C (2:18)

And we're going to talk about it a little bit later on. And we've got DBU picks for you. I brought home a winner for you. My Friday pick Landed.

B (2:27)

Yeah. Not necessary to text me, though, about it.

C (2:29)

Yeah, we'll roll. Damn. Time.

B (2:30)

Yeah, whatever. Anchor down still. You know that. That. Yeah, my. My Friday pick didn't hit because the Browns gave up a late touchdown, which screwed me on the. It was. I was getting three and a half. They won. They lost by four. And then that touchdown put the over in play. I had 36 and the Browns at three and a half. And, man, sometimes it's just. It's remarkable what the spreads do and how it works.

C (2:55)

Isn't that amazing?

B (2:56)

Yes, it is.

C (2:56)

Yeah. The whole variance thing. I hear Browns. I think a chicken. And I also texted you the picture of my breakfast.

B (3:04)

Yeah, that was a good breakfast.

C (3:05)

We got to. We had a 6:30am flight. It was first one out. We get down there and. All right, hotel room's gonna be ready in a bit. What are we doing? We're going to Daisy Maze.

B (3:15)

I love it for breakfast. So what time was that you were having?

C (3:18)

10 o'. Clock.

B (3:19)

A couple pieces of fried chicken at 10am oh, that's like a. That's an early lunch.

C (3:22)

I had a. Yep. I had a breast and a thigh and a cup of gumbo looked good.

B (3:26)

Gumbo looked really good. How was that?

C (3:27)

Gumbo was really good, actually. And Daisy Mae's is a famous New Orleans chicken. Not my favorite.

B (3:34)

Okay.

C (3:34)

It was good. Very spicy. Very spicy.

B (3:38)

Really?

C (3:38)

Yeah.

B (3:39)

And see, I don't like fried chicken being too spicy.

C (3:42)

I don't either. Which is why when I go to Popeyes, I order mild.

B (3:46)

Okay.

C (3:46)

And I also think there's something in the spicy brine at Popeyes that dries out the meat. And I don't know if it's saltier or whatever it is, so I much prefer Popeyes mild. And then I'll add spice if I want it. There's Louisiana sauce, then I'll dip it in that.

B (3:59)

How often are you getting Popeyes chicken?

C (4:01)

Whenever I want. I'm an adult and I can.

B (4:03)

Well, I know, I know, but I'm.

C (4:03)

Saying, like, are you judging me?

B (4:04)

No, not at all.

C (4:05)

Are you threatening me?

B (4:06)

No, not at all. But I just. I'm not like, if I'm getting fast food or going out to. Not a sit down type place. Like, fried chicken's not on my list of go to things, and it's right.

C (4:17)

Near me, the one.

B (4:18)

How often do you do it? Because I should do it more.

C (4:20)

Maybe three times a month.

B (4:22)

Okay.

C (4:24)

Three times a day. No, but that's just Popeyes. I will often grab a couple pieces off the hot bar. At Mariano's in the middle of the day.

B (4:32)

Oh, yeah. You did that for lunch a couple weeks ago when we went there.

C (4:34)

Car chicken.

B (4:35)

Yeah.

C (4:35)

I will definitely do car chicken every once in a while. But that's not why you called. As we get. Let me tell you a quick story here.

B (4:42)

Okay.

C (4:43)

Something I never get to do is enjoy a sporting event that I care about at a bar. I don't do that.

B (4:54)

No, that's not your thing.

C (4:55)

The more I care about something, the fewer people I want around me.

B (4:59)

Agreed.

C (4:59)

The more important it is. Like, I. Like I was with you at the White Sox game in a bar. That's one of the few times. And, you know, at the time, that's why you can't have me there. Because 19 beers later.

B (5:11)

I think that is not an exaggeration. That was 19 Miller Lights.

C (5:15)

Yeah, I had 19 that night.

B (5:16)

It was impressive, frightening, alarming.

C (5:19)

It was 19. Yeah, but see that. So I. I don't do that. I. The more important, the game. This is going back to college. When Duke was in the Final Four, I would sit by myself and watch the game and then go meet everybody for the party.

B (5:33)

Yeah. For me, it was. It goes back to the Jordan Bulls era and run. I needed to be alone. I did not want to watch the.

C (5:40)

Game with anyone because people suck and they're annoying and they smell bad and they're. Yeah. So I got to. We said, hey, let's go watch a Cub game. Where do we want to go? Jason goes, oh, we'll go to Cooter Browns. Terrific.

B (5:51)

Is he familiar with any of the establishments around Tulane?

C (5:55)

I learned that he has already an encyclopedic knowledge of various neighborhoods. Not even, like, the ones near campus, like the ones in far flung neighborhoods.

B (6:06)

Okay, but you're not even talking. Just like, bars and schedules, like, down to the employee, and they're. Oh, it's Saturday, so Jimbo's working.

C (6:12)

Right? Exactly. I know the bar back there, and. Oh, yeah. So we're good there. And he could get us a seat for. Want to go to go to Trivia Night? He can. He can save a table for us.

B (6:20)

Good man. I love it.

C (6:21)

Henry Hill.

B (6:22)

Yes. You know, is our table brought out from back?

C (6:25)

Exactly. Like, how do you know?

B (6:26)

Mr. Bernstein here, how many guests?

C (6:28)

You're not even. I don't want to say, like, you're junior. What's going to happen next year?

B (6:32)

Right.

C (6:33)

So he said, oh, it's going to be perfect. We'll go to Cooter Browns. It's a big college football bar. Because let me goes. I texted the guy, they'll have the Cub game on. So perfect.

B (6:42)

And if not, they'll turn it on for me, right? Yeah.

C (6:45)

So we get there. This is perfect. Little alcove away from the droning herd of college football fans all watching their games. And I wanted to see the college games on because I'm keeping an eye on them. We've got our own TV in this little area. Beth gets a Guinness, he gets an Abita Amber, which is the local brewery down there.

B (7:04)

Yeah, I know Abita.

C (7:06)

And I got a big platter of wings. And I'm thinking, you know what? This ain't so bad.

B (7:13)

No, it's not.

C (7:14)

Watching a game. I got what I want. We're here. I'm with my kid and my wife and we got every. I had everything I needed. We got our own little TV up there, comfortable chair like this. You know, life is good. And then it was like double, double. Well, double.

B (7:33)

Let's start with the Bush home run. So you have a lead off home run and you're like, okay. It's like you're flying high.

C (7:38)

And she was up ordering the food. So she came back. I'm like, bush just hit one out already. Yeah, it's all good. So. And it ended up being in my mind an. An analog of the Devin Hester super bowl kickoff return. Yes. One of the greatest moments in Chicago sports history ever. But this was pretty. This pretty cool against Peralta. Like, oh, man, if they can get to Peralta.

B (8:01)

Yeah. This is done, right?

C (8:02)

It's over.

B (8:03)

Yep.

C (8:04)

So feeling good. And I'll say this for Matthew Boyd, if you're going to make your manager look wrong, that's how you do it.

B (8:14)

Yeah.

C (8:14)

I mean, do it 100%, do it fast because, Jesus, it was like he was tipping everything and they were just swinging out of their shoes, lining everything everywhere. Those were not bloops and dinks.

B (8:28)

No, they weren't.

C (8:29)

Yaka tow placata.

B (8:31)

You know, and if I was a conspiracy theorist, I would question the genesis behind hit him so hard so often right from the start. So. But I'm not, not going to do that.

C (8:43)

It don't.

B (8:44)

I'm not. I said I wasn't going to do that.

C (8:46)

So. So there, there, there we are. I'm like, everything was perfect. And then it's just like repeatedly getting kicked in the nut sacks and the nico error. And that was a weird ball.

B (9:00)

It was just a weird game. Just an absolute weird game.

C (9:04)

Well, and it just had feeling. And it's like all right, what are we going to do for the next three hours? You know, we'd committed our afternoon. I'm like, I could have gone and seen one battle after another again. I could have done that. They made me shut up about it. They made a rule. I'm not allowed to talk about that movie anymore.

B (9:22)

Both of them did.

C (9:22)

Yeah.

B (9:23)

Okay.

C (9:23)

It was that and the candy bar.

B (9:24)

Wait, why were you talking about the movie a lot? Two people that hadn't seen it, though?

C (9:28)

Because I'm always talking about it. It's so good. Okay. And so then, you know, it was fine. The wings were great. Everything was good. But it's just such a letdown, man.

B (9:37)

Yeah. So I was at football. We had a. We had a game against Northside and we lost the game. Real tough game. Pretty. Pretty good football team. So we're getting ready. We have a 2:30 kick. We're there at 1:00 clock and game goes on. Check the score on my phone. I'm like, one nothing. I'm like, bush hit a home run. I tell the kids. Most the kids are Cubs fans. There's a couple of brewers fans again. Yeah. They all get. They all get excited. I'm like, oh, my God, this is great. Then I look back and it's two to one. And I'm like, oh, shit. All right, two to one, no big deal. A few minutes later, I go back at 6 to 1. I'm like, all right, ball game's over, kids. Cubs lost. So that was pretty much it. And then I was. I was glad because I. I was recording Vanderbilt, Alabama, recording the Cubs at the same time was at football. Was in a. Get home. Try to watch what I could before we went to Great America for Fright Fest. And then it was gonna.

C (10:24)

Big day.

B (10:24)

Watch what. You know, what I didn't watch after Fright Fest. And then I was like, good, I don't have to watch either one now. So perfect way to go.

C (10:31)

Well, and the. The way I look at it is this. And tell me if you think this makes any sense or if it's just pure rationalization on my part, because I tried to take sort of a global look at this whole thing. If the Cubs win tonight and you come home from Milwaukee having lost the Peralta game and not having used any of your high leverage relief in that game, and you come home with a.

B (10:58)

Split, it's not bad.

C (11:00)

It really. And. And we don't know about Cheerio. No. So if someone.

B (11:06)

He's gone.

C (11:07)

If someone were to tell you you're not going to win the Peralta game but they're going to lose Cheerio for one or two or the series. Do you take that?

B (11:18)

Yeah. If you tell me before the series starts you're going to lose the Peralta game but split and come home one.

C (11:23)

To one with Cheerio out.

B (11:25)

With Cheerio out, I'd be like, yeah, I'll take that in a second. I expected the Peralta loss.

C (11:29)

I say I don't know if I would take that because baseball's weird and you'd like to have the win there. And I do think the way it can set bullpens up and what it does for their high leverage guys. Like they got to rest their high leverage guys too.

B (11:42)

Correct.

C (11:42)

Right. So it's not just, that's not one sided. So it does change the series in allowing them to have everybody available.

B (11:49)

But losing, but losing Cheerio is huge.

C (11:51)

Sure.

B (11:52)

Only MLB player ever, ever to have three hits in the first two innings of a playoff game ever.

C (11:58)

And man, they got good swing.

B (12:00)

They do. It's almost like they knew what was coming. But I'm not saying they did.

C (12:03)

But I will say but that's, that's what a good approach makes you look like. And they are a very well coached offense when they've got a plan. And they'll have a plan against Imanaga which is why his non fastball stuff had better be sharp.

B (12:19)

See here's. Now here's the next step to those, those questions you're asking about the series and going into game two with Shota, which my confidence level is not as high as it once was with Shota.

C (12:30)

That's okay. But he's still a better pitcher than Colin Ray. That's just, he's, he's better. It doesn't mean he's going to be great tonight. And that's what's weird about baseball series. But I wonder if they've got a. The what the plan is for their approach because if they're going after the high fastballs, it's what he wants. He wants you underneath that pitch because you're misjudging it a little bit because of its carry, the induced vertical drop or whatever it is. Yes. So I don't know if he, I think if he has control of his other stuff and he's. And the splitter is sharp. Everything else is sharp. He's got a really good chance.

B (13:12)

So let me ask you this because I saw a lot after, after the game of people going after Craig Counsel and the decision to start Matthew Boyd who would you have started in game one after the.

C (13:25)

You don't have a side on the roster after what.

B (13:28)

What Boyd did in game one against the Padres, where they got guys on base, but he worked around a lot of difficult situations. They left runners on third with under two outs a couple times.

C (13:39)

I. It wasn't so much the decision, it was the. His reaction after the fact of how confident he was in the decision. And then he. Then he cloaked himself in the organization. This was an organizational. To say, no, no, you're. Come on, man.

B (13:58)

Yeah, that's.

C (14:00)

Yeah, like, I thought that was a little defensive, like, get off my back. Sort of the Joe Madden. Just because it didn't work doesn't mean it wasn't the right decision.

B (14:09)

Right.

C (14:09)

And this looked like it was really the wrong decision.

B (14:11)

So who would you have started? Because I don't like. I don't like you started. I don't like the opener games. I don't like those. I'm just not a fan of the opener games. I like a guy who's a starter to get an opportunity to start the game. And then, you know, work is four or five or six innings, if you're lucky enough to get that much out of a starter and have that approach and attack to it and then save a high leverage guy for when it's necessary later in the game if needed. I get everything's, you know, out the window with playoffs, looking back at the Padres series and where they were at and with time and rest and off and yeah, I would start Matthew Boyd again. He started game one. No one had an issue with him starting game one against the Padres. I just, I don't, I don't like the after the fact criticism of, you shouldn't have started Boyd. All right, well, then who do you go with?

C (14:55)

Yeah, he might overcooked it. I do think that Craig Counsel should listen to his own advice a little bit, where the players have been very consistent in the message that he's sent, especially to star players. And it plays into this idea of clutch versus choke. What is clutch? Does clutch exist? That we've been through in various iterations, and I think that we've. It's. It's sort of settled baseball science that if you do believe in clutch, it means a good player being themselves in the most important times and never letting the moment make you into something you're not. Basically, choke exists. Clutch equals absence of choke. If you can be yourself and play to your rate stats and play to your averages in any situation that constitutes clutch, you know, good Is good. And if good can stay good when it matters most, there you go. People don't tend to get better over a large sample size that doesn't bear up. People don't become better in larger moments. And he always says, let the moment come to you. Let the moment come to you. It's one of his mantras. I kind of say the same name. He's been managing hard and you don't want to do that. Just like a player. You can't play baseball harder.

B (16:15)

Correct. So, I mean, he managed well in the Padre series.

C (16:20)

Yeah, I think if you say that, you know, I letting Machado against.

B (16:28)

Yeah, against Shoda. Question that a bit. Sure. But I mean, if you go a three game series and, you know, you end up winning and going through to the divisional series and Yale had one, you know, managerial fart, a brain fart that is maybe actual real farts too, in the dugout. You never know.

C (16:44)

Well, the old school managers do that.

B (16:45)

But, you know, but. But baseball's going to. Baseball too. And yeah, you had a loss and it was an ugly loss. And it's one game and yeah, it's limited now. You can't lose two more, but it's going to happen.

C (16:54)

You can't lose tonight.

B (16:55)

Max Freed gave up seven earned runs and the Yankees got destroyed. They've given up 23 runs in two games. Yes.

C (17:02)

Yeah, that's. That's no fun for. For a lot of people. So.

B (17:06)

But you know who it is fun for, though? Vlad Guerrero. What was going through your mind as you're rounding the bases? Vladi?

C (17:12)

What was going through my mind was how much of a choker Aaron judges. And he choked his ass off once again with the bases loaded.

B (17:20)

So the Yankees, let's go. Okay.

C (17:25)

Was that a bit. So if that's like a wrestling bit, that's awesome after the fact.

B (17:31)

Now, there have been many reports from people around Guerrero that that was just him having fun and trying to tease the Yankees fans and get a rise out of Yankees fans. So they're saying it was a bit. Yes. And he was just poking and trying to have fun. I didn't, I didn't take it that way. I mean, that's just. Again, you can, you know, you won. You. What? That was. That was after game one. So that was a 10 to 1 victory. And now you're up to 23 runs in two games against the Yankees. You can do that. You can do whatever you want, especially after you win. I just don't know how that's fully a joke.

C (18:10)

I. It's pretty intense to be like, you better know him really well. They've, they better be super close because.

B (18:17)

You just, you can't just be familiar with each other and say something like that.

C (18:22)

Yeah. You can't have exchanged jerseys one time or texted a guy one day. Like they, they better be pretty close for him to be. That's like Jimmy Kimmel, Matt Damon level stuff.

B (18:32)

It must be, right? You've got to be that close 100% because you know, guess what? If it's, if it's not, just be ready going to New York for game three.

C (18:42)

But again, it's baseball. You can't play it harder. Which is why.

B (18:46)

No, I mean, I mean him and the fans, because they go ahead. It's going to be non stop.

C (18:51)

Well, he, he's got to know that. He's got to know that. He's got to be inviting it.

B (18:56)

Unless they're really tight and there's something in their relationship between those two teams that we just don't know about being on the outside of it. So I don't know.

C (19:03)

Or he's got a little heel turn thing going and he just likes it.

B (19:08)

But it is funny though, like to read the comments to hear them, but then actually see him saying it with a big smile on his face. So there is some context to actually seeing it.

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C (21:02)

I was looking at Shota Imonaga's pitch percentages just as far as usage goes, his fastball usage was down this year relatively markedly last year. In 2024 he was at 52% fastballs and about 30, 30.6% splitters and he only threw the slider 7.7% of the time.

B (21:32)

That was last year.

C (21:33)

That was 2024.

B (21:34)

Okay, 7.7.

C (21:35)

Yeah. This year he was down to 48.7. Fastball usage velocity dipped a little bit too, from 91.7 to 90.8, so almost a full mile an hour. His splitter usage was up and the Vela was the same at 31.4%. It's that slider usage that's jumped, yeah, 10%.

B (21:57)

That's a lot.

C (21:58)

Yeah, it is.

B (21:58)

That's a big jump.

C (21:59)

It went up from 7.7 in 2024-17. And the velocity also is down there at 80.4 miles per hour. So I'm going to be interested to see whether he's what his plan is going to be against a Brewers team that's going to be prepared, well prepared to face him. So I obviously, because you want fly balls to carry, Milwaukee's going to make a decision on the roof tonight. And what you you definitely want to be back spinning stuff as far as you can off of him. That is the way, the best way to score runs off of him. So what does he have to do? Limit walks? No walks, no extra base runners. The Cubs have done a brilliant job of turning batted balls into outs. Giving up solo homers isn't going to kill you if you're hitting the ball, so just make sure think about it like a windy day. He should always approach it like a windy day at Wrigley. Don't give away baserunners because you don't. Because anybody in this brewers lineup can hit you out and how they're nine. Guy for me keeps getting hits.

B (23:10)

You know, it's interesting looking at. At Shota. He's only. He's made four less starts this year than last year. Just four. And his. His walk numbers actually are. They're less this year, obviously with four less starts, but it was 28 walks last year, 26 walks this year. His ERA plus 137 last year, 103 this year.

C (23:30)

That's a big drop.

B (23:31)

Yeah, the big drop. His. His WHIP is down too from last year to this year.

C (23:35)

I want to mention too a plus stat when you say era.

B (23:38)

Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah.

C (23:39)

Anytime you hear plus, that means it is just like weighted runs created plus 100 is league average in this run environment. Any per. Any number over is percentage. So he was only 3% better than an average pitcher this year by ERA plus.

B (23:58)

Yeah, that's. I mean a big, big drop from 137 to 103. His WHIP is down this year. Again, four. Four less starts, but is on an average basis of hits per nine. He's. He's about the same. It's 7.7 to 7.3 home runs per nine. So his home runs are virtually again four less starts, but his home run numbers are 27 and 31. So yeah, he's giving up more home runs. Luckily, a lot of those home runs large percentage were solo shots this year with the exception of the Machado home run that we saw that in the playoffs was like, oh, there's a. There's a more than a solo shot for you. But still Cubs. Cubs come out of that one with a. With a win. But his numbers aren't all that different despite the four starts.

C (24:44)

Well, he's going to have to have splitter command and slider command.

B (24:48)

It just looks worse this year.

C (24:50)

He wasn't as good. He wasn't. But I still think he's better. He's a. If you had to say right now, this is that. That whole thing a game and whatever you want the stakes to be, you have to choose between Shoda Imanaga and Colin Ray. And Colin Ray. I don't want to lose that game and not have showed him in Aga pitch it. Yeah, he's better.

B (25:15)

I think if you're managing really hard like he talked about with with Craig Counsel, you might. You might fall to the fault side of going with Colin Ray because he's pitched better lately. But Shota is the right choice. That's. That's what a manager should do if you want to manage really hard, though.

C (25:33)

He'S been managing hard. He's. He's been. He's busy back there in the kitchen with the bandana tied around his head.

B (25:41)

Throwing pots and pans at people.

C (25:43)

He's got his. He doesn't even need oven mitts because his hands are so burned and covered in scars. You know, he's pulling out there, throwing things under the salamander, tasting for salt content, you know, pulling tickets down. He's got the whole thing. Just take a breath. Take a breath. Trust your guys.

B (26:04)

Yeah, trust your guys to hit the ball tonight, to pick the ball up, not make any errors. I mean, seeing unearned runs is just, you know, really unusual for this team.

C (26:11)

Just make my experience better than it was on Saturday.

B (26:13)

Yeah. And I'm going to the game tonight.

C (26:15)

So, like, just show up and I think driving from where you are.

B (26:19)

Oh, it's easier.

C (26:20)

It's easier for sure.

B (26:21)

You know, with the exception of whatever parking garage it is right across from Wrigley. When we went and saw the Red Sox when they were in town and we parked right across from Wrigley, I could see into the field from my parking space in the garage. It was 100 bucks to park in there. And it's not. That's not crazy. If you're going down to a cubs game. It's not. It's not. It's not that crazy. So I'll take that convenience of being across the street.

C (26:40)

I pay 100 bucks for it. If I moved all the, like hockey and golf and fishing gear out of our. Because technically we have a three car garage, but it only really fits two cars. I could charge for that spot.

B (26:52)

You should if you want a stranger parking in your garage.

C (26:54)

I don't.

B (26:55)

Or you could even come in, hang.

C (26:58)

Out for a while.

B (26:58)

Yeah. Have a beer with you some way. No. Going back to earlier, talking about watching sporting events alone. The higher stakes. Being alone is better. I'm really. I'm excited this year for the cubs and the prospect of watching world series games with Natalie. Because 2016, I watched every game alone and game I don't remember, but game seven, the morning of game seven, we hosted together.

C (27:27)

We did?

B (27:28)

Yeah.

C (27:29)

Where? In the studio?

B (27:30)

Yeah, we were in studio the morning of game seven. The morning of game seven. I. I stood the entire time because I was just an absolute wreck.

C (27:37)

Yeah.

B (27:37)

I remember when we got we got through the game. I don't know if you remember, but my phone died, like, completely crapped out.

C (27:45)

I don't remember.

B (27:46)

During. During the show.

C (27:47)

I remember Jason crying when Raja Davis hit the home run.

B (27:51)

Oh, we all cried.

C (27:52)

He was literally crying. He was bawling.

B (27:55)

Really?

C (27:55)

Yeah.

B (27:56)

So, yeah, Game seven, I'm on the floor, and I'm in front of the tv. I didn't even sit in the furniture, and I was. You know, I had my scorebook, and I was alone for every game. And so I'm excited to be able to watch the. If they can make it that far. To watch games with Natalie and with Hank and with Jackie. I mean, they were just too, too little at that point to stay up late, watch games, even care about baseball games. But I want to watch games with my family this year, and I'm hoping that to be able to get that opportunity.

C (28:21)

You know what's funny is that Beth asked Jason. She said, jason, are you a Sox fan or a Cub fan now? And he said, I'm definitely a Cub fan. And, you know, I grew up a White Sox fan.

B (28:32)

White Sox fan? Yeah.

C (28:33)

Hardcore.

B (28:34)

Yeah. 05 was a special thing for you.

C (28:36)

Yeah. I cried when they won the World Series. I really put it.

B (28:39)

Peed your pants?

C (28:40)

Well, probably give me a few more hours, for sure. I would have peed everybody's pants.

B (28:46)

He did pee my pants, too. That was weird. I remember just like, why are my legs wet? Like, yeah, I peed your pants.

C (28:51)

I'm peeing everybody's pants. So he's like, no. And it was a conscious thing, too. And so Beth was like, wow, just because of 2016 and all that, and they're being good when you were young? He goes, nope. He said, I can't stand the way Jerry Reinsdorf has run the White Sox. Oh, wow. I'm like, I didn't know this was this conscious a decision.

B (29:12)

Yeah.

C (29:12)

And he said, yeah. He said, after the La Russa thing, I was done.

B (29:15)

Oh, and he hired LaRussa. Yeah.

C (29:17)

He said, that's not a serious good call. He said that it's not a serious organization. He said the moment the La Russa thing happened, he was just like, I'm out.

B (29:25)

They don't want to win.

C (29:25)

Right, right. He said, that's. It's not worth my time. That's when I made that call.

B (29:29)

Good for him.

C (29:30)

Like, damn. Okay. I respect that.

B (29:33)

It's been funny, too. My youngest stepson, Lucas, where I was watching Mariners, Yankees last night, Tigers. And he. The family room, and he was like, what Is this like, baseball? He's like, is this playoffs, too? I said, yeah. He goes, what does this go to? Like, do they go to the World Series? And I'm like, well, this is like, the Cubs, they got to win. And Natalie's like, there's, you know, final eight teams, and they got to win. They'll advance the next round before the World Series. So, I mean, I'm just. I'm looking forward to, you know, having all four boys and Natalie and watching a Cubs World Series game with. I'm not going to go out and wouldn't want to watch it with friends or, you know, lunatic Cub fans, but at home with the family would be a nice way to do it. Yeah. So we're going tonight. We got tickets the other day, and we'll be up in. In Milwaukee for a game that's hopefully competitive.

C (30:15)

All right. So we were sitting at that bar as the Mark Sanchez news was breaking, too, and I'm like, whoa, what he got. He's getting arrested.

B (30:24)

So quick timeline.

C (30:26)

Yeah.

B (30:26)

Story comes out. Mark Sanchez stabbed in Indianapolis. That's. That's what the story was. It's like, holy shit, what happened to Mark Sanchez?

C (30:33)

Oh, my goodness. I hope he's okay.

B (30:35)

Like, stabbed in the chest. Like, okay.

C (30:37)

Wow. Yeah. In critical cond. And there was a guy sitting next to us in the bar, and I heard him talking to his girlfriend or wife, whatever it was, and I interrupted him. I said, I am sorry for eavesdropping, but did you say Sanchez was at fault? And this is before the news is coming out? And he said, look, he said, this is the rumor mill. He said, but I have a friend, one of my best friends, lives in Indianapolis, said he's hearing that Sanchez was the instigator, and the guy was defending himself. And I said, oh, really?

B (31:17)

Okay.

C (31:17)

And he's like. Again, he goes, this is just a guy. I guess I'm just hearing this from a guy who I know in Indianapolis who says, that's what people are saying, and it turned out to be correct.

B (31:27)

Yep.

C (31:28)

And I like, what the hell, man? First of all, I'll just say, Mark Sanchez when he was a bear, and the few times he made himself available to talk, we all said, like, oh, this is a broadcaster.

B (31:43)

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

C (31:44)

We said, absolutely. This guy is smart, and he knows how to speak in paragraphs and in sentences. When you heard him explain things, it was more broadcaster even than coachy. Like, he just sounded great.

B (31:58)

Yeah. He finally found his niche in the NFL.

C (32:01)

The other thing I loved about it was The Butt Fumble was in my timeline again. And every time I see it, I laugh out loud. The Butt Fumble is one of the funniest things humanly possible. Yeah, it's just hilarious. And it will always be hilarious. And it brought the, like, here, Sanchez did something more embarrassing than this. And there I am giggling on the elevator as I'm watching it again. So I. I didn't. I went into this thinking, somehow some of this information's wrong or it's gonna get cleared up. But it's not like something that happened with ICE that, you know, they're just lying about it completely. You know, that the account. That's the official account, you know, is just. But I thought that everybody involved did a pretty good job with the exception of a couple people in Indiana politics who really jumped this one.

B (32:53)

Well, you have Indiana Governor Mike Braun, and he takes to X right away. I've been. City leaders must do their jobs and hold criminals accountable. When Indianapolis headlines national news for a lack of public safety, it hurts our city and our state. Hoosiers deserve better. Here's the part praying for a full recovery for Mark Sanchez. Of course, we all are. We don't want anything bad to happen.

C (33:15)

He's out of the hospital, but he's.

B (33:17)

Praying for a full recovery for Mark Sanchez based on him being attacked. And then Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwourth says Indianapolis is sliding into lawlessness.

C (33:29)

Because of.

B (33:29)

Local leaders refused to rounding third.

C (33:31)

And sliding into lawlessness.

B (33:34)

Not Keith.

C (33:35)

Lawlessness.

B (33:35)

No, not Keith Lawless.

C (33:37)

No, you don't want to. Yeah, you slide into his office there.

B (33:41)

Local leaders refuse to prosecute criminals and protect citizens. So local leaders refuse.

C (33:46)

Oh, I'm not protecting citizens and I'm.

B (33:48)

Not prosecuting criminals either.

C (33:49)

Did you swear an oath? Yeah, but I don't care. I'm not protecting anybody because I don't want to listen.

B (33:54)

Our law enforcement officers want to do their jobs, but they're being handcuffed by soft on crime politicians who value ideology over safety. It's time for the state of Indiana to step in.

C (34:05)

Listen, how long did you have that in your draft?

B (34:07)

We must restore law and order in our Capitol. The General assembly should act in this session to give the governor and attorney. Attorney general clear authority to enforce the law and prosecute offenders when local officials won't. Indiana deserves safe streets and leadership with the courage to deliver it. I'm Micah Beckworth and I approve this message.

C (34:28)

What the hell, man? Chill out.

B (34:30)

Find out the.

C (34:31)

The facts.

B (34:33)

So now you find out that a 38. 38 year old former NFL quarterback attacked was the aggressor against a 69 year old guy doing his fucking job.

C (34:44)

Not just that. This is the weirdest damn thing. So apparently Mark Sanchez was doing a drunken. Mark Sanchez was doing sprints in the loading dock of the hotel.

B (35:00)

Now granted, it's after midnight and he's drunk.

C (35:03)

Let it all hang out. Yeah, a 69 year old truck driver parked his truck and his job was to remove the cooking oil. Right.

B (35:14)

So you go restaurant to restaurant, that's your gig. And you collect used cooking oil.

C (35:18)

Right. And that was his job. And then Sanchez started screaming at the guy that you're not allowed to park there. You're in my way for my sprints or whatever it was. And this is all on footage. This is all on tape. This guy's 69 years old. He's backing away from Sanchez, running away from him. This got out down an alley. Sanchez throws him into a wall. They start recording each other with cell phones. The man tries to pepper spray Sanchez, but he just like wipes his eyes. Then he pulls a knife. But Sanchez had said, you can't be in the loading dock. And then he tried to get into the truck.

B (36:04)

He said he talked to the hotel manager and the hotel manager told Mark Sanchez to tell this guy, you can't be parked right here.

C (36:11)

To do his job.

B (36:12)

Correct.

C (36:13)

And then he got into the truck and the guy said, well, you can't get into my truck ever.

B (36:18)

Like, there's no way he's gonna move it. Was he gonna move the truck to continue his sprints?

C (36:24)

I don't know. I just know if right now, as FOX is meeting and they're trying to figure out what to do, I think at the moment, obviously you have to put him on some kind of leave if you want to keep him. And this is what it comes down to if you're looking to get out from under a salary number, if you were looking for a reason to move him, obviously you fire him. And that's how these things all come down. If it's convenient, you use this, say, oh, good, okay, this landed right in our lap. Perfect opportunity to move on.

B (37:03)

Let him go.

C (37:03)

Got somebody waiting in the wings, we'll bring him in. If you want to keep him and it's really important to you to keep him, you say he's going to check himself in to a residential facility for his alcohol abuse and, or emotional, mental.

B (37:23)

Whatever he needs.

C (37:23)

Yeah, right. You find, you find a way to say, you know, it's that we know that this is a medical issue.

B (37:29)

And while we don't condone violence of any kind. We still support Mark Sanchez, the person, and we hope he gets healthy and happy and we'll revisit where this goes.

C (37:39)

In our relationship down the road right now. Understand, too, that if you are going to be one of this guy's, however many lawyers he's retained, there's a civil judgment here. A massive, massive civil judgment. And then obviously, the deeper pockets are Fox itself. And did they. Was it part of their protocol that he's allowed to go drinking the night before a game? I don't think that they're going to be found in any way liable, no, but obviously lawyers are going to say, you know, was. Did Fox know about this kind of behavior? Did they turn their, you know, turn a blind eye to this? Is, is this drinking the night before? Drinking like this the night before a game? Was this regular behavior?

B (38:21)

Well, let me ask. Or for other people, Counselor, what if. What if there was a, like a traditional thing where, like, broadcasts, teams and people, they go out the night before? What, what if they're at a dinner and the drinking started at. At a work dinner?

C (38:37)

I don't think that. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know if you could possibly find an employer responsible. Okay. Because otherwise employers would say, you are never allowed to go to dinner on the road. You know, you can't.

B (38:51)

Well, you can go to dinner. You just don't drink, don't get hammered. Well, obviously, you're broadcasting a fucking game the next day.

C (38:56)

Obviously, it's enough to fire him. I mean, we all have stuff in our contracts it says when you are on the road in a work capacity, there are certain expectations of behavior. Well, now, obviously, yes, you know, though.

B (39:08)

There are, There are laws where, where bar and bar owners are held accountable.

C (39:12)

Dram shop laws.

B (39:13)

Yeah. For someone who is overserved.

C (39:16)

But that, but there are caps on that. Most states have a cap.

B (39:22)

Well, if you're talking about the lawless state of Indiana.

C (39:24)

Oh, that's right, the wild west of Indiana. Not just Indiana, Indianapolis specifically. Remember, it's not all of Indiana. It's just the evildoers in the cities. Crime, crime.

B (39:36)

And then it was interesting, Michael, Anytime.

C (39:39)

You hear crime, that means black people. Just so you know, anytime you hear crime, anytime you hear, we're gonna get this crime, it means people of color.

B (39:47)

Michael Paul Hart, Republican leader on the Indianapolis City Council. He said, still a lot unknown, but this fits a pattern. We can't ignore another violent assault in Indianapolis, and this one makes headlines because of who. Who it Happened to thousands of aggravated assaults this year, most ignored or underreported. Indy. It deserves honesty and safety.

C (40:06)

I agree, it does deserve a great deal of honesty. But Prosecutor Ryan, be honest about the code words that you're using in here and all the dog whistles that you're using.

B (40:15)

Prosecutor Ryan Mears, who is working this case, and he hasn't tweeted in three years, he said the governor attempted to exploit senseless violence for political gain without knowing any facts, which fits the truth. Didn't fit his narrative, and so he deleted his tweet. Real leadership requires a basic understanding of facts and a desire to do more than just blame others. And that could be targeted at a many number of people.

C (40:41)

I'm just telling you, they just jumped the gun and ran immediately to whatever playbook they could find to curry favor with the current way the winds are blowing. Speaking of which, is everybody people marching outside our building right now? I did notice soldiers here.

B (40:59)

Oh, were there?

C (41:00)

No, they're supposed to be that all of these people who would otherwise be going about their business as teachers and doctors.

B (41:09)

Well, lots of. Lots of bad stuff happened in the city over the weekend at the ICE facility. And was it Bridgeview?

C (41:15)

There's all kinds of. Yeah, but that's why they're here. Is really they.

B (41:18)

That.

C (41:19)

That they're being sent. These people are being activated and taken away from their families and coming in so they can protect those people from all the people just being silly and making fun of them because God forbid.

B (41:30)

Yeah. And by the way, according to the Indianapolis Star, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police data in the first six months of 2025 shows a significant dip in year to date deaths and violent crimes.

C (41:41)

Yes. Sort of like the same.

B (41:43)

Even though it's the lawless west. Have you seen anything coming out of Portland, Oregon? I saw a guy posted a video and he was like, he's got the video on himself first. And he's like, all right, I'm here in the wild streets of Portland, Oregon.

C (41:55)

Oh, with a guy dressed in.

B (41:57)

No, it was a coffee shop. And probably 75 people in line around the building to get matcha. He's like, yes, this is the lawlessness.

C (42:05)

Of the streets of Illinois. I saw the quote, unquote violent protests outside of the ICE headquarters, and there were people in mascot costumes. And it's like, this is the war zone. War torn.

B (42:22)

Portland, Oregon.

C (42:23)

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B (44:00)

So you text me over the weekend about a candy bar. It was one that I'm very familiar with. I've seen it hundreds of times in the checkout at Mariano's. I've never purchased one. Was it opposed to eating one? I just never did. It was never on my candy bar radar.

C (44:17)

I hadn't either. And I wanted to go for ice cream after dinner because I've been when you're visiting your kid, I wanted to stay out with them.

B (44:29)

Yeah.

C (44:29)

So he and a friend the two of them wanted. Beth was tired. She's like, you know what? I'm going to bail. I'm going to go back to the hotel. Are you sitting out? And I said I'll stay out. I'll go to one more place. So Jason and his friend, she gets this devilish smile on her face. Like, whispers something to Jason. He's like, okay, that's where we'll go. So we end up at this place called Boot Scoot, which was a country bar.

B (44:54)

Sounds like a country bar.

C (44:55)

It was a country bar. And there's a mechanical bull.

B (44:59)

Okay.

C (44:59)

And you ride it. They tried to make me ride it.

B (45:02)

Okay.

C (45:03)

And I.

B (45:04)

You didn't do it.

C (45:04)

Absolutely not.

B (45:06)

His video would have been posted.

C (45:07)

I am absolutely. Of course, there's no way I'm riding a mechanical bull. So I didn't.

B (45:13)

Just a regular bull.

C (45:14)

Bring a real bull.

B (45:15)

Hell, yeah.

C (45:16)

No. I don't do mechanical. I only do real Bronx.

B (45:20)

I mean, that's how we used to do it. Terry would fight bears. You would ride bulls?

C (45:23)

No, I'd ride Terry. Hey, buddy.

B (45:27)

You would ride Will Perdue. Come here, Will. Sit down.

C (45:32)

So I'm like, all right. I wanted to get ice cream. And then it was a long walk to. So forget it. And then I run into, you know, in New Orleans, every corner has got a thing that's open 247 that has everything.

B (45:45)

Okay.

C (45:46)

They just.

B (45:47)

I don't know. I've never been.

C (45:48)

Yeah, it's not like bodegas, but it's like a bodegas. I said louder and brighter and drinky. We were all 24.

B (45:56)

Yeah.

C (45:56)

Way drink here. All 24 seven. So, like, all right, get a couple candy bars. And I grabbed a king size. I grabbed a king size candy Reese's Fast Break.

B (46:07)

Fast break. Yes.

C (46:08)

I've seen these before. And what struck me was how heavy it was.

B (46:11)

Yes.

C (46:15)

It's like a truncheon. It's like something you can beat somebody up with.

B (46:19)

It's pretty solid. Yes.

C (46:20)

The king size. It's. I don't know what. Could you see what it weighs? How many ounces is a. Because it felt enormous. And I'm like, all right, we'll try it. And I read the ingredients, and I'm walking, and I mean while I'm walking. And with every bite, I'm mad at myself for not having found this sooner.

B (46:42)

The king size Reese's Fast Break Candy bar weighs 3.52 ounces.

C (46:47)

No, it's more than that.

B (46:48)

It's what it says.

C (46:48)

It's got to be more than that.

B (46:50)

All right, well, then the interwebs are lying.

C (46:52)

It's gotta be. It's gotta be. Or I got a specially dense one. And what it is is essentially a Reese's peanut butter cup wrapped around the three musketeers.

B (47:03)

Yeah. So it's. It's. It's peanut butter in the center, there's a layer of chewy nougat wrapped all around in milk chocolate, right?

C (47:09)

Yes. But there's a lot. There's like a whole layer of peanut butter at the bottom. And every it. I'm like, oh, my God, is this. This, like, where did I find this? I got. And I looked to make sure I knew on the wrapper. Like, I. This. I. I have to remember this. And now I'm getting like bader Meinhof effect when I'm. I'm seeing it now at grocery stores, but I didn't used to see it. I wasn't paying attention. Now I wait, do they have one? Do they have a Reese's Fast?

B (47:37)

All right, so you. You truly loved it.

C (47:39)

Oh, yeah. And so I texted you.

B (47:40)

You texted me. And I was happy to go to Mariano's to do some shopping. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna get one. At the checkout. I get one. Load my car. Like, my car ball my groceries. I sit down, I unwrap this thing, I start eating.

C (47:54)

And it.

B (47:55)

I'm just gonna tell you it was a lot because it was a king size bar. It was a lot.

C (47:58)

It's a meal.

B (47:59)

And I really. I really like Reese's peanut butter cups because it's just. It's the. I think there's an appropriate amount of peanut butter and the chocolate. The peanut butter ratio is delicious. I think the Reese's are really good.

C (48:12)

I. I think the mini Reese's are the best ones. Have the best ratio.

B (48:17)

Okay. I like just a regular Reese's peanut butter cups. This had like. I felt like I had. This had a mouthful of peanut butter and it was a lot. Now I really enjoyed the addition of the chewy nougat. That's a really. I'm a big fan of candy bars with nougat, but nobody knows what nougat is. No, it's just. I have no idea. It's a thing.

C (48:37)

Yeah.

B (48:37)

But for me, it was slightly. Maybe. Maybe not the king size bar. I gotta. I gotta take one step down. No, that's because the king size bar might have been too much for me. It was just. It was.

C (48:48)

I did the king size bar and two Twixes. So four.

B (48:53)

So four Twix bars?

C (48:54)

Four total Twix? Yeah. Two full size.

B (48:58)

So you have four Twix bars and a fast break king size candy bar at the same consuming period? Yes, like one after the other, same sitting. What went first?

C (49:07)

I. Well, you know me. And I got kind of OCD about it.

B (49:10)

Oh, boy.

C (49:11)

And I did One of the four Twix in two bites and then I had a couple bites of the fast.

B (49:18)

So you went back and forth?

C (49:19)

Yeah.

B (49:19)

Okay.

C (49:19)

You have, you have to get everything just right.

B (49:21)

Okay.

C (49:21)

So time it all out.

B (49:23)

I'm gonna give it another try and get a small like a regular size bar. Because the king size was just. It was just too much for me.

C (49:29)

For me at that time, it was just right with the two Twixes.

B (49:34)

Now I had done that on an empty stomach. I hadn't eaten yet yesterday at that point when I had the fast. So maybe if I had a meal and maybe if I was even around drinking, I might be more in consuming more food.

C (49:46)

But yes, I wasn't drinking. Yeah, but I was.

B (49:51)

Now if I was like, if I was out drinking and I got a fast bread, that would have been nothing.

C (49:55)

No, I had other things besides.

B (49:59)

Okay. Oh, okay. So. All right.

C (50:02)

So does that need to be said at that time? But, but we had a wonderful meal.

B (50:05)

So I'd like you to try it again. Okay. Without anything.

C (50:08)

No. And maybe. I don't know. We'll see.

B (50:10)

All right, well, I'm going to try it again, but I'm not going to do the king size bar. That was. It was too much. It was delicious, but just too much.

C (50:17)

If you are waiting for your Sunday to start betting, you're missing half the fun and half the money because college football is already cooking. Roll damn tide, roll damn time.

B (50:26)

They were supposed to win that game. So fine.

C (50:29)

And. But there, see, there's thing called a point spread. And at the very end of the game they got enough points to put them over.

B (50:36)

Yeah, I know how it is.

C (50:37)

The number that I had told people was my DBU pick for Friday.

B (50:42)

That's a real. That's a real defense right there too.

C (50:45)

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B (51:36)

It certainly is better. And go to my bookie, create your account, get your first deposit in, start playing along, follow our picks. I'm doing really good. I lost my last one. My Friday pick didn't hit because of the late touchdown by. By the Vikings, you know, and once Carson Wentz, he left the game, goes into the locker room.

C (51:56)

He loves getting hit.

B (51:58)

And I was like, all right, this is great. Now they got some guy named Brosmer or Brosner. Pierce Bronson, he's going to rookie. Yeah, he's going to start. So here he's going to play. And I'm like, all right, this is great. This feeds right into the under. They're not going to. They're not going to score anymore, you know, and then it just.

C (52:16)

It all went to hell. How about some new DBU picks?

B (52:20)

Yeah, I need to get back on the winning track.

C (52:21)

They're presented by my bookie. Want me to start?

B (52:26)

No, I'll start. Let me start. We're looking at Monday Night Football tonight, the end of week five here, and I'm going to give you. I'm going to. You know, I always take the. I always look at a point spread and the over under. So I'm going to give you Jacksonville plus three and a half. They're at home, Kansas city. Take Jacksonville plus three and a half and the over of 45 and a half.

C (52:47)

Okay. Now, mine doesn't have great odds on it, but if you want to do this as part of a parlay, I think it's interesting. Jacksonville's defense is really good.

B (52:56)

It is good.

C (52:56)

And I believe they're.

B (52:57)

They're three and one right now, and.

C (52:58)

I think they're leading the league in quarterback rating against right now.

B (53:04)

That's a good stat to have the NFL.

C (53:06)

They're also playing more zone than man, and I think they're going to have to mix that up a little bit because if you come out in the same zone against Mahomes and his crew, that can. They sort of can operate on that mental wavelength where guys keep finding those same little spots in the zone. They're going to have to place some man in there. And when they do, my guess is Mahomes is going to use his feet. And when I saw the over under on Patrick Mahomes rushing yards at 22.5, I thought that I would take the over on that one. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to rush for more than 22 and a half yards in this game. Okay, so I would put that in. I don't know that that's going to be money maker for you outright, but I would, I might add that to a parlay if you are so inclined. Patrick Mahomes over 22.5 rushing yards tonight. So lock in your picks now with my bookie Bet on anything, anywhere, anytime.

B (54:14)

And I like that we're we're ending on NFL, NFL Notes, NFL Talk because we have more NFL to get into on forward progress today. Remember, go to our YouTube channel, subscribe to Dan Bernstein Unfiltered and then also subscribe to forward progress, two separate YouTube channels. Get both, then click the little bell icon on both channels so you have alerts coming to you. So that way you know, when we're live, you never know. There could be a special DBU live, which we did a couple weekends ago. And of course when we go live on after Bears post games, you want to get alerted to it that we're getting ready to start because we could start early. But we don't have another post game show until Monday Night Football next week. So we have Bears commanders to look forward to to talk about this week and then a post game show to get ready for a week from tonight.

C (54:58)

And I'm looking forward to forward progress. I think now that we've got a larger sample of games, we can look at the Bears four opponents, the Vik, the Lions, the Cowboys and the Raiders, and maybe try to draw some illogical conclusions to what it says about the Bears based on not just the outcomes but how we've seen them play against these teams. That's going to be forward progress today and that has been dbu. Dan Bernstein, Unfiltered brought to you in partnership with my bookie Dan Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on 312Sports.