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Dan Bernstein Unfiltered
George McCaskey thinks the Chicago Bears fans would be ok with Hammond, Indiana
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Dan Bernstein
Dan Bernstein, unfiltered unfiltered on 312. Sports DBU on 3. 1, 2. And we are brought to you in partnership with my bookie and also by our friends at Giordano's Pizza. The Bears saga is continuing, and I think we learned some things yesterday from what George McCaskey had to say. And it's not necessarily by his exact words. It's by what is not happening that tells us more, I think, than what is happening, especially when we are looking at the entire body of commentary that's coming from everybody involved. As we know, the governor's office, the governor has basically said as of last week, it's in the hands of the legislature. Essentially, the marching orders are there. It is clear what the governor's office wants and what they've been very clear about what they have told the Bears they would provide as far as infrastructure and all else but the pilot program, the mega project bill, to allow the Bears what they call tax certainty, which is a word that's doing a lot of work. It's not just certainty, it's certainty of lower taxes than they would otherwise pay, which is not uncommon for large projects. It isn't out of the realm of the ask for the Bears to have a reasonable expectation for budgeting what they're going to owe in taxes and being able to negotiate that with Arlington Heights, that is working its way through the legislature with the usual amount of Springfield horse trading being done at this point. And there has been the public perception of a stalemate of everything sort of being stalled out. When will the Bears decide? Here's this deal, here's that deal, and it's coming down to the wire. Well, these are Kevin Warren games, and he was able to coach up George McCaskey, and we're gonna hear from him in, you know, in his own words on forward progress coming up. But I do think it's important to realize when you pull back and you look at what's happening, the Bears have consistently moved the end line. There have been all of these soft deadlines of when shovels should be in the ground. And it's been 2025 and 2026. And then he's. Now Kevin Warren says, well, late spring, early is when we're going to know. Okay, well, what's interesting to me, the Hammond deal isn't changing. The Hammond deal's pretty much set outside of all of the uncertainties environmentally. And what else? What other shoes may drop there as far as the actual quality of the land. What is going to have to be done to prepare them for doing the work. They're still relatively far away when it comes to the stages they have to go through of actually breaking ground there in Arlington Heights. They could do that tomorrow. They have owned that land. There was a sports arena structure on that land. The infrastructure planning is all ready to be done. They haven't done that in Hammond. When it comes to transportation, when it comes to parking and a lot of this infrastructure stuff that, that would still need to be done, as well as figuring out the quality of the soil, where they are and what other environmental restrictions there might be. At the moment, they're saying they're good to go, but those things can all can bog down after you break ground, that there are things you might not even know until you're. You're underneath the soil and you say, oh, well, this is, you know, we've tested this and this isn't what we thought. And the fact that they haven't done anything yet, the fact that the deadlines keep moving and just happen to sync up with what the members of the Illinois Legislature have been saying about when they think that mega projects bill negotiation could conclude and when it would be ready for ratification, I don't think it's coincidence that the timing works out nicely. And we heard yesterday of George McCaskey talking up the. Oh, I, I think we could move the team to Hammond and nobody would care. And, you know, all this stuff that we've said regarding the Giants and the jets and teams that play outside of their. Their regular nominal home, I don't necessarily believe him 100%. I think Kevin's got him, like I say, ready to go on message, coached up to try to apply whatever pressure they feel they can, whatever leverage they feel they still have. They're trying to squeeze every last drop out of it at this point, but as long as they keep holding the door open for the Illinois and Arlington Heights process to work itself out, that tells you what, what their first choice is. And it makes it pretty clear they could say today, yeah, that's it. We're tired of waiting. We're going to Hammond. They're giving us everything. We get all these breaks, you'll get over it. We don't care. We're not worried about the legacy of being the team that took the Bears out of Illinois. I also think if J.B. pritzker and the governor's office were more concerned about that being real, he would be more involved at this point. I think the fact that he has removed himself and has some trusted proxies within the legislature moving the ball forward. That tells me that there is some confidence there. Because the last thing that J.B. pritzker wants if he's aspiring to higher office is the optics in a campaign ad of saying this man lost the Bears because of Illinois's onerous policies that drove the great Chicago Bears out of his state. He's completely aware of what that ad would look like and he has since said, you know what we've done, we can do. We continue to meet. He's got his people meeting with the Bears people. And then if you really look at what's being said, listen to Cam Buckner, who's extremely involved in this, that he's a representative who serves on important committees. Cam Buckner told NBC just a couple of days ago lawmakers are, quote, closer than people realize to reaching a deal. Here's the rest of his comment. We've been in constant conversation with the Bears. I think I had half a dozen conversations with them last week alone. We understand they want this done as quickly as possible and we respect that. I don't think any of the issues are insurmountable. They have to be dealt with directly because this is a statewide mega projects bill which will have statewide implications. And he said there's been questions about whether or not this can be used for places such as data centers and battery farms. So I think all those things are very cogent, very logical questions for people to ask ways we are trying to find solutions to all of them. Yeah, it's a big bill. But if the Bears were not in conversation with the Illinois Legislature, then there would be something else going on and the Bears would already have taken the Hammond deal.
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Cody Westerlund
Right. But there, there isn't a deal in place in either, either location though there
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Dan Bernstein
is a structured deal that will be in place the moment they can finish up the horse trading though. There is, there is some deal.
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Cody Westerlund
Right. But, but I'm saying like as this moment, like we can say the haven't made a decision. Well, there's no decision to be made because there's no deal in Hammond. There's no deal in Arlington Heights. So it's not like they're withholding a decision because there's no decision to make without a deal in place.
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Dan Bernstein
Just no. But as, as they keep moving the back end deadline to allow everything to all the because the gears have to grind here in the state legislature. This is the horse trading phase. This is the, this is the beak wedding phase and the Bears may have to negotiate their Soldier Field exit in way that takes care of some of these Chicago interests, and they know it there. I don't think there has been any sort of defiance in that understanding based on what I know of the talk so far. So I. Talk is cheap at this point. Public talk is cheap. And I think what really matters is the fact that all of this is ongoing. And if the Bears were not prioritizing Arlington Heights, I think it would be pretty obvious right now, because the Arlington Heights mayor, Tenalia and everybody else would be like, I don't know. We haven't heard from the Bears. We haven't heard from the Bears. Ken Buckner would not be saying that we are closer than people realize to reaching a deal if there were no negotiations, conversations that were.
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Cody Westerlund
That are ongoing and still happening.
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Dan Bernstein
Right?
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, of course. Yeah, I agree with that. But I also think, you know, we talked about this and we've heard about this a lot. This tax certainty, these tax breaks, guaranteed tax breaks. I don't see that as being. That's good business for the Bears. I mean, the Bears need to have some type of guarantees moving forward, because you can't have a tax bill that's one amount one year, and then a tax bill that's different the next year. They do need some guarantees. I don't see why that's.
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Dan Bernstein
That's called being a homeowner. Yeah, that's just for the rest of us to deal with.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, I know, but I mean, that. That's. That's a fair thing for them to want to work through, because you can't look ahead without any idea of what you could be paying in taxes from year to year. I don't think. I don't think Illinois or any state does that to any other business. Why would the Bears be any different?
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, I'm not saying it's not. And that's why it's not called the Bears stadium deal. It's called the mega projects deal. And if, in fact, Look, I think that's a fair point, too, because we know that nobody wants data centers, nobody wants battery farms. The more that we're learning about the. The what happens to local power costs and water usage and everything else with data centers, if, in fact there is an effect there, that, that. That shouldn't be a. Any kind of like Trojan horse just for a data farm to say, oh, look, the Bears got this deal. Now we can just slide right in
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Cody Westerlund
and get the same thing right in
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Dan Bernstein
a way that a community doesn't necessarily want for all of the drainage on community resources that these other large projects May be. So all of this is understandable. All of this is workable. My God, the Bears have. Have hired enough vice presidents and enough people in their massive stadium deal bureaucracy to work some of this through.
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Cody Westerlund
You know, you made a comment earlier about. About not fully believing George McCaskey when he said that, you know, Bears fans will adjust to whatever, go wherever, and talked about the. The jets and the Giants. He even made reference to the Bears moving to Wrigley. You know, from Wrigley Field to Soldier Field. And then when they were down in Champagne, when there was the renovations at the spaceship on the lakefront was happening, that Bears fans dealt with it and it was fine. You said you didn't fully believe him. Why don't you believe that?
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Dan Bernstein
Because I.
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Cody Westerlund
Or what don't you believe?
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Dan Bernstein
I don't believe that they would feel as casually cool with doing it as he made it sound. I think it would be. I think there's an understanding on the part of the McCaskey family that, well, eventually people would be forced to get over it. They would have no choice and they would grumble about it and they. And ultimately they would get over it. I do think that there is a powerful concern about their ultimate legacy and what they would be leaving behind when. When everyone, you know, when. When they're gone, when they're not owners anymore or when the great grandkids are owners. They would much prefer to have the Arlington Heights facility that George Hallis envisioned in 1975. I'm not.
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Cody Westerlund
I'm not going to say that you're wrong or disagree with you, but I also don't think George is that slick. I think George is just a regular guy that happens to own a football team and is pretty honest. And I think those were his genuine feelings. I don't see George being that good of a salesperson. I haven't seen that in his everyday interactions with Bears fans. When he comes across people, he just doesn't seem that slick or that much of a salesperson.
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Dan Bernstein
I think he's trading on that a little bit. I think he knows that's how he's viewed, and I think that's got a little bit more value. And at this point, it's been. It's been. Kevin Warren is an optics guy. He is a bad optics, though, and he's. I'm not saying he's good at it. Yeah, not saying he's done well, but that. That's why this. This smacks to me of just maintaining whatever leverage there may be at the end. And I. And I I don't even think the Bears have managed their leverage all that well at this point.
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Cody Westerlund
No, they haven't.
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Dan Bernstein
I really don't. And. And this may be the. The end game here to just try to push it through. But when they say for Kevin Warren to. For this all to happen with Warren saying, well, late spring, early summer, when you look at when the legislature is supposed to recess, and that's at the end of May, you know, in. It sounds like that this is. This times up coincidentally, perfectly for everything to happen for their preferred destination on the land that they own. And hearing whispers from Hammond as well. I think they know that. I think they know with every day that goes by and the Bears don't take that deal, that deal set that. Here it is. That deal's not changing here. We're covering this. We're covering this. We'll figure all this out. Here it is. And with every day that goes by that the Bears don't take it is another indication that they are providing Springfield with ample time to grind through the gears and just let. Let all of that machinery do the work that it has to do for their preferred destination. That's my read on it. That has been my consistent read on it. I think we would be hearing some different rhetoric and the fact that. That Pritzker felt confident ending essentially his office's portion of the involvement and say, all right, we've said what we've had to say. We know what marching orders we've given our people here. And then when he felt comfortable passing that off to the next phase, I took as a positive sign for the movement for the Arlington Heights deal, not a negative one.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, no, I agree with that. One thing I will disagree with you on is the fact of his aspirations. If he wants a more significant, higher, greater office within. Within this country, I would hope that he is not afraid of this bear situation impacting that kind of campaign or using that against him in his campaign. And I hope his people are advising him too, because if I'm looking to vote for someone in a Bears and an NFL, a football stadium issue certainly wouldn't. Wouldn't detract me from supporting someone because they couldn't get a deal done with football.
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Dan Bernstein
He has to be aware of the larger picture. And that's what Indiana is doing. And I think that's what Mike Braun is doing is saying, well, your. Your onerous blue state policies and all of your red tape are going to. We're what they were. They referred to as business friendly.
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Cody Westerlund
Right.
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Dan Bernstein
Which is.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Which is Another way of saying we don't care about the taxpayers.
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Cody Westerlund
Right.
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Dan Bernstein
That we'll.
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Cody Westerlund
We'll.
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Dan Bernstein
We don't care about our schools or our roads or we'll stick them with
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Cody Westerlund
the bills that come out of this. Right.
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Dan Bernstein
They're too stupid to know. They'll vote against their own interests. That we, We. We don't worry about that here because we're. We're business friendly. And then. And then saying after the fact, well, that's an example of his failed policies. And when the Chicago. Because that's just. That's red meat for an ad. That is absolute red meat.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah. And I guess people are stupid enough to fall for those type of things.
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Dan Bernstein
Of course. Of course. They say. Well, they left the straight. The grand Chicago, and you'll see pictures of Red Grange and Gail Sayers and Dick Butkus. And they'll show Dick Butkus with steam coming out of his.
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Cody Westerlund
In a Peyton jersey, crying.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, of course, if J.B. pritzker couldn't keep the Bears in Chicago, how could he run the country?
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, I guess I just. My. My thinking is there are greater things to be concerned about, and that certainly isn't one of them.
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Dan Bernstein
Of course there are.
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Cody Westerlund
Scheme of life. And where.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm not saying it is.
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Cody Westerlund
I know, I know. I know you're not.
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Dan Bernstein
You can write ads.
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Cody Westerlund
Yes, I know you can.
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Dan Bernstein
You can. You can. You can absolutely write.
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Cody Westerlund
I certainly learned that people are dumb enough to.
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Dan Bernstein
To pretty much anything that's too easy. Conflating football with politics and all of this. It just. And you know how they'll do it? They'll Photoshop and they'll make him look enormous. You know, they'll make him look fatter than he is and more jewy than he is. They'll make his nose big. That. That's what happens in these ads. And then they'll say big, fat J.B. pritzker, who has had his bad policies, and Dick Butkus and Brian Erlacher left.
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Cody Westerlund
They put his head on Andrew Billings
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Dan Bernstein
body actually in uniform.
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Cody Westerlund
In uniform.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. It'd be the big, big, big bill.
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Cody Westerlund
Why are his arms black? Oh, don't worry about that.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, that's what happens. See? And if you elect JB Pritzker, he'll turn your arms black and make you fat too.
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Cody Westerlund
He'll get all the time, all of his campaign promises.
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Dan Bernstein
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Cody Westerlund
I went through last night at home and our contest of our brackets at home, our home challenge. Me, Natalie, the four boys.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, yeah.
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Cody Westerlund
We do it every year.
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Dan Bernstein
And so I'm in last in ours in our busted bracket challenge, brought to you by Giordano's. Yes. I'm trailing the staff.
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Cody Westerlund
Is. It is Cody. Still is Cody. It's Cody.
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Dan Bernstein
We're all separated by one point.
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Cody Westerlund
All right? So at home. And we've done this for our third year now. Jackson won the trophy the first year. We have a trophy that can go to your room. Henry won it last year, and I did a final tabulation going into the final four. Natalie has officially won this year's bracket challenge in the Abata Cola home. Yeah. And so even regardless of what happens, we can't. We can't catch her.
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Dan Bernstein
So. Wow. Yeah, that's that. She ran away and hid.
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Cody Westerlund
She did. It was that. It was. It was the. It was the first round victories that. That just separated her from the rest of us.
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Dan Bernstein
What's the prize? What does she win?
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Cody Westerlund
The trophy.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. But no, like breakfast in bed or. You don't have to do.
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Cody Westerlund
No, no, you get. You get the trophy and you get the bragging rights of it. So you know, add your name to the trophy, so it should be the third name added.
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Dan Bernstein
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, it sure is.
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Dan Bernstein
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Cody Westerlund
Well, there was a game that they were involved with.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. And. And that's kind of how you do it. That with seeing Lachlan Ulbricht and yuki Kawamura. Mac McClung. There you go.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah. I was listening to the game and
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Dan Bernstein
I thought, you should be. You should be very happy, Dan.
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Cody Westerlund
I was like, this is how you lose game at the end of a season.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes. That there. Where was this? You gave up percentage points. Where was this board? That's how you do it. Like, all of a sudden, after the Jaden Ivy thing, it's like everybody snapped. Like, oh, wait. Oh, we need a direction. We got to figure out how to do this. We got to. We got to maybe, maybe tell Billy Donovan.
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Cody Westerlund
You know, let's start with not playing any defense. Let's start there.
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Dan Bernstein
You want to give up 150 points in a game.
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Cody Westerlund
Beautiful. How many points they give up in the first half?
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Dan Bernstein
Was it 70? Like, no. Was it 80? Because I. What was the total first half number? 83. Oh, that's perfect. That's perfect. And can I have to confess before I get into the Bulls, I. If I'm a little out of it today, it's. And if I just feel. Seem a little distracted, I'm trying not to be. We have 23 people.
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Cody Westerlund
That's a big day. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
We have 23 people here. Last night was officially the first Seder for Passover. We're doing just because of schedule and when my sister's family could get in from Brooklyn. We're doing tonight because they're all arriving today. And
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Cody Westerlund
I don't think I knew that Jill lives in Brooklyn.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. And Jill and her husband, their two kids, they have a lovely place in Brooklyn. Oh, I love their neighborhood.
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Cody Westerlund
Very lovely.
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Dan Bernstein
It's either. Yep. Walking distance from a Norm's Pizza. Yeah, that would be a problem. But then Again, in Brooklyn, you're walking distance from all awesome kinds of food, of every single dozen within all the time. Yeah. One of their favorite places, like, oh, yeah, we discovered this Yemeni place that's down the street. It's incredible. It's unbelievable. Like, of course it is, because it's almost, you know, it's like, European in the way, you know your shop, you know your fishmonger, you know your baker. It's kind of old fashioned that way.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, it kind of goes along with our conversation yesterday about how diversity is good.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, yeah. You know, when you go the coolest thing walking to Brooklyn, there's a Syrian bakery right next to a. Or no, it's a Syrian butcher shop next to a kosher bakery. And everybody's out front. Everybody's on the stoops out front hanging out and talking about the Yankees.
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Cody Westerlund
So it's. It's.
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Dan Bernstein
You know, just walking through Brooklyn can absolutely warm your heart when you see some of that stuff. But anyway, I'm cooking for all these people, and I gotta make soup today, and I'm running around. I was joking with Beth that I feel like Henry Hill in the last act of Goodfellas, where I'm looking up to see if there's a helicopter. I'm breaking out in a cold sweat. I'm running back to make sure the soup is going and that the meat is sliced, and I can heat that up. And then I got all these errands to run. And I'm hearing Harry Nielsen's jump into the fire, as I.
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Cody Westerlund
Well, if you need a little pick me up, you know what to do. You need a little energy, buddy.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, that's what I told. I said. I said. I said to Beth, I said, don't say a thing about your lucky hat. Yeah, it's my lucky hat. I can't go anywhere without my lucky hat. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be dragged into a police station with people pulling out a powdery scale and. Yeah, no, if you smile a little
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Cody Westerlund
bit, is there a giant pile on your desk there?
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Dan Bernstein
Just. Come on, man.
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Cody Westerlund
No, no.
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Dan Bernstein
Hurried flushing anything down the toilet. Oh, we did have to throw something out, by the way, real quick. I. There's a traditional dish that's made that is a mixture of chopped peeled apples. Okay. Sweet Concord wine, cinnamon, and walnuts. And it symbolizes the mortar between the bricks when the slaves were building for the Egyptians.
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Cody Westerlund
And
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Dan Bernstein
it's delicious. It's part of the. And we Made it. It took us hour and a half to do everything and make it. And then we realized there was something wrong with the walnuts. There was. There's something. And it tasted like. Like turpentine, like. Like the walnut oil. It was something wrong with them, and we had to throw everything out. It was the last thing we did before we went to sleep last night.
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Cody Westerlund
How many apples did you, like, have to peel and core and cut?
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Dan Bernstein
12. 12.
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Cody Westerlund
It took you 90 minutes. Put that.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, because you got a core them, you got to trim them, then you gotta. You gotta food process them. And then we have.
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Cody Westerlund
And.
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Dan Bernstein
And it took a while.
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Cody Westerlund
Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
Because we had a bunch of other things going. So now we gotta do that all over again. We had to throw it all out immediately. I took one bite. I'm like, nope, I'm not serving that.
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Cody Westerlund
All right.
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Dan Bernstein
All gotta go.
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Cody Westerlund
All right.
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Dan Bernstein
So if I'm. If I'm a little distracted, I apologize. That's why. But regarding the Bulls. Go watch or listen to owc. That was posted yesterday evening. Jason and I had a conversation with Julia Poe of the Tribune. She was fantastic, fantastic describing the. The feel of this team right now, the directionless, rudderless aspects of what's going on and her take and, well, her description of the conversations that she was having with Josh Giddey, what's been going on in the locker room, what happened specifically with Jaden Ivy and the conversations she's been having about what was known about Jaden Ivy, what wasn't known, the problems with the vetting of multiple players and injury possibilities and really how bad it's gotten. You're going to want to listen to this particular episode if you are a Bulls fan. I posted it last night, and it's available for you in the 312Sports app. The other thing that I thought was significant about it was the decision on Ivy from. According to Julia, was directly from ownership and swiftly from ownership that this. This. There was no dilly dallying on this. They heard what happened. They. They found out and they moved on it. What is unfortunate is there were comments from Jaden Ivy about abusing his wife that were public knowledge before they even acquired him. And that's part of the vetting issue that she goes into in detail. But. But they. The fact that they moved quickly on this, as she said, was an indication that when ownership wants to do something with the bul, they can do it.
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Cody Westerlund
That's what I was gonna say. That was nice to see that they could actually make a decision or have
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Dan Bernstein
a thought in view. Yes. And that's where the discussion went was, if anything, this incident might empower Michael Reinsdorf to be like, oh, look at this. I can control what's going on here. This is something that we can handle. When I say something gets done, it gets done. And there were some other people saying, well, you know, there's a lot more you could get done right now. And she also confirmed that it is very possible that Billy Donovan could end up elsewhere. That it is. Everything is fluid right now. It may not just be the. I don't think he's going to take the Carolina job. That's just sort of in the discussion that I've had that it's. There's too many unknown. Unknowns about college coaching right now.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And, and too much work. And you know, when you talk about like the Bears with their tax certainty, if you take that job right now, there's no college sports certainty for what a coach's job is even really expected to be. So I, it would, it would not surprise me if Billy Donovan were to have had enough of the Bulls if he takes a year away, if he wants to broadcast or do something, do, do a, do a walkabout and go study with other coaches because he's, he is a coachy coach. He's not Thibodeau, but he's, he is a coaching coach. He loves breaking down film. He loves the job. But at the pro level, it's certainly very, very different than all of the ongoing uncertainties of the collegiate level.
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Cody Westerlund
So check out that interview on OWC with Julia Poe. You can get it there right there on the, the 312Sports app. You know, and, you know, you talk about the Reinsdorfs being able to make a decision on this and move swiftly and have that decision executed. While that's a positive thing, it'd also be an extra indictment against ownership for their lack of any activity, any decision. Those organization. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
They're not mutually exclusive. And it's absolutely true to wonder how long it's been where everything is just kind of okay. That you're. You're trading on old memories and powerful
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Cody Westerlund
branding and still filling the seats.
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Dan Bernstein
Powerful marketing.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
They all, they are filling the seats. But when you look at, when you go to a game and you look at which suites are dark, you start to kind of get. I would say next time you go to a game, look, look and see up top and around where you're talking a lot of the revenue. Even if places might be paid for or, you know, where the, where are the lights on, where is activity? And sometimes that is a.
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Cody Westerlund
That's a. That's a fair. That's a fair question to pose about the attendance. But when you're leading the league, though,
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Dan Bernstein
year after year, that's still pretty significant in individual attendance. Yes. But I also think it's important to look at your. Where you're generating corporate dollars and where you're getting some of the big renewals on those really expensive suites in. In the uc. Yeah. So I. That's. Just keep an eye on it. And that can have an effect. I don't know if there is enough of one yet, but somebody. Friend of mine texted me from the game last night and he's like, I'm at the game. Like, wow, you're. You're at a Bulls game in April. This team. Okay, good for you. And then he said, well, I got
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Cody Westerlund
tickets from work, and as I say,
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Dan Bernstein
like, where they come from, he starts making all the. You don't have to make excuses.
- [36:10]
Cody Westerlund
Sure he does.
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Dan Bernstein
I wasn't like, I wasn't really judging you.
- [36:13]
Cody Westerlund
You were judging.
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Dan Bernstein
And that's what he said. Make excuses. That's what he said. He said, yes, yes, you're judging.
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Cody Westerlund
I was walking down the street and they. They were laying there and I didn't
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Dan Bernstein
know what it was. Somebody just said, come on in here. I.
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Cody Westerlund
And I don't know how we got here.
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Dan Bernstein
There was a basketball game going on.
- [36:27]
Cody Westerlund
And then.
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Dan Bernstein
And then he said, the Bears. The Bears. The Bulls have three players on the floor who at once to just above 18ft of total height. Is that good? And I said, for this Bulls team right now, that's perfect.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, that's a way to do it.
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Dan Bernstein
Three guys.
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Cody Westerlund
Donovan should put just three guys out there.
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Dan Bernstein
I said two. I said, yuki and Ulbrich, my team is on the floor.
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Cody Westerlund
Give him a third. Give him a third.
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Dan Bernstein
My team is on the floor. That's it. Yuki ulbricht and Mac McClure.
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Cody Westerlund
I'm out there for a three tournament against a full roster.
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Dan Bernstein
Perfect. Yeah. Well, let's be honest. The games are getting interesting right now in the collegiate world, and that's what makes this time of year so good. What is not a question, at least shouldn't be for you, is your game day food. If you're watching these games, wherever it may be, whether you're out with friends, whether you're at home, you need something that delivers. Do what I do. Go with Giordano's. You've got the four full lineup, their famous Chicago deep dish. If you want Something loaded. Tavern style pizza. That's your square cut that everybody can grab on thin crust. You want to keep it classic. And don't stop there. Don't stop there, boys. Wings, cookies, game day deals. So then you've got this real spread and you're not scrambling at halftime. You're not making bad last minute decisions. And then there's food that shows up the way it's supposed to. As unpredictable as these games are, your setup shouldn't be and doesn't have to be. Order Delivery now at Giordano's.com or visit a Giordano's location near you for pickup and grab the perfect game day spread. Game day deals are happening now. Giordano's your bracket may bust. Mine has your pizza. Shouldn't. There were a couple of headlines yesterday, both regarding rehab and they're very different stories, but they tried to make them go to rehab and they said yes, yes, yes. I am speaking of Puka Nakua and Tiger Woods.
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Cody Westerlund
Well, I finally saw the Tiger woods head cover that you mentioned the other day. Yep, it's pretty good.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, it's sad, but it's.
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Cody Westerlund
It's pretty good.
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Dan Bernstein
And there was another meme that I saw that said like every shopping cart you get at the store and it was three pictures of like smiling young Tiger woods. And then the fourth one representing the one bad wheel was.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh yeah, yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
So it was. That was clever. But let's start with Puka Nakua, who not only is going to this what they're calling a holistic rehab in Malibu, he has been there. His lawyer, Levi McCathern said that Pukinakua. This is after the latest allegations of biting a woman repeatedly against her desires. And once again for a second time making anti semitic comments, said that he is. According to his lawyer, Nakua hopes to use the time quote to improve his overall behavior in every aspect of his life. He said this is his lawyer. The decision for him to go to rehab was not a result of the recent allegations, but added that the combination of stories y' all have run is certainly a contributing factor. So they're blaming the media for sending his client to rehab. McCathern also says it is unfortunate that a trivial lawsuit has drawn attention to Puka during a time when he's focused on on becoming a better overall person. I'm really excited to see what the future holds for this gifted young man. McCathern described the center as holistic, offering services for those battling drug and alcohol addiction, chronic pain and mental health conditions.
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Cody Westerlund
Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
He said he had Been in the rehab center for a substantial period of time before the allegations surfaced. He's expected to remain there for a while longer. Said he's committed to using this time constructively so he can return in the best possible position, both personally and professionally to continue contributing to his team and the game he loves. He'll complete the program in time to fully participate in all the Rams OTAs. He's deeply grateful for the support he's received. Now this is. The timing for Naku is not great and it's clear that this is why he's doing this. This isn't me talking now that this is his contract year that they, they were already beginning to talk about a contract extension.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And now when you got Sean McVeigh saying he trusts the kid's heart and they've. There's been all kinds of broadly stated but unspecific comments by the team that sound optimistic that they will be able to reward him with the massive contract that they want to give him. But it, but it does sound like they have. They've taken a step back to something short of a full commitment. I just, I gotta be careful because I hope that they're. That Pukinakua is okay. I hope that there are not any actual mental health issues which are absolutely real and certainly merit treatment and if there is any substance aspect to this that I hope this center would take care of that as well. I'm personally have always been a little dubious of these holistic or non traditional centers that have been used for famous people to hit reset that, that are expensive boutique retreats essentially to allow entertainers to be able to almost like declare image bankruptcy and say, you know, getting out from my debts and reestablishing and it's like the, the equivalent of like declaring a PR chapter 11. And there are, there are places that function in this regard. I don't necessarily believe the lawyer that this is completely coincidental that Puka Nakua's enrollment in this or his admission to this facility and choice to be admitted to this facility was just coincidentally timed with these allegations. I think that is testing our credulity. Bottom line is I, I hope whatever this may be, I, I hope his alleged victim is, is heard and gets every opportunity for whatever restitution may be possible in court. And I don't know if it's possible to go to rehabilitation for stupid anti Semitism, whether it was the. What the, the podcaster asked him to do with that dance that he did and he claimed he didn't know what it was despite people warning him what it was, or these recent reports that once again, in these conflicts with this alleged victim that he was again, engaging in anti Semitic tropes. I don't know that there's a rehab facility that can cleanse you of that.
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Cody Westerlund
Well, I mean, I'm initially skeptical hearing that, oh, he was. He already was in rehab. I mean, that. That's. I'm skeptical in just hearing that now. My logical side thinking says, all right, well, that's easy to prove or disprove that he wasn't really there. I mean, someone could track that down if they really want.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, I'm not saying he. He wasn't there, but it may be that they knew the story was coming out. Very often somebody has an idea that, look, this is going to be public.
- [45:12]
Cody Westerlund
Get ahead of it.
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Dan Bernstein
Get ahead of it, and they pay a lot of money.
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Cody Westerlund
Those are, those are fair. That's. That's a fair. Those are fair questions to ask. And it's. It's fair skepticism to have, too, with celebrities.
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Dan Bernstein
That's all. So I just want to sort of state the facts as I know them.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
But anytime I hear about Malibu Holistic Everything Rehabilitation, that this is not a clinic where you're going because of a specific addiction or diagnosis or court order. It's just kind of this generalized Malibu Holistic re. What's a rehab for Every.
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Cody Westerlund
Everything everything, whatever it might be, was when I read to improve his overall behavior in every aspect of life.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. I don't know of a facility, a clinical facility. You. Any, Anybody can open a facility and call it whatever it is.
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Cody Westerlund
Sure.
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Dan Bernstein
But I would love to know about the specific clinical accreditations of certain facilities that allow them to be categorized medically or not, psychologically or not, where, what they're allowed to say that they do based on how they are seen by authorities, State, federal, otherwise, what restrictions, what
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Cody Westerlund
laws they operate under.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Are there doctors involved? Are there not doctors involved? Are there licensed clinical social workers involved and licensed counselors involved? Or is it just people?
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Cody Westerlund
A life coach.
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Dan Bernstein
Right. Exactly. Exactly. For lack of a better term. Now, the Tiger woods thing is different because Tiger Woods. Because he was there. There is a criminal court aspect to this that there are. There. There is a. He's a. He has to ask for permission to leave the country right now because his DUI charge will have to work its way through criminal courts. He apparently has received permission to go to a facility in Mexico. And the argument that his lawyers put forward was that he would be in too much danger of a Privacy violation in the United States. They wouldn't have control over his privacy. And that a loss of privacy could affect his treatment. It sounds like it was convincingly argued that that was the case. I am also, based on the. What's happening overall, much more convinced that Tiger woods has actual substantial substance problems. And that from what it sounds like having in reports that he had hydrocodone on him. That's the. The primary ingredient in Vicodin, and that he also had. That he appeared to be intoxicated in some way based on the descriptions in the police report. Yeah.
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Cody Westerlund
And his breathalyzer came up zeros. And then when was asked about a blood test, he refused. That's where. That's when he was arrested.
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Dan Bernstein
Yep. And that this has happened multiple times where there have been issues. I. It is much easier for me to genuinely believe that Tiger woods needs whatever professional help that he is seeking.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Also addiction that he has. Yeah. Also hope for the best with him. But that certainly sounds like it fits the profile of actual rehab where he has to go get his body right. In a way that doesn't need certain chemicals. And the end mind, I should say also as well. But look, I hope everybody gets better. I just think this is a situation where the headlines are right next to each other. I'm not sure that one size fits all as far as what treatment would be required or what we should presume is going on based on what a lawyer says is happening. Well, everything's getting better. He's going to the place that just makes everything better. Okay. If you say so. So Illinois just took down Iowa. Michigan knocked off Tennessee in a beatdown, and UConn sent Duke home at the buzzer. When. When we convene here tomorrow. I've got a lot of thoughts on Illinois and UConn, some strategic stuff. I actually have been watching some tape and.
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Cody Westerlund
And I'm excited for that game.
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Dan Bernstein
Look forward. I am, too.
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Cody Westerlund
509 on Saturday night.
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Dan Bernstein
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Cody Westerlund
This is great.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, well I've got, I've got a couple stories here because I haven't even told you the other story I've got now you alerted me to this. I did not know that. We have had a heist, a significant heist, a massive heist which I love. You know, it's always find interesting. Regardless, it has been, you know, famous paintings but. KitKat has had a truck stolen. KitKat announced that thieves in Europe have stolen an entire truck containing just over 400,000 candy bars. And in response the company has launched a stolen KitKat tracker. 12 tons of kit Kats has been taken. He said that the spokesman. We really want to know where they've gone. This was actually, this was a posted to X. So we don't know exactly who's saying it other than their account. They're saying this is not a stunt, it is not an April Fool's joke. Thieves stole more than 12 tons off a truck leaving an Italian production site, Scoozy last week. The Swiss food producer that distributes Kit Kat bars globally except in the United States where Hershey has the rights. This is Nestle. Nestle has the rights there. Hershey has the rights here. You're gonna hear about Hershey in just a second. But Nestle launched a stolen KitKat tracker yesterday. And it directs customers to find the eight digit batch code. Enter it into the tracker. It then indicates whether the chocolate's from the stolen batch. If it's not, users can help widen the search by sharing the tracker. Nobody really knows what happens if somebody enters that batch code. I'm sure they're tracking it and they're probably going to come over with guns drawn. I don't know but I said the scanner will be given clear instructions on how to alert. KitKat will then share the evidence appropriately. USA Today learned that the goods were the company's brand new formula one car shaped Kit Kat bars. There's a picture here. These look so damn cool.
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Cody Westerlund
Looks Pretty cool, right?
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, yeah. Why can't we get these here? These are only for Europe. That the truck left a production site in central Italy for European distribution sites. The vehicle and its contents remain unaccounted for. They were ultimately destined for Poland. So what we don't know is whether or not the truck was hijacked or whether or not the delivery drivers were paid off and are in on it and just kind of took off with was an 800 mile route. Nestle did not say where the truck was taken. They said fans need not be concerned about the theft affecting Kit Kat supplies at retail. They say their global supply chain is robust and diversified. But here we go.
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Cody Westerlund
So now here's the very best part of the story though are the other brands, other companies that took to X, one of them being Domino's Pizza uk. They wrote on their Twitter. We would like to share our thoughts and condolences with KitKat following their recent sad news. On a completely unrelated note, we're pleased to announce we'll now be selling a new Kit Kat pizza.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, see, that's why when I, I thought this was an indication of it being April Fools.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
So this is what, clowning them?
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was the end of March. So Outback Steakhouse also chimed in. Our thoughts are with our mates at KitKat as they navigate this unexpected and difficult time. In completely unrelated news, introducing the new Blooming KitKat. Just $1 while supplies are abundant.
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Dan Bernstein
All right, let's move closer to home right now.
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Cody Westerlund
All right, what's this one now?
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Dan Bernstein
Well, I mentioned that Hershey is in charge of KitKat production and distribution here in the United States. Hershey now also is making Reese's products. And in a major announcement, Hershey said yesterday it will use classic recipes for all Reese's products starting next year. A change that comes after the grandson of Reese's founder criticized the company for shifting to cheaper ingredients. So this caught me by surprise. Reese's peanut butter cups have always been made with real milk chocolate or dark chocolate and peanut butter. But a small portion of Hershey's and Reese's products, like mini Easter eggs, are now made with a coating that contains less chocolate. Hershey said in 2027, it'll shift these products to their classic milk chocolate and dark chocolate recipes. They said they will also be making other changes to the sweets portfolio next year, transitioning to natural colors and enhancing Kit Kat's recipe to make it creamier. Hershey is committed to making products consumers love. That means continually reviewing our recipes to meet, evolving Tastes and preferences. Brad Reese, the grandson of the inventor of Reese's peanut butter cups. Only the grandson, Brad Reese ignited the controversy in a public letter he sent on Valentine's Day to Hershey's corporate brand manager. How does the Hershey company continue to position Reese's as its flagship brand, a symbol of trust, quality and leadership, while quietly replacing the very ingredients, milk chocolate and peanut butter, that built Reese's trust in the first place? Reese wrote in the letter, which he posted on his LinkedIn profile. Hershey acknowledged some recipe changes, but said it was trying to meet consumer demand for innovation. High cocoa prices have led Hershey and other manufacturers to experiment with using less chocolate in recent years.
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Cody Westerlund
So they fired him. That was the first move they did
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Dan Bernstein
was they got rid of Brad Reese.
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Cody Westerlund
No, less chocolate.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, less chocolate. He had to go, of course. The AP left a message with Brad Reese yesterday seeking comment. Brad Reese is the grandson of H.B. reese, who spent two years at Hershey before forming his own Candy Company in 1919. H.B. reese invented Reese's peanut butter cups. In 1928, his six sons sold the company. Six sons sold. In 1963, they sold it to Hershey. So if it's, if it's less chocolate, that means it's like that waxy garbage
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Cody Westerlund
they said that was on the Easter eggs.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, it's on the Easter eggs and apparently also on the non peanut butter cup shape. I guess it's like the, the east. Yeah, the Santa one, the reindeer one. All of the one offs. That used to be the pumpkin on Halloween.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, pumpkin on Halloween.
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Dan Bernstein
All of those shapes that I used to think were better because of the ratio and thickness of chocolate to peanut butter. Now they're using that weird wax or carob. It's like those awful, like those disgusting Hanukkah gold gelt. You know the other Hanukkah coins.
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Cody Westerlund
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
They come in the yellow bag.
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Cody Westerlund
There's some, they're not good.
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Dan Bernstein
There are some people who love those because of the nostalgia.
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Cody Westerlund
Sure. But they don't taste good.
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Dan Bernstein
No, it tastes, it tastes like bad hot chocolate.
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Cody Westerlund
Have you.
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Dan Bernstein
Because it's mostly wax.
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Cody Westerlund
Hank likes Reese's peanut butter cups a lot. So I'm always looking at Reese's. You know, there's a lot of variations. Have you seen what they have now? They have like a, like a peanut butter and jelly one. There's like a little layer of jelly. There's, there's one that has a layer of caramel.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. There's like, there's a, like a white chocolate one. Yeah, there's one with pretzels in it.
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Cody Westerlund
There's the giant one, which I think you would like. It's like, weighs like a pound, but it's just like one giant peanut butter cup.
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Dan Bernstein
Just stay off my fast break bar. Stay on the take. Five is good, but the fast break, as long as Reese's isn't messing with my fast break because, you know, I put you on that one.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah, that was a good one.
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Dan Bernstein
I found those. And, and, and don't. Don't mess with that. Don't.
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Cody Westerlund
You still eating like four 1 pound bars for dessert at night or.
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Dan Bernstein
No, no. Last night I had a pint of coffee ice cream. Because I have to start with for the week, I'm in the home. I'm trying to keep Passover. So I did. This was really good. You would have loved. This is right up your alley. You take, you do fried matzah, which you take pieces of matzo and you break them up into chunks and you run it under warm water and it softens the matzah and it gets like a noodle sort of consistency. And I can do this. I can make matzo lasagna with it. But what I do, it's fried matzo or matzo braai. And so you soften the chunks of matzo. You scramble eggs. You coat the matzah in the eggs like French toast. Okay. So essentially it's like making French toast. And some people do make it sweet. I make it savory. So I get. I had all the. The egg coated matzah. I start a pan with onions and kosher salami or Hebrew national kosher hot dogs cut up.
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Cody Westerlund
Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
And with the onions and, and the salami or hot dogs in chunks, you. You render the fat off of that and you get a black and crisp around the edges. Like, I like it really charred.
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Cody Westerlund
Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
Then you throw in the, the. The matzo and egg just for a few minutes, get it all cooked through, depending on how you like it. And then you can melt cheese over the top and then salt and pepper, maybe a little hot sauce.
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Cody Westerlund
Then. Is that where the coffee ice cream comes in or.
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Dan Bernstein
And then at the end and then after.
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Cody Westerlund
You don't mix the coffee ice cream in that.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, no, but I, But I can't have like half a pecan pie like I usually would. So I've got to. I've got to just figure out my dessert.
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Cody Westerlund
That was just a. Was that a snack or was that a dinner?
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Dan Bernstein
That was my meal yesterday.
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Cody Westerlund
That was a meal.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. Yeah. After I'm hauling chairs around and moving tables around and carrying linens in the house and bringing in all of the plates and the coffee cups and the wine glasses and all that stuff that got dropped off. So I. And Beth, of course, she. Oh, my arm hurts. I still recovering from my arm, so I had to do all of that.
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Cody Westerlund
Well, you should have done all that anyway, even if she was completely healthy.
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Dan Bernstein
No, she's a perfectly capable. Oh.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm getting the Double Birds right now.
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Cody Westerlund
The.
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Dan Bernstein
Sorry. Yes, I'm. Yeah, we're recording. I looked at all of those this morning. He's lying. I'm not lying. Exaggerating. I may be exaggerating.
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Cody Westerlund
See, you are. And I. Hey, tell Beth I support her. You should do all the heavy lifting.
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Dan Bernstein
All right. Matt says he supports you, and I should do way more than he just said. Such a liar.
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Cody Westerlund
Wow, that's a first on the show.
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Dan Bernstein
Back to the peloton with you, if that got you off the peloton.
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Cody Westerlund
Wow. Wait, why are you telling her she needs to work out now.
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Dan Bernstein
You're a bad guy. I'm not telling her she needs to work out.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh, Jesus.
- [62:34]
Dan Bernstein
Oh, this is gonn. Badly.
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Cody Westerlund
First, she doesn't do anything around the house. Now she needs to work out more.
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Dan Bernstein
I didn't say that.
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Cody Westerlund
Oh, my goodness.
- [62:42]
Dan Bernstein
This is.
- [62:43]
Cody Westerlund
Wow. This is bad.
- [62:47]
Dan Bernstein
I gotta wait till I hear the peloton. Wow.
- [62:49]
Cody Westerlund
I don't know if I want to be associated with this show.
- [62:54]
Dan Bernstein
Wow. No, I'm looking for the Honda.
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Cody Westerlund
What? I can't believe you. I can't believe it's Passover, too. And you tell your wife to do more and work out more.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, you know, we should have done more when the kid was.
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Cody Westerlund
Is that one of the Passover traditions?
- [63:10]
Dan Bernstein
Passover traditions? What, me?
- [63:12]
Cody Westerlund
Your wife?
- [63:13]
Dan Bernstein
Me sleeping down here tonight. Why is tonight different from all other nights?
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Cody Westerlund
Well, happy Passover, babe. First of all, you need to do more around the house. Secondly, get your ass on that peloton, will you?
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Dan Bernstein
As is true. Well, she was. You know, she was. That. The peloton is in the other room and she's in workout clothes.
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Cody Westerlund
That's terrible.
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Dan Bernstein
Right? The old. The old tradition. You sleep in the basement.
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Cody Westerlund
Bad guy. Yeah, well, that.
- [63:36]
Dan Bernstein
There's your little surprise. And.
- [63:39]
Cody Westerlund
All right, you know, helping out a little more. I get that you're busy. You got 23 people telling her to go work out more.
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Dan Bernstein
It's. Well, because she came. She was on the peloton, and then she came in here.
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Cody Westerlund
Shut your mouth, woman. Go work out on the peloton Hit the bike, lady. How many matzos did you have last night? That a whole gallon of ice cream you ate?
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Dan Bernstein
I have a deep. Okay. All right, well.
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Cody Westerlund
Yeah. Well, I hope I'm helping you, so.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for that. Much appreciated.
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Cody Westerlund
She's listening to you.
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Dan Bernstein
Awesome.
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Cody Westerlund
Awesome.
- [64:12]
Dan Bernstein
All right, well, that. That's dbu.
- [64:15]
Cody Westerlund
Well, we'll see who's here for forward progress.
- [64:18]
Dan Bernstein
We'll see if it's me and Cody
- [64:20]
Cody Westerlund
or it's just me. I was gonna say it's me and George.
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Dan Bernstein
If I. If I have a black eye before for forward progress today, that means I didn't duck, but.
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Cody Westerlund
Whoa, look out.
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Dan Bernstein
Whoa. Look out, ducks. All right, that's dbu, brought to you in partnership with my bookie and also by our friends at Giordano's, Dan Bernstein. Unfiltered. Unfiltered on 312Sports.