How will the Chicago Bulls new pieces fit with Josh Giddey?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered — How will the Chicago Bulls new pieces fit with Josh Giddey?

Podcast: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered
Host(s): Dan Bernstein, Jason (co-host)
Date: February 19, 2026
Episode Theme: Analyzing the post-trade deadline Chicago Bulls, focusing on how incoming players, particularly young talents and recent reclamation projects, will fit and develop alongside Josh Giddey and the team's new direction.

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Overview

In this sharp, unfiltered discussion, Dan Bernstein and co-host Jason tackle the Chicago Bulls’ major roster changes post-trade deadline. With the team in clear retooling mode, the episode debates the challenge of balancing player development and "strategic losing" (to improve draft odds), while previewing how new and existing pieces — most notably Josh Giddey, Robert Dillingham, Jaden Ivey, and Anfernee Simons — might integrate. The conversation expands to thought-provoking NBA topics like reclamation projects, coaching criticisms, and extends into rapid-fire debates on online NBA discourse, from player "burner" accounts and LeBron James commentary to a humorous digression on Mardi Gras adventures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bulls' Post-Trade Deadline Philosophy (04:48–10:15)

• Roster Purge: The Bulls underwent a major overhaul, swapping out around seven players and bringing in several unheralded talents and draft picks.
• Development vs. Tanking:
  • Jason: “It is really important to find out which of the raw materials they got back [...] all that we can do over the final 30 games here is get an idea, a real idea of who's in future plans and who isn’t based on game, based on age and based on how they work with Josh Giddey.” (06:05)
  • Dan: “All you want is for them to play hard and lose at the end. Which is what they’ve been doing so far.” (07:12)
• Integrating Josh Giddey: Giddey, coming off injury, is central to the Bulls' next phase. His style will test how well new arrivals like Dillingham, Ivey, and Simons mesh with the system.
• Key Young Players:
  • Dan: “The two biggest guys there are Dillingham and Ivey. You don’t take a shot on those two [...] if you don’t think they can be part of something.” (07:36)
  • Simons as X-factor: “He might command a lot of money this offseason. I love his game. I think he's better than Kobe White.” (07:58)

2. Player-Specific Development & Resetting Expectations (10:15–15:47)

• Dillingham’s Uncertainty: Fresh start in Chicago could unlock his lead-guard upside if past team judgments are set aside.
• Jason: “I hope they can reset him to factory defaults and basically say, pretend we drafted you.” (11:11)
• NBA ‘Second Drafts’: The hosts muse, with examples, on how often players traded early in their careers blossom into stars:
  • Dan: “Shay Gilgeous-Alexander [...] was a rookie, traded, became an All-Star.” (13:03)
  • Rob Dillingham and Ivey are viewed as gambles, but ones that could pay off with time and right coaching.

3. Billy Donovan’s Coaching — Is Criticism Justified? (15:47–17:20)

• Both hosts reject the common scapegoating:
  • Jason: “I really don’t. I don’t know how you can identify at what he specifically has been the problem.” (15:48)
  • Dan: “None.” (15:47)
  • Minor criticism: Slow to move on from the DeRozan/Ball era offensively, but not seen as egregious.

4. Reflecting on the DeRozan Era (16:12–18:27)

• Recognition of DeRozan’s on-court brilliance but acknowledgment Bulls were never true contenders: "His first season was insane... Ultimately didn’t mean anything except... entertainment when we thought they were better than they were.” (17:20–17:40, Jason)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bulls’ philosophy:
  “The perfect game would be they play hard, they play hard, they play hard and they lose at the end.” — Dan Bernstein (07:12)

• On reclamation projects:
  “I hope the Bulls just say have at it, kind of f around, find out for the rest of this season — let’s just work on your game and see what the limit is.” — Dan Bernstein (12:10)

• On Donovan:
  "I don't know how you can identify at what he specifically has been the problem.” — Jason (15:48)

• On DeRozan:
  “That's a Hall of Fame player... he's an all-time great scoring artist. I'm not saying any other part of the game. At putting the ball in the basket, he is remarkably skilled." — Dan Bernstein (16:14)

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Other Key Segments

5. Around the NBA — Online Discourse & Off-Court Drama (18:27–34:53)

• Kevin Durant’s Burner Account Saga (19:14–25:16)
  • Twitter group chat leaks allege KD trashed teammates under an alias.
  • Dan: “Kevin Durant has always been very active on Twitter… there’s pretty good evidence that KD’s been running a burner to trash talk teammates.” (19:23)
  • Jason: “That is not a denial.” (on KD’s slippery press quotes) (20:40)
• LeBron “Controversy” (25:23–28:52)
  • Online backlash for innocuous Israel comments.
  • Dan: “Now the discourse is that LeBron is a Zionist and supports genocide… I thought it was a totally fair answer... not about politics at all.” (26:29–27:02)
• Michael Jordan’s Daytona 500 Viral Moment (29:08–29:49)
  • Joking speculation about video of Jordan celebrating awkwardly with a child; hosts agree it looked “weird” more than sinister.

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6. Lighter Moments & Pop Culture

• Mardi Gras Escapades:
  Digressions on New Orleans, Tulane University traditions, “Fat Tuesday fondler,” and a recurring joke about host alibis (30:19–34:19)

• Bulls/NBA Trivia:
  Quizzes on rookie scoring feats and players with the most consecutive 1,000-point seasons since 2000.

  • Highlight: Deep-dive into names like DeRozan, LeBron, James Harden, rusted legends, and Anton Jamison. (36:45–49:00)

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Timeline & Timestamps

• 04:48: Bulls' roster purge, development vs. tanking, new team direction
• 07:12: “Perfect game” philosophy: play hard, lose late
• 08:28–09:45: Simons and Dillingham fit next to Giddey; importance of sorting future core
• 11:11: On Dillingham’s reset in Chicago
• 13:03–15:47: NBA reclamation projects, rookie contract stars
• 15:47–17:20: Billy Donovan discussion
• 17:20–18:27: Reflection on DeRozan era in Chicago
• 19:14–25:16: Kevin Durant’s burner drama
• 25:23–28:52: LeBron Israel comments and social media backlash
• 29:08–29:49: Michael Jordan Daytona video
• 30:19–34:19: Mardi Gras, Fat Tuesday “fondler” humor, Tulane stories
• 36:45–49:00: NBA trivia: rookies with quickest 1,000 points, most 1,000-point seasons
• 49:33–50:54: Episode wrap-up — back to Bulls scouting, preview of the new look

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers a candid, layered look at a Bulls team in transition and the bigger context of player development in the NBA, peppered with Chicago-style wit and broader basketball reflections. Whether dissecting the future core or roasting online NBA drama, Bernstein and Jason deliver the kind of direct, entertaining analysis Bulls fans—and NBA obsessives—crave.

Transcript

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[Dan Bernstein]

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[Jason]

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[Dan Bernstein]

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[Jason]

I never thought I would miss Bad Bulls basketball like I do, but please can we have Bad Bulls basketball back?

[Dan Bernstein]

I miss it too.

[Jason]

I saw Tomorrow. I know I miss it. This particular break has felt longer. Maybe it's because there's no hockey either. It feels like there's no anything except people screaming at me on my television about sports. I don't know or understand.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's been a really weird, long break.

[Jason]

Yes, especially.

[Dan Bernstein]

Especially because of being in New Orleans and having Mardi Gras and feeling like tequila sunrise was eight days ago. But yesterday morning at 8:30am I was at the Boot.

[Jason]

That's what Tequila Sunrise is.

[Dan Bernstein]

You stay up the entire night and at the Boot.

[Jason]

Yes, okay. And you Made it. It's Ash Wednesday, so you made it through. Yesterday was Fat Tuesday. You've emerged. You. You lived through another Tulane University Mardi Gras. Was it as good as last year?

[Dan Bernstein]

It was fun, yeah, I think because I had a friend from home as well, that made it. That made it even more fun. But my room is in quite the predicament right now.

[Jason]

Were you human trafficked this year?

[Dan Bernstein]

What do you mean?

[Jason]

Were you thrown in the back of a U haul or put in?

[Dan Bernstein]

Not this year, no. Okay.

[Jason]

Because we get that letter from the parents that says if your dumb ass kid ends up in the. What is it? Jefferson Parish Jail, you don't call and.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, the biggest thing. The biggest thing is public urination.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And touching the horses. Those are the two that really get you.

[Jason]

What about urinating on a horse? That. Then you're. You're.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think. I think. I think that's the death penalty.

[Jason]

Okay. Just making sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

So I. I will. I will neither confirm nor deny the public urination. However, the touching horses, I did not do. But on the public urination, I plead the fifth.

[Jason]

Who's policing the horse? Touching. Like there's a. You're talking about the cop on the horse.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, there are cops on horses.

[Jason]

And then if you touch the horse, the cop drags you away.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I think the horse gives you a little one of those back kicks.

[Jason]

That's no fun. No, you don't want that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think the horse does it straight to the nads, too. I think that's part of the deal.

[Jason]

I just pictured the Beavis and Butthead bit where he's got that machine that's cranking the beep. What are you doing over there?

[Dan Bernstein]

Nothing.

[Jason]

I don't know. It looks like you're. No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or the Family Guy thing. It's a cutaway. When Peter, for some reason, has a horse leg and Brian walks up to the fridge and goes, can you grab me a beer? And Peter just kicks the crap out of him and goes flying across the room and goes, oh, I'm so sorry, Brian. I'm still getting used to this thing.

[Jason]

The conundrum facing the bulls now is an interesting one to me. So let me lay this out for you and tell me what you think.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason]

Everybody saying, some of us are saying it, some are not saying it. It is clear that at a very minimum, the byproduct of the deadline moves of this roster purge, where they got seven gone and seven new. Whatever you want to do it. The byproduct is they're likely to lose More than they would otherwise have won, they will put themselves in a position to increase their odds of getting one of the top three picks in this draft, in this very top heavy draft. Okay, so so far you'll stipulate to all these things. Now on the other side of that, it is really important to find out which of the these raw materials they got back that didn't seem to have value to other teams. Some of these secondary draft pieces that we all last episode that we went through in fine detail, some are going to fit, some are not. And all that we can do over the final 30 games here is get an idea, a real idea of who's in future plans and who isn't based on game, based on age and based on how they work with Josh Giddy and modest Bouz Ellis, who we know aren't probably going anywhere. We stipulate to that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

Okay, so here's my problem. They have to play hard and do everything they can possibly do to win. Once Josh Giddey comes back, which is apparently soon because he's back to playing three on three. So even though you would like for them to say, hey, we'll manage the minutes in a way that gets people a little bit of run, but we're not going to go too hard. We're not going to do anything that's going to bring in the wrath of Adam Silver at this point. But you're working at cross purposes because they're going to be balling out under Billy Donovan with this crew. If you think it's not enough anyway, you're probably fine. But what I'm trying to figure out is, as we get, what did you describe is the, the perfect game would be they play hard. They play hard. They play hard and they lose at

[Dan Bernstein]

the end, which is what they've been doing so far.

[Jason]

So far, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

But when Giddy comes back, that's a guy that helps you win.

[Jason]

Correct. And yet it is also the most important thing to see of Ivy, Dillingham, Richards, everyone who fits with the way Giddy plays.

[Dan Bernstein]

I agree with that.

[Jason]

So it's going to be tough.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I think the two biggest guys there are Dillingham and Ivy because you don't take a shot on those two guys without thinking that, oh, they could legitimately be a part of something. And Ivy's the biggest question mark because of his injury history and we don't know if he'll get back to that speed demon that he was. And Simons is an interesting one as well. However, he might command a lot of money this off season. I love his game. I love his game. I think he's a really good player. I think he's better than Kobe White. And if Simons is going to be that catch and shoot guy next to. Next to giddy like Kobe White was, okay, sure. How much are you willing to pay him?

[Jason]

Well, and Simons is also more than that because a lot of his shots do come off the bounce come off as a.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's a really good creator for himself and he has great pace. I just think he's a good player and he's really entertaining. I am interested to see how Dillingham fits in just because he came into the league projecting as a lead guard and he's really fast and really interesting. He just needs to grow in.

[Jason]

He needs to also with him and hearing Billy talk about it, he needs to understand good shots from bad shots.

[Dan Bernstein]

He needs to grow in multiple ways. I think.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think he needs to get in the gym and I think he needs to grow in a basketball sense when it comes to knowing what to do and when to do it, he has the speed and speed kills. I know it's not football, but speed kills in basketball as well. Especially with the way that Donovan runs his team, which we've seen multiple times where they'll play three good quarters and then just run out of gas. So I think Dillingham's a guy that can fit that style of play. We'll see about Ivy. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting.

[Jason]

Are you wearing a Lakewood Bar and Grill?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oak Wood. Oakwood. Okay.

[Jason]

Is that the one on Montrose?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Have you been there?

[Dan Bernstein]

Multiple times.

[Jason]

I've always wanted to stop in there. It looks sketchy.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's not really. No. No.

[Jason]

And why do you have.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a dive bar. It's open until God knows how long.

[Jason]

Oh. It's got a 4:00am License. Mm.

[Dan Bernstein]

And they were giving away T shirts and I got one.

[Jason]

Okay. I'm just curious. I've driven by it a million times.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And it always. But I don't know. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's great.

[Jason]

I'm just making sure.

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[Jason]

I think Dillingham is really interesting and I don't know what the Minnesota people told him his eventual NBA role was going to be there or what they said. Here's what. When they drafted him, here's how we see you, here's what we want you to work on. And I hope that they can reset him to factory defaults and basically say it's like we pretend we drafted you, pretend you're coming here, no expectations. Whatever your game was, whatever you thought you were going to be when you were a top 10 pick, we're open to thinking about whatever that might be. That's what I hope. Because sometimes these, these, these second drafts, these rookies on their original contract who aren't getting any run for whatever reason or are considered a disappointment for whatever reason, you can't allow the judgment of the previous team to necessarily bias the way you see that.

[Dan Bernstein]

We've seen that happen a number of times in the past too. Derek Favors was the third overall pick by the Nets and he got shipped to Utah. Buddy Heald went to the Pelicans and was traded to the Kingsford demarcus Cousins. So there's a lot, there are a lot of guys like that who have carved out good NBA careers for themselves. And so I hope, I agree with you in that. I hope the Bulls just say have at it kind of f around. Find out for the rest of this season and let's just, let's just work on your game and let's see what the limit is and just go.

[Jason]

I am, I would like to know if anybody who, anybody who's traded on a rookie contract became a star.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's what I'm trying to think. That's a tough question.

[Jason]

And not, not somebody traded on draft night. No, I know somebody traded on draft night. So here's here are some names that have come up from just on Google. It says Pau Gasol. No, his draft rights were traded. That doesn't count. Mikhail Bridges said treated to the Brooklyn Nets as part of the Durant trade.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but that was, that was, that was three years removed from when he was drafted. He was already established. He already played in the finals with Phoenix. Right.

[Jason]

He was, he was already really good. There's nothing that jumps to Mind of one of these reclamations. If somebody was like, you know, a first round pick who. It happens in baseball more often. It happens in basketball.

[Dan Bernstein]

We're really stupid. Shay, Gilgis, Alexander.

[Jason]

He was on Clippers Paul George trade. So that. Yeah, it was Paul George to the

[Dan Bernstein]

Clippers for Shea and five first round picks. Look at that.

[Jason]

How long had Shea played?

[Dan Bernstein]

One year. One full year in la. Wow. Kentucky guard. Yeah, I don't. I don't.

[Jason]

I don't. Good pull on your part, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

I looked it up. I looked it up.

[Jason]

That's really interesting. You must have had better search terms than I. You're.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just looked up. Has anyone on an NBA rookie contract been traded and been great?

[Jason]

Okay, well.

[Dan Bernstein]

Halliburton. Halliburton, that's another one. Kings to the Pacers.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was, I think his second year. He was traded.

[Jason]

All right, well those. Okay, good.

[Dan Bernstein]

So those are two good names.

[Jason]

Well done.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thank you.

[Jason]

Well done. That's exactly that. That's a perfect asked and answered so that to have eyes on Dillingham because you got to give. No matter what happens with Ivey, we know that it's going to be more than 30 games. He's going to need a full off season. And we've talked at length about his medical concerns and what you hope he's going to be able to do on the court, off the court, whatever the rehabilitation may be to get back where he needs to be. But Dillingham has no such restrictions and might just have to learn to play. And certainly they all have to get in shape in this uptempo system that Donovan's running. And I believe you said last week that there's still a lot of people out there who are faulting Billy Donovan for some of the issues the Bulls have had. And I still don't get it. I really don't. I don't know how you can identify at what he specifically has been the problem.

[Dan Bernstein]

None.

[Jason]

I don't think so either.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like when I can do.

[Jason]

When I was unhappy with Billy, it was because they took too long to get away from demar Ball that they took too long to. To not only get out from under the whole demar Zach thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

I agree with that to an extent. Because you're not going to tell a player like DeMar DeRozan to run up

[Jason]

and down the floor and cheats on.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think that's a Hall of Fame player. I mean, he hasn't had much playoff success, but you look at his numbers, the amount of points he's put up like he's a great, he's your favorite player's favorite player and he's, he's an all time great scoring artist. That's. I'm not saying any other part of the game at putting the ball in the basket. He is remarkably skilled and you can't tell somebody like that not to do that anymore.

[Jason]

You know, just came along at the wrong time.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was, he was a player lost those four months. Ah, that was what, that was four years ago already. Ridiculous.

[Jason]

But even so, he apparently couldn't control of, you know, when the game changed around him because he's been here a while, but it changed very, very fast and in the wrong direction for him. But nice guy. He was. He did some good things with the Bulls. We won some games. Give him a lot of credit.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he had that. His first season was insane. His February stretch where he tied like wilt for whatever 35 point game on, I think it was 55 plus percent from the field nine straight times.

[Jason]

Yeah. And he had the consecutive game winning

[Dan Bernstein]

shots on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.

[Jason]

Yeah. There was at Indiana and then Washington. Yep. Yeah, it was great. It was a nice little run and ultimately didn't mean anything except what ended up meaning more were the draft picks that they had to give up for him for a half a season of entertainment when we thought they were better than they were. If I had to come along a little later, maybe they would have an NBA cup to show for it. They would have the. Whoever's sponsoring the trophy. Trophy in their case. Well, now it'll be somebody else probably soon. Now this is. We're going to talk about some things here that you're probably better at than I am and I'll have to defer to you because you are an extremely online person in ways that I'm not.

[Dan Bernstein]

But apparently calling me chronically online. Really appreciate that.

[Jason]

Am I wrong?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, not at all.

[Jason]

Okay, well, the, the online discourse, as our producer Cody Delmendo put it, the online discourse surround surrounding three all time NBA greats. Yeah, surrounding, I'd say the greatest player of all time, the person too many people think is the greatest player of all time and one of the greatest ever scores of all time, if not the greatest pure scorer ever, are all finding themselves topics of discussion among the short attention span crowd. Where do you want to start?

[Dan Bernstein]

Kevin Durant, man. What?

[Jason]

Okay, well describe it first.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh my goodness. Just. Long story short, Kevin Durant has always been very active on Twitter and responding to people and there have been Rumors with pretty good evidence and screenshots and all this stuff that Kevin Durant has been running a burner account to trash talk teammates.

[Jason]

Teammates. Not trolls.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, not trolls.

[Jason]

Not random people. Not to have opinions on things.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was weak. And the evidence is that he's talking. When somebody would ask him a question, he would talk about it from first person perspective. That account was wished a happy birthday on Kevin Durant's birthday on September 29th by someone that. By an account. I don't know. And the people that he's talking about are. Aren't trolls. And it's, it's. And he was asked recently by a reporter about, about. He goes, that's just Twitter stuff. We're locked in on winning right now.

[Jason]

That is not a denial.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, that. It's not. It's. And there's so many clips of him this season just walking to the locker room or something and people say, yo, Kevin, he's always on his phone typing.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's. It's hysterical. And he said something about Steve Kerr saying if. When Michael Jordan. Who we'll talk about later. When Michael Jordan punched him. He's. He's always been against dark skinned players.

[Jason]

What? Durant said this.

[Dan Bernstein]

Durant said that.

[Jason]

Durant said he said something about harbors a grudge. He harbors a. Hold on a second.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

Kevin Durant said Steve Kerr harbors a grudge against dark skinned players because Michael Jordan punched him. I remember when that happened too. That means.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let me get some more stuff. He called Jabari Smith Jr. His own teammate a bad word. He said that Alperin Shangoon can't defend or shoot.

[Jason]

He certainly can't defend.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he can't defend. He said that even though that Ben Simmons sucks, he misses playing with them because he would give him the ball

[Jason]

because he didn't want to shoot.

[Dan Bernstein]

He. He talked about Kyrie being a diva, which is. I mean, that's fair.

[Jason]

And how feel the need to do this publicly?

[Dan Bernstein]

It. Well, it wasn't supposed to be. It was in Twitter group chats and it got. It got like leaked and stuff. It's. It's really.

[Jason]

Oh, wait, a Twitter group chat is what, compared to a text group chat?

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty much the exact same thing.

[Jason]

It's like a DM group chat.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, yeah, it's very. It's pretty much. Okay. Oh, all right.

[Jason]

So he wasn't. He wasn't posting?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he was on his teammates. It was in a group chat that got leaked.

[Jason]

Yes, and that's important to know. Okay. Still.

[Dan Bernstein]

Still, you gotta be Careful, man.

[Jason]

I know, but he really doesn't. Wasn't this happened before? Wasn't there another burner account years ago?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. With kd. You're saying.

[Jason]

I thought.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm sure there was.

[Jason]

I thought there was another issue with that.

[Dan Bernstein]

So. In the New York Times, Kevin Durant brushes off burner accusations. Let me find the. I know you got to ask these questions, but I'm not here to get into Twitter nonsense. My teammates know it. But. Hold on. But I get. I get. You all have to ask. My teammates know what it is. We've been locked in the whole season. We had a great practice today. Looking forward to the road trip. That's not a. No.

[Jason]

No. That isn't. It's. I'll sue anybody who says this. And, you know, like, he. He didn't want to fight too hard to say it's not him because maybe he wants some of this stuff out there. I don't. It doesn't seem like a big enough deal, but I. It just. It's just weird to me that he's this. I think the. The previous issue there have been. Was it Brian Colangelo.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

Who had the same thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Zones made fun of him?

[Jason]

Yes. That was in Phoenix.

[Dan Bernstein]

So.

[Jason]

All right. I mean, he's always been kind of emotionally needy with some of this stuff. Durant has about. Fine. But. But he doesn't care if people make fun of his hairline. Now there are two. Go ahead. What?

[Dan Bernstein]

A Kyrie thought the white European was going to play honorable hoops. Meaning. Luca, I'm crying. What else is there?

[Jason]

Is he saying that the white Europeans don't play honorable hoops in general? Was that his point?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. I don't know. I'm reading through more of this. I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that blank would give me the ball.

[Jason]

Maybe he just needs the release.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, he.

[Jason]

I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

He. He called Devin Booker and Frank Vogel two dictators. He compared. He compared Devin Booker to Stalin and said the Suns are my team when we lose and Book's team when we win. It's. It's. It's really brutal.

[Jason]

I guess he doesn't. He's too old to care. It doesn't really have to. It doesn't seem to matter at this point. Unless he's trying to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's go to.

[Jason]

Let's go to LeBron defense. All right, so LeBron is next.

[Dan Bernstein]

And Porter asked him about Israel. I don't remember what the exact question was, but he just. I think he was trying to give a very apolitical. Answer. And. Mm. He just said, I know there are a lot of fans out there that, that watch me and I appreciate them and I would love to visit at some point. It was, it was pretty much that. And oh, Cody just made a chat. His, his, his Kevin Durant's burner account was get off my Dickerson. I don't know that. That's, that's the account name. But yeah, it's really weird. But I don't, I don't think LeBron said anything wrong. But now the online discourse is that LeBron is a Zionist and supports genocide. And I just, I don't want to get into this right now or my, my opinions regarding this because it's, you know, dangerous waters and.

[Jason]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think. My God, it's really, it's, it's ridiculous. And that.

[Jason]

Because LeBron said I have fans there and I would like to visit. Now he's Theodore Herzl.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't know.

[Jason]

Now he's, now he's, he's. He's Golda My year. Come on. Come on, man. Like that's. Then you're just outraged. Shopping is all you're doing at that point. That's all you're. If somebody's mad about that or trying to read into that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought it was a totally fair answer and one that was not about politics at all. And saying you have a lot of fans there in a very basketball driven country and you want to visit a place like that. I don't think that's. I think a lot of people want to want to visit Israel. It's a very, It's a. Regardless of what you think, it's a very historic landmark.

[Jason]

Yeah, it's lovely there. But why.

[Dan Bernstein]

And the food is great.

[Jason]

I don't presume any political leaning or anything having to do with Israel's policies politically at all. Not one iota.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know.

[Jason]

So that's. People just sifting through everything they can find to find some reason to be outraged at somebody. And it's also would be completely out of character. Why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt and understand he was going out of his way to try to not piss you off and instead you're trying to find a reason why you're supposed to be pissed off. That's. That is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, LeBron is the most hated NBA

[Jason]

player ever for no reason.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he's. He's done. He opened a school in his hometown. He's. He's been loyal to his wife the, his entire career.

[Jason]

He had one ill advised press conference. 1, 1 Ill advised press conference. That's the. That's the closest thing he's ever.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sixteen years ago.

[Jason]

Yes. That's all. That's all. I don't. In. It makes no sense to me. Makes absolutely. I've never really understood it.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's playing with his kid. He's 41 years old and he's still averaging ridiculous numbers.

[Jason]

He had a triple double at 41. And being good. What are you mad at? It makes me crazy. And a lot of this stuff is all roads lead back to Jordan somehow.

[Dan Bernstein]

And here we go with that.

[Jason]

Oh, go ahead. I saw the video.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it was weird.

[Jason]

Jordan's team wins the. The Daytona 500. So Jordan is ecstatic. He's part of the celebration. His guy won.

[Dan Bernstein]

He like.

[Jason]

And the driver's. Yeah, the driver's son was in front of him. I forgot the driver's name. But that guy's son was what, 9 years old? And he's standing in front of him and Jordan was like goosing him or grabbing his ass and then tickling his legs. And that's a. That, that was some kind of a huge deal. You're agreeing with the fact that it was.

[Dan Bernstein]

Look, look really bad. Look really bad. It wasn't like a little like, you know, one of. One of these, you know, to the side the leg or something, or a head pat. It wasn't any of that. It was a good 10 seconds of. I don't want to say diddling, but it wasn't.

[Jason]

It wasn't like fondling. I don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it was.

[Jason]

Yeah, it was a little weird, but I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

And God. Oh, my God, it was so bad. It was just a ridiculous weekend because there was a lot that happened at Mardi Gras. Two with Tulane kids, and someone actually got arrested for fondling. Not a two lane. What?

[Jason]

Fondling a horse?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, a person. Oh, you were more concerned about the horse?

[Jason]

Well, I'm more. Cause that's what they throw you in jail for.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they threw this guy in jail. Anyway, every Tulane student got an update. It was at the boot, at.

[Jason]

Oh, they threw a kid out of the boot and into jail.

[Dan Bernstein]

It wasn't a kid. It was a full grown adult that doesn't go to Tulane.

[Jason]

Oh, so a townie.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I hate that I found this so funny. And we can cut this out if need be, but people were saying, congrats, guys. We got the Fat Tuesday fondler.

[Jason]

They're calling him the Fat Tuesday fondler.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. And there's a kind of Like a college Reddit page. I guess you could call it called Fizz, where people can anonymously post.

[Jason]

Oh, I bet that's a.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a. Oh, it's a clusterfuck. Yeah.

[Jason]

Only imagine.

[Dan Bernstein]

And that's where I saw that for the first time. And whoever posted it was getting mad flack in the comments saying, you guys are diminishing violence significance.

[Jason]

Yeah, and I was the fondler. Fondling men or women or both?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know.

[Jason]

Okay, but it was happening at the Boot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. And I was there at that time. I was.

[Jason]

You have an alibi?

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't get arrested.

[Jason]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying.

[Dan Bernstein]

What do you mean, do I have an alibi?

[Jason]

I'm saying you could have planned this thing and they could have the wrong

[Dan Bernstein]

man

[Jason]

that you could have. You could have set him up and framed him so they. They pull him out of there and you're. And you're able to continue uninterrupted.

[Dan Bernstein]

Dude, you need to stop. I'm.

[Jason]

Look, I'm just trying. This is. I've been. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

[Dan Bernstein]

There was a video of the guy getting arrested and yelling at police officers and it was.

[Jason]

Sure. Because he didn't do it.

[Dan Bernstein]

30 year old or something.

[Jason]

Because he's innocent. Clearly. And this all is part of some.

[Dan Bernstein]

I hope my friends don't listen to this podcast. Otherwise.

[Jason]

Well, you just admitted being there. That. See, I'm.

[Dan Bernstein]

The entire school was there.

[Jason]

Well, that's not ruling yourself out. The only way you can be ruled out is if you weren't there.

[Dan Bernstein]

I did not plan it.

[Jason]

I'm getting to the bottom of this thing. I'm going to figure this out. I think they have the wrong man. I think you're going to have the wrong person doing time in there because I don't trust any of you. Any of you. Goose, is that your. Is that your Mardi Gras hat?

[Dan Bernstein]

Do you like my hat?

[Jason]

It's actually not bad. It's better than what you had on last year. It's better than last year.

[Dan Bernstein]

Caught it. What was last year?

[Jason]

I'll find it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, the Afro wig thing. The giant. It had. That had beads in it.

[Jason]

Yes. Well, I gotta find it because. Yeah, here, this. What is that?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no, that was the Amelia Earhart one.

[Jason]

Yeah, that was last Mardi Gras when you looked like Snoopy ready to take on the Red Baron. And you're sop with Camel.

[Dan Bernstein]

What happened? Mardi Gras is a time for dressing up like complete idiots. And apparently. Well, yeah. After the show.

[Jason]

And the best part is the shirt. Is that your Johan Moncada?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Well, it is. Yes. I wore that shirt too.

[Jason]

That's. You Will wore another Johan Moncada City Connect jersey.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a great jersey. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[Jason]

And it says yo yo on the back. Yeah, it's awesome. Correctly. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right.

[Jason]

Awesome.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just making sure.

[Jason]

So. So we. We got Durant, LeBron, M.J. jordan and the Fat Tuesday Fondler, who's not any of those people. But I'm. I've got. I've got some what if it is. I'm going to get the what if

[Dan Bernstein]

Jordan planned that one too. I will.

[Jason]

Hold on a second. Now, there is somebody who's been mentioned on this show already who has been seen at that bar before.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yes.

[Jason]

Wasn't a member of the Bulls at the time.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, there's a. Have you seen the video of Giddy? He was. He was walking back from the boot with the girl and this random Tulane student films. You just see his finger point and go, oh my God, it's Josh Giddy. Is she of age? It was right after all that stuff.

[Jason]

Well, but if he's in town with Oklahoma City and going to a two lane bar like the campus at the

[Dan Bernstein]

time, that was what, two years ago?

[Jason]

So he was.

[Dan Bernstein]

How old, how old is he now?

[Jason]

Yeah, he's 23 now. Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

He's 23. So he was 21. He was my age.

[Jason]

That makes sense. He was your age.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on.

[Jason]

I mean, you can't just. I just remembered that at that particular bar there was a infamous Josh Giddy sighting when he was playing for Oklahoma City.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

All right, so that is good for our.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, this has been a slash.

[Jason]

We're getting everybody in trouble on this one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Trying to get me in trouble for something that I. I didn't even hear about until yesterday. Sure.

[Jason]

See, listen all. I'm not buying any of this. I'm. Yeah, I didn't hear about it. I was there, but I didn't hear any about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

The other guy. Wish I could throw a shank right now. You need to shut up.

[Jason]

You need to shut up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Shut up.

[Jason]

All right, Time for the show do. All right, here's your question.

[Dan Bernstein]

I can't take anything seriously right now. Why? Because this weekend in general is just so messed up.

[Jason]

Yeah, I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

You got. Now you're just learning about everything and you're having the time of your life.

[Jason]

Yeah. Do you have class tomorrow? Yeah. Did you have class today?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I mean, I only had one, so.

[Jason]

Oh, okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right.

[Jason]

So Khan Knipple through 53 games.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's my answer.

[Jason]

He became the first rookie this year to reach 1,000 points.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason]

That makes him. Since 2020. Okay, the fourth fastest player to reach 1,000 career points. Who are the three players since 2020 who reached 1,000 career points? Three games.

[Dan Bernstein]

They had to be drafted 20, 20 or later drafted.

[Jason]

So these 23 or later. Yeah, these are all rookies. These are all rookies who.

[Dan Bernstein]

Anthony Edwards.

[Jason]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Lamello. Because he had a really good rookie year.

[Jason]

Nope.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I'm just going to keep going with that draft. I'm going to say Tyrese Halliburton.

[Jason]

Nope.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so 53 games.

[Jason]

So I'll just give you the numbers of games. 44, 49 and 51.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. 44. Wow.

[Jason]

These three players.

[Dan Bernstein]

Cade.

[Jason]

Nope.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm trying to think of just each draft. Wemby. What am I doing?

[Jason]

Wemby did it in 49 games.

[Dan Bernstein]

Does Chet count? Because he was hurt that first year, but he's probably not on there.

[Jason]

No, he's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

Paolo.

[Jason]

He's third. Paolo Bancaro. 51 games. Only two more than Wembanyama. Good guess.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, yeah. So I just need the. The first one now.

[Jason]

Yep, you need the. The one since 2020.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not going to be Stefan Castle, is it? Because he had a good rookie year, but not Stefan Castle. Ooh, this is. This is tough. Watch it be like I do sumu or something. It's not going to be IO. But I mean, I just don't. And it. So it had to be in the rookie year.

[Jason]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did this guy win rookie of the year?

[Jason]

He might have. I'll check.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm thinking 20. Who was the. Who's in the 2021 NBA draft? Other than. That's the.

[Jason]

This guy. This guy was NBA. All rookie, first team, but not rookie of the year.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Is he still really good? Yeah.

[Jason]

There's a caveat there. But yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Caveat.

[Jason]

I'll. I will explain.

[Dan Bernstein]

Was he a draft pick?

[Jason]

He. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. I'm just making sure it wasn't some undrafted European Something. And no, he was.

[Jason]

He was very much a draft. But remember, he was. He was drafted. This is from when it happened. It happened in 2020.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, it was in 2020.

[Jason]

He was part. He was in the 2019 draft.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh. Oh, Zion gotta be, right? Yes.

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[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

I just. It's something. Wasn't hooking up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Because I was thinking 2020 draft. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right.

[Jason]

It was. It was ZION. And in 2021, he became the fourth youngest NBA player to be selected to an All Star.

[Dan Bernstein]

Interesting.

[Jason]

But he did make NBA all rookie, first team in 2020. But it's Zion, Wemby, and Boncaro and then Knipple.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a lot of Duke guys.

[Jason]

Yes, it is.

[Dan Bernstein]

So my question also has to do with a thousand point seasons. Okay. And since the year 2000, there have been 12 players, or, sorry, 11 players to have at least 1,000 points in a season for 12 straight seasons.

[Jason]

You got me a thousand points. Okay. For 12.

[Dan Bernstein]

12 straight. And there are 11 players since 2000. So you got to think of guys that don't get injured because if you're hurt, you're then one. It has to be consecutive.

[Jason]

And not necessarily stars.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I mean, they're all good players.

[Jason]

If not stars since 2000.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Let's go with Carmelo.

[Dan Bernstein]

Carmelo did it 11 times because I think one year with the Knicks, he got hurt. So not 12. Good guess, though. Ooh. Try to get some easy names out of the way.

[Jason]

I mean, how about. How about LeBron?

[Dan Bernstein]

LeBron's number one. Doing it 22 straight seasons.

[Jason]

Yes. Durant.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. Hasn't even done it 10 straight times because that Achilles injury.

[Jason]

Oh, that's right. Steph.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. No, no.

[Jason]

Clay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. He was hurt for too long, too. Like, you really got to think of guys that just played in a lot of games.

[Jason]

But that doesn't. What this is. This is harder than I thought.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So I only. I only have LeBron.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason]

What about, like, Chris Paul?

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. Didn't score. And like, I. He wasn't on this list.

[Jason]

How is he not since 2000. Did.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did Tim Duncan do it 11 times?

[Jason]

God, I'm getting killed over here.

[Dan Bernstein]

You've got how many. You've got multiple. You got 1, 2, 3 more MV, 4 more MVP hard on this list. Harden. Harden has done it 15 straight years.

[Jason]

Braun.

[Dan Bernstein]

How about Jokic hasn't played long enough, but he's done it 10 straight times. He hasn't played 12 years. I think this is his 11th season in the league.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because you got to still think like 2000. Not just. Not just 2010.

[Jason]

I know, I know. It's not that easy.

[Dan Bernstein]

So now you got Harden so that now you still have one Westbrook. That's another one of the MVPs. Another 15 straight times.

[Jason]

Okay. Harden, LeBron and Westbrook.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because he. Russell Westbrook just doesn't really get hurt. Right. And so.

[Jason]

And he's. And he recovers ridiculously quickly.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason]

This is. This is going to be harder than I thought.

[Dan Bernstein]

One of. One of these guys we talked about earlier on this podcast who's done it 16 straight times, including this season.

[Jason]

16 straight times, including this season. And we talked about him earlier. I mentioned. I said KD. And you said. No, we talked about LeBron earlier in the episode. Earlier, in the end, we were talking about the tanking and we were talking about how well you have to play and talking about. Oh, guys that were on rookie deals. Shea.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he hasn't been around long enough.

[Jason]

Yeah, he's been the league long enough.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Jason]

What a guy. We mentioned.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. Talked probably for a good couple of minutes about, actually. Demar. Yes. Demar DeRozan has done it for 16 straight seasons, second longest ever since.

[Jason]

He doesn't get hurt. He doesn't get hurt. No. And Embiid is way too hurt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Right.

[Jason]

So that's not even close.

[Dan Bernstein]

You got. Let me think of how many you got left. You got one gimme. You need. I would say two to three of these are gimmes. I think it's 11 straight times for Giannis.

[Jason]

Giannis, because.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, 11 straight times because.

[Jason]

So I've got three.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, you got four of them.

[Jason]

So you're. So I got elevens. This is. I got four. Evans. Yeah, because you're. The minimum is 12. Like, something like. Trey Young hasn't done it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not in the league long enough.

[Jason]

Because he hasn't been around long enough. No, I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Every single one of these players now is retired. Every single. Every single one of these guys is now retired. Oh, great. And he's still got two more MVPs.

[Jason]

This is going to be too hard for me. Not. That's who he was, an mvp. And Smash. I think this is. Be too difficult for me to go through everything.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nothing.

[Jason]

I don't know. I don't. I don't. I'm not sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do you want me to go if. No.

[Jason]

Oh, I don't think so.

[Dan Bernstein]

So you still want to keep working on this?

[Jason]

Okay. No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no. Hello?

[Jason]

I don't know. Go ahead.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, okay. You were cutting out for a good two minutes there, by the way, so just letting you know, I was. Oh, they're on my end. Maybe.

[Jason]

I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why?

[Jason]

It's a hard line plugged in, so you sound fine.

[Dan Bernstein]

Now, Paul Pierce did it 14 straight times. Okay.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

LaMarcus Aldridge did it 13 straight times.

[Jason]

LaMarcus Aldridge. Jesus.

[Dan Bernstein]

Great player, this one. You should have gotten. Kobe Bryant did it 13 straight times. You should have gotten Kobe. Come on. Okay, right, okay. Dwyane Wade did it 13 straight times. Dirk Nowitzki did it 12 straight times. Joe Johnson did it 12 straight times.

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[Dan Bernstein]

Uh huh. Yeah. He was a scorer and ready for this name. Anton Jameson did it 12 straight times. Wow. He was a bucket man.

[Jason]

Yeah, I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

I looked at his numbers after I saw this.

[Jason]

I would not have gotten.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was a great player. His. No, I would. I want to look at his comps. Whoa. We are way too similar.

[Jason]

Yeah, I'm just. That, that would be really. I, I bet, I bet that would be a fascinating list.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean he was a two time All Star. All Star, sixth man all rookie. Averaged 19 points for his career. He had a 24.9 point season at one point. You know, let me, let me, let me.

[Jason]

And he's an easy guy to look up because nobody else spells it the way he spells it. All right, I got it.

[Dan Bernstein]

You got two of those guys because you Wade on there as well. Did I, did I mention.

[Jason]

Yes, you did. Anton and Dwight. Oh, yeah. This is, this is fantastic.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hold on. I'm not, I can't.

[Jason]

Antoine Jameson's top comp.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, similarity scores. Here we go.

[Jason]

I got it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I see it now. Wow. Yeah, look.

[Jason]

Yeah, I'm looking at. Yeah, his, his comps are. David West.

[Dan Bernstein]

Look at that.

[Jason]

Terry Cummings, Cliff Robinson, P.J. brown, A.C. green, Richard Lewis, Paul Millsap, Andre Iguodala, Carmelo and Shane Battier.

[Dan Bernstein]

Those are, that's.

[Jason]

That'll make your head spin.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good. All of us guys are good players.

[Jason]

There's so many different kinds of players

[Dan Bernstein]

in there too because I mean you got. Yeah, they are mellow.

[Jason]

Good for different first battle reasons though. That's, that's a wild list. And then he's like, I, I see. I would. David west and Paul Millsap are like the same dude.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, Paul Mills. That was a better shoot.

[Jason]

All right, cool stuff. Yeah, but, but I always think of them very similarly. That is, that just could be on me. All right, cool stuff. Very good. That'll do it then. For this episode of Organizations win Championships. We're going to get back. We're going to. As we said at the outset, bad Bulls basketball is coming back to redeem us. We will have, I think Adam and Stacy just kind of cutting up for the remainder of the year because there's going to be some blowouts in here. There's going to be some weird games and we will do our best to scout these guys as best we can, especially as soon as Giddy comes back. And then we'll draw all sorts of wrong conclusions from what we see. And that has been OWC number 132. Like and subscribe and rate and we'll get you next time Organizations win championships. A Chicago Bulls podcast with Jason and

[Dan Bernstein]

dan Bernstein on 312Sports.

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