Chicago Bulls LOSE in ugly fashion to now 3-15 Pelicans

Summary

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered, Ep. 120 ("Chicago Bulls LOSE in ugly fashion to now 3-15 Pelicans")

Date: November 25, 2025
Host: Dan Bernstein (with Jason Bernstein)
Podcast: Organizations Win Championships on 312 Sports

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the Chicago Bulls’ embarrassing loss to the New Orleans Pelicans (now 3-15), analyzing the persistent issues plaguing the Bulls—especially their lack of physicality, defensive woes, and failure to meet expectations against clearly inferior teams. Dan and Jason Bernstein blend sharp basketball analysis with their trademark banter, discussing recent games, coaching, and player performances while riffing on Bulls' long-term prospects and making several amusing asides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Bulls' Lack of Physicality and Effort

• The Bulls’ ongoing problem is a lack of physical play, which has come to a head in recent games, notably the ugly loss to the Pelicans.
• "If you're talking about hitting rock bottom, to the point where you gotta admit that you have a problem—the Bulls better go back and admit that they have a big problem with lack of physicality." — Jason Bernstein, 03:01

Bulls’ Bad Habits and Play Down to Opponents

• The Bulls routinely “play down” to the level of their competition, coasting against weak teams and often getting burnt as a result.
• Reference to the Portland game as the start of downward trajectory, followed by the Heat and Wizards games where poor habits and arrogance built up "bad vibes."

Pelicans Game Deep Dive

• The Bulls surrendered 74 first-half points to the Pelicans—a stunning stat.
• Zion Williamson dominated with 29 points (13/16 FTs), and didn’t even look fatigued post-injury (05:52).
• "10 offensive rebounds, three blocks… the Bulls got out-rebounded 55 to 33. The Bulls’ leading rebounder was Josh Giddy with seven." — Jason Bernstein, 06:00
• Commentary about opponents treating Bulls’ defense like "hockey dump and chase"—pushing the ball in and swarming for rebounds because of the Bulls’ static, unathletic posture (07:01–08:28).

Defensive Scheme Flaws and Personnel Issues

• Predominant drop defense and poor execution on handling pick-and-rolls are rooted in the team’s lack of athleticism and rim protection.
• "You can't switch everything... When teams anticipate the switch, they can dictate matchups." — Dan Bernstein, 10:32
• Injuries and missing key defenders (e.g., Alex Caruso, Dale Terry) exacerbate defensive struggles (11:38–12:02).

Three-Point Identity — or Delusion

• Bulls are very good at three-point shooting (team shooting 37.9%), which keeps them afloat, but there’s a refusal to understand this identity at times.
• "Please try to understand that… when the three-point shot's not falling, go to the post. No, when the three-point shot's not falling, shoot another one." — Jason Bernstein, 09:36

Missed Energy, Toughness, and Roster Depth

• Bulls miss players who provide energy and set the defensive tone (Herder, Vuc as offensive fulcrum).
• Suggestion to give minutes to more physically imposing or rugged players like Emmanuel Miller, even if their games aren't polished ("rather someone that’s physical and sucks than someone not physical and sucks" — Dan, 14:50).

Locker Room & Veteran Influence

• Highlighting Vucevic having had to "literally shove" a teammate to wake up the team’s attitude post-game.
• Referencing previous years’ locker room blowups as a sign of high frustration and lack of leadership traction (23:50–24:39).
• "We don’t have enough talent to win like this. You can't come from behind every game." — Dan Bernstein quoting Vucevic, 22:45

Pelicans’ Progress and Coach Talk

• Discussion of why Pelicans replaced head coach Willie Green with James Borrego, seeing more promise with the latter’s management (05:08).
• “I don't think [Willie Green’s] game management is very good. I don't think he calls timeouts at the right time. And I don't think he played the young guys enough.” — Dan, 05:08

Hilarious Broadcasting & Analysis Blunders

• Recap of Kendall Gill’s hilarious comparison of rookie Derek Queen to Moses Malone:
  • “Derek Queen, quote, reminds me of a young Moses Malone. Now there’s being kind of… and then there’s just…” — Jason Bernstein, 17:40
  • Both hosts mock these absurd TV comp moments, recalling other infamous broadcast comparison gaffes.
• Side story: Missed presence of Jason Goff for offering the perfect deadpan reaction to such moments (16:12–18:13).

Upcoming Schedule, Practice Needs, and Realistic Outlook

• Bulls face tough upcoming games (at Charlotte, Indiana, Orlando, then home vs Brooklyn, Golden State, Cleveland).
• “They need to be yelled at.” — Dan, 29:07 (on needing more toughness, accountability, perhaps a coaching shake-up).
• Billy Donovan’s coaching temperament discussed—contrasted with more firebrand options; question whether players can be "scared straight."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:01] Jason Bernstein: "If you're talking about hitting rock bottom… to the point where you gotta admit you have a problem—the Bulls better go back and admit that they have a big problem with lack of physicality."
• [05:52] Jason Bernstein: "29 for Williamson, by the way, on 8-of-14 shooting, 13-of-16 from the line. Absolutely lived…"
• [09:36] Jason Bernstein: “When the three point shot’s not falling, shoot another one.”
• [14:50] Dan Bernstein: “I would rather take somebody that's physical and sucks than someone that isn't physical and sucks.”
• [17:40] Jason Bernstein: “Kendall said, Derek Queen, quote, reminds me of a young Moses Malone…”
• [22:45] Dan Bernstein (quoting Vucevic): “We don’t have enough talent to win like this. ... You can't come from behind every game.”
• [29:07] Dan Bernstein: “They need to be yelled at.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:27–04:43: Bulls’ effort, attitude, and Vucevic’s on-bench role
• 05:00–06:03: Zion Williamson’s performance against Bulls
• 06:12–08:28: Bulls out-rebounded, defensive identity, "dump and chase" metaphor
• 10:32–11:38: Defensive scheme flaws
• 12:02–13:59: Missing energy, player development woes
• 14:50: Roster depth, desire for physicality over skill
• 16:12–18:13: On-air analysis gaffes (comparing Derek Queen to Moses Malone)
• 21:27–23:01: Defensive rotations; giving up crucial corner threes (Sadiq Bay example)
• 23:50–24:39: Locker room blowup history, leadership struggles
• 29:07–29:13: Accountability, coaching style
• 31:05–32:14: Zion vs Julius Randle comparison, Zion’s evolving game
• 34:05–46:14: Basketball trivia & Bulls player encounters (lighter banter)

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Tone & Style

• The episode balances critical, direct Chicago sports talk with sarcasm, playful banter, and family dynamic.
• Jokes fly regarding generational divide ("you're old, you don't get it"), inside baseball on Chicago media beefs, and random tangents (ass comparisons, tattoos, family resemblance disputes).
• Despite the humor, both hosts show clear frustration and disappointment—in a classic, no-nonsense style aimed at fellow Bulls fans.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll come away knowing:

• The Bulls hit a new low with their loss to a struggling Pelicans team, exposing recurring flaws in physicality, effort, and defensive schemes.
• The team’s over-reliance on three-point shooting and recurring lapses in effort/rotation are huge issues.
• Leadership and roster construction are major concerns, and frustration is boiling over among veterans and commentators alike.
• There are plenty of laughs—often at the expense of the Bulls, media personalities, and even each other—but the message is clear: the Bulls need changes, or more embarrassing losses await.

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"That's why they can compete ... Let's not say they're good."
— Dan Bernstein, 10:17

"We both have big Jew ass noses. He has his mother's."
— Jason Bernstein, 27:00 (classic humorous aside)

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This episode is a must-listen for Bulls fans who want truth, humor, and accountability.

Transcript

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[Jason]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Wish me luck.

[Jason]

Wish me luck. Look what's sitting. Careful. I see we're talking about the Bulls and physicality, and the Bulls need to.

[Dan Bernstein]

What? They want you on the roster.

[Jason]

No, I'm just saying I have to make sure that I'm properly boxing you out.

[Dan Bernstein]

I might have to do the. No. The nut tap.

[Jason]

No. Did you see what happened in the football game last night?

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason]

You didn't see what happened between the. A guy at the very end of the. Or maybe. I think he did it early. There was a fight.

[Dan Bernstein]

Welcome to episode 120 of the Organizations Win Championships podcast. I'm here with Schmuck McGee and. Hello, my name is Jason Bernstein, and we're here to talk about your Chicago Bulls.

[Jason]

Yeah, they're bad. That was brutal. Oh, my God. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know why they're doing it. Other than I loved thinking about Nikola Vucevic taking the game off and just being like, okay, show me what you got.

[Dan Bernstein]

Was he just taking it off or was he hurt?

[Jason]

He was out. I mean, this is supposed to be a game that you can take off and rest a few guys when you're going up against them. And Vuch was sitting there in his street clothes like, okay, gentlemen, you like celebrating that win?

[Dan Bernstein]

Did I not tell you days before the game that I thought they might lose that game? I told you.

[Jason]

I know you did.

[Dan Bernstein]

And you said. You said there's no way.

[Jason]

Well, I didn't know that Vuch was going to be.

[Dan Bernstein]

I told you that Zion was playing.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't know that Herb Jones was out. I knew that Poole was hurt, and I was sad that Carlo Matkovic was out.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

You've been talking to him. Oh, I just. That's a guy I like. Colin McKavick and Eve Mece and I. Something that's the type of player the Bulls Need. But.

[Jason]

That.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was a shit show.

[Jason]

Well, it has been since the Portland game and since they thought they could sleepwalk their way through the Portland game.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then that team is good, too.

[Jason]

Well, not yet. They will be. Yeah, they're not good yet. But the Bulls always will play down to their level of competition. And I think that that bottomed out. If you're talking about the. The hitting rock bottom, to the point where you got to admit that you have a problem. The Bulls better go back and admit that they have a big problem with a lack of physicality. And if we want to start listing what has been going on, it isn't just the most recent game where they gave us 74 first half points to the Pelicans. 74 and a half to the Pelicans. Man. It started in Portland, and the Heat obviously did bad things for them. That thing was over before it started. And the Wizards game, they were clowning their way around through that whole game and took the wrong message from the victory to the point where Vouch had to literally shove Modest Bou Zealous out of the way and tell Jalen Smith to quit clowning. And they said, smile. Why can't you be happy? He couldn't be happy because his team sucked and they didn't understand why. And he did, and nobody was listening to anybody. So there he was on the bench watching all of that unfold.

[Dan Bernstein]

He kind of did sit back and cross his legs. There were a couple shots of him.

[Jason]

He was just kind of, yeah, have fun out there. Now are you happy now? That's what I'd be thinking. Where's your smile, Modest? Where's that smile? Jalen? Where's all the clowning? Where's that? I'm not. I'm not seeing that right now because Zion Williamson is too busy getting a whole hum. 27 on you.

[Dan Bernstein]

He. Was it 27 or was it more? Because it was 20. Check. I will go ahead, but. And he looks healthy or healthier, and I know he's coming off of a hamstring injury. That's not what I'm concerned about. He looks into shape. And you said this. He didn't look tired.

[Jason]

At the end of the game when he went to the foul line, I expected to see him dripping sweat, and he was not.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a scary sight. And I'm not saying the Pelicans are going to be great anytime soon, because they're not. And they.

[Jason]

No, but you can see what they're doing a little bit.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they fired their head coach. I And James Borrego helped develop Lamello ball in Charlotte. And he's. He's the. Their interim coach right now. And I don't know if he's going to be their head coach for the future, but getting rid of Willie Green after watching a lot of Pelicans games, that was the right decision. Why not a good coach? Okay, well, why. I don't. I don't think his game management is very good. I don't think he calls timeouts at the right time. And I don't think he plays. He played the young guys enough. And even though I'm not the biggest fan of Derrick Queen, I support him starting, especially when herb Jones is hurt.

[Jason]

29 for Williamson, by the way, an 8 of 14 shooting. 13 of 16 from the line. Absolutely lived.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wait, say that again from the line.

[Jason]

13 of 16.

[Dan Bernstein]

81%. Yeah, that's. That's pretty good. And yeah, the Bulls couldn't hit a free throw. 20 and Trey Murphy.

[Jason]

How about Jose Alvarado, too? Hey, his first half better than his second, you know, Eve missy finished with four. 10 offensive rebounds. 10 offensive rebounds for three blocks. And the Bulls got out. Rebounded. They were 55 to 33. Out rebounded 55 to 33. The Bulls leading rebounder was Josh Giddy with seven. And this is what's been happening in these games. And you saw it happen in the Portland game first with Donovan Clingan. And. And what we see is a Opponents playing hockey, opponents playing dump and chase hockey.

[Dan Bernstein]

Put it in hockey.

[Jason]

They should be playing motley cruel kickstart. My heart is still the best Warm up music. It's great.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

You have to admit it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, of course. And there's a. Remember what you said about one of my former teammates and just said he definitely listens to it unironically when he's just like reading a book.

[Jason]

Because I know exactly who you're doing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Don't need to roast him too much.

[Jason]

Nice guy.

[Dan Bernstein]

He had his moments.

[Jason]

He's so. Hockey. Yes, yes, he had his moments.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was a great player. Great player.

[Jason]

But like they say, hockey's very important to him. Hockey is very important to him. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. But.

[Jason]

Yeah, definitely not a basketball song at this point yet. But someday if. If they can come out and skate in circles. It's the. That's the. It's the best for immediately when everybody runs, you know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, of course.

[Jason]

Skates out. Then they go to do the thing and then whatever. That's all AC DC for the rest of the game. Whatever they do. What Was I talking about. I was talking about how they got out, rebounded because the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Dump and chase.

[Jason]

Dump and chase. Because the Bulls just stand there. They stand there. I'm not saying that everybody on the team has got to be above the rim, but they definitely. They lack explosiveness, they lack height, they lack physicality.

[Dan Bernstein]

So you're basically just saying they lack everything that makes a team good. No, no, no.

[Jason]

They're. They can shoot a little bit.

[Dan Bernstein]

They're.

[Jason]

They're quick. They're in really good shape. They've got some multifaceted, skilled guys. Oh, did they miss? That's, as the kids say, low key. They missed the effort of Herder, the tone set of the effort that I think they took for granted. And obviously they missed Vuch being a fulcrum to, to go through everything. Not because they're supposed to dump it down to him and get points, because that's continuing to make me crazy that for whatever reason, Stacy's. I watch games.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like Vuch shooting the three. What's he shooting from three this year?

[Jason]

Well, that there's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Check, check, check. Vuj's percentage from 3.

[Jason]

Well, I think he was close to 4.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly. I'd rather him shoot that.

[Jason]

Yeah, it's worth more. But there's been this. This refusal to understand what the Bulls are doing. The Bulls are shooting threes. It's what they do. Why am I talking like Ed Farmer?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know why I'm breaking into.

[Jason]

Farmio, but I think I am. We can talk about St. Rita baseball now.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's not. But I don't.

[Jason]

But they're the. Please try to understand that. You can't say, well, when the three point shot's not falling, go to the post. No, when the three point shot's not falling, shoot another one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Exactly.

[Jason]

Because that's what they do. Vuch is 407 right now. From three point range, he's 407.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's damn good.

[Jason]

IO is at 475. Javon Carter is at 444.

[Dan Bernstein]

Jalen Smith is at 39%. Patrick Williams is at 39%.

[Jason]

As a team, even a Coro is at 38.

[Dan Bernstein]

Look at the team number 30, 38.

[Jason]

Three hundred and seventy nine is a team. That's why they're good, is because they make 38% of their threes.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's why they. That's why they can compete.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's not say they're good.

[Jason]

No, I mean, but they're still above.500. They just continually play down to their competition. There's only so much yelling and screaming. I want them to do a couple of things going forward.

[Dan Bernstein]

Get a rim protector. I've been saying this for five years.

[Jason]

They don't have one.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, I'm.

[Jason]

Outside of personnel changes. Outside of personnel changes, especially late in games, they've got to fight harder over and under and around ball screens like this. You can't switch everything. And the. When teams start anticipating the switch, they can dictate matchups. As long as they can understand matchups. They can, they can do that ends of games to get their best player a chance on a defender that they want. So when you'd hear Tom Thibodeau yelling out ice, ice, ice. What he's saying is to obviate that screen. It's also called downing pick and roll. It takes a lot of effort to do that where you. Where you can go up and around instead of being screened. You get up and around the screen. You force the ball handler back while the big drops and helps in a zone. Now, it's hard to do that because all the Bulls do is do drop defense.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's all because they're not athletic enough.

[Jason]

And when they, when they're dropping on defense without a guy like Alex Caruso or Lonzo Ball, you don't get the peel back or, or.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, and they were missing a Coro in this game. And I don't think he brings you much offensively.

[Jason]

No, but. And Dale and Terry's not a bad defender either. And they didn't have him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct.

[Jason]

So some of their more athletic defenders were not available.

[Dan Bernstein]

And you know the guy that I was really impressed by last night that I, That I. That didn't play when I had gone to the game earlier this year for the Pelicans. Micah Peavey Sakura. Yeah. Good defender. Great defender. He was everywhere. And I know it's early and I know he's a project, but I don't know what the vision is with a Senge. I'm not convinced right now.

[Jason]

Well, I mean, the vision has got to be long term. Of course, whatever it is, somebody sees something that he can be. But the more you start looking at this year's rookie class and guys who are contributing, that better pay off. Man, he looks overwhelmed is what he looks like he looks at.

[Dan Bernstein]

The numbers in the G League are fine.

[Jason]

They'd play him there and let him. Let him. As long as he has access to the Bulls facilities, weight room, etc. Let him be there. I don't need to see him at the NBA level right now, unless something else happens. If the Bulls fall out of it, if they. If they're not. But they don't because they compete, and that's what they're going to do.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I've been saying. And I've also been saying. You've been talking about physicality, and I've been saying this for a couple of games. I like Emmanuel Miller to be that guy.

[Jason]

You're not going to play Emmanuel Miller.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'd rather them play him than a senge stronger. He's huge.

[Jason]

I don't know much about Emmanuel Miller.

[Dan Bernstein]

Tcu. Big, strong. I don't really know what he brings to the table, but they need somebody a little bit more rugged.

[Jason]

He's listed at 6, 7, 2, 15. Oh, no, don't. Every time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Every time.

[Jason]

Every time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Every time.

[Jason]

You're not into grade school.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's. It's funny as hell. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It was. No.

[Jason]

You're not over it yet.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, it's not. Good. I haven't been over it for six months. Why? Because it's funny.

[Jason]

What's funny about it?

[Dan Bernstein]

It just is. Why? You're old. You don't get it.

[Jason]

Well, explain it.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can't really explain it. It's just a thing.

[Jason]

Well, explain why it's funny.

[Dan Bernstein]

It just is.

[Jason]

Is it funny in the way that.

[Dan Bernstein]

83 was funny for the younger generation? Yes.

[Jason]

Okay, but what is.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought that was a score thing.

[Jason]

You can't be doing things on the score anymore. I'm just.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh.

[Jason]

Oh, no. I'm just asking.

[Dan Bernstein]

What?

[Jason]

Why it's funny.

[Dan Bernstein]

It just. It is.

[Jason]

But that's not an excellent.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just put Emmanuel Miller in the game. Sorry. You need somebody.

[Jason]

Emmanuel Miller. He's not. It's a magic guy that they can break glass and put in and all.

[Dan Bernstein]

Of a sudden happens. Sometimes the two way guys, you know, like Isaiah Hardenstein was a two way guy and people were kind of.

[Jason]

Oh, Lachlan Ulbricht is physical. He just sucks.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would rather take somebody that's physical and sucks than someone that isn't physical and sucks like Isenge right now. Okay.

[Jason]

But that's really.

[Dan Bernstein]

That.

[Jason]

That doesn't address the problem. It doesn't address the problem. The problem is that they suck. No, it isn't. It's more than that. I was also bothered.

[Dan Bernstein]

Doom spiraling. Okay, I need.

[Jason]

Yeah, no doom spiraling before you wreck yourself.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wrecked him. I was damn near killed him. I was hearing about the lady who shaved her legs. I'm.

[Jason]

I'm Seriously, I'm. What is your deal?

[Dan Bernstein]

What are you drinking? Water.

[Jason]

Oh, it's not Nana's water, is it?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God.

[Jason]

Nana's water tastes funny.

[Dan Bernstein]

Zoe's first experience doing a shot.

[Jason]

Yes. How old was she? Five, six or seven?

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, he's going. This is my podcast now. Quidditch. Quidditch.

[Jason]

All right, so I will tell you there was a moment last night. Please stop. I'm serious. Please stop.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, there's a moment last night.

[Jason]

Where we missed Jason Gough. And you probably when we had Jason on, we were talking to him about this. Oh, he's nothing against Cam Smith, but I will tell. There was a very specific moment. Yeah. The guy replaced Jason Goff.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, okay.

[Jason]

That.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, God.

[Jason]

There was. There was never. There's never a time when I felt like a Cubs player more acutely or Astros. Then when Kendall Gill was talking about Derek Queen last night. Kendall, I love you. He compared Derek Queen. I want to be very clear about this. He said, I. I wrote it down.

[Dan Bernstein]

I wrote it down because I texted it to golf.

[Jason]

I'm not saying. Here's what he said it. He said, derek Queen. And this just, you know who he is occasionally. Who the hell is Derrick Queen? Derek Queen is a rookie on the Pelicans out of Maryland. Tall, not real athletic. Good rebounder, good passer. Yeah. Good feet like Stanley Roberts. Kendall said, Derek Queen, quote, reminds me of a young Moses Malone. Now, I stopped and I was. I.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, he also said modest was going to be better in Cooper Flag last year.

[Jason]

Still, he said, derek, we rans. You have a young Moses Malone. Now there's being kind of. And then there's just. See, that's when Jason Goff.

[Dan Bernstein]

That guy also killed us last night.

[Jason]

Who's that guy?

[Dan Bernstein]

That's Sadiq Bay.

[Jason]

Oh, that's. That is when Jason Goff would have stopped. He would have looked at Kendall. He would have simply shot him a look, and it would have been like, hold on a second. He's.

[Dan Bernstein]

What?

[Jason]

Do you remember when. When Jim Boylan compared Luke Cornett to Robert Horry and Stacy went, what? Robert Horry?

[Dan Bernstein]

What?

[Jason]

Moses Malone's career comps. This is for. I mean, Derek Queen, nice player, but you tell me if you think Derek Queen has had a nice career when his top 10 comps are Akeem Olajuwon, Dan Issel, Shaquille O', Neal, Artis Gilmore, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell, Patrick Ewing and Robert Parrish. That's good, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

That's all right.

[Jason]

Okay, but see, it's Pretty good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty good. A little bit tangy.

[Jason]

It's a little tangy. It's pretty good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Should have said that when I had my shrimp last night. A little bit of crab. It's so tangy. Little. Pretty good.

[Jason]

But especially when he said Dairy Queen.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty good.

[Jason]

When he said a young Moses Malone. Because the young Moses Malone was all over the floor.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's a three time mvp, Maybe more.

[Jason]

No, I know it was at least three, but he was in the ABA out of high school, so pretty good then, too. And then in 19, 77 and 78 on the Houston Rockets when he averaged.

[Dan Bernstein]

19 and 15, and then 25 and.

[Jason]

8 and 18 the next, the next year he averaged.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

25 and 18 and led the league in rebounding. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Including five years in a row.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

1, 2, 3 MVPs. Let's just, let's reel that in a little bit.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that's.

[Jason]

Yeah. Derek Queen. Good luck to you, young man.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I'm rooting for you.

[Jason]

Yeah, you gotta. You've got a lot to do.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I'm. I'm fine. I'm fond of the Pelicans. I see them all the time and they have a lot of talent. It's just about. Well, they don't have any draft capital and they don't know what the hell they're doing and they get hurt a lot.

[Jason]

I was going to mention something.

[Dan Bernstein]

Elseante Murray, he's also there. And you forget about him.

[Jason]

That's right. I did forget about him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thank you.

[Jason]

But something else the Bulls have to do is understand.

[Dan Bernstein]

Stop sucking.

[Jason]

Well, stop running away. Stop doing that. Don't pick your nails, I'm cleaning them. Stop it. You're on the air.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're in the air.

[Jason]

Did you, did you get like six years younger when the light went on?

[Dan Bernstein]

When I. When I shaved and got a haircut? Yes.

[Jason]

All right, well, stop acting like it. But know from whom you're running away and who's shooting, who's not shooting. Even when the Bulls are trying hard, they over pursue their closeouts on too many bad shooters. They'll race out to get a guy who can't wait to drive and would prefer to put it on the floor. So when you run out out of control and then you're chopping stride to come cover a shooter. And they say thank you and they go right around you.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's Mike A. Peavey. Because he. He's not the best shooter in the world.

[Jason]

That's a lot of guys.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he would rather go to the Basket. They were running circles around him last night. Oh, yeah. No, they. It was never again. But let me finish.

[Jason]

There were also times when the Bulls are then losing shooters and you'll see them in. In rotation.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, the last.

[Jason]

Well, they left Sadiq.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. In the corner. That's exactly what I was going to say with. What was it, a minute and a half when they cut it to 8 or something like that and they left. They left Sadiq Bay, wide butt, naked butt, booty naked, open in the corner. And he made it. That's the.

[Jason]

That's the shot everybody wants.

[Dan Bernstein]

And that's a good player to have shooting it.

[Jason]

It's the shot every offense works to get, is an uncontested corner.

[Dan Bernstein]

3.

[Jason]

Best shot in basketball. By the value of the shot itself, by the math, it is the best shot in basketball. And the Bulls chose to give that up. That's what I don't get. You know, there's only X number of rage breaks that a coach can take any number of those timeouts where you're just trying to stop the other team. And at some point you gotta. You gotta do it like Vuch was last night. And just there it is. You guys figured out.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he even said in the interview that we don't have enough talent to win like this. And that's true. You can't. You can't come from behind every game. And dare I say, I don't think they're a better team. The Pelicans are more talented than the Bulls.

[Jason]

When. When both teams are at their healthiest. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

I don't really think that's that big a deal to say that. It's just. It's too bad they couldn't take better advantage of where they are in their schedule right now, because you got to figure it out now. You got the. You're at Charlotte on Friday, you're at Indiana Saturday. You know, to already. I don't mind. I understand you lost to the Heat, but this one. This sucked. To give up 143 points to the Pelicans after you got the warning shot. You got that. You got the opportunity to have your veteran player cuss you out. You know, I was. I was going back. It was two years ago when they had a. A halftime locker room blow up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Jason]

It was at Minnesota and Minnesota wasn't. Wasn't good. Was it three years ago already when it went. No, it was when.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think it might have been the year after the Bulls were really. When demar had his ridiculous run So I think that was the 22, 23 season.

[Jason]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

So three. Yeah, three years ago.

[Jason]

Three years ago, when Goran Dragic, his basketball sensibilities were so offended at halftime of a game in Minneapolis that they all ran a code red on Zach lavine. As. As we found out later, they basically had it. They were done with him. It's like, realize what's going on here. You have teammates that it's not all about you just finding your shot and you gotta. It's a little different because it's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like the Bulls are playing. It's all about me right now.

[Jason]

No, they're just playing. It's all bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

No, it isn't. Well, it is in some, to some degree, because of the selflessness that goes into the physicality of box outs.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And not just box outs. Getting in front of the ball, sacrificing your body. It doesn't have to be a charge.

[Dan Bernstein]

Every time, even taking a blocking foul.

[Jason]

Just get in between the ball and the basket and don't turn. And giddy does this too, that he'll look like he's going to do it.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then he'll say this, Patrick. Patrick does put his body on the line a little bit more than everybody else. And I was going to kind of go a little bit broader here. And when the Bulls are. What was it, five and one, six and one, something like that.

[Jason]

There were six and one. They're five and six and one.

[Dan Bernstein]

And they checked. I believe. I believe that's right. Because they lost in New York and then beat Philly.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

So when they. When they were winning, everyone was saying, oh, the power of friendship. And so they. They might have thought, oh, we're pretty good. We can cruise to a couple of victories with the way we've been playing. But the thing is that in those games, one, they were playing hard, and two, they. They against the Pistons in that first game, they almost choked that away. And woof. That team, you don't mess. They're. They're the best team in the east right now. Yep.

[Jason]

What do they want, 13 in a.

[Dan Bernstein]

Row or something like. Something like that. With. With my guy.

[Jason]

He had 21 the other day. Which guy? You got a million guys on the Pistons.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on.

[Jason]

Your guy on the pistol. Oh, Jalen Duran.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason]

Oh, Javante.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Oh.

[Jason]

What are you doing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Stretching.

[Jason]

Jason, there's a camera here. You're not lying in your bed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, when I'm stretching and I'm doing all that crazy stuff, I still look better than you, you ugly pig. And here Come the comments saying, oh, but he looks exactly like you. I look like my mother. Yeah.

[Jason]

Can we seriously, I want to put that to rest. We don't look alike. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is it because of the glasses?

[Jason]

Well, I mean, first of all, even though it would appear to the untrained eye that we have the same nose. We don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

We just have big noses.

[Jason]

We both have big Jew ass noses. He has his mother's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Better than having an astronaut.

[Jason]

He has his mother's big nose, not his father's big nose. He's got thin lips. I have thick lips. His face sort of tapers into a point.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yours is a block.

[Jason]

Mine doesn't. He looks like his mother's father. That's who he looks like. And pictures of Beth, dad when he was his age bear that out. He does not look like me. He may sound like me.

[Dan Bernstein]

I do sound like you. Everybody that I know says you sound exactly like your dad.

[Jason]

Well, I used to get it all the time sounding like Papa when I would call home and my own mother would call me Bruce.

[Dan Bernstein]

Mom calls me Dan sometimes.

[Jason]

She does?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, that's just.

[Jason]

That just means she's mad at you. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Whenever she's pissed off at me, she goes, Dan. I mean, Jason.

[Jason]

Yeah, I mean, she does it to me, too. Jason. Sorry. Zoe. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Maggie.

[Jason]

She'll just yell at everybody.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Where's Maggie?

[Dan Bernstein]

She left earlier. Oh, I know.

[Jason]

I missed the dog. That's too bad. So, the upcoming games, she was barking.

[Dan Bernstein]

Earlier when she thought no one was home. Today, Isabelle was in the house and I was asleep and I woke up to her sitting at the front door barking.

[Jason]

Isabelle or Maggie? Maggie. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct.

[Jason]

All right, that makes more sense.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I came downstairs and Maggie just went.

[Jason]

Oh, because she realized you were home.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

That's a great story. I'm glad you told it.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're welcome.

[Jason]

Thank you. It's brilliant. Everybody just loves that story. So, at Charlotte, at Indiana, at Orlando on Monday, December 1st. And then the home games are Brooklyn, Indiana, Golden State, Cleveland.

[Dan Bernstein]

So Golden State's good.

[Jason]

What I'm. What I'm just looking for is practice time. If you're going now from New Orleans to Charlotte, I don't know if they're probably stopping home for Thanksgiving, right? I mean, they'll let everybody have Thanksgiving here and then they'll head out. I hope they have time for at least one practice where they're going to get everybody together.

[Dan Bernstein]

They need to be yelled at.

[Jason]

Well, they were Vuch did.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know.

[Jason]

And Billy doesn't do that, though. It's just not his style. You know, it's not. He. He's not gonna have a bag skate where he's just gonna run him for a practice. The NBA.

[Dan Bernstein]

But it.

[Jason]

I don't know what you have to do to convince. It was a bad look for Modest. It was a bad look for Jalen Smith, especially. Especially Modest because.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not really Jalen Smith.

[Jason]

I thought. I thought Modest knew better because he is willing to be physically, certainly physical on offense. But if you're going to be physical on offense, deliver it defensively too.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he's. He got.

[Jason]

He got physically punked a couple times last night.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, he got.

[Jason]

It was Bay that did it once and somebody else too, where you just. You. You can't be pushed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Zion, I mean. Well, that's a little bit different when you're going up against a guy like that.

[Jason]

Correct. I think that's a relatively unique case. I'm not gonna punish a guy for having trouble physically with Zion Williamson.

[Dan Bernstein]

God, it was a quiet 29.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

He didn't have any of his.

[Jason]

Because he was from the line.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And he didn't have any of his rah rah dunks and anything like that. That's what concerns me.

[Jason]

Well, because maybe he's getting better at budgeting his energy when. Rather than having to just try to be spectacular or jump out of the gym on every dunk.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like some of those layups he was doing showed real touch. Yeah.

[Jason]

You know what? Let me ask you this. How would you compare him?

[Dan Bernstein]

Are you saying a player.

[Jason]

Yeah. To Julius Randall.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not as good of a shooter. And he. He's more physical. Randall's big, but he. Not he. I don't think he's as willing as Zion to really lower the shoulder.

[Jason]

No. But he doesn't.

[Dan Bernstein]

Are you saying that because he's a lefty or.

[Jason]

Yeah. Just when would you try to picture.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not as good of a shooter? But I do think that there's a little bit there. I. But I think. I think he could be. He's more athletic. I think he. And he's younger. Randall's been the league since 2014.

[Jason]

Oh, I know. But I'm just trying to look at. For a healthy Zion Williamson where. Where he doesn't have to be a highlight reel all the time and he can pick his spots. Like I say, the. The reason it was, you know, 29 in good minutes and at the end, still. Still able to. To have enough energy. He wasn't just like. It wasn't hockey shifts for him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. That's another difference, apparently.

[Jason]

Oh, well, that's a stray typed in. Dan has a fat ass and Jason doesn't. He doesn't have an ass. What? You used to have a hockey ass and now you don't. It's gone.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why are you talking about my ass?

[Jason]

Cause you're saying mine isn't fat.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm not. That's what Matt's saying.

[Jason]

Well, mine isn't fat either.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, I think I have an ass. I'm not the Family Guy's Uncle Ray with the really high up anus. I'll be out in a minute.

[Jason]

Yeah, where he's, like, lying on the toilet. Yes, I remember that. You want to do the showdown? Sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

Would you stop? Are you tired?

[Jason]

Did I interrupt you? Yes, you did, actually.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm gonna punch you in the ner.

[Jason]

Ow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't do that.

[Jason]

Ow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't do that.

[Jason]

I wasn't gonna draw on you. You already have stuff written on your arm.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, I do.

[Jason]

What is that?

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a tattoo. You know I have a tattoo. I know, but it looks weird. It really doesn't.

[Jason]

It looks like you were in class and you got bored.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, that's not.

[Jason]

Wrote some motivational slogan.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's not what it.

[Jason]

What it looks. Always rise and grind. Drink mushroom coffee.

[Dan Bernstein]

Watching.

[Jason]

Why am I catching a straight. Watching your Andrew Tate videos?

[Dan Bernstein]

I. Okay, for the record, I hate Andrew Tate.

[Jason]

That's a joke.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, come on.

[Jason]

That's a joke.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then he's one of the biggest POS is on the planet. Yeah.

[Jason]

Then you do your. Your video of, like, you're eating your special granola. Then I do a bunch of reps.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty good.

[Jason]

It's pretty good. Okay, hold on.

[Dan Bernstein]

I gotta get my phone. I didn't want to write it here. Do you want me to do mine first? No. Fine. All right, so mine's more of a personal thing.

[Jason]

Look, I have a text today. You can't do that anymore. Jesus.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so over the past four years. Five years, I've met. I've met a few Bulls players.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And. But the thing is that. Can you name the bowlers that are the five Bulls players that I've met that played for the Bulls within the last 10 years?

[Jason]

Bulls players that you've met? Yes, that have played for the Bulls.

[Dan Bernstein]

In the past 10 years, so it doesn't count Will or Kendall or anybody like that? Too old.

[Jason]

How about R.J. hunter? Damn it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought that was gonna be a tough one. All right. Yeah. RJ Hunter. Shout out my guy.

[Jason]

Yeah, I know that's your dude. And met Matt like anywhere. Oh, Dale and Terry.

[Dan Bernstein]

Dale and Terry.

[Jason]

Dan, Terry, Dale, Terry. Former Bulls players you met. I'm trying to remember.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, Bulls players. Doesn't have to be former. Dale and Terry is on the team.

[Jason]

Bulls players that you've, like, run into somewhere, or was it at a.

[Dan Bernstein]

You got two of them. I got two of them.

[Jason]

I'm trying to think if there's anybody else on. Wendy. Oh, he was on the Bulls briefly. Our guy from Estonia, Henry Drell.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, forgot about Henry Drill. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. But Henry Drell, that's another one. So that's what, three of six? Last time I checked, he was.

[Jason]

How often do you check? Every day.

[Dan Bernstein]

Every day. I believe he was with Portland's G League team last. And maybe he's overseas right now. Yeah, he's overseas playing in the Spanish league. In the Spanish Liga ACB. Oh. And scored 11 points last night or two nights ago.

[Jason]

All right, so will Purdue. Doesn't count. I'm trying to think who other guys you might have met because you met Greg Monroe. But he wasn't a Bull.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct. He. I Metcyon. James C.J. mcCollum. And they're not Bulls. Oh.

[Jason]

What about over the summer? Did you meet IO?

[Dan Bernstein]

I met IO, Remember, Two years ago.

[Jason]

High five.

[Dan Bernstein]

You had a conversation with him about it?

[Jason]

Yes, I did.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's the same summer that Jacob met Javante at. At the Bubble place, The Slime factory. Slew.

[Jason]

Mo Slew.

[Dan Bernstein]

Something like that.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so you got three of them.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or full.

[Jason]

I think that's all I'm probably gonna get. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I remember. I thought you'd remember this because I had an interaction with him or I had an interaction with him and almost got in trouble. Julian Phillips.

[Jason]

Oh, that's right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Remember, I shook his hand. Yes, you weren't.

[Jason]

So he was gonna shake his hand and they lost their. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. And you should have gotten this. Adama, Sonogo, obviously.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah. So, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because I'm not counting Derek Favors or Chris Clemens or any of the other. Because they never played.

[Jason]

All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

RJ Hunter, Dalen Terry, Henry Drell, IO Dasumu, Julian Phillips, and Adama.

[Dan Bernstein]

So probably more soon if.

[Jason]

Well, we'll see. Yeah. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. I won't look.

[Jason]

I'll just tell you now. So Nikola Jokic. Nikola Jokic has now taken the lead for most points scored in this decade, including playoffs in this decade.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason]

In the 2000 and twenties. Yeah. Including playoffs in the decade of the twenties. Nikola Jokic is now the top scorer of the decade. He is also number one for the decade in rebounding, assists, and steals.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow.

[Jason]

Now, no player in NBA history has ever played in a decade in which they led in four out of five major statistical categories. Yeah. So including blocks would be the other one. The record is three. Okay, so it's a two part question. All right, well, no, I'm going to give you this part. The other part is good enough. In the 1970s, the only person who's ever let in three for a decade, I guess. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Bill Walton.

[Jason]

1970S, Kareem Walton was too hurt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Kareem.

[Jason]

Yeah. The answer is Kareem. Who's the only person who's led three? Jokic leads in four. I want you to tell me the categories.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason]

Who's second? Who is number two in points? Points, rebounds, assists, and steals. They're all different people. Points, rebounds, assists, and steals for the 2000s, including playoffs.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, in the 2000s? I started saying the 70s.

[Jason]

No, no, no. Jokic is number one in all of these.

[Dan Bernstein]

Luka somewhere.

[Jason]

Luca. No, Luka. Luca is. He's fourth in two of the categories.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Shay hasn't blown up and there's no way LeBron is there, right? No.

[Jason]

Shea is fourth in one and sixth in another.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know if he's been doing it long enough. Anthony Edwards. It's just a name. Devin. Points.

[Jason]

Devin Booker is 1, 2, 3, 4. Fifth in points. Okay, that's a pretty good guess. Shea is sixth in points. Wow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because he didn't really blow up until a couple of years ago. Oof. I'm just. Giannis trying to think. No. Somewhere.

[Jason]

Giannis is third in points and he is fourth in rebounds.

[Dan Bernstein]

And beads. No. Okay. Wow.

[Jason]

This is tough.

[Dan Bernstein]

Surprise. It's not Giannis.

[Jason]

It is not.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's any of them.

[Jason]

It's a different person in each.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know. I'm. I'm just Visa. Zubots or something.

[Jason]

For rebounds, Zubots is actually 1, 2, 3, 4. He's.

[Dan Bernstein]

If Zubas is eighth and rebounds.

[Jason]

Yeah. Vuch is fifth in rebounds.

[Dan Bernstein]

Brook Lopez, rebounds. No, because it has to be guys that are healthy. And you said steals is one of them. Yep. Mikal Bridges. No. Damn. Because he's played every game in his career.

[Jason]

This is hard. It is, but isn't it a great question?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who gets a ton of assists? Curry. Like, you gotta say his name.

[Jason]

This one. You.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, are they all, like, all stars?

[Jason]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I haven't said a single one.

[Jason]

You haven't said a single one?

[Dan Bernstein]

Kevin Durant. No, no. This is a poor showing from Jason. Jason Tatum.

[Jason]

Tatum's number two in scoring. So Jokic. He had 28. His 28 points in the. When he surpassed Jason Tatum for most points score.

[Dan Bernstein]

Over hated. It's not gonna be. It's not gonna be Halliburton.

[Jason]

Halliburton is 1, 2, 3, 6. It. Assists.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Darren Fox. Nope. No, not Levine or DeRozan. Because it's not points.

[Jason]

No, they're. They both lead in being.

[Dan Bernstein]

Could Sabonis be. Rebounds.

[Jason]

Sabonis is third.

[Dan Bernstein]

Damn.

[Jason]

It's a good guess. Simonis is third, Giannis is fourth. Vouch is fifth.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow. I'm getting everybody else rebounds. Who just gets rebounds. I'm trying to think of double double machines and things like that.

[Jason]

I can't believe.

[Dan Bernstein]

Things of that nature.

[Jason]

Crab Rangoon. Things of that nature.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, all right. Come on, now. And you're saying All Stars, like.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

MVPs.

[Jason]

No. But. But multiple awards. Other guys have won some other awards. There's. These are good players. These are star players.

[Dan Bernstein]

Blanket. I'm okay. I need to go team by team. Celtics. It's not gonna be Jalen Brown.

[Jason]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or Derek White isn't Steal.

[Jason]

That's Celtics. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Knicks. Cat. Rebounds. Nope. Randall, you mentioned earlier, Joe Nicks. Sixers. That's embiid. That's. Al Horford isn't going to be there. Come on, man.

[Jason]

Jimmy Butler.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Jason]

Butler is second in steals. Okay. Your steals leaders, just so you know, after Jokic, Butler, Chris Paul.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow.

[Jason]

Shay Dejante, Murray.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Fred Van Vliet, Dyson Daniels up there.

[Jason]

O.J. anunobi.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason]

O.G. anunobi.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason]

Those are your steals. Leave. So Jimmy Butler is one.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. And so now I need assists and rebounds.

[Jason]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Assists. Yep. And rebound. Yeah.

[Jason]

You assist, you should get just like. The guy's an assist getter.

[Dan Bernstein]

Assist getter.

[Jason]

He is a piler upper of assists and could score All Star. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Has been point guard.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Old. Not old. Old. No. Still really good.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Clippers.

[Jason]

Okay, this is gonna get annoying.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, no.

[Jason]

I'm not gonna let you just sit here and.

[Dan Bernstein]

And. Yes, you are.

[Jason]

Sit here and watch you. I get to draw on you, first of all. Okay. Ow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Stop doing that. It's punishment.

[Jason]

God, your hands are strong.

[Dan Bernstein]

Donovan Mitchell. No, no.

[Jason]

He is seventh in scoring, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

That. That doesn't surprise me. Not gonna be Jamal Murray. No. Trey Young.

[Jason]

Trey Young.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thanks.

[Jason]

Trey Young is second and assists after Trey Young, Harden, Luca, Chris, Paul, Halliburton and Westbrook. Okay. All right. So now you need rebounds. You have said Sabonis, Giannis Vuch and Zubots.

[Dan Bernstein]

There's another All Star.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Evan Mobley, maybe. No. Hasn't played long enough.

[Jason]

Stop scratching.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason]

Yeah. Seriously.

[Dan Bernstein]

Jalen Duran. No, too young. And you said All Star.

[Jason]

He has been. And he's been a depoy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, been a depoy.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not Draymond. Nope.

[Jason]

Not Draymond.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not Kawhi. Nope.

[Jason]

Not Kawhi. Let's say you number six.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not.

[Jason]

Obviously number six is Jonas Valanchunas.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow.

[Jason]

Number seven is Bam. Adebayo.

[Dan Bernstein]

Where is Stephen Adams? Top ten? No.

[Jason]

Nope.

[Dan Bernstein]

Rebound getter? White guy? No. Okay. American? No, not American.

[Jason]

Not American.

[Dan Bernstein]

He is not Canadian? Nope. Siakam? Nope. African? Not.

[Jason]

No, not nationally.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. European?

[Jason]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I am a Pean. And you said it's not Giannis. Correct. Is he German? Nope.

[Jason]

Greek?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. Is he Italian? No.

[Jason]

Where else have you been? In Europe?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, it's Gobert.

[Jason]

Yes, it is. Rudy Gobert.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was rough.

[Jason]

Yeah, it was. That was a rough turn for you.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was a hard. It was deceptively hard.

[Jason]

Well, that makes it fun.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, I'm done with you.

[Jason]

See, we don't look alike. Doing. On his best day. On his best day. He doesn't look like this. When is your best day? Are you planning that at some point soon?

[Dan Bernstein]

My best day? Yeah. Am I planning it?

[Jason]

Yeah. It's about time you had one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do you want to get splash of this water?

[Jason]

I'd rather not.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. So shut. Don't.

[Jason]

All right, that's going to do it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Shut your trap.

[Jason]

For organizations win championships.

[Dan Bernstein]

I hope this podcast was pretty good.

[Jason]

Pretty good. A Chicago bulls podcast on 312 sp. Organizations win championships. A Chicago Bulls podcast with Jason and dan Bernstein on 312 Sports.