if he came around 15 years ago, you're looking at absolutely the number one overall. But it's just, it's. It's hard. From everything we were talking about with Steve Kerr, the stuff that he's saying of keeping up with that is almost a different skill Set. Now lastly, Alabama, Illinois tonight, 8:00 start at the United Center. It's going to be kind of a late night if you're a hoopster because you've got the college game starting at 8 and the Bulls at Portland starting at 9. So I'm going to try to settle in and run it as long as I can.
Dan Bernstein
Starts at nine.
Matt Abaticola
Bulls do. Yeah.
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
Matt Abaticola
So I'll be in bed at 9:30. I know you will often I am too, but probably not tonight. But I'm very interested in seeing Illinois and Alabama. You got a couple of really, you know, teams would love to shoot that three. It's. You always want to watch Brad Underwood's teams early on. You're willing to take on some of these tough opponents, not afraid of some difficult scheduling. I just, I wish I trusted Underwood as a game coach more to learn some of the lessons from this in the tournament like when they get there and when they see some of these matchups that's still what I think is going to end up as their Achilles heel. But you've got the. Is it the Ivic, Tomislav Ivic and Zvonimir Ivicich. Andre Stojakovic and yes that is of the Stojakovich's and they've got David Merkavich and, and Kylan Boswell who is 18.5 points per game and nearly 4 assists leading them in assistance steals. He cannot get into foul trouble because of what he means to kind of keep everything together. Boswell is kind of the glue that holds all this. But I'll be interested to see against yet another talented high flying three point shooting. Nate Oates Alabama team.
Dan Bernstein
Can I share a college. The college football rankings playoff rankings came out.
Matt Abaticola
Yes.
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. So this is the, I think the third, the third version of the College Football Playoff rankings. Number one, Ohio State 2 Indiana 3 Texas A&M 4 Georgia 5 Texas Tech 6 is Ole Miss 7 Oregon 8 Oklahoma 9 Notre Dame Alabama at 10. BYU 11 Utah at 12. Miami 13 Vanderbilt 14 USC at 15. So that's the top 15 for the College football playoff rankings and one of the brackets I saw where people are like you know, bracket predictions had tulane.
Matt Abaticola
As the 12 seed from the Group of Five. Group of Five. Yeah, the G5, the American Conference it could be right now it's James Madison and what Navy?
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, but yeah, James Madison and two lanes.
Matt Abaticola
USF was still there and, but it.
Dan Bernstein
Seems from most of what I read about people predicting the stuff that are that that are on the inside a lot more than I ever will be or want to be saying that probably 10, 10 of the 12 are probably locked in as of right now. Alabama being one of the teams that they have on the outside, possibly looking in.
Matt Abaticola
Hmm.
Dan Bernstein
Vanderbilt also being one of those teams. I don't think they'll make the top 12. Yeah. Notre Dame has the joy of playing. I think Syracuse and usc, who have, I don't know, I think they're combined for six wins their final two games. So they'll stay. They'll stay there.
Matt Abaticola
I was waiting.
Dan Bernstein
I didn't say anything. I'm just making. I'm just stating a fact. I'm stating their schedule. They didn't make their sketch.
Matt Abaticola
Well, maybe, kind of. That's going to do it for Dan Bernstein. Unfiltered today. Presented by my bookie.
Dan Bernstein
Sure was. Presented by my bookie again. I was reading the damn screen.
Matt Abaticola
This guy. This guy.
Dan Bernstein
All right, say bye again.
Matt Abaticola
Bye. Dan Bernstein.
Dan Bernstein
Unfiltered.
Matt Abaticola
Unfiltered on three.
Dan Bernstein
One, two sports.
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Podcast: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered
Host: Dan Bernstein with Matt Abbatacola
Date: November 19, 2025
Episode Length: ~66 minutes
Main Theme:
A candid breakdown of the Chicago Bears’ defensive struggles – specifically, their anemic pass rush and what needs to change to finally “close the book” on Aaron Rodgers' dominance. The hosts analyze the numbers, the challenge posed by Rodgers even late in his career, debate coaching philosophies, and branch out into Chicago Cubs off-season pitching moves, NBA injury trends, and college hoops.
On Defensive Identity:
"I like to think it’s their identity and we don’t have to hide from it. We don’t have to play fanboy. Don’t say anything bad about my team. You suck. Okay, great, whatever. But we know it."
– Dan Bernstein (09:20)
On Taking Ownership from Rodgers:
"Well, I think taking ownership back would be valuable to this organization. They could say we own us again."
– Dan Bernstein (22:35)
On Current State of MLB Labor:
"This starts softly and quietly with soft collusion, with de facto collusion..."
– Matt Abbatacola (33:25)
On NBA Load Management:
"All the constituents would have to agree to take less revenue... Good luck. In any industry... that's not happening."
– Matt Abbatacola (48:28)
Unvarnished, passionate, and playful Chicago sports talk with a dose of sarcasm and local flavor. Dan is especially frank about the Bears' flaws, not shying away from hard truths, while Matt mixes technical insight and humor.